This is one of the most requested videos I've had in recent years, hope you enjoyed it! Massive thanks once again to my buddy Andy for helping me transport both cars to the location. Have a great weekend everyone ❤️
Hey Joe, thank you for this great video! I have an idea for one of your next videos that you briefly touched on in this video - carbon-ceramic brakes. It would be very useful if you could compare day-to-day usability and what is the long-term cost (not just a single replacement). A lot of videos cover the racetrack aspect of carbons, but fail to explain how it's to live with them. I don't know if you would be interested in doing such a video, but from a SEO standpoint, it would probably do good as this topic is missing quality content.
"I don't have a massive production company behind me....!" Joe you could have fool me!... best BMW content in YT at the moment!!!! ... Thank you my friend!
@@JoeAchilles1 you say that and refer to the cars being dirty afterwards. Couldnt a simple wash fix that problem? Lol. Even a spray down of water alone? That doesn’t seem too difficult. Thanks for the videos! I thought that was a random remark on your end. I hope no one takes it the wrong way, it’s all love from me champ.
@@marveysingh9592 imagine the low imagination guys who only care about how fast a car goes to 60, distegarding what makes a car a driver's car. I can already picture this, 5 years from now, their electric auto-pilot cars will do 60 in less than 3 seconds and they will brag about it.. as they would have something to do with it. #idiocracynow
Joe has no idea how this video is gonna spark up another RWD vs AWD debate between the owners on the forums. For me, I had no choice since I wanted a manual transmission.
Hi joe yes x drive for me any day, I’m on my second 335d x drive tourer and been thinking of changing it for the 340 x drive tourer D or petrol ? , anyway more importantly after 14 months of treatment for cancer 2 big operations 6 months of chemotherapy 4 weeks every day of radiotherapy, my wife finally had some great news that all is good, now checks every 6 months, anyway we have all been through hell and our 2 daughters have really struggled, i have phone calls in the middle of the night and driven up to bring them home from uni, so iv been thinking of getting them a track day experience for them both as they both love cars, could you recommend any for us, we are in Grantham Lincs, anyway if you need help testing any cars just ask i loved to help. All the best mate Andy
When your engine is in the front and the torque is getting to 500 lb*ft, you have two options; move the engine to the rear (like corvette did), or add a front drive... It's just physics
A great comparison Joe. The xDrive does seem to be the best option, especially in the UK. That weight penalty really is negligible in a car of this size and power. I love the fact you can switch to rear wheel drive if you so desire. But I wonder in practice how often owners will actually do that? I’ll be fascinated to see if the same xDrive tech trickles down to the next M2…
I really love how BMW have made the xDrive as good as the RWD one :O, And also, The M3's looks have really grown on me just from watching Joe's videos 😅✨
Don’t forget, if you do decide to jump into an Xdrive, the LCI will start production next summer so you might as well wait until the redesign, or then you’ll consider upgrading again!
@@amiller2121 Why would they want to do that? It’s proved to be a big hit at this point with the exception of the leftover traditionalists. You guys are being left behind.
@ Brett Patton, I know right?? Like it’s time to get over it. I’ve had all the M3/m4’s since the E36 And I like the new design. Since getting mine I find the f82 looks so much less agressive and even dated dare I say.
Great analysis of carbon ceramic brakes for street cars. I’m excited to try the xDrive M3. A RWD car with snow tires is pretty good in most winter conditions as long as it’s flat, but starting off and driving up steep slippery hills is often a no go, regardless of tires.Been there done that. Audi must be worried…
Slippery snowy hills is definitely where you’ll feel the additional traction. Fit some snow tyres on and it’ll be one of the most versatile performance cars available.
I’m becoming more and more convinced the xdrive M3 will be my next car. I do wonder how it compares with regards to cornering and grip compared to the Japanese 4WD/AWD cars, eg GTR, Evo, Scoobys. Maybe an idea for a future video Joe?
“I don’t have a massive production company behind me…” Wow! Despite that, I’m always impressed and blown away…You Sir, are a legend! What an awesome Video as always Joe. Love the honesty and entertaining reviews. I’m a bit of a 3-Series fan boy, and have had 15 of them from E30 325s to F30 335s…I always wanted an M3…so thanks for keeping the magic and passion alive! Love your passion, attention to detail and special “BMW OCDNess” :) From yet another Huge fan down in South Africa! Cheers mate!
