Never really had consistent results with cluster. Damage is great when it lands but you have to take the time to do some geometry. With wyvern fire, you just fire it off easily haha
@@PauwerPlaysIf you can get underneath monsters (especially ones with wings) before shooting, the cluster shot explodes immediately on direct impact so no travel time necessary.
I have to disagree with cluster ammo. I really love it. It's not easy to use, that is true, but it does have the highest dmg except wyvern and it's so satisfying to hit monsters with it. My favorite HBG is Rajang with sticky and cluster. 4 sticky to the head = one stun which makes is very easy to hit the cluster.
I enjoy cluster when the monster is down but when its moving around, it hurts when it misse. Ive tried it with the rajang hbg and knocking out monster is very fun haha!
@@PauwerPlays Also another thing I noted when playing with piercing, especially the black diablos HBG: It's annoying to try and keep your distance against some monsters. When they're right in your face, you're to close for your ideal range and do less damage. Also, at least according to the japanese discord, the Magnamalo HBG seems to have the highest potential, even more than BD HBG. But I think it still needs more time and testing to see how everything actually performs.
I have to heavily disagree with you this time. Rajang, Mizu, Teo and Kush HBG are the best so far. I can kill 8* easily with G5 Rajang, kill 9* basa with Mizu G5.3. The damage on elder dragon ones also insanely unbalanced.
@ArchangelosMHN i see the power of pierce when using the mizu hbg. For the elder dragon hbgs, i just dont like that i have to cycle through sticky and cluster to get back to pierce haha
I disaggre too Bcs, Heavy Bow Gun design for party. And cluster ammo need team for party with huge dmg for kill. In my opinion, this weapon is not designed for solo players.
3:08 I love how you add in visual comparisons in your videos, it makes it easier to judge if it's worth it for our play style. I would love to see one on how focus affects weapons like great sword or hammer.
Don't listen to this guy, i'm using a grade 8 bone hbg and my clusters are dealing 900dmgx3. That means landing 2clusters, which is pretty easy if you know the monster's moveset deletes 2/3ths of their hp immediately and more than likely breaks 1 or multiple parts. Coupled with recoil down pierce ammo, 7 and 8star monsters go down within 30seconds with 0damage taken
Thanks for your videos bro, I am a very fan. Because you offer excellent comparisons and useful elements. I am upgrading Magnamalo HBG as my first Raw weapon to cut tails, and I am doing pretty well.
I personally love hitting monsters mid flight with the cluster ammo. Piercing is great if you can control the distance, but there are many monsters that get in your face. Admittedly I do love fighting Coral Pukei with the Legiana hbg. The defense loading really earns its keep with that squirty guy.
I honestly think Basarios is the best Fire option, hear me out here- Wyvern ammo is more usable than cluster and the statuses actually blend together well for once, Poison is bad for farming but it at least does consistent damage while you cycle through status attacks, sleep comes in right before Wyvern so you can use your strongest move right after knocking out a monster and poisoning a monster doesn’t stop it from falling asleep so you can line up the perfect shot while it takes tick damage!
On the contrary, I find the Black Diablos HBG very hard to use. It's a real challenge to stay within critical distance, by the time you dodge and recover from the dodge, the monster has turned around and started it's next attack, which you then try to dodge AGAIN before firing anything off.
I was pleasantly surprised with the Basarios HBG…I took out a 7* Great Jagras with a grade 4.4!🤣 Best thing is you can use the standard max fire LBG set, but since you only need recoil +1, you can switch out the paolumu chest for the Basarios chest, since that Artillery +2 boosts wyvern ammo even more!😉
My favorite is the Barrioth Heavy Bowgun "Icicle Assault 7" +++GOOD+++ 1.- Great damage for a normal monster & Usable typing (Ice) 3.- Already has a great build (Ice Attack 4 plus Kushala Frost Wind 1) 4.- Evade Extender is decent as the weapon's skill. 5.- Wyvernheart Ammo (Heavy Machine Gun) Special Skill 6.- Six Piercing Ice Ammo & Two Wyvern Ammo 8.- Both Ammo types are slow reload (Not Very Slow) Realod 3 makes them fast 9.- Recoil one fixes recoil, Since Wayvern can't be corrected. ---BAD--- 1.- Wyvern recoil 2.- Monster is locked behind hunt-a-thons 3.- Has another great weapon "Blizzard Cannon +5", twice as hard to complete if you like both. 4.- The level 6 item is the shared 🌟"Wyvern Gem Shard"
I like my Teostra canon. I have options for basically everything except most tails. The damage on elder dragon weapons is also just nuts. I'm taking out 8* monsters with it at 6.3 😅.
cluster is a cluster eff to use, however i found out, you can use it up close like wyvern, just aim at the group and ity skips the mortar like arc. still dunno why artillery doesnt affect cluster shots, seems like a huge oversight. ive been rocking the zino hbg, i love it (and i hates spread on LBG) i need more practice with mizu hbg tho, its tough to use against magna.
