Another point towards us being an adult in HW2 IS the ending of the Circus Baby game. We KNOW that Baby is programmed to lure any child left alone with ice cream and then scoop them. We are alone, we are lured with ice cream, but we are not scooped. I think that beat may have been intentionally to show us that we are an adult.
Random theory that just popped in my head watching this, What if your playing as an AI being trained on the downloaded memories of the former technician? Hince the line "Have you looked at your hands, really looked at them?"
i have the theory that after the first ending we still working in the pizzaplex as an endo and the ending 2 happens but i still believe that at least "the first run" we are humans
I doubt you can tie very many strings to this, but at 14:52 when you are talking about Mystic Hippo's voice lines I could not help but notice the "Hello? Can you hear me?" line is the exact same as Tape Girl's opening line in the very first cassette tape. I know "Hello? Can you hear me?" is a very common line that you hear a lot in media so chances are its a very funny coincidence, but since the Steel Wool interview they have said they are very meticulous about these sort of things so people won't draw improper conclusions; I wonder if there happens to be anything there.
Another piece of evidence as to why the HW2 Minigames aren’t just recordings is the repeated line ‘What makes you so special?’, which is said both within the minigames (Moon and Baby specifically come to mind), but also in the hub world by Mystic Hippo. This suggests that the player character in and out of the minigames are likely to be the same, and therefore the minigames (or at least specifically the sister location and moon-associated ones) probably aren’t recordings. It’s technically possible to argue that the shared line could work with them being recordings if the player character in the minigames is still the hub world player character (just at a prior date) or a character with strong connections to the hub world player character.
Ok I have a lot to theorize and explain so I’ll put it into sections. 1. In ruin, we can see the vanni mask can connect to the wearer’s memory, as we see with Cassie in the Roxy salon. That could explain why we play in sister location in hw2, the protagonist (Cassie’s dad) worked at CBE&R. We know someone else worked at the location since on night two baby says “The a drawer beneath you. Someone had crafted it into a hiding place. And it worked for HIM.” We know she can’t be talking about William since she thinks Michael is William. 2. You already know this but the poppets in the files are labeled as “memories”, and these poppets are handed to us by Glitchtrap. Let’s look back at fazbear frights, it stated in the epilogues that the ballpit is the memories of the mci kids, and the main thing the kids remember is a yellow rabbit, who is entirely made of their agony. I feel like both the books and hw2 are telling us that Glitchtrap is somehow an agony being created by the mci’s memories of afton. “But Glitchtrap is the mimic, he can’t be afton!” But what if it’s both? William’s agony from a springtrap circuit board scanned in the hw game using the mimic 01 program, creating Glitchtrap. 3. Theory #2 could also explain burntrap. Tell me, how is the yellow rabbit described in the story? A rabbit animatronic with organic insides. Just like burntrap. What I’m saying is, when trying to bring Glitchtrap to the real world, vanny used various Endo pecies from both past and present, Glitchtrap, and the corpse of William afton filled with so much agony that it’s organs and flesh formed into an almost organic creature, creating burntrap. Another way to back this theory up is the final antagonist of fazbear frights, described as a rabbit animatronic made with multiple animatronic pieces filled with pure agony. 4. Princess quest 4 explains that princess quest 3 didn’t destroy the Glitchtrap virus, it just freed Vanessa from its control. That’s why we have to kill Glitchtrap in the 4th arcade.
To back up point #2, it's also been explicitly stated that agony needs to be paired with a form of intelligence to do anything, "even an artificial one"
One thing I hope you add is this- Glitchtrap in HW mimicking Tape Girl: “Hello, can you hear me?” Mimic in Ruin: “I can hear you! Can you hear me?” Mystic Hippo in HW2: “Hello, can you hear me?”
”REALLY look at your hands” Our hands are virtual even without the mask. We are likely dead (possibly trapped in the VANNI Network), and the minigames are probably our memories or simply scenarios somehow created from information within the VANNI Network or smth like that
My personal theory love it (biased obviously lol) but yeah I believe he’s unalive too and becomes mixes trying to stop his daughter without realising who she is it wraps up mixes too that way
@@redwiltshire1816 It's like fanf 4 when all thought "It was a child's dream" (including fnaf 1 2 3). It was believable and once I believed it, I immediately lost interest in the franchise. Even the fact that only this part of the child's dream makes it uninteresting.
Coincidentally, with Mystic Hippo being potentially fallfest themed, the item next to them is a carosel toy (one of 2 minigames/attractions also in fallfest)
That actually makes sense it’s just the chip effecting his vision he’s not actually a robot could also explain why the cut was removed from the game maybe originally he removed the chip
17:22 imagine some point in the future we can see the 2 kids wearing a tin foil hat to block like, mimic or something to access the cip in their head lmao
Now, here me out, I think it's Cassie's dad trying to piece together his memories. Not only do we collect memories in the Glitch trap ending, but Mystic Hippo says very interesting things that could point to this, like "Do you remember?", "Why are you here?" and "When are you?". IMO, this makes the most sense, especially regarding the other ending we know is also canon because it ties explicitly to Ruin. I mean, how else do we get a statue of it? It may also explain the Sister Location bit, since he might've worked there. This is evidenced by Circus baby's Line "I recognize you", contrasting what she said to Michael, "I don't recognize you" and lines in the original that says there was someone before us (Michael). Finally, as with all FNaF theories, it all comes back to the books. It is a recurring theme in them that says the Dead don't fully remember everything after they die. What do you guys think?
