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Fun fact about beedrill: Thank to an oversight, BD was the only pokemon that could poison steel types in gen 2(barring that painting pokemon). Steel type avoided the poison status by being immune to poison moves but there was no code to prevent the status. Twinneedle was, of course, the only non-poison move that poison. So technically, Beedrill had corrosion five gens before Salandit and Salazzle.
@Aqua fn Actually no. Twinneedle could not poison poison types in gen one. Some clever person notice and added an extra rule to prevent this. Then Steel was added and that person must of taken a sick day since the same exception was missing from the new type.
What ruined Megas is having Mega Evolution to good Pokémon like Lucario, Salamence, Tyranitar, Garchomp, and the list goes on... It should exist only to underused/bottom tier Pokémon like Lumineon, Maractus, Delibird, Beeheeyen, Vespiqueen, Mr Mime, Basculin, Seviper and many others.
@@pacoramon9468 Pokémon is a really unbalanced game. You need to create inumerous restriction to play it "balanced" like Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, Legendary ban, Mega ban, Gigantamax ban, Item ban
Why I love Beedrill: In the manga, Giovanni faced off against Elite Four Lance’s DRAGONITE with a Beedrill he caught in the Viridian Forest. How sick is that.
@@cober5768 I do the same in FR/LG. He's actually not bad at all considering his move pool. And tbh, I even used it vs Brock just to see if I could. I could. Once he was set up with harden against geodude, his onix was np as long as it didn't crit. And even if it did, it wouldn't survive the rest of the team since Brock doesn't have a full restore.
@@FraserSouris Overused is considered the cream of the crop when it comes to non-legendary pokemon. The best of the best. As FSG himself said himself, is says a heck of a lot the people used Bedrill in that environment at all. Every pokemon in OU is supposed to be between great and amazing, that's why it's called overused. As such, saying Bedrill is okay for falling short of it is a bit harsh.
Fraser Souris you’re just wrong here. You can roughly equate the tiers to quality. Uber: superb, OU: Excellent, UU: Good, RU: Mediocre, NU: Bad, PU: Terrible. As a UU mon, Mega Beedril is generally good.
@@oscarzxn4067 Nah, he's a cannon. Beedrill learns a whole bunch of multi-attacking moves and if you use Focus Energy to increase your crit rate you can get 5 crits and take down things you shouldn't.
I've never played pokemon competitively and focus on indie games more now.. And yet here I am watching my tenth episode of "How good was *pokemon name* ACTUALLY?" in a row.. Damn these videos are good.
@Daniel Samolewicz Ah with running a small TH-cam channel, uni studies and a keen interest in overwatch I'll never have the time haha! I'll just watch from the sidelines through videos like this!
Despite the crap and complaints most Pokemon who got Mega's tend to need them due to slipping on the competitive scene. Some even turned weak Pokemon to just straight up broken.
@@Xo-3130 I think megas are one of Game Freak's best ideas. They breathed new life into old Pokemon and introduced an interesting new mechanic to battles. It's a good sign that everyone wants their favorite Pokemon to get a mega. No one says "Dunsparce needs a signature Z-Move."
@@natekite7532 Signature Z-moves are a bit dumb if you ask me. I think just having the type based moves are a good idea. Them, regional variants and Megas are each good additions. (Though a few Pokemon could also use an evolution or two)
Toby They’re good when given to bad stuff like Beedrill and Lopunny, but I hate it when good Pokémon get Megas because they’re popular like Garchomp and Blaziken.
I remember when Beedrill was a Poke Ball Pokemon in Super Smash Brothers. It used to call a swarm of other Beedrill to join it in attacking the fighters in the game
Superior Troodon Decent in UU Gen 1 and 2 Good in Gen 3 UU Usable in UU, but dropped to NU in Gen 4 Good in Gen 5's NU, and has gimmick sets in UU as a second Heracross Regular dropped to NU, where it was decent. Mega was good in OU for Gen 6 Same for Gen 7, except regular fell to PU now
For that one shining moment in Gen VI, Beedrill was tangling with the highest in standard play... Mega Butterfree, anyone? Let's make another early bug's wildest dreams come true!
