The Liminality of 20w14infinite
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- Minecraft’s April Fools updates are a pretty interesting part of the game’s history. With their outlandish features, they are some of the most interesting versions the game can offer. Some more interesting, some less, they show that even a tight and compact game like Minecraft can sometimes step out of its comfort zone and go wild. But one of those updates sticks out among the rest and has much more going for it than it might look like on the surface. A concept like infinite dimension generation seems pretty simple on paper and uninteresting. Heck, Minecraft already does that when generating a world, but this update is different. This is the Infinite Dimensions snapshot, named 20w14infinite.
In this documentary, we'll be looking into the liminal aesthetic of 20w14infinite and why it's a bit creepy at certain times.
Also, I've seen many people saying that I stole the video idea from RetroGamingNow and his video about the update. That is simply not true. I've started writing the script of this video on the 25th of May and editing it on the 1st of June (as it is stated in the outro), but RGN's video was released on the 18th of June, so this is just a coincidence. But, the video is a nice watch, so I encourage you to check out his video after mine: • Codes and Secrets in a...
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0:00 INTRODUCTION
0:44 FIGURE 1: LONELINESS
1:53 FIGURE 2: EASTER EGG DIMENSIONS
2:33 FIGURE 3: LIMINALITY
6:58 FIGURE 4: CONCLUSION
7:35 OUTRO
If you see this, comment "the backrooms are real". Thanks for looking here. ;)
#minecraft #20w14inf - เกม
activate windows
i hope i'll do that before the next doc 😅
@@therealfrapsedYou didn’t hear it from me, but people have dumped free Windows activation methods to GitHub.
@@therealfrapsed artifacts
What is the point?
@@Narko_Marko artifacts
That library is actually the library of babel, which is an infinite library that contains every single possible book in existence, because each book is a random assortment of characters containing every single possible combination of characters. This naturally generates an infinite amount of books, but somewhere hidden in the library are combinations of letters which make perfect sense, and contain the world's greatest secrets, like the cure to cancer (since there is at least one combination of letters that would generate that.) Furthermore, there is a book that would guide you properly through the library, though said book is rather impossible to find, and even if you found it, it may not be a "real" guide since many fake ones would also spawn due to the nature of the library.
i read the summary of the story after a lot of people told me that in the comments, thanks for the info :)
theres also a website that is the library of babel
The library has all the truths and lies of the world kept within it, all prophecies, true and false. It has both Shakespear and Shakespear but one letter is off. Everything, it has an image of my great great grand children's birth made out of letters and characters.
Would be interesting if we could use AI to find specific books.
oh the mystery
My problem with concepts like these is that the chance of actually finding something coherent is so infinitely small that it may as well be zero.
Like, sure, the cure to cancer might be there, but you would have to sift through literal millions of books before getting maybe one word right.
I know that it's supposed to be rooted in real hypothesis of quantum physics, the idea that the universe is infinite and there are only a finite configurations that matter can exist in, and so at some point things would just have to repeat. So a banana , or more famously a boltzmann brain, could materialize out of nowhere in the middle of space.
The problem is that matter is simply more likely to assume other shapes rather than these hyper specific objects. It's simply more likely for an unassuming cloud of space gas to be copied over and over ad infinitum. Sure, THEORETICALLY that banana might exist somewhere, but the chances are so low compared to the vastness of infinity that it really doesn't matter. It could simply not exist
You can let a random generator run for eternity, sure maybe at one point you would find a coherent thing, but you would have to wait through multiple lifetimes of multiple universes to maybe get one slightly coherent paragraph, and it won't be shakespeare.
I always interpreted “nothing to solve” as a way of saying there is no hidden lore in the snapshot, its all just random and for fun
really? i thought it was more mysterious, but this makes sense as well hehe
That makes perfect sense, and at the same tim doesn't.
Human nature at its finest.
Yes, sometimes question don't have answers. All of those llamas are just there, there is no deeper meaning. It just is. There is nothing to solve.
Have you tried throwing the developer book into a portal and looking for chests?
