2017 27" Apple iMac Review (Kaby Lake)
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- Lisa Gade reviews the new 27" iMac for 2017. The all-in-one comes standard with a 27” 5K Retina display with wide P3 color gamut, Thunderbolt 3, Apple’s Magic Mouse 2 and Bluetooth Magic Keyboard. The computer starts with quad core 65 watt Intel 7th generation Kaby Lake Core i5 CPUs, and a 4.2 GHz Core i7 is also available. It has AMD Radeon Pro 5xx series graphics (570, 575 and 580 available). The 3 stock configurations cost $1,799, $1,999 and $2,299, and we look at the $1,999 configuration in our review.
The mac supports up to 64GB DDR4 2400MHz RAM, and is available with 1, 2 and 3 TB Fusion drives (a 7200 RPM HDD with large cache) or an SSD. The design is unchanged from the late 2015 iMac, other than the addition of two Thunderbolt 3 (40 Gbps) / USB-C Gen. 2 ports on the back. For those who want even more power, the iMac Pro will be available in December 2017.
I agree with you Lisa that the iMacs are among Apple’s best valued products
Lisa, you're so awesome and independent with your reviews, I would love for you to review more desktop models and also more Chromebooks.
Brian Radeer Chromebooks would be great now that they can run Android apps and come in the convertible variety. Desktops don't make much sense though since it's usually better to build yourself.
asdfrozen desktops still serve a huge purpose for video and photo editing. Not everyone is mobile for extreme jobs and people will always need a desktop solution. (With all do respect of course). Legacy ports will be critical in the future.
I'm not saying desktops are bad, I'm saying it's typically better to build your own desktop rather than buying a prebuilt one.
asdfrozen agreed...
I'd especially like to hear Lisa's take on the better Chromebooks!
In 2017, who would want to use a mechanical hard drive for their OS drive of a $1800 computer?
Jeong-hun Sin fusion drive is a combined add for OS and HDD for storage
Young Kim, is it correct that if you buy the 256GB upgrade for the SSD this means that your 1TB fusion drive now has a 256 SSD? Surely, the 256 SSD is not a REPLACEMENT of the 1TB fusion drive? Thx.
I think its a replacement.
thanks, yes it's a replacement as I discovered today in the local Mac store
Like young kim said but it needs to be said: It has a big 128gb SSD drive inside it that automatically selects your most used files and programs and it obviously has the OS on it, and the rest is a 7200rpm HDD. You could also get PCIe flash storage too when you order.
Unfortunately, Safari currently doesn't support VP9 so recently uploaded 4K TH-cam videos will max out in 1440p on Safari, and Chrome isn't colour managed so videos appear oversaturated on the P3 displays, so there's no perfect way I've found to watch TH-cam 4K on my 2016 iMac 😓
plus something about chrome, when watching youtube videos on Mac OS it takes more of a toll on the cpu then the same video watched on safari. I kinda resale MacBooks and its noticeable on all MacBooks from the 2011 to the 2015. the Mac minis aswell
ultimatebestusername Isn't colour management handled by macos itself (not like in Windows where each application has to do it itself)?
I believe it is supposed to be, but when I load up webpages on chrome they do appear far more saturated than safari for some reason. However, I need to correct myself, there must have been a recent change to chrome or the way youtube renders videos because it seems that at least the videos render colour correctly now, which wasn't the case before (although graphical elements on webpages still appear oversaturated).
wrong. Theres a setting in chrome where you can manually adjust the colour profile. Its a flag
Wow that was quick.
.....that's what she said
Jose Moanińho .
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Simply the best reviewer on Earth. Thanks so much.
I thought a fusion drive was a mechanical drive and and ssd in one drive?
Can you show us how you upgraded the ram!? Please?
i am from the future dec 7th 2018 and theirs still No new imacs so dont wait. Ahhhhhhh i am being sucked back through the time traveling portal AHHHHHH
jim Hunt 😂
from what i read/seen the 21.5" version does not allow for user upgraded ram. so what you buy is what you get. the 27" is user upgradeable
meh I don't like the 21 anyway. I think it looks weird because it is small
Now I'm heavily consider an iMac once my hp workstation laptop which is slow as hell dies (5 1/2 years old).
