I wanted to take a minute to thank you 2 for your reviews. I just purchased my first new car, a civic sport manual and I used your reviews to help find what best fits my interests. As a film student I have nothing but appreciation for your video styles each one is a masterpiece, please keep this up
@@gosman949 why shouldn't they be? Honda is one of the few companies left not making garbage. Besides, everyone's biased toward something--I have more respect for people who admit their biases up front.
@@gosman949 sorry I want a car that won't destroy itself after 60k miles and is made in America, it was between a mazda3 or the civic because they fit what I'm looking for in a car. I chose honda because of the proven reliability simple as
Enjoyed your review. Unconsciously, people really, really want minivans. They just don't think they do due to image insecurities and vanity. You are right. The Grand Highlander is basically a minivan made to look like a SUV. That's why you can't buy one because the demand is through the roof. On the other hand, big SUVs are today's minivans so that's why the most insecure reject these too and now buy giant 4 WD pickups with tiny beds to commute to their office jobs.
Not in the market for this type of vehicle but loved watching the review anyway - Mark's word choice, delivery and insight makes this channel the best for car reviews online.
Never in my life would I ever need a 3 row SUV because of some good decisions in my 20's. But with comments like " On my death bed I would beg the priest for the time back I spent in the Buick " ... I'll watch 3 row SUV reviews all day long. Thanks boys, fun as always.
Totally agree. I would never buy this monster truck of a vehicle and think it defines American excess and waste. But I'll watch any shorter length review SG puts out just for the jokes and keepin' it real factor.
Your videos are always top notch. This one made me realize how good it is when you two disagree on something. It really makes the viewer think about the issue you are discussing.
There is one thing that reviewers always get wrong, in my opinion. It's the constant complaining that SUVs need to have some sort of firm sports suspension for some reason. That might be cool when you have a press vehicle for a week, but then you own the car for years it gets really tiresome really fast. I own a CX9, and the one thing i hate about it is its stiff suspension, to the point where it will be a major point on consideration for my next vehicle to have something softer. I will sacrifice the 10% of the time i want a sporty feel for the 90% where i want a softer comfortable ride
i have the highlander hybrid and its AWFUL at low speeds. if im going under 30 the body roll is atrocious, but anything on the highway its excellent. it eats pot holes, its decent on turns at higher speeds, but turns at low speed or steep angles just throw you around.
Jack's comment about the seats being "short" are important. I had to get rid of my CX-5 that I otherwise loved due to the terrible seat shape. The Bottom part of the seat was too short for leg support and also shaped wrong. I can't believe no reviewers really mentioned that.
@@fortheloveofnoise The designers are Asian men, building it for American women. Though in the case of this particular monster, I don't know any woman who'd want to buy it.
I’ve had two cars with amazing seats for my thigh support and that was the Sonata Limited 2.0T, 2015 and 2018 Have not found anything else with seats like that. I’m 6’8”, I need thigh support or my lower back gets angry. Our 4Runner lacks that and I can’t do long drives with it u fortunately. Sat in a new Tundra and it has that support but not paying that much coin.
Indeed. Such small details are hard to notice (feels a bit uncomfortable at test drive, but can't figure out why). I got rid of my Opel minivan mostly because of seats. Some "genius" at GM had an idea to put tiny seats in a big minivan. Caused massive butt and back pain after a while, eventually made it impossible to drive that car. Got Forester instead and now I again can drive for hours in comfort. It is a bit smaller, has less storage space, but it is so comfortable. Driving it on gravel roads too, which I used to avoid.
As always, great video as pertaining to the breakdown of the actual car. I take one small exception with the cringey jokes about having a family and actually needing a car this size - I am THE GUY you guys were poking fun at. I have 5 kids, ages 15 to 23, so only a couple are still at home. But this would have been the exact car I would have wanted when we needed a vehicle big enough to haul everyone in comfort. We never made the jump to a full-size SUV because a minivan was 10x more practical and a mid-size SUV was too small, but we always knew we'd look cooler in a SUV and life would be infinitely more interesting with some light off-road capability. But having a family, next to marrying the right person (which I did) was the single best decision of my life. Nothing has made me happier. These days my wife is driving a 2020 F150 Platinum which she loves and is the perfect car for hauling her ski's and snowboards + a couple kids and friends up into the UT mountains without having to worry about getting stuck. I have a Tesla, '22 M3P. My youngest is currently learning to drive and she wants a car with a manual transmission (did I do something right?). My son did laps around SpeedVegas in a GT500 and a 911 GT3RS for a graduation trip and I watched with tears in my eyes as he passed a timid Huracan driver. See? It can actually be fun. My kids all love or at least appreciate cars (my oldest daughter bought her own '22 Elantra N 8DCT a little over a year ago, her twin recently went for a '24 Outback Touring, we're still working on her haha), and we have the best times getting together on the weekends for BBQ's, the dog park, skiing, hiking, camping, etc. When the kids were younger we took them to the drag races whenever we could until they closed them down several years ago, unfortunately, but those were some of the best times together and they still talk about how fun it was. I'm sure the joking is somewhat in jest but I wanted to chime in with my .02 anyway, because I seriously don't get all the negativity around marriage and family and wanted to give my perspective. We've invested a lot in our kids and it's been amazing. I regret nothing. Peace ✌
I’ve owned several iterations of both the Highlander and Sienna. The Sienna by far has superior room and better driving manners on highway where it spent most of its time. If you’ve got kids or dogs, the Sienna’s big sliding door is better for easy entry. Storage is better in Sienna too. Yes,it’s a minivan, but it’s better than a Highlander.
If Toyota marketing has humor and assumes their customer base is oldschool, they could sell it with a marketing slogan: *The Sienna - There can be more than one*
Sienna was my first choice...but they got rid of the v6 in favor of the v4 hybrid and the drive difference is noticeable. Wish they still offered a V6 version as the used ones available are pricey :(
You comment about just getting a minivan is spot on. Save money save tons of gas money. There is zero benefit to getting a large SUV to haul people that has a high entry cost and a higher fuel cost for the life of the vehicle. We are out of the minivan stage, but back in 2008 we thought about a Honda Pilot for our five member family, but once we saw the Honda Odyssey and how much better it was as a people hauler plus how much better mpg it got, it was a no brainer. Ironically, I still have that van and two of my kiddos are learning to drive on it.
