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- Despite being thrown into the public eye for most of her marriage to a country music star, Johnny Cash's first wife was all but forgotten by Hollywood. But in a new documentary available for a limited time on Amazon, her daughters set the record straight. "My Darling Vivian" filmmakers Matt Riddlehoover and Dustin Tittle (the grandson of Johnny Cash) tell CBSN's Reena Ninan the untold story of Vivian Liberto.
I watched the documentary. My heart broke when at Johnny Cash's tribute, nothing was mentioned about Vivian. She sat in the audience listening to people share their fond memories of Johnny and his devotion to June. At that moment, Vivian was a mere audience member. How does one get erased from history? This is how.
Her Son-in-law actually dedicated a song to her, mentioning her and that part was cut from the program. It was so very sad and heartbreaking. Shame on those producers/directors.
The same way we’ve always gotten erased honey
I was sick when I saw that special. Viv was a wonderful woman and mother how dare them glorify June.
@@RONJAE212003exactly! They will never understand how it feels to see plantations as tourists attractions
And even in this interview they were claiming that she was Italian. People knew she was part black. I'm glad that the truth came out this year in the Gates interview
Good for them reclaiming their grandmother’s legacy.
That’s a good way of putting it.
Vivian Liberto Cash Distin Was one of the most amazing examples of matriarchal America. There was a whole era of women that raised families and we’re homemakers and active in their churches who were so powerful and it’s just an iconography that no longer exists. Especially Sicilian Italian matriarchs it’s a very unique part of 20th century history you don’t hear much about. She’s the personification of a Sicilian American. Just amazing
Agreed
What legacy?
Being an ex wife of a celebrity
The fact she was totally ignored at his tribute show, and the song dedicated to her cut out of the broadcast? I’m floored.
Because they knew she was black ☕️🫖……
Finally!!! Someone giving this woman the credit she deserves
You are sooo right!!! She was maligned in the movie, and the actress looked nothing like her either.
That movie was stupid I didn't like it
No kidding. Walk the line made her look like a dark character, when she was the exact opposite.
She's a beautiful woman and I've never heard about her. It's good they did this to get the truth out there. I cant imagine how hard that relationship was on her. Sadness, loneliness, and despair probably.
You are right
How are you doing beautiful
So you didn't see the movie? Walk the line?
@@harleyhendrix8467 yes the lies they told🤷 lmoa
Please 🙄 Our Grandparents were still Sharecropping while this Princess.. Poor her.
Vivian was so stunning and held herself with such class thank you for showing us her💕
Such a gorgeous black and Italian woman...
I always despised the fact they could make a movie about the love affair of Johnny Cash and June with absolutely no regard for the first wife. My heart broke for her while watching the movie and I held so much disdain for Johnny and June for the fact they could do that to her. The world was so obsessed with Johnny and June as a couple and I found it morally repulsive. It was sooo sad.
Agree. Glorifying adultery.
Funny how nobody says that about Junes ex husband
I love this. I loved Johnny Cash's music, but never respected him as a man. You can't preach the word of God and do this to your wife. Vivienne was breathtaking and obviously a true lady.
RIDICULOUS,,,,OJ SIMPSON WAS LOVED BY SO MANY ,VERY HANDSOME MAN,,,BUT THAT DIDNT MAKE HIM A GOOD MAN,,,HE IS A MURDERER ,,TO LOOK AT SOMEONE YOU DONT KNOW AND SAY OHH THATS OBVIOUSLY A TRUE LADY ,,I READ ONE DAUGHTER WASNT JOHNNYS MAYBE THAT CAUSED THE DIVORCE,,,,🙄🤔
You're a hypocrtite. Why don't you tell the world about the skeletons in your closet.
I agree. June (twice married before cash)was an adulterer as well as Cash. They put that beautiful, classy lady through pure hell
he probably never had that relationship with God or he would not treated vivian like he did and the kids!! people can preach the Word but not really mean in in their hearts.. it was all a game to him and june.. she knew he was a married man with kids and she didnt care. from what i heard vivian said she told her i am going to get your husband and she did. quite sad what she did to vivian the both of them
Like all the priests that molested kids. Some of the worst people in the world say they have god on their side
I remember her from the movie and it was a brutal betrayal when actually Johnny was the messed up one in that relationship. She was very beautiful. Good for you defending your mom ❤️
Yes! That always always always bothered me in that movie.
Vivian was his grandmother*
@@hellobecky84 He has his grandmother's nose and eyes.
@@shirleypena4133 yep, I can totally see the resemblance
Not sure what movie you were watching, but he was clearly portrayed as the one who messed up the marriage - putting work before family, drug use, cheating. The movie was based on his autobiography, and both the book and the movie were very clear about these things.
There’s always so much to a woman’s story, especially the first wife of a man. So heart-breaking 💔
So glad her story is told and remembered by her family.❤️
Vivian was a beautiful person inside and outside. God bless her family.
4 Beautiful girls ,loved listening to all of them.beautiful memories...
It's never too late to give a person their flowers Thank you so much for this documentary I cried so much what a strong courageous woman
My God, Vivian is STUNNING!
