Valve is NOT DONE With the Steam Deck
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 เม.ย. 2024
- Some people think we need a Steam Deck 2 sooner rather than later. I'm not so convinced.
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The Steam Deck single-handedly converted me to PC gaming. Being able to hit the power button and instantly play for 5-10 minutes at a time has allowed me to get back into gaming for the first time in years. This thing is revolutionary.
Definitely understand this as a dad now and avid gamer we still have lifes to live mobile gaming always was my jam and I Love consoles
Before I got my drivers license I was playing 3-4 hours a day on my compute to work, the steam deck has been such a blessing during rush hour and long waits at the airport
It is a PC with console gaming experience
I need to do this more. I pick up my phone more frequently than my Steam Deck. I need to put away TH-cam more often.
I've had a similar experience. Being able to play without being tethered to a couch or a desk has been game changing for my lifestyle. I've beaten more games since I've gotten the deck then I have in years.
My daughter broke her arm last night, and is getting used to all the things she can't do - such as play with a normal controller. I love my Deck already, but the ability to change all the controls so she can play games, one handed using only one side and the track pads, is incredible. It made her day. What a great and versatile device.
Wow thanks for sharing that. Steam input is def an amazing feature. Hope your daughter has a speedy recovery!
May she recover as soon as possible.
Fantastic story. This is what technology is for…helping people ❤ Good luck to her getting better and you
Also a software developer, I had pretty much abandoned PC in favour of console for the ease of use and low entry cost. The Steam Deck is the only thing that brought me back, I can tinker as little or as much as I want and I have fewer stability problems than I ever did on PC with driver issues, crashes etc. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I definitely have fewer issues. I totally agree, I just want to sit back and relax in the evening, not be reinstalling drivers because my favourite game has decided to start crashing.
I don't think people understand how much software devs hate friction 🤣
@@FanTheDeck Thats still person by person... I'm a software developer I love tinkering with PC games and Linux and junk like that. Hate consoles.
I just recently got my own steam deck and honestly, and entirely on my part, it's just been overwhelming and at times frustrating because I went straight to installing Minecraft and Skyrim modpacks as well as a few plugins and such.
That being said, neither of those took more than a day which is a win in my book.
Just hope I get used to the touchpad aiming controls so I get to play, more than 2% of my library (mostly shooters)
As another Software Developer, I’ve been beating the drum of going from PC to consoles as well and then the Steam Deck also brought me back for the exact same reason.
@@FanTheDeck definitely! I used to love messing around with computers, it's how I came to find programming. But once you get enough of that at work the last thing you want is more after work
Crazy that's been already 2 years
Right?
@FanTheDeck, have u ever heard of fitgirl Repack or dodi Repack or uTorrent?
It really does feel like 2 years. It felt like 3 years to me tbh.
The leap I beg Valve to do is Standalone VR headset powered by SteamOS.
But maybe that's just me.
Nah that'd be amazing
I can't wait for Deckard to be a reality...
But I hope they take from some other examples and use micro-OLED displays
Meaning in a much smaller, lighter form factor... that might take another year I think
No, its not just you. I've had an original Quest since 2020, and I've disliked the whole Facebook/Meta aspects of it. Now that support for it is drying up faster than a puddle in the desert, I've been hoping Valve would make a similar standalone VR unit to compete. As soon as they do, I'm going to jump on it.
like a quest 3?
That or allow it to be optomized to play with either the index and other existing vr headsets, it'd be welcomed
Mostly a console gamer for life here, but lately the itch to try the steam deck was too much. Snagged the entry level model for $225 on marketplace. Truly loving this machine and its hybrid approach.
$225 is such a steal. That's awesome! Glad you're enjoying
Dude that’s sick! $225 is a hell of a price for the steam deck. Hope you’re enjoying it!
@@jimmychops9125 thank you, I was excited to be able to try one out for the price. I am loving it! Emulation is amazing on it, and taking those older games on the go is a game changer. It works great for indies and smaller games too.
I'm a software developer as well, got the steamdeck oled! I must say even if I have a capable machine which can play games! At the end of the day, I just want to get off that screen that I've been working on! Jump in couch hit the power button, and straight get back in the game the way I left it with zero-issue to encounter in the middle! I already have my time settle to ticker, debug do stuff get angry other time! When I want to game let me game in peace!
Amen!
“Deck gang out” IS BACK BABY!
We back!
I also think people shouldn't be so eager for a steam deck 2, because as the Phawx said, "valve aren't very good at counting to 3" (paraphrased)
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I always found it interesting that the Steam Deck Dock was not called the Steam Dock because it's a single character change and still gets the Idea across so I personally see that naming decision to be evidence for a more traditional console version called the Steam Dock with higher specs.