It looks more like a really large RAV 4 than a Highlander, IMO. Interior is standard Toyota. Mostly good. I like the RAV 4 ride better than the Highlander because the Highlander is more floaty so this car would be more floaty than the Highlander. Still, the ride quality of Toyotas in terms of impact harshness is superb. Ride motions are more felt in the crossovers than the sedans. This vehicle likely to sell quite well for Toyota.
To be fair, it honestly looks more like a super-sized 2022 Toyota Avanza, an MPV/Minivan that is sold mainly in Asia. Try go look it up. It has a similar kind of front fascia, similar stance and overall side profile, same 7 seat configuration, pretty much the design is similar to the Grand Highlander but in smaller form.
The Islander and the Sienna has the north american look. The rav4 and now the grand Islander has Toyota the international exterior designes. As for the interior it is really an Islander XL with changes only to the screens and pretty much the same great noise nsulation level (the rav4 insulation is crap).
I Love Love Love my 2022 Highlander and can’t wait for myGrand Highlander to come in! We sat inside a brand new Tahoe and third row seat did not have the kind of room the Grand Highlander had. The way my 2022 Highlander was mapped out fit my family’s needs incredibly well. The changes in the Grand Highlander are exciting for us. This review is lame, comes from a short, bald, negative guy thinking he’s cool. Anyone that has been in my Highlander loves it and I know they’d love the Grand Highlander. Can’t wait!!!!
I purchased a 2021 Highlander Limited thinking I needed the 3 row because of the growing number grandkids. I was going to purchase the RAV 4. In 3 years I have not once used the third row. While the Highlander has been a good vehicle with 0 mechanical problems, I could have saved a lot of money in vehicle cost and GAS if I would have bought the RAV 4.
just bought GH hybrid limited. price/quality is so great, i can not ask for more. it has all the modern bells and whistles you can think of. 360 camera, active cruise control(which works amazingly well), ventilated/heated seats, wireless apple play, upgraded sound system.. i loaded it full with my buddies, 6 adult men were sitting perfectly fine, in all raws. and the trunk was full of food and beer. i personally do hit highway daily, avrg mpg is 33.3… thats your small sedan mpg on car size of a mountain. the only downside is lack of power, its 4 cylinders plus hybrid, but thats your trade off for good mpg. you want it be faster, buy hybrid max.. i personally don’t like to have turbine in my car, so im fine with it to a bit less powerful but less gas hungry on gas in return.
Wishing I could go back to my 20's and fix my bad decisions, I feel personally attacked 😂 this looks pretty decent to me (although I haul hockey equipment, not kids).
@@YBehri Man, more than anything, I regret not pushing harder with working out and getting my relationships in order. If I could give one piece of advice to any young guy starting out now... well, I was 20 at the turn of the millenium and dating was a heckuva lot better back then. Really wish I got that out of the way and got married earlier before things went to heck. You guys these days... well, I'm on the front line with you and I just can't help but look back at things when I was young and think, "better days".
I bought a Used Sienna Van back in 2018. What a great vehicle. Amazing quality, smooth ride, easy Ingress/Egress and tons of storage capacity. You can enter via the sliding side doors or the liftgate. I have 4 captains chairs and a 3rd row. Not one issue in the last 6 years. I think this thing would run with No gas and No Oil, lol. Buy the Sienna.
Best video yet.!! Mark should do the interiors exclusively, humour came through perfectly. The back-and-forth with Jack was perfect. Nobody gives an F what’s going on underneath the car like this keep it moving perfect video.
I love y’all’s reviews. Has 99% of what I’m looking to hear about vehicles and I love the candor with which it’s delivered! As someone looking into 3 row SUV’s, I would love to see a comparison video of the pilot and grand highlander, with a sienna thrown in as a sort of baseline/outside comparison as well.
Personally, I like my 2023 Honda Odyssey Elite. It has a 'sporty' ride, is very maneuverable, gets an honest 28 mpg, has manual controls for HVAC, decent tunes, and supportive seats. In the minivan segment, most give you chair-like seating in the front two rows which is important for sitting on long hauls. Ingress/egress is great. I just turn my ass towards the seat, plop down, and swing my legs in. There's plenty of room for us. If I needs more space, I find a contractor with a pickup.
I have a 2018 Odyssey(which replaced a 2016 Highlander)and the handling for a minivan is really pretty good. Point of reference I have also owned several Porsche's so I understand good handling.
We got ours sept 1st. It’s great for our family that constantly changes from 5-8. Outgrew the ‘16 Highlander. And, we still tow a 4000 lb trailer and commute 1000km per week. Meets all our needs, including the ability to get the canoes to rough gravel road locations. It handles better than the old HL that’s for sure.
@@gosman949 because choosing to pay more now to get what you want now while demand remains high and supply is low (artificially or otherwise) makes someone foolish? Some people just don't care about that as much as others. You obviously value money over time... many of us find time way more valuable than money. I will gladly throw away an extra $5k or so to get something I want now instead of waiting a couple years to see if demand/supply trade places. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
I do not like soft cushy rides. I love how mazdas drive. I just bought a cx90 because of how it drives and how it makes me feel when I drive. Whatever input I give it, the output is very satisfying. Mazda cx90 looks good and drives well and sporty. Also, i have 2 teens and dont want a bland looking interior like this grand highlander. CX-90 TURBO S premium plus suits my ever need in a 3 row SUV. It feels like a much more expensive car and ride.
There are car enthusiasts that need 3 rows. I am one of them so I got a CX-90 PHEV. The doors fit water bottles Mark… The back doors have room for 2 water bottles.
@@mbenton6I think he means that's why there aren't more 3 row SUVs like the CX90 in terms of handling/ride dynamics... Most people don't care about having a sporty SUV and just want something that's comfortable with ample space.
Solid product, just seems like it could be greatly improved by being a couple inches lower, and replacing the traditional rear doors with some kind of doors on perhaps a sliding mechanism for superior ingress/egress, especially when you have to buckle in kids in a tight parking lot stall. If someone were to make a vehicle like that, that perhaps got a 36/36/36 EPA mpg rating, I think tons of people would love it, as long as they didn't let some kind of moronic imagined social stigma stop them from choosing it.
I had the same vitriol Mark did when he went off on the Buick after I (reluctantly) drove a Traverse a few weeks ago. That thing was absolutely repellant.
I have never owned a mini van or a third row SUV...two kids and two wife's later...I wish I would have made better decisions in my 20's! Maybe you can drive guys like us around in your Grand Highlander with it's third row seating and do life coaching? :)
The 2 of us love road trips and camping. We had a 2011 Sienna and now a 2023 Outback. I would buy a Sienna again if it had removable second row seats and 8” ground clearance.