That's a mixed race black woman. I come from a mixed race family I know a biracial black woman when I see one. Maybe the pressure of it all caused the marriage to fail and for him to choose a white woman. Which would explain why she is shown in such a negative light and June shown to be an angel although she was Sleeping with a married man.
Absolutely I don't see that her race was' misperceived' and that she looked dark in certain pictures. I see a Black woman, period and it sounds like maybe someone in that era wasn't telling the truth.
@@tonyapendleton7467 I agree
yes carter slept with a married man. it was wrong because vivian loved him!!!!
You've never been to southern Italy then. My grandfather could have passed as biracial or latino. The man had a fro in the 70s. Just search "iron eyes cody". He was a sicilian who posed as a native American. There are a wide range of skin complications in Italy and in the Mediterranean surrounding countries.
@@UnburdenedByWhatHasBeen Roseanne Cash had DNA testing done on a TV program which confirmed Vivian was in fact mixed race. So this is not solely a woman of darker pigmented Italian ancestry.
She was breathtaking. R.I.P Vivian
Even a blind man could see that Vivian had black ancestry you could even see it in her grandson with the blue shirt . I think later it was proven that Vivian’s mother had black ancestry. It’s possible her own mother may have “passed” herself as white. Vivian deserves for her story to be told on the big screen.
Facts super black
I agree the daughter was on finder your roots and behold bcz of her mother she has DNA ties to Angela Basset. That was during a time when mixed or light skinned black people would pass as something other than what you really were sadly. it would be nice if her story was told
Another black person can recognize another black person. This “Italian” crap, come on now. The grandson’s black features are easily seen
I agree 1000%.
Italian 😂😂😂 noooo❤❤
Vivian was stunningly beautiful! A very strong woman who suffered pain n heartbreak!
I actually don’t think Vivian was portrayed badly in Walk the Line … I felt an extraordinary amount of sympathy for her in the film.
Also in the actual photos she’s very beautiful.
I don't think that she was portrayed badly either. I just was mad at how Johnny treated her.
She was mad at his career and always had something to say in that movie. She also told him not to talk about his tours or work when he came home as if he had no one to talk to. She looked down on him at times and I agree with her when she told June to stay away from her children
Vivian is Absolutely BEAUTIFUL!!!
As much as I love Johnny Cash, he did her so wrong. Happy that her grandchildren are telling her story. She was an absolutely stunning woman
How did he do her wrong? He was an addict. He had a disease. That makes you act in a way you normally wouldn't. He fell out of love with her. She wanted him at all costs. He wanted June Carter at all costs and June wanted Johnny at all costs. It is best they part and Vivian find someone else that will love her. I am sure Johnny Cash did not abandon her financially.
@@donnaleeclubb119 june and cash always portrayed as the couples goals while in reality they both horrible. i heard that cash used to chet on her good for her maybe that's karma. vivian deserve better
@@donnaleeclubb119
Did you watch the movie, he cheated and made it seem like he did nothing wrong.
@@haitiansouljadex3186 They are portrayed that way because many people believe that if June hadn't come along, he would have died. He has credited her with saving his life and being the one person responsible for him being alive as long as he was. His band mate said she was the hero in any story you write about Johnny Cash. It's not celebrated for the adultery, but the fact that she was a positive influence. We know what they did was wrong, but it doesn't change the fact that she helped him fight his demons, addictions, and led him back to God throughout their marriage.
@@donnaleeclubb119 she supported Johnny and was never jealous of his success. Then, he decided to go after a childhood crush. I lost a lot of respect for him.
I read the book "I walked the line" My life with Johnny Cash...and felt nothing but sympathy for Vivian she was done wrong and endured so much living with and without Johnny. I was not happy to read how June went after Johnny knowing he was married...nor how Johnny abandoned his family. I have much respect for Vivian and my heart broke for her having to endure so much heartache. Their kids had to have suffered too.
It was Johnny that pursued June, not the other way around. He kept at it until he succeeded.
@@sergeantmasson3669 Well I disagree. Yes, he went after her as well...but she pursued him intentionally knowing he was a married man...and did not care how Vivian or the girl's felt. And she did not get him off drugs...she became a drug addict too.
@@MsCNail-fe1sj Allegations, lacking proof, are invalid.
@@MsCNail-fe1sj yet you have no proof to support your claim..The movie certainly doesn't show that June went after Johnny..She herself was married at the time..
@@thepamela050 Proof was I read Vivian's book and she asked June to back off...and June did not. OK?
She was Italian and black. Don’t get it twisted. This was denial at the time from her POV, all in concerns for their kids safety, cash and then hers, for obvious reasons due to racial tensions. She sacrificed a lot.
Her black genes are very strong! We as black folk knows a black person when we see one!
@@lauramorgan2928
Why is it so hard to think that Johnny Cash was In love with a black woman, white man been sleeping with black women every since America was
And They justified it by saying you couldn’t merry her
Some white males actually sent her up north so she would be safe with his white children
She was not black if she didn’t claim it. Stop claiming people who don’t want to be claimed by blacks. Vivian lived until 2005 so had ample time to tell the world and her grandkids what race she is.
