This is one of the best videos on the Abxylute I've seen, so congrats. This thing has become my favorite in-home streaming device because of the size and quality of the screen, quality of the Wi-Fi connection and general feel of the controls - and I say this compared to the G Cloud, Steam Deck, ROG Ally and Ayn Loki. The sticks aren't great for shooters that require precision aiming, but for everything else they're fantastic. If you want light, compact and 7" screen for Moonlight/Steam Link there's nothing better at the moment.
Streaming high end emulation and PC games is a VERY cost effective option. Streaming to an RP3+, the ABXYLUTE, or even just a powerful smart phone with a good controller can be an amazing experience. I have found it also has the added bonus side effect of centralizing your game saves. If you stream all your games from the same system, then all your saves will be there. You could also build a lighter duty gaming PC that's maybe $300-500 and ONLY runs 1080p. Then you can port all your games and emulators into steam or retro-bat, or launchbox and make everything a nice arcade style front end. I personally use a combination of Launchbox, Parsec, and a collection of emulators, roms, and PC games to make a rather enjoyable experience.
Yes definitely! It's a WAY better experience playing Wii or Switch or PS3 upscaled to 1080p on a computer that can actually handle it. The latency is a non-issue because it works so well locally. No reason to buy super expensive emulation devices if you mostly play in your own home.
Is the rp3+ worth it? I heard the triggers were digital which would compromise certain games like racing games ... No latitude of analog speed control...
Lets get things right, this product was announced months before the G Cloud was even announced so the G Cloud is the Competitor to the ABXY and not the other way around lol
@@aynrandom3004Actually was a serious question, for example in Catalan the X has a "CH" sound and the D sounds like a T when it's used at the end of a word.
I'm not so sure it's pronounced 'absolute' but if it is, xyster comes to mind. I guess it'd sound more like "abzilute" but it still tracks for me. ancient greek origin. @@glennshoemake4200
I was thinking about how much this looks like a Logitech G Cloud. I received confirmation that this device is basically the same. I took a chance and ordered the Odin 2 because i like the fact that it's basically an Android phone with controlers. So not only can I emulate, I can play Android games on the go and get a lot of games of of my actual phone. As usual, great review.
I actually have a modded Switch running on Lineage OS just for local/cloud streaming purposes. But with the amount of time I spent to set it all up, plus not to mention the total cost of the entire project (Second hand Switch Lite + SD Card + Modification services) , I'd say the Abxylute is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remote play device you can get. It has a better screen and battery life than the switch lite, and I also think its form factor is a great selling point. I'd absolutely grab this device in the near future.
I was looking into the G-Cloud for streaming from my (headless) gaming PC, but the Abxylute is definitely a good alternative, considering the price. I definitely prefer Moonlight to Steam Link due to latency issues I still experience on the latter app, even with my Steam Deck. Combined with Sunshine, I can broadcast to as many screens as I want, as long as I have CPU cores to spare. Great video, as always.
I completely agree with you on this. I don't do any streaming using GeForce Now or Xcloud or anything like, that but streaming locally means that when I'm playing a real-time game (like Diablo IV), I don't have to worry about whether i'm going to need to switch devices during my session. I use this device's more expensive direct competitor (bought it on sale) but it irks me that mine doesn't have hall sticks yet this one does and is cheaper. The Steam Deck works just as well but the screen is not as good. The ROG ally also works and has a great screen but, because it's running Windows, it still burns through the battery way, way sooner than this thing will. Edit: One more thing. If Steam Link works that well for you, that's great. For my part I find that I get significantly better performance using Moonlight. Supposedly it's no longer officially supported by Nvidia but I stream from a Windows 10 computer using a GTX1080 and... well, so far so good!
Don't feel like you're missing out on the sticks. I think the sticks on the G Cloud are better than these even though these are hall sticks. I've tried moonlight vs steam link in the past and I don't see any difference. I prefer the native app options on Steam Link. One thing moonlight does that steam link doesn't is automatically detect your games from other launchers, so it saves having to set up custom non-steam games.
@@TechDweeb I don't bother with launching individual games directly using Moonlight. It's more trouble than it's worth. For multiple reasons, it's far more simple and effective to map to the game launchers themselves (Epic, EA, Steam) and then launch the games from their respective launchers. Also, the touch pad mode works great with Moonlight so I just combine that with having the accessibility (on-screen) keyboard parked as an application on my task bar and that lets me do everything I need to. Anyway, I agree that Steam Link's native app options are a significant consideration so if you don't see a performance difference then you should definitely stick with it.
Man I bought a Steam Deck and it has an issue that makes it crash constantly on demanding 3D games (Can't do RMA) and I was so frustrated with it for a long time, but since some time ago I've been streaming those 3D games and using it for emulation and 2D games locally and man the experience is awesome, as you said the ability to stream this heavy games with great quality to the handheld is incredible and not to mention the great battery life, overall now I'm at peace with it.
I have an Android tablet with Super AMOLED screen, I put it on a flexible mount to hang before my face, and I control the Moonlight stream with a bluetooth controller. I am lying, my arm is stretched out relaxed, and the image quality is superb.
Yes actually! You can use Steam Link to stream games from your home PC to any mobile device (I tried it on my Abxylute using a tethered phone connection). The quality will be a little better than cloud streaming because your home internet bandwidth can give you higher bitrate video than the cloud servers.