I remember on the livestream, people were freaking out about there being a *SHATTERED* Chica in the food prep minigame, even though it's definitely a ruined environment, but...my guy, it's not like the animatronics just one-frame switched over to their ruined forms as soon as the place shut down. Chica started looking shattered when Gregory put her in the trash compactor, but it probably took a while after the Blob earthquake for her to slowly fall into more disrepair and take on the form of Ruined Chica, which is what we see in Ruin. What we see in the Fazbear Theater minigame is probably just really soon after the place shut down.
Based on the fact the objects we collect in this game are called "memory" plushies, implying that we are using the V.A.N.N.I mask to playthrough memories, as we see Vanny say in her cut lines from the game when talking about Glitchtrap that he is "bound to the past" we are searching through memories to find Glitchtrap. This would also explain why in Help Wanted 2, while we have the V.A.N.N.I. mask on, we see the Pizzeria in its prime, and we also see this happen when we put on the V.A.N.N.I. mask in the Sun's room in RUIN, we see the room as it once was. We also hear sounds from the past while wearing the mask throughout RUIN, children crying, we hear the animatronics lines from Security Breach that they said during the game as we past through different areas.
Excited for RyeDoze launch! Thanks for doing a reading of Into the Pit. I've been trying to get myself to sit down and read the damn thing but ADHD go brrr so listening to you tell it will be an awesome treat
Have you ever tought of about the idea cassie'dad working at the sister location bunker before Michael,in her level she says "i recognize you" and in sl when meeting Michael she says " i dont recognize you" which you could argue its a stetch but it feels really intentional to sw to make that connection . Basically , all the minigames in hw2 are memories of jeremy of his past with faz.ent , from fallfest,to the sl bunker, to the pizzaplex.( I dont think Jeremy was in the fnaf6 location, i just think they threw some of fnaf6 in there just for the fans, or maybe we are missing something)
You can explain the fnaf 6 location as either Jeremy knows Michal and his house or he saw what was inside the secret room and that’s why he left sister location and survived compared to the other technicians who didn’t have the best ending
Thank you for creating ryedoze, as someone who loves putting videos on to sleep/concentrate while I crochet/draw or bullet journal it means a lot. In a world where short form vids are everywhere, long form content is very much appreciated. Thank you for thinking about people who have trouble sleeping or people who need something on in the background to do stuff❤
I like to interpret both the endings as somewhat symbolic. I think that collecting the figurines is representative to wasting your time. Cassie's dad has come here for a reason, and yet Helpy gives him the figurines and he just goes along with it. He thinks he's in control (like the Candy Cadet story says), but he wastes his time and that allows Glitchtrap to use him for his goals. For the Vanny ending, I think the Claw Machine simply represents the PizzaPlex. It's a place Vanny has no access to - it's too dangerous to come here, so she tries to hack the place and control Glitchtrap from the outside. Now, she uses us to collect Glitchtrap and upload it outside of the PizzaPlex (which is Moon taking the plushie from us), but then she destroys the code forever. I think that makes a lot of sense. It's a simple, symbolical explanation of the insanity that happens there.
Can you upload the full Lorekboard as a full image in the description after into the pit? I think it would be useful to the community and I just want to see all the stuff we’ve found as important
2:58 Do note that most of Chica's damage in Food Prep 2 is cosmetic, so it likely is a recurring issue instead of being specific to the events of Security Breach.
If I'm not mistaken the biggest point of the AR game is that new versions of animatronics have been made (and shipped to your house for whatever reason) So this could be the reason why we're seeing ones that should be destroyed
15:40 Isn't Carnie *also* possibly a Rockstar Freddy recolor like Lefty is...? I mean, if Carnie's older - as per the no tummy star and the Fall Fest links - then homeboy is their inspo and not the other way around
Rye's point about the fall fest stuff being in Mystic Hippo's general area reminded me of something I haven't seen/heard anybody really talking about (though I'm far from keeping up with the community so that could be my ignorance), and that is the 'stuff' around puppet poppet. The puppet poppet is in the Sister Location bunker secret room desk drawer, which you type 1983 to open, and then on the table right next to it you get chattering (biting) teeth. This seems a really clear and intentional linking of the puppet to the bite of '83, and I can't for the life of me really figure out WHY that would be. So one thing I'd love to see Rye cover in the 'anything I missed' is investigating into 'why is what stuff around each poppet/how you unlock them and why' to see if there's anything more solid there.
I remember reading somewhere that the "look at your hands" quote only comes after you turn off the inhibitor and that it is a hint to bring your hands close to your face, which will make you realize you can select something aka take off the mask.
I’m so happy I waited until August 5th to watch this lol. I’m excited to hear about the new channel! I already know it’s gonna help me so much with my anxiety and I’m excited to hear I can finally get to hear the Into the Pit. I haven’t had access to the books except for VIP of course but have trouble reading. Thank you so much Rye!
I’m so excited for your audiobook readings! I rarely comment but I always love to relax to your videos and fall asleep to’em. They’re engaging and soothing 🩵
I hope you had a wonderful, relaxing, and refreshing vacation. You clearly work extremely hard on everything you do, be it work or family. Remember to take care of yourself as well!
Just came here to thank you for making that channel and also the announcement that you re going to post longer videos.I suffer from a really bad insomnia, and for some time ( i think 6 months) i ve been sleeping on your videos because they calm me down. Awesome work dude, keep it up 🤗🤗🤗
Hey rye amazing work! I hope you had safe travels! I was wondering if you were going to add your third channel videos to something like Spotify? Thanks and keep up the incredible work!
I love the idea of ryedoze ❤thank you for thinking of us sleepy insomniacs 😂 your videos work very well to lull me into a calm head space. Tossing so much support your way!