I've just said I'll eat the Negative Affinity and Use Burst 4 on Black Diablos... When I get Driftsmeld for Burst on Rath arms and Zin legs I'll switch to Defensive loading and guard up
B. Diablos Weapons are meant to be pure raw damage. No amount of Crit is needed cuz giving Lv4 Crit Eye will only give 10%. It's a waste of space along with WE. Burst, Heroic Fighting Spirit, and Resentment are one of many good options for weapons with high raw damage.
@@abrahamkresnik9726 Ya I am aware of this, I've seen so many people say this that I don't really bring up crit, and just say run burst. because while it's active even a negative crit still deals more then a non negative crit none burst.
Im enjoying the mizu and the zinogre heavy bowgun. Pierce and spread are so much fun. I like using pierce in multiplayer but for solo, spread is the way to go haha!
3:41 I swear this is how the Teo HBG will shine against Gammoth The Legi and Mizu HBGs are directly compatible with the equipment of their respective LBGs, and have higher DPS ceiling that any Ice/Water LBGs when played properly
Thanks for the video - between Black Diablos Bow and Heavy Bowgun, which would you pick? I just want to craft one HBG, so I need to pick one... I was planning to do Teostra as I have the least ranged weapons for Fire (and Rathalos tails are too much of a pain to farm).
@@PauwerPlays Oh ok thanks, that's a good point... forgot the tails... I have an 8.2 BD bow, but I haven't learnt how to use it well yet. Thanks again for this. Maybe I'll just upgrade my BD bow up to 9.1 and maybe that'll help! Thanks again mate :)
cluster getting serious disrespect, it excels more in DL's and HaT's, but if you can time your movement and dodges and get underneath monsters whether they are flying or just they are towering of you, cluster explodes immediately with severe damage.
As someone that has over 800hours in MHW HBG. Im Going to disagree with the Elder drangon weapons. They are the strongest of the list. Along with cluster being a bit...unreliable at times... it does insane amount of damage. It is worth it when you understand how and when to use them. The HBG is about positioning. I dont really dodge with it but i do run 1-2 in guard with defensive reload. I will say tho, I wish there was an elder dragon with wyvern blast. Wyvern blast for solo, cluster for group play.
I found out that 1-2 guard isnt enough to limit knock back on big monster attacks. I just dont like that cluster is so inconsistent. Sometimes it will land on the monster but the bombs wont hit.
i tried magnamalo for raw spread but it really sucks to have cluster.. it is hard to get rid of it when trying to cycle and some times I got stuck on it when I need to guard and the reload procs...
@@randomdrifter That's just a balance issue. I'd much prefer being able to choose the ammo type and have slightly slower shots to compensate for the perceived increase in damage but be able to select the ammo than the way it is now.
When using cluster ammo I try to get under the since the shot explodes when it makes contact, even the initial shot. Then the sub munitions then explodes.
I don't understand why we don't have a Great Girros HBG, it's the only paralysis monster and he doesn't exist for all weapon types 😕 I also don't understand why HBG with sleep bullets doesn't count in the "Defeat monster using their weakness element" objectives 😅
@@rombcr77 MHO had Teostra Gunlance, And 4U, and World had Lunastra -female teostra- Gunlance. So why couldn't we just Colour swap Lunastra GL to red and give it to GL????
Very solid info. The barrioth looks straight up good, and the basarios is at least an interesting playstyle, so it's a shame that they just rotated out. I'm tempted to focus on the bblos, actually, now that our palico can find them especially. What other skills beyond recoil and reload would you recommend for damage?
cara menggunakan cluster ammo. kamu bisa langsung menembakan nya ke monster besar. jika kamu berada tepat dibawah moster besar itu. seperti deviljho contohnya.