I'm beyond happy that cloud gaming is finally catching on for people. I've been a huge supporter since the days of Stadia, and things have come a LONG way. GeForce Now is my only go-to cloud service, but I've tried others. Great video. I think I'll be picking one up soon.
I love the abixilute, its so fun! In all seriousness, Its really good value. It's super ergonomic, and I love mine. I usually stream xbox game pass and steam link, mostly xbox gamepass because I still barely find a use for steam link because pc controls are better. Playing starfield has never felt better, and I will forever sell my soul to this little screen with controls and tech.
I was about to say that ui is what's on the G Cloud. Also the G Cloud is the most comfortable handheld I've ever used. Sad to hear they missed that with this.
@TechDweeb the 4gb file limit was a pain to get around. With some serious tweaking I could get a few ps2 and a fair amount of GameCube working. I also used Daijisho as my front-end. Battery life was the best also.
Not a bad price point for what it does. For someone like me who has an PS5, but also has an Xbox One with gamepass. This looks to be more versatile for game streaming than say the PlayStation portal which is very limited. I like added android functions here and the screen size for console gaming for when im away from the TV. Lite emulation is a nice bonus with this chipset but definitely not the level of performance I would get out of my RP3+.
I don't get it. I look it up on its original store and it's 200+ USD, so where is the 70 USD price point? your amazon link leads to the amazon homepage. am I missing something?
It's very interesting as a device - I can't decide whether I want a Steam Deck more or less than the Abxylute though. I have a desktop (5900x, rtx3070, 64gb, 2tb NVME) and I have an HTPC (3700x, rtx4060 which I won from Nvidia, 16gb, 1.25tb NVME) for gaming in the living room. I also have a laptop (5800h, rtx3060, 24gb, 1.5tb NVME). My Steam library is well populated with older games I still want to play, as well as Epic, EA, Ubisoft launcher games. I travel for work a fair bit, and sometimes when away I just want to pick up a game without all the fiddling, and to maximise battery by lowering power draw & temps ... probably games like Fallout 3/NV, Disco Elysium, Civilisation VI, Quake 2 (remaster) etc. I think I want the Steam Deck a little bit more due to being fully independent, but I can really see loving the Abxylute as an at-home device for playing local-streaming from my desktop when the entire family is watching something together on the TV that I'm mildly interested in (but would rather dual screen).
I suppose it’s a question about what you care most about. In favor of the Steam Deck, it may save electricity because you’re not running your full PC, it would be more reliable when traveling because high-speed internet is not always available on the go (as TechDweeb spoke about his Starlink internet), and of course there’s the whole novelty aspect. Lastly, the Steam Deck is also more versatile, with a large community around it as benefitting the popular “winning team,” and people are constantly plumbing the depths of the hardware’s capabilities and accessories, and it’s already proven for a year that it has staying power with first party support. On the other hand, the Abxylute is a purpose-built device with its hardware carefully selected for streaming. The screen does color better, the sticks, triggers, and battery will be more durable, and that durability might actually matter because the Abxylute might outlast a few Desktop PC upgrades. The Steam Deck was released in February 2022, and already people are clamoring for a better screen, better processor, longer lasting battery, eGPU support, a smaller enclosure that is easier to fit in travel luggage/messenger bag, while the Abxylute has double to quadruple the battery runtime (That 8hr quote is probably more reliable, as the Steam Deck’s runtime varies based on the demands of the game) and the frame rate/graphics quality can be upgraded as easily as upgrading your PC. I think the Steam Deck is really cool - more of a “console” or “toy to tinker with,” if you know what I mean - but considering the gear you have already I would get the Abxylute if I was you. You already have a powerful laptop for travel; it’s hard for me to imagine a situation where you could use the Steam Deck where you couldn’t have the better experience on your laptop 🤷♂ Meanwhile, your desktop/htpc gear is only current or one generation old, it’s hard for me to imagine that you would not quickly wish the Steam Deck was more powerful. If streaming interests you at all, you should [download Moonlink on your phone/tablet and see if you like streaming with a controller to try before you buy, then…] seriously consider a lightweight 8hr streaming handheld that would give you full-fat graphics settings/framerates. However, if you were ME, where I don’t own a “current” gaming PC and I just use a Mac Mini dedicated for work and consoles (like PS5) for playing games, you could make a strong argument that a Steam Deck or similar handheld gaming PC would provide me with access to gaming I wouldn’t have otherwise.
I think the XY is pronounced like a Z. Happens sometimes in english. At least that is what google told me. So it should be abzolute to sound like absolute. I think it was just a bit you were doing but I had to comment to let my brain be at ease because my OCD is acting up again.
@@TechDweeb Thank you for replying. I wanted to say, I think your videos are awesome and I would love to see you do a video on the r36s handheld! Thanks again!
@13:18 gave me faith that TechDweeb really did know what AbxyLute was going for with their name. In the audio world, there’s a company called Audeze, which is pronounced “Odyssey.” You can probably guess what “Schiit Audio” sounds like (the brand name, though the products sound pretty good, heheh). It’s very interesting to see TechDweeb review what essentially amounts to an external display and controller. Though this is wireless, I would be curious to also see TD explore a wired option like the XReal Air mixed-reality glasses, and other video glasses that ought to come out in the future. Anyway, good video, thanks for sharing your thoughts about toys I can’t quite afford yet!
