@@chuckschillingvideos in my real world I see people use chains, ropes, etc… whatever they have available. Hoovie did a real world tow whether he likes it or not.
@@chuckschillingvideos as a 3rd generation farmer I'd say, no, no they don't. We have dozens of hitches of drop sizes and we just grab the first one we can find, put it on the truck, "Is it going to drag? Is it going to bottom out?" "No, then it's good." The real world doesn't go up to a table/wall full of their different hitches and figure out which one will be optimal for the weight and load they are going to tow.
Well look on the bright side, you went viral and grew the channel. Plus you stood up and addressed the hysteria it created to set the record straight. That’s class.
@Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield Look, I appreciate the effort, but I feel like you're wasting time with people who are aren't interested in a balanced view, but only in the negatives of something so they can apply that "fact" to an _entire_ segment that they hate, who are probably most of Hoovie's viewers tbh.
@@johnshefferly8383 exactly, I just don't understand what the problem is here. The rich politicians want to ban the gasoline powered tools we rely on every day to make a living. That crazy guy was using Hoovie's video as proof that we still need gas engines. He is wrong about the details but correct about EV's not being up to the job.
I was watching an English Reviewer trying different loads on a Motorway at 70 mph. He lost (Approx) 7% of his SUV's range simply by putting ski racks and a pair of Snow Skis on it. That was actually about the same as he lost putting 4 other passengers in it. Aerodynamics is really important to EV's. He scaled it up, and a Caravan ended up taking about 60% of it's range.
My favorite part of his channel is how he tests all vehicle's towing capabilities. Whether it's Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Aston Martin, or Ford, he tows them all. You are the Man Hoovie!
Yeah. I really liked the one where he put the 5th wheel on the Ferrari 308GT and hauled that 50 foot Airstream across the Donner Pass almost as much as when he used the Bugatti Veyron to pull the Winnebago out of the muddy ditch.
Hoovies Infowars is my favorite trailer towing test channel. Looking forward to Tyler's new segment with Alex where they drive electric cars looking for lizard human hybrids
I hear they can be found at the Bilderbergers Conference. Maybe they can stop off at one of the FEMA Death Camps and visit the secret Russian Troops. Lol
You and i have different definitions of broken when it comes to cars. There is a 0-100 difference between cars that needs body shop and specialized equipment to fix and ones that have an oil leak that is perpetual for some cars.
@@bravobrk Oh I 100% agree. I drove a 1993 Subaru for 10 years that I paid $350 for and now I drive a 1993 Subaru with more miles but less rust that I paid $500 for. When I say broken I just mean "have things that should be fixed" hahaha.
@@gregjarvis1232 Of course HE doesn't fix them. I just like a lot of the cars. Don't you people have anything better to do than be negative? My favorite channel is BoostedBoiz. I live The Skid Factory. I watch a ton of stuff. I even watch The Wizard occasionally, but basically just his Ferrari videos. Sheesh.
You handled this incredibly well while staying kind and moderate. Thanks for the nuance Hoovie. I wouldn't get that from a lot of people if they were in your shoes.
Agreed! I sub to this channel because he covers ALL aspects of something and is honest about actual ownership. His review was honest and affirmed all the information I had already attained via independent research. EV's have poop range for towing. (Don't tell me I'm going to go 20mph under the speed limit while towing, it's not going to happen.) Infowars guy was CLEARLY an idiot, not knowing what he was talking about or clearly lying. I have 3 cars. I may replace my Focus RS with an EV. I may replace my SUV with a hybrid, but I probably won't replace my truck ever with an EV... This doesn't mean I'm against them, but just like was stated in the video, the cons are too far negative for the jobs I'm demanding of the vehicle. AND 1 thing not stated ever in EV reviews is you absolutely need a lvl 2 charger installed at your home location if you plan to drive an EV daily. That's an additional ~$1000 cost...
You do a great job on your channel. Now, let's get dwn to the real topic both seen & hidden. This video was a TOTAL CYA deal. Trying to undo the massive bad PR damage that Jones created from thin air, using selected facts, ( as do ALL MAIN STREAM MEDIA outlets, daily, to lie to viewers). So now Hoov has to try to do a wrap of car review video so as to try to appease the Ford pple from totally ruining his present and future relationship with the largest truck manufacturer on US soil. It's rather comical to see how a guy that nobody including Hoov likes (Jones) when he 8s doing EXACTLY what MSM does daily to viewers by lying & twisting facts to suit there narrative. Like when WhiteHouse press secretary JKP lied 9 ways from Sunday about how Joe's gaffe of a tragic death of a woman in congress a month previous, was met by Our President asking where she is in the crowd during his speech. That part was not funny. What was funny was the circular loop of lies the WhiteHouse told to try to defend Joe Bidens inability to remember when pple died & how they can no longer be present for his press brief or speeches. Anyway, Hoov had to try to smooth this all over to avoid a future relationship with Ford, & although Ford Executives would never act mad about this PR nightmare, even Hoov had to ADMIT he uses clicking titles to lure in viewers & subs. So this whole thing was a TOTAL Public relations disaster for Hoov, Ford, & CLIMATE Change/Global Warming activist. & Hoov doing everything possible to distance himself from his own content by pointing out small nuggets of misrepresented info from his vid to Jones show. When we see the exact same things DAILY from our own Main Stream Media & WhiteHouse, & are just supposed to accept it as fact, when they present lies & twisted dialog as real reporting. So, in closing, for once, maybe...just maybe... the Liberal Left got a dose of there own medicine. Clearly this scared Hoov. Not cuz he did anything wrong. But because Liberal public relations was given to them what they believe they give to the STUPID AMERICAN PPLE every day. & now nobody likes it. & this could cost pple something do to the damage believed to be done to everyone involved. Welcome Liberal Pple, to the world of 74 million voters. Now ya get to understand how they feel when you lie to them daily on TV, youtube, & the internet in general. Nice review BTW, Hoov. Especially pointing out the seat materials on the Ford EV F150. Man, this really scared ya, looking forward into your own future. Well... lesson learned son. U want clicks, so ya use titles to get um. & now no free trucks for you anymore from Ford. Unless your awesome review in this video got you off the hook.. Don't worry. Americans have short memories. & politicians know this. Just gotta deny deny deny, till the next distraction comes along. Just think if TH-cam shut off your channel like they have thousands of others who accidentally did exactly what you did..?? Got the wrong pple upset at you. Those CLIMATE pple & Others will crush guys like yourself if you hadn't done all the hiding & fainting to try so hard to show how bad you act like you feel. Hopefully U appeased everyone and u get to keep the revenue from all those great clicks & new subs you got out if it. Cuz really, you win big time on this deal.. Nice Job... especially since it Clearly wasn't your intention.. 😆
This would have been a great opportunity to plug in some commentary about the Right to Repair movement! This is a real push in the automotive community and the more coverage is given, the more it can move forward! There's a few open source projects for replacement control units for various modules, and slowly but surely there are more and more for other electronics! Hoopties will only be a thing of the past if we let the big players get away with their non-repair-friendly methodology!
You already have that right; the thing is that your rights must be exercised. You and many other people subscribe to the idea that others will exercise your rights for you, but the reality is that you must assert your rights and stick by them. If you want to know what your rights are, look at what the enemy is labeling as "sovereign citizen" and mocking - they're pushing that propaganda to keep you a slave to them. For example, each state DMV is operating a massive fraud, because federal statutes define MOTOR VEHICLES as "a carriage...used for commercial purposes" in 18 U.S. Code § 31 (6). And yes, this applies in EVERY STATE because each state is subject to the supremacy clause of the Constitution for the United States...so it doesn't matter how states define "MOTOR VEHICLE" if it is in conflict with the federal statute, which requires "commercial use" to be a requirement. The other big scam is tricking you into believing that your car or truck is "equipment", thus subject to registration. Equipment is something used for commercial purposes. For most people, who just use their cars/trucks for traveling in private (i.e. you are not being paid to transport goods or passengers), they are CONSUMER GOODS (durable goods) which are not subject to registration. See UCC § 9-102 (23).
As long as there are cars and trucks they’ll always be someone, somewhere wanting to make it go faster, go stronger or go longer. Never worry Hoopties will always be here in one form or another.
Man I honestly subscribed because you pointed out the video showing how to get the max mileage driving conservatively. It shows that you are an honest reviewer and not just someone in it for the followers.
Honestly, if you expect shows like that to tell anything remotely true, you'll be disappointed. Why? Because there's no consequences for lying. In fact, with how things are, they're actually rewarded for straight up lying.
Those viewers don't verify anything they hear. Why would they be lied to? And if they were lied to, it wasn't that bad. And if it was that bad, it wasn't the host's fault. And if it was the host's fault, it doesn't matter anyway because their ENEMIES are lying anyway.
The Alex Jones and Tyler Hoover crossover universe is absolutely insane and I'm here for it Edit - Alex Jones is a crazy person and I have no respect for him. It doesn't mean this crossover is ridiculous and hilarious. Poor Hoovie has to deal with the crazies now lol
@@ObesePuppies Alex Jones already started with Alernative facts like the model T having more power of the Lichtning only being able to drive 20MPH, of course both are lies
@@ObesePuppies Or we just don't bash people in general? Everyone knows that Alex Jones spins conspiracies so why keep mentioning him or bashing him for doing what he does? Just sayin'.
No, it doesn't, because he threw a fit because two groups he didn't like pointed out the catastrophic consequences of the coming EV only law. They were 100 percent right that this would hurt people, but Hoovie cries and calls it "political." Yeah, when you have a law outlawing something that is going to hurt people, it's going to be "political." But screw all the people who actually work for a living--rich Hoovie has lefty friends who won't like that he has exposed a major evil in a lefty law, so he has to cry. Alex Jones is a kook, but the whining about The Wrong Sort covering him accurately was pathetic.
He complains about a future without hoopties while fanboying all over the EVs! I detest the mandates, they are purely political and definitely not practical. Tyler mentions the “infrastructure bill” fixing the charging station dilemma, and it flat ass won’t. That is a pork filled bill meant to pay back political allies just like Solindra and the solar farce BS. We need push back against government involvement in EVs! Let the free market decide!
OK so 73 is the new 25mph. So that means we can only to 10 around town as that was the old 30mph and the old 50mph is now 17. I wonder how many people would be cussing me out for driving these new speeds Infowars are implying. The guy's an idiot.
Tell it like it is. I appreciate the honesty. I do not feel i will buy a new car in next 10 years, gas or electric.. price is outrageous on both. Especially if a vehicle doesnt meet fuctional requirements. Drive across Montana 20 below zero in the dark.
TFL Truck also towed identical trailers behind a Lightning and a GMC Sierra (gas), and had very similar results with the Lightning ravenously devouring range, and had to be recharged after 50 miles. The GMC went round trip and only used a few gallons of fuel. So your towing experience is not unusual for this truck.
What are you Alex Jones? I went and watched the video and they got 89 miles of range. Now that is 1/3 of the total range but I'm tired of people literally just making stuff up.