@@meganm.4291
It’s not that she didn’t claim it
the benefits all went to White and she wanted the benefit that went to whits
@@meganm.4291 Not necessarily. People denied being Black all the time. It's called racial passing. They would move where no one would know them and completely break ties with their family. People did it because there were benefits to being White. Keep in mind, it could be very dangerous for the Black person if someone found out they were passing. Also, it's possible Vivian didn't know. At any rate, it's sad. She was a beautiful woman.
She was an honorable woman. She did what real women and men do she walked as a woman of decency, courage and maturity.
I'm so happy to see that these men made a point to set the story straight!
It was a lovely documentary. She was a beautiful woman who got the raw end of the deal.
I was always interested in knowing who she was and how she handled losing her husband to the game .
I think Ginnifer Goodwin is a great actress and I am a fan of most of her work, but clearly, her portrayal of Vivian wasn't accurate in 'Walk the Line'. It wasn't her fault though. The fault lies with the writers.
Maybe part of the fault was with the casting.
I doubt Ginnifer went into the film with a preconceived idea of how Vivian really was as a person. Her job was to interpret the script given to her and follow the directions set forth by the production team. She was getting paid to be an ACTRESS, not a historian. 90% of what you see on film is determined by the director because he's the one who calls "CUT!", not the actors. Put your blame somewhere other than Ginnifer and don't make her your personal scapegoat.
It is the viewer that villainized vivian-not goodwins portrayal. It is how the VIEWER saw things. When i watched it, i saw her as a strong woman who wanted the best for her family and was betrayed at every turn.
I think Goodwin have a sympathetic portrayal of Viv. I never saw her as controlling or at fault in any way, shape or form. She was a casualty of John’s addiction and choices.
@@tori2dles i agree.
Loosing a husband is already hard and its embarrassing to deal with that under the spotlight for everyone to see. Vivian suffered a lot but overcame it. Whether or not Walk the Line was accurate, Ginnifer did a profound job of playing the wife who was doing her best to hold her family together, and had every right to hold her husband accountable for his (at best) detached behaviour.
My Darling Vivian was such a eye opening doc. My heart broke for her. Her look was exotic and beautiful. She really got a bad deal. I now hate the “ walk the line” movie. How dare they!
hollywood likes to twists alot of things they have no idea the real story so they make it look more realistic
Roseanne Cash was always my fav singer so I did know about her mom..Vivian was beautiful and classy!!A Real Lady!!🌹💜
Real lady, I like that word
Roseanne is beautiful like her mom, those gorgeous eyes! I love Roseanne's music too. Too bad her marriage to Rodney Crowell didn't last, what a talented and attractive couple they were.
Vivian Liberto was a stunning woman.
What MSM did to her was so very wrong. She deserved none of that at all. Vivian had a huge integrity level and never liked being the center of attention.
Spanish black or what?
@@mkedmusa9416 She was Italian, German, and Irish. No African heritage at all.
She has African ancestry, just not a lot. Louis Gossett did an ancestry test with Vivian's daughter.
@@Gabster1990 FYI, every human has a very tiny bit of African DNA ancestry because the human species originated in Africa. Vivian Liberto heritage is Italian, German, and Irish.
I never saw Vivian as an awful person in “Walk the Line.” It was evident what was happening to her within the marriage was not on her, but the tornado of John’s rising popularity, drug addiction and growing affection for June.
Especially when one listens to the director’s cut version of “Walk the Line,” they understand that both John and June know they are in the wrong when they begin the affair. The director also talks about John’s love for Vivian and highlights the Elvis performance of the song John wrote for Vivian. He emphasizes John’s selfishness and callousness to Vivian by treating her as though she was nothing at the awards show - pursuing June and displaying public jealousy over her recent marriage to that one race car driver dude
They made her look like she wasn’t supporting his career and silence him about his job when he was home. Also never having time for him because of the kids. It’s free on TH-cam right now.
Vivs second husband was a police officer. Right?
@@raquelb731 check out the documentary about Vivian, it has information like that.
@@raquelb731 Yes!! im glad she found love again to a man who really loved her and the kids
I remember reading snippets from a book that had the love letters between Johnny and Vivian. I was floored because I didn't even know at the time that he had a wife before June. Then I watched Walk the Line and was disgusted by their portrayal of her and the "romance" between Johnny and June. I've never liked that film and I've had a hard time liking anything to do with Johnny Cash after that. I'm so happy to see her story being told by those who knew and loved her. She was absolutely gorgeous. To stand by her husband even as he disrespected her and broke their marriage vows is a strength I don't know I posses but makes me admire her more. What an amazing woman!
Exactly! I liked the movie, but him falling for June annoyed me. She supported him through everything.
Walk The Line was totally unfair to her! Maybe it’s because John Carter Cash helped on the movie and made his mother look like a savior. In reality - she was a drug addict too. And her family used Johnny Cash’s money to fund their lifestyle. Pretty sick doing that to Vivian and her daughters. A woman of God - as June Carter claimed to be - doesn’t steal another woman’s husband.. period.
Aman!!!LOL....
Sounds like you are being unfair to June. Johnny cash had many affairs before June. You or I don't know how or when it happened,we were not there. And it's unfair to call June Carter a drug addict. You also wasn't there.