I actually think that in HW2 some of the minigames are actually our character (who might have been to the sister location before, and fall fest) having flashbacks to memories of his childhood but some of them might have been altered, like with Sister Location: In The actual game Circus Baby said that someone was there before, so maybe in HW2 it's our player character remembering that he almost died, but when the Funtimes found out that our player character isn't the person that they've been looking for, they set us free. But hey that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY!!!!!💚❤️💛💙
Will be checking out RyeDoze! Never said it before, but I do like to listen to your videos in the background. I like to write fiction, so it's nice to have longer or calmer videos that I don't have to focus on all the time when I still need background sound to write to.
I keep forgetting to ask: are you not gonna get in trouble with copyright by making your own audio book recording? I remember Dawko used to read parts of the book with commentary in between, but he stopped doing it a long time ago. I always thought it was some copyright issue.
I remember that, Dawko’s book summaries were so helpful!! if i remember right, I think he just got really burnt out doing them, but it’s been a long time since he stopped, so i might be misremembering. I don’t know how the copyright thing works for this, but there’s a couple other channels who do full read-throughs of the fnaf books, so Scott seems to be okay with it!!
It should be fine, Scott is very chill with the fanbase, if he wasn’t I don’t think we’d have as many fan games featuring his characters, and yeah others have also done read throughs
It’s insane how steel wool is doing such a amazing job with Fnaf and it’s story… it still feels the same as “classic Fnaf”: the lore digging, the “it WaS A hALLuCinAtiOn”, the little tid bits and the way they input the use of physical/visual metaphors that make you question “is this symbolism or for real life?” So excited for next week Rye! 🫶🏻
Random thing, but when you look at Lefty's endoskeleton in help wanted 2, it doesn't look like it has any mechanisms to capture the puppet, no claws or latches or anything Also maybe the sister location mini games are trying to say that our main character was at the sister location bunker, there were those two technicians in sister location, witch implies their were other employees there
Something I’d like to see on Ryedoze would be once you complete your timeline you write it in the form of a story/book and read it. I feel like that would be really cool
Funtime Chica is in the Sister Location bunker which is very odd since she is no where to be seen. (except if you believe the theory that she’s the springlock suit)
What I mean is that in Sister Location (the game) she is no where to be seen. She is also in the private area (in Help Wanted 2) and seeing how in Sister Location we (technically) never enter into that room it could be possible that Funtime Chica could’ve possibly been in the private room (along with Yenndo & Bonnet) throughout Sister Location without us knowing or going in. Why does this matter? I don’t know but she is in the title screen in Help Wanted 2.
I think it’s worth noting that the wall behind you in this ending, is the wall in the secret room from around the daycare area, where you can play the glitched version of bbworld in security breach
About the SL level. I've also heard the theory that our protagonist, along with BonnieBully's theory, regardless of whether you consider them Jeremy, could be one of the technicians at CBER, before Michael, and the level as a whole is the recreation of our memories. Specifically, I am interested in the line of the voice "I recognize you", contrasting with the phrase from SL "I DON'T recognize you", is it strange? This also includes the elevator from PQ, where the arcade mini-game itself is quite strange. I think if our protagonist had seen this elevator, it would explain his presence there and the rest of the level specifically related to ours and the past in general (MCI dolls, our mask and the elevator). Of course, I can't guess what OMC is doing there near the elevator, he's just kinda random? Maybe it's Cassie's dead father reliving his memories, maybe he's just hallucinating (The princess did her job, lol)
It's highly recommended that you have at least 2-3 videos live when you start up a channel, that way the algorithm doesn't see a bunch of people go there, watch one video, then click away. Or worse, just sub & not watch anything. It's always a good idea to have a couple videos so that people can watch them & get you into their algorithm. Something I've learned over the years from other TH-camrs. Best of luck on the new channel, though!
The sister location stuff could just be AR Training scenarios recreated by the VANNI mask. That’s what I think it is most likely with the info the game tells use.
I could imagine the person we're playing as is maybe reliving the moments we had due to the vr, that are "important" memories we experienced. Good ones, bad ones, funny ones etc. Could explain why there are so many Fazbear buildings are present
I'm rewatching the HW and HW 2 videos, and I gotta say, I agree with Rye. He has to get sick more often lol I started giggling when he sang, and my parents just looked at me confused
I must say, nothing makes me look closer at my hands than that Mystic Hippo line. I do, in fact, look at my hands. Just about every time I watch a Help Wanted 2 lore video...
One thing HW2 confirms, that is critical, is that years have taken place between SB and Ruin. Even more, years have taken place between SB and HW2 (enough time for The Ruin to have happened and the MegaPizzaPlex to rot) as well as between HW2 and Ruin (Cassie's father disappearing has clearly taken place years before Ruin, enough that Cassie isn't actively grieving and finding his FazWrench is unusual). This is important for the lore implications this holds for Ruin, implications that have many pieces of supporting circumstantial evidence in the games.
8:15 Well if combing the Faz Force figures creates a faz-bon-a-tron (or however you spell it), and when you collect them all in game you immediately see/release Glitchtrap, who takes the form of a golden bonnie suit. I'd say there is definitely a connection there.