If I remember rightly, he did 30 miles each direction, that is 60miles, and decided he couldn’t do another return trip which presumably would total 120 miles. That is, he said he couldn’t do 120 miles which seems to roughly align with TFL trucks. Some people just can’t handle any suggestion that EVs aren’t everything to everyone every time yet. The fact remains that you can’t tow any useable distance for many people.
I appreciate Hoovie being able to stay "in the middle" and appreciating EVs for what they are and what they give, and criticizing them where they do fall short.
Of course he’s going to be in the middle. Look at what happens when someone picks a side. You get booted off of TH-cam for dumb conspiracy theories that only the right believe or, if you’re left, the right hypocritically tries to “cancel” you. The only right option when doing a video like this is to remain neutral and not lose any of your fan base.
Maybe he meant to say mpg, not mph? Since the lightning is rated at 61mpg highway, and it loses about 2.5× to 3× the range when towing, bringing it to roughly 20-24mpg... maybe?
You gave an honest review. The truck is very limited by range. There is no question. There is also no question that it has incredible torque. Keep up what youre doing
@@sussolus I mean, if you have a youtube channel with millions of followers/views and are worried about someone commenting on your content, you should probably find a different career.
People already mod EVs in their garage. And built them from scratch in college. It isn't going away, it just takes a different skillset than working on carburetors etc.
Hoovie mis-informing...."it was a really heavy load"....it basically weighed similar to an empty Uhaul trailer....lol "Big, massive, comfortable riding TRUCK." (You just can't USE it as a truck....HAHAHAHAHA)
@@trailrunnah8886 Alex CIA Jones's job is to make truth seekers look crazy, collect info on said truth seekers, to protect the country in my name and sell bone broth & super viral male pills.
Every lightning truck review I've seen appeared to be honest to me; showing pros & cons. Do you have links showing all of these dishonest reviews you speak of?
Yet, here he is, doing damage control. Saying his real world experience, was flawed? And that going dangerously slow on the highway, is more "realistic"?? Referencing JR Garage's video, going 50 in a 70 zone? Seems like Ford got to, and paid off Hoovie to say nice things.
Exactly. This EV truck could be perfect for one person and terrible for another and yet people want to define it as one thing for everyone which is silly. It's almost like they are doing that for clicks and views implying that clicks and views somehow get them more money which is high on their priority list.
@@therealnynetynyne360 Sooo would that mean that all other evs would also do the same thing? Also non EV vehicles have prices astronomicaly high. Sky high prices are because of unscrupulus dealers.
And Alex Jones did not. He just straight up started making shit up. "Look, it can't even go over 25 mph!" As Hoovie looks down at the speedometer and it says 73mph. I'm not even sure he was watching the same video.
@@DownerJIH1981 Alex Jones is a well known grifter that plays on the stupidity of gullible people. Anyone that believes a word that guy says is beyond help. I know you are aware of that…. Just throwing it out there for anyone that’s been living under a rock the last couple years.
Well, he told the truth about his own single user experience on a very popular TH-cam channel in a country where less than half of the population has gone to college, so.....
Don't feel bad. I know a guy who bought one in North Dakota. Wasn't even particularly cold at 20F. He had to stop and charge multiple times to get it home 200 miles. Had to run with the heat off. He was only getting 65 miles between charges. He returned it. The next day. Bought a truck with a V8. The Ford lightning is garbage, and in the wrong situation, North Dakota winter driving, it could be a death trap.
They did this exact same test on The Fast Lane Trucks and found the exact same results a few months back. Interesting that Hoovie got much more traction with it...
True. But many trucks and suvs are not used as workhorses or off road, they are bought for 'lifestyle'. So while people want inappropriate vehicles just based on looks they need options that are appropriately powered. Unborn babies shouldn't have soot particles in them (new studies confirm this is now the case) just for peoples insecurities and fashion sense.
Standardize the batteries and swap them out instead of charging on the vehicle. Solves both charge speed and battery longevity. No one cares how long paper money lasts because banks replace the old bills with new ones.
@@ctrlaltdebug battery swapping has its own set of trade offs, but NIO does do swapping. The need to replace (second use & recycle) batteries is also often overblown. Degradation is much less of a problem than is made out to be. Truth is, inductive charging can be added to roads such a that a tiny fraction of them could boost range while driving enough so to nEVer need to stop to charge. A few strategically placed charging lanes could eliminate the need to stop and charge, but humans still likely need to take a brake while driving many hours.
Yea...the city municipality I work for just ordered 100 of these Ford Lightnings.....can't wait to see how they perform on a 9 hour work day, let alone 16+ hours during times of trouble.....gonna be a hoot!!!
Those people want a truck for what it can do, not what it does do. IMO ford FKd up hard only offering a tiny 100kwh pack when my sedan is comfortable with a 77, you don’t put a 13 gallon tank on a 400hp engine. The Silverado has a 200+kwh pack and has been shown to tow a 6’ high 8’ wide 25’ long trailer loaded over three tons to go 220 miles on the freeway which doubles ford and is equivalent or outperforms the 3.5 ecoboost with the standard 23 gallon tank.
Yep. Companies NEED honest, real world, feedback. And it can't get any better than this. The idiots that use this type of feedback for their political spin agenda are just trolls, and should be ignored.
@@denydefendepose They won't ever get much better. There are physical and chemical limitations that simply won't allow it. Thinking we can transition 100% to electrical vehicles is pure idiocy.
I live in Illinois and several times a year I drive to either MO, NY, GA, NE, CO, or UT. On these trips I drive 300-600 miles per day, often with a very fully loaded SUV. Until they develop a vehicle with at least a 600 mile range, I’m never getting an EV.
@@ryandriscoll1672 you might have made that argument if he said it once. But he said it multiple times, and iirc he even read it from the script at one point
He was reacting to a “news” article not the footage. “That’s almost 90 miles of range in 30 miles” clearly what he was referring to no script only an article
The solution is obvious guys. Buy a diesel generator and keep it in the back of the truck (or trailer it if you jeed the space). Whenever you stop to do a job, fire up the generator and charge your car with it. Boom! Problem solved!
You showed how a normal person would do some towing with a truck. Important for us casual guys who might not tow often, but sometimes have to hook up a trailer and get your kids hooptie on the side of the road. Or if you need to trailer up and get some heavy trash to the local dump.
I'm very sure that a Lightning EV can haul heavy trash to the local dump with NO PROBLEM. What affects all EVs, not just this one, and is what happened to Tyler, is carrying a fairly heavy load at high freeway speeds over a relatively long distance. Emphasis on the high speed (75+ mph) and longer distance. In a few years, the Lightning EV will probably cost less and have a higher-capacity battery option. Not everybody should be the first adopter of a first-generation electric truck.
best towing review ever. Please keep making YOUR videos; if other people/personalities choose to misunderstand or misrepresent them, that's on them. If the car companies don't like that your video doesn't fit with their marketing, they can make a better car or stop lying in their marketing. Either way, your following here is the result of your blend of fun mixed with showing the actual reality of owning these various cars.
Nothing wrong with battery guzzlers or gas guzzlers. What is wrong is government mandating to get rid of one. Build both and let the buyer choose. (just like water heaters)
All the man did was tell us what his personal experience was. He said that towing the empty aluminum trailer, what was it... something like 25-30 miles and it took 50+ miles of battery power to do it. And then he had to charge up the battery to make it back home with a small, lightweight, 1930s pickup truck. When he got home the battery had a very low remaining charge. And this all happened in the Topeka, Kansas area, which is about as flat as a kitchen table. Virtually no hills to climb. If somebody says that he woke up in the morning and it appeared to him that the sun was coming up in the east, he's just telling us what his personal eyeballs saw. What's the problem with all these people.?
@ripvanracer EVs won't replace ICE cars if EVs haven't progressed enough by the time any "mandate" is supposed to take effect. Personal transportation is too important in this country that there would be immense pushback and any "mandate" would certainly be replealed. To suggest EVs will be forced upon everybody only adds fuel to the conspiracy dumpster fire.
I'm pretty sure he meant over 20 miles of range, it is Alex Jones so yes some of it will be exaggerated either way I don't see electric being the future.
Honestly the hitch you used makes it more realistic, a ordinary person isn't going shopping for a hitch that levels the trailer, they just need a hitch. People apparently hate hearing the truth about these trucks..
Exactly. I’d love to see him use a drop hitch because there’s no way you can convince me under same testing conditions it’s making enough difference to be worth noting on an aluminum flat bed trailer. I’m not pulling my enclosed trailer down the highway at 50mph either. That’s ludacris.
This is an opportunity for Tyler to re-do his initial video, but with the Ford towing profile optimized for it that the EV rep mentioned and the drop hitch for a level load. Let's see how much of a difference it really makes!
@@ironymatt - I agree, and a perfect opportunity for Ford as well to show the pros and cons and if it works show people good easy to follow practice to maximize fuel efficiency while towing with an internal combustion truck, who doesn’t like to save money on gas.
Sorry comrade-you WILL drive a very impractible electric vehicle, you WILL pay much more exorbitant rates for the electricity to charge said vehicle, and you WILL like it!
there is an interesting company working on electric trailers for this kind of use case, the trailer has a battery built into it such that the trailer can supply some amount of a range boost to the pick up truck when towing. It is a really interesting idea, idk if it will work, I don't tow much, but glad people are looking into trying to solve this problem.
Stay strong, Hoovie. You have made something very informative. And you are genuine and humble. Those are the qualities that make a career, not just a video. Thank you!
It does not help the Conservative cause by spreading false information without checking. It is obvious Breitbard did not watch or understand the original video. Hoovies video says that there is lots of torque and he travels at 60 mph. This is the type of misleading lies that Liberals are expert at..
@@mikez6683 I've been saying this to everyone, with the size, weight and range we just aren't fully ready to ban gas yet, we must find a much more efficient way to store energy.
@@gman4141007 We dont ban anything, if the product is good enough it will phase out the old. The government forcing these things on us is just rediculous.
@@gman4141007 well we got what, 10-15 years before the bans kick in? Trust me, technology has this. In the past 10 years we've made massive (over 10x) battery capacity improvements, in another 10 years? Wouldn't be surprised to see even more as more money is put into it. Give nerds actual research money, and technology sores forwards.
And imagine ALL vehicles doing the same, including police, ambulances, fire trucks, tractor trailers, not to mention emergency back up generators, heavy equipment Earth movers, ships, planes, etc...
I love how at 9:11 in this video Alex is literally saying “he can’t get it above 25mph” while Hoovie turns the camera in the video and you can see 75mph on the display. 😂😂😂
@@IronmanV5 the sandy hook parents that have been trying to arrest Alex for how many years? Because why? He made a shitty comment about how some parents were “overdramatizing for the cameras”? He’s been proven right about 80% of the time that’s more than I can say about a lot of public figures. Alex’s point was that ev technology and batteries aren’t technology advanced enough for mass manufacturing and a forced switch from gas to electric. You’d notice how there isn’t a lot of super chargers in the world. The power grid can’t handle it. California has been experiencing rolling blackouts even though we have one of the largest solar and wind farms in the nation. Facts are facts man doesn’t matter how you feel.