I want to make my own PC because know it's cheaper and and customizable, but it just seems daunting. It is nice that if I don't want to spend time building, there is a decent option from apple. (Wish they'd be more upgradeable though than just ram though.)
Interesting watching the blackmagic tests! You can tell exactly where it had to move from the flash part of the fusion drive to the HDD. 1TB model is still only 32GB NAND unfortunately. Wonder if you can upgrade the blade SSD part of it.
I for one like the black bezel. Gives it some style, and provides a nice contrast to the display. (And anyone who doesn't, at least they got rid of the outer aluminum bezel.) If they get rid of it, I guess that wouldn't be too bad either. I would however be pretty disappointed if they get rid of the "chin." Gives the slight impression of something more substantial; an actual computer, not just a "smart monitor."
I've been waiting for this! 😀
"Astronomic prices" - is you think, €3750,- (converted from US$) is much, then I imagine you'll be shocked to know €4959,- is preposterous beyond one's loosest expectation. Yes, that's what a 15" MacBook Pro with 3.1GH processor, 16GB memory and 2TB storage costs here in Europe! A rip-off of the a magnitude Æmæricæn can not imagine.
Those inch big black bezels seem to date the design, a month ago I thought surely the new model would reduce those, either expanding the screen or just shrinking the chassis, I'm frankly surprised that did not happen.
6:23, weird that the render for the Pro shows slotted RAM, Apple says it's not upgradable like the standard 27.
while the iMac isn't a top seller, it has been the best product out of apple's camp for a while... They have the best price to performance of all of the Macs....even the mini
Droooooling. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Lisa, is it correct that if you buy the 256GB upgrade for the SSD this means that your 1TB fusion drive now has a 256 SSD? Surely, the 256 SSD is not a REPLACEMENT of the 1TB fusion drive? Thx.
Hi. Nice. That's fast. I wish this they'd offer a trade-in for those who bought the late 2015 iMac just before Christmas last year (it's now obsolete, no Thunderbolt 3). This should have been the late 2016 iMac. God's will be done.
I'm contemplating getting a new iMac so this review was much needed and very helpful. Many thanks.
I'll take it as a sign of the times that, at the start of the video, you almost sounded apologetic for doing this review as it's an actual computer as opposed to a phone or laptop!
Nice review but I wish you guys would've gone for the i7. Thanks, -m
The video is quiet good! But I think every model of the 27-inch iMac has an amd radeon graphics card with at least 4 gb of vRAM. www.apple.com/imac/specs/
Hey Lisa - would love to see a review of the 13" model. I am currently looking at changing my computer. Have the HP Spectre 2016 - the luxurious ash gold one , non 360 but unfortunately have had issues with it and even though it's the second model I've got from HP (they replaced it) - its still having motherboard issues with the USB-C ports. Got a 360 (2016) version and within 2 days the screen was faulty....Sooooo, everyone is trying to get me to go to Mac, and they are beautiful machines. Very wary of staying with HP, so I'd love to also hear about how the HP 360 has stood the test of time and what to be aware of. Thanks for the amazing reviews. You are by far - the best on youtube. Take care.
I'm really considering buying this. But I'm not sure if I should wait for the MacBook Pro with 32gb ram. But I think an iMac would last a lot longer too.
I'm just curious about 4K video editing in 27" i5 3.4 GHz 1TB Fusion Drive (base model) or in 27" 3.5 GHz 1Tb Fusion Drive. I have to decide soon. Will it be big difference between two machines?
Speed is important for me but the question is; is it worth to pay more money for a speed difference?
Dear Lisa, everything is perfect as it's always been, but there is only one thing that bothers me, the microphone. It needs and improvement, not that pleasant to listen to. Maybe this time it wasn't placed well? Previous videos were better in this matter I think.