If PQ4 Old Man is indeed the Mimic, then what Cassie's dad did, is just replaced the person behind the wheel of the big bad. Think about it that way, Vanny is a persona made by Glitchtrap after overtaking Mimic1 program that's inside of the VANNI mask, after Gregory completes Princess Quest 3, Glitchtrap is pushed back into the VR world, or the MXES machine, who knows, i am not too smart to figure that one out anyway. And so with that, Mimic gains control over it's physical body, which is Burntrap, and so the flesh and the Afton suit withered away, now that he's not posessing anyone. But Mimic already learned from William how to be, well, William, and it did what William does best: lure somebody in a trap and kill them, just like what he did with Vanessa in Help Wanted and the missing children. So what we see in Help Wanted 2 is finally destroying the past of the old Freddy's, what started it all, but Mimic, the Mimic1 program that got William's knowledge, is now in charge of not only the title of the next big bad, but the Vanny personality. Look how the trade goes: the player gives Old Man (the Mimic) the VANNI mask, essentially giving it control over the mask, and for that, we recieve the Glitchtrap plush FROM Old Man, meaning that Glitchtrap's control is now in our hands, and THEN we get in the elevator where we get to the real Vanny, which is now in control of the Mimic1, we give Glitchtrap to her, and she KILLS Glitchtrap, killing the remnants of William Afton. Permanently. That's why in Ruin, Mimic1 program still exists, but Glitchtrap is gone - those are 2 separate identities, fighting for control, and William lost. Burntrap is the body of the Mimic, but haunted by William Afton, hence why there is flesh and Springbonnie parts, but after PQ ending in Security Breach, William's not in control, and Mimic took his chance to eliminate the threat, and succeeded. Vanny still exists for the same reason Mimic1 still exists - Vanny's not dependent on Glitchtrap's existence. And with that, Greg the traitor cuts the elevator down, with Cassie and the chip in her head that slowly turns her into Vanny, ultimately making the right call..Until Cassie survives in the next game and becomes next Vanny. That also is the explanation behind Vanessa and Gregory returning to the Pizzaplex.
Forgot to point it out properly, but William is now Dead, permanently, completely replaced with the Mimic, just like Steelwool intended after remaking Security Breach. He won't come back anymore... Until Scott says: "Haha! That was a trick, there are 2 Springtraps, and William is alive!!!!!!" I swear, if ALL the upcoming interactive novels are canon to the games, that means that the ITP Bonnie from the cover of the book is Scraptrap. Because they have a similar structure, and lower jaw. I will be so angry if he does that.
I personally like the theory that the mini games are his memory’s. If it was a recreation, why would the shattered animatronics be there? And if they were recordings, why does circus baby say “I recognize you” and her and the others say “what makes YOU so special”
Not sure if mentioned in another video, but I find the door designs of FNaF 1 very weird. Why would a normal office have vault doors? Did people already built this to be a dungeon? Was this made to challenge the guard? Idk, but it is weird
Just a reminder that our most likely next sw game is Fall Fest (maybe a fredbears game and an og freddy's game, like before fnaf 1) And I am hoping for a game that makes a more coherent 1-6 collection game. Mainly because there are resets in the timeline at 2, 4, 5, 6, and Help Wanted. All of them are taking a story and changing things. So, things get paved over, get changed heavily, and more. It is very much needed.
Very interesting. I like this theory very much. You should send this to MatPat so he can react and maybe think of incorporating it in his theory. So awesome thanks Riley ❤
I just thought of sumthin... What if fall fest isnt a fazbear sanctioned event but rather where william and henry became famous for thier animatronic design and ideas, which led them to create the pizzeria and diner.
An overlooked timeline detail is that in UCN, it's specifically Withered Chica that states she was the first This combined with the implication that the withered animatronics are completely different models from the original 5 means that Susie isn't required to have been the first MCI victim to be killed
Another point towards us being an adult in HW2 IS the ending of the Circus Baby game. We KNOW that Baby is programmed to lure any child left alone with ice cream and then scoop them. We are alone, we are lured with ice cream, but we are not scooped. I think that beat may have been intentionally to show us that we are an adult.
That’s acc smart
I thought it is obvious...
My dumass read hw2 as Hotwheels 2
tbf its not like she CANT scoop adults, michael was likely a young adult when he got scooped. but interesting point nonetheless
@@charboundI may have miss something, but I think when Mike was scoope it wasnt baby claw, but a machine in afton bunker
Random theory that just popped in my head watching this, What if your playing as an AI being trained on the downloaded memories of the former technician? Hince the line "Have you looked at your hands, really looked at them?"
Like we’re playing as an Endo? That’s really interesting
i have the theory that after the first ending we still working in the pizzaplex as an endo and the ending 2 happens
but i still believe that at least "the first run" we are humans
Are we playing as mask bot????
@@Imtrying_girlOr the AI that could go in an endo, but is set to maskbot for being troublesome
Personally I think we a ghost mixes to be specific what if the technician was turned into an A.I and that A.I become posses by said technician
I doubt you can tie very many strings to this, but at 14:52 when you are talking about Mystic Hippo's voice lines I could not help but notice the "Hello? Can you hear me?" line is the exact same as Tape Girl's opening line in the very first cassette tape. I know "Hello? Can you hear me?" is a very common line that you hear a lot in media so chances are its a very funny coincidence, but since the Steel Wool interview they have said they are very meticulous about these sort of things so people won't draw improper conclusions; I wonder if there happens to be anything there.
Glitchtrap also seems to be saying the same thing in Help Wanted 1, when your in the lobby. Its the echoey sounds coming from him.
Another piece of evidence as to why the HW2 Minigames aren’t just recordings is the repeated line ‘What makes you so special?’, which is said both within the minigames (Moon and Baby specifically come to mind), but also in the hub world by Mystic Hippo. This suggests that the player character in and out of the minigames are likely to be the same, and therefore the minigames (or at least specifically the sister location and moon-associated ones) probably aren’t recordings. It’s technically possible to argue that the shared line could work with them being recordings if the player character in the minigames is still the hub world player character (just at a prior date) or a character with strong connections to the hub world player character.
8:30 the DEEP theatre kid cut to Santa Fe was very much appreciated Ry
Thank you! I was gonna go nuts remembering what song that was lol.
