It is okay to connect the G1 simultaneously to a USB4 port and Oculink Port, the GI will automatically use the 63G OCULINK connection exclusively for the eGPU and the 40G USB4 port for USB-PD and the Hub I/O. That is one area I applaud the GPD team, until we get USB4 V2 or Thunderbolt Next, being able to use both an Oculink port and USB4 port simultaneously is golden.
After I saw the Asus Flow line with the external 3080 I started wondering why this is not thing. Glad someone it’s finally tackling this niche,perfect for all of us ultrabook enthusiasts
Another cool thing about plugging in both USB and Oculink is that the Oculink port is going to be left 100% to the GPU and the USB will handle the IO. Don't know about the video coming back to the internal screen tho.
So glad I got in on the indiegogo 😩 and thank god creators got their hands on it to just confirm my excitement, and thanks for the setup walkthrough! Definitely answered some questions!
I also like the idea but at the same time kind of don't see why anyone would do it.... It makes sense to me for handhelds since you can just unplug that and take it with you but why would you need a desktop to be in 2 parts? You might as well just buy a small full PC or a laptop at that point it seems like.
The one thing that annoys me with handheld + egpu setups like this is having to change the graphics settings all the time. I wish there was a tool that can scan your game library and store graphics settings for handheld and egpu mode for each game, and then switch seamlessly. If there is a tool like that, someone please let me know
@@LuminousSpace you know there are two m.2 slots right? Not every game is that simple to setup. I ran two when i had mine. Sold it as i built a much better matx desktop running nobara os.
I'm so so excited that external GPUs are finally happening, like a in a real, usable way. I remember getting a laptop years ago because I dreamed of playing games on the go, and then of course when it ended up not cutting it, I looked into an egpu. Which was real rough at the time, if you even had one of a limited number of laptops that could even do it. Back then, you were looking at doing it yourself in a big way - part sourcing, wiring, sometimes even making your own registry hacks to get things to work. There weren't really any consumer options, and basically no universal solution. Now, we're finally at a point where we can just sit down with your laptop, plug in a USB cable, and boom, you've got external GPU power. That isn't hindered by the cable, doesn't have a million weird caveats and quirks in how it works. Just awesome.
could've used something like this back when macs had egpu support! this definitely makes any handheld with usb4 a lot more interesting, and even makes some of the non-ryzen mini pcs viable
It opens the door for a thin and light ultra book too; haul this around when you need extra horsepower. its the size of a power brick from gaming laptops just a few years ago.
I think this tiny eGPU beebox should be the best partner of almost all mini pc that currently available! Beside, perhaps AMD already been abandoned the concept for couple of years. But, I would like to know that, whether the iGPU of the Ryzen 7000 series being enabled to hybrid crossfire with this dGPU model? 🤔
Unlike those old, externalized graphics card boxes that seemed a little hoaky many years back and had significant parasitic draws on the framerates, this new approach seems very promising
Super cool small device but $655 if you back it now or $795 retail is insane and I can't imagine there exists a robust market. You can put together an entire desktop for that price, or put that towards a gaming laptop with dedicated graphics if you travel... I just don't get it.
Slight nitpicking from me, but I wish the OCuLink on G1 runs at x8 instead of x4, that way we can tunnel back the graphics from G1 to the internal display without sacrificing that much performance compared to Thunderbolt / USB4 back-tunneling.
The success of the G1 is going to depend largely on the price, the Winmax 2 7840u is already well over 1000 dollars, and I'm guessing the 7600m egpu is going to be about another 1000 dollars, at which point you can get a decent gaming laptop and still have change several hundred dollars 🤔
That's definitely an odd thing with pricing these higher end compact computers. Yes they are alot more expensive, and you can definitely find the same specs for half the price, but these things are a fraction of the size of their "cheaper" counterparts.
its not a great deal for one, but if you and your girlfriend (or kids) both have your own laptops, or whatever mix of laptops, mini PCs and handhelds, suddenly it makes a lot of sense
and the carry weight to the airplane is the 5-7kg only, if your empty bag weights 1-2kg EMPTY. go with that old laptop + his charger already taken that weight. and taking ALL free volume. while this devices weight fraction. and if the Graphic unit for some reason malfunction, you can still use your main PC. while in one piece laptop if something is malfunction - the total unit become useless and not functioning
They NEED to start designing these eGPUs for portable PCs as actual DOCKS (like the switch). Would look so aesthetically clean, I wouldn't it replacing my PC gaming setup completely.