Went with the Feb lease offer on the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Altitude was roughly $240/month. Parents have an easy time getting in and out, 17 year old loves the 3rd row, 3 year old is happy and doesn't kick the front seat.
I am three minutes into watching this video and I already laughed like 5 times. I love you guys, I love this channel, I love Mark, I love Jack, I love pancakes.
Great review guys. Ultimately I think this is a luxury minivan. If you need to tow: Sequoia for $60k. If you don't need to tow: Sienna for $36k. I suppose this thing is a middle ground at $44k but it's really only for those that want the utility of a minivan but want to look like they're driving a truck/SUV (that can't tow).
Mark, I appreciate your rebuttal to Jack. It echoes what I have to think about right now. Of course I'd like to go back to my 20s and make better decisions but alas I'm here and this may be the vehicle that fits. Jack, you helped stay true to the spirit of the channel while reviewing a family hauler. I appreciate you both!
Love all the physical controls on the grand highlander, especially the ac. Are they going to bring this design to the regular highlander? I have a 2020 limited highlander and hate how heat and cool buttons are in infotainment system. That’s my biggest gripe.
That his videos aren't sterile-scripted is the salt in the soup. It is a worthy price for speaking long segments kinda freely. His statement there reminded me of that one time when an avian aficionado said "Birds are like angels with wings".
Reminds me of the British sitcom Keeping up Appearances where a lady has the surname Bucket that she insists is pronounced "Bu-kay", but everyone keeps calling her Mrs Bucket. "Oh no dear, I don't drive an On-klayve, I drive an En'Cla-ve!"
Great content as usual. Just leaving this here to give props for the excellent sound. Music is always on point and perfectly placed. Perfectly mixed and mastered for the shitty compression here on TH-cam.
So true about the Enclave interior. I sat in the latest generation a few years ago as it was styled nicely outside and I had carryover good feelings about Buicks from my past, albeit a very distant past. I couldn't wait to get out of it. How it might drive was irrelevant. If unspecial is a word, that interior was the definition of it.
I'd buy a Sienna if they made the interior less hard plasticy. I'm hoping for a mid cycle refresh with an interior upgrade. I love the fuel economy but prefer Honda's interior.
Yup. I would rather just have a minivan, but I agree - Highlander has a much nicer interior than Sienna and the seats fold flat without all the gaps, bumps and latches.
Toyota put all the RnD money for the interior in the highlander because they know Americans would rather be seen in the less practical Highlander over the Sienna
@@whatsitlike6392 for the money nothing matches their practicality. And sliding doors for ingress/egress are just better. And insane cargo space WITH the 3rd row up too
By chance, did you have any hesitations or surging driving this with 87? I have the regular highlander with the 2.4 turbo and it surges and bucks at medium load under 2200 rpm. The only solution now is to run 91+ and Toyota dealers and corporate refuses to admit there's a problem
@@web hasn't been a thing since DI came in. Atomizes fuel and has a cooling effect so you can run higher compression/temps on 87. Plenty of modern motors with high compression and or turbos can run 87 just fine. The t24 in this was taken from the nx which was tuned for 91. I don't think they did much outside patting it on the head and told it that it was a good boy, it can run 87 now.
We have the turbo 4 with 2000 km now. No surging issue at any RPM. Sorry to hear. I'd keep the pressure on them. I suspect there's something more going on, perhaps with your trans.
I'm debating between the grand highlander platinum and the Honda Pilot Elite. I have 3 toddlers, and one of them gets car sick all the time (in my 2017 corolla) . Jack talks about getting sick in the grand highlander. Would getting the Pilot be a better option if i dont want my. Kids throwing up in the back seats?
All-in-all, not a bad place to spend some time with my three step kids while we wait for their deadbeat dad who will inevitably fail to show up for his weekly visitation. On the upside, those poor bastards won’t have to spend any time in his Buick Enclave.
great review as always, I wanted GH initially but due to high dealer unreasonable markups in my area, I ended up choosing the Mazda CX 90, The compromise on a few cubic feet of space will be easily outweighed by the I6 performance. And yes, no motion sickness for my kids with the CX 90. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your future reviews.
I got a 2024 Pilot, I just feel like that 4 cylinder is going to wear out faster than the V6. I like the looks of this car though, and the interior seems a little nicer. I just hope that my Pilot will last until my 3 year old is driving
This is such a dumb myth. Why would a smaller engine wear out faster? You realize how small commercial engines are relative to the weight they push around? If it is built correctly it will last just fine. Toyota has V6s more reliable than V8s of other manufacturers that prove engine size has nothing to do with reliability. Keep your oil changes and do the maintenance required and the engine will be fine.
@@parkerdalo3248forget the size. There is a large layer of complexity added, along with dozens of parts when you add a turbo system to a motor (all of which can go wrong). Turbo motors by nature have higher pressures inside the motor, higher temps (which is why intercooler), etc. So yeah a smaller motor running boost will probably have a few more issues over the long run than some NA V6 (assuming they are both designed correctly). B58 is incredible but it probably won't last as long as E. G. a naturally aspirated 5L Lexus motor ie the million mile motor
Newsflash: Most of the world has moved their SUV’s and trucks to 4cyl well over a decade ago and since they dont use engines as a dick measuring contest, it reveals that it’s more a preference thing than a reliability issue.
There's more to buying a car to what you're carrying and how you like to drive. I'd like to see more than surface level analysis. Cross overs do better in crash tests for one and some have some attributes of a truck like 5k 6k pounds of towing without the need to have one. When you're spending 50k on a car you want to hit as many needs as possible, not hit 2 out of 10 and say "well at least people I will never meet think I'm cool"
COULD YOU PLEASE PUT MUSIC USED IN YOUR DESCRIPTION OR AT LEAST IN THE CLOSED CAPTION.. last one was really hard to find… love you guys and really appreciate your take on so many things always look forward to all your videos.. been subscribed since your old shop buddy… glad you are keeping on keeping on.. love ya.. good luck with the future of the platform..
He's not wrong though, they are piles of shit. My wife and I rented an Enclave Avenir for an 800 mile road trip and for a top trim vehicle it was comically cheap and chintzy.
@@AntilleanConfederationTrain your kids to be better and not do that....I was, and never hit cars as a kid....or get a two door car with back seats so they cant even open a door.
