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FinalCut is pretty good with 4K. Drop resolution and I can do a 4k edit on an 8gb dual core i5 MacBook pro. But as soon as you do multicam it falls apart. The new ones just sail though it! (And yes, Windows can do it for "cheaper", but $70/mth for Adobe crashing all the time makes Apple actually cheaper for me in terms of time and subscription fees)
Just shows how well the Hardware and Software works together! The next 27" iMac (or it's replacement) is going to be epic! M1X or whatever it will be called!
Hilarious. I knew he reminded me of someone but I couldn't quite put my finger on it! Now I keep waiting for him to tell us about an article he read, or something he heard on NPR! Lol
Eel he helped save you, but you also saved yourself since a lot of people don’t bother doing any research before buying something that they will own potentially for years
More RAM, an additional graphics core and an additional fan mean a WHOLE lot less on the M1 than it does on intel. The main thing you're getting for buying a more expensive iMac is the wider choice of colors.
@@lorensims4846 The base and mid-tier iMacs have the same 8GB of RAM, hell even the $1699 iMac has 8GB of RAM. You have to add RAM in the customize section.
I agree. If we knew half of what it takes to get apps to perform on intel macs, it’s a cobweb kept running by very smart people. Apple has been “covering” for intel for years, M1 eliminates the middle man. As time goes on the apps we use will become more streamlined, because of M1.
@@mm-hl7gh What do you mean by "exactly the same"? You think Apple is going to replace its previous Pro with an M1 Pro with 8GB of Ram, the same GPU as this M1 iMac? Highly doubtful. No one who buys a Pro would ever buy that.
@@brandonb.5304 apple would never use the same chip in their macbook air in a "pro" mac. they'd just murder their own sales because everyone would go with the cheap model. i feel like the pro's main goal should be to be powerful enough to not only fly in m1-optimized programs, but be faster than intel in x86 programs.
Love how you actually show your FCPX timeline/editing workflow and the specific cuts to where you encounter issues. This video gives out a relatable kind of feeling.
@9:40 , I thought I was the only one who is experiencing this problem but I do experience it as well. I mainly use Final Cut Pro to edit and would also have at least 2 to 3 layers of 4K videos and another layer of 6K video (but it's a 360 video) and after a while of editing, the sound just wouldn't play until I wait about a minute for the rendition to complete. It sometimes confuses me a little that it can smoothly playback complicated layers smoothly but just quite often it would not play the audio and it can't load the preview images on the timeline that fast. I mainly edit on the 10 core M1 pro with 16gb ram. Of course it's not a high spec computer but it's just something I notice after switching from the quad core i7 macbook pro to the 10 core m1 pro macbook pro. That said, the rendition time and the exporting is much smoother on the m1 pro as well as the playback is much smoother as well (apart from the sometimes "muted" audio and the loading image preview of on the editing timeline)...
Thank you for not trashing the M1 iMac for being slower like other channels have. Like you say, $10,000 machine vs. $1300 machine. Some other reviewers have been comparing it like it's the same price! For my uses, all I want is a computer than can keep up with my spreadsheets, word documents, music, web browsing etc. Nothing more. I am not patient, so I need something fast and responsive. My needs changed, and I sold my Mac Book Air M1 as soon as this came out, and I got my hands on one. This is my first ever iMac - having owned 3 MacBook Airs over the last 10 years. Must say, I am happily throwing away my old PC speaker system, and selling the second screen I used to have. The 23.5" display is more than enough space for me not to need two screens, and like you I am super happy with the design of it. I did go for the £1,649 model, purely because I wanted 512 storage, but that's more for longevity for me. Also, I wanted the extra ports, and now understand it has an extra fan also. Perhaps the base model would have been fine, but this year my business has done well, and I have the funds to pay - of course it's offset against my tax :)
I've had the sound issue also. Here's the scoop: -Running an M1 macbook Pro, 8-core GPU, 16GB, 1TB -I live in Logic Pro X; 8-10 hours per week -issue occurred twice since November '20; mid action, sound drops, no explanation -solution was to restart Macbook (issue occured across apps and sound was dropped while streaming vids in Safari) Luke, you're a boss! Love your work, man!
I am not surprised about the performance. Over the weekend, I was editing a virtual choir video that has 109 videos. 80% of them are 1080P and the rest 720P.. 95% of these videos have color correction and other effects. At the end of the editing process I have ALL 109 videos on screen at the same time, there are 4 compound clips, that are inside of a 4 quadrant effect (that has an animation). I was originally editing this on my 2019 iMac 3.6 i9 with 40GB of ram. Can you imagine how much fun it was to edit this video in that situation. Well after hours of waiting around to do anything I decided to pack this up, move the project to my M1 MBP (8GB ram) and see if I could finish the edit there, and guess what? I was able to finish this monster of a project in about 30 minutes. For me this just proves the power of Apple Silicone, and I will be first in line to get a new next-gen top of the line iMac, or Mac Pro. If you want to see what 109 layers of video look like, let me know.
Luke, I wasn’t surprised at all. That iMac Pro is a beast of a PC. I think you’ll switch back eventually to the iMac Pro eventually. See you soon iMac Pro. 😉
I got a M1, 16 RAM, 2 TB MacMini on a Ultrafine 5K. I also use the same Anker hub you have in your video. I absolutely love it for video editing and I think I'm set for years to come with this setup.
The high end configs of it will be able to play back 4 8K30fps videos in Final Cut. And that won’t even be Apple’s highest end SoC, that’ll be the M1Z with 32 high performance and 4-8 high efficiency cores, and 128 GPU cores. And maybe an even higher end SoC in the future, if the rumors Luke reported on are correct (128 CPU cores, 256 GPU cores).