Definitely have the x drive, was there much difference in economy? Not an issue with 85 grand to rub together but helps with the range I guess.Very good camera work BTW.
Great video as always…. You had me at ‘just better’ lol….. my only thought is will the new 2022 M2 be the better M car given the size and how good your review on the M240 was? 👀✌🏼😎
My 71 plate RWD car has those "DSG farts" i always wondered why i heard them in mine and not yours. I went for the RWD after coming out of 3 AWD cars. I fancied a change and challenge to be a better driver! Great content as always Joe, keep it up!
Another great review Joe, I hope you will soon review the new Audi RS3 and to see how it compares with the M3 Xdrive. I think the Audi is cheaper and may be slower than the M3 but nice to see what you think of it .
It definitely depends on where you live and what you are using it for. If it is a weekend car… xdrive is probably irrelevant and a waste of money. As someone that drives a 3 series rwd all year round in the northern states, I don’t think xdrive is necessary. I owned a e46 3 series with all wheel drive and my f30 handles better in the elements(run snows in the winter). Now an M3 is a different league and I’m sure you can be more confident in the xdrive with that much hp. I’d def buy the g80 m3 with the manual… plenty fast for me/cheaper too.
xdrive is the only way to go - is the best of both worlds. you can turn off the awd if you want and the mdm mode is basically RWD where AWD only saves you when you're about to crash. Also the xdrive is running 11.3 in 1/4 and 3.1ish to 60 so the numbers are a lot better than the RWD. A cheap tune and your running in the 10s... You can get on the gas earlier and rocket out of corners faster than the RWD. And its faster around a track than the RWD version. And its not like you're gonna notice the weight savings in the RWD version as the car is already pretty heavy. Wouldn't be surprised if all future competitions are xdrive on the model refresh while keeping the RWD manual for the purists.
Thanks for being honest about the real cost of ceramics. The real issue is the cost of replacing them if you use them hard on a few track days. It’s all nice and well for journalists that never own their cars to say how great they are.. but they are not the ones having to change pads or discs down the road…
Thanks Joe for all the great content, analysis (and step outs hahaha). All-wheel-drive that you can transform into rear-wheel drive at the push of a button always seemed to me the best of both worlds-thanks for confirming how good it is when implemented well. Like you, I'm not a fan of fake engine sound so I just shut it off either through coding or by unplugging the control unit. Both ways work-did it in my F80 M3 and M2 Comp. Happy sliding!
When you switch on XDrive to rear wheel drive only is completely disabling traction. (10 step Traction is not available in that selection too) is very dangerous.
You have to wonder why BMW would bother with the RWD car when you can have the xdrive and simply de-couple the drive train and turn it into a RWD car if you wish
Joe CCB’s are best off track! They life almost half 100K miles. So your looking at 50K or more miles before you need to replace the pads. 100K miles for the routers! That’s if you don’t track them
By the way after watching your full video. My X3M Comp does have all of those little corky characteristics. The steering, the popping on hard up shifts, the rear wheel drive bios in sport mode and so on. My corvette 2019 Z06 with the Z07 automatic does the popping on up shifts like crazy. I have really started to like it.
Once again an AWESOME review. Thanks Joe. Definitely XDrive for me. You mentioned something about "decoupling the front diff in 2wd mode" So does that actually give you a 0/100 split? Yes I also do like the fact it doesnt scream XDrive. Also man the brakes just kill me. I mean the F80 brakes look FANTASTIC!! 4 piston front and 2 piston rear. I thought the reasoning behind the small rear caliper is cause they incorporated an e-brake system. At my job there is a 2020 Hyundai Genesis G70. It has 4 piston brake front and 2 piston rear brakes. But they some how managed to incorporate an e-brake system. I really wish BMW would have had done the same.
When I ordered my 2022 G80 M3 competition, the options for x drive we're not on the build sheet. I actually had to call my salesman a couple times to add things, like Lazer lights, which are not part of the executive package anymore. And all of the M performance accessories. Kinda stressed me out, how BMW changed so many order options from 2021, to 2022. I'm really happy with my RWD, but definitely will be trying the AWD when, and if they do a LCI M3 G80. If they go all electric, I will probably jump to a GT4 RS. The new design for the GT4 Porsche is pretty enticing.