@@IronmanV5 as true as that is he doesn't tell as many lies as politicians even current ones in the White House and that Alex weirdo has also been right about a lot of stuff that's why he has the following he does he knows it went over 25 miles an hour he's the ultimate troll
It's amazing that people still want to put their political spin on crap when the source material is already factual enough that it'll get their point across without any spin necessary!!!
TFL Truck did a similar test with an RV trailer side by side with a Sierra Denali V8 and another identical trailer. They were in Colorado and spent a fair amount if time descending hills. They only managed 89 miles before the truck went into power saving mode. He had to limp to a charging station and plug in. Meanwhile the Denali turned around and went back to the starting point and got most of the way back before the Ford recharged enough to head back. It could have just as easily been their video that set all of this in motion.
i get the engineers at ford are mad at you for the way u had your to truck setup, but even if you did all those things wrong in an ICE engine, efficiency would not drop that severely, im sure an old 04 cummins diesel with or even 5.7 hemi wouldnt notice such heavy losses.
My cousin is a master mechanic and loves Ford. He drove his lightning from Indiana to Florida and said it was the worst trip of his life. He was so stressed out trying to make it to each charge station. Half the time he had to travel with his hazards on and drive 45 m.p.h.!!
Was he towing with the lightning, to drive so slow and worried to make it? or just the charging that far apart? ABetterRoutePlanner says a Rivian (similar) should make it ok, 3-4hrs total charging over 1200 miles (about every 2-3hrs/150-200miles, that's about right), 17hrs driving, $122. 20% delay for charging. No speed restrictions. CCS fast chargers are not at the same level as Tesla superchargers, yet, hope the IRA bill can help push that.
@@adamlewis3145 What was so stressful? I don't understand, even with the small battery there are plenty of chargers to make that route without a lot of stress.
@@tazeat the whole point of the video is that Ford is lying about how far it can go on a charge. My comment was backing up, with a true story, that their clearly is an issue with how far it can actually travel, in the real world.... on an actual trip. ( I can spend 5 seconds to Google the numbers too: )
In a world full of lies and overall dishonesty, Tyler told the honest truth and that is a refreshing thing for the majority of people(except for the ones who cannot handle the truth as they are so accustomed to being lied to). Please don’t ever stop or change what you’re doing Hoovie, we love the content you bring us because it doesn’t come with a hidden agenda~
That's true. He is one of them though, there is no need to say it's a "war with conservatives". Jones clearly got a mixed bag of info from someone who doesn't even know the difference between Hoovie and TF mixing it all up. "Get me all the negative stuff about this on the youtoobs!" ... but why fixate on that, just set it straight and laugh about it. As a side note, I actually clicked the video just to unsub when I saw the divisive title, only to find out that I consistently get his notifications without being subbed, instead of the channels I actually sub to... don't have to go very far to find that dishonesty and lies with this company.
@@nameless-og 100% correct. What is Tyler scared of? A so-called "conservative" website having an opinion about his video? And I'm not talking about AJ, he just likes hearing himself talk.
Its real easy to see what Tyler is scared of - being cast as a partisan by either side, reducing his audience, and his future projects. Conservative sites cast him as 'telling the truth about how bad EVs are' and some who are disgusted by people like Alex Jones decide no longer to watch his videos (or buy his merchandise). Then, he has to 'correct' the record, and several people think he is a turncoat, and also unsubscribe. You can scroll through these comments and see some people are calling him a sellout for this, or saying he misrepresented, and all the dude wants to do play with cars. And the last thing he wants is to have FoMoCo mad at him, especially since he has some pretty examples of their work, including the Lightning....
@@davidtimmerman3368 That's what's wrong with this world today. If you worry about getting canceled, then you're not really being honest. Who cares what Alex Jones or Ford thinks? Who cares what their fans think? They can make their own videos (we already know what Ford's video would NOT show). Tyler's original video was not political, but he made this video political for no good reason.
@@davidtimmerman3368 He made this video to try n minimize the damage because it's well known that TH-cam punishes conservative content creators or any who don't go with their agenda and talk about things they don't approve. Even if you mention certain things like china. I know of several car creators who won't use the word gun even if it's in reference to a tool. It will hurt his channel long term no doubt about it.
Right there with you. I'm the type of person never paid more then 1500 bucks for a car, I look at these brand new 2022s and think, I can't wait to pick one of these up 15yrs from now for a thousand bucks... But will they survive? All these modules and screens still gonna work 15 yrs from now? I dunno man.
I'm with you here. I enjoy buying bangers and seeing how long they last. But by the time these new cars depreciate to the point I'm able to afford one, I suspect they'll have all sorts of problems with batteries, modules, and other electrical problems.
In 15 years we will all be walking .if the crazy people get there Way. Because after all these EVs blow up there battery from over charging and burn's down your house or shop it going to devastate the car industry or god for bid a sun flare hits the Earth and nothing works because we went to electric every thing. People just don't know how valiant the world really is besides if no gas no other stuff either will be made with by products that you get from fossil fuels like life saving plastic like IV's and six thousand other products your will still get them but it will cost 10.20.50. present more to make because all the gas they got to separate from the oils. No more phones either six percent of a phone is made up of these products. Talking about shooting your self in the foot here we go.
I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to buy used ICE vehicles pretty much forever. They're banning the sale of NEW passenger ICE cars, nothing more. But I also think that all this new-fangled electronic tech will become old hat in a few decades, and there will be plenty of companies selling rebuilt modules and batteries at very fair prices, with lots of mechanics who know how to work on them. Just like you can still go online and buy a Model A carburetor.
calling who out? Well ... Hoovie did go over 25MPH or even Twenty-Something! Still, EVs have some odd limitations. Just ask Deutschland! They were warned.
Honesty? The only thing he got jones on was that he went 20mph faster. Other than that jones called it like he saw it in the video. It’s a garbage vehicle that can’t perform like other trucks. These ev’s cause more pollution than your fossil fuel burning vehicles that emit carbon which is the base of all life on earth. You people living in the matrix are brain dead.
I’m curious where you get/got your money to fund his candy land garage? Try doing this in California. You would go broke just in fees and tax before your season was over But good honest reporting
Love the fact that you gave a realistic review of this truck. Guess what, this is the real world is and that's how lots of people would use this vehicle.
Only an IDIOT would think the FIRST generations of a new type would be even remotely useful for towing or hauling. Those folks FAILED at Science and Math classes obviously. Even the gas/diesel engine versions WARN you that TOWING WILL REDUCE EFFECTIVE FUEL RANGE!!! Its in the fucking MANUAL!! I'm SURE the EV one has it CLEARLY Stated too!!
This is an opportunity for Tyler to re-do his initial video, but with the Ford towing profile optimized for it that the EV rep mentioned and the drop hitch for a level load. Let's see how much of a difference it really makes!
@@ironymatt you're missing the point. Real world usage mean that people will hook up the truck with the trailer leaning one way or the other, they're going to drive by it at 65-75 mph and if you're in the Northwoods, like I am, there's going to be freezing cold weather, heater running, wipers running, etc. I don't have time to way for a truck to charge for hours on my way to a job and I'm not going to ask my customer if I can charge my vehicle once I'm there.
@@ironymatt are you slow? Ofcourse it’ll have better range in perfect perfect conditions but majority of people aren’t goin to hitch it up perfectly like that. Why would you even get this thing when something half the price can tow a heavier load for further and more efficiently. You sound like a ford shill
@@andrewfletcher5584 I agree with everything you said except that I missed the point. I want to see what difference a repeat would make, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of how it'll be used the vast majority of the time. Could it be that you missed *my* point?
That is exactly one of the reasons why I don’t watch any news anymore. Neither left nor right. They all turn things around to their likings. Great job Hoovie.
Would like to see nasa go to the moon on an electric rocket,,,if they make it back with 20 percent left ,,maybe then I will buy a whole fleet of trucks ,,laughable
What about the heater? Could that put more dran on the battery? And what if say it's a cold rainy night with wipers on lights on heat on GPS on charging phone rear window defrost on. What would the range be in this scenario?
Sensationalism is the issue Hoovie. It breeds more sensationalism. Not everyone is smart enough to analyze and think for themselves. MOST are too lazy to get ALL the information before flying off the handle. They love the clickbait. Eat it like cotton candy. It’s actually not a good thing. But it does make more than a few people rich. You know? 😊
@@johnlincoln4616 I wish that were true. Too many times has this yelling ape been right and too many times has he brought true conspiracies to the light. The times every other democratic media outlet could dismiss him as "fake news" is over.
@@johnlincoln4616 "Idiot" media. Alex Jones stopped doing conspiracy stuff a long time ago. Now he is all about selling Q shit and his supplements and shit to pay for his massive lawsuits.
Conspiracy's never unfold into Truth. Most of the stuff Alex says comes to fruition. Now where's the conspiracy factor? He didn't lie, that truck is not a truck, it's a city crawler
We all(hopefully) really appreciate the amount of transparency you have in your videos. Nothing better than being straight to the point and sticking to facts. Keep it up.
I know like the New York Times who lied about wmd (just one example) to get us into a war that lasted twenty years and cost 10s of thousands of lives! But the stuff Alex Jones says is definitely worse!
Tyler providing commentary of an Alex Jones video in which Alex Jones is providing commentary on a video Tyler produced is the full circle I never expected to see today
I follow Hoovie since the towing days with the Mercedes. Also the other Mercedes that was stolen and towed in the bushes. Also towing the hoopties. Best TOWING TESTING CHANNEL EVER
I am a HVAC contractor and your video did actually change my mind about buying one. Since in PA we have 6 months of freezing weather could you do your test again with the heater on on a 20 degree day. We load our trucks to almost max and because we stop and go several times a day the heater is always on during winter. Most trades operate like this. For us this is just another tool but it has become so full of bullshit from both sides it is impossible to make a solid decision.
The people who are coming at you for being honest are not the people you want to be impressing. Anyway, congrats on all your new subscribers and views.
I don't expect it to be nearly as bad. As he said, the main issue was the thing he was towing was basically as boxy as possible and the trailer itself was tapered funny. Weight does lower range more than gas, but towing is vastly worse.
Towing a small camper travel trailer less than 4000 pounds would have even more wind resistance than the trailer and car would. I would like to see it tow at full capacity as well. Maybe a comparison between the light camper travel trailer and a max capacity camper with equal wind resistance.
No matter how you slice it, it will never compare to a gas-powered vehicle, save maybe a mini nuclear reactor or something like that for a battery. A gas-powered vehicle could tow that trailer upside down dragging it with a load of bricks on top for 200 or or more miles until it was ground down to nothing, and when you run out of gas, simply refill it in about 3 minutes then you're ready to drag that electric vehicle upside down until it is ground to nothing.