Probably to make it precisely clear it’s for the steam deck. We don’t know what they plan on making in the future.
And the steam deck also has become most like a brand, like PlayStation is to Sony.
(There’s also the case of if someone makes a type, it’s clear what it supposed to be I guess)
Only two years? That's not old. The steam deck is a beast of a machine. If you know how to fiddle with it you can almost play any game past and present. This machine is full of limitless potential.
No cap, I love the plugins 🫡
No cap, I love the plugins 🫡
@@idkidk1952 what plugins?
Thing is, Steam Deck users, as this video says "Don't like to tinker". TOO many titles, both old and new, require you to go to desktop mode and screw around in folders instead of just hitting up options and changing a few settings. I am NOT going to mess around with Linux, as a Windows man since Win98, when I can just boot up games Deck can't run normally on my Ally.
Can't get it to run Dragon's Dogma 2 at a decent framerate, and with good graphical quality. Best I've seen anyone run it at looked pretty bad and was at like 20fps outside of Vernsworth (the fps killer). Ally runs it like a champ at just below medium settings. I bought an Ally JUST for this occasion last December, because I had a suspicion the Deck couldn't handle DD2 well enough for me to enjoy. Glad I did.
Regarding the tinkering argument: I think there's a difference between tinkering because you WANT to VS HAVING to tinker for things to even work in the first place
I had to tinker to make it work
A steamdeck 2, I would guess, would come out at the 5 year or 6 year mark. I hope they'd keep a similar form factor because I really like how it's set up
the streaming works so good i cant imagine a reason to upgrade to be honest. once they get hdr in there and reduce the latency to that of moondeck i dont think ill ever sit at my pc again for anything that's not a competitive shooter
I doubt it would be THAT long. And if it is, the time may still be shortened as soon as Nintendo gets their update out of their derriere
There's a good chance they'll release both their VR headset and a new Steam Machine before a next gen Steam Deck.
I'm not kidding, btw. There's a legitimate chance of a new Steam Machine releasing alongside Valves' new headset, which would both work in tandem for console-like PCVR gaming.
There's leaks, patents, code names, and photos of a weird console in their office from like 2019.
My only hope is that we also get an official Steam OS distro for general systems.
@@pixels_per_minute well that's in line with what I want lol
It would be nice to have a hybrid "standalone" that is low cost, with the option of spending a grand on a high powered box that turns its performance up to 11. Even if they're just upping the Streaming potential like oculus air link
@@pixels_per_minute I hope so. I'm still on the vive1 just because I cant stand teh terrible black levels on the newer vives and the steam vr is outdated at this point. Just waiting waiting for the VR kit that hits the mark. id way rather a new vr than a new deck. a new steam controller would be nice too mines showing its age. ill use the steam deck in remote play forever if i have to i dont mind i cant tell the difference between native anyway and i just use it to play on the couch / in bed i dont take it anywhere.
Whether or not the steam deck is "showing it's age" really depends on what games you're trying to play on it. You may as well say you only play AAA games, and if that's the case you probably shouldn't have bought a steam deck in the first place. Meanwhile indie games and older gems work a dream, and that back catalogue is getting bigger and bigger as Valve continues to push for more and and more games to be deck verified. I'm particularly interested in seeing more games from the PS360 get ported to PC (or verified if they are already ported), because they would run perfectly on deck (and the xperia and rpcs3 emulators still leave a lot to be desired).
If you download the preview channel plus change vram to 4gb , it actually has great performance and you use less watts wich is crazy 🤯
In the meantime, I play AAA games all the time on my Steam Deck OLED and just enjoy them... Turning-off the fps counter helps have fun instead of focussing on technical fine-tuning!
Emulation pretty much only for me
Here's the truth and it always has been. You don't have to upgrade every cycle. People clammering that the steamdeck apu is from 2020. Heres some news for ya, google how the 1080 ti is holding up at 1080p to this day.
that thing is a dang beast
The SteamDeck is still a King. People only want a Steam Deck 2 because there is no Steam Console. If valve launched a powerful Steam Console and VideoCard addon that turned the Steam Console into the Steam Console Pro, kind of like Xbox Series X/S. Then people would not want a steam deck 2 so quickly. Also, imagine if you only needed to buy an addon to turn series S into series X.
Steam Deck needs to be sold in every store. I love mine, but not enough people have access to it.
Disagree. Everyone has access to the steam website. Up to the individual to buy one .