This is what I’ve been waiting on, this would be perfect with all these windows handheld excluding the Ally. I hope the price is way better than the Asus EGPU which should force them to lower their price
I think this is an amazing product and I think it would really be a game changer around a lot of the low-end gaming rigs. For example the single board computer. I would love to see how that is able to bring up numbers on gaming. Some of the super small like the GMK if it has the right IO to be able to use a product like this. If nothing from your channel, I've learned that there are also all sorts of different places where games bottleneck and I think it would be interesting to see a lot of the bottlenecks in those lower end gaming machines with the device like this. You can't perform miracles but you can really come close. Love the channel
Iv been thinking about getting a GDP and use it as a small office slash gaming handheld. This probably just closed that deal. But would love too see how it works on the ROG Ally as I'll probably still keep that and use it just for gaming.
I am also excited for the Adlink A500. You can literally fit that thing in your pocket and it has RTX 3050 mobile performance but it is not out yet. These need to go mainstream asap.
Volume wise it looks similar to the sonnet RX 5700 they used on our Mac instructor consoles so we could get video out to the projector and second monitor(didnt properly clone if capturing from the Mac's built in port) This is much shorter, but also much wider/longer, which is what i want for personal use.
I would like to see how well this device works on laptops that doesn't have thunderbolt or usb 4. That m.2 adapter might be able to work but i want to see it in action
Thank you so much for making this video. If anything, the comparison has solidified my purchasing decision for my next eGPU-enabled device. I'm gonna modify my Aorus Gaming Box 2070 into an oculink version and buy an Oculink-enabled laptop/handheld next. Really hoping Framework comes up with an Oculink module, cause that laptop's looking mighty attractive to me.
An oculink module on a framework is going to be useless if not impossible. I don't know if the newer versions with USB 4 support Thunderbolt but even if they do you'd still have to go from pcie to USB 4 and then back to pcie removing any advantage oculink would have brought and losing Thunderbolt's own advantages. If they don't rework the chassis adding an oculink port at the back the only ways I see are an oculink module for the Framework 16 (using its pcie module slot) or cutting a hole in the bottom of the laptop and plug in a 90° m.2 to Oculink adapter.
@@maverickvgc4220 i think all your assumptions are spot on. Hoping to see if Framework might adopt/embrace a PCIe interface for one of its module *fingers crossed*
I'd love GPD to make a full size(16") slim/lightweight laptop with oculink port. That's exactly what I'm currently looking for (ROG Flow is too expensive IMO)
I usually build my gamings PCs, but I gotta say, with this going on, I very well might go with solutions like this in the future. If I could someday get a laptop and a desktop, and just share one GPU between them by swapping it out? That would be pretty sick. And if it makes its way to some good handhelds? Yes please.
I so wish the Steam Deck had support for egpus, I think egpu support on the chipset/dock is a must-have for the steam deck 2. I would replace my PC with a steam deck 2 + egpu combo.
Wowzers, now if AMD could release that 7800 or 7800 XT thats been doing the rounds in leaks, a mobile verson of that or even a 6850M XT would be really great.
Very interesting form factor. Quite convenient, with its drawbacks. Perhaps a Ethernet port would have been a good idea. I wonder how well it will perform in the linux environment
This is what "modular PC" actually look like. This what will help our old devices to last longer without buying a whole new PC. hopefully. Reminds me of CES2014. Project Christine.