No wonder why Jones got his ass sued off. it's obvious that Jones doesn't know shit. I have told people over and over that that battery technology is not quite there yet. and that is holding back EVs at this point in time. maybe sometime in the future battery technology will improve. but right that's where it stands. but people don't want to listen to me and that's their problem. TFL did a test on the Lightning on a steep mountain pass in Colorado. with a much heavier load and it was very impressive. but if a person is going to want to drive across Country. it simply can't be done yet and this is the same for All EVs.
I watch Hoovies Garage purely for the towing reviews!
All 1 of them!
Formerly known as Towie's garage.
I watch Alex Jones for the Hoovie guest spots. Lets go Brandin. Lets hope Steve Bannon is his latest regular guest shag boy.
LOL! Towie's Garage.. Sorry Tyler you're having to deal with InfoWars, complete garbage.
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You gave an honest opinion of your experience. It’s consumer information that people need. Don’t apologize.
An honest opinion would not have been so one sided. IMHO LOL
@@danharold3087 yes, opinions should be faked to present the non existent 'other side'.
*I am a proud straight white male.*
@@MrXperx Generally when one only sees one side it is a strong indication of bias.
Did he apologize? I must've missed it.
That’s a real world tow. You use the hitch you got for the payload you got. We don’t get to choose only aerodynamic things to tow.
Don't think you're a dynamics will make much of a difference you'll still find yourself dead on the end of the road.
No, in the real world people with different trailers use hitch mounts with varying heights and hitch balls to adjust. It's not rocket science.
@@chuckschillingvideos in my real world I see people use chains, ropes, etc… whatever they have available. Hoovie did a real world tow whether he likes it or not.
@@chuckschillingvideos as a 3rd generation farmer I'd say, no, no they don't. We have dozens of hitches of drop sizes and we just grab the first one we can find, put it on the truck, "Is it going to drag? Is it going to bottom out?" "No, then it's good." The real world doesn't go up to a table/wall full of their different hitches and figure out which one will be optimal for the weight and load they are going to tow.
@@limptuna7687 you mean you don’t do advanced math, engineering and wind tunnel testing every time you need to tow something?
Well look on the bright side, you went viral and grew the channel. Plus you stood up and addressed the hysteria it created to set the record straight. That’s class.
Also, this is an opportunity to talk about HIF and the synthetic, carbon neutral fuel they are producing - long live the combustion engine.
Classy is he didn't RTFM or would have known the range estimates are based on city driving with regenerative braking
yaaa but the people who blindly belives alex jones :-p :-p wont see this clip or the original clip soooo
Alex jones was right on so many issues
Hoovie is prime time now. Your review of the Ford Lightning was accurate; range when towing is horrific and will worsen as the battery degrades.
Or when it gets cold, or hot, or hilly
Weird…. Here's What Happened When We Tried To Tow With The Ford F150 Lightning Electric Pickup Truck
th-cam.com/video/aGCokwJnntQ/w-d-xo.html
the infowars guy seems like an idiot but I think they call that exaggeration.
It’s not just the Ford. It’s the same with ALL electric vehicles. It’s their one huge downfall.
@Nikki Gordon-Bloomfield Look, I appreciate the effort, but I feel like you're wasting time with people who are aren't interested in a balanced view, but only in the negatives of something so they can apply that "fact" to an _entire_ segment that they hate, who are probably most of Hoovie's viewers tbh.
You told the truth in a reasonable, informative and fun way. What people do with the information isn't up to you. Don't be discouraged.
It is if they misrepresent what he said
Hoovie was whining like a little girl when he realized his truck wouldn't make it two trips on one charge. Stop being a drama queen for views.
@@johnshefferly8383 you got hurt fruitcake ?
@@johnshefferly8383 exactly, I just don't understand what the problem is here. The rich politicians want to ban the gasoline powered tools we rely on every day to make a living. That crazy guy was using Hoovie's video as proof that we still need gas engines. He is wrong about the details but correct about EV's not being up to the job.
OH no, he told the truth! Something leftists aren't used to.
There's many reasons to watch Tyler's videos but the best reason is that he's always been honest with the audience about what he does.
That, and the towing reviews.
Unlike Breitbart or Alex Jones, who don't know the meaning of the word honest.
*When Lego & Star Wars first met...*
He was never honest with us about being a towing review channel DX
It's why his video was noticed. He didn't bullshit
I was watching an English Reviewer trying different loads on a Motorway at 70 mph. He lost (Approx) 7% of his SUV's range simply by putting ski racks and a pair of Snow Skis on it. That was actually about the same as he lost putting 4 other passengers in it. Aerodynamics is really important to EV's. He scaled it up, and a Caravan ended up taking about 60% of it's range.
That's what they are used for, for moving things!
Caravans halve fuel mileage on 'normal' vehicles as well. BUT can be refueled and on the road again in 10 min.
A real 'lightning rod' of controversy for Hoovie; he's normally a well-grounded TH-camr, not one to spark this sort of chaos
Don’t cry ohm about it. Very revolting.
IC Watt u did There. 🤣😉
But it hertz so much. Lol
This is a very polarizing comment.
Are you positive?
My favorite part of his channel is how he tests all vehicle's towing capabilities. Whether it's Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Aston Martin, or Ford, he tows them all. You are the Man Hoovie!
Underrated comment
Especially when they are on fire! Hoovie's cars on fire towing segments are second to none!
learn something new everyday, can't wait until we dig up that car for a towing test.
Yup, most of Tyler's cars have been towed (on the back of a tow truck) one time or another. They all towed rather well.
Yeah. I really liked the one where he put the 5th wheel on the Ferrari 308GT and hauled that 50 foot Airstream across the Donner Pass almost as much as when he used the Bugatti Veyron to pull the Winnebago out of the muddy ditch.
Hoovies Infowars is my favorite trailer towing test channel. Looking forward to Tyler's new segment with Alex where they drive electric cars looking for lizard human hybrids
I hear they can be found at the Bilderbergers Conference. Maybe they can stop off at one of the FEMA Death Camps and visit the secret Russian Troops. Lol
LOL
Is Hoovie a Shapeshifter?
Guess we know Hoovie is a D
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Imagine having an 8 hour car ride towing your camper and only going 60 miles max!! That will make for a longer road trip
To be fair, I don't watch your videos because everything is broken. I watch because you fix them and I love to see the cars saved.
You and i have different definitions of broken when it comes to cars. There is a 0-100 difference between cars that needs body shop and specialized equipment to fix and ones that have an oil leak that is perpetual for some cars.
Hoovie doesn't fix anything he pays people to fix them have you even watched his channel?
@@bravobrk Oh I 100% agree. I drove a 1993 Subaru for 10 years that I paid $350 for and now I drive a 1993 Subaru with more miles but less rust that I paid $500 for. When I say broken I just mean "have things that should be fixed" hahaha.
@@gregjarvis1232 Of course HE doesn't fix them. I just like a lot of the cars. Don't you people have anything better to do than be negative? My favorite channel is BoostedBoiz. I live The Skid Factory. I watch a ton of stuff. I even watch The Wizard occasionally, but basically just his Ferrari videos. Sheesh.
Wizard fixes them. He buys them broken.
You handled this incredibly well while staying kind and moderate. Thanks for the nuance Hoovie. I wouldn't get that from a lot of people if they were in your shoes.
Agreed!
I sub to this channel because he covers ALL aspects of something and is honest about actual ownership.
His review was honest and affirmed all the information I had already attained via independent research. EV's have poop range for towing. (Don't tell me I'm going to go 20mph under the speed limit while towing, it's not going to happen.)
Infowars guy was CLEARLY an idiot, not knowing what he was talking about or clearly lying.
I have 3 cars. I may replace my Focus RS with an EV. I may replace my SUV with a hybrid, but I probably won't replace my truck ever with an EV... This doesn't mean I'm against them, but just like was stated in the video, the cons are too far negative for the jobs I'm demanding of the vehicle.
AND 1 thing not stated ever in EV reviews is you absolutely need a lvl 2 charger installed at your home location if you plan to drive an EV daily. That's an additional ~$1000 cost...
Alex Jones gives head to chipmunks
You do a great job on your channel. Now, let's get dwn to the real topic both seen & hidden. This video was a TOTAL CYA deal. Trying to undo the massive bad PR damage that Jones created from thin air, using selected facts, ( as do ALL MAIN STREAM MEDIA outlets, daily, to lie to viewers). So now Hoov has to try to do a wrap of car review video so as to try to appease the Ford pple from totally ruining his present and future relationship with the largest truck manufacturer on US soil. It's rather comical to see how a guy that nobody including Hoov likes (Jones) when he 8s doing EXACTLY what MSM does daily to viewers by lying & twisting facts to suit there narrative. Like when WhiteHouse press secretary JKP lied 9 ways from Sunday about how Joe's gaffe of a tragic death of a woman in congress a month previous, was met by Our President asking where she is in the crowd during his speech. That part was not funny. What was funny was the circular loop of lies the WhiteHouse told to try to defend Joe Bidens inability to remember when pple died & how they can no longer be present for his press brief or speeches.
Anyway, Hoov had to try to smooth this all over to avoid a future relationship with Ford, & although Ford Executives would never act mad about this PR nightmare, even Hoov had to ADMIT he uses clicking titles to lure in viewers & subs. So this whole thing was a TOTAL Public relations disaster for Hoov, Ford, & CLIMATE Change/Global Warming activist. & Hoov doing everything possible to distance himself from his own content by pointing out small nuggets of misrepresented info from his vid to Jones show. When we see the exact same things DAILY from our own Main Stream Media & WhiteHouse, & are just supposed to accept it as fact, when they present lies & twisted dialog as real reporting. So, in closing, for once, maybe...just maybe... the Liberal Left got a dose of there own medicine. Clearly this scared Hoov. Not cuz he did anything wrong. But because Liberal public relations was given to them what they believe they give to the STUPID AMERICAN PPLE every day. & now nobody likes it. & this could cost pple something do to the damage believed to be done to everyone involved.
Welcome Liberal Pple, to the world of 74 million voters. Now ya get to understand how they feel when you lie to them daily on TV, youtube, & the internet in general.
Nice review BTW, Hoov. Especially pointing out the seat materials on the Ford EV F150. Man, this really scared ya, looking forward into your own future. Well... lesson learned son. U want clicks, so ya use titles to get um. & now no free trucks for you anymore from Ford. Unless your awesome review in this video got you off the hook.. Don't worry. Americans have short memories. & politicians know this. Just gotta deny deny deny, till the next distraction comes along. Just think if TH-cam shut off your channel like they have thousands of others who accidentally did exactly what you did..?? Got the wrong pple upset at you. Those CLIMATE pple & Others will crush guys like yourself if you hadn't done all the hiding & fainting to try so hard to show how bad you act like you feel. Hopefully U appeased everyone and u get to keep the revenue from all those great clicks & new subs you got out if it. Cuz really, you win big time on this deal.. Nice Job... especially since it Clearly wasn't your intention.. 😆
I mean if Info Wars can't or won't get the most basic facts right, how can people trust anything they say? 🤦🏻
Exactly what I wanted to say - but better expressed. Thanks to you both!