@@fortheloveofnoise bish please. My kids don’t do that. They know how much I care about my cars and have showed them to be mindful of their surroundings
How come my options for 3 rows are. -bed on wheels (affordable brands) -drives great, tech/features suck (Mazda) -astronomically expensive (luxury brands) My wifes boyfriend is not happy. Not one bit. Very frustrating that once I go and leave my estate to them they don't even have a good option to spend my money on.
The whole segment talking about handling on the back roads is absolutely is HILARIOUS. No one is taking ANY of these on any type of fun roads.. not the mazda not ANY of these. People are NOT buying these huge things to chase down a sports car. These things are made to carry people in the MOST comfort and max space. This GrandHighlander had best drivetrain that's efficient AND powerful at the same time. It’s a winning combo
Mark is right about Morbid Obesity as a solution to car sickness. I'm aggressively rotund and have never gotten sick while driving a semi truck. Other than roller-hotdog flu.
Government: “cars have to be more efficient and environmentally friendly” Automakers: “we’ll give them smaller engines, and increase the size and weight with more power and torque” It doesn’t make sense, why do cars just keep getting comically large year after year in the US?
Its complicated, and frustrating as shit, but logical once you understand how everything is intertwined. A couple important voices you left out of that conversation: Insurance companies: "cars have to be safer" Accountants: "we need to make at least $X per car that we sell" Customers: "I'm not paying 50 grand for that tiny car" and Shareholders: "You're not in business to make cars, you're in business to make money"
Downfall compensation panic. When a mindset doesn't change but runs into its limits, the end approaches with exponential speed. Psychologically it is closely connected to why people get bigger all the time, too.
"It doesn’t make sense, why do cars just keep getting comically large year after year in the US?" It's because people keep getting comically larger year after year in the US.
LOL! I LOVE SAVAGE GEESE honest REVIEWS! I knew the grand highlander would be too good to be TRUE! this would be nice for those folks needing Reliable 3 row hauler! Toyota hit the park
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All the hard work on 911gt3 sound, track, and interviews finally pays off in opportunities to review family utes.
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I actually prefer the family car reviews over the sports car ones. In this case, YMMV is appropriate both literally and and honestly.
I love it when Mark gets sassy in a review. It will be a sad day when Savage Geese stops reviewing random family cars with comedic genius.
love his snark in the beginning of the video hah
my only wish is to see him and turbowski one last time together before that happens
The Goose is SAVAGE!!!!
Definitely a savage goose
@@miloslogic turbowski never liked this channel anyways I don’t get why he was on camera.
Jack's laugh at the end just seals it! 😂
knew someone else would notice
I wanted to take a minute to thank you 2 for your reviews. I just purchased my first new car, a civic sport manual and I used your reviews to help find what best fits my interests. As a film student I have nothing but appreciation for your video styles each one is a masterpiece, please keep this up
they are bias towards Hondas.
@@gosman949 why shouldn't they be? Honda is one of the few companies left not making garbage. Besides, everyone's biased toward something--I have more respect for people who admit their biases up front.
@@theglowcloud2215 did they admit their bias?
@@gosman949 sorry I want a car that won't destroy itself after 60k miles and is made in America, it was between a mazda3 or the civic because they fit what I'm looking for in a car. I chose honda because of the proven reliability simple as
@@Fl0w_CZ the Grand Highlander is made in America on the same assembly as the new Lexus equivalent. Just saying.
I can't wait to see the Enclave review. Angry Mark is incredibly entertaining.
Enjoyed your review. Unconsciously, people really, really want minivans. They just don't think they do due to image insecurities and vanity. You are right. The Grand Highlander is basically a minivan made to look like a SUV. That's why you can't buy one because the demand is through the roof. On the other hand, big SUVs are today's minivans so that's why the most insecure reject these too and now buy giant 4 WD pickups with tiny beds to commute to their office jobs.
There is punetic beauty in vanity preventing people from driving a mini-van.
i commit anti suv propaagndist hate speech DAILY @@Dowlphin
If only hellcat Pacifica existed…
Please tell me more about how to spend my money??
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Not in the market for this type of vehicle but loved watching the review anyway - Mark's word choice, delivery and insight makes this channel the best for car reviews online.
The way you went in on the Buick had me screaming. You are hilarious. Great review as always.
Never in my life would I ever need a 3 row SUV because of some good decisions in my 20's. But with comments like " On my death bed I would beg the priest for the time back I spent in the Buick " ... I'll watch 3 row SUV reviews all day long. Thanks boys, fun as always.
"Good decisions in your 20's" meaning no kids...?
@@TermlessHGWYou don't need this even if you *do* have three kids.
Totally agree. I would never buy this monster truck of a vehicle and think it defines American excess and waste. But I'll watch any shorter length review SG puts out just for the jokes and keepin' it real factor.
@@TermlessHGWhe's quoting the end of the review
@@Hawkborneyou need a Sienna if you have three kids. Far better Road vehicle. Ask me how I know.
Your videos are always top notch. This one made me realize how good it is when you two disagree on something. It really makes the viewer think about the issue you are discussing.
There is one thing that reviewers always get wrong, in my opinion. It's the constant complaining that SUVs need to have some sort of firm sports suspension for some reason. That might be cool when you have a press vehicle for a week, but then you own the car for years it gets really tiresome really fast. I own a CX9, and the one thing i hate about it is its stiff suspension, to the point where it will be a major point on consideration for my next vehicle to have something softer. I will sacrifice the 10% of the time i want a sporty feel for the 90% where i want a softer comfortable ride
A thousand plagues upon SUV """"""drivers""""""
i have the highlander hybrid and its AWFUL at low speeds. if im going under 30 the body roll is atrocious, but anything on the highway its excellent. it eats pot holes, its decent on turns at higher speeds, but turns at low speed or steep angles just throw you around.
Same thing w new camry low scrape every other speed bump rougher ride then previous models
I enjoy the firmer, composed ride of my CX-9 (GT wheel size), especially entering corners a tad more aggressively than one should in a big car.
Journalists are also why we have uncomfortably firm seats now. I don't want to feel like I'm sitting on a thinly padded dining room chair.
Jack's comment about the seats being "short" are important. I had to get rid of my CX-5 that I otherwise loved due to the terrible seat shape. The Bottom part of the seat was too short for leg support and also shaped wrong. I can't believe no reviewers really mentioned that.
most reviewers must be short 😂
@@fortheloveofnoise The designers are Asian men, building it for American women. Though in the case of this particular monster, I don't know any woman who'd want to buy it.