Might be a dumb question but can this be daisy chained to another TB 4 Dock? Can you maybe test this? Like this: Gpd Dock --> TB4 Dock --> Thunderbolt Notebook?
Not the most seamless hybrid solution, but man am I glad to see these things getting made! If Nintendo is foolish enough not to make the next gen console both a hybrid and backwards compatible (no excuse not to; even if it is "hard to achieve" which they have stated it isn't); then we will have more than enough competent options out there with these devices and some deep sale steam games!
This would work great for how my kids use all my GPD, OneXplayer and SteamDeck devices with our family room TV. I'm an old school PC/Xbox gamer (we dont have an xbox currently) and I really like how there are various ways to introduce PC gaming to my young kids without letting them get their paws on my 3090 Desktop 😅
For PCs with no NVMe slot (particularly the small form factor ones) or no USB 4.0 port, hopefully someone can sell a PCIe to the Oculink expansion slot to tap that eGPU power.
Did anyone else catch the marketing for this thing with FSR 3 support and the supposed 2x improvement over fsr 2.0? That's the first I've heard of that performance comparison!
All looks good as someone who play lot less i would get this as desktop replacement no need for huge enclosure with PSU (my PC is already SFF) connected to laptop when in home but i wish they could make that all connectors are in the back coz device itself looks good enough to set it up on desk but with these cables sticking in front its meh but that is my only con from what i see great stuff overall 👌
I'm more excited about USB4 gen 2 80gbps then ocilink at this point. Gotta figure that's gonna be the real step forward for a single cable solution for power and egpu and thin and light.
But we have to wait for the next generation of of CPUs to support the USB 4v2 and Thunderbolt 5 and even then manufacturers have to make new enclosures for GPUs to support the new protocol so it’s gonna be a while before it happens. At least GPD is providing a stopgap
@@nathanl2966 Been announced, my guess end of this year early next year. I don't see the point of investing in something that will be not the standard in the next calendrer year.
@@DoubleDragon5180 Uses the same protocol as USB4 just higher data transmission. Think USB3.1 to 3.2 no change in protocol just higher transmission rate. You are right about enclosures though, but I think that will come very quickly as well or might even be backwards compatible, we shall see.
Why is the Oculink better than 4.0 usb and does every pc brand has this oculink option or only this Winmax 2? Is there a date when we can actually buy this small GPU? How did you connect the GPD G1 with the monitor?(it looks like as it does not have a hdmi 2.1 slot)
Excellent content, I wish they had something like this more available so having a light laptop was much more reasonable thing so can game at home but just use it for work. Your content is always incredible "but" you pleeeease have to run your scripts through a search/replace for the word "but"cuz the amount of times you say "but" gave me semantic satiation
at 4:15 im a bit confused, GPD themselves had mentioned that the device will automatically prioritize the oculink connection by default, and if you use the USB4 on top of oculink it will only pickup as a dock for peripherals...is that not the case anymore?!
Please test some e-sports titles with low settings so as to see how it handles high refresh gaming. It could be a great little setup when attending a LAN. Cheers!
WHOOO HOOOO! I know a bit over the top. Back in the 90s I argued with engineers about this possibility of an external GPU. Foresaw the lowering of Memory. Thought if External GPU was paired with Monitor, then students and workers would be able to take a very small dumb PC box with solid state memory to hold personal config. You would log into remote server located at school or business from anywhere for doing work or learning. For games you would have boxes by companies all of which connected to external GPU lowering cost of gaming units.
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This is the spiritual successor to the Thinkpad GPU dock.
yea, I remember wanting that back when it launched...passed when I saw that it required a power brick almost the same size as the dock itself. GPD G1's power supply being built in is a major plus
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@@FS-zt6tm yeah. At least it used the standard lenovo square connector for power.
I have a 300A desk mini pc with a 2400G for a gaming PC in the living room. A decent video might be trying some older generation mini PCs to see the difference it might provide.
Nice review! While occulink is interesting, it will certainly go away at some point with the popularity of thunderbolt and the higher bandwidth thunderbolt 5 right around the corner. However, I want this little egpu!