The whiplash to that was something ngl
I had to really think to remember that line but I got there eventually lol
I’m glad I’m not the only theater kid that got jumpscared by the Tom Collins impression 😅
Ok I have a lot to theorize and explain so I’ll put it into sections.
1. In ruin, we can see the vanni mask can connect to the wearer’s memory, as we see with Cassie in the Roxy salon. That could explain why we play in sister location in hw2, the protagonist (Cassie’s dad) worked at CBE&R. We know someone else worked at the location since on night two baby says “The a drawer beneath you. Someone had crafted it into a hiding place. And it worked for HIM.” We know she can’t be talking about William since she thinks Michael is William.
2. You already know this but the poppets in the files are labeled as “memories”, and these poppets are handed to us by Glitchtrap. Let’s look back at fazbear frights, it stated in the epilogues that the ballpit is the memories of the mci kids, and the main thing the kids remember is a yellow rabbit, who is entirely made of their agony. I feel like both the books and hw2 are telling us that Glitchtrap is somehow an agony being created by the mci’s memories of afton. “But Glitchtrap is the mimic, he can’t be afton!” But what if it’s both? William’s agony from a springtrap circuit board scanned in the hw game using the mimic 01 program, creating Glitchtrap.
3. Theory #2 could also explain burntrap. Tell me, how is the yellow rabbit described in the story? A rabbit animatronic with organic insides. Just like burntrap. What I’m saying is, when trying to bring Glitchtrap to the real world, vanny used various Endo pecies from both past and present, Glitchtrap, and the corpse of William afton filled with so much agony that it’s organs and flesh formed into an almost organic creature, creating burntrap. Another way to back this theory up is the final antagonist of fazbear frights, described as a rabbit animatronic made with multiple animatronic pieces filled with pure agony.
4. Princess quest 4 explains that princess quest 3 didn’t destroy the Glitchtrap virus, it just freed Vanessa from its control. That’s why we have to kill Glitchtrap in the 4th arcade.
To back up point #2, it's also been explicitly stated that agony needs to be paired with a form of intelligence to do anything, "even an artificial one"
One thing I hope you add is this-
Glitchtrap in HW mimicking Tape Girl: “Hello, can you hear me?”
Mimic in Ruin: “I can hear you! Can you hear me?”
Mystic Hippo in HW2: “Hello, can you hear me?”
”REALLY look at your hands”
Our hands are virtual even without the mask. We are likely dead (possibly trapped in the VANNI Network), and the minigames are probably our memories or simply scenarios somehow created from information within the VANNI Network or smth like that
Most boring theory
My personal theory love it (biased obviously lol) but yeah I believe he’s unalive too and becomes mixes trying to stop his daughter without realising who she is it wraps up mixes too that way
@@lynrayy”the most obvious answer is normally the correct answer” -Occam’s razor
@@redwiltshire1816 I dont because if it is true, it means that all your actions were meaningless
@@redwiltshire1816 It's like fanf 4 when all thought "It was a child's dream" (including fnaf 1 2 3). It was believable and once I believed it, I immediately lost interest in the franchise. Even the fact that only this part of the child's dream makes it uninteresting.
Coincidentally, with Mystic Hippo being potentially fallfest themed, the item next to them is a carosel toy (one of 2 minigames/attractions also in fallfest)
If Gregory did have that chip, it would explain why his Vision goes the way it does when Vanny walks by
That actually makes sense it’s just the chip effecting his vision he’s not actually a robot could also explain why the cut was removed from the game maybe originally he removed the chip
17:22 imagine some point in the future we can see the 2 kids wearing a tin foil hat to block like, mimic or something to access the cip in their head lmao
The one good thing about getting sick: doing fun tests with how the illness messes with your voice
Now, here me out, I think it's Cassie's dad trying to piece together his memories. Not only do we collect memories in the Glitch trap ending, but Mystic Hippo says very interesting things that could point to this, like "Do you remember?", "Why are you here?" and "When are you?". IMO, this makes the most sense, especially regarding the other ending we know is also canon because it ties explicitly to Ruin. I mean, how else do we get a statue of it? It may also explain the Sister Location bit, since he might've worked there. This is evidenced by Circus baby's Line "I recognize you", contrasting what she said to Michael, "I don't recognize you" and lines in the original that says there was someone before us (Michael). Finally, as with all FNaF theories, it all comes back to the books. It is a recurring theme in them that says the Dead don't fully remember everything after they die. What do you guys think?
I remember on the livestream, people were freaking out about there being a *SHATTERED* Chica in the food prep minigame, even though it's definitely a ruined environment, but...my guy, it's not like the animatronics just one-frame switched over to their ruined forms as soon as the place shut down. Chica started looking shattered when Gregory put her in the trash compactor, but it probably took a while after the Blob earthquake for her to slowly fall into more disrepair and take on the form of Ruined Chica, which is what we see in Ruin. What we see in the Fazbear Theater minigame is probably just really soon after the place shut down.
Based on the fact the objects we collect in this game are called "memory" plushies, implying that we are using the V.A.N.N.I mask to playthrough memories, as we see Vanny say in her cut lines from the game when talking about Glitchtrap that he is "bound to the past" we are searching through memories to find Glitchtrap. This would also explain why in Help Wanted 2, while we have the V.A.N.N.I. mask on, we see the Pizzeria in its prime, and we also see this happen when we put on the V.A.N.N.I. mask in the Sun's room in RUIN, we see the room as it once was. We also hear sounds from the past while wearing the mask throughout RUIN, children crying, we hear the animatronics lines from Security Breach that they said during the game as we past through different areas.