I’ve had two cars with amazing seats for my thigh support and that was the Sonata Limited 2.0T, 2015 and 2018
Have not found anything else with seats like that. I’m 6’8”, I need thigh support or my lower back gets angry. Our 4Runner lacks that and I can’t do long drives with it u fortunately. Sat in a new Tundra and it has that support but not paying that much coin.
Yup my gf cx5 kills me on longish drives too
Indeed. Such small details are hard to notice (feels a bit uncomfortable at test drive, but can't figure out why).
I got rid of my Opel minivan mostly because of seats. Some "genius" at GM had an idea to put tiny seats in a big minivan. Caused massive butt and back pain after a while, eventually made it impossible to drive that car.
Got Forester instead and now I again can drive for hours in comfort. It is a bit smaller, has less storage space, but it is so comfortable. Driving it on gravel roads too, which I used to avoid.
If I'm going to have to buy a car for $50k, it needs to be big enough for me to sleep in it when I can no longer afford my rent.
What you’re saying isn’t a joke though
You can buy used Lexus LX
@@MrTeslaX my cousin bought a Lexus LX 2021 for 80k plus tax and interest in total came up to 125k
you don't need 2021 model. Anything after 2016 is great and bargain at 55k. @@صديقالوقت-ظ4ق
As always, great video as pertaining to the breakdown of the actual car. I take one small exception with the cringey jokes about having a family and actually needing a car this size - I am THE GUY you guys were poking fun at. I have 5 kids, ages 15 to 23, so only a couple are still at home. But this would have been the exact car I would have wanted when we needed a vehicle big enough to haul everyone in comfort. We never made the jump to a full-size SUV because a minivan was 10x more practical and a mid-size SUV was too small, but we always knew we'd look cooler in a SUV and life would be infinitely more interesting with some light off-road capability. But having a family, next to marrying the right person (which I did) was the single best decision of my life. Nothing has made me happier. These days my wife is driving a 2020 F150 Platinum which she loves and is the perfect car for hauling her ski's and snowboards + a couple kids and friends up into the UT mountains without having to worry about getting stuck. I have a Tesla, '22 M3P. My youngest is currently learning to drive and she wants a car with a manual transmission (did I do something right?). My son did laps around SpeedVegas in a GT500 and a 911 GT3RS for a graduation trip and I watched with tears in my eyes as he passed a timid Huracan driver. See? It can actually be fun. My kids all love or at least appreciate cars (my oldest daughter bought her own '22 Elantra N 8DCT a little over a year ago, her twin recently went for a '24 Outback Touring, we're still working on her haha), and we have the best times getting together on the weekends for BBQ's, the dog park, skiing, hiking, camping, etc. When the kids were younger we took them to the drag races whenever we could until they closed them down several years ago, unfortunately, but those were some of the best times together and they still talk about how fun it was. I'm sure the joking is somewhat in jest but I wanted to chime in with my .02 anyway, because I seriously don't get all the negativity around marriage and family and wanted to give my perspective. We've invested a lot in our kids and it's been amazing. I regret nothing. Peace ✌
Hands down THE absolute best channel for automobile reviews and it's not even close.
That ending cracked me up! Keep up the good work guys, you're making the most entertaining (and practical, down to earth) car reviews on YT.
I’ve owned several iterations of both the Highlander and Sienna. The Sienna by far has superior room and better driving manners on highway where it spent most of its time. If you’ve got kids or dogs, the Sienna’s big sliding door is better for easy entry. Storage is better in Sienna too. Yes,it’s a minivan, but it’s better than a Highlander.
If Toyota marketing has humor and assumes their customer base is oldschool, they could sell it with a marketing slogan:
*The Sienna - There can be more than one*
Sienna was my first choice...but they got rid of the v6 in favor of the v4 hybrid and the drive difference is noticeable. Wish they still offered a V6 version as the used ones available are pricey :(
The Grand Highlander is far roomier than the standard Highlander. I look for this to eventually replace the Sienna minivan.
Siennas are awesome, it’s crazy they are 50k. Wild times
I don't know if you can read... this isn't a standard Highlander.
Jacks laugh at the end was great! Glad you left that in lol. Another great review!
You comment about just getting a minivan is spot on. Save money save tons of gas money. There is zero benefit to getting a large SUV to haul people that has a high entry cost and a higher fuel cost for the life of the vehicle.
We are out of the minivan stage, but back in 2008 we thought about a Honda Pilot for our five member family, but once we saw the Honda Odyssey and how much better it was as a people hauler plus how much better mpg it got, it was a no brainer. Ironically, I still have that van and two of my kiddos are learning to drive on it.
It looks more like a really large RAV 4 than a Highlander, IMO. Interior is standard Toyota. Mostly good. I like the RAV 4 ride better than the Highlander because the Highlander is more floaty so this car would be more floaty than the Highlander. Still, the ride quality of Toyotas in terms of impact harshness is superb. Ride motions are more felt in the crossovers than the sedans. This vehicle likely to sell quite well for Toyota.
To be fair, it honestly looks more like a super-sized 2022 Toyota Avanza, an MPV/Minivan that is sold mainly in Asia.
Try go look it up. It has a similar kind of front fascia, similar stance and overall side profile, same 7 seat configuration, pretty much the design is similar to the Grand Highlander but in smaller form.
I saw one on the road. I had the same first impression. I thought it was a large RAV4. I was honestly confused for a second.
The Islander and the Sienna has the north american look. The rav4 and now the grand Islander has Toyota the international exterior designes. As for the interior it is really an Islander XL with changes only to the screens and pretty much the same great noise nsulation level (the rav4 insulation is crap).
I Love Love Love my 2022 Highlander and can’t wait for myGrand Highlander to come in! We sat inside a brand new Tahoe and third row seat did not have the kind of room the Grand Highlander had. The way my 2022 Highlander was mapped out fit my family’s needs incredibly well. The changes in the Grand Highlander are exciting for us. This review is lame, comes from a short, bald, negative guy thinking he’s cool. Anyone that has been in my Highlander loves it and I know they’d love the Grand Highlander. Can’t wait!!!!
😂 yes!! A classic, throwback style Savagegeese review!!! Loved the humor and passion in this video. 👍🏻
I purchased a 2021 Highlander Limited thinking I needed the 3 row because of the growing number grandkids. I was going to purchase the RAV 4. In 3 years I have not once used the third row. While the Highlander has been a good vehicle with 0 mechanical problems, I could have saved a lot of money in vehicle cost and GAS if I would have bought the RAV 4.
