I SOLD my Ford Lightning EV because WINTER battery performance was a DISASTER (Range almost HALVED)
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Don't feel bad Tyler. My dad doesn't watch my videos either. He's 93 years old.
Poor poor rich guy. 😢
I think you got yourself on Fox News again...lol
I'm sure that water leak in the back seat (where your daughter sits) will close up with use!
If EVs are the future, heated seats will most likely be the way forward instead of cabin heating. It does seem quite ridiculous, but only because our entire culture has been conditioned to ambient air climate control as opposed to the Dutch oven/ hot water bottle methods used by previous generations. We'll see what happens, but it's actually not looking good for EVs, considering the power grid issues now being proven to limit the ability of EV owners to drive their vehicles.
Am I the only one who noticed water leakeage inside the Hummer when Tyler pulled out of the GM dealer? 🤔
Noticed that too and you can see it on the center console lid at 12:48 😆
thats t-tops for ya
Typical GM
Came here to leave that comment but you beat me to it!
I had to rewind and look again but there is water pooling someplace in that rig, not long before it will smell mouldy I am sure.
I see the Hummer comes with everything, including a built in shower for those really early commutes.
It's a real time saver.
I saw it peeing from the back seat as well.....worth $200,000!!!
When you are cold in the mornings you need that extra wake up. That's a £10k add-on
I ordered the sauna option.
LOL.. someone didn't close the roof hatches properly. No charge for the shower...!!!
"This feels a hundred years into the future!"
*water POURING from roof into interior*
😂😂😂😂😂
I wouldn’t go to the Moon in that.
Till EVs go over 500 miles on a charge in hot or cold and can charge up in 15-20 min it will be nothing more than a novelty to me. HFC needs more love.
And last one year and be required to buy new $60,000 batteries
EXACTLY!!!!
It’s an ideology not a practicality. You are correct but they can’t be confused with facts, their minds are made up.
Yep, I agree 100%
Going to need to wait atleast another 5 years before solid state batteries are implemented.
Only $100K and you get water leaking tops brand new straight from the dealership.. That sounds about right for GM.
Imagine you park it outside and the water freezes cracking the tops
And then GM will have about five "how to fix" bulletins to fix the problem. I have been there as a tech.
Yep
It's a built-in shower feature. No extra cost!
It's a factory option
Me watching hoovie hyping up this Hummer EV while water is leaking inside while he has no clue is Gold.
Bravo GM.
Well spotted at 12.15
Lol. I thought he was going to notice it.
Good to know that even as GM step into a bold new future, they don't forget their roots.
That's hilarious
I just came here to point that out. Glad someone else spotted it.
I love the water running in the truck at around the 12:10min mark. Hoovie is really in to a brand new vehicle with a water leak.
Hoovie thrives on mayhem! Mayhem creates content and views. And views and subscribers brings revenue!
It could be from the sunroof it happens when water gets stuck from the tops
Much like the Tesla Model X... It's a feature!!
Had a friend who bought one in North Dakota. Drove 200 miles to get it in 30 degree weather with a standard North dakota head wind to get home..
He was only making 60-80 miles per charge had to charge 3 times to get 200 miles. That's with the heater off too.
He promptly drove it back the next day and forced them to refund him everything.
Bought a different truck.
Can you imagine a car running on gas. It has a hole in the tank so you have to keep topping the tank up when it's in the garage. In cold weather the leak gets worse so you have to fill it up. But the gas station sells the wrong gas so you can't use it. At the next gas station the pump doesn't work. The third one has a 6 hour queue. The fourth station is empty. Great. Except it takes 6 hours to fill the tank. And still people insist this is the future.
Have you considered keeping it plugged in while driving? That bed would fit a fairly large generator.
Wait can't you like decat a generator?? Is that how you can mess with the EPA?
I love this comment for so many reasons lol Because doing that defeats the purpose of an EV as you're now back to using gasoline again, and a generator takes up some space reducing the functional use of the truck bed and the reason his co-buyer needs the truck. It's hilarious that the one option that might actually be beneficial, a generator, just proves you're better off with a gasoline truck to begin with lol
@@tinystar3010 Then it's a plug in hybrid?😆
Diesel Electric isn't a new idea. A gas turbine generator would be more fun.
Hahahahaha
Was disappointed that he never once mentioned how much range the hummer was using while driving it like he did with the lighting
I'm sure GM paid him to review it. He owns the Lightning. I'm sure the Hummer sucks every bit as bad but he wasn't going to tell us. Money talks.
@@javman6022 with how heavy that hummer is I'm better it can at least get 500 miles lmao
@@ireallyreallyreallylikethisimg put the Hummer battery in the F150, instant 600 mile range.
Don't feel bad, he didn't mention the shower feature either lol 😆
Cold weather range is a real issue. Glad someone finally made a video.
IMO efficient gas hybrids are where it's at
We've known about this issue for over a decade
@@aternal9491 EV cold starts are important because lots of people don't and never will have a garage or place to plug in at night. Any auto company or government that declares that they're going to sell EVs only is insane.