That’s right!
@@pamelakneeland3288 June was awful to Vivian.
@@pamelakneeland3288 you are right because he slept around alot .👍
She was absolutely beautiful!
Vivian was absolutely GORGEOUS!!!!
Differs from the movie version. HOLLYWOOD. tall tales.
I am glad they are speaking up about their grandmother legacy. There are so many hidden untruths.
A recent episode of Finding Your Roots revealed that Vivian and Johnny had Black African American ancestors.
Fairly obvious to see when looking at her . She was a really beautiful woman .
That's what I thought when I looked at her that maybe she was mixed with Black American ancestry.
It's very obvious she had a black ancestors!
@@muurisoras5878 How is it obvious? I mean that sincerely.
@@robyndismon394 her looks can tell
She was more than just Italian.
I enjoyed the documentary of My Darling Vivian. Walk the Line is still a great film, but this made me look at a different perspective. It also shows a side to June of how insensitive she was towards Vivian, which the film in vice-versa shows her as "the hero" and they were both actually important in Cash's life in different ways. Good for Vivian's daughters that they got to speak the truth against Hollywood's portrayal.
I agree. I think both women loved him at different times and he was a different man for both women. One woman he loved and married far too young. The other he married when he matured and fought his demons.
@@donnaleeclubb119 That was not far too young especially for back then in those times. She was very mature. *_It was Drugs & Fame that were the problem, not age._*
I can't wait to see this!
I've wanted to know her story since 2005 when Walk the line came out!
I’ve always looked down on June. Yes Johnny made the choice to cheat and leave but being a willing other woman to a man with a family is totally heartless. My dad left our family for another woman and it destroyed everyone. They painted his and June’s relationship as a fairy tale and knowing what we went through I knew that was far from the truth. I actually despised June while watching the movie.
June is pretty talentless too. Her voice is like nails on a chalk board. She’s no hero.
@@candyjohnson3302 truthfully I’ve never paid any mind to her because of my opinion of her. I wasn’t familiar with her until the movie and still didn’t bother to listen to her music with Johnny or anything from her.
As if you were there and know them personally...After June died Johnny only lived 4 more months and in his own words she was there for him during his most difficult time of his life while he battled drug addiction..It takes two to tango..In case you missed it Vivian didn't want that type of life, the life of an entertainer..Some times marriages don't work out and Johnny didn't leave Vivian for June..
Yes Mr. Cash was just as responsible. All I remember
and read June approached
Vivian point blank to her face and told her she was going to take John. Like it
or not.
That ended for me with both of them.
@@candyjohnson3302 Just like you but she was better then you ever will be!!
I am always appreciative when corrections are made to a false historical narrative. I enjoy the work of all the actors who played in this movie but it is disappointing that they either didn't take the time to get it right or they purposely made a production based on lies for the sake of drama. Feminism doesn't mean tearing one woman down to build another one up. Glad Vivian's story is being told by people who loved her and knew her well.
I thought Viv was a very sympathetic figure in “Walk the Line.” It was all on John and Viv was doing all she could to keep her sanity. I loved Gin Goodwin’s portrayal of her. She was a lovely woman trying to walk through a hurricane named John Cash.
Johnny Cash's son was behind the awful portrayal of Vivian.
So, after watching this documentary my heart is extremely broken for Vivian. She suffered a heart break that lasted the duration of her life. She didn't deserve the treatment she got. The never ending heartbreak she endured caused her to make a decision that inflicted that same heartbreak on another innocent woman. It seems she lived in a constant state of despair but tried to push it deep, deep down. It just goes to show how destructive a selfish mentality is. I can't say this enough but men need to be held accountable for these types of actions. There is no way that his "love" with June should have been celebrated the way that it was. What a strong woman Vivian truly was. I take great pleasure in knowing she's earned her place in heaven now.
Edit: All love stories are not created equally. To celebrate the "love story" of a married man and his MISTRESS is morally repulsive! And the way EVERYONE tried to write Vivian out was absolutely insane. Imagine giving your everything to a man, having his babies, sticking with him through the tough times, trusting him with everything and then one day he stops loving you and starts chasing someone else?? He was so wrapped up in his own happiness that he basically had no part in raising his 4 children that were at home! June taunted Vivian all because she wanted Jhonny to herself. A man SHE KNEW BEFOREHAND WAS MARRIED! Any woman or man defending that type of behavior must have been a mistress themselves and gets zero respect from me. So please, keep those growing apart comments to yourself. When you grow apart and decide not to work on the relationship: GET A DIVORCE!! PREFERABLY before you get involved with someone else. #selfishandselfcentered
Why shouldn't his love for June Carter have been celebrated? They went about it wrong with cheating, but Johnny Cash loved June Carter. Johnny and Vivian's marriage was doomed. He grew apart from her and did not love her anymore. It happens all of the time. She may have loved him until the day she died, but it was not the same for him. He loved June like that. I don't think it had anything to do with her being black or mixed or whatever. He had eyes. Her being dark did not seem to bother him. He still was a young boy who fell in love with her. What happened to them happens to many young couples.
