Only one way to describe the balls you've got watching this live on stream: rocket-sized. Wish you the best of luck. Biz school seems to be paying off so far! I'll have an eye on you guys in the future as well :) - LS
Asmon/Zack is one of the most honest people on twitch. If you say his company fucked up he will do everything he can to rectify it just like LTT would with the screwdriver
Linus was incredibly fair & honestly your system came out fairly unscathed. Just look to his past “Secret Shopper” series to see how bad system integrators can actually fuck up.
yeah, totally agree the secret shopper series could be a mandatory watch for each employee of starforge, would probably actually help them avoid some pitfalls/mistakes of other system integrators as for the ltt video, i would have loved to see them put the starforge customer service on test with a simulated fault like a loose ram stick or something (like they did for the secret shopper series)
@@nordnord8141 If I were him I would hire as many people as necessary and pay them whatever it took to ensure that my product, no matter how good, never made it into Steve's hands. That man can smell weakness from a mile away and he shows no mercy.
Imma be honest, I've never watched your channel before but seeing the way you handled linus' honest review of your PC, you handled it so graciously. I love that you admitted to the few mistakes and even took action to bring the issues up with the other creators. Most people would have gotten defensive about critical feedback but you took it in stride and are using it to improve your product. I can't praise you enough for how you reacted. Well done!
@@adamwest5006 problem with the this video is that he's only an investor and doesn't know much of computers himself. As far as the response from business owner goes he seems to have the right attitude.
@@caladonn2659 I like the c+b logo, if starforge is still around when I need to replace my quarantine computer, I’ll definitely consider. Actually if they just have logos I can stick on, I’d buy one
Linus spoke about how terrifying it was to watch the reviews of the screwdriver, major props to Asmon for not only going through that live on stream, but having the honesty and integrity to own the mistakes (like checking his own accessory box for the power cables and admitting the fault)
i hated asmongold for a long time for the character and who he was. but over time and seeing zach, hes a legit good fuckin guy. respect for owning it for sure.
I'm with you there 1000%, peeling the plastic film off new electronics is one of the finer things in life. I would be disappointed if I opened up my new PC only to find the plastic films had already been peeled off. It's also proof that the parts are brand new.
Damn genius 1. Gets a review from LTT that gives constructive criticism as well as points out flaws with companies product. 2. Live streams a reaction video with millions of views on top of a video already with millions of views. 3. Can now take the Review back to their company and fix the problems. 4. Gave the company a far better representation than the launch from what I gather. and a hilarious video to boot Absolutely loved it GG's 👌
I doubt people saving up for months to buy ~2500 dollar or euro and not build something themselves but go for a prebuilt, gonna love to check stuff they might not have a clue about what goes where. So instead of maybe have to go through an install of Windows, they have to check all cables and what not. They also have to check whether promsied parts are in there. Yeah, what a win!
PS, yeah, he owns up, but as long as he sees the W vs L as equal, the actual critic might be lost. You need like 15 W for 1 L for a product like this. It's a prebuild, anyone with knowledge would go for ordering parts they need and maybe upgrade certain items for the future. I would be so angry when finally getting a package and then some serious issues. Why was noone with actual knowledge showing people how to build? And it's not a 1 sample thing, the sample was ordered for a test and it had problems.
@NLX78 i can see where your coming from because it is a bit of a hassle checking the wires and making sure all components are there but then again if you aren't checking to see if your product is in good condition and has all components regardless of what you buy and get shipped then isn't that really on yourself, especially if that product is faulty and a simple check when it arrived could have saved you a headache or two :) P.s my comment was more towards the ingenuity of the advertisement of the business rather than the product itself
Not only that, but the owner responding/watching the review, and taking notes. I"m sure this is what you meant too, but it's just incredible... and credits Zach for his honesty.
Asmon: takes criticism about the pc from his company like a champ Also Asmon: Spend 5-10 minutes explaining that its not a Penis rocket and that its a hammer with a star XD
Dude took the criticism like a champ and owned up, but melted down at the dickrocket. Much fun was had and I wish the Starforge Team all the best buildin up!
Tbh, if he was in charge of it and took it personally knowing he’s as immature as a kid like he implied with these kinds of jokes, it shows how dedicated and serious he’s taking the job if he melts down trying to perfect even the branding so he 110% took some of Linus’ critiques to the others about the quality after this, that’s a good owner right there imo.
@@Artryom Its a stream for average 14 - 23 year olds, you need to act a certain way to retain attention of that age group(i.e constantly make jokes and be childish). you cannot be serious all the time. He probably acts a different way when the cameras are off, to be able to attract industry veterans to work for him under his leadership. don't judge a book by its cover. Immature people don't have accountability and throw tantrums, this guy showed extreme accountability that i have rarely seen and also integrity. and he stayed true to himself. watch the whole video. If you think this is immature, i'd say you don't know what maturity actually even means.
@@swapnilmankame No, I’m pretty sure he said it himself at some point, that he was immature and would notice if he looked like a PP Rocket like Linus kept calling it meaning he’d laugh at those kinds of immature jokes, so take off those tight panties for a moment, read what I say and pay attention to the video, get off my case. Also, immaturity comes in many different forms, not just those specific acts and it’s pretty subjective. We all have immature tendencies so it’s not really an insult. Also tf? 14-23 year olds require acting childish to be entertaining? This is hilarious, I don’t think you can have a valid say on what qualifies as immature or not. 😂 18:49 is where he says it I think…
Linus didn't ask for a 3rd insert. He meant that the water pump head is RGB, So if you had made the inserts clear where there is colour the end user could change it to whatever colour they liked with the RGB software on their computer
Yeah those deep cool castle coolers come with like a mirror puck and one other, I forget. Those weren't included with it, but instead just the custom pucks.
@@fade2black001 Right, the whole purpose of an SI for them to build and configure a computer for you, because you don't want too. You pay for the convenience and you pay for their service. It literally says in the video that their prices are good relative to the competition.
@@fade2black001 Linus talked about this late in the video and starforge's system wasn’t the most expensive system on the market by a long shot. Expensive, yes. Grossly overpriced? Not quite.
@@fade2black001 YOU BUILT ONE COMPUTER - do it for 10 friends for FREE > then Manage their hardware faults, their software mistakes for as LONG 24 MONTHS and with your phone perpetually ringing. How much will you ask .... your ELEVENTH FRIEND For building ONE ALSO FOR HIM. I do build PC ONLY FOR FRIEND - and never ask for building or managing costs. The last one cost me 60% of the total price to repair it. ...and yes, it was a simple thing but my friend was not able to do it by himself with me on videochat. Highways are not free in Italy, nor the fuel, and doing 700km for free in one day is what you do for a friend, not for a customer.
That AIO puck should be clear acrylic with the logo printed on it, so you can shine the light through it. Then you'll only need one puck, and the colour can be changed via RGB.
is there another backing thing to peel that lets the light go through the puck? i do like peeling things but had a thing happen where the peeling did damage a product box.
honestly this was a huge win for asmon; not only did he get really good feedback from a legend among tech, also just got a free ad to millions of viewers
@@joshchaplin3705 overpriced? did you not watch the video? hes cheaper or the same with every other pre build company and obviously when you buy a pre built computer you are paying for labor not just parts...and please explain these oversights maybe with some timestamps
I think everyone can agree, the concept of a company owner being a streamer and then reacting to product reviews brings a whole new dynamic to accountability and entertainment in one! groundbreaking Asmon, Big W
@@johnmaurer3097 for his fans? He's ripping them off to an EXTREME. All pre-built PCs are these days. He's buying computer parts and reselling them at a MASSIVE markup. He doesn't even know ANYTHING about the hobby
'being open' ? So just saying the bad stuff happened because of other streamers, is being open? these are only individuals who try to be a company together, while still being individuals. They should held eachother responsible
Well they have to be now as they got shit on for trying to silence criticism at the start by banning people and then going on the offensive with some silly slideshow presentation on Emiru's stream making out like all the critics were dumb. They focused on the small minority of people comparing their prices to DIY, when a lot of the criticism was down to their prices and specs being worse than competitor pre-buits. They then reduced the prices and increased specs so were obviously wrong in the first place.
A tip I would give is a "before you get started" sheet like some SIs do. It tells you to check connections that may have come loose in shipping etc. It does happen quite often with the abuse that is the shipping industry.
@@nateg.6187 You mean the business model of literally being a tech reviewer? His literal job is to review and critique tech which includes pre-built computers. You certainly seem to have a strong opinion of him having never watched any of his videos or apparently even know what most of his videos are about.
This is actually really great for Starforge... Linus is clearly very well trusted in the community, and this kind of information and criticism going straight to the CEO and the rest of the company is something other companies would pay millions for in product reviews and consumer satisfaction data. Nothing but a big fat W here.