@@utubekullanicisi I wonder how big the actual silicon will be given how big (or small) their current M1 package is. It would have to be 16 times bigger for 128 cores alone I think, maybe less if it's at 2 or 3nm. But still, 128 cores is no joke. Just look at how big AMD Threadripper 3990X is with just 64 cores.
Audio issue does also occasionally happen with a non-M1 mac 20205k iMac, Have you noticed that on the right-hand side inspector windows the scroll bars are missing even if they are set to always show in the system preferences? you need to use the scroll function on the mouse to make them appear if you need to scroll for add-on's. A big deal for most people but I use an upright RSI friendly mouse and pretty much can't use FCPX as I used to anymore since last update as I can't scroll without an apple mouse. It's also super annoying that FCPX does not keep preferences for Skimming, Insta snap, thumbnail size and style. Find they change frequently without me doing anything
I recently did some color work on a video in Davinci Resolve with my base M1 MBP. It took about 2 hours 30 minutes to render. Curious to see how it would compare, I rendered the same job with my high performance "gaming" PC that has an overclocked water-cooled Core i7, RTX 2080 Super, 32 GB RAM, and a 1TB 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD. I figured the PC would finish _slightly_ faster and that would be a testament to how amazing it was that my little MBP could keep up with this huge, custom built, water cooled behemoth. I couldn't have been more wrong. DaVinci estimated that it was going to take _over 11 hours_ for the PC to render the exact same job!! I couldn't believe it! the next generation of Apple silicone is going to be insane!
I’m using the m1 Mac mini. My videos are far less complexed than yours, but I am loving it. Being able to actually edit 4k60 and not have to lower the resolution of the timeline is amazing. I’m still using Davinci resolve because it is what I know and works so good but I do have 3 months of Final Cut Pro installed but I’m not sure I want to try it cuz if I do end up liking it then that’s 300$ I gotta spend lol.
Great video. I guess over a decade of optimizing Apple Silicon to function under all the constraints of being inside an iPhone shows up in the performance of the user interface. The other main differentiator is the way improved hardware implemented CODECS for more recent 4K (and 8K) video formats. If you had the Big MacPro tower or a Windows box, you could update the graphics card every year and those 18 Xeon cores would do everything you need for the next 15 years. Obviously what Apple’s done with an iPhone SOC in their entry level computers is impressive. By the end of 2022 when they’ve migrated their pro line to more workstation like CPU cores, it might be time to replace your Xeon iMacPro.
That audio issue in FCP happens to me on my 2015 27” 5k iMac all the time lately. I think it’s an issue with the latest FCP version. Anyway, sweet video as always, Luke! Superior content lately
Have had the same audio issue with my 16 GB RAM/ 1 TB M1 Mac Mini and FCP. It drops, I relaunch FCP and it works fine. Thought I was doing something wrong, glad to hear I'm not the only one!
Seeing the old and new designs side by side really just reminds me how good the old design looks. Sure, the new one is thin as hell, but the old one still just looks better.
@15:00, I agree completely. It cannot be understated what Apple has designs on what's to come. The base 8gb ram is ok for now, but consumers will ultimately force Apple to boost the base model to minimum 16gb ram.
@@sarahamaniampong1405 Nobody can tell, but you might be right in the sense that models based on the next Apple ARM chip (M1X or whatever), will not replace M1's, but the top-end Intel-based ones. In other words, they will not have prices comparable to m1's, but constitute a more expensive tier in the range.
I’m getting that audio issue on my MacBook Air. Happens every couple of days. It fixes itself when I leave if for a minute or two - but it’s quicker to close and relaunch
Hello, have the same problems. I try on several Mac m1, and it the same results....there is no sound when I move or work on rushes. it coms back when I quit and restart fop, or after several minutes....did you solve this problem?
I use an M1 13inch MacBook pro and have audio issues when using Luma Fission. But I closed the app and opened it again to resolve the issue. Interestingly the problem still persists today in 2022.
Excellent down to earth real life (no waffling) honest video of the iMac 24 Vs iMac 27 pro. I'm sold, in fact I have ordered one with extra ports and 16gb ram.
I've had a similar audio issue on a non-M1 mac for a few months. This is what works for me: Open Activity Monitor, find the coreaudiod process, and terminate it. It respawns automatically and audio output resumes normally. YMMV.
Someone once called the new iMac an 'ipad on a stick' and I can't stop thinking about it I'm now torn between an iMac or a Mac Mini as my new work machine when I do upgrade, pretty rediculous performance for a base level iMac
yes. before we used to see differences on Mac computers and iMac used to be "the beast" now, iMac is just a fluffy-colored computer and all models (air, pro, mini...) deliver more or less the same result, bad for consumers to select one...
@@ryanb55 I'm thinking the same. There's rumours/leaks about a redesigned mac mini which seems to be smaller and have better IO. Whats making me want an iMac is that I'm currently using a 2004 cinema display and there's no fucking way I'm going to bother doing a load of adapters to make it work with a 2021 machine...
Love your video's. I am a windows user but I have always been fascinated with how mac performs. So I have just bought a second-hand iPad Air 2, and I love it compared with my Andriod Huawei tablet. So the curiosity continued and have also just purchased a second-hand MacBook pro mid 2012 from eBay at great price and spec. So now my actual question is, I do a lot of music production on a windows laptop i7, 16Gb ram, and it performs ok but sometimes struggles when I get to around 8 vst instrument tracks in the same session. Do you think an iMac OSX would perform better than a windows system, and which do iMac do you think would be best for this?