@@dontsueme i actually didn't, good idea
The perfection dimension is actually a reference to the youtuber @direwolf20, who is known for creating structures in a similar fashion.
thanks for the info! :)
The good ol' 9x9
The library dimension looks like the story The library of babel by Borges
that's a nice find! thanks for the info!
I thought it looked like apocrypha from Skyrim.
I'm pretty sure it's very specifically based off of it, someone at Mojang has taste
Library of ruina
@@Roland... project moon fan detected
If it exists, the farlands in this snapshot would have been crazy lol
Technically the farlands exist even on the latest version,just that they generate about 53 quadrillion blocks away instead of the about 12 million that the original farlands generated
@@radustana funny, even when mojnag destroys them, they live on as the warping of world gen code, just farther away than before. poetic
@@radustana i do not trust you
@@Fire_Axus same
I thought Bob's house was cozy until you mentioned the buried chest. That's completely scary
I'm glad more people have been drawing attention to this version recently, it's one of my favorite things Minecraft has ever done. On one hand, I wish there was more to this update, but on the other, I wonder if the relatively small number of hard-coded dimensions helps each one feel distinct (I mean, 43 is not a particularly small number, but still).
I also like the overall tone of the update. You don't often see straight humor in the game aside from these April Fools updates, and I feel like that disconnect actually helps to make the update feel more out of place. Most of these April Fools updates (In particular 2016,2019,2020,2023 and 2024) feel like you're given the opportunity to view what Minecraft looks like in a weird alternate universe, which makes them very memorable
true, idk why didnt it create a bigger boom back in the day of release
I think "nothing to solve" is directly aimed at the players combing through each dimensions looking for secrets and mystery. Like the hidden chest under isolation, which provided a bit of a tongue-in-cheek secret to the dimension, but the book "nothing to solve" emphasizes that they're just that. Easter eggs. Funny secrets. That there is no deeper mystery to solve. This might even be more applicable to the entirety of the game with players looking for a clear concise storyline to follow where, maybe according to the book, there is none, just various game design decisions. Maybe. who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
that is a good point, some other people have told me that in the comments :)
I think what's scarrier about the 'isolated' one is that if Bob is the only "humanoid living thing" (he has three dogs and there's the player), then the dude he killed was the only other "humanoid living thing"... Why in a world where there are only two villagers one would kill the other ? He would end up feeling very lonely (despite the signs telling he's clearly seeking loneliness to be at left in peace). Why killing the only social life he could have ? Maybe because it is, and it drove him crazy to see the only and same exact same face everyday... But what if bob and this unknown unfortunate villager weren't the only villagers in this dimension ? Or else, why taking the effort to hide the body of the other ? And not making a proper grave ? Bob shouldn't care after all, he's the only villager in this empty world... Could there be other dimensions travellers including some kind of police who would "arrest" him for murder ?
I have so many questions, this one is by far the most intriguing one, maybe because there are living things in it and not just as a block like in the llama one where the llama isn't anything special, just like a block, like if there was a "chest" seed for a world made of chests... or the "slime" one. Very interesting video, thank you youtube algorithm, and thank you for the throwback to 2020 and this very unique april fools snapshot, kind stranger ! Very nice essay !
Good ending: The stuff in the chest is actually food for his dogs and the sword is to slice it up into bite sized pieces :)
bob: the good ending
@@therealfrapsedisn’t also creepy that he had the shelf of infinite books, meaning that he could travel through dimensions.
@@jovifidelis oooh damn
@@jovifidelis 😟
I went to the "Herobrine" world and it had no sound. Nothing else out of the ordinary, which makes it even creepier
interesting find, but that might just be a coincidence. that world is not hard-coded, sadly :(
@@therealfrapsedIf anything, that's exactly what DOES make it creepy. Like the game itself (or something inside of it) chose something that subtle yet unsettling, not an IRL programmer. 😶
i dont know if anyone else noticed, but "nothing to solve" is a signed book, meaning it goes to its own dimension. i wonder if there's anything interesting in that dimension?
surprised you only have 101 subs. good content!
thank you!! :^)
make that 138 now :)
141 now.. I subscribe too
damn I didn't even notice, there's so many high quality channels with low subcount youtube seems to be pushing, pretty cool
@@therealfrapsedhey, 92 subs in 4 hours, that’s incredible, keep up the good work!