@@brianclarke8503 how can tb5 beat pure pci express access. oculink uses straight pci express connection.. Only way it could beat it is to some how access all pci express x16 slot instead of the partial x4 etc that the oculink uses. if it could do that, then External gpus would be the way to go 100%.
I don't know if it's me, but that connector looks strangely similar to the one that you put in your Asus products (for example the Asus ROG Ally). Do you know if they are maybe compatible with this OCuLink connector?
This is probably the most exciting time in gaming handheld history and its exactly what I needed right now
All thanks to the steam deck
Not. Gpd were doing this way before steam deck
It's really all thanks to AMD, but definitely big thanks to Valve as well
@@VaderVlogs125 🤣
@@VaderVlogs125 Tribalism is dumb.
It is okay to connect the G1 simultaneously to a USB4 port and Oculink Port, the GI will automatically use the 63G OCULINK connection exclusively for the eGPU and the 40G USB4 port for USB-PD and the Hub I/O.
That is one area I applaud the GPD team, until we get USB4 V2 or Thunderbolt Next, being able to use both an Oculink port and USB4 port simultaneously is golden.
Finally, a true dock that you can carry with you for some extra horsepower
After I saw the Asus Flow line with the external 3080 I started wondering why this is not thing. Glad someone it’s finally tackling this niche,perfect for all of us ultrabook enthusiasts
Another cool thing about plugging in both USB and Oculink is that the Oculink port is going to be left 100% to the GPU and the USB will handle the IO. Don't know about the video coming back to the internal screen tho.
Does this also work with the usb-C-3.2 Slot, as seen in the video?
@@Ganon1337I am not an expert, but that seems highly unlikely.
So glad I got in on the indiegogo 😩 and thank god creators got their hands on it to just confirm my excitement, and thanks for the setup walkthrough! Definitely answered some questions!
Did you receive your unit already? And any issues with it so far?
It would be interesting to see a dock style eGPU expansion for those handhelds.
GP Win4 has it. And I think all new GPD devices will come with it
@@ohyash I only saw a regular dock on their website, not one that includes a GPU inside.
@@atretador2452 Oh, totally misunderstood your question. Yeah its not. I was saying all the GPD devices seemingly will come with Oculink port.
@@ohyash You gave me hope xD
This Dock is what I was wishing for a long time. It will pair nicely with Thin & Light laptops too.
Graet idea and would love to see it developed in mind for mini pcs. Some of them have really good cpus just let down a tiny bit by the their iGPUs.
I also like the idea but at the same time kind of don't see why anyone would do it.... It makes sense to me for handhelds since you can just unplug that and take it with you but why would you need a desktop to be in 2 parts? You might as well just buy a small full PC or a laptop at that point it seems like.
This is awesome. Would love to see more testing done with the mini pc especially with the m2 oculink adapter!
Finally a device with 7600M XT . Been waiting for this GPUs to hit the laptops
The one thing that annoys me with handheld + egpu setups like this is having to change the graphics settings all the time. I wish there was a tool that can scan your game library and store graphics settings for handheld and egpu mode for each game, and then switch seamlessly. If there is a tool like that, someone please let me know
dual boot.
lol this basically asking for double the disk space and reboot which is wasting more time and space that changing settings@@DjVendetta
@@LuminousSpace you know there are two m.2 slots right? Not every game is that simple to setup. I ran two when i had mine. Sold it as i built a much better matx desktop running nobara os.
On the official GPD TH-cam channel, they have the GPD G1 priced at $655 for the Crowd finding crew and $795 for the retail price
wow, that price is too high for my blood unfortunately.... i think between $500 and $600 should have been the limit
@@brianclarke8503 I agree especially with the RX 6850m XT XG Mobile from ASUS is $799 on their website and it performs better than the RX 7600m XT
I'm so so excited that external GPUs are finally happening, like a in a real, usable way. I remember getting a laptop years ago because I dreamed of playing games on the go, and then of course when it ended up not cutting it, I looked into an egpu. Which was real rough at the time, if you even had one of a limited number of laptops that could even do it. Back then, you were looking at doing it yourself in a big way - part sourcing, wiring, sometimes even making your own registry hacks to get things to work. There weren't really any consumer options, and basically no universal solution.
