Judges & Political Parties, Kapil Sibal With Dushyant Dave, Prashant Bhushan, Meenakshi Arora
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Such debate should be on TV. It's healthy and democratic talks and carry messages for public of the truth behind the judicial systems in India.
Sir ! Modi tv won't allowed
Sachin pilot
Rahul Gandhi
Varun Gandhi
Sasi tharur
Kapil sibal
DK Shivkumar
Revand Reddy
Priyanka Gandhi
Jairam Ramesh.... Great mindedness.. Great personality.
No hate speech... humanly gentle man.
Love to see them rulling India 🎉🎉❤
Listening to their interviews always been a joy.. inclusive politics.. ❤
Quite a few high courts are really of no use these days because of some judges uncontrollable inclination towards certain political parties!
Meaningful discussion . In case of appointment of judges of the Supreme Court and the High Courts, there must be full time Independent Committee free from incumbent executives ,incumbent justices and political parties.
In the matter of post retirement assignment of judges there must be cooling off period of atleast 5 yrs.
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Best debate we never come a cross. God bless all the participants.
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Good conversation by honourable advocates of the supreme court of India as great thinker for democracy and judiciary
I strongly believe this was the most fruitful and intellectual conversation I have seen ever. Hats off.
Very nice discussion regarding the judiciary by top intellectual lawyers . Just like us lawyers get valuable thoughts. Thanks.
Great souls great subject and great exchanges❤
We need these kind of programs more often. This will definitely educate the common man.
This is the assurance that we have intellectual people in India who love our country . May God use you all as a mighty instrument . Salute for this initiative.
The live law did a great job to Judiciary by the conversation and salute to all the stalwarts of legal field.
it is so soul satisfying to watch stalwarts like themselves, discussing the fault lines and seemingly worried about it. as long as they are there we are still in the fight, to me they are the last bastion standing.
Excellent programme and very intellectual conversation. All of you are doing yeoman service for the Indian public. Unfortunately Honble Apex Court has delayed taking up important cases on priority like Ayodhya , section 370 and Electoral Bonds.
Mr Bhushan ur an asset to India. People will know ur value one day. Thank you sir. Mr Sibal too
Really great conversation . Respect & Hats of to you all. 🙏
Good conversations long live
Excellent💯👍👏💯👍👏 program the issues were raised are real which have the deep concerns about the future of judiciary system and in what manners it can affect the future of indian democracy
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Courage...... It is a fuel for living democratic country.
They are top legal minds in India , iam proud of them
❤these conversations. Thank you.
Salute to These courageous personalities keep it up. God bless you. From Kenya.
Lawyers always proven as vigilant citizen .🙏
Omg ,
what’s going on in judiciary,we are believing up to now that, people will get a justice at last in judiciary body 😢
Thank you for bringing
Highly objective and frank interaction among our top people. It's not only the judiciary but the bar as well that has to be fiercely independent in order to save and uphold the Rule of Law. They would have to rise above purely personal gains.
You are right Dushantji constitutional fathers never imagined our leaders will go so mean.
We need more discussions like these...great work.
I absolutely agree with whatever they're saying. But when I heard sibal say the government shall not have any say in the appointment of judges... It was a 1000 deaths of Irony.
Great people in these tumultuous time
This is very much needed talk
Since judges get benefits from govt even after retirement , they may not be allowed any post under govt . After 5 years of cooling period they go for any post under govt but after surrendering all benefits being taken by them.
I m not judicial person but from audit background.
its basic sense you do not need law degree
Surrender Yadav the judge decided Babri demolition criminal case given Additional Lokal by UP Government.
Term of the govt. No judge can retire and join the ruling party, good point on discussion
Excellent reviews and knowledge to the highest core dear Adv Kapil sibal and team.....i want this relayed on every Indian languages that common man is concetised.....come with more episodes Sir.❤😊
It's good👍 suggestion❤❤
Dave Sir is right!!!!
salute to your vision and wisdom, what I could see there is no genuine views collaboration with the superior authorities of Supreme court.. It was a very impressive meeting by the Hon,able lawyers of the supreme court .May god bless them with courage to stand up for the right cause and provide the justice to save the Indian constitution ad democracy of Indi🙏🙏a
Live Law must have citizens also on debates.
wow gaint judges. salute to you all
God bless you with long lives.