Another great device for pc steaming is just a modded switch. I have some beefy joycons to mimic a full size controller but it still ends up being much lighter and more comfortable for long sessions than the steam deck and it can stream any pc game through moonlight with just a little bit of setup
Hey bro. I love your all white desk set up, the white dice 🎲 , the white portable gaming devices, keyboard, white robot, white plant and lastly your white pc. Very beautiful pleasant to the eyes. Like alway great video bro. 🤓
Feels like such a mis step to use switch sticks on suck a large device trying to compete with the g cloud which already has a super niche market. Definitely hard to see who this device is for
Several month later, how do you feel this holds up against the Logitech G Cloud? I know the Logitech is more expensive, but you can get used ones for $200 now, so I'm thinking a used G Cloud wins over a new Abyxlute. What do you think?
@@TechDweeb thank you my man,I’ll playing my Xbox and ps5 games through it.i know you said for the g cloud it runs your pc great any idea about consoles ?
I'm torn between this or a retroid 3+ metal version. Seems like analog joy sticks, battery, and screen size are better here, but retroid is better for emulation... No easy choices...
when a device reaches a certain screen size, not having full-sized analog sticks just defies logic. nobody is wanting to put this thing in their pocket.
In a span of 2 months I had 2 units both defective and I’m shipping it out again for a full refund both units couldn’t stay on for not even 3 mins or less than that it would just keep restarting even with a charged battery. Also the problem with this thing is it’s from china for me it took maybe almost 3 weeks to get mines each time customer support has been helpful throughout the emails but 2x in a row isn’t justified for a 3rd time replacement
is there a way to turn on the pc and start using a steam streaming device without even touch the pc keyboard or the mouse (and without turn on the pc display)?
Yes. There is a protocol called WakeOnLan where you can wake a computer using a magic packet over a network. I use this to wake my PC when I'm away from home. You could use that to wake a PC and then start streaming without touching the device.
Love the way you keep up the joke of the name. “Xy” as in xylophone for those who didn’t know, so absolute (ab zy lute). It’s a decent console that can actually run a fair amount of local games and emulators as well. Would have been nice to have a bit more grunt to run all PSP games though. I still think the Odin 2 is the better option for streaming and emulation in the same console even with the smaller screen. It’s not much more money, either.
Not quite. Smaller screen, heavier, and more expensive. It's better in most ways and a great choice but I can see this being more appealing for someone who only cared about streaming and had a specific budget to stick to.
Until this video, I didn't realize that Steam Link was purely software and not dongle like Chromecast and suchlike. Not that this knowledge helps me much since my phone is kinda crap, being long and thin, but it's still nice to know. And who knows? Maybe someday I'll have a tablet or something to make this knowledge actually useful. :P
Your confusion is warranted. There is a physical Steam Link product that basically acts like a steam streaming chromecast. But there's also a software version you can run on any device.
If I had a “pc master race” super powerful gaming machine, I would pick this Abxylute to stream. Other scenario, the one that’s true for my situation, I would use a Steam Deck or other independent handheld because I don’t play games on my PC (I have a Mac). I sort of have a halfway solution right now… yes, I have an M2 Pro Mac Mini, but I have a PS5 and Anbernic RG505. I kinda wish I had the Retroid Pocket R2S or Flip instead, with analog triggers and HDMI/Bluetooth for an ad-hoc co-op gaming machine at a friend’s house, BUT my current handheld is theoretically pretty great for streaming most games from my PS5 (I haven’t tried it, but I imagine racing games and some of the puzzles in Spiderman 2 would be hard to beat with digital triggers) and it can natively/independently play years of retro gaming content on emulators and Android games.
This isn't bad at all! Got a question though, are they going to release an update for video out like the G-Cloud? The omission of video out is a big bummer imo.
That’s probably one of those things where even if maybe they could add it in the future, Abxylute wouldn’t talk about it unless they felt they intended to do it and could do it in the near future. I admit the thought hadn’t occurred to me though; the handheld is already a video output, if I wanted a big screen output I would just use the PC itself… and if I wanted to play on TV, there are tons of cheaper AndroidTV options out there that could do Steam Link or Moonlight (I actually have a NVIDIA Shield). I mean, lots of features and options is cool, and it is interesting that the G-Cloud added that feature (I’d like to try it with XR video glasses!), but if a Roku could do the same thing for less than the price difference between the Abxylute and G-Cloud, then I think it’s not a big detractor. Just a purpose-built device!
It is a shame that the general retro game handheld market is just now catching up to the Gpd XD from 2014 ... Except the GPD XD has a much nicer form factor (it stole the form factor of the Nintendo 3ds xl) and is more powerful (I mainly use it for Minecraft and Terraria)
It was quick for me, but they knew they were sending it to a youtuber, so I can't say for sure. According to their website "Under normal circumstances, we aim to process and dispatch orders within 1-3 working days. Delivery times vary based on the region and typically range from 5-20 working days."
I personally am Not into game rentals. Even when Blockbuster Video was around. I never personally enjoyed Game rentals. I always preferred to own my games. That way, I could play them anytime I wanted to. Without a return date or late fee. I bring that up because, playing "cloud" games aka, someone else owns your games and can take them from you anytime they want and don't have to refund you. Local streaming is cool. I am cool with local streaming, provided you have the money to buy and assemble a PC capable of playing the games you want to stream. This for me is a fail outside of the screen. Nice screen.