Doing baan hbg, 2 round of sleep and Monster zzzz then wywer to wake up😂 Can you help me with reload ans recoil speed for this gun? Looking for nightshade lance so can't build it...
noooooooooo, you forgot notice how good of Wywerm Fire ammo of Basarios, it's the first ammo and you can take advantage of defend loading for keep using Wywerm ammo :(((
I have a 10.5 bblos HBG... It's kinda meh~ The only reason i maxed it was to use up the 2k of materials I had stored up~ If u actually play the weapon for a period of time u will notice another problem beside not being able to get optimal distance... which is actually having 2 of the same ammo type... but at different reload speed... it greatly messes up ur guard or dodge timing... So I personally don't rate bblos HBG highly~ The damage is there... only if u have time & distance to fire ur shots... e.g. group hunts~
I understand your feelings on Cluster, I get it, for sure. I've had some success with it so far, like I took down a 9* Rathian with my 10.1 Magnamalo HBG. It was tough but the cluster definitely played a good part. th-cam.com/video/8Mo3buz1zXQ/w-d-xo.html I think Cluster goes better with Spread instead of Peirce (Magnamalo) because when you're up close, Cluster seems to have an easier time hitting (but can still miss)
Why don't you just give it a tier list as ur personal opinion, catchy and peoples as I am who love tier list will follow the list make it every new patch or update
lol with all due respect, don’t call something gimmicky if it doesn’t mesh with your play style. Clusters have been a staple ammo since the beginning. Those who stuck with it learned how effective they are. All those HBG gunners who had to fight Fatalis and Alatreon know exactly what I’m talking about. Plus, MHN makes it super easy by auto adjusting the arc and distance. In the main games, you not only had to get the aiming right, but you had to get the arc and the distance just right. Then you also had to account for and adjust to your teammates since one missed cluster could knock a teammate away while he was attacking. MHN makes it so easy that it’s like an automatic transmission compared to a stick shift. Complaining about how hard it is to aim sounds silly. In MHN I was killing 8 star monsters with a freshly made G6 Teo or Daora HBG right away. Yes, having to cycle through 3 ammos in which one ammo type doesn’t prove too effective unless you want to sacrifice armor skills for another can be unsavory like the poison in the Coral Pukei HBG. But other than that I’m fine with 3 types of ammo that complement each other. Plus with R3/R3, cycling isn’t a big deal. So, no, clusters aren’t gimmicky. They’re nice and effective and can do massive damage by hitting several areas of the monster at once that can be hard to reach like the back and the wings. Hating on the HBG for its clusters is like hating on Dual Blades for their speed. It’s like criticizing Slipknot for making nu metal or The Beatles for making pop music. That’s their thing. You can’t get mad at one for not being like the other. Let each shine for their own unique abilities. Btw, this isn’t a diss on you. I just had to defend HBG clusters. I love your videos bro
@@brootal4234 thanks for sharing your thoughts man. I see the value of cluster when it hits that back of monsters. I just find it very inconsistent cause of the arc and long travel time. And with inly 75secs, every shot counts. Maybe i just need more time with cluster ammo but im not enjoying it right now 😂
@@PauwerPlays I understand. I will wait a moment to get the right position before firing clusters. But once they land, you find that the slight wait was worth it. It’s like the difference between getting a ham sandwich at 7 Eleven or waiting in line at a deli for a freshly made hot pastrami sandwich or meatball sub. Just give it a second and you’ll be happy with the results. Like I said, G6.0 HBGs are taking down 8 star monsters for me. I had to upgrade my LBGs to 6.5 or 7 in order to get 8 star kills. The timer hasn’t been an issue with me waiting a second longer to get the right shot. I’d say give the Rajang HBG, Teo or Daora some more time. Unlock silver medal for the HBG and then decide on what you really think. If you still dislike clusters after that, then I concede 😂. There won’t be anything more I can say.
Thx for defending the cluster, because I really wanted to like it and can see the potential dmg output for it. But question, how do you compensate for some shots that, even though it seemed like I was at the effective distance, some of the bombs still drops to the ground and explode without damaging the monster? Sometimes I only get 1 explosion from the shots.
@@Natetorius For those moments you have to chalk it up to a missed shot and just figure out your next attack. For positioning and timing, it helps to know all the little cues a monster gives before it attacks. With the HBG clusters, I will aim and fire where I know the monster is going to shift to, not necessarily where it’s at currently. I also keep in mind how much time I have before it charges or fires right at me. For example, if I fire off a cluster and I see the cue that the monster is about to charge, I’ll wait before firing the next cluster, let the monster charge at me and then auto-guard. Then I’ll fire the next cluster. Whether it goes above it or directly at it, it’s still going to do damage. Also, any clusters that fall into the path of where the monster is running or turning will still do damage. Again, it helps to be able to read all the monster’s cues. I think this is why Capcom/Niantic brought in the HBG a year later so that most by now would be more familiar. It’s definitely not a weapon I would recommend to someone who just started.