Now, we're finally at a point where we can just sit down with your laptop, plug in a USB cable, and boom, you've got external GPU power. That isn't hindered by the cable, doesn't have a million weird caveats and quirks in how it works. Just awesome.
This vs Asus' proprietary dock would be interesting. As well as steam deck performance.
I really hope the steam deck 2 is eGPU compatible in some way, an occulink connection would be amazing to have on it.
love the gunmetal look, gpd domination!
That M.2 Oculink is pretty interesting!
9:05 I needed that gorgeous piece for my Asus VivoBook to unleash its power.
could've used something like this back when macs had egpu support! this definitely makes any handheld with usb4 a lot more interesting, and even makes some of the non-ryzen mini pcs viable
It opens the door for a thin and light ultra book too; haul this around when you need extra horsepower. its the size of a power brick from gaming laptops just a few years ago.
I think this tiny eGPU beebox should be the best partner of almost all mini pc that currently available! Beside, perhaps AMD already been abandoned the concept for couple of years. But, I would like to know that, whether the iGPU of the Ryzen 7000 series being enabled to hybrid crossfire with this dGPU model? 🤔
ETA Prime has a review of the GPD G1 which is a Radeon RX 7600M XT eGPU running across either Oculink or USB 4.
Now we need more variants like 4060 or even regular rx7600
I agree!
Unlike those old, externalized graphics card boxes that seemed a little hoaky many years back and had significant parasitic draws on the framerates, this new approach seems very promising
Super cool small device but $655 if you back it now or $795 retail is insane and I can't imagine there exists a robust market. You can put together an entire desktop for that price, or put that towards a gaming laptop with dedicated graphics if you travel... I just don't get it.
Slight nitpicking from me, but I wish the OCuLink on G1 runs at x8 instead of x4, that way we can tunnel back the graphics from G1 to the internal display without sacrificing that much performance compared to Thunderbolt / USB4 back-tunneling.
The success of the G1 is going to depend largely on the price, the Winmax 2 7840u is already well over 1000 dollars, and I'm guessing the 7600m egpu is going to be about another 1000 dollars, at which point you can get a decent gaming laptop and still have change several hundred dollars 🤔
That's definitely an odd thing with pricing these higher end compact computers. Yes they are alot more expensive, and you can definitely find the same specs for half the price, but these things are a fraction of the size of their "cheaper" counterparts.
its not a great deal for one, but if you and your girlfriend (or kids) both have your own laptops, or whatever mix of laptops, mini PCs and handhelds, suddenly it makes a lot of sense
$655 for G1
and the carry weight to the airplane is the 5-7kg only, if your empty bag weights 1-2kg EMPTY. go with that old laptop + his charger already taken that weight. and taking ALL free volume. while this devices weight fraction. and if the Graphic unit for some reason malfunction, you can still use your main PC. while in one piece laptop if something is malfunction - the total unit become useless and not functioning
My dream is to have something like this working on a Linux-running MacBook Pro playing Windows games under Proton/Wine.
Minisforum if you are watching add a oculink port to your PCs 🤞
Would love to see performance at 4k. I know it's a laptop gpu, but it'd be nice to see just how much occulink can put out.
I think GTA V 4K wouldn't be a problem. You might have to drop down to medium mixed for newer AAA titles
They NEED to start designing these eGPUs for portable PCs as actual DOCKS (like the switch). Would look so aesthetically clean, I wouldn't it replacing my PC gaming setup completely.
absolutely exciting product, it's rare to see actual innovation on a top quality product!!