@@donnaleeclubb119 I said what I said! My opinion won't changed and I don't argue it either. Have a good day.
I agree. I don't think a relationship born out of infidelity should be celebrated, no matter how strong it is or how hard the relationship was that was left. The fact that society celebrates it shows how morally depraved society is.
D Jackson Well said 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@@oneroyalbird amen
In Tennessee, owning a shotgun to take care of critters is like keeping milk in your refrigerator for cereal. You need it & use it regularly! Can’t wait to see this documentary
I just finished watching this doc and it was truly sad! I'm very disappointed that Johnny left his family the way he did and had an affair! I wish he never was discovered by Hollywood. I bet if he never moved to Cali - the entire family would've been fine! Just shows that choices DO have consequences! Truly Vivian loved this man so deeply. I'm so grateful that their daughters came forward! Lastly, the Nashville ceremony was garbage! How dare they EXCLUDE HER!!!!!! UGH!!!!
anyways! Viviane you made it! Your story was truly heard and I will forever appreciate that!
I love how they didnt even address the question asked about her ethnicity. That woman is black--maybe mixed race w/black but definitely black. Even the grandchild looks like a black man right now and in his younger photo. They are passers.
i thought the same!
Yeah her 23 and Me is probably very interesting. Light skin people with African blood would “pass” to avoid racism back then. When they were her complexion they’d say they were Latin or Italian. You wouldn’t be treated as good as passing for white but it was a lot than the treatment blacks people got…
You’re so jealous!
@@superamanda Jealous of? Just curious.
@@michellehubbard8865 lol right I read it like wow that took a turn! Didn’t expect that comment
Now they have to re-make Walk the Line lol
I have loved this movie but knowing this about June has poisoned it a bit for me, sadly. I'm on a quest to help get justice for Vivian. What happened to her is just so wrong; she suffered so much. It's particularly tragic that in the last years of her life she had to worry about her portrayal in Walk the Line (with reason,it turned out). It's hard to understand why the family let it happen. It casts a bad light
@@laurawilloughby4000 Vivian’s daughters had no choice on that film. It was Johnny Cash‘s son who created the film.
I hate walk the line but I don’t see what would be worthy of a remake? Are they going to spend a side plot about how people mistakenly thought Vivian was black? That’s not what she would’ve wanted I think she would’ve just liked to of been left out of whatever film they created involving June entirely
@@superamanda no mistake she was black.
@@mspinkytee No. She wasn’t. Her family is really clear she wasn’t and she was really clear she wasn’t. Let people be who they are. Not what you want them to be to fit some woke one drop agenda.
If you looked at the photo of Johnny and Vivian and thought WOW, she's beautiful. It's not about Ethnicity to you. On the other hand, if the color/hue of Vivian's skin was your first thought... 🤷♀️ BTW, we ALL are members of the exact same race. Our problems arise when we get hung up on the Hue in human. ✌🏻✌🏿✌🏼✌
YES! Well said.
I haven’t watched the documentary yet, I just noticed how stunning and beautiful Vivian was
I don't see it. I don't see it in June Carter either. One is salt, the other pepper. LOL. They both are not that good looking IMO.
This is a very very good interview; well done folks. I certainly would like to see the documentary. So very interesting.
I new they was more to the story there is always two sides to a story I want to see this one. Bless you Vivian....
I’ll say what I do about all infidelity: when a spouse cheats, that’s who deserves the primary blame and the emotions that go along with it. Does the other man or woman share some blame? Certainly. But for me, I wasn’t married to the woman who chose to sleep with my husband. Yes it was wrong that she knew he was married and had children at home. But I didn’t have a relationship with her so she didn’t betray me. My husband did. He shattered our family and abandoned our 4 children in the process. And in my case he did so the same week I learned I had stage 3 ovarian cancer. The fact she knew I had cancer reflected poorly on her character, but again, she was not my concern. I leave her to karma. That there was another, random woman involved was of little concern to me because she could’ve been anyone. And would have been someone else most likely. The old adage is true - if they’ll cheat with you, they’ll cheat on you.
Words of wisdom from a place of knowing. I pray you are well ❤️🩹
Bless your heart baby.... I hope you heal and get better.. I hope you come back strong and yes ma'am he will cheat on her as well.
I agree 100%.
A woman who knowingly engages in an extramarital affair with a married man shares the shame of being an adulterer too. I have never felt any sort of sympathy for June Carter, especially after finding out that Johnny had cheated on her for years. You reap what you sow.
@@misscleo378 A single woman sleeping with a married man is a loser and gross but she is not an adulterer.
About time! It is well done! Always had much thought for her.
Roseann's episode on Finding Your Roots and Vivian was of African decent.
TRUTH BE TOLD ALL HUMAN RACE ARE FROM AFRICAN DECENT.
@@rashad3596 true. But she has very recent African ancestry. You can clearly see it
@@aimjbtnh3 absolutely; and she was beautiful as well.
I hate how preoccupied Americans are with race... You're obsessed on seperating each other just as much as you were in the 1950s, except signs and fences have now made way for labels and definitions. Black and white America you're so alike with your un healthy relationship and ignorance regarding race. It seems that this is one form of slavery you'll never experience emancipation from. Very sad really.