Zino is the worst gets me killed all the time. I managed to kill a 9⭐Basarios with a 5.1 Coral Pukei HBG. It's ok for what it is. Teo is a monster tho and Basarios is prolly welcomed in every group hunt.
Spread is really risky but it can output a lot of damage. I love using it with defensive loading and just keep unloading shotgun shells haha! The coral pukei still a solid pierce hbg i just prefer the mizu hbg :)
"cluster bad" is definitely a wild take when true damage has always been strong in mh
Never really had consistent results with cluster. Damage is great when it lands but you have to take the time to do some geometry. With wyvern fire, you just fire it off easily haha
@@PauwerPlaysIf you can get underneath monsters (especially ones with wings) before shooting, the cluster shot explodes immediately on direct impact so no travel time necessary.
I have to disagree with cluster ammo. I really love it. It's not easy to use, that is true, but it does have the highest dmg except wyvern and it's so satisfying to hit monsters with it. My favorite HBG is Rajang with sticky and cluster. 4 sticky to the head = one stun which makes is very easy to hit the cluster.
I enjoy cluster when the monster is down but when its moving around, it hurts when it misse. Ive tried it with the rajang hbg and knocking out monster is very fun haha!
@@PauwerPlays Also another thing I noted when playing with piercing, especially the black diablos HBG: It's annoying to try and keep your distance against some monsters. When they're right in your face, you're to close for your ideal range and do less damage.
Also, at least according to the japanese discord, the Magnamalo HBG seems to have the highest potential, even more than BD HBG. But I think it still needs more time and testing to see how everything actually performs.
Nah cluster sucks. Window too huge i get punished a lot. Bblos hbg best❤
sounded like somebody wasted alot rajang material to craft and refuse to admit it suck haha
@@vernonong5865 I mean I could kill with a 5/1 Rajang HBG 8* Rathalos. Certainly doesn't suck.
I have to heavily disagree with you this time. Rajang, Mizu, Teo and Kush HBG are the best so far. I can kill 8* easily with G5 Rajang, kill 9* basa with Mizu G5.3. The damage on elder dragon ones also insanely unbalanced.
And on the other hand, bblos hbg felt underwhelming, especially on the damage output.
@ArchangelosMHN i see the power of pierce when using the mizu hbg. For the elder dragon hbgs, i just dont like that i have to cycle through sticky and cluster to get back to pierce haha
The rajang one is absolutely wonderful and same with mizu
Agree 100%
I disaggre too Bcs, Heavy Bow Gun design for party. And cluster ammo need team for party with huge dmg for kill. In my opinion, this weapon is not designed for solo players.
Running Cluster Ammo in Group Hunt is preferable. Glad the other players were not knocked away from the cluster explosive like in the previous games.
Yeah it is more comfortable to fire cluster when the aggro isnt on you
Thanks, I had been wondering which Ice HBG to make, wanted one versus Black Diablos since it's so often over the other end of the field.
Cluster ammo is for sure my favorite, it has so many benefits once you learn to lead your shots
15mins since the upload, man I'm about to sleep. But I need to see this, I've graded my Bone one to 6 just to practice.
@@darwinalexis026 the video wont go anywhere man! You can watch it when you wake up :)
Careful, you might want to stop there 😂 I'm on 7 and then.. the Black dB HBG just overpowered it
3:08 I love how you add in visual comparisons in your videos, it makes it easier to judge if it's worth it for our play style. I would love to see one on how focus affects weapons like great sword or hammer.
Don't listen to this guy, i'm using a grade 8 bone hbg and my clusters are dealing 900dmgx3. That means landing 2clusters, which is pretty easy if you know the monster's moveset deletes 2/3ths of their hp immediately and more than likely breaks 1 or multiple parts. Coupled with recoil down pierce ammo, 7 and 8star monsters go down within 30seconds with 0damage taken
Thanks for your videos bro, I am a very fan. Because you offer excellent comparisons and useful elements.
I am upgrading Magnamalo HBG as my first Raw weapon to cut tails, and I am doing pretty well.
Glad you appreciate the videos man! Nice to see that you are enjoying the hmagnamalo hbg!