Joe I know so many people who have purchased new BMW's based on your reviews. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a M240i xdrive with Tony off the back of your recent review. In my opinion BMW UK should give e you an M3 xDrive long term loaner with the amount of exposure and sales you have given them over recent years. Maybe approach them if they haven't been in contact already. Plus you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of adding/maintaining the ceramic brakes if they supplied a high spec car.
Making me feel good about placing an order for an M340i xDrive even though I live in So. California. Just assumed it'd be the better car all around as a daily driver. With a mild tune it'll be in the 450+ HP range and I don't see why you wouldn't want AWD in that case.
Also interested in the same car. However, no carbon fiber trim option on the M340i even though the OeM parts exists aftermarket. Why not make it an option.? Also, wish it has round exhaust tips like an M3. So we’re forced to spend money right out the gate to fix these things.
As the owner of a 2018 F80 M3 Competition I wish 4 wheel drive was an option on this too and I am a rear wheel drive ///M die hard ! A buddy of mine has an F90 M5 so I can see how devastating this system is and as you pointed out you can have it rear wheel drive if you like.It is superior to the rear drive car no question ! Me I will keep my F80 as that's one area I think the F80 is better looking but each to their own and all that , thanks for an informative and interesting comparison !
Wow, what an excellent review. No superfluous commentary, no tired old comments about the front end styling. Just succinct facts and details. Thank you. A new subscriber for sure. I am struggling trying to decide if I can give up my Jaguar F type V8S convertible and getting an M4 xdrive competition Convertible. This video is so timely. Here in Florida, traction is rarely an issue with hot roads and tires. But the Xdrive still seems the way to go especially since I track my cars. The only problem is, how will my wife respond to me keeping the F type and getting the BMW. Not well methinks..
A bit late to the party, but recently got into a G82 RWD having never had an RWD with so much welly. Yes, it can be a bit sketchy in the wet, but it is so incredibly entertaining and exciting. My previous was a Q60 AWD, and despite having 100hp less and being a bit heavier, it can accelerate faster in the wet. But is nowhere near as entertaining.
I coded out the fake engine noise on my M2c the moment I got it home from the dealership. Literally within 10 minutes. NFW I want to live with that fake racket.
I don’t know why they did this. I’d prefer them to offer a manual transmission as an option from the off rather than a 2 wheel drive to a 4. Great video thanks Jo
Its a bit strange that M division don't set there cars up properly and you have had to get yours tweeked. What have you had done to improve it? I have no issues with the grill on the M3, you barely notice its size with the numberplate crossing it.
Nice Video! Can you share more detail on what changes were made to improve the steering? My M4 Comp xDrive is due to arrive at port next week. The only thing it's missing is M Drive Professional. I'm second guessing myself.
I’ve driven both and hands down I’ll take X drive any day of the week. RWD is a maniac but the beauty of X drive is you can at least switch back and forth.
“Maybe you need to look at reasons why you wouldn’t want to buy an xDrive…” proceeds to tell us reasons why to buy the xDrive instead. BLAH HA HA! I’m sold
very nice video, and great cars. I am waiting for my x drive now. I will never get used to how narrow your roads are, like golf cart paths here in US. Enjoy
Many F80 owners have camber plates / coilovers for increased camber on the front. I wonder how much camber on the front of an xdrive G80 (with a driveshaft on the front) would be possible - for those wanting to track their car that would be quite important.
This is one of the most requested videos I've had in recent years, hope you enjoyed it! Massive thanks once again to my buddy Andy for helping me transport both cars to the location.
Have a great weekend everyone ❤️
Hey Joe, thank you for this great video! I have an idea for one of your next videos that you briefly touched on in this video - carbon-ceramic brakes. It would be very useful if you could compare day-to-day usability and what is the long-term cost (not just a single replacement). A lot of videos cover the racetrack aspect of carbons, but fail to explain how it's to live with them. I don't know if you would be interested in doing such a video, but from a SEO standpoint, it would probably do good as this topic is missing quality content.
Joe when you say its needs its GEO done what does that entail ?
Joe “doesn’t have the biggest production companies” behind him…. but produces some of the best content on TH-cam…. 👍💥
Thank you buddy 👊👊👊
@@JoeAchilles1 he isn't wrong 👌 I admire your honesty, decency and transparency in this modern world of self-fulfilling TH-cam content creators.
If carlsberg did car reviews
Couldn't have put it better myself...
I agree.
Knew this would be the one to have. Never would have thought it until I drove the F80 M5, then you realise x-Drive is actually awesome. Great video.