I follow you. I’m actually in that situation, because I have a Mac and no gaming PC (and just a seasonal job while hunting for something that pays well). I would add that I like to compartmentalize work and play on different devices so I’m not tempted to lose productivity. However, I could see a hardcore PC gaming enthusiast getting a lot out of this, maybe even more than a Steam Deck. Because unlike a Steam Deck, you can upgrade a desktop PC’s components over time (and stream it to a lite client handheld like this Abxylute). Even if you could upgrade the performance of the handheld (like a RoG Ally with an eGPU), it’s more optimal performance & cost to just upgrade your “main system,” and use a streaming accessory for the “sometimes” you feel like gaming away from your best setup.
Shook Here, first off I love your charter. But maybe get some nasal spray? lol I have a idea for you, i'm not a rich guy or anything but maybe do a show for Christmas about the best systems at price points. like for instance this is the best one for $50.00, and this is the best one for a $100.00 and so on. Well have a great day. Love tour show!
I am very interested in this. The Ally is a bit heavy for long plays, and my desktop can handle anything I throw at it, so something light like this is cool. My big question to you is what is your local network setup? Are you using Wi-Fi 5 or 6? Maybe 6e? Does your router have good bandwidth?
My local network isn't great. I am limited by a 50mb ethernet-to-coax adapter setup (my house was already wired for coax). I'm connected over the 5ghz connection, but it's limited to 50 megabit, and it still works amazing.
1080p60 is incredibly easy to achieve and even an old 2.4ghz router will do provided good signal strength. You're looking at 20-30mbit/s. Nothing fancy.
Peace and blessings. Swa this handheld device on Amazon. Decided to watch this video on your channel. Thank your. Doesn't sound like a good recommendation. Agree?
@@TechDweeb yes and it's fine when your in your own place , but then I could just put my computer on and have a better experience on a bigger screen , over WiFi while out , steaming sucks so I really don't see a benefit to a portable device that only works best In your own home , just get a steam deck or Rog ally or other handhand where it's locally on the system if you want a real portable experience
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In case it wasn't clear; the Abxylute's name is based on the letter of (non-PlayStation) controller buttons.
Can you imagine the monstrosity that would be created if they based it on PlayStation buttons!?
@@TechDweeb That’s abxylutely right, the puzzle piece goes in the square hole!
I actually never knew that
This is one of the best videos on the Abxylute I've seen, so congrats. This thing has become my favorite in-home streaming device because of the size and quality of the screen, quality of the Wi-Fi connection and general feel of the controls - and I say this compared to the G Cloud, Steam Deck, ROG Ally and Ayn Loki. The sticks aren't great for shooters that require precision aiming, but for everything else they're fantastic. If you want light, compact and 7" screen for Moonlight/Steam Link there's nothing better at the moment.
Agreed. Nothing beats it at this price.
Streaming high end emulation and PC games is a VERY cost effective option. Streaming to an RP3+, the ABXYLUTE, or even just a powerful smart phone with a good controller can be an amazing experience. I have found it also has the added bonus side effect of centralizing your game saves. If you stream all your games from the same system, then all your saves will be there. You could also build a lighter duty gaming PC that's maybe $300-500 and ONLY runs 1080p. Then you can port all your games and emulators into steam or retro-bat, or launchbox and make everything a nice arcade style front end. I personally use a combination of Launchbox, Parsec, and a collection of emulators, roms, and PC games to make a rather enjoyable experience.
Yes definitely! It's a WAY better experience playing Wii or Switch or PS3 upscaled to 1080p on a computer that can actually handle it. The latency is a non-issue because it works so well locally. No reason to buy super expensive emulation devices if you mostly play in your own home.
@@TechDweeb maybe you can do a video as described by greenprotag?
Is the rp3+ worth it? I heard the triggers were digital which would compromise certain games like racing games ... No latitude of analog speed control...
Starting the new month with a TechDweeb vid, It's a good start !
I like that you are quite serious about the products. Even if it's handled with humor.
Lets get things right, this product was announced months before the G Cloud was even announced so the G Cloud is the Competitor to the ABXY and not the other way around lol
Fair enough. I literally just bought a white one. I just couldn't justify paying more for the Logitech.
I think its'a pronounced "Absolute". As usual great and informative video. Love this channel.
In what language does the X have an S sound and the Y have an O sound? I think Techdweeb pronounced it correctly.
@@glennshoemake4200 not sure if trolling but common sense dictates that this is just sylized logo.
@@aynrandom3004Actually was a serious question, for example in Catalan the X has a "CH" sound and the D sounds like a T when it's used at the end of a word.
@@glennshoemake4200I would pronounce it similar to how Xylophone is pronounced. X is pronounced similar to S in a lot of english words.
I'm not so sure it's pronounced 'absolute' but if it is, xyster comes to mind. I guess it'd sound more like "abzilute" but it still tracks for me. ancient greek origin. @@glennshoemake4200
I was thinking about how much this looks like a Logitech G Cloud. I received confirmation that this device is basically the same. I took a chance and ordered the Odin 2 because i like the fact that it's basically an Android phone with controlers. So not only can I emulate, I can play Android games on the go and get a lot of games of of my actual phone.
As usual, great review.
All I want is full size thumb sticks and back buttons and I would 100% buy.
If I didn't have a Logitech GCloud, this would be a must purchase.
I actually have a modded Switch running on Lineage OS just for local/cloud streaming purposes. But with the amount of time I spent to set it all up, plus not to mention the total cost of the entire project (Second hand Switch Lite + SD Card + Modification services) , I'd say the Abxylute is one of the best bang-for-the-buck remote play device you can get. It has a better screen and battery life than the switch lite, and I also think its form factor is a great selling point.