I have the 2021 also we use the third row for extra storage in the back. I love this car and it has the v6 which is very powerful.
Great review Mark
Not if you got a hybrid. I love mine it gets constant 35 + mpg love the extra space and use the 3 row for grand kid once and a while
@@paulschuenke9529 Agreed!
Pretty good review. Love Mark’s honesty😎
just bought GH hybrid limited. price/quality is so great, i can not ask for more.
it has all the modern bells and whistles you can think of. 360 camera, active cruise control(which works amazingly well), ventilated/heated seats, wireless apple play, upgraded sound system.. i loaded it full with my buddies, 6 adult men were sitting perfectly fine, in all raws. and the trunk was full of food and beer. i personally do hit highway daily, avrg mpg is 33.3… thats your small sedan mpg on car size of a mountain.
the only downside is lack of power, its 4 cylinders plus hybrid, but thats your trade off for good mpg. you want it be faster, buy hybrid max.. i personally don’t like to have turbine in my car, so im fine with it to a bit less powerful but less gas hungry on gas in return.
That Buick burn in the beginning got me bursting in tears 😂
This video is so good . Precise, informative, subtle humor, no non sense.
Jack at the end when that joke (truth bomb) landed 🤣that was good stuff!
Awesome introduction for the first couple of minutes! Probably the best opening for a car review in a review video in recent memory.
As always I love your honesty. Keep the videos coming.
Wishing I could go back to my 20's and fix my bad decisions, I feel personally attacked 😂 this looks pretty decent to me (although I haul hockey equipment, not kids).
@@YBehriMake the Lord Jesus a priority, don’t chase women, work hard, play hard, save money, invest money, get education, and take care of your body.
Oh man that stung harddd
@@YBehri Man, more than anything, I regret not pushing harder with working out and getting my relationships in order. If I could give one piece of advice to any young guy starting out now... well, I was 20 at the turn of the millenium and dating was a heckuva lot better back then. Really wish I got that out of the way and got married earlier before things went to heck. You guys these days... well, I'm on the front line with you and I just can't help but look back at things when I was young and think, "better days".
@@Mr.Wright-b8f I would agree with all that except the first part. Religion isn't essential to a good life.
@@tjord You’ll be surprised my friend. Statistically it has been proven that people who attend church regularly live longer.
I bought a Used Sienna Van back in 2018. What a great vehicle. Amazing quality, smooth ride, easy Ingress/Egress and tons of storage capacity. You can enter via the sliding side doors or the liftgate. I have 4 captains chairs and a 3rd row. Not one issue in the last 6 years. I think this thing would run with No gas and No Oil, lol. Buy the Sienna.
But 2018 was last year
That was the best vehicle I never wanted to buy.
This channel should blow through the roof in popularity. Straight talk, no bullsh*t.
Best video yet.!! Mark should do the interiors exclusively, humour came through perfectly. The back-and-forth with Jack was perfect. Nobody gives an F what’s going on underneath the car like this keep it moving perfect video.
It's nice to see Chad smile during the entire bathroom procedure.
The best review of this suv I’ve seen hands down and hilarious af too😂💯
That Buick Enclave rant at the beginning was golden lol
Wow. Didn’t expect to be attacked by those final thoughts.
I can't wait to see that Enclave test drive! 😂
You mean the Enclavé?
I love y’all’s reviews. Has 99% of what I’m looking to hear about vehicles and I love the candor with which it’s delivered!
As someone looking into 3 row SUV’s, I would love to see a comparison video of the pilot and grand highlander, with a sienna thrown in as a sort of baseline/outside comparison as well.
Personally, I like my 2023 Honda Odyssey Elite. It has a 'sporty' ride, is very maneuverable, gets an honest 28 mpg, has manual controls for HVAC, decent tunes, and supportive seats. In the minivan segment, most give you chair-like seating in the front two rows which is important for sitting on long hauls.
Ingress/egress is great. I just turn my ass towards the seat, plop down, and swing my legs in.
There's plenty of room for us. If I needs more space, I find a contractor with a pickup.
I have a 2018 Odyssey(which replaced a 2016 Highlander)and the handling for a minivan is really pretty good. Point of reference I have also owned several Porsche's so I understand good handling.
Your videos represent integrity, creativity, and passion.
That is more than one can say for 99.9999% today
We got ours sept 1st. It’s great for our family that constantly changes from 5-8. Outgrew the ‘16 Highlander. And, we still tow a 4000 lb trailer and commute 1000km per week. Meets all our needs, including the ability to get the canoes to rough gravel road locations. It handles better than the old HL that’s for sure.
and how much over sticker did you have to pay?
@@gosman949
I came here to ask the same thing.
@@MrKillerRC no one will admit that they have been one of the fools that are born every minute and accepted MSRP or more!
@@gosman949 because choosing to pay more now to get what you want now while demand remains high and supply is low (artificially or otherwise) makes someone foolish? Some people just don't care about that as much as others. You obviously value money over time... many of us find time way more valuable than money. I will gladly throw away an extra $5k or so to get something I want now instead of waiting a couple years to see if demand/supply trade places. Tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
Paid $650 below. Eastern Canada.
I do not like soft cushy rides. I love how mazdas drive. I just bought a cx90 because of how it drives and how it makes me feel when I drive. Whatever input I give it, the output is very satisfying. Mazda cx90 looks good and drives well and sporty. Also, i have 2 teens and dont want a bland looking interior like this grand highlander. CX-90 TURBO S premium plus suits my ever need in a 3 row SUV. It feels like a much more expensive car and ride.
There are car enthusiasts that need 3 rows. I am one of them so I got a CX-90 PHEV. The doors fit water bottles Mark… The back doors have room for 2 water bottles.
thats great but most people prefers a cushy ride, thats why theres not a lot of cx90 types
@@tinhinnh types?
@@mbenton6I think he means that's why there aren't more 3 row SUVs like the CX90 in terms of handling/ride dynamics... Most people don't care about having a sporty SUV and just want something that's comfortable with ample space.
Why are people buying bmw's and audi suv's. Right
Solid product, just seems like it could be greatly improved by being a couple inches lower, and replacing the traditional rear doors with some kind of doors on perhaps a sliding mechanism for superior ingress/egress, especially when you have to buckle in kids in a tight parking lot stall. If someone were to make a vehicle like that, that perhaps got a 36/36/36 EPA mpg rating, I think tons of people would love it, as long as they didn't let some kind of moronic imagined social stigma stop them from choosing it.
