G80 M3 xDrive Review from a RWD owner - Has 4WD ruined the M3? + 0-60 and 1/4 mile Tests
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- The xDrive G80 M3 and G82 M4 are finally starting to be delivered, and this is a momentous occasion for BMW as it is the first time they have offered an M3/4 in 4WD. But has this ruined the driving dynamics of the car?
Having owned our RWD G80 M3 Competition from launch we have a fair amount of experience to see just how different this car is.
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We're so accustomed to hearing low 0-60 times now, but to put that in to perspective; 3.2 seconds is the same as a Mclarren F1. In a 3 series. Mad
Someone did 3.07 sec 0-60 on dry road
This isn’t a 3 series anymore 😂this is like Porsche 911 Ferrari type level
@@alexk3469 Yes, its come to the point that cars above this have lost their point because this is so prratical. You might as well just get this and a Lotus so you can enjoy a light car.
This G80 generation of M3 is very exciting. The amount of potential these motors have is unreal. Stock performance is utterly ridiculous as it is. 3.2 seconds to 60 is just crazy.
In ideal conditions it will do sub 3 seconds
@@sp3ckedout224 thats pushin it a little now. im on the fence about the Xdrive comp or rwd comp. I cant make up my mind on which one to get!
@@wesammmm5432 awd is more and rwd may be better because there is already 340i x drive down to personal preference
@@wesammmm5432 it did 2.9
Very close to the new 2022 rs3 times
Well it looks a lot better in black
Night and day difference
Not better than green tho
Ya, black somewhat helps obscure the overstated front facia.
@@abdullahdabas3353 Isle of Man Green is an amazing color but I don’t think the new m3-m4 works with it especially with that front grill, black fits it a lot better imo
Ordered my 22 M3 Comp Xdrive building in late October. Ordered the M Dive Professional so you can adjust traction in 4 wheel drive. Glad I did, and this video highlights that fact. Thanks for the informative video!
this new engine has so much potential, having the xdrive just makes more sense. Just with a tune and you're in the high 10s and maybe high 2 sec 0-60. Plus the confidence of all that traction at your disposal. And if you're feeling nostalgic one day.. just switch it off and have some fun. I think this is the total package.
We can’t wait to get stuck in to tuning when our M4 xDrive arrives!
@@EvolveAutomotive Has the ECU unlock been made public yet?
@@g9icy have to send ECU to Russia but its possible
Some have got 3.0/2.9 second m4 rwd competitions. Imagine what the mxdrive is really capabale of. Even a stock m340i is quicker to 60 and real life speeds than a c63s amg
Starting to love that front end.
Just picked one of these up. The car does not disappoint. I feel safe in it compared to the older f80's and f82's.
i love how my f82 feels lol.
Man it looks amazing in black.
Does look mean in black.
@@EvolveAutomotive And the watch also fits nicely to the car... "Dark Side Of The Moon"
Perfect choice mate!
@@EvolveAutomotive which watch is that?
@@av8743 Omega Speedmaster Dark Side of the Moon
Fam thank you for doing a review on the Xdrive as no one has done an actual decent REVIEW and this was the biggest thing I needed to make my choice. Regardless I wanted the Xdrive M3 but I guess I just wanted a thorough review lol Amazing job man keep up the great work!!
I was deciding the same thing, i originally ordered the 6 speed base M3 but later on decided to go with the xDrive since I live in a snowy town. Finally got my order allocated and it should start production in november!
which colour are you buying?
@@Bonbloc i wanted either Tanzanite Blue, Portimao Blue Metallic(after seeing it in the sun and sunset just WOW!), or an individual color… a velvet blue 🤤
@@Bonbloc After seeing isle of man green in person, i had to go with it. Its jaw dropping
@@AyushLifts saw one too with the orange seats i like it
Another brilliant informative video, these guys are just brilliant.
Thanks John!