@@lordduo034 My old boss in 1990 INVENTED the modern EV (Caltech guys) and spent $10 million to find out range went in 1/2 in cold/hot weather. They invented also the heated thermo electrics... They assumed the heating was trivial. Later they did the calucaltion and it turned out 50% of load. LOL.
@@seaplaneguy1 That makes no sense. On a modern BEV the max you heater can consume is about 2KW for battery heating and that gets the battery toasty warm. 2kW is a fraction of a Level 2 Charger power. You need stop with the impossible lies.
I think someone needs to mention the waterfall feature at least 100 more times after this haha 😂
I heard Hoovie drowned today
This is just to moisturize the air, making a comfortable environment for you as a driver. Dry air makes you wrinkles - and nobody likes these.
nah, thats so like TFL and stuck on the side of the road for 8 hours, you can Freshen up...
GM, yah? 🙂
Hey! Doencha know, "Quality Is Job One!" Oh wait, thats Ford. My bad.
The water stream when pulling out the parkinglot was hillarious! 🤣
I had to rewatch it like 3 times to make sure that was inside and shit it was lmao
@@jake78441 same hahaha wtf
GM build quality rofl
yeah, hahaha he didn't see it :D
Lmao I was like wtf
Wayyyyy back in the day, my dad found out the hard way that he hadn't put the hatch roof in properly when going through the car wash. Thanks Hoovie for bringing back that memory. 😄
My dad just took ours through the car wash and didn’t realize there was a stick stuck in the sunroof. He got a whole shower & I still have damp rid buckets soaking up the moisture in it 😂😂
Any construction worker in a northern state that uses cordless tools could have told you this was going to happen. My batteries never last as long in winter as they do the other 3 seasons.
Any photographer will tell you one of the first rules of winter photography is to have extra batteries and keep them warm!
Hands down the best towing channel on TH-cam.
That was good lmao
Why is he not towing anything in this one?
Came here from the Alex Jones channel, I'm not disappointed.
@@NotAnonymousNo80014 You have to set a baseline before you tow. You don't watch his towing tests every week?!
He needs to collab with Seven Hunnid on TH-cam & do a high mukbang
Make sure you top off your roof fluid. And don't forget rotate the air in your tires.
You can get roof fluid at the same places that sell blinker fluid.
Yeah hoptie add some radioctivw green shit so when it burns at least make the electric car look green while killing all wild animals close.to it. 🤣
LOL right after he gushes like a schoolgirl about fit and finish😆
@@bizjetfixr8352 I was doing some maintenance on my neighbors car. I sent her to an auto parts store with a list including blinker fluid. A bit later I get a call from her. There's laughter in the background and all she says is a-hole.
😭😭🤣🤣
Tip number 1 to make it through the winter with your electric vehicle: Don't buy one.
Hehe imma stick with my 2006 Silverado forever
No!! You can make it through winter with an EV just fine!!
...so long as you park it in your garage until spring! 😂
@@jasono2139 I paid 8000 for my truck a ev is 70k I think I’m beyond convinced about keeping my truck and rebuilding her forever
@@manoflead2728 yeah... Electric trucks seem kind dumb to me. Maybe if they made a light PHEV, that might make financial sense... But the thought of towing anything anywhere more than a hundred miles away from home sounds like a nightmare of a trip.
I own a PHEV minivan and it's the best of both worlds - better on gas and a little more pricey than regular gas powered van, but MUCH LESS than an EV. Even with the tiny 16kWh battery pack, that's enough to replace half the miles we drive with electricity, but never having to worry about getting stuck at a charging station. 🤷
Nor did I have to install a level 2 charger so it wouldn't take DAYS to recharge.
its so amazing and futuristic, as water pours in from the leaking roof. how did he not notice that when he edited the video , and if he did why did he keep the footage of himself taking about how great the quality was
Contractual obligations or something...
Because this is the dumbest Automotive channel on all of TH-cam???
Pretty sure he discloses that at the beginning of every video
Because he's not a liar
It’s crazy to believe what these things have become. The fact that they put a built in shower in the interior is absolutely mind boggling.
Yeah, modern vehicles are getting insane with a price tag to match. Went back to an OBS Chevy.
@@honkhonkler7732 fukk ev's, we either boycott them or we all be stuck with them.
@@honkhonkler7732 hey you bastard stop stealing my identity!
That amount of water coming from the ceiling, WTF!!!!! :-)
top quality GM product... brand new... 100K plus... and it leaks !!! Perfect. Well done GM.
My H3 used to leak from the sunroof too. Glad to see the tradition carrying on.
Brand new hooptie! The roof is pretty awesome but I can’t believe it leaking like that. Seems like these vehicles are being rushed thru development
Its a Hummer, so keeping with military tradition it has the cheapest parts made by the lowest bidder. Could be also GM. I've never had a GM product last over 100k miles.
Well an old wise man once told me a long long time ago that if you get a vehicle with a sunroof it will leak at some point...
I don't know that it's supposed to leak on day one but you know
Loved the luxury feature, it have fancy vents and a indoor water fall, no other truck comes with that. If you check the invoice that's a 5000.00 dollar option.
The definition of GM quality in a nutshell
Love the comment, it made my day
Double in drought areas.
Nevermind all the water dripping in when you started driving the Hummer. LMAO
Dripping? That was pouring!