I personally love hitting monsters mid flight with the cluster ammo. Piercing is great if you can control the distance, but there are many monsters that get in your face. Admittedly I do love fighting Coral Pukei with the Legiana hbg. The defense loading really earns its keep with that squirty guy.
Ammo types can greatly depend on the monster your fighting. Ive just never had consistent results with cluster haha!
I honestly think Basarios is the best Fire option, hear me out here- Wyvern ammo is more usable than cluster and the statuses actually blend together well for once, Poison is bad for farming but it at least does consistent damage while you cycle through status attacks, sleep comes in right before Wyvern so you can use your strongest move right after knocking out a monster and poisoning a monster doesn’t stop it from falling asleep so you can line up the perfect shot while it takes tick damage!
Yeah i love wyvern fire and the basarios hbg was already so strong even at a low grade
On the contrary, I find the Black Diablos HBG very hard to use. It's a real challenge to stay within critical distance, by the time you dodge and recover from the dodge, the monster has turned around and started it's next attack, which you then try to dodge AGAIN before firing anything off.
Oh never had that experience. Pierce always seem to have the right timing when i dodge to reload, i can always fire a few shots in
I was pleasantly surprised with the Basarios HBG…I took out a 7* Great Jagras with a grade 4.4!🤣
Best thing is you can use the standard max fire LBG set, but since you only need recoil +1, you can switch out the paolumu chest for the Basarios chest, since that Artillery +2 boosts wyvern ammo even more!😉
Basarios wyvern ammo is pretty crazy. I also hunted a 6 star jagras with my grade 3 basarios hbg!
My favorite is the Barrioth Heavy Bowgun "Icicle Assault 7"
+++GOOD+++
1.- Great damage for a normal monster & Usable typing (Ice)
3.- Already has a great build (Ice Attack 4 plus Kushala Frost Wind 1)
4.- Evade Extender is decent as the weapon's skill.
5.- Wyvernheart Ammo (Heavy Machine Gun) Special Skill
6.- Six Piercing Ice Ammo & Two Wyvern Ammo
8.- Both Ammo types are slow reload (Not Very Slow) Realod 3 makes them fast
9.- Recoil one fixes recoil, Since Wayvern can't be corrected.
---BAD---
1.- Wyvern recoil
2.- Monster is locked behind hunt-a-thons
3.- Has another great weapon "Blizzard Cannon +5", twice as hard to complete if you like both.
4.- The level 6 item is the shared 🌟"Wyvern Gem Shard"
Nightshade Paolumu HBG is my new addiction! Pew pew!! ZZZZZZ.... BOOM!!!! = :)
Wyvern gonna go brrr
I've been loving the Teostra HBG. It has Heroics 2 which is also insane as you can guard your way to it in order to activate it. Insane bowgun.
Thats great! Glad youre enjoying it!
I like my Teostra canon. I have options for basically everything except most tails. The damage on elder dragon weapons is also just nuts. I'm taking out 8* monsters with it at 6.3 😅.
They do have higher stats cos they are harder to farm haha!
Cluster ammo, imo is good in group hunts to deal huge damage while some else is taking the agro
cluster is a cluster eff to use, however i found out, you can use it up close like wyvern, just aim at the group and ity skips the mortar like arc. still dunno why artillery doesnt affect cluster shots, seems like a huge oversight. ive been rocking the zino hbg, i love it (and i hates spread on LBG) i need more practice with mizu hbg tho, its tough to use against magna.
Mizu hbg is so much fun to use against magnamalo since its a long boi haha. Dodging attacks tho is a huge problem for me 😂
I've just said I'll eat the Negative Affinity and Use Burst 4 on Black Diablos...
When I get Driftsmeld for Burst on Rath arms and Zin legs I'll switch to Defensive loading and guard up
It kinda hurts to see multiple purple strike at a time when using the bblos hbg but burst 4 sounds nice
B. Diablos Weapons are meant to be pure raw damage. No amount of Crit is needed cuz giving Lv4 Crit Eye will only give 10%. It's a waste of space along with WE.
Burst, Heroic Fighting Spirit, and Resentment are one of many good options for weapons with high raw damage.
@@abrahamkresnik9726 Ya I am aware of this, I've seen so many people say this that I don't really bring up crit, and just say run burst. because while it's active even a negative crit still deals more then a non negative crit none burst.
@DESMal Yes precisely. Hence why the idea of having a negative crit is not a bad thing when it rewards us with pure raw.