I think it would still help of they release it into stores
@markdebruyn1212 it wouldn't help Valve. As of now they get 100% of the profit from steamdecks. Selling in different stores will cut into that profit. It would be a bad idea. This is a steam device and should only be sold on steam. But I see Amazon sells them
@@lillpoetboy Why would you disagree with more people having access. If the iPhone was only sold at Apples website, they would lose 90% of their sales.
@@lillpoetboysteam website says they're not selling to my region at the moment, so no, I still have to contact oversea game shop to ship it to me with including taxes and shipping fees to make it wayyyy more expensive than it needed to be.
It's funny how a lot of PC gamers said windows is for gaming. Yet a lot of people said deck is less problematic 😂 it makes me proud as a Linux fan❤
To be fair, it used to be the case, but Linux just needed someone to come up with a package solution that just works, SteamOS isn't perfect but for a lot of gamers, it just works.
Linux could have done this themselves but there are too many voices pulling in all directions.
At the end of the day, for Linux to gain any traction, it needed software compatibility with Windows software, it doesn't matter how it's done, just as long as it works and performs, Valve are doing that with Proton, after all, most users and gamers don't care what is under the hood, but they do care if the software and games run or not, basically, Linux needs strong software compatibility with Windows for many of us to consider Linux, after all, I'm sure you've heard it a million times how many have said, they would like to move to Linux but it doesn't have this or that software, I've heard it countless times that software compatibility is the number 1 issue that holds many of us from adopting Linux, that's slowly changing thanks to the Steam Deck, but more can be done.
Windows is good for desktop but not for portable gaming. A dedicated os always works better. A big difference.
The games I play... I havent had a problem with The Steam Deck being 2 yrs old... gawd have I had mine that long.
I don't play AAAs on the steam deck.
I don't play AAAs at all.
And if a game can't run on the steam deck, I simply run it on the pc.
All the support I need is for valve making sure these games run and the controls work. The SD is the perfect device for price-for-performance for indie titles and the 6-12 year old games in my backlog.
I just got my OLED version last Dec, and I've been playing with it ever since. Gotta say, Valve made a hella awesome hand held. Truly the king of hand helds 😁
I'm glad you're back, bro. we missed ya🎉
Always good to be back, Alex - thanks for the support :)
One thing every reviewers fail to mention is Steam deck has a learning curve. It may be easy but some people just don't have the time to learn it. I myself even as a computer major, did get frustrated here and there mainly because I'm used to windows and there's bunch of resources you need to read up to ensure you did it correctly. It is a beast of a machine, but I wouldnt really recommend it to casual gamer
if mobile pc handhelds were cars, the rog ally and and legion go are sports cars, the steam deck oled is the comfy van where u bring the whole family on vacation
Steam deck is a Honda crv. It's still AWD and goes 120 mph
No the Steam Deck is a Subaru STI. It will run on mud, snow, tar, gravel. Anything you throw at it.
I wish sports car were that affordable lol.
But I do agree with what you are saying, but really, the Steam Deck would have to be much cheaper for that to be the case because the price to performance from the Deck to rivals is quite small.
ROG ALLY and LENOVO LEGION GO can run Dragon's Dogma 2 and STEAM DECK can't kewk.
I would hate to see a steam deck 2 right now knowing what hardware is out there available to them currently. They kind of struck gold with the APU they use in the steam deck because for so many reasons except power it is perfect for handheld gaming. Battery life is good, efficiency is great and it plays most games just fine… the steam deck is the first device I ever used to emulate games and it was incredible because my childhood memories were not ruined, emulation is so good today that when I play old games it appears how my brain remembers it 😂 if I play on original hardware my memories are ruined because I don’t remember them looking so bad but upscaled emulation and other tweaks you can do in emulation software keeps my memories intact and it’s just epic… not steam deck exclusive ofcourse because we have so many devices that can do it but the deck just gets it so right.
Valve just know what they are doing, they know why the deck works, nobody wants 30w plus and 1 hour gaming while still not achieving 60fps in reality. I hope valve wait as long as they need to get it right second time round.
I would be fine with a steam deck 2 around 4-5 years after the first one. I am still enjoying my lcd steam deck and think that in a few years we will have the next gen Radeon graphics that valve can make a custom chip with. Looking forward to see what they do next
I had a Steam account for about a decade that I rarely touched but ever since I got the LCD steam deck my PC gaming has exponentially increased. Now if a game comes out for all systems I prefer to get it on steam over all other platforms. My only gripe with the deck would be that I wish it did have a high performance profile so that I could play the more demanding 3D games at the sacrifice of battery life. I'm fine with all low settings at 30 FPS because I only play single player games anyway. I also rarely play for longer than two hours at a time. I was really intrigued with the ally but decided to go with the OLED instead and have no regrets.