Final Cut Pro M1 MacBook Air user here. Noticed the weird sound bug about once or twice. For me, pausing and waiting 2 minutes for it to render usually fixes it? Hope this helps?!
I think if you need a bigger display a Mac Mini + whatever you want is more cost-effective (you loose something, but you gain more ports an choice, and 8 gpu cores on the base model)
The most thing I am impressed about is how much is actually doable with just 8GB RAM. I bought my iMac 2019 21.5" about 1,5 years ago with just 8GB of RAM and a FusionDrive (biggest mistake I could make!) because I was told it is enough for everything I would do with it. I was annoyed by really long waiting times for simple stuff (even opening Safari took 15-20s!) and in case of the new iMac, the Mac Mini and the new MacBooks I heard a lot about that being over. In the end I upgraded my iMac with SSDs and 32GB of RAM which did the deal for me. If my iMac would not be still nearly as new, I would absolutely consider buying an M1 iMac (base model).
I’m so excited to get my mid tier iMac. God, it has been long awaited for something like this to come out from Apple. I was never a fan of the Intel memory as it seemed buggy and slow at best… I hadn’t upgraded for 7 years. I am so giddy with excitement to get back to editing videos and making art videos without losing quality (using just my iPad)
Nice review, it confirms my belief, that for my purpose (general PC use) the middle iMac configuration will be fine, although I am thinking of going for 16gb for a bit of future-proofing. Now those desk mats, what is the brand of the matching green one you place under the green iMac?
I bought 2 macbook air(for my wife and me) in november to replace my 2014 fully specced MacBook Pro for video editing for our small TH-cam channel. Couldn’t have made better change. It’s blazing fast, no noise. A lot lighter to travel… but we noticed on our first video the audio problem u mentioned. It’s annoying Apple hasn’t fixed it since launch of M1 Macs. Great channel Luke! And nice change of decor 😁 Bjorn
I have noticed some weird audio issues with my m1 Mac mini. I though it was the Bluetooth connection with my headphones that was the problem. If I reload/restart the application then the audio issues are fixed. Similar to the issue you had with Final Cut. Maybe some further investigation is needed in that regard?
I don't understand how people can use the Magic Mouse, Keyboard and Trackpad. I have the three and I love them, but man they get so cold that the aluminum parts when I touch them feels like burning and are unusable to me for that reason :c
hey I currently edit on 2015 MacBook Pro, was wondering what you would suggest as an upgrade as its starting to struggle and getting old also would you do a video on your external as well I think that would be majorly helpful for me at least
I’ve been thinking about video editing coming from an old 2014 MacBook Pro and was looking at either 14 or 16 M1 laptops, would I be better off with I-Mac 24 and just up the gpu to say 16, 10 cores and say 1TB storage as seams a better deal ??😊
The single core Geekbench benchmarks for the Intel Xeon W-2191B (released in late 2017) is 1067, while on the Apple M1 it is 1710 (approximately 60% faster). Passmark's CPU Benchmarks (with a Xeon W-2195) show similar single core benchmarks (2413 vs 3758; approximately 55% faster). The multi-core Geekbench benchmarks for the Intel Xeon W-2191B is 13356, while on the Apple M1 it is 7412 (approximately 45% slower). Passmark's CPU Benchmarks show similar multi-core benchmarks (27325 vs 15131; approximately 45% slower). Unless, my percentage estimations are mistaken....
@@florider_hd My current PC has 512 GB as well with about 160 GB free after exactly three years. So 256 GB wasn't an option for me. If 512 GB will not be enough, I'd buy an external SSD though, the "official" upgrades are way too expensive in my opinion.
Sometimes you need the RAM. I used to have a HP Dual CPU workstation with half a Terabyte of Ram, and for some of my 4 billion polygon renders, it still wasn't really enough.
@@10p6 Interesting. I never knew what benefits/use cases all that ram would have, now the 1.5 terabytes of ram on the Mac Pro doesn’t sound as ridiculous. It’s still expensive though lol
One of my best friends is a programmer who exclusively uses MacOS. He says he's not upgrading until they offer 128 gigs of ECC RAM in their desktop (over the 64 in his iMac Pro) and I don't blame him.
@@dial2616 Yeah makes sense. Personally, I have 16 gb on my 15 MacBook Pro, if not only because that was the standard (I think? It’s a 2016). But I love it, I can’t imagine only having 8. It would be so limiting. But if I’m going to upgrade, I would consider at least getting 32. I don’t really do heavy stuff on my MacBook, but maybe I will down the line. I’m not sure
@@halami2149 MacOS is notoriously memory intensive, so having more is always better. Unfortunately, it looks like having more RAM also doubles the swapfile (for paging purposes) meaning that it could potentially decrease SSD lifespan even further.
Out of curiosity, which version of Big Sur were you running when you were editing the video? Apparently, according to a MacRumors forum thread, apple has changed something in 11.4 so that the M1 fills in as much of the available RAM as possible before starting to write to the SSD.
I'm curious to see how the mid level iMac with 16GB of RAM would do against your current beast. I'm definitely upgrading to the new iMac because my mid 2011 iMac is finally getting so slow it hurts!
I totally expected to say that you won't switch to the new iMac despite it being so good at 14:09, but woah. It's incredible that an entry level iMac can replace your Pro desktop that costs 9x more.