The ONLY real problem with LTT is his UNASHAMELESSNESS of CONSTANT HAWKING of his OWN products that now sometimes eats into whatever he is doing to the 25% mark of the entire segment! At this point I myself have UNSUBSCRIBED HIM for this VERY reason some months back. He seems MORE interested in doing this than actually reviewing things now a days. And that's another reason that I like Gamer's Nexus as well, they show ONCE their main sponsor at the VERY beginning and MAYBE their own thing WHILE doing whatever is the subject of the day is. Then it's ALL about the subject at hand... PERIOD!!! LTT frankly is more interested in HAWING CRAP than doing real reviews - it's like this for YEARS now and frankly I think the ENTIRE fan base is FED UP with LTT for this VERY reason!
@@timbaumann9046 I always find it funny when someone's in the minority, yet says something like "ALL of his fans are fed up with him". In fact, for most fans the LTT Store segues are kind of a running joke.
Long time LTT watcher here, and i can say this is high praise. This 'review' is so much better then the others (in the secret shopper thing), so for a new company. This is a huge win, and put's you on number 1 for SI's Also very much loved the reaction to the video. hehehe Best of luck with your streams and company!
The balls on this dude to watch this live on his stream. Linus will absolutely light you up if your product sucks. Getting a relative W from the tech GOAT is fantastic for them.
Can I just say I appreciate that Asmongold, immediately recognises they messed up and was like "Okay we need to fix this right now". It is the advantage of having twitch streamers as the face, in that they get the good and bad, so try to deal with it ASAP. Props to you.
@@hasea0295 not weird. Just bugs to be ironed out in the way of quality control. Zach being the way he is will undoubtedly be following up with the spare parts thing with other customers and ensure that it is covered in the future. I think others will be a bit like me in expecting these guys to be learning on the go as they mess things up and work to cover themselves to keep the goodwill with the community.
I like Asmon, but he does have a history of saying he'll do something and come to find out 6 months later he's still complaining or hasn't done a single thing to remedy it. I hope it doesn't take him that long to send a message/make sure these things get ironed out.
Y'know. it's so like Asmon to take every single criticism on the chin, address them for the most part and then continue, not getting mad at anyone anyone in the company, or mad at Linus, or trying to brush off his criticisms at all. Asmon is a very intelligent man. I've said it in several comments. He has this constant awareness of what to say and what not to. This video was really interesting to watch for that reason.
Not taking any respect away from Asmon, he's a favorite, but this is just called being an adult. It's just becoming more rare as people behave more and more like children, especially internet personalities.
As stated by others, the CPU waterblock is rgb, all you need is to supply 2 pucks, the first one completely clear and the 2nd one clear but with the Starforge logo etched into it. That way with the custom Starforge puck the logo will show no matter what colour they set the back light to.
It boggles my mind that I'm a complete novice in the grand scheme of PC building compared to guys who have experience in previous businesses that built and shipped PCs and even I was like "why the fuck didn't they just include 1 etched clear cap and 1 plain cap?".
I’ve never watched a streamer have such a human reaction to something. It wasn’t full of over the top reactions that didn’t need to be there, and it wasn’t dismissive of the criticism that was given. By the end I felt so happy for him because he seemed so happy that his company succeeded. Needless to say I loved the video.
My favorite part was how he took the “penis rocket” reaction. He should make a new gpu block cover that has squirts coming out the top, just for Linus.
Ironically he’s a pretty stoic/introvert guy, but even still gives a much more entertaining “reaction” to such videos than most “charismatic”/extrovert streamers
Honestly as a Product development and production optimization engineer, the fact that You throughly go through all the points and take them to heart, and take action to resolve the issues, is better than 90% of businesses out there, dont take it personal, but take the information and evolve from it, very good man!
"I thought he was complaining and now he wants 3?" best line in the whole thing. I appreciate that this twitch guy was able to watch his own product get reviewed. That had to be nerve racking.
A bit sad that Linus didn't communicate a bit better that he wanted a clear one that changed colour depending on the lighting behind it rather than just a paper slip. It's super weird that their logo on the centre piece is the darkest in the entire computer.
Massive respect for the transparency, honesty and authenticity. So difficult to find these days. Never seen any of your content before but instant-subscribed based on this alone.
same.edit this help make it a very good campony did not know of it but looks like you guys just started but will get better if you go on like this keep up the good work i always build my own pc but maybe one day i will order one just for easy use
Well, they're "minor" issues to people who know how to fix them themselves, but to people who don't know about PCs, this can cost tons of money and time to resolve. You're not going to succeed being sloppy.
@@AnimeBeefRandoms Huh? The only serious issue were the cables that weren't seated properly, all of which is covered under their warranty. I'd be annoying as hell to have to send it back if you weren't able to spot and fix it yourself, but that's just a matter of time lost. You aren't paying for the shipping for repairs while under warranty, at least not according to this very video.
@@weebtrash9356 Unless people follow the link in the video and indicate Linus as their exposure. Which is measured in dollars per follow-up and not thousandths of a cent.
@@G-man420 if TH-cam gave creators a dollar per view, which is what your implying, Google would have left it to die as it would be far too expensive to run, LTT does not have regular videos surpass low five figure income in the first month they were posted (based on rough CPM numbers and excluding sponsors who pay for the expected traffic sent by the LTT video). Individuals clicking on the link and leaving a like and comment on the original gives the creator basically no money, literally thousandths of a cent.
This was an extremely positive review by LTT, out of all the prebuilt PC companies I've seen him review I think only ibuypower came out about as well as this. Most had at least one major issue to be addressed but there were only really a few minor ones here. Not what I was expecting at all.
And honestly, minor problems are ones you expect from a new company. These sort of QC items are just a matter of updating a few small practices rather than having to overhaul any major component of the company itself. If they keep it up, then it's mostly up to their marketing and sales.
@@GreenSlug420 Obviously people are willing to spend the additional money on having their PC prebuilt, otherwise these companies/services would no longer be provided/exist. Also, the fact that people are willing to spend thousands solely for a GPU should be a fair indication that people are willing to spend the extra money to have someone build their PC for them, and for it to be covered by a warranty, as opposed to saving money and potentially destroying parts or the PC itself.
@@nateg.6187 That’s ok. Nobody is going to force you to watch Linus if you don’t want to. I think you’re being too hasty in judging him after watching a second-hand video but maybe that’s just my ego talking. This is the internet, do what you want.
I’m literally choking, your company was younger, mistakes happen, hope your company flourishes my guy, good on you watching the criticism and improving yourself. I genuinely like that
As a guy who used to make custom computers for people as well as doing repairs. Linus is very good at his job and pretty fair in his reviews. That said, building computers and shipping them is very hard to do and ensure the cables always arrive connected.
This has been an eye-opening, refreshingly transparent, and honest reaction to criticism. I legitimately hadn't heard of this company before today, but now I just wish them nothing but success.
This was by far way more entertaining then I ever expected it... watching Asmongold defend his penis rocket was by far the highlight of this year for me lol!
yeah. i was laughing when i watched linus's video on it. and the cherry on top of the proverbial sundae was watching how asmon defended the cock and balls logo. lol
Dude... when you were all WoW I couldnt stand you. But Ive really been appreciating your content lately. When people try to judge you, you just own it. Way to go man. Respect. Didnt realize you were so real.
I think its really cool that he reviewed your computer AND gave you a lot of constructive feedback on what needs to be fixed. (which he didnt have to do)
@@Greyat92he probably means he didnt have to give the review the approach that he did and he gave a lot of constructive criticism instead of flat out pointing flaws because its a start up company instead of a flagship company which he would probably be more harsh on
I like seeing companies taking accountability and reacting constructively to feedback like this. There was also some cooler company who got a bad batch of o rings and got the issue, where to get free replacement parts and a tutorial on the fix publicised pretty sharpish through gamers nexus
If he really cares about real thing! I hope he modify this logo! It is just wrong! I´m hammer fan but... connecting hammer head with lines is wrong! Good hammer does not stay on its head! Only useless hammers do! Man please change the logo a little and you will be good in all pp eyes! ( just small fix. No lines connecting with hammer and 180 degrees spin! It looks way better as a hammer! plus it is the hammer not a small d... with balloons! :D
@@nemesis8508 what I’m saying it’s his reputation if one of the biggest TH-cam reviewers reviews your product you want it to be good or else people wouldn’t buy it it’d business 101 make a good product.
I am crying over the logo part 🤣🤣🤣 But seriously kudos to you for doing this live and taking criticism very well and mature. The fact you was eager to contact your company about changes based off feedback is very telling and welcoming. Nothing but best wishes to this company and you ❤️
Even still knowing it's a hammer... it still looks like a Blue Origin penis rocket. If there had been some horizontal lines breaking up the grip of the handle, it would definitely read better as a hammer, but as one solid piece, it is too vague.
Huge props from doing this video and showing good sportsmanship. Your response to the video was understandable, relatable and you addressed it well. It is cool to see a company willing to take criticism, are willing to change and have actual customer service.