This would have been a great opportunity to plug in some commentary about the Right to Repair movement! This is a real push in the automotive community and the more coverage is given, the more it can move forward! There's a few open source projects for replacement control units for various modules, and slowly but surely there are more and more for other electronics! Hoopties will only be a thing of the past if we let the big players get away with their non-repair-friendly methodology!
Big yes!
You already have that right; the thing is that your rights must be exercised. You and many other people subscribe to the idea that others will exercise your rights for you, but the reality is that you must assert your rights and stick by them. If you want to know what your rights are, look at what the enemy is labeling as "sovereign citizen" and mocking - they're pushing that propaganda to keep you a slave to them.
For example, each state DMV is operating a massive fraud, because federal statutes define MOTOR VEHICLES as "a carriage...used for commercial purposes" in 18 U.S. Code § 31 (6). And yes, this applies in EVERY STATE because each state is subject to the supremacy clause of the Constitution for the United States...so it doesn't matter how states define "MOTOR VEHICLE" if it is in conflict with the federal statute, which requires "commercial use" to be a requirement.
The other big scam is tricking you into believing that your car or truck is "equipment", thus subject to registration. Equipment is something used for commercial purposes. For most people, who just use their cars/trucks for traveling in private (i.e. you are not being paid to transport goods or passengers), they are CONSUMER GOODS (durable goods) which are not subject to registration. See UCC § 9-102 (23).
Yesssss!
As long as there are cars and trucks they’ll always be someone, somewhere wanting to make it go faster, go stronger or go longer. Never worry Hoopties will always be here in one form or another.
Yess
Man I honestly subscribed because you pointed out the video showing how to get the max mileage driving conservatively. It shows that you are an honest reviewer and not just someone in it for the followers.
I guess FORD now stands for “Fix or Recharge Daily” 💯
more like recharge hourly.
@@FosterFarmsOk Soo...FORH?
That’s a real knee slapper old man 👴🏼
@@Cousin_Gregg Yeah, I remember when I was a young dumbshit and thought anyone over 30 was "old". Don't worry, you'll grow out of it.
@@LG123ABC how do we know each other?
Tyler and his towing reviews are the heart and soul of Hoovie's garage, didn't you know!?
Sue Alex for Journalistic Malpractice.
There is a LOT of towing in his videos. So it's easy to make that mistake.
Wait this isn't the "Tylers Towing" channel? Huh... now all those other videos he has of sports cars suddenly make a lot more sense.
@@lordgoofus2364 Well as often as his hoopties are getting towed..................it might as well be "Tylers towing"
The fact you can see how fast the truck is going and he still said can’t go over 25mph is what got me lol
That’s big EV moving the horizon backwards for the video.
Probably read something wrong and went with it lol
@@Aron-ru5zk You can see the dash and it says 70
Honestly, if you expect shows like that to tell anything remotely true, you'll be disappointed. Why? Because there's no consequences for lying. In fact, with how things are, they're actually rewarded for straight up lying.
Those viewers don't verify anything they hear. Why would they be lied to? And if they were lied to, it wasn't that bad. And if it was that bad, it wasn't the host's fault. And if it was the host's fault, it doesn't matter anyway because their ENEMIES are lying anyway.
Hoovie - just ignore them. You have what’s called an HONEST opinion, which is why you’re successful so just keep trucking along.
Honestly hoovie, be proud. When you've made it on Alex Jones, you've made it to the top of the mountain meme status. You did it!
@@morphyon oh man
@@morphyon THEY PUT CHEMICALS IN THE WATER TO MAKE THE FROGS GAY!
I was going to say to the top of the mountain of crap, but yours sounds better.
@@fcorivers when degenerate redditors know you that’s when you’re screwed.
The Hoov-man may be called to testify in AJ's next trial.
"He can't get the car above 25mph", immediately cuts to clip of Hoovie driving the truck at 41mph.
it is a F.O.R.D. (Fast Only Rolling Downhill)
Right before that, there is a brief shot of the speedometer showing 73 mph! 9:13
And One clip was at 73 lol
9:10 73MPH. lmao xD
Did they mean MPG, but the electric equivalent?
The Alex Jones and Tyler Hoover crossover universe is absolutely insane and I'm here for it
Edit - Alex Jones is a crazy person and I have no respect for him. It doesn't mean this crossover is ridiculous and hilarious. Poor Hoovie has to deal with the crazies now lol
Ur mom is overweight
And that’s where the problem starts.. giving Alex jones any recognition only makes things worse for Tyler.
@@ObesePuppies Alex Jones already started with Alernative facts like the model T having more power of the Lichtning only being able to drive 20MPH, of course both are lies
We need a collaboration. I want to hear about how EVs are turning the frogs gay. Then find out a half decade later that it was true.
@@ObesePuppies Or we just don't bash people in general? Everyone knows that Alex Jones spins conspiracies so why keep mentioning him or bashing him for doing what he does? Just sayin'.
Thank you for an unbiased review of this vehicle. I always questioned the range and you nailed it.
He says it won't go over 20 miles an hour as the camera pans to the speedometer showing you going 70 😂
And people still believe him!
it's not all about what a person can see
He doesn’t know how to keep quiet.
That's what Jones is all about! Blatantly lie and just scream it over and over until someone believes him!😂
nah fuck that what did ford pay or say to him to make him review it again LMFAO lets be honest thats what this video was
Your reaction and response embodies the humility and good humor that has won you a solid base of viewers. WTG, Tyler.
Not this one,unsubscibed.
No, it doesn't, because he threw a fit because two groups he didn't like pointed out the catastrophic consequences of the coming EV only law. They were 100 percent right that this would hurt people, but Hoovie cries and calls it "political." Yeah, when you have a law outlawing something that is going to hurt people, it's going to be "political." But screw all the people who actually work for a living--rich Hoovie has lefty friends who won't like that he has exposed a major evil in a lefty law, so he has to cry. Alex Jones is a kook, but the whining about The Wrong Sort covering him accurately was pathetic.
O look, the butt hurt MAGA crowd found your comment.
He complains about a future without hoopties while fanboying all over the EVs! I detest the mandates, they are purely political and definitely not practical. Tyler mentions the “infrastructure bill” fixing the charging station dilemma, and it flat ass won’t. That is a pork filled bill meant to pay back political allies just like Solindra and the solar farce BS. We need push back against government involvement in EVs! Let the free market decide!
Miss your towing videos, what happened?
I love that at one point you can see you're going 73MPH but he says you can't break 25
Probably Kph, like those Communists use.
im sure he ment MPG OR MPER
@@moniack 73 kph is still 45 mph
OK so 73 is the new 25mph. So that means we can only to 10 around town as that was the old 30mph and the old 50mph is now 17. I wonder how many people would be cussing me out for driving these new speeds Infowars are implying. The guy's an idiot.
@@Wildstar40 yup, but does it really matter?
Tell it like it is.
I appreciate the honesty. I do not feel i will buy a new car in next 10 years, gas or electric.. price is outrageous on both. Especially if a vehicle doesnt meet fuctional requirements. Drive across Montana 20 below zero in the dark.
TFL Truck also towed identical trailers behind a Lightning and a GMC Sierra (gas), and had very similar results with the Lightning ravenously devouring range, and had to be recharged after 50 miles. The GMC went round trip and only used a few gallons of fuel. So your towing experience is not unusual for this truck.
What are you Alex Jones? I went and watched the video and they got 89 miles of range. Now that is 1/3 of the total range but I'm tired of people literally just making stuff up.
I believe TFL rated the towing rage as 100 miles not 50. Still a big drop from 300. Let's not exaggerate.
@@donkey4578 he’s sighting a different review….
@@NickApex Lol if he is talking about the hill climb video they didn't start with a full charge.....
If I remember rightly, he did 30 miles each direction, that is 60miles, and decided he couldn’t do another return trip which presumably would total 120 miles. That is, he said he couldn’t do 120 miles which seems to roughly align with TFL trucks. Some people just can’t handle any suggestion that EVs aren’t everything to everyone every time yet. The fact remains that you can’t tow any useable distance for many people.
I appreciate Hoovie being able to stay "in the middle" and appreciating EVs for what they are and what they give, and criticizing them where they do fall short.
Of course he’s going to be in the middle. Look at what happens when someone picks a side. You get booted off of TH-cam for dumb conspiracy theories that only the right believe or, if you’re left, the right hypocritically tries to “cancel” you. The only right option when doing a video like this is to remain neutral and not lose any of your fan base.
for real hoovie is a real g for it.
EVs have a place in this world. Just not in my driveway!
exactly the constructive criticism is what pushes advancements and improvements
Yeah, I believe people should have a choice. I don’t want an EV but I’m sure there are people who do.
IW: He can't get above 20 mph
IW: *Shows a clip with the speedometer at 73*
And his followers couldn't care less. They'll believe the 20 mph claim, and tell a friend.
#HoovieTheCrisisActor
Yeah, there was no need to lie about it. The facts were bad enough.
Yeah. I don’t know why he said that.
@@SonnyGTA Yeah I’m thinking he probably didn’t watch the video or the clip showing 73 on the dash lol
Maybe he meant to say mpg, not mph? Since the lightning is rated at 61mpg highway, and it loses about 2.5× to 3× the range when towing, bringing it to roughly 20-24mpg... maybe?
You gave an honest review. The truck is very limited by range. There is no question. There is also no question that it has incredible torque. Keep up what youre doing
Why apologize for providing your honest experience? Honesty is something lost on reviews nowadays and is desperately needed.
He is apologizing because he is just like thr rest scared of being cancelled
Probably apologizing because alex Jones reported on his video. I imagine he heard somewhere that Jones is a racist nazi or some crap
I mean he's more so acknowledging and commenting on a well known scam artist that is trying to use his content to paint a broader political narrative.
@@markboyd3931 Funny but the Alex Jones’s are always the ones who want to burn books and cancel when they get power. Stop being lied to.
@@sussolus I mean, if you have a youtube channel with millions of followers/views and are worried about someone commenting on your content, you should probably find a different career.
Towing is the only reason I've watched this channel for the last 7 years! All of my towing questions have been answered here!!
Probably 3 years for me.
Great to see you recognized on a large automotive channel like Info Wars!
Their towing tests are legendary.
😂
🤣 His fake news and conspiracy theories on automakers and towing tests have helped me so much over the years!
🤣🤣🤣
@@moniack Jones seems to have quite a bit of experience towing around a considerable weight.
People already mod EVs in their garage. And built them from scratch in college. It isn't going away, it just takes a different skillset than working on carburetors etc.