12:15 lol
The more GM changes, the more it remains the same. Quality is job number #37 or something like that.
I just loved it that Tyler said how amazing the fit and finish of the Hummer was and as soon as he started driving the car seemed like it had a leak from the roof 🤣
My newest vehicle is a 2004, what is this vehicle going to look like in 18 years?! :eek:
you think he notice? 🤣
@@savagegtalks5912 I don't think so lol
Atleast it water proof and designed for rain.. right??
@@Hubjeep This vehicle in 18 yrs will be a piece of plastic scrap long gone and recycled
The more videos I see like this, the more it makes me believe these EV trucks are a long way off from being feasible for daily use
Certain brand yes. Others aren’t affected like this. Poor thermal management engineering.
Until battery technology or alternative source of energy is viable for mass production, I won't buy a EV for atleast a decade
I suspect many if not most EV enthusiasts just magically assume the technology will be there when the time comes. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t. Technology is one thing, but getting it to magically just modify the laws of physics for electrical charging might just be another, but making EVs the only kind of vehicle that can be purchased new in California in 2035 is nothing but arrogance on the part of Gavin Newsom (Leftist governor there).
@@asdf51501 it's in the news that in Switzerland they don't have enough electricity and are looking at making trips with EVS for emergency use only this winter. They are also talking shutting down businesses to reduce hours and to mandate lower heating temperatures to save the energy because the EVS are killing their system.
@@garyszewc3339 Thats just an emergency plan in case there is not enough in the future.
I've had my lightning for 3 months now. My temperature in the mornings are currently n the 40's. I was looking at his dash where he was getting 1.4 mi/kwh and 1.1 mi/kwh on his way home. I thought that was low but wasn't sure what he did or didn't do to cause it to be that low.
I do park my truck in the garage. I do leave it plugged in, I do set a departure time because why wouldn't you, it warms up the cabin. And I almost never feel the need to run the heater since it stays warm on my drive. Except to defrost for a few minutes if the windy gets foggy.
I use my truck for work. I carry ladders, boxes of wire, tools and supplies for the day. Nothing huge, but I'm definitely not empty.
I have been averaging 2.0 mi/kwh for the past month.
I also have solar at home to offset my charging cost. I think people need to understand what they are buying and I've told many the truck is not for everybody. For me it's perfect. I love it every day. I'm saving $600 a month on gas. I've used the truck batteries to power a scissor lift that wasn't plugged in the night before. Power a hammer drill in a warehouse that didn't have power. I would never drive a gas powered vehicle with it's exhaust into this warehouse. I've had 1,000lbs of wood pellets in the bed with no noticeable difference in the 20 mile drive home.
If you live in a very cold temperature, be prepared. But research first before regretting a large purchase.
Real world numbers and use cases don't make for good clickbait I guess. Glad to hear your experiences have been like this, I'm looking at getting one in Utah.
2.0 mi/kwh? What was your Lightning getting in warmer temps?
@@JeffDeLamater I only got it in mid October. But i talked to a neighbor with a Mach E, he says his summer time ratings were great, but i have yet to see.
When i drive in the city and it's over 50 degrees, I will regularly see 2.4 miles/kwh But I live in the country 20 miles outside of the city so it always brings my average down when driving to job sites. I have seen 2.2 for a whole day.
Interestingly, I drove in the mountains on a steep incline. I had 18 miles to go to my destination and used 32 miles of charge. On the way back down the mountain though, I gained 10 miles of charge back so for the most part it leveled itself out.
@@SergeantMedicine It really is an awesome truck. Fun to drive. So quiet, Driving hands free on the highway is relaxing. So many smart features. I guess everybody wants to discuss the battery or try to knock electric. Where I live I'm saving a bunch on gas and I have 42 solar panels to offset the cost so I'm hardly paying anything for"fuel". And even if I wasnt saving, in my opinion the truck is about as nice a ride as you'll find.
@@cantbe03 That's interesting. I have an Ioniq 5 RWD, not AWD. I got mine in August, just before the EV tax breaks changed. Back in the summer I was getting ~4.3. When the temps dropped into the 30s and 40s, that dropped down to around 3.2mi/kwh.
I do mostly driving around town, but back in September, I drove it from Atlanta to Orlando, and back, and because the temps were somewhat mild during the trip, I didn't need to use AC or heat, just the fans, and on that trip, I got ~3.5 mi/kwh, though I'm sure that would have been lower with AC or heat.
Hoovie: "this thing feels 100 years into the future"
Me: "I guess they still haven't fixed t-tops 100 years in the future"
good to see that gm quality still coming through with the all new rear passenger washing system
🤣🤣
But Mary Barra wants you to know GM will be the most diverse, inclusive employer...never mind the crap product. Just slap a rainbow sticker on the back & enjoy the "Double virtue" pose
@@olikat8 as the car guy raves about the product? You guys will find a way to complain about anything and everything, then make it about race and gender lmao.
@@Subarusyndicate your totally missed the point, but critical thinking isn't many folks strong point.
The point? Instead of focusing on product, Mary Barra & crew are focusing on PC "Virtue signals." I don't want to spend a ton of money on garbage, and GM keeps piling on the S.