Excited for RyeDoze launch! Thanks for doing a reading of Into the Pit. I've been trying to get myself to sit down and read the damn thing but ADHD go brrr so listening to you tell it will be an awesome treat
Have you ever tought of about the idea cassie'dad working at the sister location bunker before Michael,in her level she says "i recognize you" and in sl when meeting Michael she says " i dont recognize you" which you could argue its a stetch but it feels really intentional to sw to make that connection . Basically , all the minigames in hw2 are memories of jeremy of his past with faz.ent , from fallfest,to the sl bunker, to the pizzaplex.( I dont think Jeremy was in the fnaf6 location, i just think they threw some of fnaf6 in there just for the fans, or maybe we are missing something)
You can explain the fnaf 6 location as either Jeremy knows Michal and his house or he saw what was inside the secret room and that’s why he left sister location and survived compared to the other technicians who didn’t have the best ending
@@paul-burger8269 I agree with everything except for his name being Jeremy. Blame RemGames.
Thank you for creating ryedoze, as someone who loves putting videos on to sleep/concentrate while I crochet/draw or bullet journal it means a lot. In a world where short form vids are everywhere, long form content is very much appreciated. Thank you for thinking about people who have trouble sleeping or people who need something on in the background to do stuff❤
I like to interpret both the endings as somewhat symbolic.
I think that collecting the figurines is representative to wasting your time. Cassie's dad has come here for a reason, and yet Helpy gives him the figurines and he just goes along with it. He thinks he's in control (like the Candy Cadet story says), but he wastes his time and that allows Glitchtrap to use him for his goals.
For the Vanny ending, I think the Claw Machine simply represents the PizzaPlex. It's a place Vanny has no access to - it's too dangerous to come here, so she tries to hack the place and control Glitchtrap from the outside. Now, she uses us to collect Glitchtrap and upload it outside of the PizzaPlex (which is Moon taking the plushie from us), but then she destroys the code forever. I think that makes a lot of sense. It's a simple, symbolical explanation of the insanity that happens there.
Can you upload the full Lorekboard as a full image in the description after into the pit? I think it would be useful to the community and I just want to see all the stuff we’ve found as important
2:58 Do note that most of Chica's damage in Food Prep 2 is cosmetic, so it likely is a recurring issue instead of being specific to the events of Security Breach.
I love the lorkboard
Its such a fun word
20:03 Why am I just now noticing the post it note on the left that has Freddy and Bonnie making out
babe wake up, new lork board video just dropped
I just realized that if we’re Cassie’s dad in HW2 that it would make sense that he puts the face plate on Roxy and re wires her to go save cassie
0:03 THE WEEK BEFORE REFERENCE??? 😱😱
“Michael themed skin suit” has to be a brand new sentence
If I'm not mistaken the biggest point of the AR game is that new versions of animatronics have been made (and shipped to your house for whatever reason) So this could be the reason why we're seeing ones that should be destroyed
15:40 Isn't Carnie *also* possibly a Rockstar Freddy recolor like Lefty is...?
I mean, if Carnie's older - as per the no tummy star and the Fall Fest links - then homeboy is their inspo and not the other way around
Rye's point about the fall fest stuff being in Mystic Hippo's general area reminded me of something I haven't seen/heard anybody really talking about (though I'm far from keeping up with the community so that could be my ignorance), and that is the 'stuff' around puppet poppet.
The puppet poppet is in the Sister Location bunker secret room desk drawer, which you type 1983 to open, and then on the table right next to it you get chattering (biting) teeth. This seems a really clear and intentional linking of the puppet to the bite of '83, and I can't for the life of me really figure out WHY that would be.
So one thing I'd love to see Rye cover in the 'anything I missed' is investigating into 'why is what stuff around each poppet/how you unlock them and why' to see if there's anything more solid there.
I remember reading somewhere that the "look at your hands" quote only comes after you turn off the inhibitor and that it is a hint to bring your hands close to your face, which will make you realize you can select something aka take off the mask.
I’m so happy I waited until August 5th to watch this lol. I’m excited to hear about the new channel! I already know it’s gonna help me so much with my anxiety and I’m excited to hear I can finally get to hear the Into the Pit. I haven’t had access to the books except for VIP of course but have trouble reading. Thank you so much Rye!
I’m so excited for your audiobook readings! I rarely comment but I always love to relax to your videos and fall asleep to’em. They’re engaging and soothing 🩵
I hope you had a wonderful, relaxing, and refreshing vacation. You clearly work extremely hard on everything you do, be it work or family. Remember to take care of yourself as well!
Just came here to thank you for making that channel and also the announcement that you re going to post longer videos.I suffer from a really bad insomnia, and for some time ( i think 6 months) i ve been sleeping on your videos because they calm me down. Awesome work dude, keep it up 🤗🤗🤗
really good theory rye! hope you get well soon!
Hey rye amazing work! I hope you had safe travels! I was wondering if you were going to add your third channel videos to something like Spotify? Thanks and keep up the incredible work!
I love the idea of ryedoze ❤thank you for thinking of us sleepy insomniacs 😂 your videos work very well to lull me into a calm head space. Tossing so much support your way!
My favorite part of the video is seeing what rye says when kitty leaves😭
With how much you gotta keep up with FNAF, you need all the cat grooming you can give to your cats.
The smartest cat for fnaf lore
I’m so glad you’re embracing rye doze!! TH-camrs are integral to my sleep schedule at the moment
I want a hat for the cat made out of the fur collected by the brush.