The issue is car repair is a trade and should be one, EVs you need a university degree to work on them, that is a problem
“Mod” EV’s? What can you do to an EV to “mod” it outside of bodywork or interior. My Tesla S P85D was extremely limited. Boring cars to “mod”
@@Alps6408 abd and fender bender with that tesla will cost you and arm and a leg to repair and you cant take it to any garage only tesla aporoved ones
@@TeaJay83 u obviously never seen rich rebuilds. it takes far more intelligence to tune a carb than it does to plug in an electrical cord 🤣
@9:10
I love that he's saying it can't go over 20 while literally showing your speedometer at 73 MPH... quality work AJ... :/
Alex Jones is hilarious. But anyone who watches him for accurate news... Well... Its like watching CNN for accurate political news. You're crazy lol.
AJ just can't speak without lies coming out of his mouth!
@@Redslayer86 the most truth you'll find anywhere. He's obviously exaggerating for radio listeners.
Timestamp for when it says 73 mph.
@@Mouthy_Trucker Can't wait until he is bankrupted for his Sandy Hook nonsense.
I love how he says it can't go over 20 and shows it towing at 73 and 40 in the video. LOL
Yeah, Alex Jones is never stopped by silly things like facts and truth.
Must be some of those kilometricans or something!
Hoovie mis-informing...."it was a really heavy load"....it basically weighed similar to an empty Uhaul trailer....lol
"Big, massive, comfortable riding TRUCK." (You just can't USE it as a truck....HAHAHAHAHA)
@@trailrunnah8886 Alex CIA Jones's job is to make truth seekers look crazy, collect info on said truth seekers, to protect the country in my name and sell bone broth & super viral male pills.
Alex lies? Say it ain't so.
You did nothing but showing an honest review. Which is hard to come by no adays.
Every lightning truck review I've seen appeared to be honest to me; showing pros & cons. Do you have links showing all of these dishonest reviews you speak of?
Naw. He was sensational about it. He deserves to show up on infor wars. There are plenty of non sensational reviews of towing with EVs on TH-cam
Yet, here he is, doing damage control. Saying his real world experience, was flawed?
And that going dangerously slow on the highway, is more "realistic"?? Referencing JR Garage's video, going 50 in a 70 zone?
Seems like Ford got to, and paid off Hoovie to say nice things.
It is amazing to watch the way different people put different spin on the same thing…we can’t just accept things for what they are.
Exactly. This EV truck could be perfect for one person and terrible for another and yet people want to define it as one thing for everyone which is silly. It's almost like they are doing that for clicks and views implying that clicks and views somehow get them more money which is high on their priority list.
@@lanceareadbhar The problem there is I have seen advertising pointing out the lightnings ability for towing so.... would that be Fords spin?
@@cjtuckerbpmc it can tow though....
@@TheOrlobo barely....
@@cjtuckerbpmc fair enough. It would be enough for my in town towing.
The bigger issue is what these gangster Ford dealerships are charging in markups for these!!
EXACTLY THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR MINDS!!!
Big facts
you can thank biden for the increase in cost of gm and Ford ev. they give incentives they jack up prices higher than the incentive.
Everywhere.
@@therealnynetynyne360 Sooo would that mean that all other evs would also do the same thing? Also non EV vehicles have prices astronomicaly high. Sky high prices are because of unscrupulus dealers.
“They are turning the trucks gay” insert Alex J voice
Dont say that, you'll get cancelled
He's right again
small engines with turbochargers on "fleet trucks". And more expensive than ever. Yeah, trucks blow now.
When they should be turning them impotent like their owners.
@@P3rformula might as well get an old 7.3 or an LS
You did a VERY dangerous thing. You told the TRUTH! ON CAMERA!
And Alex Jones did not. He just straight up started making shit up. "Look, it can't even go over 25 mph!" As Hoovie looks down at the speedometer and it says 73mph. I'm not even sure he was watching the same video.
@@DownerJIH1981 Alex Jones is a well known grifter that plays on the stupidity of gullible people. Anyone that believes a word that guy says is beyond help.
I know you are aware of that…. Just throwing it out there for anyone that’s been living under a rock the last couple years.
Exactly
@@DownerJIH1981 yea, the fact that Alex showed the speedo is gold. He doesn’t even care about covering his lies anymore.
Well, he told the truth about his own single user experience on a very popular TH-cam channel in a country where less than half of the population has gone to college, so.....
Don't feel bad.
I know a guy who bought one in North Dakota.
Wasn't even particularly cold at 20F. He had to stop and charge multiple times to get it home 200 miles. Had to run with the heat off. He was only getting 65 miles between charges.
He returned it. The next day. Bought a truck with a V8.
The Ford lightning is garbage, and in the wrong situation, North Dakota winter driving, it could be a death trap.
They did this exact same test on The Fast Lane Trucks and found the exact same results a few months back. Interesting that Hoovie got much more traction with it...
The TH-cam algorithm is a strange place. The more you question it, the more strange it becomes
Who?????
Hoovie did what Hoovie does: Sensationalized his title/thumbnail. As he says, he does that for the views.
Can’t stand TFL
Hoovie's got a larger audience.
Making these an actual work truck will be a serious challenge and the engineers already knew that. Honesty wins the day.
True. But many trucks and suvs are not used as workhorses or off road, they are bought for 'lifestyle'. So while people want inappropriate vehicles just based on looks they need options that are appropriately powered.
Unborn babies shouldn't have soot particles in them (new studies confirm this is now the case) just for peoples insecurities and fashion sense.
Standardize the batteries and swap them out instead of charging on the vehicle. Solves both charge speed and battery longevity. No one cares how long paper money lasts because banks replace the old bills with new ones.
@@ctrlaltdebug battery swapping has its own set of trade offs, but NIO does do swapping.
The need to replace (second use & recycle) batteries is also often overblown. Degradation is much less of a problem than is made out to be.
Truth is, inductive charging can be added to roads such a that a tiny fraction of them could boost range while driving enough so to nEVer need to stop to charge. A few strategically placed charging lanes could eliminate the need to stop and charge, but humans still likely need to take a brake while driving many hours.
@@thebrowns5337 yeah, but many trucks are bought for trucking things. Many
Yea...the city municipality I work for just ordered 100 of these Ford Lightnings.....can't wait to see how they perform on a 9 hour work day, let alone 16+ hours during times of trouble.....gonna be a hoot!!!
There’s no such thing as bad publicity! Keep being your honest self, Tyler!
Honesty and truth. That's what I'm after. That's why I watch.
@@Vegas043-c3k the conservative media was not angry with Tyler dont make up stuff
@@Vegas043-c3k Bogus lie
@@Vegas043-c3k 🤫
@@billpar If anything I am only seeing people firmly on the left who are upset about all this. Wonder why...
To be fair I see these trucks targeting the people who want a truck but do not really use it as a truck.
Those people want a truck for what it can do, not what it does do. IMO ford FKd up hard only offering a tiny 100kwh pack when my sedan is comfortable with a 77, you don’t put a 13 gallon tank on a 400hp engine. The Silverado has a 200+kwh pack and has been shown to tow a 6’ high 8’ wide 25’ long trailer loaded over three tons to go 220 miles on the freeway which doubles ford and is equivalent or outperforms the 3.5 ecoboost with the standard 23 gallon tank.
It's good to have these videos come out and go viral. It forces the companies to improve.
Amen to that statement
Yep. Companies NEED honest, real world, feedback. And it can't get any better than this. The idiots that use this type of feedback for their political spin agenda are just trolls, and should be ignored.
@@davelowets Yes. The irony is that all the EV haters are making the vehicles better.
The improvement would be to go back to combustion engines and stop with this fantasy EV bs.
@@denydefendepose They won't ever get much better. There are physical and chemical limitations that simply won't allow it. Thinking we can transition 100% to electrical vehicles is pure idiocy.
Just keep doing honest content and don't concern yourself with the opinions of how people will react. Your videos rule!
And EV’s suck for everyone who has more than 15 min drive to work. Which is 70% of the planet.
anyone who bought into the ev hype is a complete buffoon
*I am a proud straight white male.*
I live in Illinois and several times a year I drive to either MO, NY, GA, NE, CO, or UT. On these trips I drive 300-600 miles per day, often with a very fully loaded SUV. Until they develop a vehicle with at least a 600 mile range, I’m never getting an EV.
I love after Jones says "won't go over 20 something miles per hour" it cuts to you doing 40+
i saw 70 something right before it cut to the 40ish 😵💫💀
deadass shows him goin 70 then 40 😅
he obviously meant to say 20 miles
@@ryandriscoll1672 you might have made that argument if he said it once. But he said it multiple times, and iirc he even read it from the script at one point
He was reacting to a “news” article not the footage. “That’s almost 90 miles of range in 30 miles” clearly what he was referring to no script only an article
The solution is obvious guys.
Buy a diesel generator and keep it in the back of the truck (or trailer it if you jeed the space).
Whenever you stop to do a job, fire up the generator and charge your car with it.
Boom! Problem solved!
Stand your ground man, you did nothing wrong.
Don’t apologize dude. Keep going and don’t back down. If they made a sucky product let them hear it.
Yeah definitely don't worry about porky he probably won't be alive much longer , probably been ten years since he was able to wipe himself correctly
Did you even watch this video????
How to say you didn't actually watch the video without saying you didn't actually watch the video. . .
You showed how a normal person would do some towing with a truck. Important for us casual guys who might not tow often, but sometimes have to hook up a trailer and get your kids hooptie on the side of the road. Or if you need to trailer up and get some heavy trash to the local dump.
Just all a tow truck. Your EV isn't going to make it back home unless they're just down the block.
I'm very sure that a Lightning EV can haul heavy trash to the local dump with NO PROBLEM. What affects all EVs, not just this one, and is what happened to Tyler, is carrying a fairly heavy load at high freeway speeds over a relatively long distance. Emphasis on the high speed (75+ mph) and longer distance. In a few years, the Lightning EV will probably cost less and have a higher-capacity battery option. Not everybody should be the first adopter of a first-generation electric truck.
Just not too much heavy trash and not too far to the dump and not too many times in one day.
@@calholli your just talking shit to talk shit your argument doesn't mean anything
Hoovie new sponsor "Info Wars"..... Hahahah
Charges in 45min at a DC charge station Ford has a network of 6k+ stations and your truck can plan your charge on your trip.
best towing review ever. Please keep making YOUR videos; if other people/personalities choose to misunderstand or misrepresent them, that's on them. If the car companies don't like that your video doesn't fit with their marketing, they can make a better car or stop lying in their marketing. Either way, your following here is the result of your blend of fun mixed with showing the actual reality of owning these various cars.
I second this. I just watched the other video a few minutes ago. It was just fine, and he did a good job.
Well sure but it is unfortunate that people listen to and believe what some people/personalities say. Sad.
Nothing wrong with battery guzzlers or gas guzzlers. What is wrong is government mandating to get rid of one. Build both and let the buyer choose. (just like water heaters)
All the man did was tell us what his personal experience was. He said that towing the empty aluminum trailer, what was it... something like 25-30 miles and it took 50+ miles of battery power to do it. And then he had to charge up the battery to make it back home with a small, lightweight, 1930s pickup truck. When he got home the battery had a very low remaining charge. And this all happened in the Topeka, Kansas area, which is about as flat as a kitchen table. Virtually no hills to climb. If somebody says that he woke up in the morning and it appeared to him that the sun was coming up in the east, he's just telling us what his personal eyeballs saw. What's the problem with all these people.?