@@gengarzilla1685 It was six-on-one and Beedrill was worn out after working its ass off! Yes! That's exactly what happened! I'm not exaggerating! YOU'RE EXAGGERATING!
As someone who uses the pokemon I like and think look cool, rather than the stats, I always rep a Beedrill in my squad. Its a freakin' giant hornet with freakin' lances as fists. Though a 3rd stage evolution based on the Great Black Wasp and becoming Bug/Dark would be cool
Against an offensive team, it was good...just kidding. Being weak to Fire, Rock, and Dark means that most Pokèmon will be able to get that guaranteed KO.
You know, I find Gen 1 analysis fascinating. Sure, gen 1 itself isn't that interesting, but how some mons change over time and fall from grace or rise up in the ashes and become somewhat decent or even good depending on the case.
Man, Beedrill is my go-to Mega whenever I play USUM Online; It's really good as either a sweeper or a Toxic Spikes lead. (Just wish I had the time to properly EV it). Honestly my favorite episode of FSG; The tale of Pokemon's Yamcha, in effect. Plus the video quality is stellar, the voiceover is solid as always, and the writing concise but sweet. If this is the first vid of 2019, then *hoo boy* are we in for a good year!
@@elijahtoombs3524 The allegory was moreso DBZ to DBS (Yamcha/Beedrill, after years of mockery due to statistical ineptitude, found new hope through a baseball career/an interesting Mega). Agreed that Yamcha was pretty solid as Goku's first rival (although I'd like to note that even back then he was eventually outclassed by Krillin and Tien).
They should make a game where every past OP gimmick gets brought back and thrown in together. Just a meta with Mega Rayquazas, Snorlaxes going full power with Pulverizing Pancake, Gigantamax Urshifus, and Tera-Electric Shedinjas.
Those are more just a programming error and a mechanic that had to be nerfed due to over-centralization than actively overpowered, one off gimmicks. Maybe the endless weather.
I really like Mega Beedrill. I use it in OU and it has its weaknesses, but overall it's pretty damn great! Unlike in the first five generations... Sad. Anyway, we love so many pokémon even when they're trash in competitive. Keep up the good work!
Yes! Thank you! A Shiny Beedrill was the first Shiny I didn't try to chase after but encountered randomly and ever since it's my favorite, this was a cool video to see how the poor bug stacked up.
Beedrill is a good example of a Mega done right. Used to revitalize a Pokemon that, as far as popularity and usage, was pretty much dead, and done so effectively. I would love to see others of its kind receive a similar buff.
Truthfully, Pinsir was another one of those Pokemon that was never really any good until it got a Mega Evolution. It has no STAB to speak of in gen1 (and bug was the single worst type in the game), it didn't get a good one until gen4, and even then, it still wasn't very good. From about gen3 forward, one big flaw it had was that pretty much everything it could do, Heracross did better. It's mega, though, did wonders to make it actually viable, partially because it got a STAB priority move to spam.
Beedrill has been my favourite bug-type since my first Pokémon game; LeafGreen. I thought it was so cool how it only needed to get to level 10 before you had your first fully evolved Pokémon, and was really sad to find out just how weak it was after the first couple of gyms. Already by the time you got to the likes of Erika and Sabrina, the other Pokémon had caught up in terms of power and surpassed it. Does that mean I replaced him? Lol no I took Stingo all the way to the Elite 4 xD
Now that I think about it, Bug-types have improved tremendously over the generations in competitive. Also, FSG, I appreciate the time spent on research for each and every analysis. Thanks for the content.
We need more Mega Evolutions for bad Pokemon like Ledian, Wigglytuff and Mightyena to atleast breathe in new life for these bad mons like what they did for Beedrill, Mawile and Lopunny. Its dissapointing that already good Pokemon like Salamence and Tyranitar have Megas, and in Garchomp's case, actually make something worse than the original.