Yep it really is the one 👌 Cheers legend 👊
An F80 M5 does not exist. You mean F90.
"I don't have a massive production company behind me....!" Joe you could have fool me!... best BMW content in YT at the moment!!!! ... Thank you my friend!
Cheers buddy 👌
@@JoeAchilles1 you say that and refer to the cars being dirty afterwards. Couldnt a simple wash fix that problem? Lol. Even a spray down of water alone? That doesn’t seem too difficult.
Thanks for the videos! I thought that was a random remark on your end. I hope no one takes it the wrong way, it’s all love from me champ.
0-60 mph in 3.1 seconds by an M3? I still can't my head round that!! That's quicker than the McLaren F1 for crying out loud!
As fast as a Tesla Model 3 performance, that is amazing.
Yeh insane
Imagine a tune 🤪
@@marveysingh9592 imagine the low imagination guys who only care about how fast a car goes to 60, distegarding what makes a car a driver's car. I can already picture this, 5 years from now, their electric auto-pilot cars will do 60 in less than 3 seconds and they will brag about it.. as they would have something to do with it. #idiocracynow
@@eugenux well I drive a 6 cylinder rear wheel drive so 💨💨
I admire your honesty and objectivity Joe 👍
Cheers man
Dude driving like a legend. You've become a top 10 auto journalist. 200k subs by years end no question. Cheers Joe!
Joe has no idea how this video is gonna spark up another RWD vs AWD debate between the owners on the forums. For me, I had no choice since I wanted a manual transmission.
No production company but some of the best car videos out there. Top 5 for me. GO Joe
You're making me more excited for my xdrive order across the pond. Great video as always! Thanks for the comparison. 😎
Hi joe yes x drive for me any day, I’m on my second 335d x drive tourer and been thinking of changing it for the 340 x drive tourer D or petrol ? , anyway more importantly after 14 months of treatment for cancer 2 big operations 6 months of chemotherapy 4 weeks every day of radiotherapy, my wife finally had some great news that all is good, now checks every 6 months, anyway we have all been through hell and our 2 daughters have really struggled, i have phone calls in the middle of the night and driven up to bring them home from uni, so iv been thinking of getting them a track day experience for them both as they both love cars, could you recommend any for us, we are in Grantham Lincs, anyway if you need help testing any cars just ask i loved to help. All the best mate Andy
When your engine is in the front and the torque is getting to 500 lb*ft, you have two options; move the engine to the rear (like corvette did), or add a front drive... It's just physics
Move the engine to the rear on a 4 door saloon/sedan? Sure no problem. Front drive on a 500+ HP car? Sure no problem 👍🏾🤦🏽♂️
Absolute correct. The xDrive M3 Competition is the overall best car, period. Thanks, Joe Achilles for the explanation.
Reality for most people is they don't need the xdrive. Arguably the RWD is a purer car with the steering uncorrupted by drive power.
Joe Achilles, you are SERIOUSLY a proper reviewer on the best of BMWs like the M3 and M5.
A great comparison Joe. The xDrive does seem to be the best option, especially in the UK. That weight penalty really is negligible in a car of this size and power. I love the fact you can switch to rear wheel drive if you so desire. But I wonder in practice how often owners will actually do that? I’ll be fascinated to see if the same xDrive tech trickles down to the next M2…
It is available on the M240i.
I really love how BMW have made the xDrive as good as the RWD one :O, And also, The M3's looks have really grown on me just from watching Joe's videos 😅✨
Thanks for filming in 4K; it looks fabulous on my LG C1
Great to hear Peter 👌
Nice vid. I’d still have the RWD version
The xdrive is the ultimate and the fact you can switch the diff. It's awesome. Good video Joe, lots of support from South Africa 👌
Joe, we really need the M3 X Drive v M5 Competition. Lets see this, as nobody else has done this yet.
Don’t forget, if you do decide to jump into an Xdrive, the LCI will start production next summer so you might as well wait until the redesign, or then you’ll consider upgrading again!
Headlights are so important right
The question is - will they fix the face?
@@amiller2121 Why would they want to do that? It’s proved to be a big hit at this point with the exception of the leftover traditionalists. You guys are being left behind.
@ Brett Patton,
I know right?? Like it’s time to get over it. I’ve had all the M3/m4’s since the E36
And I like the new design. Since getting mine I find the f82 looks so much less agressive and even dated dare I say.