@ripvanracer EVs won't replace ICE cars if EVs haven't progressed enough by the time any "mandate" is supposed to take effect. Personal transportation is too important in this country that there would be immense pushback and any "mandate" would certainly be replealed.
To suggest EVs will be forced upon everybody only adds fuel to the conspiracy dumpster fire.
Glad to see your towing review skills are finally being recognized
The best part is listening to the guy say he cant get it over 25 mph and the video showing him doing 73mph LOL
Mpw
73 was the estimated range, the speed is on the left of the cluster
I'm pretty sure he meant over 20 miles of range, it is Alex Jones so yes some of it will be exaggerated either way I don't see electric being the future.
@@jhomrich89 dude it definitely went over 20miles of range lmao. Jesus
Alternative facts
Maybe the "stations" should just a a place to swap out your battery for a fully charged one.
Honestly the hitch you used makes it more realistic, a ordinary person isn't going shopping for a hitch that levels the trailer, they just need a hitch. People apparently hate hearing the truth about these trucks..
Exactly. I’d love to see him use a drop hitch because there’s no way you can convince me under same testing conditions it’s making enough difference to be worth noting on an aluminum flat bed trailer. I’m not pulling my enclosed trailer down the highway at 50mph either. That’s ludacris.
Electric car owners are kind of a cult.
@@HIDHIFDB I've never seen a group that worked so hard at polishing turds.
You handled that very well Hoovie, just stay with the facts and call them as you see them.
This is an opportunity for Tyler to re-do his initial video, but with the Ford towing profile optimized for it that the EV rep mentioned and the drop hitch for a level load. Let's see how much of a difference it really makes!
@@ironymatt - I agree, and a perfect opportunity for Ford as well to show the pros and cons and if it works show people good easy to follow practice to maximize fuel efficiency while towing with an internal combustion truck, who doesn’t like to save money on gas.
@@ironymatt it's really not gonna change that much
@@Thai.H you're not wrong. I confess that a good part of my motivation is for Ford's PR about their EVs to be revealed as BS
No apologizing! You told the truth of your experience with it! We need to know these things before we all end up with something we didn’t sign up for?
Sorry comrade-you WILL drive a very impractible electric vehicle, you WILL pay much more exorbitant rates for the electricity to charge said vehicle, and you WILL like it!
You will own nothing, and be happy! ;)
That's why he's on Alex Jones show is because people that enjoy Alex Jones enjoy hearing the truth no matter how bad it might be.
@@TheSteinbitt I have free unlimited supercharging, I'm definitely happy :)
@@matthewvasquez9278 ???
there is an interesting company working on electric trailers for this kind of use case, the trailer has a battery built into it such that the trailer can supply some amount of a range boost to the pick up truck when towing. It is a really interesting idea, idk if it will work, I don't tow much, but glad people are looking into trying to solve this problem.
Still have the battery charging problem.
And lowers the actual payload
The very same company that invented the submarine screendoor
Stay strong, Hoovie. You have made something very informative. And you are genuine and humble. Those are the qualities that make a career, not just a video. Thank you!
It does not help the Conservative cause by spreading false information without checking.
It is obvious Breitbard did not watch or understand the original video.
Hoovies video says that there is lots of torque and he travels at 60 mph.
This is the type of misleading lies that Liberals are expert at..
nah fuck that what did ford pay or say to him to make him review it again LMFAO lets be honest thats what this video was
Seriously. All he did was complain about the range in his video and because Alex Jones agreed with him now he wants to defend the truck? HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Now picture the same trip on a cold rainy winter night with the heater, defroster, windshield wipers, lights, and radio on.
@@mikez6683 I've been saying this to everyone, with the size, weight and range we just aren't fully ready to ban gas yet, we must find a much more efficient way to store energy.
@@gman4141007 We dont ban anything, if the product is good enough it will phase out the old. The government forcing these things on us is just rediculous.
@@mikez6683 the automakers are being paid by tax money to force this on people. It is not about the cars.
@@gman4141007 well we got what, 10-15 years before the bans kick in? Trust me, technology has this. In the past 10 years we've made massive (over 10x) battery capacity improvements, in another 10 years? Wouldn't be surprised to see even more as more money is put into it. Give nerds actual research money, and technology sores forwards.
And imagine ALL vehicles doing the same, including police, ambulances, fire trucks, tractor trailers, not to mention emergency back up generators, heavy equipment Earth movers, ships, planes, etc...
I love how at 9:11 in this video Alex is literally saying “he can’t get it above 25mph” while Hoovie turns the camera in the video and you can see 75mph on the display. 😂😂😂
Not the first lie out of Alex's mouth. Just ask the Sandy Hook parents. Or people he grew up with.
The conservatives always get stuff wrong, what else is new. They're literally subhuman.
It still took a crap in record time though.
@@IronmanV5 the sandy hook parents that have been trying to arrest Alex for how many years? Because why? He made a shitty comment about how some parents were “overdramatizing for the cameras”? He’s been proven right about 80% of the time that’s more than I can say about a lot of public figures. Alex’s point was that ev technology and batteries aren’t technology advanced enough for mass manufacturing and a forced switch from gas to electric. You’d notice how there isn’t a lot of super chargers in the world. The power grid can’t handle it. California has been experiencing rolling blackouts even though we have one of the largest solar and wind farms in the nation. Facts are facts man doesn’t matter how you feel.
@@IronmanV5 as true as that is he doesn't tell as many lies as politicians even current ones in the White House and that Alex weirdo has also been right about a lot of stuff that's why he has the following he does he knows it went over 25 miles an hour he's the ultimate troll
We demand more towing reviews!
Perhaps the next one should be a VW Beetle, or if I dare suggest, a golf cart.
Dont go all wobbly, keep telling the truth, with your personality it will be obvious
09:10 is perfect. "Can't get the car up above 20 some miles per hour"
Hoovie pans the camera...73 MPH.
🤣😂
It's amazing that people still want to put their political spin on crap when the source material is already factual enough that it'll get their point across without any spin necessary!!!
@@YouWillNeverKnow The issue is that conservatives never have the facts on their side so they have to fabricate a reality.
It's quite crazy, really.
TFL Truck did a similar test with an RV trailer side by side with a Sierra Denali V8 and another identical trailer. They were in Colorado and spent a fair amount if time descending hills. They only managed 89 miles before the truck went into power saving mode. He had to limp to a charging station and plug in. Meanwhile the Denali turned around and went back to the starting point and got most of the way back before the Ford recharged enough to head back. It could have just as easily been their video that set all of this in motion.
Electric vehicles are a joke. Change my mind.
@@bernardberben4852 pick up trucks are a joke for the vast majority of people and EV's fill the requirements of most people.
@@bernardberben4852 good for commuting and drag racing, not road trips or towing
It may have been a Rivian . . . that was months ago, and the EV P/U failed. I think they were trying to get up Pike's Peak.
TFL was going for real world and honets review - Tyler exaggerated and went for click bait. That's why TFL was harder to spin.
i get the engineers at ford are mad at you for the way u had your to truck setup, but even if you did all those things wrong in an ICE engine, efficiency would not drop that severely, im sure an old 04 cummins diesel with or even 5.7 hemi wouldnt notice such heavy losses.
I don't know what's funnier, the video title or this situation hoovie got put in 🤣🤣🤣
The EV craze....
Tyler is flabbergasted 😲
@@rposton919 go back to infowars, we like facts here.
@@SpartanArmy117 lmaoo facts, everyone has loyalty to one side for some reason and just stick their head in the sand otherwise
@@SpartanArmy117 Reminds me of a Tom MacDonald song. But yeah, I agree 💯!!!
My cousin is a master mechanic and loves Ford. He drove his lightning from Indiana to Florida and said it was the worst trip of his life. He was so stressed out trying to make it to each charge station. Half the time he had to travel with his hazards on and drive 45 m.p.h.!!
Was he towing with the lightning, to drive so slow and worried to make it? or just the charging that far apart? ABetterRoutePlanner says a Rivian (similar) should make it ok, 3-4hrs total charging over 1200 miles (about every 2-3hrs/150-200miles, that's about right), 17hrs driving, $122. 20% delay for charging. No speed restrictions.
CCS fast chargers are not at the same level as Tesla superchargers, yet, hope the IRA bill can help push that.
@@cgamiga he wasn't towing anything.
@@adamlewis3145 What was so stressful? I don't understand, even with the small battery there are plenty of chargers to make that route without a lot of stress.
@@tazeat remember her cousin said 😂😂😂
@@tazeat the whole point of the video is that Ford is lying about how far it can go on a charge. My comment was backing up, with a true story, that their clearly is an issue with how far it can actually travel, in the real world.... on an actual trip. ( I can spend 5 seconds to Google the numbers too: )
In a world full of lies and overall dishonesty, Tyler told the honest truth and that is a refreshing thing for the majority of people(except for the ones who cannot handle the truth as they are so accustomed to being lied to). Please don’t ever stop or change what you’re doing Hoovie, we love the content you bring us because it doesn’t come with a hidden agenda~
That's true. He is one of them though, there is no need to say it's a "war with conservatives". Jones clearly got a mixed bag of info from someone who doesn't even know the difference between Hoovie and TF mixing it all up. "Get me all the negative stuff about this on the youtoobs!" ... but why fixate on that, just set it straight and laugh about it.
As a side note, I actually clicked the video just to unsub when I saw the divisive title, only to find out that I consistently get his notifications without being subbed, instead of the channels I actually sub to... don't have to go very far to find that dishonesty and lies with this company.
@@nameless-og 100% correct. What is Tyler scared of? A so-called "conservative" website having an opinion about his video? And I'm not talking about AJ, he just likes hearing himself talk.
Its real easy to see what Tyler is scared of - being cast as a partisan by either side, reducing his audience, and his future projects. Conservative sites cast him as 'telling the truth about how bad EVs are' and some who are disgusted by people like Alex Jones decide no longer to watch his videos (or buy his merchandise). Then, he has to 'correct' the record, and several people think he is a turncoat, and also unsubscribe. You can scroll through these comments and see some people are calling him a sellout for this, or saying he misrepresented, and all the dude wants to do play with cars. And the last thing he wants is to have FoMoCo mad at him, especially since he has some pretty examples of their work, including the Lightning....
@@davidtimmerman3368 That's what's wrong with this world today. If you worry about getting canceled, then you're not really being honest. Who cares what Alex Jones or Ford thinks? Who cares what their fans think? They can make their own videos (we already know what Ford's video would NOT show). Tyler's original video was not political, but he made this video political for no good reason.
@@davidtimmerman3368 He made this video to try n minimize the damage because it's well known that TH-cam punishes conservative content creators or any who don't go with their agenda and talk about things they don't approve. Even if you mention certain things like china. I know of several car creators who won't use the word gun even if it's in reference to a tool. It will hurt his channel long term no doubt about it.