(I think) you said blender was worsened by Rosetta. Please try your Blender bench again with the beta Universal or straight Apple silicon Blender version. I think you'll see some improvement (assuming it works, they were still missing some features a couple of weeks ago with I gave it a whirl). Thanks for this episode!
6:11 personnally even though not being able to hear the fans is GREAT, when editing 4k i would use something like istat to raise the fan speed and get better performance.
Do you think an M1 iMac could replace your current Mac? Why or why not? Also, check out TotalAV at www.totalav.com/lukemiani to get their antivirus suite for $19 per year!
No I have quick heal😆🤣
Yes, we replaced our Late 2015 21.5” 4K iMac with the new 2021 4 port M1 iMac.
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Man if your planing to give that away then send that to me please and congratulation on 300k subs
I have 2013 MacBook Pro sooooo Yeees
The fact that it is even comfortable to edit 4k with this thing is impressive
I dont think it's that impressive for a 1300$ computer to be able to edit 4k video easily
@@amirla5797 on god bro lol
@@amirla5797 but i mean for a base line mac its pretty good (Mac users just don't know windows uses can buy a 32GB pc for a little less but oh well)
FinalCut is pretty good with 4K. Drop resolution and I can do a 4k edit on an 8gb dual core i5 MacBook pro. But as soon as you do multicam it falls apart. The new ones just sail though it! (And yes, Windows can do it for "cheaper", but $70/mth for Adobe crashing all the time makes Apple actually cheaper for me in terms of time and subscription fees)
@@SeanRosairo yeah but Davinci resolve is a one time payment and has more tools then final cut
It would be interesting to see how the M1 iMac would compare if you had opted for the 16 Gig model.
Just shows how well the Hardware and Software works together! The next 27" iMac (or it's replacement) is going to be epic! M1X or whatever it will be called!
This just shows how bad the price/performance of the iMac Pro was.
Congrats on 300k!
I’m still so proud of Jonah for moving on from the tv show Superstore & getting a job in Tech. He’s come a long way.
I came across that show for the first time the other week and my immediate thought was the same. . . "whoah, it's that dude from the interwebz."
😂😂😂
Hilarious. I knew he reminded me of someone but I couldn't quite put my finger on it! Now I keep waiting for him to tell us about an article he read, or something he heard on NPR! Lol
Thx for pointing out the inside difference between the base and higher tier iMac, saved me from making a huge mistake
Eel he helped save you, but you also saved yourself since a lot of people don’t bother doing any research before buying something that they will own potentially for years
@@thatwasprettyneat yeah mate
More RAM, an additional graphics core and an additional fan mean a WHOLE lot less on the M1 than it does on intel.
The main thing you're getting for buying a more expensive iMac is the wider choice of colors.
@@lorensims4846 The base and mid-tier iMacs have the same 8GB of RAM, hell even the $1699 iMac has 8GB of RAM. You have to add RAM in the customize section.
@@lorensims4846 Well, there's also the two additional USB-C ports...
Been editing with the M1 since the mini came out. It's just minor stuff for me but it still works very well.
Same here! I can finally edit 4k60 on the timeline without a proxy if I want I can edit a 4K timeline on 4K! It’s amazing
@@DeRock401 8 gpu or 7 gpu?? Basic model with 8gb ram ????
You know you’re early when not even luke miani has 500 views 😂 congrats on 300k btw
I find it pretty impressive that te new iMacs can do almost anything the expensive pro models can.
This tech is a game changer
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I agree. If we knew half of what it takes to get apps to perform on intel macs, it’s a cobweb kept running by very smart people. Apple has been “covering” for intel for years, M1 eliminates the middle man. As time goes on the apps we use will become more streamlined, because of M1.
Can’t imagine how the new iMac Pro powered by a Apple Silicone would behave !!!!
I bet the imac pro will be exactly the same but a few more USB ports and space gray color. (And a PRO price)
@@mm-hl7gh 🤦♂️ how much do you bet?
@@mm-hl7gh What do you mean by "exactly the same"? You think Apple is going to replace its previous Pro with an M1 Pro with 8GB of Ram, the same GPU as this M1 iMac? Highly doubtful. No one who buys a Pro would ever buy that.
@@brandonb.5304 apple would never use the same chip in their macbook air in a "pro" mac. they'd just murder their own sales because everyone would go with the cheap model. i feel like the pro's main goal should be to be powerful enough to not only fly in m1-optimized programs, but be faster than intel in x86 programs.
@@cunty i mean, the current macbook pro m1 and air m1 are barely different
Love how you actually show your FCPX timeline/editing workflow and the specific cuts to where you encounter issues. This video gives out a relatable kind of feeling.
"gives out a relatable kind of feeling."? Christ.
My boy out here looking like a dad with that shirt
@9:40 , I thought I was the only one who is experiencing this problem but I do experience it as well. I mainly use Final Cut Pro to edit and would also have at least 2 to 3 layers of 4K videos and another layer of 6K video (but it's a 360 video) and after a while of editing, the sound just wouldn't play until I wait about a minute for the rendition to complete. It sometimes confuses me a little that it can smoothly playback complicated layers smoothly but just quite often it would not play the audio and it can't load the preview images on the timeline that fast. I mainly edit on the 10 core M1 pro with 16gb ram. Of course it's not a high spec computer but it's just something I notice after switching from the quad core i7 macbook pro to the 10 core m1 pro macbook pro. That said, the rendition time and the exporting is much smoother on the m1 pro as well as the playback is much smoother as well (apart from the sometimes "muted" audio and the loading image preview of on the editing timeline)...
Proud to be in a family of 300k . Keep on the great work.