FYI...I'm a member of the Choctaw & Chickasaw Nations. So exactly what do you mean by "You guys," whitey? 😆
That's pretty typical of T-tops, but you would assume they would have improved it by now.
Performance in cold weather for EVs is kind of a known issue. I believe every EV has this problem to some degree. In the video I believe Tyler mentions he did not have the truck plugged in overnight & such. You do use EVs a little different than gas cars, so I am not too surprised of poor performance, but this did seem more than I may expect. It is better to look at 'range' in terms of % vs. miles. The miles shown are a calculation 'guess' where % is %. Batteries are pickey, they don't like to be too hot or too cold. I live in a hot climate, so that has its own set of issues for a BEV car.
The TFL guys just did a good video on range in cold weather on their EV channel. They took their F150 lightning to the artic circle. Similar points mad, but in general percentage is the thing to look at not how many miles you see.
Another person pointed out that the odometer readings between the towing video and this range video show the F150 had not really been driven that much.
Hot climate do not effect liquid cooled battery much. They do great and have nearly no problem with normal street use. It only has heat soak problems when you are driving in extreme conditions like RACING. Your comment is such vague generalised simplification it has no technical accuracy.
Just climbing up hills is enough to really wreck your range in an EV. If you're driving on generally flat roads, you are barely using any power and can go really long distances... You hit a modest hill and need to climb a hill a few hundred feet in elevation? You just lost 3 miles of range to drive 0.5 mile!
The regenerative braking will get some of that back on a down hill, but it's usually much less than half.
Does the hummer come standard with a huge roof leak or is it an optional extra?
A one hundred thousand dollar electric hummer and the roof leaks. Way to go GM, never mind improvement through evolution and just jump in with both feet, once again.
Quality control 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if he saw it during editing.....not that he does the editing
and people say tesla have bad quality lol.
Both of them are jokes an it shows we aren’t ready for ev trucks
@@mauricemotors8207 GM and Ford both of them don't really have any in house electric vehicle components because all American giants moved to offshore production. They don't even have the engineering required to make motors and batteries, what can you expect from them. Just another half assed attempt at taking a piece of Tesla pie. Next year Tesla truck releases, it will again shrink the puny sales of GM and Ford E trucks.
"Your mileage may vary" now has a whole new meaning. Hope you don't need heat!🙂
hope you dont live in the north east or canada. these ev are expensive junk.
@@fifthward1983 or Florida or Texas in the summer
@@fifthward1983 Basically the only places it works is fairly even climates where you don't get four seasons like say california but they can't support the evs they have let alone more. Colder environments or real hot environments it simply isn't practical and I don't see that changing for many many years.
@@fifthward1983 agreed, so many Canadians are getting Teslas or other EVs just to look cool and progressive. They are going to get stuck in the snow this winter if they can even get off their own street without the battery depleting LoL
Tesla batteries have a climate control system. There are teslas everywhere in the north east. I rarely see you broke down. I drive an f150. Just saying. Not sure how the new lightning is. They haven’t been out long enough
So we not gonna address that water leak with a closed roof
"what amazing fit and finish"
*Literally gives you a free shower when it rains*
If you dim the screen to about 50%, you should be able to double your range.
If you think about it, these EVs could prove fatal. Can you imagine a trip on a snowy back road in sub zero weather and this thing that initially proclaimed a far greater milage leaves you stranded? You quite literally have only a few hours to live if you do not have a cell signal.
@Thunder Life Studios and assuming you wont meet a massive pileup and waiting 4 hours in traffic for the road to clear
F'n brilliant!....
Also if you keep the volume knob at 3 or below, and don’t operate the power windows or seats unnecessarily, you can squeeze out a couple hundred more feet of range
It’s great to see how hoovie has grown since starting off as a humble towing channel.
Love the name. Please turn our water into wine.
Its' not great to see how people like you get away with blasphemy. If you were impersonating prophet Muhammad you and people like you would be banned in an instant.
With you, Jesus, all things are possible! On that note, can you send me a reliable 4WD truck capable of light to medium towing and off-roading? Doesn't have to be new or fancy. You the (Son of) Man, dawg! Amen
I still remember his towing review of the Buick Park Avenue...it had room for improvement.
Ít's great to see him expand beyond towing
It's the same issue with the European Mach-E. The range decreases by nearly or over 50%
Hoovie loves it but I think the kids in the back will hate it due to being drenched from that bad roof seal.
Total home run leaking roof and all! I’m sure the 4 wheel steering will hold up just as good as the last chevy product to have that as well.
Mine is 20 years old and still works fine.
There's tons of Quadrasteer Silverados and Sierras out there that still work just fine- just have sensor issues (like most 20 year old vehicles)
Just wait till it does act up the parts to fix them are unavailable
I wish they still made them. I would buy a Quadrasteer HD truck in a second. My X5 has four wheel steer and it’s amazing.
@@emreviewsmore3807 no, there is a reproduction company that makes them now
Did anyone else see the hummer leaking water threw the glass top when he made the right turn out of the dealership lol
yeap I had to re-play to confirm.. but it does looks like leaking water!!