So, im 41 and have been a console gamer my whole life. Mainly Xbox but own Nintendo and Playstation too for the proprietary games that are not on Xbox. So, im new to all this and this is why this is very refreshing to watch a company own up to their mistakes. I know very little about pc, but learning more all the time. To be open and honest about issues is huge to me. We all make mistakes, its what we do after that matters way more.
like others said, as a long time LTT fan and as one who saw their video, your company actually got a rather high praise from Linus ! To get that from him mean you're doing something right man
@@nateg.6187 as far as i'm aware, he endorse none of the budget one i've seen him review . He got good reason though as what he had reviewed in the past was utter garbage. As someone who do build computers for myself, friends and family, none of what Dell nor Wal-mart did would be near to be "good enough" to be qualified as sellable, even less with a profit. Even neweggs pre-built, at the time, i wouldn't have touched with a stick.
of what i've come to understand, he's as critic with others as he is with himself. He trive on quality and others botching piss him off, which i totally understand.
@@leadpaintchips9461 $900 for labor, and 2 years warrantee and free servicing, and free postage etc etc etc. If you think you can do it cheaper and make a profit, prove us wrong.
Honestly I do see the hammer, also I appreciate Asmongold being receptive to feedback, personally I think its fine for companies to make honest mistakes as long as they improve from them
LTT is probably the end game Reviewer for every PC companies despite the mistakes this is already a big win to improve StarForge so congratulations and best of luck.
Gamer's Nexus will purchase a prebuilt and eat that machine alive. They tear junk limb from limb. They make LTT's video look like 2017 youtube kids toy review.
@@vibrance9191 True in terms of technical depth, but Linus has much more reach and is an easier watch for most people, so if you're talking "expert review that will influence buying decisions", I'd say Linus has it. Which is ofc why Intel dropped tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars on upgrading his staff's gear. My guess is half or more of those people would preobably have gone team red if they'd jsut had $5k no-strings cash, but with that budget you can afford a really good Intel CPU and be happy with it, so it looks like a recommendation even though it's very obviously a sponsor. And a recommendation from Linus Tech Tips is a valuable thing to have, especially if it's entertaining and is a recurring feature spread over a year
So funny that Asmon is not bothered by the comments pretty much saying that the pc is sub par, but when the logo is compared to a peniz... THATS THE LINE
I swear I have never been so entertained watching a react video before and its purely because Asmon is literally nervous as hell and I don't think I ever seen someone also take criticism as well as he has. Honestly perfect video and big props to Linus for criticism. Starforged could really pick up from here with all the valuable feedback
Bro, the whole time while watching this, I was thinking: "Damn, this is fucking entertaining." Great video, also love this Linus dude, he seems chill as fuck.
It may be paranoid, but I've heard peeling those after it's built can short your system through static electricity. If I ever bought a pre-built (I wouldn't), it might give me peace of mind having them already removed.
I disagree. 12 year old Timmy shouldn’t have to open up his pc case to peel the sticker off. What they should do is leave the wrapping on the case so you can peel that off
@@slimeshadetree13 TBF, 12 year old Timmy probably won't. If they order it it's with their parent's money and the parents should be expected to set the system up.
I like to peel those things myself as it makes me feel like I'm the first one there. Like I know I'm getting something new and not used. It's a comfort thing on a mental level. But to each their own. Lol.
Having this kind of quality check for your business is priceless. Because customers are often a angry about deficiencies, but do not communicate this to the company, or it seeps away in some underpaid hotline. It is important that criticism reaches the people who can change something.
Im not into streaming so admittedly I dont know very much about your team or company. I watched this video on LTT and enjoyed it, even the jokes. I am glad I got to see your reaction to their video. No BS, no excuses and you guys seem to want to learn from any mistakes big or small. Your PCs do seem like something I would want for one of my other channels. I wish you all a lot of success in the future. I think both videos are a huge win for your company.
@@jonniestevenslok not sure your thought process, but I do have another channel. No its not a big channel at all, but Im proud of it. Thanks for your 2 cents, if only it was worth that much.
You can tell Asmon is trying to stay in character but holy sh*t the stress he's feeling from watching the video live is coming through. Props for having the balls to even watch this on stream~
when you know how to build a system its already really hard to see the value in a prebuilt. For him he knows how to build one and spec one and he knows it better than basically any one, so for him the whole thing is probably hard to see the value in. The value ofc is that they don't spend hours building the pc, they have a warranty and customer support and didn't have to research anything.
@@colamity_5000 Long time Linus watcher as well. Linus also has experience in running a SI when he was working at NCIX, so he does have industry experience albeit some of the info he has (eg. Windows license stickers) is dated. Although if Linus did not see the value in pre-builts, the secret shopper episodes wouldn't have existed in the first place.
@@colamity_5000 I don't think knowing how to build a system makes you not see the value in a prebuilt. It only takes a little bit of critical thinking to understand that not everyone will want to build their own. The thing that learning how to build your own system does do is it allows you to see all of the mistakes these companies often make. So, if anything, someone like Linus is THE guy you want to review a prebuilt computer.
@@philj8205 I'm not contesting he's the perfect guy, I'm only saying why he always seems so unimpressed with prebuilts. While he obviously conceptually understands everything I'm saying, you can tell just by his general affect that he basically doesn't see the value proposition in prebuilts.
I love that this is the first video of yours I’ve come across and although I’m a year late (just starting to teach myself builds) I love that you spent a good segment ranting about dicks 😂😂 I think they know they were going to be trolling you with that one a lot but you handled it pretty well and had me in stitches with the reaction
yes, you guy's made a really good first impression in not only dealing with an issue on launch, but also in watching criticism of your builds, and taking notes without imploding like a child lol. I give massive props to you and the rest of the team. You are correct in that most people buy pre-builds and add onto them. I'm building off of a $3k audio computer I bought from Sweetwater to make it into an audio, and gaming PC. My son is also wanting a PC, so I have been looking around at pre-builds to buy him so he can learn about the systems as they are, then upgrade as time goes on. Considering everything i've seen online, and what you guys have, Star Forge is in the top 3 of pre-builds i'm looking at. Good luck to all of you!!
LTT is probably one of the most thorough, fair, honest and trustworthy reviewers out there as you know, I think you did great! Keep up the good work and you're off to a great start
just a little advise for future leaders (and managers): you can not EXPECT, if you do not INSPECT. in other words, by PERSONALLY checking, inspecting, examining, and reviewing the product and work ( and services) of your subordinates (ie underlings and workers) , this will ensure that those you have hired and assigned work tasks are meeting your standards and EXPECTATIONS. thus "quality control / assurance " can not always be delegated without sacrificing the final result and desired outcome of your objectives and expectations.
second time watching this react to LTT tear down, and seems clear that SF needed much better QC before shipping their PC builds: all the little stuff LTT keeps finding are basic, easy to catch issues, and not even personal preference items on how a PC is assembled. hopefully they have cont to improve their product and responding to customer needs.
Props to you for being able to take the review own up to your mistake but also own up to the good things too. Most people do not take criticism very well at all, AT ALL and you did and when they said something negative you didn’t try to cover it up lie or make excuses you owned up to it and said ya we screwed up. If I were buying a pre built system I would definitely buy one from your company. But I build all my own computers and my family’s. It’s just easy and way less expensive.
He can't own up to much he didn't seem to be involved in the company other than being an investor. The only reason he had any idea what this product was is because he just got one.
I watched LTT video yesterday, it was entertaining. But watching you react and comment to it was really wholesome and I understand every emotion burst you had. I had my smile to my ears the whole time! This was a great video! Thank you.
I'm a long time LTT watcher. The start was rocky but they seemed like honest mistakes - Furthermore you corrected the important ones, this is rare lol. Proud to be a fan of yours. -Edit: definitely a pen*s rocket
They're not honest mistakes. These are mistakes that are never suppose to happen especially when there's suppose to be a QC process after the build. Power connections/power related connections have to be seated properly and correctly. What do you think would happen if this PC went to the average consumer who doesn't know anything about the workings of a PC? A customer spends over $3k for a PC shouldn't have to start trouble shooting their PC as soon as they unbox it. As a business you're wanting low/avoidable customer support call ins and returns.
It's not an honest mistake that they're now giving you a grade better GPU and current gen intel. They bought the old 11th gen for a deal probably and were maxing ROI. Especially since they apparently have such tech savvy workers. Think that those ppl would know a computer the internet called out for being shit, is in fact shit.
@@Nico78Not the computer LTT reviewed is after the first revision when they added 12th gen so you weren’t on a dead platform already. So yes the computer the internet called out is shit, and isn’t the computer Linus reviewed lmao
Thank you for giving us your own feed back. I’ve never heard of you nor your company. But the respect you just earned from me I’ll be keeping you in mind for my next build. PS: The customers do LOVE peeling off the plastic covering parts and case! lol
I have to say, from someone whos only seen a few of your videos before now, You handled this review in a way I want to show others. Love the content, love the humbleness, love the humor. Best of luck with the business venture!
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Only one way to describe the balls you've got watching this live on stream: rocket-sized.
Wish you the best of luck. Biz school seems to be paying off so far!
I'll have an eye on you guys in the future as well :)
- LS
Linus!
Really do need big balls to have your brand on blast in front of your own audience. Mad props for that and for owning up to the mistakes.