I'd absolutely grab this device in the near future.
Why wouldn’t you pick up a PlayStation Portal?
I was looking into the G-Cloud for streaming from my (headless) gaming PC, but the Abxylute is definitely a good alternative, considering the price. I definitely prefer Moonlight to Steam Link due to latency issues I still experience on the latter app, even with my Steam Deck. Combined with Sunshine, I can broadcast to as many screens as I want, as long as I have CPU cores to spare.
Great video, as always.
I completely agree with you on this. I don't do any streaming using GeForce Now or Xcloud or anything like, that but streaming locally means that when I'm playing a real-time game (like Diablo IV), I don't have to worry about whether i'm going to need to switch devices during my session.
I use this device's more expensive direct competitor (bought it on sale) but it irks me that mine doesn't have hall sticks yet this one does and is cheaper.
The Steam Deck works just as well but the screen is not as good. The ROG ally also works and has a great screen but, because it's running Windows, it still burns through the battery way, way sooner than this thing will.
Edit: One more thing. If Steam Link works that well for you, that's great. For my part I find that I get significantly better performance using Moonlight. Supposedly it's no longer officially supported by Nvidia but I stream from a Windows 10 computer using a GTX1080 and... well, so far so good!
Don't feel like you're missing out on the sticks. I think the sticks on the G Cloud are better than these even though these are hall sticks.
I've tried moonlight vs steam link in the past and I don't see any difference. I prefer the native app options on Steam Link. One thing moonlight does that steam link doesn't is automatically detect your games from other launchers, so it saves having to set up custom non-steam games.
@@TechDweeb I don't bother with launching individual games directly using Moonlight. It's more trouble than it's worth. For multiple reasons, it's far more simple and effective to map to the game launchers themselves (Epic, EA, Steam) and then launch the games from their respective launchers. Also, the touch pad mode works great with Moonlight so I just combine that with having the accessibility (on-screen) keyboard parked as an application on my task bar and that lets me do everything I need to.
Anyway, I agree that Steam Link's native app options are a significant consideration so if you don't see a performance difference then you should definitely stick with it.
This screen, in OLED, plus Odin 2 internals and I will be literally drooling 😂
Then you be looking at prices at about steamdeck-rog ally region... Which makes buying something like that stupid 😅
Man I bought a Steam Deck and it has an issue that makes it crash constantly on demanding 3D games (Can't do RMA) and I was so frustrated with it for a long time, but since some time ago I've been streaming those 3D games and using it for emulation and 2D games locally and man the experience is awesome, as you said the ability to stream this heavy games with great quality to the handheld is incredible and not to mention the great battery life, overall now I'm at peace with it.
I have an Android tablet with Super AMOLED screen, I put it on a flexible mount to hang before my face, and I control the Moonlight stream with a bluetooth controller. I am lying, my arm is stretched out relaxed, and the image quality is superb.
Is there any way to stream from your gaming pc if you aren’t home? Is it any different from gaming on the cloud?
Yes actually! You can use Steam Link to stream games from your home PC to any mobile device (I tried it on my Abxylute using a tethered phone connection). The quality will be a little better than cloud streaming because your home internet bandwidth can give you higher bitrate video than the cloud servers.
everybody say that PS Portal is priced too high, but this one costs the same for pc….
I don't think the Portal is priced too high. I think it's a perfect price considering the quality.
@@TechDweeb me too, but we are not the majority
To be fair, the stuff I stole from the hotel was just so I can enjoy watching your videos more
All is forgiven then
Man this looks fantastic, keeping my eye out for this for sure. Thanks Dweeb!
Set your oven clock TD... it's freakin me out.
I don't know how. Do you know anyone who's into techy stuff to help me out?
I'm beyond happy that cloud gaming is finally catching on for people. I've been a huge supporter since the days of Stadia, and things have come a LONG way. GeForce Now is my only go-to cloud service, but I've tried others. Great video. I think I'll be picking one up soon.
I love the abixilute, its so fun! In all seriousness, Its really good value. It's super ergonomic, and I love mine. I usually stream xbox game pass and steam link, mostly xbox gamepass because I still barely find a use for steam link because pc controls are better. Playing starfield has never felt better, and I will forever sell my soul to this little screen with controls and tech.
Well said
I was about to say that ui is what's on the G Cloud. Also the G Cloud is the most comfortable handheld I've ever used. Sad to hear they missed that with this.
I've heard good things about the comfort of the G Cloud. I hope I can get one to test someday.
@TechDweeb the 4gb file limit was a pain to get around. With some serious tweaking I could get a few ps2 and a fair amount of GameCube working. I also used Daijisho as my front-end. Battery life was the best also.
Not a bad price point for what it does. For someone like me who has an PS5, but also has an Xbox One with gamepass. This looks to be more versatile for game streaming than say the PlayStation portal which is very limited. I like added android functions here and the screen size for console gaming for when im away from the TV. Lite emulation is a nice bonus with this chipset but definitely not the level of performance I would get out of my RP3+.
this is almost the same with my G cloud.. also software menu is the same too
you should do a video about the abxylute vs the logitech g cloud
Soldiering on with my snapdragon phone and a gamesir x2 but this actually seems nice.
I don't get it. I look it up on its original store and it's 200+ USD, so where is the 70 USD price point? your amazon link leads to the amazon homepage. am I missing something?