I think in the uk the xdrives the much better buy add in the rain/winter
as well kinda makes it a much safter car. more so if it's carrying the family/kids in which most will be
Great video. Yes, the Xdrive M cars still maintain the driving characteristics of the rear wheel drive variants but provide more all weather confidence. I do like the stealth look of the all black car. My Marina Bay Blue M5 Comp doesn't really fly under the radar...lol
i appreciate that you respond to questions. Most channels dont. I just bought 2011 m3 . first doing my rods ,then exhaust test pipes and intake. Also like your test drives.
Thanks!
Guy on the DragTimes channel managed to launch m3c xdrive from 0 to 60 in 3.14 confirmed and 2.99 sec, not confirmed. Also not empty tank and a bit twisty road. So with a good stage 2, i think it might do around 2.7 0-60.
Yooo that new intro tho 🔥🔥🔥
Awesome review, and whilst driving ! Really impressive. Thank you for the content.
Looks the absolute business in black. What a beast!
Great feed back Imran 👍
I can tell you as a former f80 m3 CS owner and current g80 m3 xdrive owner, I can take corners faster and get on the gas sooner than I would ever dream about in my f80. the g80 xdrive is night and day better in every single way than the f80, possibly except for the gearbox... Ive heard the g80 rwd is better at putting the power down than the f80 buts that's not saying much and heard it still runs into some sideways inefficiency... either way, with the g80 xdrive you can turn off the awd for some rwd sideways fun and then run 0-60 in 3.2 seconds and 11 in 1/4 mile (or 2.9 0-60 and high and 10s in the 1/4 with a slight tune). best of both worlds.
11.4 is the best it'll do. You're not getting 11 flat stock.
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 nah, seeing yt vids on regular road (kinda dusty/rocky) surface roads of guys getting 11.2 stock. probably on drag strip or smoother road can shave .1-.3 off that.
@@js002003 is the xdrive reliable though
At last! An M3 xDrive review! I was worried as well about the steering feel when I ordered mine, but this is good news :)
Currently playing with my build with the configuration tool. Biggest selling point for the rwd imo is the manual transmission. Sure the auto is "faster," but for day to day use, I think the manual would be more fun 🤔. Individual, CCB's, M buckets and a tune sure does sound golden to me.
But then again...
The manual option does sway the RWD choice, however it’s one we don’t even get in the U.K. :(
I've heard the manual trans isn't that great, I'm inclined to go competition rwd but I will never drive this in rain
That’s a proper beast! For $80k, it’s gonna be a keeper for the enthusiasts…
This car is going to be a monster
My ultimate daily: M3 Touring xDrive (In black to hide the hideous grilles). I want one so bad... £77k+ is insanity though. A used F90 M5 is literally cheaper.
Get an alpina b3, touring, same engine as the m3 but with smaller turbo’s for more torque and normal grills instead of the pig nose front
@@tubejorrit Even more expensive than an M3. Alpinas don't depreciate as quickly either.
The front is really not that bad in person. I like it a lot
Literally!
In person the front looks amazing
4wd M3 and M4 means Nissan will have to go all out when the new GTR is due. Looks like the BMW enthusiasts will be happy with the rear drive bias on the XDrive cars 👌🏽
Great video Imran, good appraisal of the product…and although I would be sentimental about the rear wheel drive version, I think being logical and the fact that it provides all year round useability would rule the day..so I agree with your view that the All wheel drive option would be my version of choice M3. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks Victor. The M3 is not the M3 of old. That is the M2 now 👌
I’m excited to see this tuned!
Soon hopefully.
im a f80 driver since 2014 and i have problems with the new design.... sometimes it can be cool on different angeles and sometimes it is ugly... but i think the touring version of the G80 with x-drive will be a good selling car for bmw.
Will look better in Touring form
@@EvolveAutomotive why is your website down in the us? i cant buy products
Great INFO for the M3/4 fans........... I will stick to my incoming latest M5 Comp though.
Different propositions. I don't think many people will be cross shopping them.
Smart move, would never swap an f90 for a g80 lol.
Short but very sweet video, thanks for the footage and info, very informative.