LMAO
good review ls
Asmon/Zack is one of the most honest people on twitch. If you say his company fucked up he will do everything he can to rectify it just like LTT would with the screwdriver
17:04 Denial
19:59 Anger
20:23 Bargaining
27:03 Depression
39:01 Acceptance
😂😂😂😂😂😂
i am crying laughing
lmfao
Congratulations your comment made it to iFunny
This is the top comment, Linus can GTFO.
Linus was incredibly fair & honestly your system came out fairly unscathed. Just look to his past “Secret Shopper” series to see how bad system integrators can actually fuck up.
Now we just need to wait for the Gamers Nexus review.
@@nordnord8141 Oh no... that might be baaaad. They're super anal
yeah, totally agree
the secret shopper series could be a mandatory watch for each employee of starforge, would probably actually help them avoid some pitfalls/mistakes of other system integrators
as for the ltt video, i would have loved to see them put the starforge customer service on test with a simulated fault like a loose ram stick or something (like they did for the secret shopper series)
Jnol
@@nordnord8141 If I were him I would hire as many people as necessary and pay them whatever it took to ensure that my product, no matter how good, never made it into Steve's hands. That man can smell weakness from a mile away and he shows no mercy.
Imma be honest, I've never watched your channel before but seeing the way you handled linus' honest review of your PC, you handled it so graciously. I love that you admitted to the few mistakes and even took action to bring the issues up with the other creators. Most people would have gotten defensive about critical feedback but you took it in stride and are using it to improve your product. I can't praise you enough for how you reacted. Well done!
He did great, and his levity through it was amazing too.
Because he’s level headed and doesn’t have an agenda. He’s himself. Love that about Zack
Well said, that's why he's popular. He doesn't care about what's "cool" or trending. He just does him@@PoGoFoShoDoe
Linus Trans Tips
@@PoGoFoShoDoeironic.. dudes a weirdo
The feedback he gave you is invaluable. You couldn't have asked for a better review of your product.
Nice avatar!
literally free QA
i wouldnt buy from asmons company that is for sure
@@adamwest5006 I wouldn't either but if they listen to enough of the top tier feedback, the brand COULD mature into something decent enough.
@@adamwest5006 problem with the this video is that he's only an investor and doesn't know much of computers himself. As far as the response from business owner goes he seems to have the right attitude.
The level of scrutiny you get from Linus is valuable, it's like hiring a consultant for free plus at Linus' level that's priceless.
Not to mention the Free Good Publicity! As for the C**k & B**ls Logo I Say OWN IT!!! No One Will Ever Forget It!
@@caladonn2659 I like the c+b logo, if starforge is still around when I need to replace my quarantine computer, I’ll definitely consider.
Actually if they just have logos I can stick on, I’d buy one
@@caladonn2659 Exactly, since Linus mentioned it, the logo is unforgettable now!
It's even better for Star Forge cause technically Linus and the crew payed them to review their pc since they bought it
@@red_ashcroft I literally cant unsee the logo now 🤣
Linus spoke about how terrifying it was to watch the reviews of the screwdriver, major props to Asmon for not only going through that live on stream, but having the honesty and integrity to own the mistakes (like checking his own accessory box for the power cables and admitting the fault)
You can always improve your computer design but if you show that you can’t take criticism, no one will give you the chance to improve
Are you kidding asmonds pc’s are at least 1300$ overpriced - 1300+ for assembly and not the best assembly at that with mistakes not sure it's worth
No ? You can't compare 1300 to warranty services and suport. If you want your 1300$ buy a diy, you and you alone risl it for all.
i hated asmongold for a long time for the character and who he was. but over time and seeing zach, hes a legit good fuckin guy. respect for owning it for sure.
@@drueckglueck9918 have you seen his desk? lmao it makes sense for it to be next to him, I'm the same
I'm with you there 1000%, peeling the plastic film off new electronics is one of the finer things in life. I would be disappointed if I opened up my new PC only to find the plastic films had already been peeled off. It's also proof that the parts are brand new.
No plastic film = pre-owned or refurbished device.
100% agree, my new parts arrived yesterday and I'm going to leave the front glass case panel peel till last for that ASMR satisfaction.
Damn genius
1. Gets a review from LTT that gives constructive criticism as well as points out flaws with companies product.
2. Live streams a reaction video with millions of views on top of a video already with millions of views.
3. Can now take the Review back to their company and fix the problems.
4. Gave the company a far better representation than the launch from what I gather.
and a hilarious video to boot Absolutely loved it
GG's 👌
@@fulnaz3164 Just little things to fix and it would have been perfect.
I doubt people saving up for months to buy ~2500 dollar or euro and not build something themselves but go for a prebuilt, gonna love to check stuff they might not have a clue about what goes where. So instead of maybe have to go through an install of Windows, they have to check all cables and what not. They also have to check whether promsied parts are in there. Yeah, what a win!
PS, yeah, he owns up, but as long as he sees the W vs L as equal, the actual critic might be lost. You need like 15 W for 1 L for a product like this. It's a prebuild, anyone with knowledge would go for ordering parts they need and maybe upgrade certain items for the future. I would be so angry when finally getting a package and then some serious issues. Why was noone with actual knowledge showing people how to build? And it's not a 1 sample thing, the sample was ordered for a test and it had problems.
1 Win for 100 faults..."Asmongold TV i'm gonna clip that win"
@NLX78 i can see where your coming from because it is a bit of a hassle checking the wires and making sure all components are there but then again if you aren't checking to see if your product is in good condition and has all components regardless of what you buy and get shipped then isn't that really on yourself, especially if that product is faulty and a simple check when it arrived could have saved you a headache or two :)
P.s my comment was more towards the ingenuity of the advertisement of the business rather than the product itself
Imagine if all company leadership had to livestream and respond to critic reviews, the world would be a better place.
Not only that, but the owner responding/watching the review, and taking notes. I"m sure this is what you meant too, but it's just incredible... and credits Zach for his honesty.
That'd be nice
Depends on the critic.
@@deviantdiva702 the critic is the public on the stream?
We'll only let the nice ones critique us 👍
Asmon: takes criticism about the pc from his company like a champ
Also Asmon: Spend 5-10 minutes explaining that its not a Penis rocket and that its a hammer with a star XD
This video was just straight copium
I honestly thought it was a gun turret of a tank.
His impassioned plea that it was not a dick was from the heart. I thought there were going to be tears.
This issue could have been easily solved just by inverting the Forging HAMMER in the logo.....
Honestly I thought it was an old school analog on arcade games
Dude took the criticism like a champ and owned up, but melted down at the dickrocket. Much fun was had and I wish the Starforge Team all the best buildin up!
Tbh, if he was in charge of it and took it personally knowing he’s as immature as a kid like he implied with these kinds of jokes, it shows how dedicated and serious he’s taking the job if he melts down trying to perfect even the branding so he 110% took some of Linus’ critiques to the others about the quality after this, that’s a good owner right there imo.
It looks just like what you see on the stall in the men's room.
glad to see this kinda backup. my thoughts exactly.
@@Artryom Its a stream for average 14 - 23 year olds, you need to act a certain way to retain attention of that age group(i.e constantly make jokes and be childish). you cannot be serious all the time.
He probably acts a different way when the cameras are off, to be able to attract industry veterans to work for him under his leadership.
don't judge a book by its cover. Immature people don't have accountability and throw tantrums, this guy showed extreme accountability that i have rarely seen and also integrity. and he stayed true to himself. watch the whole video.
If you think this is immature, i'd say you don't know what maturity actually even means.
@@swapnilmankame No, I’m pretty sure he said it himself at some point, that he was immature and would notice if he looked like a PP Rocket like Linus kept calling it meaning he’d laugh at those kinds of immature jokes, so take off those tight panties for a moment, read what I say and pay attention to the video, get off my case. Also, immaturity comes in many different forms, not just those specific acts and it’s pretty subjective. We all have immature tendencies so it’s not really an insult. Also tf? 14-23 year olds require acting childish to be entertaining? This is hilarious, I don’t think you can have a valid say on what qualifies as immature or not. 😂
18:49 is where he says it I think…
Asmon huffing on copium saying "it's not a dick" for ten minutes was just peak comedy
"I'm not stroking it!!!"
I couldnt stop laughing xD
Faaaaacts hahahaha
this HAHAHAHA
for things like that, we watch him
never seen this man so nervous. shows how much ppl respect linus in the hardware game
There are ‘two horsemen of the apocalypse’ when it comes to this: LTT and Gamers Nexus lol
@@DrVagax LTT might be more entertaining, but they’re still experts on this sort of thing. They have a ton of people on staff who know their stuff.
@@LeftJoystick the four horsemen: LTT, Level1Tech, Gamers Nexus, and JayzTwoCents.
@@downloadableram4212 yeah and Linus is there to f stuff up and be the clown
he IS the OG at this
I love how he just watches the review discovering for the first time what the hell his company is doing
Linus didn't ask for a 3rd insert. He meant that the water pump head is RGB, So if you had made the inserts clear where there is colour the end user could change it to whatever colour they liked with the RGB software on their computer
Regardless of that, Asmon input was super super funny.