Plot twist: Valve did churn out a new model, it is called the Steam Deck OLED
Valve is genius literally has crafted the new entry level PC and it comes with its own controlller and screen when you think about it, a new era
Totally agree about the physical presence of the Steam Deck at your local stores. I was really looking to get a feel for it and experience it before buying and although i am completely happy with my purchase after a lot of research, I truly dont believe that a regular consumer would be swayed into getting one.
I loved the term "gracefully transition" I believe the Deck truly embodies that, as a concept, from navigating the UI, launching games, editing controls, etc. it handles everything not only easily but with a grace proper to the device, the only times I feel I'm "struggling" is when using a third party dock or controller, I still have my steam controller from back in the day and having valve build an ecosystem around their next step in hardware would be a dream come true. Thank you for the amazing video and keep up the good work!
I use my SD as my daily driver. I do notice a bug with Steam Desktop client that can make the entire desktop "Freeze" but I wind up avoiding those features. (Trying to watch a broadcast can trigger this) but for the most part, I don't have much to complain about. It gets the job done.
love that fact that having a PC that i can take with me everywhere as a daily driver just hits different, vs having a stationary desktop. I can't wait til we have them in the size of a Switch Lite someday with decent hardware.
Yeah there's still more work to do on the software front for sure. It's much better than Windows (for now) but it could still be better
@@FanTheDeck Much agreed! I hope some of these quirks are known!
So many new games but beat gato robato, started Haiku the Robot, still working on cookie cutter and began Last Hero of Nostalgia!
Gato Roboto and Haiku are excellent!!
Added some *QoL* *improvements* for my Steam Deck 512 LCD over the weekend….
*Redream:* For some reason, this won’t launch from the EmuDeck/EmulationStation. I was stuck using Flycast and didn’t like how some games ran from it. I needed Redream to be a standalone emulator but still launch from the Steam library.
My other big issue with Redream is it won’t remember the path if the Dreamcast ROMs were placed in the folder where EmuDeck reads them from. So I had to separate all my Dreamcast games from the big emulation folder. It’s now in the internal storage next to the Redream files and it can now remember the path. Also, changed redream to redream.exe from the actual file name because Steam can’t find it if it’s the former. Then edited the name again in the Steam gaming mode menu.
Dreamcast games plays closer to flawless again. Dreamcast is my 2nd favorite console of all-time and it bothered me that I couldn’t use the emulator I wanted until figuring it out over the weekend. The only thing is the games won’t show up in EmulationStation anymore. I can live with it as long as I can play the games nicely.
*Pluto* *TV:* Since getting the Pluto TV and Tubi apps about 5+ years ago, I rarely use Netflix anymore. Pluto TV is a Paramount service but three of my favorite sitcoms are on there. All I want from it is a channel that plays The Golden Girls all the time. Maybe toss in Martin, The Wonder Years, Doogie Howser MD, and another comfort soup show like Northern Exposure.
Doogie Howser and The Wonder Years used to appear on ABC, so they’re more likely owned by Disney. I do love the Price is Right channel during the Bob Barker era. Watched a little of it last night. It’s the game show I’d watch if I wasn’t in school or during summer vacation. I can live with the ads as long as it’s free and they have a great selection of content which they do.
I personally don’t need any of them on any streaming service since all I do is use torrents and then save them on my Google Photos using an old Pixel 3 which has unlimited storage saver for life. The limit is 1080p. Everything from Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon, Loki, WandaVision, Andor, The Mandalorian, The Boys, Mike Judge’s Beavis and Butt-Head, Stranger Things, Cobra Kai, Heels, Ted (2024), Monarch: Legacy of Monsters, they’re all there uploaded on my Google Photos.
This June is going to be packed: House of the Dragon S2 vs. The Boys S4 vs. The Acolyte? I think HOT D wins out. The lore is more interesting. But I do love The Boys.
*Tubi:* If you know movies like I do, Tubi has superior content over Netflix. I have an account and basically keep adding movies on my watchlist. Tons of foreign and softcore porn movies! Has many of the Showa Godzilla movies. Has my Gilligan’s Island too while Pluto TV covers I Love Lucy, Three’s Company, and Married…with Children. Pluto TV + Tubi are practically unbeatable since they’re free. Just need to live with the ads. Rewatched Get Out (2017) again on Tubi last night.
*Kodi:* So I couldn’t really create an app to add to Steam for Google Photos using Microsoft Edge. So what I’ll do instead is download some movies and TV shows from my Google Photos and save it onto my Deck. Then will have Kodi play it. I was going to use VLC but it doesn’t seem it can be added onto Steam. And Kodi seems to have a much nicer interface.