Haha this was great man! Evolve One Take! I liked the shorter vid. You are the first one I have seen to have an xD. Also, call me boring but the triple black spec might be the best for this body style (sorry the grilles do not look awesome in person in loud colors - IMO).
Shorter because just wanted to talk about difference between RWD and AWD and not review the actual car itself as its the same as the RWD otherwise! Thanks.
3.2 0-60 is crazy fast for an M3.
This car weighs 4000 pounds and has over 500 HP. For most people an AWD, automatic version makes sense. If you are someone who loves kicking out the tail end and punching through gears this might not be the one. You might want to go for a manual gear box with RWD. I think having options is a good thing. The G80 M series has a car for everyone.
Just to play devil's advocate: I realise adding the xdrive is only a few grand more, but for those of us who are trying to keep an eye on how this additional expense all stacks up over the base price, can I can ask whether it really is worth it (given the reputed brilliance and competence of the RWD model's traction in everyday driving)? I ask this as a M340i owner who has really respected what the xdrive system does to handling when you want to be a bit cheeky with the throttle in winter conditions, but who also knows (as a former RWD owner) that in the vast majority of situations the limits of grip in a RWD 3er are often driver-provoked more than anything. In other words, if you're sensible in a RWD G80, is the xdrive really that essential, especially when so many reviewers have already attested to its outstanding grip and seemingly endless traction, even in challenging conditions. I'm asking out of genuine curiosity (and because I've not yet had the opportunity to test drive a G80 in either set-up), and not because I'm querying the findings of your very informative and balanced review. Thanks!
Honestly i cant picture the m3 or m4 being other than rear but the xdrive is good alternative to the gtr maybe 🤷♂️
Seems like u answered your own question mate. Rwd cars won't reach their own limits unless you stepping out yourself or it's snowing lol
Well you can turn it completely off , and be full rwd. So best of both worlds, it’s only 100lbs heavier. Lighter then carrying a passenger
Ask yourself when it snows, if that matters to you. My e92 m3 was an expensive paperweight for several days of the year - not that it bothered me, but it might others.
I've got RWD in my M3. Heavily modified, it's making well over 750bhp. I could get a 2.XX 0-60mph, but it's simply impossible with RWD and no form of competent launch control. I would LOVE xDrive in my car. If I ever upgrade to a G80/G82, I plan on also going for an xDrive option, simply because I plan on modding that too.
Love that road from sundon to M1
Over time it will become another legendary car . But I still am in love with the e92
Nice review bro. Keep up the great work.
M3 m-xdrive will destroy everything in this class. Can't wait for the touring m3c xdrive )
no brainer to go x drive, at the end of day people forget you can switch it over to 2wd at touch of a button if you want to, perfect like my old m5, puts power down safer in the damp etc. which is 75 percent of time in the uk.
Like a free book of knowledge 👍🏻✌🏾👊🏻✊🏻
Black seems to reduce the impact of the "Bug's Bunny teeth" front grill
Insane how a few options on this thing and it approaches $100k
I drive a manual rwd f30 3 series all year round with snow tires during the winter and it handles great in the snow. I use to own a e46 3 series XI and ran all seasons (tires) was nice in the rain but handled worst in the snow (no snow tires). I would respect the hell out of the person that daily drives a m3 g80 xdrive….. but lets be honest people buy these things and barely drive them. If I do ever own an m3 I am driving it everyday.
Xdrives on the Ms are a game changer for high power. Advantage vs boosted rwd v8s and now a formidable rival of the gtr
All high performance cars will be AWD and electric powered in the short future and will be crazy fast for those with electric power + AWD settings.
Pretty much.
Boosted v8s+awd are already pretty much at that point, for example the f90 m5.
Awesome content evolve you could borrow my car if you want to do in F10 M5 video 😄
Very informative as always. 👍🏿👍🏿
This is my perfect car at this moment in time. Just struggling with the near 80k price tag 😂
rather have an m3 xdrive than an m3 rear wheel drive especially with unpredictable weather in the uk
Looks so good in black
That intro though🤤😈
Thanks for the video demo. Waiting on your M4 to arrive. Inshallah☺🙌
I’m still chugging about in my e46 m3 8yrs later.