Thank you, I was going to comment this as well!
Yeah those deep cool castle coolers come with like a mirror puck and one other, I forget. Those weren't included with it, but instead just the custom pucks.
What he meant was there was only green and blue inserts missing the red, instead of having the RGB inserts you have just G and B inserts. dry af joke
@@vsRaiden regardless of that, linus didnt ask for a 3rd insert
Linus might have started a permanent logo meme for Starforge, unintentionally increasing sales for them.
its a bonerfied win for starforge
i wouldnt want to buy a PC with the logo, but thats just me.
Oh Alex, it's on you
I thought it was an Atari joystick or some stuff lol
Does this mean the logo is now a Cocket?
As a former builder for several years .. Linus gave a good critique and Asmon good for you for taking notes and hopefully you get your team on board.
asmon is one of the few streamers i trust to do shit right
I wanted to say the same thing. Also funny af to see this reaction because when I first started I made a lot of the same mistakes.
@@fade2black001 Right, the whole purpose of an SI for them to build and configure a computer for you, because you don't want too. You pay for the convenience and you pay for their service. It literally says in the video that their prices are good relative to the competition.
@@fade2black001 Linus talked about this late in the video and starforge's system wasn’t the most expensive system on the market by a long shot. Expensive, yes. Grossly overpriced? Not quite.
@@fade2black001 YOU BUILT ONE COMPUTER - do it for 10 friends for FREE > then Manage their hardware faults, their software mistakes for as LONG 24 MONTHS and with your phone perpetually ringing.
How much will you ask .... your ELEVENTH FRIEND For building ONE ALSO FOR HIM.
I do build PC ONLY FOR FRIEND - and never ask for building or managing costs. The last one cost me 60% of the total price to repair it. ...and yes, it was a simple thing but my friend was not able to do it by himself with me on videochat. Highways are not free in Italy, nor the fuel, and doing 700km for free in one day is what you do for a friend, not for a customer.
Next video”Gordon Ramsey reviews Asmongold’s dollar steak “
hhhhhhh
That AIO puck should be clear acrylic with the logo printed on it, so you can shine the light through it.
Then you'll only need one puck, and the colour can be changed via RGB.
Makes you wonder if they have a model or that is only white light.
This is what Linus and them where getting at but articulated poorly.
Yeah that's the point Linus is trying to get across, they definitely went the long way to have it be different colors.
Yeah, that's what Linus was saying. The system already freaking has RGB, just let the user choose.
is there another backing thing to peel that lets the light go through the puck? i do like peeling things but had a thing happen where the peeling did damage a product box.
honestly this was a huge win for asmon; not only did he get really good feedback from a legend among tech, also just got a free ad to millions of viewers
It wasnt tho lol. Overpriced and so many oversights.
@@joshchaplin3705 overpriced? did you not watch the video? hes cheaper or the same with every other pre build company and obviously when you buy a pre built computer you are paying for labor not just parts...and please explain these oversights maybe with some timestamps
@@clips5552 yes overpriced. are you blind ?
@@foodbikesadventure5739 compared to what ?
@@foodbikesadventure5739 like fucking explain give a little elaboration just say overpriced without anything to back it up
I think everyone can agree, the concept of a company owner being a streamer and then reacting to product reviews brings a whole new dynamic to accountability and entertainment in one! groundbreaking Asmon, Big W
whats asmon gonna do other than react, he doesnt have a creative bone in his body,
🍯🍯🍯🍯🍯🍯🍯🍯🍯
@@juliewhitehouse3908 I see you are being creative with the use of commas
@@mawteen805 goteeem!
Same as Linus reacting to reviews by Project Farm for their LTT screwdriver.
I agree with having to peel off the protective film it's SOOOOOO satisfying
This is some next level standing by-your-product. Own it - proud of you.
I AM THE BEEST YOUUTUBER YOU'RE ALL TRAASH COMPARED TO ME IM THE BEEST 😕😕😕
Watching the LTT and this immediately after is really hilarious and wholesome. Asmon is a solid dude, I do hope this works out for him and his fans.
penis rocket company, own it
Simp harder
@@johnmaurer3097 for his fans? He's ripping them off to an EXTREME. All pre-built PCs are these days.
He's buying computer parts and reselling them at a MASSIVE markup. He doesn't even know ANYTHING about the hobby
Asmon trying to convince everyone it's not a penis rocket is the funniest thing I've seen all day 🤣
17:08-21:38 - almost 5 minutes of "it's not a dick. I swear, it's not a dick!" 🤣
It's the official Starforge Cockrocket™©
IM NOT STROKING IT!!!
I was laughing my ass off. 🤣
No kidding, the first thing I thought was that it's a phallus...... then he goes off for 5 minutes that it's not...... LOL.
It's so refreshing to see someone be so open to constructive criticism of their company. Major respect.
'being open' ? So just saying the bad stuff happened because of other streamers, is being open? these are only individuals who try to be a company together, while still being individuals. They should held eachother responsible
Well they didn’t have a choice because if they acted like they didn’t see this review it wouldn’t help them at all
@@jenkscx3766 so then show your crowd the colleagues don't work together and blame shit on eachother. Thats a 101 in biz uni on how not to do shit xd
@@djt-lex3962 cope
Well they have to be now as they got shit on for trying to silence criticism at the start by banning people and then going on the offensive with some silly slideshow presentation on Emiru's stream making out like all the critics were dumb. They focused on the small minority of people comparing their prices to DIY, when a lot of the criticism was down to their prices and specs being worse than competitor pre-buits. They then reduced the prices and increased specs so were obviously wrong in the first place.
“The text is pretty small though right” 😭😭 “at least it’s not catching on fire”
A tip I would give is a "before you get started" sheet like some SIs do. It tells you to check connections that may have come loose in shipping etc. It does happen quite often with the abuse that is the shipping industry.
pin this shizz
@@nateg.6187 You mean the business model of literally being a tech reviewer? His literal job is to review and critique tech which includes pre-built computers. You certainly seem to have a strong opinion of him having never watched any of his videos or apparently even know what most of his videos are about.
Yep, shipping can jar cables. Is True.
This
@@nateg.6187 Stop dude, you have no idea what you're talking about. It's embarrassing and obvious that you haven't watched their videos.
Great job man. An owner taking accountability, criticism and working on fixing it. You got balls doing it live
You could almost say he has rocket balls...
@@SSZaris GOOD ONE
If course he's the owner of the penis rocket company. What did you think? It's in the logo :))))
I appreciate the constructive criticism and the willingness to accept it and learn from it.
I wish your company great success!
similar here
He didn't accept the ol' clock n" balls though
@@AlexK-sk4qb To be fair that is subjective.
@@AlexK-sk4qb He was smirking the whole time. I looked at that as more of a bit of banter and entertainment. Asmon is an entertainer after all. :)
LTT: sees Dr. Evil's Spaceship
Asmongold: sees Thor's Hammer
This is actually really great for Starforge...
Linus is clearly very well trusted in the community, and this kind of information and criticism going straight to the CEO and the rest of the company is something other companies would pay millions for in product reviews and consumer satisfaction data. Nothing but a big fat W here.
The ONLY real problem with LTT is his UNASHAMELESSNESS of CONSTANT HAWKING of his OWN products that now sometimes eats into whatever he is doing to the 25% mark of the entire segment! At this point I myself have UNSUBSCRIBED HIM for this VERY reason some months back. He seems MORE interested in doing this than actually reviewing things now a days. And that's another reason that I like Gamer's Nexus as well, they show ONCE their main sponsor at the VERY beginning and MAYBE their own thing WHILE doing whatever is the subject of the day is. Then it's ALL about the subject at hand... PERIOD!!! LTT frankly is more interested in HAWING CRAP than doing real reviews - it's like this for YEARS now and frankly I think the ENTIRE fan base is FED UP with LTT for this VERY reason!
If LTT says ur doing OK as a custom PC builder, there is no bigger stamp of approval
@@timbaumann9046 bro relax it aint that deep lmao
@@timbaumann9046 I always find it funny when someone's in the minority, yet says something like "ALL of his fans are fed up with him". In fact, for most fans the LTT Store segues are kind of a running joke.
LTT IS THE COMMUNITY of DIY and System builders
Long time LTT watcher here, and i can say this is high praise.
This 'review' is so much better then the others (in the secret shopper thing), so for a new company.
This is a huge win, and put's you on number 1 for SI's
Also very much loved the reaction to the video. hehehe Best of luck with your streams and company!
The balls on this dude to watch this live on his stream. Linus will absolutely light you up if your product sucks. Getting a relative W from the tech GOAT is fantastic for them.
I can't wait for the Gamers Nexus review of Star Forge. - A lot less c*ck and b*ls jokes, but they would be more critical about thermals and build.