Lot of debates like this should be conducted throughout the country regarding established independent National judicial academy appointment should be transparent merit on basis from lower court to apex court 2) new courts establishment on population ratio 3) discover easy way to common man go to higher courts or facilitate technology to the rural area people filing cases in higher courts 4) court experience must be considered in appointing judicial posts even for small courts also 5) in all court premises lawyers chambers must be established
Wonderful discussion
Thank you for this conversation 🙏
Jai Hind
Great to listen such enlightening conversation and thanks to all advocates for conducting such show the problems in the democracy at any aspect is not always due to the systemic problems but also due to the lack of ethical values and knowledge and The end of democracy is not possible unless its citizens are satisfied with living in an undemocratic environment, hence citizens should demand free and fair institutions from their elected government as the first priority to save democracy.
That is a very heartening hope!
Hats off intellectuals ❤
Intectual my foot.....crooks ,,,thieves lawyers
These fours are gems of our country
See the sensible disagreements ,we need such sensible information. Ideological inclination in the judicial is dangerous
Too good👍
Super insights given. I can understand what will happen if the correct action before time.
Good decision.
Good reporting .
Very good initiative by Sri kapil sibal
thank you sir hats off intellectual talks it is unfortunate to see some MP did not speak relevant problems concern states knowledge of subjects political parties select dynamic personalities as MP
vede vede jayate tatwa siddhi -With debate and discussion we can find the truth.Jai hind 🇮🇳🚩
I believe that in the arena of politico-legal conglomerations at the highest levels there shall be some high level blue eyed legal fraternity in each Political Party favouring each other. And there would be no surprise that such high level judicial level quid pro quo connections prevail in the Congress Party also. Such a discussion of that nature may also be telecasted please, if any.
Excellent views ❤❤❤❤
Sir I selute to all of you
Character building and character assessment at all levels of education and proper evaluation and using proper weightage for future career is something which we totallly lack at primary levels.
Great conversation.. rightly pointed out the current affairs.. This practice will kill our judiciary even if the president government is changed.. cooling period is a good option atleast
So called intelligent seniors advocates.
Excellent debate. Honest views. Sad state of Indian judiciary more since 2014.
Raj Canada
These eminent advocates should also talk about the huge number of pending cases and everlasting resolution.
Because of this delay in judicial process we have totally lost the confidence in judiciary as it gives preference to the cases of elites and rich people.
In 54 years of Congress rule, I wonder what Congress party might have done to Judiciary when even media was not free in those times (mainstream is not free even now), if this much harm BJP can do in just 10 years of continous rule.
Democracy is a myth just as privacy is in present digital age.
Really enjoyed it.
I believe the collegium, bar councils, and civil society should have discussions and set a high bar of both morality and submission to the Constitution along with yearly transparent service review based on the judgments decided, withheld or kept pending/reserved for weeks and months.
This development is expected since of late the top court has observed ( recent TAMILNADU CASE )that being a sympathizer of a political party is not a disqualification for the post of judgeship. Please remember today's politics is not the one we saw in 60's.
This discussion must be on the TV. Any Judge who joins party in one year after retiring must go to jail, this guys are not true judge, but cannot given this type of judges
Here in kerala also certain judges express spl inteterest on certain matters if it is against govt.
Good discussions, analysis and opinions. With what little knowledge I have about
politics and judiciary, l feel the
discussion would have been
better if you had included two other personalities of different
features, this team is a group of birds with the same feature
which will naturally flock together. Hope you do this in
your next discussion, to make
it more fruitful.
❤Gems❤
COLLEGIUM SYSTEM IS NOT AT ALL GOOD BUT IT IS MORE INDEPENDENT THAN IF THE APPOINTMENT WERE WITH THE GOVERNMENT ❤agree with Prashant Bhushan
I feel right wings people and lawyer and ex judges who finds themselves ideologically on same page .... They wrote the 2 open letters after watching these videos of Kapil sibbal n live law 😅
I feel these videos have point
Apart from the criteria of eligibility, as a concern citizen, i think the best way forward are: to ban judges from any post retirement office including rajya sabha seat, independent judicial committee to review the performance of judges of SC as well as HC before appointed him as a judge, and remove the law minister from the collegium system..