@@abrahamkresnik9726 102.1 RAW FM WHERE WE PLAY EXCLUSIVE RAW DAMAGE MUSIC WITH RAW DAMAGE ON THE SIDE!!!!!!!
Great video as always! What’s your favorite of the bunch pauwerplays? I do resentment for my Bblos hbg and it’s alright. Haha
Im enjoying the mizu and the zinogre heavy bowgun. Pierce and spread are so much fun. I like using pierce in multiplayer but for solo, spread is the way to go haha!
I personally love cluster ammo and actually land my hits lol, also if close enough it hits the monster on impact rather than having to arch.
At the end of the day, it's all about preference! Use the ammo type that's most comfortable :)
3:41 I swear this is how the Teo HBG will shine against Gammoth
The Legi and Mizu HBGs are directly compatible with the equipment of their respective LBGs, and have higher DPS ceiling that any Ice/Water LBGs when played properly
Sticky is fun to use but until the monster gets KOed cluster is a pain to use haha!
Thanks for the video - between Black Diablos Bow and Heavy Bowgun, which would you pick? I just want to craft one HBG, so I need to pick one... I was planning to do Teostra as I have the least ranged weapons for Fire (and Rathalos tails are too much of a pain to farm).
@jinwan3088 teostra tails would be more of a pain to farm tbh haha. Bblos bow is the established meta. Still not sure if bblos hbg can compete
@@PauwerPlays Oh ok thanks, that's a good point... forgot the tails... I have an 8.2 BD bow, but I haven't learnt how to use it well yet. Thanks again for this. Maybe I'll just upgrade my BD bow up to 9.1 and maybe that'll help! Thanks again mate :)
The entire idea for the elder HBG is for hunts in groups ("Unity" remember?) By this logic, cluster ammo makes sense~
Just invested in the ice elder dragon weapon 🙃
great video. thanks
cluster getting serious disrespect, it excels more in DL's and HaT's, but if you can time your movement and dodges and get underneath monsters whether they are flying or just they are towering of you, cluster explodes immediately with severe damage.
Just my personal preference 😅
I just find it very inconsostent. Sometimes its great sometime the bombs just dont land right haha!
Love my Doara heavy bowgun over my black diablos..I’m more consistence and it fires off faster and steadier
Teo HBG is a monster of DPS, can't wait for a fire weak EDI so i can shred it
As someone that has over 800hours in MHW HBG. Im Going to disagree with the Elder drangon weapons. They are the strongest of the list. Along with cluster being a bit...unreliable at times... it does insane amount of damage. It is worth it when you understand how and when to use them. The HBG is about positioning. I dont really dodge with it but i do run 1-2 in guard with defensive reload. I will say tho, I wish there was an elder dragon with wyvern blast. Wyvern blast for solo, cluster for group play.
I found out that 1-2 guard isnt enough to limit knock back on big monster attacks. I just dont like that cluster is so inconsistent. Sometimes it will land on the monster but the bombs wont hit.
Are any Basarios weapons worth investing in?
I've farmed quite a lot for armour pieces and should he able to level is to a solid point
i tried magnamalo for raw spread but it really sucks to have cluster.. it is hard to get rid of it when trying to cycle and some times I got stuck on it when I need to guard and the reload procs...
@@aaroncastil2061 oh man that sounds annoying. 3 ammo types really messes up the flow haha
@@PauwerPlays that's why I'm ditching def. Reload. Im focusing on part breaks to get early topples so I can Use cluster.
Made the CPP HBG at day one because i had extra parts. Max regret
It's still viable :)
I would like to be able to select which ammo to use at any given moment as opposed to having it auto cycle through ammo types.
Saaaame! The auto cycle is really annoying so we have to find other ways to keep reloading the ammo we want.
@@therowofboats4840 would be nice, but also too powerful
@@randomdrifter That's just a balance issue. I'd much prefer being able to choose the ammo type and have slightly slower shots to compensate for the perceived increase in damage but be able to select the ammo than the way it is now.
I am using BD HBG 😊
Hope youre enjoying it!
the tihng i hate about status ammo in this system is that youre still forced to rotate through them when youve already procced the status
When using cluster ammo I try to get under the since the shot explodes when it makes contact, even the initial shot. Then the sub munitions then explodes.
I'll give it a try :)
I don't understand why we don't have a Great Girros HBG, it's the only paralysis monster and he doesn't exist for all weapon types 😕
I also don't understand why HBG with sleep bullets doesn't count in the "Defeat monster using their weakness element" objectives 😅
I think cos the weapon itself doesnt have the status haha
@@rombcr77 MHO had Teostra Gunlance, And 4U, and World had Lunastra -female teostra- Gunlance.