I actually think that in HW2 some of the minigames are actually our character (who might have been to the sister location before, and fall fest) having flashbacks to memories of his childhood but some of them might have been altered, like with Sister Location: In The actual game Circus Baby said that someone was there before, so maybe in HW2 it's our player character remembering that he almost died, but when the Funtimes found out that our player character isn't the person that they've been looking for, they set us free. But hey that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY!!!!!💚❤️💛💙
Will be checking out RyeDoze! Never said it before, but I do like to listen to your videos in the background. I like to write fiction, so it's nice to have longer or calmer videos that I don't have to focus on all the time when I still need background sound to write to.
I keep forgetting to ask: are you not gonna get in trouble with copyright by making your own audio book recording? I remember Dawko used to read parts of the book with commentary in between, but he stopped doing it a long time ago. I always thought it was some copyright issue.
I remember that, Dawko’s book summaries were so helpful!! if i remember right, I think he just got really burnt out doing them, but it’s been a long time since he stopped, so i might be misremembering. I don’t know how the copyright thing works for this, but there’s a couple other channels who do full read-throughs of the fnaf books, so Scott seems to be okay with it!!
It should be fine, Scott is very chill with the fanbase, if he wasn’t I don’t think we’d have as many fan games featuring his characters, and yeah others have also done read throughs
I am so so excited for this long form content channel
It’s insane how steel wool is doing such a amazing job with Fnaf and it’s story… it still feels the same as “classic Fnaf”: the lore digging, the “it WaS A hALLuCinAtiOn”, the little tid bits and the way they input the use of physical/visual metaphors that make you question “is this symbolism or for real life?”
So excited for next week Rye! 🫶🏻
Random thing, but when you look at Lefty's endoskeleton in help wanted 2, it doesn't look like it has any mechanisms to capture the puppet, no claws or latches or anything
Also maybe the sister location mini games are trying to say that our main character was at the sister location bunker, there were those two technicians in sister location, witch implies their were other employees there
Something I’d like to see on Ryedoze would be once you complete your timeline you write it in the form of a story/book and read it. I feel like that would be really cool
Can I just say I love how you have the SA2 knuckles music in the background? Especially Deeper and Dive into the Mellow
Funtime Chica is in the Sister Location bunker which is very odd since she is no where to be seen. (except if you believe the theory that she’s the springlock suit)
What I mean is that in Sister Location (the game) she is no where to be seen. She is also in the private area (in Help Wanted 2) and seeing how in Sister Location we (technically) never enter into that room it could be possible that Funtime Chica could’ve possibly been in the private room (along with Yenndo & Bonnet) throughout Sister Location without us knowing or going in. Why does this matter? I don’t know but she is in the title screen in Help Wanted 2.
I think it’s worth noting that the wall behind you in this ending, is the wall in the secret room from around the daycare area, where you can play the glitched version of bbworld in security breach
14:53 that hello can you hear me is a straight up Vanessa/tape girl quote
About the SL level. I've also heard the theory that our protagonist, along with BonnieBully's theory, regardless of whether you consider them Jeremy, could be one of the technicians at CBER, before Michael, and the level as a whole is the recreation of our memories. Specifically, I am interested in the line of the voice "I recognize you", contrasting with the phrase from SL "I DON'T recognize you", is it strange? This also includes the elevator from PQ, where the arcade mini-game itself is quite strange. I think if our protagonist had seen this elevator, it would explain his presence there and the rest of the level specifically related to ours and the past in general (MCI dolls, our mask and the elevator). Of course, I can't guess what OMC is doing there near the elevator, he's just kinda random?
Maybe it's Cassie's dead father reliving his memories, maybe he's just hallucinating (The princess did her job, lol)
Another thing for the board: Helpy gets increasingly angry if you don't pick up the gifts on the stage (I believe the action figures)
It's highly recommended that you have at least 2-3 videos live when you start up a channel, that way the algorithm doesn't see a bunch of people go there, watch one video, then click away. Or worse, just sub & not watch anything. It's always a good idea to have a couple videos so that people can watch them & get you into their algorithm. Something I've learned over the years from other TH-camrs. Best of luck on the new channel, though!
I had to rewind because I thought you said there was Hate Mail in Fallfest
I had originally guessed the 3rd channel's name would be "RyeProse" since it's a reading channel, but RyeDoze sounds good too!
14:20 dream works eyebrows
ryedoze is an amazing idea. I lovve it!
The sister location stuff could just be AR Training scenarios recreated by the VANNI mask. That’s what I think it is most likely with the info the game tells use.
I could imagine the person we're playing as is maybe reliving the moments we had due to the vr, that are "important" memories we experienced. Good ones, bad ones, funny ones etc. Could explain why there are so many Fazbear buildings are present
..Was it just me or was Rye's sick voice kinda hot----
hearing Colins part from Santa Fe in a FNAF video was unexpected. Now i need to listen to the whole Rent soundtrack again.
Wasn't expecting the momentary Rent diversion, that was awesome 😂
What a coincidence I'm on vacation, too.
Very excited for RyeDoze! Literally listening to this now while going to bed! Any chance you can put these on Spotify?
I'm rewatching the HW and HW 2 videos, and I gotta say, I agree with Rye. He has to get sick more often lol
I started giggling when he sang, and my parents just looked at me confused
Oooo I'm gonna sleep so hard with this new channel in the background 😂❤❤
I must say, nothing makes me look closer at my hands than that Mystic Hippo line. I do, in fact, look at my hands. Just about every time I watch a Help Wanted 2 lore video...