Fusion drive...I thought fusion was a small SSD portion paired with mechanical so you can use the SSD portion for the OS and the rest for storage?
You said this is good for 4k Netflix and youtube...youtube yes but how in the world do you view 4K Netflix on an iMac?
A powered 7:1 USB 3 hub that tucks under the display can be had from OWC for 30 bucks
My moms names lisa
Man I want this so bad but the exchange rate here in Jamaica is murdering me and I'm going to university so my pocket is dead :(
I got a Mac Mini 7th Gen Quad Core i5 with a top speed of 3.5 Ghz, 8GBS of RAM (e-a-s-i-l-y expandable) and 512SSD. No fusion. Plus a 25 inch 2K monitor from Asus. Total price: $1028.
Now -- if you know anything about Macs you know that's impossible. Because the MacMini is really an Asus VivoMini PC.
Yeah, I know you're all "oooo IIICCCCKKK WinDOZE"... right? I used to be that way too. Lifelong MacUser. Always always ALWAYS had a desktop/iMac. But I simply couldn't justify it this time. For the price of that 27 inch iMac I not only have what I described but also an Asus Zenbook Flip. When I owned iMacs I couldn't justify having a MacBook too.
Ahh... the sad old days...
2014-27 inch model MAXED out like this one...with Final cut, aperture, office 2011, 512 SSD and apple-keyboard, mouse and track pad- $1425 is that a good price???? Let me know guys thanks!!
thank you for this review! I will be upgrading from a March 2011MacBook Pro! I can't wait. I just need to figure out if my work space will truly accommodate the 27" imac or if I should go with the 21.5". either way I'll be so happy! thanks again for the great reviews!
If the 575 can do unigine heaven 60ish fps at 1080p, it's pretty darn good, the 580 will play anything at 1080p, most games even at 1440p, which is fine for an iMac, if you want to game on a 5k monitor @ 60fps you need 1080ti or even 2 of them for some games. It was a good, much needed, upgrade from apple, I can't wait to see what they'll do with the new Mac Pro next year.
There are rumors saying that if you plug the thunderbolt 3 cable to the left side of 2016/2017 MBP 15" and iMac 2017, you can make target display mode working. Is it possible?
So basically if you change and upgrade everything you end up with a decent machine :D
Hi Lisa,
Thanks for doing this review, I was wanting to see how these new iMac performed once people started getting them in the real world . I just bought a late 2015 27" top level standard config at the beginning of the year since I didn't know when Apple was going to release new mac, or if they were going to do something I wouldn't like and take away all user serviceable parts .
From what I can tell from my own research and looking at what people are starting to say, because I don't edit 4k video currently . I won't notice much of a difference . Anyway I look forward to seeing how the new macs hold up. From my understanding Apple computers don't do the new 4k HDR standard officially either, which is something I enjoy on my Android based sony TV. Is it true, that if I wanted a computer with true HDR support that I would have to look outside of the Apple line of products ?
Thanks
I'm just wondering how big the diference in performance of this generation i5 2017 will be compared to my 2011 i7, here in Australia a 27 inch i5 2TB fusion retails for U$S 2800...
Lisa (or anybody) could you tell me what the microphone is that you are using in this video?
Radeon pro 570 has 4GB of VRAM. Why do you say it has 2GB?!?!?
I know I need an upgrade sometime soon, but I can speak for the longevity of the iMac, at least those from a few years ago. I currently run a 2010 iMac for professional print work (Photoshop, Indesign mostly), and it’s still chugging along nicely. It’s not the fastest machine in the world (no SSD) and I can no longer upgrade the OS (on Sierra, should have stuck with Mavericks, lol), but if the new iMacs are built to the same standard, you’re looking at 5+ years of good service :D (p.s I’m not Apple fan girling, just a long time professional user)
Hi! Thanks for the video! Would you please suggest me if 27" with 8gb ram(will upgreat will afte myself) ,radeon580 8gb AND here is the thing :I need for photo editing 90% and 4k video from time to time,so shell I upgrade to i7 instead of i5 and will the 2tb FD do the job nice and smooth to me import,edit and export ,or shell I buy the 512ssd?? Please advice me as soon a second you can,as I need to proceed the order!I trust your recommendation an dthank you so much!