I have over 1400 movies and tons of TV shows in one of my three Google Photos accounts. But the only one downloaded for the Steam Deck is video game related. It’s a documentary called Console Wars (2020) which can be found on Netflix. I read the Blake J. Harris book back in 2014. I may include 8-Bit Christmas (2021), both live action Sonic movies, and the recent Super Mario movie for it.
I really want a complete set of the animated Shenmue series on my Steam Deck. I use magnetdl and I can’t find it complete. While I love the original Final Fantasy VII game, I didn’t care for Advent Children. That movie dragged. Most of my favorite TV shows and movies are on my multiple Android smartphones.
The other ones added are TH-cam, Gmail, Reddit, Firefox, and Microsoft Edge. That’s a total of 10 “non games” if you include the 4 other ones mentioned earlier and EmulationStation. I set every app / website launcher to the native resolution of 1280 x 800. Looked through Google images to crop thumbnails for each of them. What really boosted my experience was finally figuring out each controller template. Set most of them to web browser and it’s like browsing from a tablet.
This thing can be used for a decade if you really wanted to. Just replace the battery every few years. When I got my Deck nearly two months ago, battery health (which can seen under desktop mode) read 97%. But I’ve been using it so much, it’s down to 92%. I honestly thought I would barely use it after the initial honeymoon phase wore off but it’s been the complete opposite for me and I carry it with me every day since I’m a gig driver.
The Steam Deck is frickin’ amazing. If I’m bored playing games, I’ll use it to do something else like watch porn or read Reddit posts. I only bring one smartphone now because the Steam Deck is so complementary to any smartphone whether it’s iPhone or Android since it’s essentially a PC as well. It’s the G.O.A.T. It made me less interested for the Switch 2. F Nintendo! Cheers to Valve! 🍻
Great video :) Solid arguments are very well brought up.
Had a legion go and returned it for the steam deck oled. Couldn’t be happier. As you mentioned, life gets busy and sometimes you have 0 want to tinker with settings. Steam deck oled is absolutely perfect for me and is helping me get through my back log of games. For any high demand games I have my pc with a 4080 or ps5.
I think USB C 5 ( thunderbolt 5) is what valve is waiting for.
Nice one, Rich! I switched from console to PC Gaming many years ago, and I feel like this actually turned me away from gaming in a way. Maybe because I spent the whole day working in front of a PC, the desire to sit in front of it to game started to fade away. I know a lot about tikering with PC's and PC games, but I just didn't want that anymore. I just wanted to sit down and play like the old times, and the Steam Deck managed to get me back to that. I don't think just because we know how to tinker and all, we want to do this all the time on Windows and always choose this path instead of the ease fo use we can find on Deck with SteamOS...
Can't believe how good the steamdeck is, i think its very valid not wanting to tinker and trouble shoot stuff, for the amount of work valve has put in software layer i just want it to keep improving, funnily enough i also consider rog ally the closest experience to a decent competitor holding it just feels right.
What I’d like see them do is have a framework like approach modular parts and easy repairability.
I actually had someone in public notice me gaming on my Steam Deck the other day and they asked if it was a Steam Deck which I of course responded with a yes. Also my boss at my previous job noticed me playing my Deck while on break and he was impressed so at least in the area where I live Steam Deck is slowly but surely becoming a known name.
Loving your bold ideas! I think you are right, a $200-300 dock that adds those big tv home console vibes would be awesome. Maybe a "pro-version" that's like a $300-500 sku as a competitive wireless VR bundle too?!
You got your baller setup at home and your indie game battery saver on the go.
Just bought Stem Deck OLED next to LCD. It does not showing any signs of ageing
Absolutely. What kind of games do you play on it?
@@FanTheDeck Triple A. And LCD version manages it easily... OLED will acompany me on travels due longer battery life
@@pookanoid 🔥 Love to see it
@@pookanoid steam deck is amazing and i prefer it to my rog ally quite significantly for so many reasons but we are living in cloud cuckoo land if we think these things are AAA gaming machines and they manage it easily, AAA gaming is quite frankly pretty dogshit on any handheld, its nothing but major compromise in every way, usually low settings, usually not native resolution etc its just a novelty at best. Go grab balatro, set the deck to 4w, enjoy smooth 60 or even 90fps, bask in the 12 hours of battery life and thats peak steam deck gaming. Then get emudeck sorted and play retro games, ps1, ps2, gamecube, whatever really - at much higher fidelity than they were originally and still get massive battery life, this is just the deck in its absolute element.
far be it from me to tell you what to enjoy though, if you play AAA games and the performance is good enough for you then good on ya dude, enjoy it!