Meenakshi nailed the fundamental issue. We have become a value-degraded society - a self-centric society, and so everything is up for grabs in the name of being 'successful'. The rot has to change right from our homes and school. We need to inspire our young minds to be fearless and push for values one cherishes as opposed to being cowered in fear all the time.
Whatever opinion learner d law practitioners have but one thing is sure ultimately IT IS A MAN WHO MATTER
You eminent lawyers efforts may save the polarising present scenario in the country.
Very good conversation
I wish from this kind of discussions our news media could learn something
Thanks to Kapil sibbal sir for initiating this
Best of luck !
Sir
What is your take on the "Advocates"Protection Act" ?
Mr. Sibbal is absolutely correct
Reminded of the lyrics of a movie, quote “जिन्हे नाज है हिंद पर वो कहा है”, well here they are!
Considering Mr Dave's opening remarks..why wud POLITICAL paties entertain any judge in the first place unless they give biased judgement in favour of the political parties
A new law is required to keep the principles of neutrality, impartiality and dignity of judiciary for function ing healthy democracy in our country. Actually it is worrisome, that our judiciary going to lost its dignity. So, God save the Supreme Court had to written by Justice F. S. Nariman.
Yani ki soocho !! Agar Kapil Sibbal or Manu Singhavi agar CJI bana diye jate to kya hota????
Very good to listen to some hope for the better future for our country.
No one should be appointed for at least for five years after retirement.
The retirement age should be increased for Supreme Court at least on the lines of USA/ or upto 70 years.
Retirement at 60/ 65 yrs. is making many Govt. Employees for seeking alternative jobs. Nowadays people can work for 70 yrs. due to better health.
In the training at the time of recruitment the moral values and ideals specially the aspect of Dharma should be stressed. I had seen it vibrant in the villages at the time of Independence.
'Sathyameva Jayathe', was inscribed in our National Emblem. The educational system and the elders should think and develop "Healthy Public Opinion", which Gandhiji effectively used.
The public awareness in this bonds case should be an eye opener and it should be continued for the betterment of public life and the image of our great country with great cultural heritage.
I hope and wish people like you will continue the public debate developed at this time.
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All India judicial exam should be conducted where directly district judge should be selected.only those judges should be promoted to be elligible for high court and Supreme Court judge.merit should prevail
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Topic is more serious than it digest , because person seating on Judge seat and delivering judgment under expectation of reward from ruling government can not able to give right judgment and which case damage to victim is not repairable
so what is difference between corrupt police and this kind of judges
Ram Nam Satya ha Satya bolo gatya ha guru Bina gati nahi sahi hona chahiye kapil chto
Still few judges in Kolkata High Court are behaving still as a political cadre.
Pl. see Sir.
Wow what a wonderfully enlightening discussion. This current saffron sanghi savarkar mentality wave has taken Indian discourse/debate/discussions back to the stone age apes. Glad to see that still there is some sense prevailing.
What about the guys employing plum posts under Congress.
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Nothing shall happen. We cannot change the direction that the entire profession of law has taken. Our British Rulers politically united us and brought a system of law with which they were familiar. Without delving into their motives, we must acknowledge that they were successful in implementing what they thought good for maintaining the law and order. It would be obvious that they did not take up the task tinkering with the law based on custom . They did try to make uniform civil code. But they maintained the system of law and order to highest degree they could. They did not interfere with normal courts except in the cases when they were threatened with ouster. They appointed persons of moral integrity lest people may not go against them. The constitution of India is based upon the laws made by the British. We could not maintain the same respect for law by persons administering it because we are divided by religion,caste,community, race etc. Gradually we have reduced our constitution as a source power rather than an outline for governance of the vast country of so many divisions . Power rules us all and we do not care for poor and downtrodden because of their birth in poor family. Judges too are power hungry and they want to maintain it as ong as possible.