Thank you for not trashing the M1 iMac for being slower like other channels have. Like you say, $10,000 machine vs. $1300 machine. Some other reviewers have been comparing it like it's the same price! For my uses, all I want is a computer than can keep up with my spreadsheets, word documents, music, web browsing etc. Nothing more. I am not patient, so I need something fast and responsive. My needs changed, and I sold my Mac Book Air M1 as soon as this came out, and I got my hands on one. This is my first ever iMac - having owned 3 MacBook Airs over the last 10 years. Must say, I am happily throwing away my old PC speaker system, and selling the second screen I used to have. The 23.5" display is more than enough space for me not to need two screens, and like you I am super happy with the design of it. I did go for the £1,649 model, purely because I wanted 512 storage, but that's more for longevity for me. Also, I wanted the extra ports, and now understand it has an extra fan also. Perhaps the base model would have been fine, but this year my business has done well, and I have the funds to pay - of course it's offset against my tax :)
Congrats on 300K subs! Been a fan of your channel since a few years ago! :)
I've had the sound issue also. Here's the scoop:
-Running an M1 macbook Pro, 8-core GPU, 16GB, 1TB
-I live in Logic Pro X; 8-10 hours per week
-issue occurred twice since November '20; mid action, sound drops, no explanation
-solution was to restart Macbook (issue occured across apps and sound was dropped while streaming vids in Safari)
Luke, you're a boss! Love your work, man!
I am not surprised about the performance. Over the weekend, I was editing a virtual choir video that has 109 videos. 80% of them are 1080P and the rest 720P.. 95% of these videos have color correction and other effects. At the end of the editing process I have ALL 109 videos on screen at the same time, there are 4 compound clips, that are inside of a 4 quadrant effect (that has an animation). I was originally editing this on my 2019 iMac 3.6 i9 with 40GB of ram. Can you imagine how much fun it was to edit this video in that situation. Well after hours of waiting around to do anything I decided to pack this up, move the project to my M1 MBP (8GB ram) and see if I could finish the edit there, and guess what? I was able to finish this monster of a project in about 30 minutes. For me this just proves the power of Apple Silicone, and I will be first in line to get a new next-gen top of the line iMac, or Mac Pro. If you want to see what 109 layers of video look like, let me know.
Wow!
i want to see it!
I just bought the 2020 iMac 3.6ghz i9 with 32gb of ram, did I shoot myself in the foot by not buying an M1 iMac?
@@thelouisbisson would like to know that too
I want to see, can you please send a screenshot to my email?
You have a marvellous on screen presence. You really should consider television or acting. Well done.
*300K!* Congratulations!
I get the Audio problem on fcp on a MacBook M1 pretty much every time I edit a video - very annoying I have to restart like you did
Luke, I wasn’t surprised at all. That iMac Pro is a beast of a PC. I think you’ll switch back eventually to the iMac Pro eventually.
See you soon iMac Pro. 😉
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Bye
@@JuniorTechnoArtist I barely had a chance to say hello. 😂
I got a M1, 16 RAM, 2 TB MacMini on a Ultrafine 5K. I also use the same Anker hub you have in your video. I absolutely love it for video editing and I think I'm set for years to come with this setup.
A M1X space grey iMac Pro would be a perfect desktop for me! M1X will probably be able to render 10 videos at a time or something 😂
I also really hope apple introduce a Mac Pro, especially in slightly more subtle colours! 😂
I’m gonna put an emoji for no reason 😂
@@YimYum911 😂🤣
The high end configs of it will be able to play back 4 8K30fps videos in Final Cut. And that won’t even be Apple’s highest end SoC, that’ll be the M1Z with 32 high performance and 4-8 high efficiency cores, and 128 GPU cores. And maybe an even higher end SoC in the future, if the rumors Luke reported on are correct (128 CPU cores, 256 GPU cores).
@@utubekullanicisi I wonder how big the actual silicon will be given how big (or small) their current M1 package is. It would have to be 16 times bigger for 128 cores alone I think, maybe less if it's at 2 or 3nm. But still, 128 cores is no joke. Just look at how big AMD Threadripper 3990X is with just 64 cores.
Audio issue does also occasionally happen with a non-M1 mac 20205k iMac, Have you noticed that on the right-hand side inspector windows the scroll bars are missing even if they are set to always show in the system preferences? you need to use the scroll function on the mouse to make them appear if you need to scroll for add-on's. A big deal for most people but I use an upright RSI friendly mouse and pretty much can't use FCPX as I used to anymore since last update as I can't scroll without an apple mouse. It's also super annoying that FCPX does not keep preferences for Skimming, Insta snap, thumbnail size and style. Find they change frequently without me doing anything
Anyone else watching on a new iMac? Great video Luke!
Meee. Which color did you got. I got a green one
@@NoOne-im3cs I am poor🥲
Watching this on my 11 year old iMac 😀👍🏻
Watching on iPhone 11
Going to a Mxxx mini for my desktop. Already have monitors, a keyboard, and a mouse I love.
Hey, working and cutting on fcpx on a m1 macmini with 16gigs of ram. I DONT have that weird audio problem thankfully.
I recently did some color work on a video in Davinci Resolve with my base M1 MBP. It took about 2 hours 30 minutes to render. Curious to see how it would compare, I rendered the same job with my high performance "gaming" PC that has an overclocked water-cooled Core i7, RTX 2080 Super, 32 GB RAM, and a 1TB 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD. I figured the PC would finish _slightly_ faster and that would be a testament to how amazing it was that my little MBP could keep up with this huge, custom built, water cooled behemoth. I couldn't have been more wrong. DaVinci estimated that it was going to take _over 11 hours_ for the PC to render the exact same job!! I couldn't believe it! the next generation of Apple silicone is going to be insane!