This isn't $70, that was the other video I have linked in the description.
It's very interesting as a device - I can't decide whether I want a Steam Deck more or less than the Abxylute though. I have a desktop (5900x, rtx3070, 64gb, 2tb NVME) and I have an HTPC (3700x, rtx4060 which I won from Nvidia, 16gb, 1.25tb NVME) for gaming in the living room. I also have a laptop (5800h, rtx3060, 24gb, 1.5tb NVME). My Steam library is well populated with older games I still want to play, as well as Epic, EA, Ubisoft launcher games. I travel for work a fair bit, and sometimes when away I just want to pick up a game without all the fiddling, and to maximise battery by lowering power draw & temps ... probably games like Fallout 3/NV, Disco Elysium, Civilisation VI, Quake 2 (remaster) etc.
I think I want the Steam Deck a little bit more due to being fully independent, but I can really see loving the Abxylute as an at-home device for playing local-streaming from my desktop when the entire family is watching something together on the TV that I'm mildly interested in (but would rather dual screen).
you'd be an idiot not to get the steam deck
I suppose it’s a question about what you care most about.
In favor of the Steam Deck, it may save electricity because you’re not running your full PC, it would be more reliable when traveling because high-speed internet is not always available on the go (as TechDweeb spoke about his Starlink internet), and of course there’s the whole novelty aspect. Lastly, the Steam Deck is also more versatile, with a large community around it as benefitting the popular “winning team,” and people are constantly plumbing the depths of the hardware’s capabilities and accessories, and it’s already proven for a year that it has staying power with first party support.
On the other hand, the Abxylute is a purpose-built device with its hardware carefully selected for streaming. The screen does color better, the sticks, triggers, and battery will be more durable, and that durability might actually matter because the Abxylute might outlast a few Desktop PC upgrades. The Steam Deck was released in February 2022, and already people are clamoring for a better screen, better processor, longer lasting battery, eGPU support, a smaller enclosure that is easier to fit in travel luggage/messenger bag, while the Abxylute has double to quadruple the battery runtime (That 8hr quote is probably more reliable, as the Steam Deck’s runtime varies based on the demands of the game) and the frame rate/graphics quality can be upgraded as easily as upgrading your PC.
I think the Steam Deck is really cool - more of a “console” or “toy to tinker with,” if you know what I mean - but considering the gear you have already I would get the Abxylute if I was you. You already have a powerful laptop for travel; it’s hard for me to imagine a situation where you could use the Steam Deck where you couldn’t have the better experience on your laptop 🤷♂ Meanwhile, your desktop/htpc gear is only current or one generation old, it’s hard for me to imagine that you would not quickly wish the Steam Deck was more powerful. If streaming interests you at all, you should [download Moonlink on your phone/tablet and see if you like streaming with a controller to try before you buy, then…] seriously consider a lightweight 8hr streaming handheld that would give you full-fat graphics settings/framerates. However, if you were ME, where I don’t own a “current” gaming PC and I just use a Mac Mini dedicated for work and consoles (like PS5) for playing games, you could make a strong argument that a Steam Deck or similar handheld gaming PC would provide me with access to gaming I wouldn’t have otherwise.
You forgot about the playstation 5 & Xbox cloud gaming.
Would liked to see cloud & local Xbox series streaming demonstration
You're the best, TechDweeb!
I think the XY is pronounced like a Z. Happens sometimes in english. At least that is what google told me. So it should be abzolute to sound like absolute. I think it was just a bit you were doing but I had to comment to let my brain be at ease because my OCD is acting up again.
Yeah I know. I put a little note in at 01:26 ;)
@@TechDweeb Thank you for replying. I wanted to say, I think your videos are awesome and I would love to see you do a video on the r36s handheld! Thanks again!
This or the RP3+?
This should only be bought if you primarily intend to stream. If not definitely go for the rp3+ because it has WAY better performance.
I loooove steam link I use it on my Deck quite a bit when I'm at home. If I didn't already own the Deck, I'd consider a peripheral like this.
@13:18 gave me faith that TechDweeb really did know what AbxyLute was going for with their name.
In the audio world, there’s a company called Audeze, which is pronounced “Odyssey.” You can probably guess what “Schiit Audio” sounds like (the brand name, though the products sound pretty good, heheh).
It’s very interesting to see TechDweeb review what essentially amounts to an external display and controller. Though this is wireless, I would be curious to also see TD explore a wired option like the XReal Air mixed-reality glasses, and other video glasses that ought to come out in the future.
Anyway, good video, thanks for sharing your thoughts about toys I can’t quite afford yet!
I would love to get my hands (eyes?) on those Xreal glasses! Maybe someday...
@@TechDweeb I’m giving you a subscribe and engagement to boost your chances of getting a review sample 😁
And the disclaimer briefly on screen at 1:28 😂
Another great device for pc steaming is just a modded switch. I have some beefy joycons to mimic a full size controller but it still ends up being much lighter and more comfortable for long sessions than the steam deck and it can stream any pc game through moonlight with just a little bit of setup
I bought the Lenovo Legion Go instead because it's a huge handheld.
omg I live in Northern Ontario that's so cool! (I'm going through your backlog).
If my pc cant run the steam game can this device though steam link? Thats the only thing stopping me from buying it?
Hey bro.
I love your all white desk set up, the white dice 🎲 , the white portable gaming devices, keyboard, white robot, white plant and lastly your white pc. Very beautiful pleasant to the eyes.