I see what you did there.
It sure is a good thing we don't have to contend with moronic imagined social stigmas. That would be a tragedy.
Mark has no chill in this video… Love it!!
I had the same vitriol Mark did when he went off on the Buick after I (reluctantly) drove a Traverse a few weeks ago. That thing was absolutely repellant.
These are the reviews that the everyday American really wants. Blunt, practical, to the point.
6:30 "its like a bus on wheels" very well spoken
That Buick Enclave/Chevy Traverse rip was brutal and hilarious
I have never owned a mini van or a third row SUV...two kids and two wife's later...I wish I would have made better decisions in my 20's! Maybe you can drive guys like us around in your Grand Highlander with it's third row seating and do life coaching? :)
Damn, that entire interior section by Mark was epic. 😂
The cackle at the end 😂 “Go back to your 20’s and make better decisions”
Appreciate starting off with the comparisons. That was really cool (and then wrapping up at the end)
The 2 of us love road trips and camping. We had a 2011 Sienna and now a 2023 Outback. I would buy a Sienna again if it had removable second row seats and 8” ground clearance.
Is the outback engine a big let down compared to the old v6? or is it fine
@@toddlehman1 Sienna v6 was smoother, Outback Onyx 2.5 non turbo acceptable. We get over 30 mpg on road trips.
Went with the Feb lease offer on the Jeep Grand Cherokee L. Altitude was roughly $240/month. Parents have an easy time getting in and out, 17 year old loves the 3rd row, 3 year old is happy and doesn't kick the front seat.
I am three minutes into watching this video and I already laughed like 5 times. I love you guys, I love this channel, I love Mark, I love Jack, I love pancakes.
Mork,
Thanks for the subdued rage on the interior segment. I really appreciate your anger and detest for the Buick Ucravethisshitbox.
Great review guys. Ultimately I think this is a luxury minivan. If you need to tow: Sequoia for $60k. If you don't need to tow: Sienna for $36k. I suppose this thing is a middle ground at $44k but it's really only for those that want the utility of a minivan but want to look like they're driving a truck/SUV (that can't tow).
Good luck finding a sequoia for under 90k
I'm actually in the market for a luxury minivan and am thinking this is the closest available since you can't get a Toyota Alphard/Vellfire in the US.
Mark, I appreciate your rebuttal to Jack. It echoes what I have to think about right now. Of course I'd like to go back to my 20s and make better decisions but alas I'm here and this may be the vehicle that fits. Jack, you helped stay true to the spirit of the channel while reviewing a family hauler. I appreciate you both!
Now I really want to see the Enclave review.
Was having a pretty crap day, but the run on commentary on this video had me laughing out loud. God bless you sir😂
Love all the physical controls on the grand highlander, especially the ac. Are they going to bring this design to the regular highlander?
I have a 2020 limited highlander and hate how heat and cool buttons are in infotainment system. That’s my biggest gripe.
You are great in choosing the right songs in the background @3:58 minute mark. With the funny and sarcastic comments, please don't stop making video's
6:37 a bus on wheels, what a concept
That his videos aren't sterile-scripted is the salt in the soup. It is a worthy price for speaking long segments kinda freely.
His statement there reminded me of that one time when an avian aficionado said "Birds are like angels with wings".
I'm 1:30 in and this is already the best savagegeese video I've ever watched.
I love the sense of humor on this channel.
F'ing hilarious.
SAVAGE. Why I have been a subscriber since 12000 subscribers.
Buick En'-cla-ve...classic
I try to think of the metaphor of an Enclave. In our country living in a enclave it is the most hassle there is.
Reminds me of the British sitcom Keeping up Appearances where a lady has the surname Bucket that she insists is pronounced "Bu-kay", but everyone keeps calling her Mrs Bucket.
"Oh no dear, I don't drive an On-klayve, I drive an En'Cla-ve!"
@@JJVernig 😂
Great content as usual. Just leaving this here to give props for the excellent sound. Music is always on point and perfectly placed. Perfectly mixed and mastered for the shitty compression here on TH-cam.
Wait a second, this isn't a CVT? I'm sold.
Some do have CVT
So true about the Enclave interior. I sat in the latest generation a few years ago as it was styled nicely outside and I had carryover good feelings about Buicks from my past, albeit a very distant past. I couldn't wait to get out of it. How it might drive was irrelevant. If unspecial is a word, that interior was the definition of it.
I'd buy a Sienna if they made the interior less hard plasticy. I'm hoping for a mid cycle refresh with an interior upgrade. I love the fuel economy but prefer Honda's interior.
Odyssey's are so much more refined than Siennas.
Yup. I would rather just have a minivan, but I agree - Highlander has a much nicer interior than Sienna and the seats fold flat without all the gaps, bumps and latches.
Toyota put all the RnD money for the interior in the highlander because they know Americans would rather be seen in the less practical Highlander over the Sienna
@@ShaiyanHossain I wish minivans would get more love. I have found them to be so useful and return decent MPG for what they can do.
@@whatsitlike6392 for the money nothing matches their practicality. And sliding doors for ingress/egress are just better. And insane cargo space WITH the 3rd row up too
After a minute in, I'm now really looking forward to the Buick Enclave review.
By chance, did you have any hesitations or surging driving this with 87? I have the regular highlander with the 2.4 turbo and it surges and bucks at medium load under 2200 rpm. The only solution now is to run 91+ and Toyota dealers and corporate refuses to admit there's a problem
Back in the day turbo almost always meant premium octane. I always assume 87 compatibility is just a marketing ploy
@@webit’s a planned obsolescence marketing ploy…
@@web hasn't been a thing since DI came in. Atomizes fuel and has a cooling effect so you can run higher compression/temps on 87. Plenty of modern motors with high compression and or turbos can run 87 just fine.
The t24 in this was taken from the nx which was tuned for 91. I don't think they did much outside patting it on the head and told it that it was a good boy, it can run 87 now.
Seems the problem is only in the 2.4 turbo. The 2.5 Hybrid is a proven drive train.
We have the turbo 4 with 2000 km now. No surging issue at any RPM. Sorry to hear. I'd keep the pressure on them. I suspect there's something more going on, perhaps with your trans.
I'm debating between the grand highlander platinum and the Honda Pilot Elite. I have 3 toddlers, and one of them gets car sick all the time (in my 2017 corolla) . Jack talks about getting sick in the grand highlander. Would getting the Pilot be a better option if i dont want my. Kids throwing up in the back seats?