@@SouthernCross_ that's Asmond for you dude can be infuriating but he's honest...can't help but to like the guy....however I'd never play wow with him
@@SouthernCross_ bruh.. Nick dankner.. google, and learn. Asmon prewatched it aswell
The reaction was pretty hilarious, but overall I thought linus had a fair review with actionable improvements.
Asmond is such a legend for being honest about everything and admitting fault where their PCs had issues. Gained a lot of respect from me
is normal who pll will be lisen controversial streamer or one top tech review
Its literal cope tho.
Find it weird that an employee doesn't even know what's wrong or missing about their system is worrying.
@@junatah5903 What do you do for a living?
@@Petrixxxxxxx not reacting to other peoples hard work and making money from it.
@@czikos100 its basically damage control, however I do also respect it because if it was a dumpsterfire then it would be an akward 30 minutes :D
As both a Linus fan and an Asmongold fan, this was pure gold to watch.
Can I just say I appreciate that Asmongold, immediately recognises they messed up and was like "Okay we need to fix this right now". It is the advantage of having twitch streamers as the face, in that they get the good and bad, so try to deal with it ASAP. Props to you.
Seeing him take accountability and showing a genuine effort to improve was pretty nice
They already sold them n made money off them but couldnt be fixed until it reached linus tech tips? kinda weird.
@@hasea0295 not weird. Just bugs to be ironed out in the way of quality control. Zach being the way he is will undoubtedly be following up with the spare parts thing with other customers and ensure that it is covered in the future. I think others will be a bit like me in expecting these guys to be learning on the go as they mess things up and work to cover themselves to keep the goodwill with the community.
they're aware of most of the problems since they work with someone who knows them. Stop defending them. He's only doing it to make himself look good.
I like Asmon, but he does have a history of saying he'll do something and come to find out 6 months later he's still complaining or hasn't done a single thing to remedy it. I hope it doesn't take him that long to send a message/make sure these things get ironed out.
Y'know. it's so like Asmon to take every single criticism on the chin, address them for the most part and then continue, not getting mad at anyone anyone in the company, or mad at Linus, or trying to brush off his criticisms at all. Asmon is a very intelligent man. I've said it in several comments. He has this constant awareness of what to say and what not to. This video was really interesting to watch for that reason.
Right on
Very true. Would be very curious to see what he would say if Linus have a failing review
Not taking any respect away from Asmon, he's a favorite, but this is just called being an adult. It's just becoming more rare as people behave more and more like children, especially internet personalities.
Appropriate approach like an adult and if you don't mind me asking how old are you?
As stated by others, the CPU waterblock is rgb, all you need is to supply 2 pucks, the first one completely clear and the 2nd one clear but with the Starforge logo etched into it. That way with the custom Starforge puck the logo will show no matter what colour they set the back light to.
This. Not sure who thought it was a great idea to make nonclear pucks for a RGB watercoolingblock which actually blocks out the light
This is the best RGB related commend possible.
I hate RGB, But even I support the above OP.
@@IcecalGamer caus it just makes sense... you cant beat common sense.
This. Simple solution. Cost effective.
It boggles my mind that I'm a complete novice in the grand scheme of PC building compared to guys who have experience in previous businesses that built and shipped PCs and even I was like "why the fuck didn't they just include 1 etched clear cap and 1 plain cap?".
The logo is a birds eye view of a robot taking a piss
Asmongold you're a gentleman for not skipping LTT's sponsor spots.
He never skips them. Absolute bro
ikr I skip them even tho i just dont stream
indubitably class move
I’ve never watched a streamer have such a human reaction to something. It wasn’t full of over the top reactions that didn’t need to be there, and it wasn’t dismissive of the criticism that was given. By the end I felt so happy for him because he seemed so happy that his company succeeded. Needless to say I loved the video.
Yeah Asmongold does seem a very genuine guy.
Man watching asmonds during the johnny depp was amazing.
My favorite part was how he took the “penis rocket” reaction. He should make a new gpu block cover that has squirts coming out the top, just for Linus.
His company didn't succeed mate
Ironically he’s a pretty stoic/introvert guy, but even still gives a much more entertaining “reaction” to such videos than most “charismatic”/extrovert streamers
Honestly as a Product development and production optimization engineer, the fact that You throughly go through all the points and take them to heart, and take action to resolve the issues, is better than 90% of businesses out there, dont take it personal, but take the information and evolve from it, very good man!
Asmongold.exe has stopped responding to logo.jpg
Aside from the logo, it was great to see/watch!
600 dollars cheaper to build 600 dollars is basically paying everyone involved to put it together and make it run well and look good.
Mad respect for Asmon watching this vid and not going into hyper defensive mode
he did go into defensive mode
Linus is a respected figure in the PC industry. There was nothing Asmon could do about it if he trashed it fairly.
he did though about the hammer looking like a peni5 lol
Yea, but he has integrity and humility
@@nemtudom5074 it’s why I watch him, he’s hilariously honest
The reaction where he went into the box to see if he has the cables... Absolutely perfect. Respect for that.
"I thought he was complaining and now he wants 3?" best line in the whole thing. I appreciate that this twitch guy was able to watch his own product get reviewed. That had to be nerve racking.
A bit sad that Linus didn't communicate a bit better that he wanted a clear one that changed colour depending on the lighting behind it rather than just a paper slip. It's super weird that their logo on the centre piece is the darkest in the entire computer.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG I have no clue who these twitch people are. This video was the first that I’d ever heard of them.
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG this was in a livestream, how would this be scripted lol
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG What makes you think that?
@@JusticeInGaming_JIG No. I don't think his reaction to the penis thing would be that intense if this were scripted.
Linus and Moist are some of the only respectable YTs left. Glad to see this on my feed today.
Massive respect for the transparency, honesty and authenticity. So difficult to find these days. Never seen any of your content before but instant-subscribed based on this alone.
Same here, I've been watching Linus for a while, I'll buy this PC someday
same.edit this help make it a very good campony did not know of it but looks like you guys just started but will get better if you go on like this keep up the good work i always build my own pc but maybe one day i will order one just for easy use
THAT'S A MOOD THOUGH. I've never heard of him before, saw this video recommended from an LTT video, and SMASHED subscribe in the first few minutes.
Same
He pointed out a few minor issues, but all in all I felt he gave you guys a solid review that can only help your company in the long run
This comment was before they were revealed to be a cesspool of fake reviews and sexual assault I guess.
where was this revealed?@@volundrfrey896
Well, they're "minor" issues to people who know how to fix them themselves, but to people who don't know about PCs, this can cost tons of money and time to resolve. You're not going to succeed being sloppy.
These issues are minor because they cause no real problems, not because they are easy to fix
@@AnimeBeefRandoms
@@AnimeBeefRandoms Huh? The only serious issue were the cables that weren't seated properly, all of which is covered under their warranty. I'd be annoying as hell to have to send it back if you weren't able to spot and fix it yourself, but that's just a matter of time lost. You aren't paying for the shipping for repairs while under warranty, at least not according to this very video.
Asmon always shows respect to the OG content creator by watching their ads. I love that
I bet he has the password thingy by now.
that pays for his 1 view, roughy $0.0004 dollars per view, not the 10-20k watching on twitch, basically ripping off the original video.
@@weebtrash9356 Unless people follow the link in the video and indicate Linus as their exposure. Which is measured in dollars per follow-up and not thousandths of a cent.
idk Asmon but i thought the same thing when i saw that.
@@G-man420 if TH-cam gave creators a dollar per view, which is what your implying, Google would have left it to die as it would be far too expensive to run, LTT does not have regular videos surpass low five figure income in the first month they were posted (based on rough CPM numbers and excluding sponsors who pay for the expected traffic sent by the LTT video). Individuals clicking on the link and leaving a like and comment on the original gives the creator basically no money, literally thousandths of a cent.
This reaction is so goddamn funny all the way through, in so many ways.
I come rewatch this from time to time just for a good laugh.
This was an extremely positive review by LTT, out of all the prebuilt PC companies I've seen him review I think only ibuypower came out about as well as this. Most had at least one major issue to be addressed but there were only really a few minor ones here. Not what I was expecting at all.
And honestly, minor problems are ones you expect from a new company. These sort of QC items are just a matter of updating a few small practices rather than having to overhaul any major component of the company itself.
If they keep it up, then it's mostly up to their marketing and sales.
Yeah there was an issue, the price. It isn't that hard to build a pc and they are charging out of the ass for their pc's..
@@GreenSlug420 Obviously people are willing to spend the additional money on having their PC prebuilt, otherwise these companies/services would no longer be provided/exist. Also, the fact that people are willing to spend thousands solely for a GPU should be a fair indication that people are willing to spend the extra money to have someone build their PC for them, and for it to be covered by a warranty, as opposed to saving money and potentially destroying parts or the PC itself.
Asmon arguing that his logo isn't a dick is the biggest copium overdose I've ever seen
Maximum Cope Overdrive
LMAO🤣🤣🤣🤣
"I see dicks everywhere!"
Does Asmon realize that he spends 12 hours a day talking into one?
It's not tho, it's so obviously a hammer.