@@caribbeanseas f80 looks old now
Skyscraper grey best colour and with the 🍊 seats looks 👌🏻
Great analysis of carbon ceramic brakes for street cars.
I’m excited to try the xDrive M3. A RWD car with snow tires is pretty good in most winter conditions as long as it’s flat, but starting off and driving up steep slippery hills is often a no go, regardless of tires.Been there done that. Audi must be worried…
Slippery snowy hills is definitely where you’ll feel the additional traction. Fit some snow tyres on and it’ll be one of the most versatile performance cars available.
o forgot to mention I LOVE the FAKE ENGINE INTAKE sound being pumped into the cabin thru the stereo! ANOTHER BMW 1st! well done! :)
I would prefer manual and rear wheel drive M3. Great comparison Joe!
ok
Xdrive is amazing but I still prefer the 6 speed manual version :)
Congratulations in advance on your new M3 X Dr. Absolutely a no brainer year-round car where you live.💯🇬🇧
Some people call you a homer since you never talk negatively about bimmers, but I myself enjoy all your BMW vids, mate. Keep producing!
I’m becoming more and more convinced the xdrive M3 will be my next car. I do wonder how it compares with regards to cornering and grip compared to the Japanese 4WD/AWD cars, eg GTR, Evo, Scoobys. Maybe an idea for a future video Joe?
Great review ! Was happy with my RWD M4 till this cold wet morning haha
Good fun! I think AWD versions of most cars are normally the way to go... being Canadian, I have an obvious bias for that design.
“I don’t have a massive production company behind me…” Wow! Despite that, I’m always impressed and blown away…You Sir, are a legend!
What an awesome Video as always Joe. Love the honesty and entertaining reviews. I’m a bit of a 3-Series fan boy, and have had 15 of them from E30 325s to F30 335s…I always wanted an M3…so thanks for keeping the magic and passion alive!
Love your passion, attention to detail and special “BMW OCDNess” :)
From yet another Huge fan down in South Africa!
Cheers mate!
Definitely have the x drive, was there much difference in economy? Not an issue with 85 grand to rub together but helps with the range I guess.Very good camera work BTW.
Mate you drive a 70-80k m3 the last worry is 3 or 4 extra mpg! 🤣
It disconnects the front wheels at speed for mpg automatically
Great video as always…. You had me at ‘just better’ lol….. my only thought is will the new 2022 M2 be the better M car given the size and how good your review on the M240 was? 👀✌🏼😎
My 71 plate RWD car has those "DSG farts" i always wondered why i heard them in mine and not yours. I went for the RWD after coming out of 3 AWD cars. I fancied a change and challenge to be a better driver! Great content as always Joe, keep it up!
Another great review Joe, I hope you will soon review the new Audi RS3 and to see how it compares with the M3 Xdrive. I think the Audi is cheaper and may be slower than the M3 but nice to see what you think of it .
Give me the M3 competition X-Drive anyday over RWD.
It definitely depends on where you live and what you are using it for. If it is a weekend car… xdrive is probably irrelevant and a waste of money. As someone that drives a 3 series rwd all year round in the northern states, I don’t think xdrive is necessary. I owned a e46 3 series with all wheel drive and my f30 handles better in the elements(run snows in the winter). Now an M3 is a different league and I’m sure you can be more confident in the xdrive with that much hp. I’d def buy the g80 m3 with the manual… plenty fast for me/cheaper too.
Absolutely loving how good these new //M cars look!! Now with x drive! What a car!!
Is there any difference in steering lock to lock?
With the addition of the driveshafts, do you lose anything in turning circle or maximum drift angle?
It is the same.
I thought RWD is 15- 1 and X Drive is 14 - 1?
xdrive is the only way to go - is the best of both worlds. you can turn off the awd if you want and the mdm mode is basically RWD where AWD only saves you when you're about to crash. Also the xdrive is running 11.3 in 1/4 and 3.1ish to 60 so the numbers are a lot better than the RWD. A cheap tune and your running in the 10s... You can get on the gas earlier and rocket out of corners faster than the RWD. And its faster around a track than the RWD version. And its not like you're gonna notice the weight savings in the RWD version as the car is already pretty heavy. Wouldn't be surprised if all future competitions are xdrive on the model refresh while keeping the RWD manual for the purists.