No she wasn't. ON that episode, it was determined that she is 96% European. People need to stop using the One Drop Rule in this era. It's actually insulting to us as African Americans as if any percentage of African DNA means that you can't be "pureblooded" European. She was a white woman with some distant African Ancestry like many in the South.
Final thoughts:
The day we can accept that our heroes are sometimes the villains. Will be the day, truth and justice become possible.
Until then...
Huh!?
She was stunning 😍 omg
777...agape...eros
I don't think "Walk the Line" makes Vivian look bad. It just showed that Johnny Cash fell hard for June Carter, and when she refused him he turned to drugs. I would be angry if my husband waa interested in another woman. That doesn't make her bad.
Also, I think it highlighted Johnny Cash's traumatic childhood and how it echoed through his life. It certainly painted his dad as the bad guy.
Johnny was doing drugs LOOOOOOOOOONG before he met June. Remember, way back in the 40s and 50s, speed was considered safe and it was given to military personnel to help them pull extra shifts or to help actors lose weight, or help give that extra pep to musicians who literally had to drive overnight, cross-country, from one gig to another and be ready to perform. It really wasn't until the 70s that the side-effects of speed were publicly known.
@@katemaloney4296 Yes, but in the film he starts using again and becomes addicted because he falls for June and she refuses him. This video is about the protrayal of Vivien in the movie as being the bad guy. And I am saying, not really.
It is bad to have an affair with a married man, doubly bad when you are also married!
I agree. I thought Viv was such a sympathetic character who kept trying to keep her family together. She was devoted and really loved John.
Sorry, but it wasn't just the picture looking darker; it's the features. The first time I saw her picture I knew she was Black. I just don't get why the interviewer would try to erase that? She was Black and Italian. It's 2021, plenty of people are mixed.
But she wasn’t. Not on 1/32 black ancestry. And it’s disrespecting her racial narrative to re-classify her as something else after she’s deceased. She was really clearly clear about how she racially identified she was proud to be Sicilian why are you trying to rob her of that? Because you think Johnny Cash is cool? Because there’s plenty of very not cool famous people walking around black ancestry that I don’t see people going nuts for.
777
It's obvious Vivian had some African ancestry.
I am so happy you shared Vivian's story with us. Thank you.
I was heart broken for vivian whenever cash left her for carter. thats so wrong and he left his kids too how sad I never liked him or carter much afterwards
Wait you were alive and got to experience it happening in real time?
@@alohaXamanda does she have to be alive in that time to feel sorry for her?🙄stupid question!smh
I don't think he left his kids. They started to get along again a few years after the divorce.
My dad hated Jonny Cash guys when a Jonny cash song came on the radio he turn it off He could not stand any thing about Jonny Cast
@@jerryshepherd1645 It's CASH not Cast...Well your dad must hate lots of people cause lots of people get divorced..Hate is such a strong word for someone who did nothing to you personally..
did she just say Vivian was Italian? lol her daughter just did
the show, finding your roots and Vivian is was hiding the fact, that she was of mixed-race heritage, and they also found out her family was related to actress Angela Bassett
Her family was from Sicily almost all Mediterranean’s have some African blood it’s not unusual but she was Italian and raised Italian
Mixed-race? She was part alien?!
That’s not unique. Seems like she was trying to pass.
Italy is not far from North Africa!
Vivian is very pretty, but I think her family, her parents and her were passing. She looks black to me. It was more than likely a way for them to navigate the world without prejudice.
She may have had Italian in her family tree.... but she was black, African American
Wow, she was extremely beautiful. I never knew this story. I learned something today .
She was just absolutely beautiful. I'm glad her story is being told and her light is shining.
She was also clearly a mixed with black woman but I guess no one want to have that conversation
Really strange the way it was jumped over with the Journalist just saying she was Italian. Meanwhile Roseanne Cash was on Finding Their Roots and learned she is related to Angela Bassett............
Dustin looks mixed himself.....a black and white photo can't make a white person look black if their not lol. Photos don't lie. smh The Trailer Photo of Vivian Liberto looks a little like Rosario Dawson.
She looks like me and I'm Italian and Black!
@@Littlething41 I agree totally
@@mascara1777 exactly she and her grandson (especially the picture of him as a boy) look JUST like my Italian and black cousins). It’s okay all people are important and valued in the sight of God, and the human race is made in the image of God. I wish if everyone knew this they would embrace the beauty of being multicultural
Vivian was a black woman passing for Italian. And I'm sure it was due to the time and era and Johnny and her probably felt best that she just say she's Italian, or something close to believable. Their daughter Roseanne and Johnny knew and said that she was black later in life. The interviewer Talking about she was always portrayed in pictures as much darker, duh. 😂 Because she was darker.
Her parents were Sicilians. The four daughters are a blend of Cash and Vivian. Black coarse hair and pigment is dominant in most cases, but the girls show none of it and neither does she. Also, Sicily is in the southern region of Mediterranean influx. I personally know people who look white and are actually of black parents. What article did you read where it states she is black? Thanks.