17:30 oh yeah I noticed that picture in a room that contains a stamina upgrade near the room full of vats
I think that each minigame folder takes place in different pizza plex's and each Faz force toy was sold in different pizza plex's
very creative thumbnail text "TIMELINE LORE"
One thing HW2 confirms, that is critical, is that years have taken place between SB and Ruin. Even more, years have taken place between SB and HW2 (enough time for The Ruin to have happened and the MegaPizzaPlex to rot) as well as between HW2 and Ruin (Cassie's father disappearing has clearly taken place years before Ruin, enough that Cassie isn't actively grieving and finding his FazWrench is unusual). This is important for the lore implications this holds for Ruin, implications that have many pieces of supporting circumstantial evidence in the games.
Anyone know what security breach ending uses the song “Happy(true) Ending”?
15:37 and rockstar freddy
8:15 Well if combing the Faz Force figures creates a faz-bon-a-tron (or however you spell it), and when you collect them all in game you immediately see/release Glitchtrap, who takes the form of a golden bonnie suit. I'd say there is definitely a connection there.
Bonus points for the Rent reference!
Yay! 🎉 Rye posted a video on my birthday!🎉
If PQ4 Old Man is indeed the Mimic, then what Cassie's dad did, is just replaced the person behind the wheel of the big bad.
Think about it that way, Vanny is a persona made by Glitchtrap after overtaking Mimic1 program that's inside of the VANNI mask, after Gregory completes Princess Quest 3, Glitchtrap is pushed back into the VR world, or the MXES machine, who knows, i am not too smart to figure that one out anyway. And so with that, Mimic gains control over it's physical body, which is Burntrap, and so the flesh and the Afton suit withered away, now that he's not posessing anyone. But Mimic already learned from William how to be, well, William, and it did what William does best: lure somebody in a trap and kill them, just like what he did with Vanessa in Help Wanted and the missing children.
So what we see in Help Wanted 2 is finally destroying the past of the old Freddy's, what started it all, but Mimic, the Mimic1 program that got William's knowledge, is now in charge of not only the title of the next big bad, but the Vanny personality. Look how the trade goes: the player gives Old Man (the Mimic) the VANNI mask, essentially giving it control over the mask, and for that, we recieve the Glitchtrap plush FROM Old Man, meaning that Glitchtrap's control is now in our hands, and THEN we get in the elevator where we get to the real Vanny, which is now in control of the Mimic1, we give Glitchtrap to her, and she KILLS Glitchtrap, killing the remnants of William Afton. Permanently.
That's why in Ruin, Mimic1 program still exists, but Glitchtrap is gone - those are 2 separate identities, fighting for control, and William lost. Burntrap is the body of the Mimic, but haunted by William Afton, hence why there is flesh and Springbonnie parts, but after PQ ending in Security Breach, William's not in control, and Mimic took his chance to eliminate the threat, and succeeded. Vanny still exists for the same reason Mimic1 still exists - Vanny's not dependent on Glitchtrap's existence.
And with that, Greg the traitor cuts the elevator down, with Cassie and the chip in her head that slowly turns her into Vanny, ultimately making the right call..Until Cassie survives in the next game and becomes next Vanny. That also is the explanation behind Vanessa and Gregory returning to the Pizzaplex.
Forgot to point it out properly, but William is now Dead, permanently, completely replaced with the Mimic, just like Steelwool intended after remaking Security Breach. He won't come back anymore...
Until Scott says: "Haha! That was a trick, there are 2 Springtraps, and William is alive!!!!!!" I swear, if ALL the upcoming interactive novels are canon to the games, that means that the ITP Bonnie from the cover of the book is Scraptrap. Because they have a similar structure, and lower jaw. I will be so angry if he does that.
Bro you are a freaking genius i love it
@@jaquejoybaby Thanks, man !
I personally like the theory that the mini games are his memory’s. If it was a recreation, why would the shattered animatronics be there? And if they were recordings, why does circus baby say “I recognize you” and her and the others say “what makes YOU so special”
Not sure if mentioned in another video, but I find the door designs of FNaF 1 very weird. Why would a normal office have vault doors? Did people already built this to be a dungeon? Was this made to challenge the guard? Idk, but it is weird
2:02 KEEP THAT IN MIND?? FLAWED PEACOCK REFERRENCE??
The middle of the video Santa Fe reference mind-blowing amazing job
“Gather some ingredients “ he’s mixing up the formula
hyped for rye doze
Will we have RyeDoze on Spotify? That would be fantastic
To explain why we play in Sister Location, what if the player of help wanted 2 was also a technician for the Sister Location bunker?
im personally v close to someone on the inside, all i can say is “dont mistake bad game design for purposeful messaging” (paraphrasing)
Just a reminder that our most likely next sw game is Fall Fest (maybe a fredbears game and an og freddy's game, like before fnaf 1) And I am hoping for a game that makes a more coherent 1-6 collection game. Mainly because there are resets in the timeline at 2, 4, 5, 6, and Help Wanted. All of them are taking a story and changing things. So, things get paved over, get changed heavily, and more. It is very much needed.
Bro I was searching a week ago for like an hour searching for Ryethrost, Ryethreest, Ryethrest, Rytrest, etc etc
Very interesting. I like this theory very much. You should send this to MatPat so he can react and maybe think of incorporating it in his theory. So awesome thanks Riley ❤
I literally said it would be rye doze when you first announced it lol
you ain't slick I see that Freddy and Bonnie sticky note in the back
I just thought of sumthin...
What if fall fest isnt a fazbear sanctioned event but rather where william and henry became famous for thier animatronic design and ideas, which led them to create the pizzeria and diner.
An overlooked timeline detail is that in UCN, it's specifically Withered Chica that states she was the first
This combined with the implication that the withered animatronics are completely different models from the original 5 means that Susie isn't required to have been the first MCI victim to be killed
“I need to get sick more often, Jesus Christ!” -Ryetoast 2024
Rye sounds like Keith David when he sings
Good lord, that cat is huge! ❤❤❤