Like alway great video bro. 🤓
Feels like such a mis step to use switch sticks on suck a large device trying to compete with the g cloud which already has a super niche market. Definitely hard to see who this device is for
Yeah I'm with ya
I see the abxy buttons on it but where's the lute buttons? 🙃
(can't wait to see if anyone gets this lol)
/lutesolo
I think there has to be better options even at 200.
Several month later, how do you feel this holds up against the Logitech G Cloud? I know the Logitech is more expensive, but you can get used ones for $200 now, so I'm thinking a used G Cloud wins over a new Abyxlute. What do you think?
If this had real full sized hall effect joysticks. It would be an instant buy. But with those switch style sticks, its a big no
Adxylutely awesome!
This versus the G Cloud, I would go with the G Cloud because it does a good job of emulation.
Your videos are epic mate hope your good brother 💚 from 🇬🇧 man 💯🏆💚👊
What has better graphics…this or g cloud ?
Definitely the G-Cloud.
@@TechDweeb thank you my man,I’ll playing my Xbox and ps5 games through it.i know you said for the g cloud it runs your pc great any idea about consoles ?
I'm torn between this or a retroid 3+ metal version. Seems like analog joy sticks, battery, and screen size are better here, but retroid is better for emulation... No easy choices...
Same decision I'm trying to make now. What did you go with
I'm pretty sure my Lenovo Chromebook 2-in-1 has the same SOC. 😅 I paid $75 used.
can you stream emulation from PC? 😄
Definitely!
Im convinced tech dweeb is really Steve from sex and the city
It’s pronounced “🔺🔴❌🟥lute”, ackshually
Get out of here Playstation fanboy!
Steam Deck > AxLgbtglute
when a device reaches a certain screen size, not having full-sized analog sticks just defies logic. nobody is wanting to put this thing in their pocket.
Yeah you're not wrong.
i was ready to buy this until 9:41. even the retroid pocket 3+ can run gow slight better than that.
Oh the 3+ runs circles around this thing in terms of native performance. Definitely don't get this thing for higher end emulation!
Abxylute = Absolute.
Abxy = Nintendo buttons
In a span of 2 months I had 2 units both defective and I’m shipping it out again for a full refund both units couldn’t stay on for not even 3 mins or less than that it would just keep restarting even with a charged battery.
Also the problem with this thing is it’s from china for me it took maybe almost 3 weeks to get mines each time customer support has been helpful throughout the emails but 2x in a row isn’t justified for a 3rd time replacement
The d pad is really close to the screen!
oooohh.. sooo close.. no HDMI out.. bummer..
Why would you want HDMI out on this? Kinda defeats the point of having a portable streaming focused device no?
Maybe it's supposed to be said like "absolute"
Ab-zy-lute maybe?
is there a way to turn on the pc and start using a steam streaming device without even touch the pc keyboard or the mouse (and without turn on the pc display)?
Yes. There is a protocol called WakeOnLan where you can wake a computer using a magic packet over a network. I use this to wake my PC when I'm away from home. You could use that to wake a PC and then start streaming without touching the device.
abxylutely, I run TB Atom S21FE if I'm not using my Deck👀
Trying out a new feature here - Channel member early access to vids!
@TechDweeb Thanks for the content as always bro
What's "TB Atom S21FE"!?
The turtle beach atom is a controller while the s21FE is a phone
what kind of keyboard was that
Love the way you keep up the joke of the name. “Xy” as in xylophone for those who didn’t know, so absolute (ab zy lute). It’s a decent console that can actually run a fair amount of local games and emulators as well. Would have been nice to have a bit more grunt to run all PSP games though. I still think the Odin 2 is the better option for streaming and emulation in the same console even with the smaller screen. It’s not much more money, either.
Not a bad price either!
Is there anything like this but joy sticks on bottom?
On the bottom of the screen or simply below the dpad?
cool device. if i hadnt a odin 1 pro already, id get one.
Odin 2 is just better in everyway possibly imaginable.
Not quite. Smaller screen, heavier, and more expensive. It's better in most ways and a great choice but I can see this being more appealing for someone who only cared about streaming and had a specific budget to stick to.
Russ from RetroGameCorps said the team told him it was pronounced “absolute”
no he didn't
Even the custom launcher looks identical to that provided by logitech.
Ab zee lute?
I don't want to know the truth because Abixeelute is way funner to say.
TriCirCroSqulute is the only true competitor of abxylute
When you pronounce the X like a Z, it's Ab-zih-lute phonetically. Absolute, when said aloud.
Unless they change the layout of the sticks, I cant use that controller layout. It would cause my hands to lock up severely.
Until this video, I didn't realize that Steam Link was purely software and not dongle like Chromecast and suchlike.
Not that this knowledge helps me much since my phone is kinda crap, being long and thin, but it's still nice to know. And who knows? Maybe someday I'll have a tablet or something to make this knowledge actually useful. :P
Your confusion is warranted. There is a physical Steam Link product that basically acts like a steam streaming chromecast. But there's also a software version you can run on any device.
Ok, so, you have a Steam Deck and you have this.
Which one are you picking up to game while at home?
This believe it or not!
If I had a “pc master race” super powerful gaming machine, I would pick this Abxylute to stream.
Other scenario, the one that’s true for my situation, I would use a Steam Deck or other independent handheld because I don’t play games on my PC (I have a Mac).