Thanks for being honest about the real cost of ceramics. The real issue is the cost of replacing them if you use them hard on a few track days. It’s all nice and well for journalists that never own their cars to say how great they are.. but they are not the ones having to change pads or discs down the road…
Brilliant video. I’ve a G82 xDrive coming in around 2-3 weeks. Really enjoyed your G80/G82 vids this year. Great reviews and information.
Great review! Finally an all-wheel drive M3 that can be driven year round…dream come true for me living in Toronto, Canada!
The more I look at that front nose/kidney grill the more I love it! Hating on BMW new designs seems to be a popular thing to do nowadays 🙄
Thanks Joe for all the great content, analysis (and step outs hahaha). All-wheel-drive that you can transform into rear-wheel drive at the push of a button always seemed to me the best of both worlds-thanks for confirming how good it is when implemented well. Like you, I'm not a fan of fake engine sound so I just shut it off either through coding or by unplugging the control unit. Both ways work-did it in my F80 M3 and M2 Comp. Happy sliding!
Grey ❤️🔥with all the trimmings
I notice quite a few RWD cars (especially manuals) being traded in/up for the Xdrive
What a great comparison / review, top work.
Long live the Combustible engine
Like your video no matter what size of production you have behind.
👊👊👊👌❤️
At this point I assume the the one guy giving this great video a thumbs down is a guy who just took delivery of his non x drive m3.
Absolutely brilliant Joe. Wow, what a unit 👍
When you switch on XDrive to rear wheel drive only is completely disabling traction. (10 step Traction is not available in that selection too) is very dangerous.
It's very dangerous for someone who can't drive, the only time you would select rwd is if you want to do big skids.
You have to wonder why BMW would bother with the RWD car when you can have the xdrive and simply de-couple the drive train and turn it into a RWD car if you wish
I agree. The RWD M3 has become obsolete.
Joe CCB’s are best off track! They life almost half 100K miles. So your looking at 50K or more miles before you need to replace the pads. 100K miles for the routers! That’s if you don’t track them
By the way after watching your full video. My X3M Comp does have all of those little corky characteristics. The steering, the popping on hard up shifts, the rear wheel drive bios in sport mode and so on. My corvette 2019 Z06 with the Z07 automatic does the popping on up shifts like crazy. I have really started to like it.
Crystal-clear as a good teacher!
Once again an AWESOME review. Thanks Joe. Definitely XDrive for me. You mentioned something about "decoupling the front diff in 2wd mode" So does that actually give you a 0/100 split? Yes I also do like the fact it doesnt scream XDrive. Also man the brakes just kill me. I mean the F80 brakes look FANTASTIC!! 4 piston front and 2 piston rear. I thought the reasoning behind the small rear caliper is cause they incorporated an e-brake system. At my job there is a 2020 Hyundai Genesis G70. It has 4 piston brake front and 2 piston rear brakes. But they some how managed to incorporate an e-brake system. I really wish BMW would have had done the same.
I saw one of these at the weekend, really liked the look of the styling.
He thinks the way we do as enthusiasts which connects with me
When I ordered my 2022 G80 M3 competition, the options for x drive we're not on the build sheet. I actually had to call my salesman a couple times to add things, like Lazer lights, which are not part of the executive package anymore. And all of the M performance accessories. Kinda stressed me out, how BMW changed so many order options from 2021, to 2022. I'm really happy with my RWD, but definitely will be trying the AWD when, and if they do a LCI M3 G80. If they go all electric, I will probably jump to a GT4 RS. The new design for the GT4 Porsche is pretty enticing.
Joe I know so many people who have purchased new BMW's based on your reviews. I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a M240i xdrive with Tony off the back of your recent review.
In my opinion BMW UK should give e you an M3 xDrive long term loaner with the amount of exposure and sales you have given them over recent years. Maybe approach them if they haven't been in contact already. Plus you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of adding/maintaining the ceramic brakes if they supplied a high spec car.
Making me feel good about placing an order for an M340i xDrive even though I live in So. California. Just assumed it'd be the better car all around as a daily driver. With a mild tune it'll be in the 450+ HP range and I don't see why you wouldn't want AWD in that case.
Also interested in the same car. However, no carbon fiber trim option on the M340i even though the OeM parts exists aftermarket. Why not make it an option.? Also, wish it has round exhaust tips like an M3. So we’re forced to spend money right out the gate to fix these things.