Looks like a cool way to upgrade video performance for almost any modern portable PC 👍
any chance you could show the benchmark at 1440P, because I think the PCI X4.0 might not affect that much if it's 1440P?
This is what I’ve been waiting on, this would be perfect with all these windows handheld excluding the Ally. I hope the price is way better than the Asus EGPU which should force them to lower their price
The price is way better than the xgmobile from asus. Theirs is 1200$ to 2000$ depending on what you get. This is 655$ now and 800$ in retail
Would love to see how this pairs with a Framework Laptop
I think this is an amazing product and I think it would really be a game changer around a lot of the low-end gaming rigs.
For example the single board computer. I would love to see how that is able to bring up numbers on gaming. Some of the super small like the GMK if it has the right IO to be able to use a product like this.
If nothing from your channel, I've learned that there are also all sorts of different places where games bottleneck and I think it would be interesting to see a lot of the bottlenecks in those lower end gaming machines with the device like this. You can't perform miracles but you can really come close. Love the channel
Am I the only person that noticed that at 8:33 the GPD WinMax2 and the mini pc have completely different driver versions?
Iv been thinking about getting a GDP and use it as a small office slash gaming handheld.
This probably just closed that deal.
But would love too see how it works on the ROG Ally as I'll probably still keep that and use it just for gaming.
I am also excited for the Adlink A500. You can literally fit that thing in your pocket and it has RTX 3050 mobile performance but it is not out yet. These need to go mainstream asap.
Why no 1440p testing?
Volume wise it looks similar to the sonnet RX 5700 they used on our Mac instructor consoles so we could get video out to the projector and second monitor(didnt properly clone if capturing from the Mac's built in port)
This is much shorter, but also much wider/longer, which is what i want for personal use.
I would like to see how well this device works on laptops that doesn't have thunderbolt or usb 4. That m.2 adapter might be able to work but i want to see it in action
I would too
Thank you so much for making this video. If anything, the comparison has solidified my purchasing decision for my next eGPU-enabled device. I'm gonna modify my Aorus Gaming Box 2070 into an oculink version and buy an Oculink-enabled laptop/handheld next. Really hoping Framework comes up with an Oculink module, cause that laptop's looking mighty attractive to me.
Isn't most of Frameworks modularity based around USB c? I highly doubt they will have a oculink port, which is pure PCIe.
An oculink module on a framework is going to be useless if not impossible. I don't know if the newer versions with USB 4 support Thunderbolt but even if they do you'd still have to go from pcie to USB 4 and then back to pcie removing any advantage oculink would have brought and losing Thunderbolt's own advantages. If they don't rework the chassis adding an oculink port at the back the only ways I see are an oculink module for the Framework 16 (using its pcie module slot) or cutting a hole in the bottom of the laptop and plug in a 90° m.2 to Oculink adapter.
@@maverickvgc4220 i think all your assumptions are spot on. Hoping to see if Framework might adopt/embrace a PCIe interface for one of its module *fingers crossed*
Creo que las nuevas consolas-PC debería tener un puerto Oculink para sacarles más provecho con una eGPU.
I'd love GPD to make a full size(16") slim/lightweight laptop with oculink port. That's exactly what I'm currently looking for (ROG Flow is too expensive IMO)
tbh I would love if they do a slightly thicker 13in laptop with good cooling and HS cpu, that would also be amazing
I usually build my gamings PCs, but I gotta say, with this going on, I very well might go with solutions like this in the future. If I could someday get a laptop and a desktop, and just share one GPU between them by swapping it out? That would be pretty sick. And if it makes its way to some good handhelds? Yes please.
once u get this u will never use desktop, ur handheld is ur desktop...... that is what i ended up, desktop is collecting dust
The Steam Deck dock should be something like this.
I like this new way to connect the gpu over oculink please make more videos about it and the available adapters from m.2 to oculink
I so wish the Steam Deck had support for egpus, I think egpu support on the chipset/dock is a must-have for the steam deck 2. I would replace my PC with a steam deck 2 + egpu combo.