@Yippee Skippy I was not shooting for perfect grammar it was a quick comment next time I will be aware grammar police are out.
Shoulda got the 1200 mi range battery, thatll get you 80 miles no problem
I know I'll be labeled as a Chevy Volt evangelizer, the Volt's backup engine really saves the day in situations like this. I was disappointed when I got my Volt and the range was about 60% of what it should get in winter time. But the engine will supplement the reduced range, so I have no more range anxiety. The electric range drop is a fact of life with EVs. Lithium Ion batteries prefer to be around 72F at all times. So your best range will be when the temperature is closest to that. Best range I ever got was a foggy day where the temperature stayed the same almost all day.
My daughter has a Volt, lives in DesMoines, Iowa. Hard winters there. Never a range problem and even Jay Leno says this is the way they should be done. He put 93,000 on a Volt.
Considering I drive too fast on the first half of my 120 mile commute, and want to use heat in the winter, I don't even bother to charge my Volt half the time in the winter. Just run it on the gas motor and thankfully that gas motor gets great mileage.
@@joshuabraman4709 dang! 120 mile commute is brutal! In the winter I will keep my Volt charged but I will use the pre-conditioning before I leave and I'll also use the mountain mode to keep 30% charge in the battery before the motor kicks on. That way the car is warm before I leave and I still have some reserve at the end of the day. Albeit my commute is only 35 miles round trip.
until it catches fire
@@AJ-zv9tn you could say the same about any other car.
Man the specs on this GM is insane...comes with its own shower ..totally nuts look at roof 12-14 12:40.
Gotta love Government Motors :D
These electric vehicle people are insane I'm convinced. So many are brainwashed to say electric cars are good no matter what no matter how bad it gets. These vehicles are trash!
@@RollingRoadEFI Government Motors, i like that lmao
Leaky ASC sunroof no doubt!
@@ttamcc.4674 It's either that or Garbage Makers.
I see that GM is still the leader at making proper T Tops that leak!
I owned a 2001 trans am ws6. Never leaked. I’m so glad I didn’t have that issue my 1985 z28 camaro leaked like a sieve even after replacing the ttops seals.
Smart move Hoovie that is not the only issues it faces. Many are running into serious glitches and we do not even know how well they will hold up as time goes by.
I own a Ford F150 Lightning and can honestly say the range is not nearly as bad as what this video shows. I get about 2 M/KWh when it’s 30 degrees out. This video shows he is getting 1.4. The fact that the range is going down so much faster than it shows means he is driving way different than normal. My range that the truck shows is always spot on, even in cold weather.
He's definitely driving it in the worst-case scenario. on a freeway at high speeds, no stop-and-go, AND in the cold, or towing a large cross-section vehicle (max wind resistance). this is starting to smell like well-poisoning by a competitor.
your check from FoMoCo is in the mail.....
@@henryjoshual1848 I'm sure it won't be as big as Tyler's "help" from that dealership or GM corp.
Towing while in the cold next, don’t let us down Hoovie!!!
OMG if he did that he's gonna need his ram on stand by!
Did anybody else notice the water coming from the Hummer's ceiling at 12:42?
At first I thought it might be condensation from the hot air in the vehicle defrosting the sunroof but im not sure
@@thatdudeca look at 12:15 clearly visible
someone didn't put the roof back on properly...
could be anything not necessarily such poor seal, they could have wash it right before he got it and not close everything all the way
@@tallll70
If you wash a car and then drive it and it comes through the tops that means you got to leak in your tops pretty clear. Did they use water hose inside of the car or on the outside of the car?
Forcing the girl to stand outside the truck to get a shot lol 😂
I would definitely purchase one of the new Hummers as long as they put small shelves on the dashboard so I can put my Lego and action figure collection !
you keep these videos up, Alex will have you on his show every week
Awesome truck! 2 hours of driving, 2 hours of charging!
A truck made for unions i think.
I was to see what the range is in real world towing on a Wyoming ranch at like -8
🤣🤣🤣🤣
U drive over 100 miles daily? Most people don't
$100,000 out the door in my area. Great truck cough cough
Number 1 recommendation from Ford. Do not drive below 40 degrees. The new update from Ford is a 20 ft battery trailer, with generator, that you tow behind.
can be said for all electric cars, the first Tesla I ever saw was actually being yanked onto a flatbed, in Canada here, it's battery had called it quits in traffic, it was -15F , the driver was actually trying to get it to a rapid charger, the windows were all iced up inside, total garbage!
This video is a a legend! The perfect example of TH-cam sponsorship.
Talking about incredible build quality under the leaking roof.....
:DDDDD HILARIOUS
Keep up hoovie!
Never even mentioned how much range he was using in the hummer not onnce unlike with the lighting
He could've just left the sunroof open a smidge by accident. No proof yet that it's a crack in the seal.
Loved seeing the water drop from the roof, when Tyler leaves the dealer. Around 12:15 or so. That's a GM premium product for you. Great job people. ..oh and: Daily driving that Ford in any serious way, is stupid. I'd take the money, absolutely no doubt. Buy a car that works in the real world.
hur dur thats a GM product.... people that act like major car mfg this or major car mfg that is so obnoxious....
Garbage Makers lol.