I sort of have a halfway solution right now… yes, I have an M2 Pro Mac Mini, but I have a PS5 and Anbernic RG505. I kinda wish I had the Retroid Pocket R2S or Flip instead, with analog triggers and HDMI/Bluetooth for an ad-hoc co-op gaming machine at a friend’s house, BUT my current handheld is theoretically pretty great for streaming most games from my PS5 (I haven’t tried it, but I imagine racing games and some of the puzzles in Spiderman 2 would be hard to beat with digital triggers) and it can natively/independently play years of retro gaming content on emulators and Android games.
What is your best choice for handheld right now and not breaking the bank?? I need real answer
Have you been posting?
It's the same as the Logitech g cloud gaming
This isn't bad at all! Got a question though, are they going to release an update for video out like the G-Cloud? The omission of video out is a big bummer imo.
That’s probably one of those things where even if maybe they could add it in the future, Abxylute wouldn’t talk about it unless they felt they intended to do it and could do it in the near future. I admit the thought hadn’t occurred to me though; the handheld is already a video output, if I wanted a big screen output I would just use the PC itself… and if I wanted to play on TV, there are tons of cheaper AndroidTV options out there that could do Steam Link or Moonlight (I actually have a NVIDIA Shield). I mean, lots of features and options is cool, and it is interesting that the G-Cloud added that feature (I’d like to try it with XR video glasses!), but if a Roku could do the same thing for less than the price difference between the Abxylute and G-Cloud, then I think it’s not a big detractor. Just a purpose-built device!
It is a shame that the general retro game handheld market is just now catching up to the Gpd XD from 2014 ... Except the GPD XD has a much nicer form factor (it stole the form factor of the Nintendo 3ds xl) and is more powerful (I mainly use it for Minecraft and Terraria)
it should have a bigger display to justify the price
For $210 + $35 shipping + taxes, it is a hard sell.
I'm strongly thinking about buying this. How long is the shipping?
It was quick for me, but they knew they were sending it to a youtuber, so I can't say for sure. According to their website "Under normal circumstances, we aim to process and dispatch orders within 1-3 working days. Delivery times vary based on the region and typically range from 5-20 working days."
I personally am Not into game rentals. Even when Blockbuster Video was around.
I never personally enjoyed Game rentals. I always preferred to own my games. That way, I
could play them anytime I wanted to. Without a return date or late fee. I bring that up because,
playing "cloud" games aka, someone else owns your games and can take them from you anytime
they want and don't have to refund you. Local streaming is cool. I am cool with local streaming, provided
you have the money to buy and assemble a PC capable of playing the games you want to stream. This for
me is a fail outside of the screen. Nice screen.
Yeah I'm with ya there.
I follow you. I’m actually in that situation, because I have a Mac and no gaming PC (and just a seasonal job while hunting for something that pays well). I would add that I like to compartmentalize work and play on different devices so I’m not tempted to lose productivity.
However, I could see a hardcore PC gaming enthusiast getting a lot out of this, maybe even more than a Steam Deck. Because unlike a Steam Deck, you can upgrade a desktop PC’s components over time (and stream it to a lite client handheld like this Abxylute). Even if you could upgrade the performance of the handheld (like a RoG Ally with an eGPU), it’s more optimal performance & cost to just upgrade your “main system,” and use a streaming accessory for the “sometimes” you feel like gaming away from your best setup.
The name is kinda nice😅
A full-length sponsored video for a STREAMING HANDHELD? Oof
Not sponsored. They sent the product for review, I tried it and loved it, and I'm sharing my experience.
This review feels paid
Nope. I just like it.
Does it feel dishonest? I don't think he said anything wrong or misleading.
shame there’s no sim slot
😂 it's call ab" [ze] lute... abixylute lmao dude absolute is what they were going for😅
Shook Here, first off I love your charter. But maybe get some nasal spray? lol I have a idea for you, i'm not a rich guy or anything but maybe do a show for Christmas about the best systems at price points. like for instance this is the best one for $50.00, and this is the best one for a $100.00 and so on. Well have a great day. Love tour show!
That's an awesome idea!
Cool Subbed
Welcome!
I am very interested in this. The Ally is a bit heavy for long plays, and my desktop can handle anything I throw at it, so something light like this is cool.
My big question to you is what is your local network setup? Are you using Wi-Fi 5 or 6? Maybe 6e? Does your router have good bandwidth?
My local network isn't great. I am limited by a 50mb ethernet-to-coax adapter setup (my house was already wired for coax). I'm connected over the 5ghz connection, but it's limited to 50 megabit, and it still works amazing.
@@TechDweeb what kind of wireless setup do you have?
1080p60 is incredibly easy to achieve and even an old 2.4ghz router will do provided good signal strength. You're looking at 20-30mbit/s. Nothing fancy.
I pronounce it ab-zi-lute. Like absolute but with a "zee" instead of a "so" sound in the middle.1
Peace and blessings. Swa this handheld device on Amazon. Decided to watch this video on your channel. Thank your. Doesn't sound like a good recommendation. Agree?
As soon as you mentioned streaming I was out , no thanks streaming sucks
Have you tried local streaming from your PC? I love it!
@@TechDweeb yes and it's fine when your in your own place , but then I could just put my computer on and have a better experience on a bigger screen , over WiFi while out , steaming sucks so I really don't see a benefit to a portable device that only works best In your own home , just get a steam deck or Rog ally or other handhand where it's locally on the system if you want a real portable experience
A.B.X.Y. Lute