I’m using the m1 Mac mini. My videos are far less complexed than yours, but I am loving it. Being able to actually edit 4k60 and not have to lower the resolution of the timeline is amazing.
I’m still using Davinci resolve because it is what I know and works so good but I do have 3 months of Final Cut Pro installed but I’m not sure I want to try it cuz if I do end up liking it then that’s 300$ I gotta spend lol.
Great video. I guess over a decade of optimizing Apple Silicon to function under all the constraints of being inside an iPhone shows up in the performance of the user interface. The other main differentiator is the way improved hardware implemented CODECS for more recent 4K (and 8K) video formats. If you had the Big MacPro tower or a Windows box, you could update the graphics card every year and those 18 Xeon cores would do everything you need for the next 15 years. Obviously what Apple’s done with an iPhone SOC in their entry level computers is impressive. By the end of 2022 when they’ve migrated their pro line to more workstation like CPU cores, it might be time to replace your Xeon iMacPro.
How does your 18 core iMac Pro compare to the 12 core 5,1 Mac Pro you upgraded a while ago?
That audio issue in FCP happens to me on my 2015 27” 5k iMac all the time lately. I think it’s an issue with the latest FCP version. Anyway, sweet video as always, Luke! Superior content lately
Have had the same audio issue with my 16 GB RAM/ 1 TB M1 Mac Mini and FCP. It drops, I relaunch FCP and it works fine. Thought I was doing something wrong, glad to hear I'm not the only one!
Hey Luke! Super stoked how your channel has been growing over the last 2 years! Keep up the awesome work!
What lightbulbs are you using in your lamps? They're so nice and warm.
Seeing the old and new designs side by side really just reminds me how good the old design looks. Sure, the new one is thin as hell, but the old one still just looks better.
PERIODDDDDDD the new one is ugly 😂😂😂😂 (the pro does look a lot better in general tho, like a beast, coz it is!)
No way the old one looks ugly and basic
@@DaffyTaffy93 the new ones looks like it’s made kids
@@StaceChristopher that’s couse it kinda is. It’s not a pro model. It’s supposed to look appealing not industrial like iPad Air vs iPad Pro.
9:25 - it is not M1 imo, I have it on my 2018 MBPro 13” with i5. I do the same. Turn FCPX off and on and it is ok
@15:00, I agree completely. It cannot be understated what Apple has designs on what's to come. The base 8gb ram is ok for now, but consumers will ultimately force Apple to boost the base model to minimum 16gb ram.
If i’m editing footage that goes up to 30 mins to export, should I get the 8 GB or 16 GB?
Bigger is better.
Seeing this I want to wait a little bit for the M1X Mac but this makes me so excited for it
Yeah exactly.
Have you purchased a newer iMac?
Don’t wait, you’ll be disappointed
@@sarahamaniampong1405 Nobody can tell, but you might be right in the sense that models based on the next Apple ARM chip (M1X or whatever), will not replace M1's, but the top-end Intel-based ones. In other words, they will not have prices comparable to m1's, but constitute a more expensive tier in the range.
It’s literally like two week wait just wait
@@semahj Isn't it sooner now? (:
How about edit on the M1 iMac and save any intermediate files. Using thunderbolt cable to transfer those to iMac Pro for rendering and exporting.
I wanna see the long term review for this model and the mid tier to see how they hold up and if 16gb of RAM would be necessary
My 2009 iMac has 16GB RAM. It is hilarious that new iMacs have less! WTF!
@@777jones new iMacs don't need that much.
@@unknownaura "Need" is a relative term and increased RAM would make the M1 efficient. You might not need more RAM, but I sure do.
I’m getting that audio issue on my MacBook Air. Happens every couple of days. It fixes itself when I leave if for a minute or two - but it’s quicker to close and relaunch
Here as well with a cMP 2010… FCPX issue not related with the Mac model for sure
@@AlvaroGutierrezRomero interesting. I don't get it on either of my other machines, weird!
Hello, have the same problems. I try on several Mac m1, and it the same results....there is no sound when I move or work on rushes. it coms back when I quit and restart fop, or after several minutes....did you solve this problem?
What if instead of a base model you got one of the more higher end M1 iMacs? Would that have given you better ram and render times?
and ports
I use an M1 13inch MacBook pro and have audio issues when using Luma Fission. But I closed the app and opened it again to resolve the issue. Interestingly the problem still persists today in 2022.
What this tells me is that tests like cinebench only gives you part of the result. There’s no substitute for real use tests.
Great video. However wouldn't you have been better off comparing the imac pro with a fully maxed out 24 M1 Imac with 16gb ram and 1tb SSD?
Many people thought I was crazy to sell my maxed out MBP 16" for a M1 MBA… Best decision ever 👏
Apple silicon is incredibly impressive
I did the same!
I mean the maxxed out model is more powerful then M1 with 16GB, but I guess it wont die from over heating
8gb m1? or 16gb?
8gpu cores, 16gb with 1tb SSD
@@catherinedesrochers you can max out to 8TB and 64Gb but thats will a good configuration I get why you would get a M1
Excellent down to earth real life (no waffling) honest video of the iMac 24 Vs iMac 27 pro. I'm sold, in fact I have ordered one with extra ports and 16gb ram.