Weird I immediately only saw the hammer :/
Been watching Linus since 2011, this was by far the best QC you could have ever hoped for to find all the shortcomings and for free too.
Truth. Linus is fair but also critical. It would have been truly amazing to get a much better review than this.
@@nateg.6187 watching reviews second hand😭. Give his channel a try
@@nateg.6187 How can you truly know his reviews are unfair if you don't actually watch them?
@@nateg.6187 That’s ok. Nobody is going to force you to watch Linus if you don’t want to. I think you’re being too hasty in judging him after watching a second-hand video but maybe that’s just my ego talking. This is the internet, do what you want.
@@nateg.6187 Lmao
I’m literally choking, your company was younger, mistakes happen, hope your company flourishes my guy, good on you watching the criticism and improving yourself. I genuinely like that
As a guy who used to make custom computers for people as well as doing repairs. Linus is very good at his job and pretty fair in his reviews. That said, building computers and shipping them is very hard to do and ensure the cables always arrive connected.
I love how asmon is so pleased for a passing grade from Linus
I AM THE BEEST YOUUTUBER YOU'RE ALL TRAASH COMPARED TO ME IM THE BEEST 😕😕😕
This is a first for them and they are new to it so all that considering he should be proud.
He should be pleased, LTT is one of the largest tech channels on TH-cam
Just wait 'till Steve "GamersNexus" Burke gets his hands on a Starforge Systems computer and see terror in his eyes.
@@bloodangel13 who?
Absolutely gold. You take the criticism well. And you actually like to learn about the mistakes. This is the makings of a good company
"we fucked that up" I snorted
Not at all lol
He was more offended by someone else having diiik on the brain seeing a straight line than anything else said lmao.
@@scottwall8419 hahahahah
21:56 I prefer if they send the pc put with as little software as possible. Just a clean windows install and maybe some essential drivers.
This has been an eye-opening, refreshingly transparent, and honest reaction to criticism. I legitimately hadn't heard of this company before today, but now I just wish them nothing but success.
This was by far way more entertaining then I ever expected it... watching Asmongold defend his penis rocket was by far the highlight of this year for me lol!
That shit was funny I was dying the entire time 🤣🤣🤣
yeah. i was laughing when i watched linus's video on it. and the cherry on top of the proverbial sundae was watching how asmon defended the cock and balls logo. lol
From bird's point of view it does look like it!
highlight of your entire year? oof... damn
@@lil_zimmie Yeah bro it’s been a shitty year
actual legend for not skipping the ad spots in the video.
good way to give back to the content creator who is giving your product a spotlight
Does it matter if you skip them?
@@uddaloknag1751 yes
@@uddaloknag1751 Yeah that one doesn't compute for me either.
@@uddaloknag1751 Creator gets paid more , if you don't skip them
@@uddaloknag1751yes, that segment is what lets sponsors see if they want to continue sponsoring that creator.
Dude... when you were all WoW I couldnt stand you.
But Ive really been appreciating your content lately. When people try to judge you, you just own it. Way to go man. Respect. Didnt realize you were so real.
I think its really cool that he reviewed your computer AND gave you a lot of constructive feedback on what needs to be fixed. (which he didnt have to do)
This is how all these types of reviews go from a variety of creators, so yeah he kinda had to.
What do you mean by he didnt have to? It's a review, ofc he has to give a constructive feedback, whether it's positive or negative
Didnt have too? what make no video about a streamers pc for view for money....yh
@@Greyat92he probably means he didnt have to give the review the approach that he did and he gave a lot of constructive criticism instead of flat out pointing flaws because its a start up company instead of a flagship company which he would probably be more harsh on
He had to, otherwise it wouldn't be a review..
Wow! The humility and how serious he takes this feedback is really incredible.
Well yeah it’s his business it’s his reputation who wouldn’t be serious
I like seeing companies taking accountability and reacting constructively to feedback like this.
There was also some cooler company who got a bad batch of o rings and got the issue, where to get free replacement parts and a tutorial on the fix publicised pretty sharpish through gamers nexus
If he really cares about real thing! I hope he modify this logo! It is just wrong! I´m hammer fan but... connecting hammer head with lines is wrong! Good hammer does not stay on its head! Only useless hammers do! Man please change the logo a little and you will be good in all pp eyes! ( just small fix. No lines connecting with hammer and 180 degrees spin! It looks way better as a hammer! plus it is the hammer not a small d... with balloons! :D
@@omarramirez6984 do you realize how massive business peoples egos can be?
@@nemesis8508 what I’m saying it’s his reputation if one of the biggest TH-cam reviewers reviews your product you want it to be good or else people wouldn’t buy it it’d business 101 make a good product.
Man I absolutely love this interaction between companies and everyone taking things onboard from each other
25:50 the double take got me weak lmao. "is this him next to a dumpster?"
I am crying over the logo part 🤣🤣🤣
But seriously kudos to you for doing this live and taking criticism very well and mature. The fact you was eager to contact your company about changes based off feedback is very telling and welcoming. Nothing but best wishes to this company and you ❤️
@@Jongalongs Woah, what's with the hostility?
No, he didn't take the criticism well. Were you watching the same video? His face shows he was freaking out.
I died
That part was so funny
Even still knowing it's a hammer... it still looks like a Blue Origin penis rocket. If there had been some horizontal lines breaking up the grip of the handle, it would definitely read better as a hammer, but as one solid piece, it is too vague.
Huge props from doing this video and showing good sportsmanship. Your response to the video was understandable, relatable and you addressed it well. It is cool to see a company willing to take criticism, are willing to change and have actual customer service.
companies with human face are always better than the ones that act super robotic
This collab brings me more joy than it should.
I AM THE BEEST YOUUTUBER YOU'RE ALL TRAASH COMPARED TO ME IM THE BEEST 😕😕😕
17:02 the cope is real
@@joereginmyre nobody cares
@@retrorewind6042 I second this motion.
weird
So, im 41 and have been a console gamer my whole life. Mainly Xbox but own Nintendo and Playstation too for the proprietary games that are not on Xbox.
So, im new to all this and this is why this is very refreshing to watch a company own up to their mistakes. I know very little about pc, but learning more all the time.
To be open and honest about issues is huge to me. We all make mistakes, its what we do after that matters way more.
like others said, as a long time LTT fan and as one who saw their video, your company actually got a rather high praise from Linus ! To get that from him mean you're doing something right man
it's not a scam but a money grab. ok settled
@@nateg.6187 as far as i'm aware, he endorse none of the budget one i've seen him review . He got good reason though as what he had reviewed in the past was utter garbage. As someone who do build computers for myself, friends and family, none of what Dell nor Wal-mart did would be near to be "good enough" to be qualified as sellable, even less with a profit. Even neweggs pre-built, at the time, i wouldn't have touched with a stick.
of what i've come to understand, he's as critic with others as he is with himself. He trive on quality and others botching piss him off, which i totally understand.
@@OfficialCANVAS Isn't that the point of business, to make a profit, otherwise it's a charity.
@@leadpaintchips9461 $900 for labor, and 2 years warrantee and free servicing, and free postage etc etc etc. If you think you can do it cheaper and make a profit, prove us wrong.
Honestly I do see the hammer, also I appreciate Asmongold being receptive to feedback, personally I think its fine for companies to make honest mistakes as long as they improve from them
I AM THE BEEST YOUUTUBER YOU'RE ALL TRAASH COMPARED TO ME IM THE BEEST 😕😕😕
@@joereginmyre Dude wtf?
@@Anomajulia it probably a bot
Don't let this distract you that the logo definitely is penis and balls.
@@m.c.murdoch6 I can see it. Lmfao
LTT is probably the end game Reviewer for every PC companies despite the mistakes this is already a big win to improve StarForge so congratulations and best of luck.
Gamer's Nexus is the real final boss
Gamer's Nexus will purchase a prebuilt and eat that machine alive. They tear junk limb from limb. They make LTT's video look like 2017 youtube kids toy review.
@@vibrance9191 True in terms of technical depth, but Linus has much more reach and is an easier watch for most people, so if you're talking "expert review that will influence buying decisions", I'd say Linus has it.
Which is ofc why Intel dropped tens or maybe even hundreds of thousands of dollars on upgrading his staff's gear. My guess is half or more of those people would preobably have gone team red if they'd jsut had $5k no-strings cash, but with that budget you can afford a really good Intel CPU and be happy with it, so it looks like a recommendation even though it's very obviously a sponsor. And a recommendation from Linus Tech Tips is a valuable thing to have, especially if it's entertaining and is a recurring feature spread over a year
@@redrick7369 yeah and boring too.
LTT is turd gamers nexus is king.
So funny that Asmon is not bothered by the comments pretty much saying that the pc is sub par, but when the logo is compared to a peniz... THATS THE LINE
I like this guy's energy. He takes criticism in a legit way.
I swear I have never been so entertained watching a react video before and its purely because Asmon is literally nervous as hell and I don't think I ever seen someone also take criticism as well as he has. Honestly perfect video and big props to Linus for criticism. Starforged could really pick up from here with all the valuable feedback
Yeah, he was twitchy af. (no pun intended)
Bro, the whole time while watching this, I was thinking: "Damn, this is fucking entertaining." Great video, also love this Linus dude, he seems chill as fuck.