Very excited to have both the RWD and soon this car in my garage! My first Xdrive M car. Glad the steering feel isn’t hindered that’s one this I was worried about! This is black will look good with my blue m3 along with my f80 m3 and e92 m3. Love the 3 series!!
Chatting shit I’m broke and drive a 320d from 07😞 one day tho
Hahahah brilliant comment !
@@DjNikGnashers cheers mate glad I made you giggle in these sad times indeed
What a beautiful machine
The cost and weight do not appear to be factors. Evolve tuning of the x drive will definitely settle the debate and I eagerly look forward!
this is insane some guy has a tuned m3 xdrive and does 0-60 in 2.55secs on instagram. Quarter mile in 9secs. To think a bmw with a tune is almost as fast as a 765lt and faster than a turbo s 911. I would get this over a c and e63.
What the instagram
i would like to know how you learned to trust the car in the video u really push the car with easyzzz and by the way great video
If they fixed the front end, the car would be absolutely perfect.
Lovely video guys. Hopefully you could take it to the track carwow uses to do a drag race between the xDrive and RWD
What I'd like to see is a real-world weight comparison between the two.
Definitely a lot more power than claimed for those lightning times
Lord this specc🤌🏽😍😍😍
Looks Brutal
Sad to see true rwd m cars going away. Rip
Can the AWD system be switched off like the F90?
Yes, we mention it.
Yes awd is better but the problem is Xdrive models are marked up 10,000+ more which puts it at 911 territory. I’ll growing to like the front grille but I would take a base 992 over the m3 anyday
Waiting to see what. AC Schnitzer do for this car without, stuffing the warranty.
Another great 👍 video
Another person who doesn’t own the M3 discussing the M3, classic.
I have a G80 M3, F80 M3, 2 x E92 M3, E46 M3 CSL. Is that enough M3s for you? Oh our XDrive has been on order for ages. It lands soon.
Yes Imran mateee
Fantastic review. Best of both worlds, and the only penalty is a bit of weight. I'm swapping my RWD for one.
This is the one I'd pick. The RWD boys can sit spinning on damp roads, and then head into a hedge lol
My grandma can drive an automatic car 😘
She's reeeeally old
4 wheel drive foot down car for heavy footed people.
I'll stick with 455bhp through the back wheels, because I'm skilled enough to drive it. Only AWD muppets like you would end up in a hedge lol !
@@DjNikGnashers God forbid you have to roll into the power and can't floor it everywhere 🤣
Loving it
Now with that engine recall, can they please recall that front grill as well???🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Be interesting to see the insurance cost difference. My 2WD F22 430 is twice as expensive as my AWD F22 M240iX convertible
Never thought about that!
X-drive didn’t ruin the M3.
Those grilles did.
🇧🇷🇧🇷👏🏻👏🏻, Very interesting question, haven’t seen any drag races with an X-drive M3C yet, the only one I saw was an M3C X-drive against a Tesla plaid (brooks car from drags time), and that was a joke, but that was about it, thanks for the awesome comparison, between the a rwd x awd M3C…
Love the m3 xdrivd
Any more news on the exact make of your lenses in your glasses
Than you Tim
Still waiting on an answer!
Beard looks good 👍
"the same visually/the only difference is the drivetrain"
historically the drivetrain difference has caused a difference in wheel gap, no?
AWD hasn’t but the styling has!
I wonder how the all wheel drive affects fuel consumption as apposed to rear drive only??
RWD is more fun and I prefer it
I have e92 and s3 the bmw is a better drivers car in my opinion
Can't compare E92 M3 and S3! BMW xDrive is very different to VAG AWD system. Its very rear biased.
Main bearings fail on the S58
:( There is a service information buletin now, check your dealer. They f***d this engine design up... :(((
It's only a relatively small number of cars. For example this car does not seem to be effected.
@@EvolveAutomotive all are affected it seems, design issue, but bmw will not cover, too many cars as I understood correctly from the tech of the dealership. Will see in the future.