@@cyng8198 ... I didn't read an article. I saw their daughter Roxanne who looks a lot like her mother, on a show about 20 or so years ago and they asked her about it. And in the South, it was a known secret that many knew of.
@@jackiedoright8313 Thanks for responding! Do you remember what Roxanne said about it?
I was young and wasn't really paying a lot of attention, which is why I didn't say what she had stated in a previous message to you, but my aunt and her friend were watching it and they were talking about it. But everyone in the south knew and whispered about her being Black. Johnny Cash knew, they just kept it quiet because of where they were, in the south! Everyone knew it eventually which is probably why he left her for June Carter-- to save his career and to protect Vivian and keep the spotlight off of all of them.
@@rashad3596 ...Good job! 👍 I know my people when I see them. I don't care how much they try to hide. Vivian's features are a very strong representation of West African ancestry. And when people in the South whisper, there is usually truth to it. Trust. The south is full of secrets, ghosts, and unbelievable and Untold stories.😩😪
(Side note: I hate it when they refer to slaves as African-Americans! Just say African slaves or Africans. Because it wasn't nothing American about the way they were treated during that time and barely during this time!)
Him and June did her dirty - and she was STUNNING, drop dead gorgeous !!
He wasn’t loyal to Vivian but who knows if he was loyal to June when men are away they sometimes tend to play it happens to famous and not famous Just saying
But women are perfect and never have affairs? Outrageous stop making myths about women it’s incredibly unhealthy
@@CariMachet thats another subject, June might very well have had affairs but I wish Johnny had so that June got to taste her own medicine! I really really wish he had many affairs while beeing married to June!
@@mrsTraveller64 wow wishing that on someone you don't even know..Just so you know Johnny did cheat on June with her own sister..So I hope that makes your day..
Can you probably turn the drugs because he was hiding his wife for fortune and fame how horrible, and she loved him enough to let him do it
Vivian was a very gorgeous woman as well as his second wife, im sure he loved them both in different ways
No one, and I mean no one, should have to be put through so much crap, because they have African ancestry. Johnny loved Vivian, and that is that! I’m so sick and tired of American Racism!
Me too !
Absolutely appalling aspect of America.
It’s very sad how society make us so focus on race.
@@gigirf3022 This was the 1950s. It would never happen today.
@@martiwaterman1437, believe me: it's all over the planet.
Appreciate all the history told to all society!!!Amazing!!!
Having a bout of insomnia tonight and going down a TH-cam rabbit hole starting with a Roseanne Cash video from the 1980's. It seems that all of Jonny Cash's progeny are intelligent, caring, and articulate people. That's a legacy he left behind that's just as important as his music and lyrics.
That was their moms doing
Truly wonderful to vindicate this woman who was portrayed so negatively in the movie. This is a shame and these two young men should be commended.
I remember that country song, I want a love like Johnny and June. Back then, I really liked it because i didn't know the real story behind it and growing up my mon would talk about watching Johnny Cash making appearances on TV with June and their son Johnny Jr. And how the audience loved seeing little Johnny. But a few years back I saw Vivian's book at Walmart and bought it and read It and I was really surprised how different her story was compared to the ones I heard most my life. Now as an adult, watching I walk the Line makes me realize how messed up and toxic Johnny and June's relationship was. So for someone to sing, I want a love like Johnny and June. Is basically encouraging people that it's ok to stay in toxic relationships and Ok to cheat and condone abusive behavior.
What's the name of the book? I want to buy it!
So interesting. I did not know about this part of the Cash story.
I wonder why.....😏🤔
@@BixbyLBC I was raised listening to old school country music. I always thought June Carter Cash was his only wife. Did not know his children were from a previous marriage.
BixbyLBC , we know why.
She was gorgeous! Reminds me of Sophia.
Yes she has that mysterious Italian or latino look about her!
She looks a lot like Sophia Loren and Gina LaLolo
...i though similar.
@@beautifulkindness5840 Biracial black?! I definitely see it.
hmmm she said she was Italian but I also see a Black woman its in her hair and her over all look. In order to tell Vivian's story u hv to b totally honest. That woman is not jus Italian, I know another Black person when I see them.
No doubt she was a nice good woman
But we don't follow Johnny Cash for his love life but for his music.
June was his life and wor parter, and working creative partnership beat anything and everything.
That was their true magic.
Hey, I’m Italian. I was born in America. I had my DNA done. I have Greek, Turkish, other Middle Eastern and North African DNA. You couldn’t marry your sister or cousin so men traveled (fishermen for example), and while working looked for wives. On the other side of the mediterranean from the bottom of Italy, and in this woman’s case Sicily, is north Africa! Therefore you can see how you could have a grandmother of African descent. It’s not that big a deal. Unfortunately this woman was so exotic looking that Southerners started rumors and really drove her into the ground. That is a whole other, horrible, subject.
She was mostly Sicilian!
Love to all!
Don... her great great grandma was black... mostly Sicilian...ok...how...
June was an addict as well and gave Johnny drugs, so I don’t know why they’re making her some hero
This woman was clearly passing as white and who could blame her for doing so in racist America. I'm sure Johnny knew that she was bi-racial but, back then, if you had one pin drop of black blood you were viewed as 100% black. She is one beautiful woman that's for sure.