Say what you want you want about the Ford, at least its watertight. Lol. 100k joke.:)
The lightning makes perfect sense if you need an $75k vehicle to haul your groceries from the store 5 miles away and then brag to anyone who will listen that you don't buy gas - which to be fair is what most will use it and the much more expensive Hummer for. That is definitely the market for these.
I own a Lightning Extended Range and a lot of the complaints Hoovie has about range and power are mitigated with the larger battery and preconditioning before you leave ie. Start the truck in your app 10min before you leave as you would warm up an ICE truck. Yes the range has dropped in the cold but not by the 50% Hoovie was seeing. Last weekend road trip 400miles+ round trip I stopped once to top off charge on the way there and once top off on the way home because I'm paranoid about range but could probably have just stopped once total. It's not perfect by any means but for my driving habits it's perfect. 0-60 in 4seconds it's pretty cool too. Frunk is super handy as well.
I like how he says the Hummer's battery is twice the size of his base model Lightning's battery.
It is over twice the size, 98kWh vs 200kWh.
He also doesn't have a base model Lightning, but it does have the standard range battery pack.
@@bigtreepu234 Hoovie says that the Hummer has more range than the Lightning ER which is true by an estimated 30miles (350 vs. 320) but the Hummer's battery is twice the size of the standard Lightning and 70kWH more than the Lightning ER. A lot of extra weight, cost to charge, and time to charge the Hummer vs. the Lightning ER. He really needs a fast charger at home. My Ford Charge Station Pro at 80A @ 240v (19kWH) charges my truck up fast - makes a huge difference
We have enough things going on in the world to cause us anxiety.....I don't need to add RANGE anxiety to the list....
@@matthewklos7184 yeah, nothing says "EVs are so practical!" like having to spend $5k+ to have an electrician install a 240V, 80 AMP!! connection so you can charge your 130kWh battery in only 7 hours instead of 11 hours! 🤣
So this truck is great as long as you are on a level road on a sunny, windless day with a temperature over 60 degrees while carrying no load. Yeah, definitely worth $80,000+ (just so long as you never do any task that is remotely related to actual work done with a truck).
i love the leaking roof
100 years into the future.
@@retrodave79 it’s funny how the more videos he makes about trying to promote EV’s the worse he makes them look every time!
Those leaks will close up with use!!
@@WhiskyCardinalWes That or it will get worse lol
It's not leaking! It's moisturizing the inside! This is a quality feature!
"Total home run" apparently means "it also rains inside"
I wonder if the camera mount was keeping the window gapped open.
Imagine sending your kid to school in the winter with no coat on 🤯 My mother would yank me if I went to the mailbox without a hat lol
As an hvac contractor, I understand the energy required to keep the heat going. This truck uses a heat pump for heating right? It's insulated right? I was considering the E transit, just can't make it work
Ford seems allergic to heat pumps, and this is probably a big reason for the bad winter range. The Mach-E doesn't have one, and neither does the Lightning. Many other EVs do (even Tesla has started adding them), and it's a big help in winter.
I was going to ask if it had a heat pump. I wouldn't be able to touch an EV without a heat pump, or I'd have to retrofit a diesel parking heater. It's just too cold where I live...
@@volvo09 when it's very very cold, a heat pump does nothing. A heat pump only has a certain efficiency which means that it's only able to recover the temp from a certain percentage. Not having a heat pump doesn't have to be all that bad if your battery heater is effficient. Kia/Hyundai didn't have a heat pump in the Niro and Kona in the beginning and they still managed to be rather efficient in the winter regardless.
Just move to south Florida.....
@DerpotronGames I disagree cause the heat pump does more than just heat the cabin in the bigger Kia hyundai ev's also conditions the battery in the winter at any temperature, heat pumps really do still work deep into -40 winters in canada, it helps to keep the battery at optimum temps
@@volvo09 nonsense. Many EVs ( like earlier VWs and many others] don’t have heat pumps here in norway/sweden. They work fine if you use them right and in the best case pre-heat.
Anyone else notice Hoovie didn't mention whether the Hummer's range also drops by half in the cold?
Hoovie is chasing waterfalls
@@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 Don't go chasing waterfalls.
I live in the North East. Got a One Wheel GT electric board in April. So my recent rides in 50 degree weather were the first rides in cooler weather. The first thing I noticed was the battery level going down markedly quicker. I won't be riding in sub 30 degree temperatures and I don't rely on my One Wheel for my primary transportation mode. If I did I would be very disappointed.
🖐👍🏻thanks for steering me away from getting the Ford EV pickup! And buy your daughter a winter coat…useful in the cold!🤣
Dad doesn't even know to put a jacket on his kid. Explains a lot .
Good tip to increase the range on your F-150... make sure its a diesel!
EVs are just about OK if you have a daily 20-mile commute. I don't, and the only way I'll change is when an EV can do what my UK 2005 Mondeo 2.0TDCi diesel estate can do: 600+ miles on a full tank ( at 61 mpg, UK gallon ), with a five minute fill-up before I get another 600 miles out of it.
3.0litre gmc diesel has amazing fuel Mileage.
@@terencejay8845 Agreed.