@@pookanoidno Dragon's Dogma 2 for you kewk.
The OLED has been amazing. The sleep mode feature has come leaps and bounds as well, it used to crash quite often for me on the LCD around launch
Being able to hop in/out has really helped me make tracks in games and check out series I've slept on. Its a much better middle ground than the switch when I'm able to just bounce my cloud save and continue on my set up.
Making an effort to play lots of titles I've missed out on and work excellently on the deck. Its very versatile and all the features just make it seem premium and well thought out. As an accessory to my desktop, its great.
1) Great video, love the push for ambition. "Shoot for the moon, even if you miss you'll land among the stars.
2) Where did you get your shirt?
Man I remember when you started your channel! You've become the go to guy for Steam Deck news its crazy its been 2 years already 😮
I don't think this system is showing its age. I love this thing as my daily out on the go drive. At home I have main main rig but at work the steam deck is great for those downtime hours and I need something to do.
A lot of the big AAA games I have have got working pretty well and stable like Horizon Zero Dawn, Cyberpunk and many more. It just requires a bit of work.
Hey FTD! Good video as usual! I'm wondering whether how is Steam Deck's remote play as of 2024? I want to grab an SD so bad to use it as a client for when I remote play my heavy modded games from the big PC.
How is latency when in a different room - is it a 1:1 nowadays? Do I need to get a Wifi 6e compatible router?
6:28 woah woah, hold your horses there. if Valve hears anything related to "3" they will make sure to never make it up happen 😂
I just adopted your dream of having that steam deck ecosystem. Love the content
I think the power of the Steam Deck is really seen the more responsiblities you have in life haha. I live with my partner and I have less time than ever to play games and the Deck gives me the freedom to play more games in more places. I got into emulation, I'm even into Linux systems now. This thing has changed my relationship with gaming in general, it's insane.
You do also get a screen and controls for 400 USD, which I dont think was included in that video reference (or at least often skipped when comparing with desktop PC).
I gave up trying to get my seat for a PS5 back when they were new.
Sony had fumbled the bag so damn bad during its release that is left such a sour taste in my mouth.
During that time I had gotten an email saying if I would like to secure my early reserve spot for the Steam Deck launch edition 512Gb.
It didn't take any thought to dump all idea of getting a PS5 and dedicating those funds for the Steam Deck, best decision ever👌
I think you nailed it when you say then SD2 will have to have a dock with an eGPU to run confortably AAA games at higher resolutions
I need that. 🤞🏻
I wish steam deck got perks of a console , like for instance, highly optimized games. Developers are starting to optimize games for handheld pcs but, thye are only targeting for playable fps. Steam deck is way superior than a Nintendo switch, but without the attention from Developers.
One of the big selling points of the Steam Deck was that developers didn't need to do much like this...
You don't need a deck 2, but I need a sd 2
I had the idea for a GPU with a dock back in 2018 when people were wondering what a Switch Pro would look like.
If Valve did that with Steam Deck 2 that would be the perfect PC
My main wishes for a Deck 2 are VRR support for the integrated display and adaptive triggers like in the Dual Sense 5
Good to see your video back. Its been 2 years and I still cant afford even an LCD steam deck. Wanted to start out a channel with steam deck content but just cant quite have the money to purchase a steam deck. I wish I had the same financial capacity as you guys. Ive been a fan of your channel and the nerdnest and the rest of your gang hehe. Wish you all the best. Just a poor dad seeing your videos make me happy duringy free time.
Please give another go at the steam machine, I just want a box to plug into my tv
The only thing that I really need is a new Steam controller. Everything on top of that is just gravy.
*NEED*, Davin; you hear me? Need.
Your comments on the Steam Deck as an expandable platform are spot on! That would be so cool! That and Global presence
Another thing to note about the price tag of the deck is you don't need to worry about buying a keyboard or mouse or monitor and those add up.
I got the deck mainly to support Valve in their quest to make Linux a viable OS for gaming, even though I have a high-end rig for gaming. But booting up an emulator or play PC games on the go is such a game changer and allowed me to go out and travel more without having to compromise on my gaming fix that much.
I'm not ready to buy a Steam Deck 2, but I'd love to see what Steam may have down the road.
SD2 I would like to see more of a massive beefed up display like 9 inch with a least 150hz. This is why I love my Legion, and I use my steam account on there.
There's a small chance they'll release both their VR headset and a new Steam Machine before a next gen Steam Deck.
I'm not kidding, btw. There's a legitimate chance of a new Steam Machine releasing alongside Valves' new headset, which would both work in tandem for console-like PCVR gaming.