Court should sup moto order not to appoint any judges after retirement for minimum 5 years and any such appointment should be with the approval of a committee to be appointed by apex court .There will be nothing else if people loose faith in judiciary
Discussion was started with former justice of Calcutta High Court, Gangopadhyaya; resigning and within 48 hours joining the ruling party: Can we say it is like Campus Recruitment
just because judgment is not in your favor it cannot be construed as biased and quid pro quo ...this notion iteslf compromises independence of judiciary.
Unbelievable understanding was and is delays in Proceedings are being allowed based on Senior Advocates having to attend Personal Wedding functions, birthday parties or not in the mood to attend hearing etc. Its so sad. We are awaiting justice since 2017 and the Developers are buying time at will and ready to flee the country with Crores and crores of rupees.
Court. Is unbelievable organization
A bunch of traitors ,some alleged
A bunch of traitors and bafoons are not controlling the nation... Psycho sangis can never digest intellectual discussions and truth..
This scintillating interview with four of the finest of lawyers in the nation’s top court - is really welcome and timely.
However the problem goes long back- as far back as Justice MC Chagla’s tenure - when he lamented about the state of the judiciary and foresaw its imminent decline. This was during the heyday of socialism when the salaries of judges- then- was sought to be capped at Rs 4000/- per month.
Justice MC Chagla had graduated from Oxford and his background and rectitude and integrity weighed heavily on the Bar even though he was a tad elitist- but then the elitism that manifested itself then- saw to it that men of sterling reputations were appointed to the Bar and the Bench.
Today, the bar is so low that one finds that some of the drafting could be described as trash and in telegraphic English. I had the misfortune of appointing Mr Mihir Desai for some private matter - and was disappointed with the kind of output that he and his junior staff produced. The drafting was pathetic and he never had the time to listen to his clients who were paying through their noses to have him as counsel. He was always chasing the limelight and on one occasion, when my wife and I decided to visit him in one of his offices in Dadar, a Mumbai suburb, he was in consultation with a lady who was fighting the current regime in cases relating to the Godhra episode in 2002. He was more attentive to her tribulations and experiences than he was to his clients whom he neglected and never bothered to speak up for them. One was sure that he was fighting pro bono for this lady but he was doing so on the strength of the monies his clients were paying him.
I think Ms. Meenakshi Arora was spot on when she decried the loss of character and moral values in the current generation. The fact that character building has gone for a toss, shows the deep rot within and which could plague not just the judiciary but every other arm of civil society-in the long run.
One thing that needs to be focused on is the extent and willingness to maintain British traditions and values infused into the judiciary, civil services, the armed forces and other organisations- we need to keep them and cherish them because it has been proven that whichever country has cherished these values, they have been successful in warding off the intrusive tentacles of the government of the day- Kenya being one example which this gathering spoke and extolled about.
The current regime, with its stress on the indigenisation of the armed forces, will tamper with the traditions of the judiciary as well- there’s no knowing as to what might happen next- even though a prognosis can be made. They tampered with the British traditions of Universities- especially an imposing one like Bombay University- and decided to make it sound and appear more trashy than it is.
Palkhivala, one of Bombay High Court’s leading luminaries and one who repeatedly denied the offer of judgeship despite being offered the same no fewer than three times- exemplified this behaviour when it came to protecting the traditions that the colonisers left for us. In a lighter vein , when asked about the renaming of Bombay to Mumbai, he’d exclaimed that : “a rose by any other name will not smell as sweet in this case”. Parsis in general exemplified these trends and they’re delightful and graceful in the Bar and on the Bench.
The subtle vernacularisation of education and the propensity of allowing lumpen elements to get into the civil services because of this facility of allowing potential aspirants to appear for the exams in Hindi and other vernacular languages, will prove my point. Gone are the days when the ICS strode like a colossus in undivided India- exceptional men- who worked and strove hard- to transition India from a former colonial vassal to an independent, democratic country that could rightfully claim its place amongst the comity of nations as a lodestar of newly formed nations emerging from the shadow of colonialism. Zareer Masani’s “Macaulay” must be read and ingested by every Indian and the late Nirad C Chaudhuri’s works also need to be read for their insights into what the British left us and what could happen if we were to neglect or do away with those traditions.
In fact , even as we write, speak or deliberate on these aspects, the nation’s values in almost all aspects of life- are going for a toss
Rosen John
This discussion would have been democratic if there was someone from the other side also participating