1:03 Old Pre-1.18 post Beta 1.8 Mountain generation my beloved, why are they so fucking rare now
The infinite snapshot was always one of my favorite updates, I enjoyed exploring different dimensions a lot. But if I decided to stay in a particular dimension and build something, I’d feel this lingering creepiness. I kept telling myself that this is minecraft, I know it like the back of my hand, there’s nothing that could happen that could actually scare me. But the feeling still lingered and it kept me from exploring the non easter egg dimensions for a while. This video shed some light on that, I also realized that I may be adding to the liminality of it by turning mob spawning off. I did that because random dimensions sometimes spawned withers, ender dragons, and giants which lagged the game so I just stopped them from spawning. But it made the world feel even more alone, not even a skeleton or any mob to remind me in any way that this is still minecraft and I’m not really alone if there are mobs.
your feelings were irrational
I LOVED this april fools snapshot because it looked like they were experimenting with new features that we, the players, would get to use for ourselves in the future. That ended up being true - support for custom dimensions came very shortly afterward.
However, I also specifically remember getting physically nauseous when I played this snapshot. I feel like it had something to do with the fact that most of the random (non-easteregg) dimensions followed one of maybe 3 or 4 different worldgen formats, and then things like the blocks, sky color, time speed, etc were just decided randomly as an overlay to whatever format had been picked. And I saw that there were a potential 2 billion dimensions (Java integer limit). It's like it was SO CLOSE to being truly awe-inspiring with how diverse and expansive this multiverse was, but eventually the monotony of it got to me and started to make me physically sick.
I now have an understanding for just how much of an effect a liminal space can have on a person's emotional and even physical state. And yes, you're right, this snapshot was 100% a liminal experience.
Dude you really should have taken a closer look at all those "honorable mention" dimensions. Spiral, Bridges, and so on
probably, but i would probably repeat myself and say the same thing for every single one - it repeats 'till the world border, has a weird and liminal vibe etc.
@@therealfrapsed the easter egg dimensions are all supposed to contribute to the mystery of the arg world. the whole updates purpose was the arg. you really didn't do your research.
The infinite library has to be a Borges reference!
it was, some other people in the comments told me that! :D
Pretty sure the sea lantern one is a reference to the horror movie "Cube"
HE'S BACK!
yes!
this update rocks, just imagine if minecraft actually revolved around gameplay like this, infinite dimensions, all with random blocks with random but sensical textures, random mobs, clouds. Stars, moons and suns, crafting recipes. Minecraft is simple enough that a lot of its generation and gameplay could be randomized, i’d love to hop worlds over and over, discovering more and more, and if it were multiplayer it’d be like no man’s sky. All the players hopping dimensions and possibly running into each other. There could be secrets littered about and perhaps a way out of the dimensions, who knows how that’d work. I’d love to explore forests of a strange dimension hearing the sounds of strange mobs in the distance, none that I have seen before. Endless anticipation.
"the feeling of loneliness grows as you explore more dimensions" bro its minecraft
This is very good video, very good editing and interesting to watch, btw 20w14infinite is my favorite version, it also reminds me of Minecraft Story Mode episodes where characters travel across similar dimensions through portals, i wish Mojang will one day add stuff from other Minecraft franchises like Minecraft Dungeons and etc
My dude has 10x more views than subs. It's not fair that small creators get suppressed by TH-cam.
this is literally the opposite of that
didn't regret clicking this video in my feed. your analysis was super engaging for a small youtuber. keep up the great work!
wonderful video!!! editing is on FIRE, and the analysis is quite elegant
you really know how to set the tone and evironment figure by figure, keep it up man :D
yoooo didn't expect you here! luv that from ya, thanks for the compliments! :^)
@@therealfrapsed heck yeah man!!! (the backrooms are real)
w!! (surely they are)
Awesome job man!! Keep it up
They could've surely actually added the backrooms. Such a missed opportunity ngl.