They focused on Z-Crystals for gen 7, which is a shame. I really hope gen 8 brings plenty of megas. We need Flygon, Milotic, maybe Electrivire/Magmortar, etc.
More like normal evolutions, or just a straight up complete overhauls. Mega evolutions wouldn't even help those pokemon unless if they were given a cancerous ability, or a ridiculous stat spread like beedrill, which would just be bad game design.
How GOOD was the comments section on EVERY SINGLE ONE of these videos? Bad. Nothing but request after request. No constructive criticism, no compliments on how much research these guys must do. I feel pretty bad honestly.
the idea of individually looking at pokemon competitively is just so wonderful for pokemon fans it even hurts his ability to branch out to other things, no one really suggests smash bros content here either and he wants to do it... it's just other popular channels do that already so there's no need it kinda sucks for FSG the only ones doing this so that's all people want them to do
@@alexroth67 Part of it I believe is also a "15 seconds of fame" ordeal like - "Awesome! I'm part of a famous video!" Since FSG does feature the comments section (especially the highest voted) as the Pokemon featured that week, unless it was a Patreon pick. Even when people jump onto a badwagon, I'm pretty sure some of it is egotism instead of actually wanting the Pokemon - and even then once they enter a 'pattern' - like suggesting a series of starters/legendaries - it becomes easier to suggest the next Pokemon in hopes to be featured next week. Honestly, I've kept picking Scyther each week because they said on the Scizor video that Scyther was unique enough to warrant its own video and I'm just trying to get them to come full circle, like they eventually did with the Moves section in Gen 1 Battling Explained (which took well over a year like Scyther) - I know that after Gen 3 Power Creep descended on Scyther HARD and while Gen 5 likely gave it some viability with Evolite the item would likely be better used on defensive oriented Pokemon like Chansey instead of a Stealth Rock crushed Scyther. That and my personal favorite Pokemon Raichu was already featured, although I kinda wished they redid that video as A. Later since they've since started describing the Gen 7 Metagame and the Raichu video was before they started doing more than a passing mention... And B. Alolan Raichu isn't featured on the thumbnail or the intro sequence, thus it was pretty much glossed over aside from said passing mention.
I remember when I had me a Beedrill as one of the first Pokémon (outside of my starter) to use mega evolution in ORAS. It had an Adamant nature, and was literally a beast to anything I put it up against, even if it didn't outright take it out. I didn't and still don't know much about IVs and EVs, but that didn't really matter with super training. It had a move pool of Poison Jab, X-Scizzor, Protect (from when it was a Kakuna) and U-Turn. One day I learned while using Beedrill that by using protect when it mega-evolved, it would allow it's stats to boost from it's base to its mega-form stats. In short, I was able to get Beedrill up and going by always using it during/after the transformation. If I ever play a Pokémon game again, I hope mega-evolutions will make a big return (along side the super training, because that s*** was beyond incredible), because I know for sure that Beedrill will remain my go-to for a mega-evolver. side note: funny enough, I hate/fear and avoid large bugs in real life, but I'd definitely have Beedrill (or Heracross) as my buddy in the Pokémon world. Pokémon like Beedrill (like Arbok, for example) are awesome in their own right.
@@unbubbletea The Dunsparce and Unown episodes were worse, imo. At least they tried to make Ledian look like a complete and absolute monster that could destroy everything that stands in it's way in spite of it being the furthest thing possible from that, amusingly enough.