I saw this but today i forgot the thumbnail so i laughed out loud and then said Ight i gotta watch now
I've had a similar audio issue on a non-M1 mac for a few months. This is what works for me:
Open Activity Monitor, find the coreaudiod process, and terminate it. It respawns automatically and audio output resumes normally. YMMV.
Someone once called the new iMac an 'ipad on a stick' and I can't stop thinking about it
I'm now torn between an iMac or a Mac Mini as my new work machine when I do upgrade, pretty rediculous performance for a base level iMac
I love my intel Mac mini, once one comes out with a bit better IO and multi-monitor support, I will snag one.
yes. before we used to see differences on Mac computers and iMac used to be "the beast" now, iMac is just a fluffy-colored computer and all models (air, pro, mini...) deliver more or less the same result, bad for consumers to select one...
@@jimkika I actually kind of agree with you here. Like it is almost all entirely about form factor now.
@@ryanb55 I'm thinking the same. There's rumours/leaks about a redesigned mac mini which seems to be smaller and have better IO. Whats making me want an iMac is that I'm currently using a 2004 cinema display and there's no fucking way I'm going to bother doing a load of adapters to make it work with a 2021 machine...
Love your video's. I am a windows user but I have always been fascinated with how mac performs. So I have just bought a second-hand iPad Air 2, and I love it compared with my Andriod Huawei tablet. So the curiosity continued and have also just purchased a second-hand MacBook pro mid 2012 from eBay at great price and spec. So now my actual question is, I do a lot of music production on a windows laptop i7, 16Gb ram, and it performs ok but sometimes struggles when I get to around 8 vst instrument tracks in the same session. Do you think an iMac OSX would perform better than a windows system, and which do iMac do you think would be best for this?
Congrats on 300K! been here since
same, miani proper apple guy
The audio drop off issue in FCPX on my M1 Air happens, but it doesn't happen all the time (1X every 5-10 edits...maybe) I just restart FCP.
If it wasn’t for the smaller 24” screen, I would already have sold my iMac Pro
@@Kierant2010 that's why he hasn't sold it yet.
Final Cut Pro M1 MacBook Air user here.
Noticed the weird sound bug about once or twice. For me, pausing and waiting 2 minutes for it to render usually fixes it? Hope this helps?!
What about the screen size? Does it feel like it's too small to work on once you are used to 27"?
24" is definitely big enough but the 27" is much better IMO.
I think if you need a bigger display a Mac Mini + whatever you want is more cost-effective (you loose something, but you gain more ports an choice, and 8 gpu cores on the base model)
The most thing I am impressed about is how much is actually doable with just 8GB RAM. I bought my iMac 2019 21.5" about 1,5 years ago with just 8GB of RAM and a FusionDrive (biggest mistake I could make!) because I was told it is enough for everything I would do with it. I was annoyed by really long waiting times for simple stuff (even opening Safari took 15-20s!) and in case of the new iMac, the Mac Mini and the new MacBooks I heard a lot about that being over. In the end I upgraded my iMac with SSDs and 32GB of RAM which did the deal for me.
If my iMac would not be still nearly as new, I would absolutely consider buying an M1 iMac (base model).
I’m so excited to get my mid tier iMac. God, it has been long awaited for something like this to come out from Apple. I was never a fan of the Intel memory as it seemed buggy and slow at best… I hadn’t upgraded for 7 years. I am so giddy with excitement to get back to editing videos and making art videos without losing quality (using just my iPad)
Congrats on 300k man love your video’s 👍🏻
Nice review, it confirms my belief, that for my purpose (general PC use) the middle iMac configuration will be fine, although I am thinking of going for 16gb for a bit of future-proofing. Now those desk mats, what is the brand of the matching green one you place under the green iMac?
I bought 2 macbook air(for my wife and me) in november to replace my 2014 fully specced MacBook Pro for video editing for our small TH-cam channel. Couldn’t have made better change. It’s blazing fast, no noise. A lot lighter to travel… but we noticed on our first video the audio problem u mentioned. It’s annoying Apple hasn’t fixed it since launch of M1 Macs.
Great channel Luke! And nice change of decor 😁
Bjorn
I’ll actually look into this as it cost less than my new iPad Pro 🥺
I like how Apple makes out a problem to it's customers and then sells them the solution. Classy
Question: if you only have 8gb of Ram in a M1 machine, is that comparable to 8gb in a Intel Mac? Or does your 8gbs go further with M1?
I have noticed some weird audio issues with my m1 Mac mini. I though it was the Bluetooth connection with my headphones that was the problem. If I reload/restart the application then the audio issues are fixed. Similar to the issue you had with Final Cut. Maybe some further investigation is needed in that regard?
Now you can plug the speakers into that dock vs the iMac itself.
Can u add the RAM from the iMac Pro into the new M1 or is it different RAM?
My thoughts? Well, we don't have the luxury of getting a new iMac every time a new one comes out. The waiting game can't always be played by us.
In 2023 - what would you suggest for day to day professional use:
1. i7 Intel iMac 2020 or
2. M1 iMac 2021
Wait……. Do you actually use the Magic Mouse? I would have thought you’d use something like a Logitech MX series mouse.
he was testing the stock 1299$ package without an extra 100$ mx master
@@riccardogavanelli1076 There’s a black one next to the iMac Pro
I don't understand how people can use the Magic Mouse, Keyboard and Trackpad. I have the three and I love them, but man they get so cold that the aluminum parts when I touch them feels like burning and are unusable to me for that reason :c
@@wilsoncolocho8591 what
@@wilsoncolocho8591 you live in a freezer?
hey I currently edit on 2015 MacBook Pro, was wondering what you would suggest as an upgrade as its starting to struggle and getting old also would you do a video on your external as well I think that would be majorly helpful for me at least
Great Video, Luke. Exactly the content most of us want!