So basically the EV is terrible and can't tow and people being mad about petrol/diesel trucks being banned is a bad thing?
Interesting.
Hoovie, for your next towing test you should take a V.W. Beetle and tow the Model-T to compare:)
Brilliant comment
Lol yess
You have one job, Tyler.
A VW may do better except the hitch on a bug is bolted to the engine I had a bug with one it pulled a small boat very well .
I loved my diesel beetle. Got almost 50 mpg. Was insane. Took that thing through snowstorms, only problem it ever had was vampiric battery drain.
Right there with you. I'm the type of person never paid more then 1500 bucks for a car, I look at these brand new 2022s and think, I can't wait to pick one of these up 15yrs from now for a thousand bucks... But will they survive? All these modules and screens still gonna work 15 yrs from now? I dunno man.
I'm with you here. I enjoy buying bangers and seeing how long they last. But by the time these new cars depreciate to the point I'm able to afford one, I suspect they'll have all sorts of problems with batteries, modules, and other electrical problems.
No they won't there disposable, there made to shit the bed so u gotta buy a new one
@@ah-yp6vp The school system failed you. They are responsible for not teaching you their teachers grammar lessons there. 😂
In 15 years we will all be walking .if the crazy people get there Way. Because after all these EVs blow up there battery from over charging and burn's down your house or shop it going to devastate the car industry or god for bid a sun flare hits the Earth and nothing works because we went to electric every thing. People just don't know how valiant the world really is besides if no gas no other stuff either will be made with by products that you get from fossil fuels like life saving plastic like IV's and six thousand other products your will still get them but it will cost 10.20.50. present more to make because all the gas they got to separate from the oils. No more phones either six percent of a phone is made up of these products. Talking about shooting your self in the foot here we go.
I'm pretty sure you're going to be able to buy used ICE vehicles pretty much forever. They're banning the sale of NEW passenger ICE cars, nothing more. But I also think that all this new-fangled electronic tech will become old hat in a few decades, and there will be plenty of companies selling rebuilt modules and batteries at very fair prices, with lots of mechanics who know how to work on them. Just like you can still go online and buy a Model A carburetor.
Your honesty around this whole deal is refreshing!! Your real world test is a good eye opener for the EV world.
Thank you for calling him out!!
calling who out?
Well ... Hoovie did go over 25MPH or even Twenty-Something!
Still, EVs have some odd limitations. Just ask Deutschland!
They were warned.
Honesty? The only thing he got jones on was that he went 20mph faster. Other than that jones called it like he saw it in the video. It’s a garbage vehicle that can’t perform like other trucks. These ev’s cause more pollution than your fossil fuel burning vehicles that emit carbon which is the base of all life on earth. You people living in the matrix are brain dead.
*I am a proud straight white male.*
Honesty? Dude is trying to cover for ford since so many people realize the limitations of the technology/manufacturers design. It’s a shitter
So, a low range Ford truck represents the entire EV world? There's nothing else out there??? That's news to me...
I’m curious where you get/got your money to fund
his candy land garage?
Try doing this in California.
You would go broke just in fees and tax before your season was over
But good honest reporting
Love the fact that you gave a realistic review of this truck. Guess what, this is the real world is and that's how lots of people would use this vehicle.
Only an IDIOT would think the FIRST generations of a new type would be even remotely useful for towing or hauling. Those folks FAILED at Science and Math classes obviously. Even the gas/diesel engine versions WARN you that TOWING WILL REDUCE EFFECTIVE FUEL RANGE!!! Its in the fucking MANUAL!! I'm SURE the EV one has it CLEARLY Stated too!!
This is an opportunity for Tyler to re-do his initial video, but with the Ford towing profile optimized for it that the EV rep mentioned and the drop hitch for a level load. Let's see how much of a difference it really makes!
@@ironymatt you're missing the point. Real world usage mean that people will hook up the truck with the trailer leaning one way or the other, they're going to drive by it at 65-75 mph and if you're in the Northwoods, like I am, there's going to be freezing cold weather, heater running, wipers running, etc. I don't have time to way for a truck to charge for hours on my way to a job and I'm not going to ask my customer if I can charge my vehicle once I'm there.
@@ironymatt are you slow? Ofcourse it’ll have better range in perfect perfect conditions but majority of people aren’t goin to hitch it up perfectly like that. Why would you even get this thing when something half the price can tow a heavier load for further and more efficiently. You sound like a ford shill
@@andrewfletcher5584 I agree with everything you said except that I missed the point. I want to see what difference a repeat would make, but that doesn't mean I'm unaware of how it'll be used the vast majority of the time. Could it be that you missed *my* point?
Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
That is exactly one of the reasons why I don’t watch any news anymore. Neither left nor right. They all turn things around to their likings. Great job Hoovie.
The sites Tyler was scooped by are not news. There are great sources available.
True, but the left is using our money to buy votes, and literally throwing away our money, so screw them more
When news is 24 hours a day they have to fill it up with something. Glad I got rid of my tv.
while technically true, one does it far more than the other. Also Alex Jones' track record is pretty good. He's been right more than wrong.
@@Sanctifires HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
EV just makes zero sense right now. The technology just isn't there. I'll keep my gas powered vehicles as long as i possibly can.
You don’t have to apologize You showed the truth, doesn’t matter if Who covers it
Would like to see nasa go to the moon on an electric rocket,,,if they make it back with 20 percent left ,,maybe then I will buy a whole fleet of trucks ,,laughable
It does matter because misinformation is a thing. Like the guy said, they took his "truth" and spinned it to create lies and bash the government.
Sorry Hoovie but we love to watch failure. But we also love how you overcome failure. Thanks for the great content! Keep it coming.
You know you made it big when you get featured on InfoWars 😂
It’s the equivalent of Weird Al covering one of your songs. Ask the rapper Chamillionire.
A taste of sewer life…
I didn't know what info wars was until this. Yeah and I don't think I'll ever watch info wars as this channel has way better content to offer 😀
@@cmgtbone Alex Jones flat out ridiculously lying about what’s in the video is about the most honest he’s ever been.
Or become the conspiracy theory 🤣
What about the heater? Could that put more dran on the battery? And what if say it's a cold rainy night with wipers on lights on heat on GPS on charging phone rear window defrost on. What would the range be in this scenario?
Brilliant you are not wrong ✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅✅Merry Christmas 🎄
Sensationalism is the issue Hoovie. It breeds more sensationalism. Not everyone is smart enough to analyze and think for themselves. MOST are too lazy to get ALL the information before flying off the handle. They love the clickbait. Eat it like cotton candy. It’s actually not a good thing. But it does make more than a few people rich. You know? 😊
I don’t think you can all Alex jones “conservative media”, more like “conspiracy media”.
@@johnlincoln4616 Not every conservative is an Alex Jones viewer but every Alex Jones viewer is conservative
@@johnlincoln4616 I wish that were true. Too many times has this yelling ape been right and too many times has he brought true conspiracies to the light. The times every other democratic media outlet could dismiss him as "fake news" is over.
@@johnlincoln4616 "Idiot" media. Alex Jones stopped doing conspiracy stuff a long time ago. Now he is all about selling Q shit and his supplements and shit to pay for his massive lawsuits.
Conspiracy's never unfold into Truth. Most of the stuff Alex says comes to fruition. Now where's the conspiracy factor? He didn't lie, that truck is not a truck, it's a city crawler
We all(hopefully) really appreciate the amount of transparency you have in your videos. Nothing better than being straight to the point and sticking to facts. Keep it up.
Some people make mountains out of molehills.
Alex Jones makes a whole different planet.
Alex Jones also makes chocolate rain
Alex Jones makes a whole separate reality for himself. Weapons-Grade narcissism is a virus among these people
But he’s right waaaaaaaaay more than he’s wrong on those whole different planets
Good to see you here
I know like the New York Times who lied about wmd (just one example) to get us into a war that lasted twenty years and cost 10s of thousands of lives! But the stuff Alex Jones says is definitely worse!
Thanks for being clear about this. Watching Alex lie so confidently was mind-blowing.
Hoovie im proud of you. You handled this like a King.
Did he? Ford.prob threatened him haha so he had to say some good things about the pos truck
He looks like a soyboy tho... He might have money to buy these exotic cars and what not, but looks like a beta.
um not really. Tyler looks like he is afraid of losing his contracts with Discovery and other sponsors.
@@danoldduck5835 sure. Ford sucks. I’d never buy anything from them or support them.
*I am a proud straight white male.*
Tyler providing commentary of an Alex Jones video in which Alex Jones is providing commentary on a video Tyler produced is the full circle I never expected to see today
Hoovie-ception!
I follow Hoovie since the towing days with the Mercedes. Also the other Mercedes that was stolen and towed in the bushes. Also towing the hoopties. Best TOWING TESTING CHANNEL EVER
I think i followed after that video too, forgot about that :P
The stolen one that ended in the bushes was the one that brought me here too
Glad you all also here for the towing experiences 🙏
I am a HVAC contractor and your video did actually change my mind about buying one. Since in PA we have 6 months of freezing weather could you do your test again with the heater on on a 20 degree day. We load our trucks to almost max and because we stop and go several times a day the heater is always on during winter. Most trades operate like this. For us this is just another tool but it has become so full of bullshit from both sides it is impossible to make a solid decision.
The people who are coming at you for being honest are not the people you want to be impressing.
Anyway, congrats on all your new subscribers and views.
*I am a proud straight white male.*
PLEASE load this thing down to capacity and test the range!!!!
About 35 miles fully loaded. If you're lucky.
I don't expect it to be nearly as bad. As he said, the main issue was the thing he was towing was basically as boxy as possible and the trailer itself was tapered funny. Weight does lower range more than gas, but towing is vastly worse.
Think bad aero not weight for worst case towing experience.
Towing a small camper travel trailer less than 4000 pounds would have even more wind resistance than the trailer and car would. I would like to see it tow at full capacity as well. Maybe a comparison between the light camper travel trailer and a max capacity camper with equal wind resistance.
No matter how you slice it, it will never compare to a gas-powered vehicle, save maybe a mini nuclear reactor or something like that for a battery. A gas-powered vehicle could tow that trailer upside down dragging it with a load of bricks on top for 200 or or more miles until it was ground down to nothing, and when you run out of gas, simply refill it in about 3 minutes then you're ready to drag that electric vehicle upside down until it is ground to nothing.
I'm still waiting for him to put the trailer on the model T truck and pull the lightening
That would be awesome! And probably would have greater range
8k+ lb trailer behind that model T would be equally painful lol.
No wonder why Jones got his ass sued off. it's obvious that Jones doesn't know shit. I have told people over and over that that battery technology is not quite there yet. and that is holding back EVs at this point in time. maybe sometime in the future battery technology will improve. but right that's where it stands. but people don't want to listen to me and that's their problem. TFL did a test on the Lightning on a steep mountain pass in Colorado. with a much heavier load and it was very impressive. but if a person is going to want to drive across Country. it simply can't be done yet and this is the same for All EVs.