Just a couple short remarks about gens 1 and 2 competitive: - while Smogon didn't exist in the late 90s and early 2000s, there were simulators and an active online competitive scene. Porygon's Big Show, an RBY simulator, dates from about 2000 and can still be found online, and old forums/fansites like Pokémasters and Azure Heights, which housed a lot of competitive discussion, were the direct ancestors of today's communities like Smogon. While it took awhile for standards to settle (such as banning evasion), the metagame as played then did resemble modern gens 1 and 2 in most important ways, and the information you'll read on Smogon and Pokémon Perfect about gens 1 and 2 is based on competitive experience dating back to the 90s (in other words, while the Nintendo Cup information is interesting too, the modern analyses are relevant too, and needn't be ignored for historical accuracy) - if you do want the best angle on modern gen 1, you should go to the Pokémon Perfect forums, where more gen 1 players organize and which have more up-to-date articles on gen 1 Pokémon listed under "Individual Analyses" (for instance, going by Smogon analyses you might think the choice between Golem and Rhydon is a coin flip, but in fact Rhydon is considered to be much better in today's metagame)
What about the fact that, even when he was backed up by all three legendary Birds, plus a Golduck and Rattata, it took many tries to beat the Elite Four and Champion?
Note about gen 1 Beedrill. It's the only sword dance user in the game that will OHKO Exeggutor after 1 boost. Kingler's Hyperbeam can't do that. Of course, Beedrill can't do a lot of other things like OHKO Rhydon like Kingler can. However, an interesting way you could potentially use Beedrill is in NC97, a bring 6 pick 3 format, meaning that you aren't forced to use Beedrill every game. Because you're picking only 3 pokemon it can be easier to find a good match up for Beedrill and note that Blizzard had a 30% chance to freeze in Japanese gen 1 NC97 which meant Exeggutor and Rhydon were far less common. You could have both Beedrill and Kingler on your team and choose either depending on the match ups you saw in team preview. Could even add Sandslash into the roaster in case you saw opposing Gengars
It's called minmaxing. Hasnt Beedrill almost always been a physical type Pokemon? Even before the split in gen 4 Bug type moves were Physical. As was Sludge Bomb IIRC. What goof is having SpA if it's best STAB moves are/have always been Physical?
Finally! I was one of the people asking for this since the beginning. I always loved beedrill because it just seems really cool. I hated how weak it was, it just seemed to not fit. Mega beedrill is even cooler and actually can back it up.
I remember using mega bee drill, jolly nature and if you get the fell stinger boost you annihilate so many things. Ubers barely has anything for it so I had so much success using it there.
so many things could’ve been done to buff it. better stab moves, stat boosting moves, better ability, 400 base stat total, etc. twineedle having higher base attack. getting levitate instead of swarm. getting quick attack so maybe you can do the endeavor quick attack cheese. slightly better defenses or HP to actually survive 1 hit. an even higher attack stat so that you can put minimal investment into it for better survivability. all of that should’ve been something that happened early on
I might just be a gen one guy, but my beedrill was awesome took him to Pokémon league and he cleaned house granted he was level 92 but still one of my favs
If Beedrill and Mawile aren't gonna have their Megas, then give their stats a big buff so they're somewhat viable without them. And if they do get their Negas back, just tweak their stats so they won't be busted when their Mega stats stack on top of their buffed non-Mega stats.
Beedrill in RBY: 200 stats lower than the strongest Pokèmon Beedrill in Sun and Moon: 395 stats lower than the strongest Pokèmon Beedrill now: Non-Existent
How GOOD was Amoongus ACTUALLY? This pokedex filler has found niches in almost all competitive formats and was the only non-legendary/mega on the Chalk core, I am really curious what made this thing so incredible!
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False Swipe Gaming A sounds more controlled
How good was Ferrothorn ACTUALLY?
The community thread would help i think, would allow more actual comments foe these videos, and make it easier for yall to look through
How BAD was Rayquaza actually??
B
Fun fact about beedrill: Thank to an oversight, BD was the only pokemon that could poison steel types in gen 2(barring that painting pokemon). Steel type avoided the poison status by being immune to poison moves but there was no code to prevent the status. Twinneedle was, of course, the only non-poison move that poison. So technically, Beedrill had corrosion five gens before Salandit and Salazzle.