She look like a light black person to idk how she was passing as white
GLW
Her dad was fully Italian, her mom was German, Irish, and AA lineage.
Where are you solely getting “black” from? She wasn’t passing she was a white woman. You can look at her and tell she’s Italian. Why do AA always try to force someone to be black? The one drop “rule” was stupid then as it is stupid now. Opinion has nothing to do with the biology of race. She is white
@@Igbobabexoxo she clearly looks black look at her color pictures, it has nothing to do with the one drop rule she looks black.
@@arrynwilliams2842 I agree that she looks like a light skinned black woman but it was easier to pass back in those days. Due to segregation, black people weren't mingling with whites in large numbers during this period so white people really weren't around blacks of any complexion as they are today. Plus being married to Johnny Cash made it easy for people to believe she was Italian. Most people, even today, can not imagine Cash being married to a woman of color. J. Edgar Hoover passed for white too during this same time period. All the rumors of him being black are true too. Look at pictures of J Edgar now and it's clear that he is a very light skinned black man - very similar to photos of Vivian. Now we have advanced DNA testing from living relatives that confirms what so many felt they had to hide due to America's racism.
@@glw5166 u lien J Edgar Hoover was black 🤭
I never knew this lol . Always thought June, June, June. WOW
Thank you for your story,l will read the book soon as I find it
Wow. Yes. There was a love story with vivian too. He wrote her letters with so much love, just as he did june later.
Mad respect for this single mom who loved her husband even after. How hard it must've been to have been tossed aside and see his love affair in her face all over the world.
I too, was married to a musician and ended in divorce and a single mom.
Glad her story is out there.
Finally. I always wanted to know the story about Vivien.
Johnny cash was great when appeared on one episode of television series 📽🕵️♂️ lieutenant Colombo
That true
I still remember the last line from Columbo. Anyone who can sing like that can't be all bad.
She was passing & she may not of known it many families did this Inc!using mine
mo, denying African ancestry is so common.
There’s absolutely no way she was passing. Not in 1 million years. There was a biracial great great grandmother 75 years before she was born and then everybody on that one ancestral line married white. Her mother was a white woman and so was her Nonnas.
@@superamanda are you related to them you seem to know a lot
@@momolovestar4207 Hello, no I’m not related! I have a very similar narrative though and I’ve been following this for a few years. It’s just an interesting part of American history.
@@superamandavery interesting I thought it was just my family but it is many families ,mine is from New Orleans, Racism is a sickness that hurts many people, I really don't feel White or Black but i know I am not white if that makes sense
That’s a melanated woman
So are they going to admit she was half black??? I can see some black in the grandson on the left.....
Nope, they only admit to her being Italian 🙄
But come on look at her!!
Lol dont look like it
Vivian was most definitely Blackish. It's undeniable.
Really? I was thinking the picture was a little dark? 😊
Who cares!
His first wife sure was a beautiful lady 🥰 June was beautiful too, but his first wife looks exotic ❤
It beautiful everyone had their own relationships with each other with dignity explained so well
Since I was a kid I’ve always been a fan of Johnny Cash music. My grandpa was from Texas and a huge country music fan. Jonny Cash was a favorite of his.
It’s unfortunate the interviewer NEGLECTED to mention that Vivian was also part Black. But made the interviewer was sure to state a misnomer, that she was just Italian. 😞
At this point none of it matters but to the Cash family….
However, when a report is made with all of the resources available to get the facts right; especially with this movie coming out, “is to get the facts right…”
It’s difficult not to see this as intentional misleading information.
She was Sicilian....they are very dark...like Sophia Loren and Annette Funicello.
She has african American blood in her, and we as black people see tat quite clearly. Why white people so bother.
The DNA test Roseanne Cash did was a year after this and it revealed that Vivian was basically 1/32 or 3% black.
She looked the way she did because she was 50% Sicilian and when you look at pictures of Vivian’s parents they both look white/European. Vivian simply was born a truly stunning and unique beauty. Much like many supermodels today who don’t look exactly like their parents for one reason or another. Don’t see the big deal.
She wasn't culturally or largely ethnically black. Having a distant black ancestor you never knew aint quite the same thing
The Tuskegee airmen was in Italy in the 1930s a lot of them didn't not return to America they stayed in Italy.... many Mixed children was made....go watch the videos the Italians was very grateful to the military
PBS Finding Your Roots did a segment on Johnny Cash's daughter doing her DNA. It was fascinating.
They determined Vivian did indeed have an African American ancestor. A 3x great grandmother.
@@laurawilloughby4000 Truth be told, most of the most racist white people do, not that they will admit it. A lot of self hatred is tied in with racism.
@@traceeteeter9875 True.
@@traceeteeter9875 When I was young and naive, I thought we should all "mingle" with each other, and.we would all be a beautiful shade of deep beige with wavy hair and green eyes
@@traceeteeter9875 , no. You're throwing that in to cause trouble.
What a beautiful story and a brave beautiful woman!! ❤️
Her genetic composition made her the most beautiful person I've seen. Stunningly beautiful at every phase of her life!