@@terencejay8845 The Lucid Air has up to 850 mile range and can add 300 miles of range in 20 minutes at an Electrify America 350 kW charger. It's also not an ugly Mondeo.
BS
So how often does it top up your water bottle from the roof panels ??
smarshall3685 Apparently every time you make a right hand turn.
This is what ev's do in the winter. I have a Model Y that gets 40% less range in the winter. It's excellent around town but would never take it on a trip. I have my gas guzzler for that.
Same issue with the gas version too. I always lose a 1/3rd of my mileage in the winter time or towing. But yes this is the biggest limitation with lithium batteries. The technology can not be used in extreme cold or extreme hot climates and it suffers as it gets close to either extreme. Its right there in the specification for lithium ion technology. So the ev makers are not designing the thermo management systems correctly for the battery technology. This lack of proper design with there batteries could actually make it a lemon issue...?
It's called physics, it's not a design problem... and you absolutely 100% DO NOT lose 1/3 of your range on a gas engine in winter, that is a LIE
Damn. That GMC comes with a built in shower. Awesome.
If you're paying Range Rover prices it might as well leak like one
Because you're going to be living in it trying to keep it charged.
I’m sorry. American car manufacturers are still don’t get it. People need to drive the vehicles and not charging them 24 hours. After my nightmare experiences with FORD - I wouldn’t even think of getting an EV from them. And the price tags are out of normal people’s worlds! And GM? I never in my life have I seen dashboards falling apart! Bought a used 2010 Silverado 2500HD. 1st project? Clue all cracked pieces together in a truck with only 85,000 km on it. Ridiculous cheap quality.
@@holgermessner851 Yeah, the GMT900 had dashboard cracking issues like mad. The worst part is, they got rid of the GMT800 dash design where you just removed the face, popped some clips, and everything came off. In the GMT900 you have to pull out a billion different screws under god knows how many trim pieces. It's ridiculous.
@@lsswappedcessna I'm in Panama and it was ordered by the Panama Canal company originally for $30,000. No real parts supply here. I must order everything via online suppliers, shipping it to Miami and from there to Panama because there isn't a government mail company in Panama you can trust. And absolutely no house delivery at all. So plastic glue will be my main tool so far. When I got the truck, I looked at the dashboard and was like WTF! In the End, all plastic parts in the truck worse than a made in China car! I was told from Chevy in Panama replacement would be the same quality. Next will be a carpet or so. No plastic cover someone told me.
The hummer even has a waterfall inside. Awesome!
The roof's waterfall is a referrnce for the devrlopment methodology they still use at General Motors.
Bro this is literally the case with ANY electric vehicle. Everyone knows the battery tech needs more work. I can’t fathom how you can spend so much money without doing 5 minutes of research on the current technology.
More money than brains in this video
In addition, during cold weather periods the existing EV Charging Stations do not function either.
Imagine having this as a work truck and having to tow a dump trailer for 50 miles in winter. This is definitely a pass for me especially since the heavy price increase.
95% of lightning owners will never tow a thing. These are target parking lot queens like most trucks.
@@whosyourdaddy00 Sorry but then why buy a truck? Get a SUV or Sedan. Trucks are meant for work and moving things.
I hate the assumption that if you aren't using 100% of the truck's capabilities every day then you shouldn't get one. Yeah I don't haul, tow, or jump my Raptor every day, but I do it frequently enough to justify the purchase.
Yes it's sad what trucks have turned into. They used to be for the working man and the price reflected it. They were literally made for agriculture and industry. Now you have these pointless $100k+ trucks.
I'm with you. I just had to tow a heavy dual axel trailer today. It had almost 7,000 lbs of flooring on it. We went over a pass in 10° f snowing and cold. It was 70 miles one way. The house does have one plug-in in full time use with a 3-way loaded. It's a cabin way out in the mountains. So I couldn't plug it in and I also couldn't make it back on a single charge. If I had this ridiculous lighting I'd be screwed. Not to mention extra miles I'd drive to take my workers to the nearest town to eat back to worksite and then home again. This is a 12 hour day. So unless I pay an extra $4,000.00 for the power up grade unit from Ford then pay an electrician to in stall it, there would be no way it would charge enough in the 12 hours before I had to go again. Also if I had to do other running around when I got back or before I had to go back and do the whole trip over again. Theses things are absolutely ridiculous.
12:41 ceiling leaking water on a $100,000+ vehicle is insane. Stay away from GM vehicles like the plague.
Ford recommends using steering wheel heat when it's cold, then stops building Lightnings with steering wheel heat.
I feel your pain.. My gas powered 2005 Pontiac usually gets around 425 miles per tank. I got 421 miles in the cold. Plus it took me a whopping 3 minutes to refill it will gas.
My god. Why do we suffer like this?
@@lesterparker1594 Yes.. Shame we cant be part of the privileged EV drivers. Unfortunately we are barbarians still using fossil fuels.
@@pscurti350 at this point, I’m saying I’ll never buy an EV. Maybe in 20 years the technology and batteries will catch up. But for now there’s no way
@@lesterparker1594 I wouldn't be caught dead driving or riding in a battery powered car. I don't even like battery powered golf carts! Btw....still running that Ranger? How's it holding up?