Wowzers, now if AMD could release that 7800 or 7800 XT thats been doing the rounds in leaks, a mobile verson of that or even a 6850M XT would be really great.
I like these compact external GPU solutions.
Just pre-ordered one of these. Going to pair it with the Minisforun EM680. All just too cute! Lol!
Where did you pre-order if tehre is no kickstarter yet?
Very interesting form factor. Quite convenient, with its drawbacks. Perhaps a Ethernet port would have been a good idea. I wonder how well it will perform in the linux environment
This is what "modular PC" actually look like. This what will help our old devices to last longer without buying a whole new PC. hopefully. Reminds me of CES2014. Project Christine.
If they come out with a version with an Intel Arc A770M I'm buying it in a heartbeat
Awesome! Let's see them produce versions with beefier GPUs.
That was what I had hoped the Steam Deck Dock would have been.
its funny that the part that will make decks age the most quickly is the usb 3.2 port
Might be a dumb question but can this be daisy chained to another TB 4 Dock?
Can you maybe test this?
Like this:
Gpd Dock --> TB4 Dock --> Thunderbolt Notebook?
Not the most seamless hybrid solution, but man am I glad to see these things getting made! If Nintendo is foolish enough not to make the next gen console both a hybrid and backwards compatible (no excuse not to; even if it is "hard to achieve" which they have stated it isn't); then we will have more than enough competent options out there with these devices and some deep sale steam games!
I would love for the next switch dock to be an extension gpu, but you know that's not Nintendo's MO... That'll be too fancy, tech wise...
@@GordonGordon it would also just be annoying for a console. Like have you thought about it for more than one second?
@@iNSANELYSMART409 Nope. Just 2. Obviously wasn't enough.
Thx for the license code website - VERY HELPFUL!!
This is a game changer.
Their eGPU looks like better product than the console itself, a small form factor with internal psu that WOULD sell great alone.
Great Eta Optimus Prime !
now i need an oculink enclosure
This would work great for how my kids use all my GPD, OneXplayer and SteamDeck devices with our family room TV. I'm an old school PC/Xbox gamer (we dont have an xbox currently) and I really like how there are various ways to introduce PC gaming to my young kids without letting them get their paws on my 3090 Desktop 😅
Finally, the first eGPU solution that is not Asus proprietary, and it has almost the same bandwidth!
For PCs with no NVMe slot (particularly the small form factor ones) or no USB 4.0 port, hopefully someone can sell a PCIe to the Oculink expansion slot to tap that eGPU power.
Computers in the next 10 years are going to be wild!
Minisforum should make a mini-pc with Oculink port built-in! 😗
Did anyone else catch the marketing for this thing with FSR 3 support and the supposed 2x improvement over fsr 2.0? That's the first I've heard of that performance comparison!
It is crazy to buy this. Gaming laptop 8 Gb graphic card is about 1000 USD. I think this EGPU value should be under 200 USD.
All looks good as someone who play lot less i would get this as desktop replacement no need for huge enclosure with PSU (my PC is already SFF) connected to laptop when in home but i wish they could make that all connectors are in the back coz device itself looks good enough to set it up on desk but with these cables sticking in front its meh but that is my only con from what i see great stuff overall 👌
7:33 ayo u have Project Cars 2 that's game feels so fast
Now I can render with no delay on my steam deck.
I'm more excited about USB4 gen 2 80gbps then ocilink at this point. Gotta figure that's gonna be the real step forward for a single cable solution for power and egpu and thin and light.
Has this been announced? Last I checked 80Gbps TB was just a nice dream.
But we have to wait for the next generation of of CPUs to support the USB 4v2 and Thunderbolt 5 and even then manufacturers have to make new enclosures for GPUs to support the new protocol so it’s gonna be a while before it happens. At least GPD is providing a stopgap
@@nathanl2966 Been announced, my guess end of this year early next year. I don't see the point of investing in something that will be not the standard in the next calendrer year.