I wish someone made a mod that fucked up the world generation to be like this, so i could make a gregtech base in one of these spaces.
Banger vid, must be loving the extra attention. Good on ya mate!
Woah man, you are pretty good, really nice pace and editing. Greetings from Argentina!
This is the kind of video I always wanted to have regarding this snapshot. With great way of explaining things. You are criminally underrated.
I certainly love the idea of liminality and the community around it- so I enjoy seeing it in my favorite video games.
“This is a place that seemed like a bustling and busy library, where everyone was reading books.”
I know people dunk on video essays, but this might be a new low in terms of writing. Also, explaining what a liminal space is, in the month of June 2024.
probably could've made that part better. i'm not a native english speaker, so my vocabulary isn't on the stronger side. i tried my best!
Honestly not a big issue, I don't think I've seen any liminal space videos actually explain liminal spaces this well.
I never could actually figure out why I felt like this update felt almost… scary. I chalked it down to Fomo; the infinite nature of the infinite worlds has now become two layers deep. Even so, just experiencing the infinite dimensions still felt… melancholic. Hype, yes, but still… now I know that it really was because it were all so liminal. The original loneliness has now been multiplied by an infinite amount. It’s the loneliest I’ve ever felt.
Fixed it by exploring it with friends tho (:
Great video. Definitely going to come back to this snapshot.
glad you've liked it! it's 100% worth it
Really felt like this snapshot was not talked about enough.. Thank you for this video
wish the video was longer, this was a fascinating analysis
high quality video fr, i thought i was the only one who thought about this when i explored those seeds
thanks :)
tought i was watching a youtuber with 100k+ subs. brilliant video, subscribed
Really good video from an underrated content creator
You genuinely could get a job of being a narrator. This documentary, absolutely PERFECTION!!!!
This is awesome, keep it up.
Really interesting video. Felt like you could have made a big point on transition being a big factor in liminality since a lot of these dimensions were obviously not finished player ready dimensions but are halfway between nonsensical concept and polished fleshed out worlds.
I really loved this video, inspired me to work on one of my projects
glad the doc ispired you! :D
Guys they doesn't have to activate windows, it's their watermark 😎
love this take on both the books of Myst and the immediacy of infinity of Borges' Library of Babel
The library is a reference to the library of Babel by Jorge Luis Broges
This channel is a hidden gem, nice job man
thank you for the kind words :)
I would like to point out what an liminar space actually is
Liminar means transitory
A good example is a hallway or the inside of a train
These are spaces designed to conect other spaces, that is their purpose
Once you take away the purpose of a liminar space (by taking away the People using It) It looks creepy because said lack of purpose
What you and Wikipedia described would actually be a trendy movement of taking away the purpose of man made structures, a house the place where you live imagine It empty, It looks dark and twisted without the anything to fufill its purpose
761 subs is criminal. Gotta pump those numbers up! +1 from me gng, great vid
I’m quite interested in the snapshot and having studied it for a while. I’d like to correct a common misconception; boxes of infinite books can NOT generate an infinite amount of seed values. Each box will generate as many books as you like but each book will contain the same text as long as the box is in the same position. Moving the box to a different block will change the text output, however, any box in one given position will always output identical text. This is also consistent across dimensions, so the boxes will never provide more than something around 10^17 possible values. You can generate more than this by writing your own books though. Also the end ships’ generated books follow different rules so I’m not sure what the upper bound on that one is
It's such a shame April Fools is the only time things like this are added. Im not saying they should be permanent gameplay features, but having what are essentially different games to explore in minecraft is amazing
The library is just the library of babel
good find, thanks for the insight! :D
Very interesting video. I enjoyed it
wow i was impressed by how good this video was keep up the good work
thank you!!