9:15 I'm with Asmon on that. I love the peels of new stuff. That should be left for the customer enjoyment!
It may be paranoid, but I've heard peeling those after it's built can short your system through static electricity. If I ever bought a pre-built (I wouldn't), it might give me peace of mind having them already removed.
I disagree. 12 year old Timmy shouldn’t have to open up his pc case to peel the sticker off. What they should do is leave the wrapping on the case so you can peel that off
@@slimeshadetree13 TBF, 12 year old Timmy probably won't. If they order it it's with their parent's money and the parents should be expected to set the system up.
I like to peel those things myself as it makes me feel like I'm the first one there. Like I know I'm getting something new and not used. It's a comfort thing on a mental level. But to each their own. Lol.
Is this an Apex Farm? It feels like it may be…your candor is very refreshing Asmon.
Having this kind of quality check for your business is priceless. Because customers are often a angry about deficiencies, but do not communicate this to the company, or it seeps away in some underpaid hotline. It is important that criticism reaches the people who can change something.
Im not into streaming so admittedly I dont know very much about your team or company. I watched this video on LTT and enjoyed it, even the jokes. I am glad I got to see your reaction to their video. No BS, no excuses and you guys seem to want to learn from any mistakes big or small. Your PCs do seem like something I would want for one of my other channels. I wish you all a lot of success in the future. I think both videos are a huge win for your company.
@@mercster Chinese made PCs? You realize logistically why that statement makes no sense?
@@mercster Not even close. Cope.
@@jonniestevenslok And you don't have anything better to comment. *shrugs*
@@jonniestevenslok not sure your thought process, but I do have another channel. No its not a big channel at all, but Im proud of it. Thanks for your 2 cents, if only it was worth that much.
Your should be very happy. This was a major win for your brand. Never heard Linus be so positive for a brand that didn't pay him.
lol
peeling is like a cheery on the top
You can tell Asmon is trying to stay in character but holy sh*t the stress he's feeling from watching the video live is coming through. Props for having the balls to even watch this on stream~
Seeing how stressed Asmon is when hos product is being picked apart shows how much he cares about it. I hope this PC business does well.
lol pc businesses only last for so long buddy
@@afreshreaction ight? and your point being what
@@afreshreaction was there any point in this sentence???
@@afreshreaction what is your point by saying this though, everything only lasts "so long"
@@afreshreaction Well Dell and Hp are SIs. Puget systems is a small shop that has been around forever.
Yeah as a long time Linus watcher I'd say Starforge has some real staying power. He can be brutal on some of these pre built systems. Nice job.
when you know how to build a system its already really hard to see the value in a prebuilt. For him he knows how to build one and spec one and he knows it better than basically any one, so for him the whole thing is probably hard to see the value in. The value ofc is that they don't spend hours building the pc, they have a warranty and customer support and didn't have to research anything.
@@colamity_5000 Long time Linus watcher as well. Linus also has experience in running a SI when he was working at NCIX, so he does have industry experience albeit some of the info he has (eg. Windows license stickers) is dated. Although if Linus did not see the value in pre-builts, the secret shopper episodes wouldn't have existed in the first place.
@@colamity_5000 I don't think knowing how to build a system makes you not see the value in a prebuilt. It only takes a little bit of critical thinking to understand that not everyone will want to build their own. The thing that learning how to build your own system does do is it allows you to see all of the mistakes these companies often make. So, if anything, someone like Linus is THE guy you want to review a prebuilt computer.
@@philj8205 I'm not contesting he's the perfect guy, I'm only saying why he always seems so unimpressed with prebuilts. While he obviously conceptually understands everything I'm saying, you can tell just by his general affect that he basically doesn't see the value proposition in prebuilts.
Love ltt but for real reviews of products and stuff I wait for Steve cause I like all the facts without the bias and broader terms for average viewers
9:30 peeling off the protective plastic layer is like breaking the hymen. It should always be done by the buyer...
nah this comment is WILD 💀💀💀
Ayo pause 💀
Yoooooo 😂😂
WHAat tHE FUUUUUUcK?!
How is this comment still up, outstanding 😂
I love that this is the first video of yours I’ve come across and although I’m a year late (just starting to teach myself builds) I love that you spent a good segment ranting about dicks 😂😂 I think they know they were going to be trolling you with that one a lot but you handled it pretty well and had me in stitches with the reaction
yes, you guy's made a really good first impression in not only dealing with an issue on launch, but also in watching criticism of your builds, and taking notes without imploding like a child lol. I give massive props to you and the rest of the team. You are correct in that most people buy pre-builds and add onto them. I'm building off of a $3k audio computer I bought from Sweetwater to make it into an audio, and gaming PC. My son is also wanting a PC, so I have been looking around at pre-builds to buy him so he can learn about the systems as they are, then upgrade as time goes on. Considering everything i've seen online, and what you guys have, Star Forge is in the top 3 of pre-builds i'm looking at. Good luck to all of you!!
Yeah seriously, I didn't know who was but I like his charisma and how he handled it.
LTT is probably one of the most thorough, fair, honest and trustworthy reviewers out there as you know, I think you did great! Keep up the good work and you're off to a great start
He cares for the customers.
@@ciaojay7025 it's great to see, most companies don't so when a good one comes along they deserve recognition for doing a good job
Well he is a consumer himself.
im impressed by the fact that you took accountability for the small short comings and not trying to make excuses.
just a little advise for future leaders (and managers): you can not EXPECT, if you do not INSPECT.
in other words, by PERSONALLY checking, inspecting, examining, and reviewing the product and work ( and services) of your subordinates (ie underlings and workers) , this will ensure that those you have hired and assigned work tasks are meeting your standards and EXPECTATIONS. thus "quality control / assurance " can not always be delegated without sacrificing the final result and desired outcome of your objectives and expectations.
second time watching this react to LTT tear down, and seems clear that SF needed much better QC before shipping their PC builds:
all the little stuff LTT keeps finding are basic, easy to catch issues, and not even personal preference items on how a PC is assembled. hopefully they have cont to improve their product and responding to customer needs.
Props to you for being able to take the review own up to your mistake but also own up to the good things too. Most people do not take criticism very well at all, AT ALL and you did and when they said something negative you didn’t try to cover it up lie or make excuses you owned up to it and said ya we screwed up. If I were buying a pre built system I would definitely buy one from your company. But I build all my own computers and my family’s. It’s just easy and way less expensive.
He can't own up to much he didn't seem to be involved in the company other than being an investor. The only reason he had any idea what this product was is because he just got one.
Omg this… this is golden content, Ive laughed soo many times. Thank you Linus and Asmon, you two are what the world needs!
I AM THE BEEST YOUUTUBER YOU'RE ALL TRAASH COMPARED TO ME IM THE BEEST 😕😕😕
Asmon: Hey, at least it didn't catch fire! 🤣 omg
Yes the world need accountability and transparency in the capitalist system.
Massive respect for watching this review live! I'm a huge fan of LTT and have always wondered what the other half of his reviews think. Thank you!!
"You have to TRY to make it look like a duck with an i"
Exactly the problem mang
I watched LTT video yesterday, it was entertaining. But watching you react and comment to it was really wholesome and I understand every emotion burst you had. I had my smile to my ears the whole time! This was a great video! Thank you.
Could not have said it better. Absolutely agree!
I'm a long time LTT watcher. The start was rocky but they seemed like honest mistakes - Furthermore you corrected the important ones, this is rare lol. Proud to be a fan of yours.
-Edit: definitely a pen*s rocket
They're not honest mistakes. These are mistakes that are never suppose to happen especially when there's suppose to be a QC process after the build. Power connections/power related connections have to be seated properly and correctly. What do you think would happen if this PC went to the average consumer who doesn't know anything about the workings of a PC? A customer spends over $3k for a PC shouldn't have to start trouble shooting their PC as soon as they unbox it. As a business you're wanting low/avoidable customer support call ins and returns.
It's not an honest mistake that they're now giving you a grade better GPU and current gen intel. They bought the old 11th gen for a deal probably and were maxing ROI.
Especially since they apparently have such tech savvy workers. Think that those ppl would know a computer the internet called out for being shit, is in fact shit.
@@BlackAxe101 If it truly was shit, then why is LNN saying it ain't?
There is no * in penis
@@Nico78Not the computer LTT reviewed is after the first revision when they added 12th gen so you weren’t on a dead platform already. So yes the computer the internet called out is shit, and isn’t the computer Linus reviewed lmao
Thank you for giving us your own feed back. I’ve never heard of you nor your company. But the respect you just earned from me I’ll be keeping you in mind for my next build. PS: The customers do LOVE peeling off the plastic covering parts and case! lol
I have to say, from someone whos only seen a few of your videos before now, You handled this review in a way I want to show others. Love the content, love the humbleness, love the humor. Best of luck with the business venture!