There's leaks, patents, and photos of a weird console in their office from like 2019. So they've been working on this for many years now.
Also we know of 3 internal code names for presumably 3 individual Valve hardware products. Although one of them could of been for the OLED model.
1. Aerith - Steam Deck LCD
2. Sephiroth - Unknown / OLED?
3. Galileo - Maybe the Deckard
The Steam Deck was just their first step to getting Steam OS out there so they could optimise it for later use in other products.
My only hope is that we also get an official Steam OS distro for general systems.
I think what makes the Steam Deck stand out is it's somewhat conservative approach, probably not even really that intentional, I'm sure they weren't expecting it to be this big a success, but still only recently have we started seeing the mainstream APU's keeping up at the golden 10-15W area. I think a modest upgrade like 4 Zen 4 cores, twice the RDNA cores, only "crazy" spec I'd really love to see is a 256bit memory configuration, either that or a good chunk of infinity cache, as long as you can keep the power low.
I really don't think there's any point in making it dockable with additional hardware to power it even more, it will never ever work as smoothly as you'd want it. It's nice as a niche option, but most people will want the focus to be on the handheld itself.
I agree. It needs a spot in best buy, target, and walmart
Great points. I’d too love to see an Oculink port on the Steam Deck 2 with the option for an eGPU.
As a Steam Deck early adopter I am still loving it and playing it regular. It is such a great experience and I really enjoy that I can jump in and play something whenever I have a few minutes to spare and it doesn't require that I be in the living room in front of my gaming rig. I also really appreciate the 16:10 screen since it is so much better for emulating retro games that are 4:3 vs a typical 16:9 display.
The Steam Deck would be great in stores ;-D But I think the problem is that they can not produce enough steam decks. Currently in asia the steam deck is totally sold out. Tho it should be also available in shops there. But just imagine valve would like to bring the steam deck in shops worldwide... also in australia, india, switzerland, ... while still selling it online. They would need another bigger steam deck factory for that.
The Steam Deck not only brought me back to PC gaming but also give back my interest in tinkering with PC's as well, installing third party launchers and emulators, it's awesome, hell I even opened a Steam account for the first time, because when I was younger I sourced games from somewhere online.
For 5:01, just because someone enjoys to tinker doesn't mean that they always want to tinker. Sometimes you just things to work out of the box and for gamers, the steam deck does that fine.
I think you made some very valid points. Valve changed the game with the SD. That’s not to detract from the performance of the Ally, but what they’ve done for the market as a whole is game changing.
A frame generation plugin would make a massive difference. I've been using the lossless scaling app in windows for frame generation on Steam Deck and in most games you wouldn't know it wasn't real 60fps except it has the latency of 30fps which most people already put up with when they use bluetooth gamepads.
Still doesn't have the basic Steam feature of Streaming, but has remote play.
Basically you can have someone remote play to the deck no problem, but streaming a game is.
2 years and still not fixed.
I love my steam deck so far I’ve had it for a month and love it. Finally Fantasy XIV runs solid on it, only down size is the battery life.
I bought a refurbished 512 at GameStop for around 350 which was not bad love the thing would never have done it if it wouldn't have been at GameStop I'm more than likely would have never have tried one and I love the thing
8:38 YES!!! This is what i've been saying on @YoMammasBacon channel! This (to me) is the FUTURE of gaming. I wanted it for the switch, but really, I want this for all consoles. A powerful system in your hands and then an even MORE powerful system with an EGPU while docked! Im SO HAPPY to find someone who agrees with me! I KNEW I couldn’t be the ONLY one! Also, it can be playable without an external screen and you can play it kindof like a plugged in gaming laptop and just enjoy the enhanced performance
I'm still not over the honeymoon phase with the Deck. All of the additions that came with the OLED model as well as the community support (Emudeck, deckyloader, custom controller layouts w/ Steam input, etc.), it's still quite surreal that this thing exists.
I've revisited Mass Effect 3 multiplayer with a smooth 60 frames & gyro input, Doom 3 (dhewm 3) with the OLED color gamut, then playing Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst this past weekend was simply amazing.
I hope they baby this machine for a little while. Consoles are getting out of control with constant releases.
I hope the next iteration of the steam deck uses the same shell as it is now. It’s a design they nailed. And to discard it would feel a bit of a waste. They already made multiple revisions to the board, panel, battery, apu nm from 7 -> 6nm, etc already with the oled. I believe there’s still a ton of life in the current design.