The library, also know as library of babel
ACTIVATE WINDOWS 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
some of the worlds are genuinely maze-like
My absolute favorite update, I actually found one place, where chirp played nonstop every tick
Amazing video!
i wodner if way to mod it to brting the vote u[pdate adn infinant update to the newest versions?
cool vid bro thanks for sharing
I want to steal this idea
I'm not gonna say "The backrooms are real".
Bronx is the city of all time
you an OG, i appreciate that!
There’s one interpretation of “nothing to solve” that I saw on a TH-cam video; I like it a lot:
The idea is that the llama dimension is pointless in its deception. Each room is meant to be some sort of relaxation room, but it’s obviously fake, because the sky is just an illusion made of a few blocks. The llama itself is also destined to exist alone forever, even though there’s another llama just a few blocks away, separated only by the bedrock. Why would such a cruel and unusual arrangement exist? There's no reason. Because there’s nothing to solve.
very underrated bro
also you need to activate windows
thank you, i hope i can activate it before making the next vid :]
Activate windows is the funniest part of this video
of course mojang devs add the coolest shit but only for april fool day
it really is like that, sadly
I'm tearing up 🥲
20w14infinite is by far my favorite Minecraft April Fools' Joke update ever.
i 100% agree with you! :D
@@therealfrapsed Yay! =D
Loved the video
great video!
problem i have with the infinant books, if you find a dimention you like, you wont be able to reenter it with another book becuase cant atuayl read the infant books or they are too long , the fleet books also change and "glitch" so cant even redo them if maticulusly wanted to.
Good vid, how would u rate portal 2?
it's a really good game! really long, but entertaining playthrough! i'll be making some portal 2 vids in the future for sure
What’s the music that starts at the conclusion? I’ve been trying to find that song for a while…
it's "Key" by C418, from his album "Minecraft Vol. Alpha"!
@@therealfrapsed thank you!!!
damn this guy deserves like 100 times the subs
get this guy more subs.
I thinn library is the tower of babel
if it were to release today they would definitly have a dimension named spookliminal or backrooms
Slight correction. Liminality is defined as a state of transition. Places like train stations or hotel room corridors are liminal, because they were not designed to be lingered in. That's it. Contrary to the internet's general understanding, eerieness/nostalgia/creepiness are not an inherent part of liminality, but arise from seeing these usually busy places of transition be empty.
thank you for the correction and i hope i'll not confuse liminality with eeriness in the future! :^)
Nice!
Can you make one for each april fools update?
i'll think about it! there were many interesting april fools updates throughout minecraft's history :]
wait this channel has 300 subs? i expected at least 300k
I wish someone would bring this feature back in modern versions with modding.
Very nice video
I actually had a nightmare being stuck in randomly generated worlds after playing this snapshot. It sucked.
Good job dude
You're years late, but atleast you made the video.
yeah, i got back into MC after a two year break and remembered that snapshot and was astonished by it, so i had to make a doc!
ooo i really like your video style
Anyone else think the library dimension looks like Apocrypha from the Elder Scrolls series?
Cool dimensions
Never activate windows, I'm on my 5th year of not activating it, the watermark has become part of my computer
At 6:28, does people remember the dungeons of the Ore Spawn mod ? It looked kinda like this
i feel like there's something about being made in march/april 2020 that influenced this snapshot to be extra weird, or maybe it's just my nostalgia
probably the pandemic and lockdown, those are the only things i can think of
I loved this snapshot
me too! that was the main reason i made this documentary :D
Ever since this update dropped, I always had a wierd feeling about it I could never describe.
It's amazing that the April fools updates are so good.
yeah, one of many positive things about Minecraft as a whole!
so i click on this video, enjoy it, go subscribe to your channel, then look at your videos.
then i realize that the rest of your videos are about Portal, my favourite game of all time
god these videos are gonna go hard
damn, glad you enjoyed the vid. i started as a portal-exclusive channel, but wanted to branch out and it seems like it worked out. i'll still make portal docs, don't get me wrong, but expect more docs about MC and GD (Geometry Dash) :)
Don't get lost in Procedural Generation. You'll see things
best april fools update
100% !