All-in-all, not a bad place to spend some time with my three step kids while we wait for their deadbeat dad who will inevitably fail to show up for his weekly visitation. On the upside, those poor bastards won’t have to spend any time in his Buick Enclave.
😮😅😂
That outro with Jack’s laugh… priceless…
great review as always, I wanted GH initially but due to high dealer unreasonable markups in my area, I ended up choosing the Mazda CX 90, The compromise on a few cubic feet of space will be easily outweighed by the I6 performance. And yes, no motion sickness for my kids with the CX 90. Keep up the good work and looking forward to your future reviews.
Did u check cx90 phev?
11:05
LOL! that was funny and true statement Mark! You got Jack laughing LOL
blackpill overdose lol
The only channel I watch the entire advertisement for.
"The Toyota Grand Highlander - it's like a bus on wheels" - Savagegeese, 2023
Well, any bus is on wheels)
харош))))))
should have said boat on the wheels
Reminds me of what a woman once said: "Birds are like angels with wings."
@@MrTeslaXthat train has sailed…😅
It’s awesome that Michael Stipe is reviewing cars these days
I got a 2024 Pilot, I just feel like that 4 cylinder is going to wear out faster than the V6. I like the looks of this car though, and the interior seems a little nicer. I just hope that my Pilot will last until my 3 year old is driving
This is such a dumb myth. Why would a smaller engine wear out faster? You realize how small commercial engines are relative to the weight they push around? If it is built correctly it will last just fine. Toyota has V6s more reliable than V8s of other manufacturers that prove engine size has nothing to do with reliability. Keep your oil changes and do the maintenance required and the engine will be fine.
@@parkerdalo3248forget the size. There is a large layer of complexity added, along with dozens of parts when you add a turbo system to a motor (all of which can go wrong).
Turbo motors by nature have higher pressures inside the motor, higher temps (which is why intercooler), etc.
So yeah a smaller motor running boost will probably have a few more issues over the long run than some NA V6 (assuming they are both designed correctly).
B58 is incredible but it probably won't last as long as E. G. a naturally aspirated 5L Lexus motor ie the million mile motor
Newsflash: Most of the world has moved their SUV’s and trucks to 4cyl well over a decade ago and since they dont use engines as a dick measuring contest, it reveals that it’s more a preference thing than a reliability issue.
@@FCM415talk to me when ford eco boost are not acting as IEDs
Good luck with your "v6 2024 pilot"
Love how you guys don't feel the need to reach a middle ground and stick to your honest thoughts
There's more to buying a car to what you're carrying and how you like to drive. I'd like to see more than surface level analysis. Cross overs do better in crash tests for one and some have some attributes of a truck like 5k 6k pounds of towing without the need to have one. When you're spending 50k on a car you want to hit as many needs as possible, not hit 2 out of 10 and say "well at least people I will never meet think I'm cool"
COULD YOU PLEASE PUT MUSIC USED IN YOUR DESCRIPTION OR AT LEAST IN THE CLOSED CAPTION.. last one was really hard to find… love you guys and really appreciate your take on so many things always look forward to all your videos.. been subscribed since your old shop buddy… glad you are keeping on keeping on.. love ya.. good luck with the future of the platform..
The enclave review was savage lmao
He's not wrong though, they are piles of shit. My wife and I rented an Enclave Avenir for an 800 mile road trip and for a top trim vehicle it was comically cheap and chintzy.
That last line of the video hit hard 😔. Great video as always 💪
I have three kids and can confirm, buy a minivan. The sliding doors are life changing.
Yup. Kids don’t have to hit other cars parked next to you. Lol.
@@AntilleanConfederationTrain your kids to be better and not do that....I was, and never hit cars as a kid....or get a two door car with back seats so they cant even open a door.
@@fortheloveofnoise bish please. My kids don’t do that. They know how much I care about my cars and have showed them to be mindful of their surroundings
Yet another fucking SUV....just what the world needed.
How come my options for 3 rows are.
-bed on wheels (affordable brands)
-drives great, tech/features suck (Mazda)
-astronomically expensive (luxury brands)
My wifes boyfriend is not happy. Not one bit. Very frustrating that once I go and leave my estate to them they don't even have a good option to spend my money on.
I love mark’s brutal honesty in the video 😂
This is a good reliable vehicle that people will like and buy. Job done.
Entirely new car with brand new drivetrain, don't buy into brand reliability delusions.
That intro should be your marketing YT shorts opener then clips of your comedic moments from other videos
The whole segment talking about handling on the back roads is absolutely is HILARIOUS. No one is taking ANY of these on any type of fun roads.. not the mazda not ANY of these. People are NOT buying these huge things to chase down a sports car. These things are made to carry people in the MOST comfort and max space. This GrandHighlander had best drivetrain that's efficient AND powerful at the same time. It’s a winning combo
Drive an MDX cx90 and say that again
I lived with a previous generation cx90 signature edition. I know what im talking about @@naveenthemachine
Mark is right about Morbid Obesity as a solution to car sickness. I'm aggressively rotund and have never gotten sick while driving a semi truck. Other than roller-hotdog flu.
Government: “cars have to be more efficient and environmentally friendly”
Automakers: “we’ll give them smaller engines, and increase the size and weight with more power and torque”
It doesn’t make sense, why do cars just keep getting comically large year after year in the US?
Its complicated, and frustrating as shit, but logical once you understand how everything is intertwined.
A couple important voices you left out of that conversation:
Insurance companies: "cars have to be safer"
Accountants: "we need to make at least $X per car that we sell"
Customers: "I'm not paying 50 grand for that tiny car"
and Shareholders: "You're not in business to make cars, you're in business to make money"
Downfall compensation panic. When a mindset doesn't change but runs into its limits, the end approaches with exponential speed.
Psychologically it is closely connected to why people get bigger all the time, too.
@@Dowlphin
“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked.
“Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.”
-Ernest Hemingway,1926; The Sun Also Rises.
"It doesn’t make sense, why do cars just keep getting comically large year after year in the US?"
It's because people keep getting comically larger year after year in the US.
Thank you for this video. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
I cant wait for the TRD when they put a spoiler on it with red seats.
Toyota Ripoff Department
LOL! I LOVE SAVAGE GEESE honest REVIEWS! I knew the grand highlander would be too good to be TRUE! this would be nice for those folks needing Reliable 3 row hauler! Toyota hit the park