So why couldn't we just Colour swap Lunastra GL to red and give it to GL????
@PauwerPlays Yes but I don't understand why they didn't give the status to the weapons 😂
Very solid info. The barrioth looks straight up good, and the basarios is at least an interesting playstyle, so it's a shame that they just rotated out.
I'm tempted to focus on the bblos, actually, now that our palico can find them especially. What other skills beyond recoil and reload would you recommend for damage?
For the bblos hbg, id recommend adding burst and limiting its negative affinity with crit eye or wex :)
@@PauwerPlays good advice, thanks!
@@gkiyo only for today and tomorrow remaining, she'll be gone after that
barioth seems good on paper, but remember that piercing is long range and wyvern is close range
cara menggunakan cluster ammo. kamu bisa langsung menembakan nya ke monster besar. jika kamu berada tepat dibawah moster besar itu. seperti deviljho contohnya.
Ngapain deket2, ntar keinjek loh 😂
@@evelynn1461 biar kena biji nya bang. dobel damage 🥴
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I just spent Earth Crystals to upgrade my Coral Pukei HBG to grade 6 about 15 mins ago!
Now feel like I wasted a lot of resources 😢
@@christianjosephluz2954 still a solid pierce hbg. I just think that mizu is the better option haha
Any benifit of not having an element on the weapon??
Doing baan hbg, 2 round of sleep and Monster zzzz then wywer to wake up😂 Can you help me with reload ans recoil speed for this gun? Looking for nightshade lance so can't build it...
@@zeledinkaanut7108 you just need recoil down 1 and reload speed 3 :)
@@PauwerPlaysaka Magna chest and Coral-Pukei waist 😉
noooooooooo, you forgot notice how good of Wywerm Fire ammo of Basarios, it's the first ammo and you can take advantage of defend loading for keep using Wywerm ammo :(((
@@quyphuongtay yeah the wyvern ammo is great. I was just using a g3 basarios hbg and i managed to take down a 6 star jargas. Good stuff
Summary of best of each element HBG please ?
I have a 10.5 bblos HBG... It's kinda meh~ The only reason i maxed it was to use up the 2k of materials I had stored up~ If u actually play the weapon for a period of time u will notice another problem beside not being able to get optimal distance... which is actually having 2 of the same ammo type... but at different reload speed... it greatly messes up ur guard or dodge timing... So I personally don't rate bblos HBG highly~ The damage is there... only if u have time & distance to fire ur shots... e.g. group hunts~
I understand your feelings on Cluster, I get it, for sure. I've had some success with it so far, like I took down a 9* Rathian with my 10.1 Magnamalo HBG. It was tough but the cluster definitely played a good part. th-cam.com/video/8Mo3buz1zXQ/w-d-xo.html
I think Cluster goes better with Spread instead of Peirce (Magnamalo) because when you're up close, Cluster seems to have an easier time hitting (but can still miss)
Ohh i have to try it up close. I dont like that it can miss haha. With only 75secs, every shot counts
Please can you make a video lile this for every weapon
What about the thunder HBGs?
But how does Heavy Bowgun compare to other weapons? 😏
most of your problems are because you dont use defense loading and autocycle with it your most loved ammotype XD
I love defensive loading cause i dont have to cycle anymore haha!
Did yiu see the king of burning bridges video by huntersnotes?
Yep. Happy to see overwhelming support for Hunter notes :)
@@PauwerPlays me too. Sad to see such a miserable person king of charmanders is.
@@thecringeprophet hope we can all be friends. We already have such a small community
shoot cluser ammos in the bottom or mid bottom
:)
best weapon is jyura
Having wyvern is so good :)
Cluster can explode under the monster? O.o
nvm it was hidden with the ice section lolol
Why don't you just give it a tier list as ur personal opinion, catchy and peoples as I am who love tier list will follow the list make it every new patch or update
I'll try that format next time :)
@@PauwerPlays love it
Bro, why you sounds like the charmander guy? Are you guys the same
@Trossarddd naaah man totally different haha
lol with all due respect, don’t call something gimmicky if it doesn’t mesh with your play style.
Clusters have been a staple ammo since the beginning. Those who stuck with it learned how effective they are. All those HBG gunners who had to fight Fatalis and Alatreon know exactly what I’m talking about.