@@northdakotaham1752 just hit 25k miles and it’s better than ever. Except for some fool dinging my door at Walmart. Had to buy a dent removal kit to fix it. But the truck has been awesome.
12:40 - I love how in ULTRA NEW over 100k, state of the art electric truck T top is leaking like in some 30y old 3gen F body. GM quality at it FINEST
As someone who owns a plugin hybrid, the issue in the cold doesn't seem to be the battery. It's how much heat pulls out of the battery. I could be wrong though. You can just sit parked with the heat on and the battery will drain.
So you're saying that the government pushing companies to make EVs without the market or technology doesn't eliminate the downsides of the current technology level? Tech is there, battery tech is not.
Since it's so heavy it's still technically going to be a gas guzzler because it will use a lot of electricity to move it but at least it comes with a built-in shower
Pity the poor fool college girl who gets flattened driving her fuel efficient Honda when she gets ran over by a 9000 pound EV which instantly explodes burning everything within 40 feet to a crisp and requiring 5000 gallons of water and four hours to extinguish. The insurance premium on EVs should be about $12k a year to cover the potential damages.
@@northdakotaham1752 HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@northdakotaham1752 I agree they are way more dangerous than a regular vehicle.
@@northdakotaham1752 so true
And will eat tires
It was sitting at -20 degrees F this morning here in Minnesota. I can only imagine what the range would have been for me.
Yep. I'm your neighbor to the east in northern Wisconsin. Only 9° today but I have left my old Ford out in -25° a couple time. It doesn't much like starting but it will and it doesn't effect the mileage. Except for leaving it running when I go out for a burger and a beer.
Same here buddy. Just north of you in Canada it was -30C or -22F. The old 5.0L was not a happy camper today. Lol
Better than his, this is complete bullshit, it wasn’t even cold
Wisconsin here as well, when he said 30 degrees was cold I couldn't help but laugh at him... 30 in winter is warm for here lol. It has yet to get super cold here.
@@cody6009 he's in Kansas, it gets just as cold there.
The funny thing is thats not even cold, honestly I really wouldn't call it cold till its like -20°C (-4°F).
Typical, Hoovie did everything possible to set the F150 up to fail. No towing package. Small battery. No preconditioning
So excited to see another world famous Hoovies towing test
I'm not reading through 150+ comments to see if someone has pointed this out but... great fit and finish on a brand new hummer? With a ROOF LEAK?!?
Funny thing is you only needed to read like 2 comments, because every one of them is either "lol towing" or "leaky roof" posts.
@@TheRealAlpha2 Yeah, you're right... Now that there are currently 676 comments. At the time I commented there were only 152 and those posts hadn't gotten upvotes yet.
Oh don't mind that! Those leaks will close up with use!!
Free water! Which other manufacturer delivers their cars with free water from above? Only Government Motors!
Its GMs new "Singing in the Rain" option.
Not many of us have over $100K to experiment with an unproven vehicle. Hoovies Garage is providing an extremely valuable service with the excellent videos.
... not even close bud. Watch Transport Evolved's videos of their F150
Try over $300 k for the hummer , 😣 😢
@@toyotaprius79 Hoovies still produces good videos. Like it or not, EVs have a very long way to go.
All baloney and click bait. Fine entertainment but not journalism.
@@rcole3838 they do have a long way to go but why make the transition slower by spreading misleading information bashing EVs. There’s enough legitimate grounds for criticism without clickbait and misinformation
I view EV's like Golf Carts, they're fun, useful to make short trips around the park or community, but you don't take them to Walmart or go any significant distances.
Hahaha! 12:40 I love the water coming from the roof!
😆 🤣
it's like a miniature waterfall
"the fit and finish on this hummer is so nice"
*roof immediately starts leaking inside*
😂
I was at a conference in the 90s, and got to test drive the GM EV1. Sales rep said the range was equal to the temp in F. So at 90F, you go 90 miles. 60F, 60m. 40F, 40m. And so on.
Nothing's changed.
Actually that’s not how these things work. You don’t get 0m at 0F.
1.5 mi/kWh at 4:33. Hmm. I tend to see 2.4 to 2.8 mi/kWh in the first 1100+ miles I've driven my F-150 Lightning. I'm going to test towing with my 14,000 lb. equipment trailed and see what I get.
To save battery power just have a coal heater in the car just don't forget to put the exhaust out of the car
Funnily enough some people do almost exactly that, they fit a diesel or gasoline aux heater with a tank in the boot so they can turn off the heater in the car and extend range.
even better, buy a regular F150 and put the Lightning on a trailer and then you can use the heater all you want!
@@muskokamike127 even better buy anything but a Ford
@@rmitchell1 oh for sure! I got caught with the 5.4L 3V and never again.
@@muskokamike127 ouch. Can’t say GM is any better. I got caught with the 5.3 in a 2020 trailboss and the engine blew up at 8k miles. Traded it for a new ranger and I’ve been much happier.
That Hummer must be made out of an old refrigerator.
And the water dispenser still works.
Anyone seeing like EVs gonna collapse? It is so bad with not enough range and charging stations and still everyone is pushing it like it's the solution!
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