I just wanted to correct something at 5:30 you say the Radeon pro 570 has 2gb however I checked on the apple official website it actually has 4GB thought I'd say this just so anyone watching and considering getting one doesn't get confused.
Great review otherwise!
I don't know why RAM is so expensive !
In my country to get a 32gb RAM its about 500$ and i think the apple should be 600$ , i think i will get it from apple !
how's gaming on this thing using Windows. since it is having enough things for gaming. please make a video about it
I just wish it sported a TouchID (either integrated in the monitor or in both wired and wireless keyboards) and a LED strip instead of function keys. Without costing an arm and a leg, like the MacBook Pro does.
Great review and quite objective as well. I agree, it's almost surprising Apple hasn't priced this machine higher. But then, that's what the iMac Pro is for.
What are you suggest to buy : Mac PRO 6 core / graphic D500 (used 2k/$) or iMac 27 i5 3.4GHz Radeon Pro 570 4GB ??
Lisa you are absolutely Awesome and Thanks for sharing always enjoy watching your Reviews and you definitely tell it like it is.Thanks again Deb 👍
Like your review. I have a question. I have a e-com store I do, as well as edit youtube Vids. So not heavy editing. I'm debating if i should get a Mackbook pro or Imac 27" I do like the portablility, and the backlit keyboard, and touch bar. what do you recommend?
Lisa, please give us all an A.I. overview for the new Mac's with the AMD Radeon GPS compared to other platforms with Nvidia/CUDA and A.I.. Thank you.
I have a late 2013 27' iMac and a new 2017 5K iMac sitting side-by-side; the 2013 is absolutely silent; the new Mac there is constant fan noise, albeit fairly low level. It's not that big a deal but I think you said it was as quiet as the previous generation; it's actually a little noisier, it seems.
My 5k 2017 has fan noise at idle too. It sounds like a constant faint whispering compared to the quiet hum of my old desktop . I've monitored the fan rpm and cpu temp with Macs Fan Control. The rpm is at the minimum of 1200 and cpu temps are 50-52 C. I guess noise is the price we pay for cramming desktop graphics for the first time in an iMac. Previous gen graphics were mobile-based.
I can't seem to find any DDR4 memory kits for 16gb anywhere at the moment even crucial is out of stock and none on amazon
“minor refresh” for the graphics... Ok...
The previous iMacs didn’t have the 400 series. They had the R9 M300 series GPU. This Pro 500 series is leaps and bounds faster. Especially the top-end Radeon Pro 580.
My wife has the small keyboard and iMac. The keys are way too close together and difficult to use. Otherwise a good machine in general (and I hate Apple).
Can I upgrade the hard drive by myself? or do I have to buy the upgrade via Apple
Hi Lisa, I've been following you for a long time and really love your deep and unbiased reviews that always focus on the important and essential stuff without much bla bla. Great job! I habe recently switched over to Chrome OS and would really love to see you do some more Chromebook review and/or Chrome OS in general. Google is getting more and more interesting for folks who are weary having to choose between Mac och Windows. //Greetings from Sweden
I wish you would review more things like video games but baby steps.
Hello Mme Gade.
H from Paris here just to say, once again your reviews are excellent. Was very happy to see that you'd done an iMac review. Can't wait to see the next one.
Thank you as always for your detailed professionalism and honest reviews.
Thank you for the thorough review! Our late 2009 24” iMac gave up the ghost this week. We took it into a local shop and they put a new hard drive in it and got it running again, but my wife and I decided to order the 2017 27” iMac. I am excited for the upgrade! Up until the moment it crashed, the 24” iMac served us well, but it has been showing it’s age, especially when we were left behind for the os updates a little over a year ago (or was it two years ago?). Anyways, I’m glad the 2017 one was introduced this year. It will be nice to have a considerable upgrade shipped to us early next week!