Plus, MHN makes it super easy by auto adjusting the arc and distance. In the main games, you not only had to get the aiming right, but you had to get the arc and the distance just right. Then you also had to account for and adjust to your teammates since one missed cluster could knock a teammate away while he was attacking. MHN makes it so easy that it’s like an automatic transmission compared to a stick shift. Complaining about how hard it is to aim sounds silly.
In MHN I was killing 8 star monsters with a freshly made G6 Teo or Daora HBG right away.
Yes, having to cycle through 3 ammos in which one ammo type doesn’t prove too effective unless you want to sacrifice armor skills for another can be unsavory like the poison in the Coral Pukei HBG. But other than that I’m fine with 3 types of ammo that complement each other. Plus with R3/R3, cycling isn’t a big deal.
So, no, clusters aren’t gimmicky. They’re nice and effective and can do massive damage by hitting several areas of the monster at once that can be hard to reach like the back and the wings.
Hating on the HBG for its clusters is like hating on Dual Blades for their speed. It’s like criticizing Slipknot for making nu metal or The Beatles for making pop music. That’s their thing. You can’t get mad at one for not being like the other. Let each shine for their own unique abilities.
Btw, this isn’t a diss on you. I just had to defend HBG clusters. I love your videos bro
@@brootal4234 thanks for sharing your thoughts man. I see the value of cluster when it hits that back of monsters. I just find it very inconsistent cause of the arc and long travel time. And with inly 75secs, every shot counts. Maybe i just need more time with cluster ammo but im not enjoying it right now 😂
@@PauwerPlays I understand. I will wait a moment to get the right position before firing clusters. But once they land, you find that the slight wait was worth it. It’s like the difference between getting a ham sandwich at 7 Eleven or waiting in line at a deli for a freshly made hot pastrami sandwich or meatball sub. Just give it a second and you’ll be happy with the results.
Like I said, G6.0 HBGs are taking down 8 star monsters for me. I had to upgrade my LBGs to 6.5 or 7 in order to get 8 star kills. The timer hasn’t been an issue with me waiting a second longer to get the right shot.
I’d say give the Rajang HBG, Teo or Daora some more time. Unlock silver medal for the HBG and then decide on what you really think. If you still dislike clusters after that, then I concede 😂. There won’t be anything more I can say.
@brootal4234 thanks for the tips man! I'll take my time when using cluster next time
Thx for defending the cluster, because I really wanted to like it and can see the potential dmg output for it. But question, how do you compensate for some shots that, even though it seemed like I was at the effective distance, some of the bombs still drops to the ground and explode without damaging the monster? Sometimes I only get 1 explosion from the shots.
@@Natetorius For those moments you have to chalk it up to a missed shot and just figure out your next attack.
For positioning and timing, it helps to know all the little cues a monster gives before it attacks.
With the HBG clusters, I will aim and fire where I know the monster is going to shift to, not necessarily where it’s at currently. I also keep in mind how much time I have before it charges or fires right at me. For example, if I fire off a cluster and I see the cue that the monster is about to charge, I’ll wait before firing the next cluster, let the monster charge at me and then auto-guard. Then I’ll fire the next cluster. Whether it goes above it or directly at it, it’s still going to do damage. Also, any clusters that fall into the path of where the monster is running or turning will still do damage.
Again, it helps to be able to read all the monster’s cues. I think this is why Capcom/Niantic brought in the HBG a year later so that most by now would be more familiar. It’s definitely not a weapon I would recommend to someone who just started.
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Hate to disagree
And it's perfectly fine haha! We can use whatever ammo we feel comfortable using
Everyone has their own opinion but not being able to handle 3 ammo types and thinking piercing is good? Good luck pal.
Just not a fan of cycling through 3 ammos haha. What's wrong with piercing? :o
i wanna know whats wrong with piercing too
Zino is the worst gets me killed all the time. I managed to kill a 9⭐Basarios with a 5.1 Coral Pukei HBG. It's ok for what it is. Teo is a monster tho and Basarios is prolly welcomed in every group hunt.
Spread is really risky but it can output a lot of damage. I love using it with defensive loading and just keep unloading shotgun shells haha!
The coral pukei still a solid pierce hbg i just prefer the mizu hbg :)
ofc you miss clusters when you aim at moving monster, just aim clusters where the monster is going to be, duh.
It just takes so long to land. I dont feel comfortable using it 😂
Cluster ammo type hack…. Shoot it at the floor . You’re welcome.