With as fast as they're developing ARM processors and power draw being such an important thing for handheld systems, I wouldn't be surprised at all if access to more PC oriented ARM processors was going to be the jumping off point for the Steam Deck 2. Qualcom already has a couple of chips ready that I believe are going to be in Microsoft Surface devices this fall, so we're going to start seeing ARM PC's in the wild pretty soon. And by their nature, ARM chips could be a great way to get high horsepower processing and graphics solutions into a small package while using less power. I know some people really dislike Apple, but their M series chips are a great example of just how powerful ARM can be, and the new Qualcom chips are supposed to be even better than Apple's M3.
I think the biggest thing Valve should do is get the Deck into retail, so people can hold it and play it and just experience it.
I would love for them to try another shot at the steam machine and a new steam controller
The Steam deck is just an emulation machine for me, along with a select few 'light' games. Absolutely love it
Same! The best thing about it is everything it's able to do without stressing itself too hard. Lately the emulators have taken a back seat to Trails in the Sky (hidden gem of a JRPG and I don't even care for them) and XCOM.
A steam deck set top box is selling stationary PCs to people who already have a stationary PC, while selling a deck is selling a console to people who are used to the features of PC due to the portable aspect of it. Making it a set top box would not be as successful, they _have to_ do the eGPU docked thing if they make a sequel, because cheap mini PCs already exist, and you can put linux on them. (Where is SteamOS, anyway? Are they waiting for wayland explicit sync for Nvidia GPUs or something?)
I remember one of the main reasons I bought a steam deck despite already having a pretty capable laptop was the control scheme, the fact that SteamOS was the thing it ran on was something the grew on me slowly until I realized I didn't wanna be without things like the Quick Access Menu or the Discover app. A thing that would make Steam Deck 2 a killer platform is a Steam Controller 2 and for valve to finish up deckard, not just for deckard itself, but to improve SteamVR on linux in general, giving it motion smoothing as a feature and the ability to automatically switch audio inputs from headset to headphones depending on if SteamVR is open or not.
It is called, “what if” ing. And sure lots of people look at something and say, “why?” But you are thinking of things that don’t exist yet and are saying, “why not.” That is seed planting. It is free advice and you, like so many of us, just want the goods yesterday, if possible.
I think the future of gaming will be a handheld experience with a docking station with a egpu of ai chip for upscaled content. I enjoyed this video because this has been a growing thought on my mind.
It's crazy the gaming experience Steam provides. I have a Linux PC that sits between my desk and TV. When I'm tired of programming or just want to sit in my recliner and relax I can hit CTRL + ALT + F2 where I have a script running that will send Steam in BPM to 4 different screens for a console like experience. One of those screens is a dummy plug I use to stream to my Steam Deck. The crazy thing is I can play those old retro DOS games like Dungeon Hack with a controller on my TV because Steam input is absolutely amazing.
I love my Lenovo Legion Go, but I tend to play indy game and emulators on quiet mode (8w), and my battery lasts 3-4.5 hours.
The LLG isn't as efficient as the deck, but if you play it on the same quality as the deck, it gets pretty good battery life. But you're absolutely right, efficiency is the name of the game for handhelds.
Battery, heat, and efficiency are the keys for the next generation of handhelds, not raw processing power.
What's the name of the game you mentioned you guys were playing on the trip? Trying to search it on Steam :3
Balatro!
@@emiliosanchez4610 Thank you good sir :)
@@yuvi01warlock You're welcome! Enjoy
I hope you enjoy it if you give it a go!
I could never get the ally. I pretty much I mostly play in places where I don't have access to charging. I was only playing the switch for a few years before I got the deck
I think Valve "knows their chickens"... and really set off to create the "library backlog machine", monetising people that weren't buying very much because of ageing PCs and/or time available. And once you have "freed up" some of your library you are going to feel better about buying newer stuff.
I sort of agree on the Oculink thing, but to be honest, I feel like that window came and went. TB5 was ratified and the next generation of usb is likely around the corner. So unless there is a new revision of oculink in the works, it will fall out of favor within 1 year or 2.
Imagine making all of hat ecosytem backwards compactible with the seam deck 1.
what do you mean? steam library will be available on anything they will release
The Steam Deck really needed to be 1080p; performance hit or not (upscaling can correct that). Most people still game at that resolution on their PCs and trying to stream from a PC to the steamdeck causes wonkyness on the host PC due to the resolution mismatch (at least with Parsec and Sunshine/Moonlight). That's the main thing keeping me from purchasing one and looking at the Ally instead.
the next leap forward is VR. Steam Deck form factor, running 2k or even 4k per eye. Deckard standalone is the holy grail, but i think a belt tethered solution could work, or a Steam machine. inside out tracking is a must, tho.
Fan the Deck is the only news I tune in to for anything handheld and most importantly…SteamDeck 🔥