Quite contradictory from what has so far been released that it is only a small batch. Especially as the S58 has been in the X3/4M for a couple years now. Small manufacturing/assembly issues happen, and the manufacturer will often recall more than they need to if they can't fully pinpoint what cars have been effected.
We shall see if it is an issue that manifests itself over time.
@@MrVanuvanu is that already on stock ones or only tuned?! Ridiculous. They also share the same weak cast iron connecting rods from the s63tu4 engine from the f90 m5, just to make matters even worse…
@@av8743 stock ones 😕
I honestly thought and was expecting for this to feel a bit numb compared to the rwd varient,but then again the m5 with its xdrive is lively and still feels like a rwd car with the appropriate settings.Short review,but good one nevertheless.I want to know how much this xdrive has gained in weight compared to the rwd
Nothing I could feel driving the car on the road to be honest. Short review but I said what I wanted to say as it was more about the difference between the two rather than a full on review!
Think it's 30-40kg heavier.
+50kg
So the new M3 is now with RWD and 4WD rather than AWD as in there's drive train setting allowing to switch between both modes? Can you also lock the differential like on the new M5 CS?
Low milage F90 M5 or new Xdrive G80 M3 ? Which one do you prefer as you have experienced both.
Depends entirely on what you’re wanting out of it. Only car the G80 M3 makes a great all rounder.
@@EvolveAutomotive what really makes a g80 any better of an all rounder than f90? A bit
Lighter, and smaller (not by much at all) while f90 more practicality and comfortable.
@@av8743 Smaller in size so a bit easier to park in multi story parking spaces etc. In the UK anyway as our roads are quite narrow. Ideal situation is a F90 M5 and M2!
Nice review Imran. How did you find the ceramics vs your steels? 👍🏻
They’re also steel brakes
@@EvolveAutomotive ah ok! Maybe you could do a future video if you can get hold of an M3/M4 with ceramics, to see the difference.
We ordered the ceramics on our M4 xDrive so will comment on them when it arrives.
@@EvolveAutomotive nice one Imran 👍🏻
Awesome review! I also have a xdrive m3 but I do have a question as I am trying to diagnose if I have a problem right now. When turning right or left from a full stop in first gear, I get this feeling like some gearing is not catching. The car doesn't necessarily shake but the acceleration is not smooth. It feels like a 4x4 car making a u turn and getting that jerky acceleration. In a straight line, the gear shifts are perfectly smooth/normal. Is this something you are experiencing in your m3 as well or something I should look into? Any information would help! I've been looking for information online but its hard to find information on the car as the xdrive m3 is especially newer.
Did you get it fixed? The extra complexity of x drive makes me nervous
any update on the custom grill ?
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Rs4 beater 👍
Yep
@@stevem2323 it is
@@alexmaccain2362 My damn mistake 🤦.
@@stevem2323 it's ok people make mistakes
@@alexmaccain2362 My dumb ass thought it said better 🤦.
4wd saves lives
How ican switch from 4wd to Rwd in bmw m3 G80 2021 because idon t no please help me
if RWD is 1700kg how much is this AWD?
BMW with 1200kg 3series...now we here
i think + 150kg
+48kg according to BMW
+48kg
Own the G80 RWD … seriously considering selling and getting 4WD is the cost difference a lot?
From memory it’s not a huge amount considering the cost of the car.
You should get the price difference in resale of your G80, used car market for these cars is insane right now. The price difference is about 4k for xdrive. I have a 2022 m3 Xdrive and love the thing.
That black does a decent job of blending that awful front end
No it wont have ruined it,it will mean its a much more stable car ,especially in the rain ,who actually wants oversteer on a public road ?it’s dangerous and immature to be deliberately oversteering when not on a track !
guys, i need advice..... i am getting my 2022 M3 in May and i have to decide coopetition vs regular seats ... this will be my daily ... thoughts????
100-200kmh time will suffer slightly compared to the rwd but that’s small sacrifice.
Not when its in rwd mode
@@amazingamazigh6847 its heavier