I’ve been thinking about video editing coming from an old 2014 MacBook Pro and was looking at either 14 or 16 M1 laptops, would I be better off with I-Mac 24 and just up the gpu to say 16, 10 cores and say 1TB storage as seams a better deal ??😊
Need the single core metrics between the Xeon and M1, I'm guessing it'll be a reverse blood bath.
The single core Geekbench benchmarks for the Intel Xeon W-2191B (released in late 2017) is 1067, while on the Apple M1 it is 1710 (approximately 60% faster). Passmark's CPU Benchmarks (with a Xeon W-2195) show similar single core benchmarks (2413 vs 3758; approximately 55% faster). The multi-core Geekbench benchmarks for the Intel Xeon W-2191B is 13356, while on the Apple M1 it is 7412 (approximately 45% slower). Passmark's CPU Benchmarks show similar multi-core benchmarks (27325 vs 15131; approximately 45% slower). Unless, my percentage estimations are mistaken....
Awesome video! Love your channel, and the videos you make!
I ordered purple, 512 GB, 8 Core GPU, 16 GB RAM. I think it will be my main computer for four or five years. :)
purple looks really good imo
5 years with 512gb?
@@florider_hd My current PC has 512 GB as well with about 160 GB free after exactly three years. So 256 GB wasn't an option for me. If 512 GB will not be enough, I'd buy an external SSD though, the "official" upgrades are way too expensive in my opinion.
The review I’ve been looking for! Subscribed.
When someone’s computer has 8x the ram compared to you actual device storage:
Sometimes you need the RAM. I used to have a HP Dual CPU workstation with half a Terabyte of Ram, and for some of my 4 billion polygon renders, it still wasn't really enough.
@@10p6 Interesting. I never knew what benefits/use cases all that ram would have, now the 1.5 terabytes of ram on the Mac Pro doesn’t sound as ridiculous. It’s still expensive though lol
One of my best friends is a programmer who exclusively uses MacOS. He says he's not upgrading until they offer 128 gigs of ECC RAM in their desktop (over the 64 in his iMac Pro) and I don't blame him.
@@dial2616 Yeah makes sense. Personally, I have 16 gb on my 15 MacBook Pro, if not only because that was the standard (I think? It’s a 2016). But I love it, I can’t imagine only having 8. It would be so limiting. But if I’m going to upgrade, I would consider at least getting 32. I don’t really do heavy stuff on my MacBook, but maybe I will down the line. I’m not sure
@@halami2149 MacOS is notoriously memory intensive, so having more is always better. Unfortunately, it looks like having more RAM also doubles the swapfile (for paging purposes) meaning that it could potentially decrease SSD lifespan even further.
Could you provide a link for the 48TB Raid you use? Thanks for the great info.
Have had my M1 Mac Mini for 6 months and edit in FCP every week. Have never had the audio issue.
I have issues with Airplay 2 audio to my ethernet wired speaker from an m1 mac mini; very annoying but the machine is glorious!
@Zain Uddin audio isn't rendered through a gpu
Yes it’s and issue and relaunching is so quick I don’t even care because it edits so much faster than my fully loaded 2020 iMac 5k 27inch.
Me: that's still more expensive then my full setup (5 times more)
What are you running
Out of curiosity, which version of Big Sur were you running when you were editing the video? Apparently, according to a MacRumors forum thread, apple has changed something in 11.4 so that the M1 fills in as much of the available RAM as possible before starting to write to the SSD.
Same intro 3 times in a row, video could have been Half this length. Still the M1 is a beast...
Will you share how you work around the limited SSD storage instead of using a raid format? Will storing everything to external SSD work?
I'm curious to see how the mid level iMac with 16GB of RAM would do against your current beast. I'm definitely upgrading to the new iMac because my mid 2011 iMac is finally getting so slow it hurts!
Bought mine. Will be here tomorrow 🥰🥰 can’t wait 😝
I totally expected to say that you won't switch to the new iMac despite it being so good at 14:09, but woah. It's incredible that an entry level iMac can replace your Pro desktop that costs 9x more.
Good job Luke. Personally I really enjoy your vids and analysis. Fantastic comparison, thanks again
My mother walked by, saw you and said you could be the third property brother but for tech. Not sure what to say.
I’ve never noticed that but wow it’s true lol
I haven’t seen any TH-camr pick the yellow version, I just don’t understand that thing is so damn beautiful!
I’ve seen one TH-camr pick yellow and he really liked it!
meanwhile today my 2014 base Mac mini struggled with 5 tabs open in safari. that's with an SSD swap.
Get a ram swap and check activity monitor for other programs
This is so useful I’m new to iMacs and deliberating between older models and the latest at entry level I guess there is absolutely no argument.
(I think) you said blender was worsened by Rosetta. Please try your Blender bench again with the beta Universal or straight Apple silicon Blender version. I think you'll see some improvement (assuming it works, they were still missing some features a couple of weeks ago with I gave it a whirl). Thanks for this episode!
Congo 300k big fan since your 17 subs
Nice review that I really appreciated. I would like to see the M1 chip perform some 2D and 3D CAD work.
I use my m1 for CAD work in school and it performs great. Big upgrade over my aging 2013 macbook air it replaced
6:11 personnally even though not being able to hear the fans is GREAT, when editing 4k i would use something like istat to raise the fan speed and get better performance.