@@DoubleDragon5180 Uses the same protocol as USB4 just higher data transmission. Think USB3.1 to 3.2 no change in protocol just higher transmission rate. You are right about enclosures though, but I think that will come very quickly as well or might even be backwards compatible, we shall see.
@@JC7119I really hope the new protocols release early next year
It's interesting that this eGPU doesn't seem to have any performance loss vs having the GPU natively in laptop board
Why is the Oculink better than 4.0 usb and does every pc brand has this oculink option or only this Winmax 2?
Is there a date when we can actually buy this small GPU?
How did you connect the GPD G1 with the monitor?(it looks like as it does not have a hdmi 2.1 slot)
Excellent content, I wish they had something like this more available so having a light laptop was much more reasonable thing so can game at home but just use it for work. Your content is always incredible "but" you pleeeease have to run your scripts through a search/replace for the word "but"cuz the amount of times you say "but" gave me semantic satiation
at 4:15 im a bit confused, GPD themselves had mentioned that the device will automatically prioritize the oculink connection by default, and if you use the USB4 on top of oculink it will only pickup as a dock for peripherals...is that not the case anymore?!
I'd love to see a comparison to the GPD G1
Fantastic device. My first time hearing about oculink. Is it a common port on new PCs?
Finallyyyyy The review I’vee Been waiting Moreee pls oculink on other brand and Lappys
Many thanks, please do the test with minisforum over M.2 adapter.
Man. This would be amazing if it was able to Dock with steam deck or rog ally. N was below 400 usd. Absolute beast
Please test some e-sports titles with low settings so as to see how it handles high refresh gaming. It could be a great little setup when attending a LAN. Cheers!
WHOOO HOOOO! I know a bit over the top. Back in the 90s I argued with engineers about this possibility of an external GPU. Foresaw the lowering of Memory. Thought if External GPU was paired with Monitor, then students and workers would be able to take a very small dumb PC box with solid state memory to hold personal config. You would log into remote server located at school or business from anywhere for doing work or learning. For games you would have boxes by companies all of which connected to external GPU lowering cost of gaming units.
This is the spiritual successor to the Thinkpad GPU dock.
yea, I remember wanting that back when it launched...passed when I saw that it required a power brick almost the same size as the dock itself. GPD G1's power supply being built in is a major plus
@@FS-zt6tm yeah.
At least it used the standard lenovo square connector for power.
I have a 300A desk mini pc with a 2400G for a gaming PC in the living room. A decent video might be trying some older generation mini PCs to see the difference it might provide.
Nice review! While occulink is interesting, it will certainly go away at some point with the popularity of thunderbolt and the higher bandwidth thunderbolt 5 right around the corner. However, I want this little egpu!
What kind speeds would thunderbolt 5 do?
@@ezrolly898 80-120Gbps as supposedly reported.
@@brianclarke8503 how can tb5 beat pure pci express access. oculink uses straight pci express connection.. Only way it could beat it is to some how access all pci express x16 slot instead of the partial x4 etc that the oculink uses. if it could do that, then External gpus would be the way to go 100%.
Damn, alot of unanswered questions.
Hi! What laptop do you use in video? Thx!
Thanks for this video! Exciting product. Could you test with a Surface Pro?
apparently you can adjust the 2230 slot in the WM2 to support Oculink
You can do that in every 2230 slot on every device, you're chanching the connector but they still are 4 pcie lanes.
Good quick review
Hopefully when the rx 7900m comes out they will use that chip for stuff like these.
Pricing information?
Does this work with the ROG Ally? The oculink cable connector looks the same connection as the xg mobile cable. Love the channel! Thanks
No, Asus swapped some pins exactly to male it incompatible.
imagine just carrying this in your back pack, you can go anywhere
I don't know if it's me, but that connector looks strangely similar to the one that you put in your Asus products (for example the Asus ROG Ally). Do you know if they are maybe compatible with this OCuLink connector?
If you still have this, I would be very interested to see this running on the Ally X without an external display.