From what I see, you don't get the performance values for the price you pay. PC can deliver much better performance for a much lower price tag.
I love that woman! She knows how to present an informative video. All the relevant points, delivered to the point with little - to no fluff.
Thank you Lisa Gade, for another useful video, and for being respectful with my time.
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Lisa , my husband bout me this imac yesterday and I'm in love. It's whisper quiet too !
I miss the PowerMac's. I owned two in my life and I loved them both. They were expensive .... but not as expensive as Macs are these days. And you could switch the parts out. Good times.
Can you check the storage and speeds of the SSD SATA module that comes with the Fusion drive? Apple are proud to speak about the SSD speeds of the macbooks but they don't provide those of the iMacs I imagine they are not as fast but I would like to know for sure.
Which HDD the 2TB iMac (MNED2LL/A) has? 5400 or 7200 rpm?
Biggest question I needed answered was the Ram upgrade. Thanks. I have saved money in the past upgrading after the fact.
God that mouse still triggers me. Who in their right mind puts the charging port on the bottom?!? APPLE that's who
LISSSAAAAAA
Thank you so much for actually showing how the computer works with this review, other than the typical just talk about the computer.
You keep saying AMD is good for Pro Apps, try using it with Octane renderer. There are still a GPU accelerated apps that are not AMD friendly.
I feel like the 27" 5K iMac is the perfect Mac at the perfect price. If you think of the price, that's $1,000 included.
Thanks for your review. I noticed that the fan of the imac is also in the normal use noticeable. Is that normal?
But in India we get i5 is it wroth of buying for photo and video editing ?
I think I’d have you review everything thats important for me to buy in life? I need a new van for my business....fancy the brief?
Is this i5 quad core iMac work for 4K editing of large files on FCPX? In India, apple does not sell i7 iMacs! :(
Great review. I'm just about to buy one. Could you add in the RAM I'd buy online to upgrade to 32? Thanks.
2017 iMac good value but Big BUT port at the back. Inconvinient
Hello Lisa another well put review "Thanks' ... Ps that's a cute shirt 👚 your wearing
These iMacs are Apples best Macs by far and are priced pretty reasonable especially for having one if not the best displays on the market. You really cant go wrong with it, now with iOS 11 on iPad these iMacs are looking great for my Mac, nice review
Thank you for the great reviews, they sound really independent and it's obvious you know very well what you're talking about.
I'd love to hear what you think of Custom Macs.
Lisa do you do reviews on fancy kitchen coffee makers? I really need one that is as good and simple to use as apple.
Should I get this now or wait for Apple to include their new A11 Bionic chip in the next iMac refresh?
On the 21.5 in" imac. Have they added an access door for the ram? Like the 27".
Mikel Roman no. They never add customizability.
That disk speed test is actually very bad. The MBP 2016 clocks at 1300 MB/s
That's because this is an HDD, not an SSD.
Please get the Hauwei Matebook X the moment it comes out, I can't wait for you to do a review of it.
I want to buy it. Is there a new imac soon or should I buy now?
When is HP coming out with something to blow this expensive box away ! #HPEnvy2017?
I like your review.
Finally the new iMacs are here and do not disappoint!!! Thanks for your review. My iMac is in the mail!!!
They haven't updated the design since 2012
@mobiletechreview Lisa, would you test out an external GPU with the new iMac with nvidia OSX driver?
The Samsung s10+ is the same price Samsung still better
Love the iMac. Still so beautiful and performs like a dream. Like one with 16GB please!
WOW ...your Reviews are Excellent!!! Many thanks to your work:)
Lisa, a fusion drive is actually 2 software connected drives: 1 small SSD for OS and common apps, and 1 HDD for file storage and less commonly used apps
No, it's 1 hybrid drive with a larger than normal NAND storage that is visible and shown as a combined space, and it relies on software to cache regularly used files just like all other.
Henrik Andersson I have replaced a failing SSD on an iMac with Fusion Drive. It is a separate component from the HDD. After replacement, it had to be “re-fused” using Disk Utility.