Xdrive for me Joe but I love both of those wooooow the interior is so nice on the blue one!!
Nicely compared both of these wonderful concepts and stipulated the differences very understandably, thank you Joe!
It makes sense to you to get the xdrive since you still own an M2CP . It will balance your garage perfectly there in the wet UK.
Love the borderline outrage of the traction available on power leaving a corner:D
Thanks for confirming I made the right choice when ordering my M4 Competition X Drive. Now it's just the waiting game!
Skyscraper grey best colour obviously 😙
As the owner of a 2018 F80 M3 Competition I wish 4 wheel drive was an option on this too and I am a rear wheel drive ///M die hard ! A buddy of mine has an F90 M5 so I can see how devastating this system is and as you pointed out you can have it rear wheel drive if you like.It is superior to the rear drive car no question ! Me I will keep my F80 as that's one area I think the F80 is better looking but each to their own and all that , thanks for an informative and interesting comparison !
Great comparison Joe. Well done, yet again and cheers from Downunder...
Really enjoy your videos! Cannot wait to pick up my Isle of Man Green (on full Kyalami orange interior!) xDrive model.
I prefer the RWD only spec because it weighs roughly 110 pounds less.
Wow, what an excellent review. No superfluous commentary, no tired old comments about the front end styling. Just succinct facts and details. Thank you. A new subscriber for sure.
I am struggling trying to decide if I can give up my Jaguar F type V8S convertible and getting an M4 xdrive competition Convertible. This video is so timely. Here in Florida, traction is rarely an issue with hot roads and tires. But the Xdrive still seems the way to go especially since I track my cars. The only problem is, how will my wife respond to me keeping the F type and getting the BMW. Not well methinks..
Fantastic content as always, well done Joe
Love the go pro on the hood of the camera facing in angle. Soo dope!
Ordering the x drive. The extra performance and ability to change it to rear wheel makes it a no brainer.
A bit late to the party, but recently got into a G82 RWD having never had an RWD with so much welly. Yes, it can be a bit sketchy in the wet, but it is so incredibly entertaining and exciting. My previous was a Q60 AWD, and despite having 100hp less and being a bit heavier, it can accelerate faster in the wet. But is nowhere near as entertaining.
Great review. Please don't grab my spot for the X-drive M3 I've ordered off Tony, pretty please with knobs on :)
I coded out the fake engine noise on my M2c the moment I got it home from the dealership. Literally within 10 minutes. NFW I want to live with that fake racket.
I don’t know why they did this. I’d prefer them to offer a manual transmission as an option from the off rather than a 2 wheel drive to a 4. Great video thanks Jo
The Xdrive is MUCH BETTER. That extra traction really matters.
Enjoyed the video, Portobello blue for me!
OH I REALLY love that xtra large SPONGY STEERING WHEEL....looks like its straight out of a HOT WHEELS CAR!
unfortunately for me the rwd is the only option considering you can only get the manual transmission with rwd. Its very unfortunate.
Brilliant vid joe.👌🏻
Its a bit strange that M division don't set there cars up properly and you have had to get yours tweeked. What have you had done to improve it? I have no issues with the grill on the M3, you barely notice its size with the numberplate crossing it.
Nice Video! Can you share more detail on what changes were made to improve the steering? My M4 Comp xDrive is due to arrive at port next week. The only thing it's missing is M Drive Professional. I'm second guessing myself.
I’ve driven both and hands down I’ll take X drive any day of the week. RWD is a maniac but the beauty of X drive is you can at least switch back and forth.
Great video Joe, love the channel!
Thank you Tim 👊👊
amazing and objective review as usual. Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
“Maybe you need to look at reasons why you wouldn’t want to buy an xDrive…” proceeds to tell us reasons why to buy the xDrive instead. BLAH HA HA! I’m sold
epic video mate, as always 👌 been waiting for this one
Thanks legend 👊
Great video! This comparison was what I needed :D
Blue is best! ALso, good luck getting ANY M3....at least in the states.
It doesn’t matter which is better, I just want one 🤩
Me too bro both of the M3 are nice!!
very nice video, and great cars. I am waiting for my x drive now. I will never get used to how narrow your roads are, like golf cart paths here in US. Enjoy
Many F80 owners have camber plates / coilovers for increased camber on the front. I wonder how much camber on the front of an xdrive G80 (with a driveshaft on the front) would be possible - for those wanting to track their car that would be quite important.