Oh wow
The more you know🌈
That’s a neat fact
@Aqua fn Actually no. Twinneedle could not poison poison types in gen one. Some clever person notice and added an extra rule to prevent this. Then Steel was added and that person must of taken a sick day since the same exception was missing from the new type.
I will have to try this
This was by far the most deserved Mega along with Mawile
What ruined Megas is having Mega Evolution to good Pokémon like Lucario, Salamence, Tyranitar, Garchomp, and the list goes on...
It should exist only to underused/bottom tier Pokémon like Lumineon, Maractus, Delibird, Beeheeyen, Vespiqueen, Mr Mime, Basculin, Seviper and many others.
@@GodzillaGamerITA Diggersby laughs in the face of mega ray.
@@alinepiroutek8932 Most pseudolegendaries got a Mega, no wonder the meta was broken with so many 700 base stat monster.
@@pacoramon9468 Pokémon is a really unbalanced game. You need to create inumerous restriction to play it "balanced" like Sleep Clause, Evasion Clause, Legendary ban, Mega ban, Gigantamax ban, Item ban
@@alinepiroutek8932 idk megas were also a way to give new forms to popular pokemon, not everything in pokemon has to be with competitive in mind
Generation 8: No Megas
R.I.P Beedrill
Beedrill got snapped 😢
Butterfree: **laughs in Gigantamax**
Beedrill isn't even in the game
The mega has rekt almost 60% of all the amazing pokemon who only exist through mega like lopunny, mawile or banette
Beedrill was just snapped out of the game, it’s still on the 3DS, so it still had its mega
Mega Beedrill has the same Attack stat as groudon.
But it also has the same Special Attack as magikarp.
You don't need special when you get a fat drill
Oof
Run a special mega bee drill no balls you wont
@@mightbeblitz8840 ._.
@@yt_account3 haha
Beedrill was the Pokemon most deserving of a mega evolution considering his trash base stats
Plus he's one of the best looking insect Pokemon
Fight me
Volcarona : am I a joke to you
@@celestialudenburg3428 yes.
Through the power of a rock- or two rocks actually and friendship
I'm not going to fight the TRUE.
100th like. Beedrill looks sick.
Why I love Beedrill: In the manga, Giovanni faced off against Elite Four Lance’s DRAGONITE with a Beedrill he caught in the Viridian Forest. How sick is that.
It’s actually not that hard(in gen 1) I’m sorry
@@cober5768 I do the same in FR/LG. He's actually not bad at all considering his move pool. And tbh, I even used it vs Brock just to see if I could. I could. Once he was set up with harden against geodude, his onix was np as long as it didn't crit. And even if it did, it wouldn't survive the rest of the team since Brock doesn't have a full restore.
Beedrill is my spiritmon too
beedrill is the best pokemon. buntd, is the best pokemon
Not really. All it did was pop the bubble shield set up by Lance's Gyarados. Freaking the hell out of Deoxys with Agility spam was better.
Mega Beedril: 15 special attack....
Guys I’m running a special set.
I believe in you!
Kira thank you I’m fallowing my dreams
Brad Schaefer yes because beedril can learn that
sounds like a Pimpnite idea. i think he even might have done a special beedril sweep.
Genesis23OPB I just looked. He did in ORAS.
Mega Beedrill was literally min-maxed... to the max.
Minmaximus! The angriest Bee who ever lived!
Yea mega beedrill it grows like three needles
Not quite, it still had 15 special attack XD
@@janehrahan5116 ikr it would've been HILARIOUS if they made it tie shedinja for lowest base stat lol
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HOW GOOD WAS BEEDRILL
**5 generations of competitive ligma and then a Mega makes it good**
I wouldn’t say good. Ok at best in specific situations
@@FraserSouris Overused is considered the cream of the crop when it comes to non-legendary pokemon. The best of the best. As FSG himself said himself, is says a heck of a lot the people used Bedrill in that environment at all.
Every pokemon in OU is supposed to be between great and amazing, that's why it's called overused. As such, saying Bedrill is okay for falling short of it is a bit harsh.
Fraser Souris you’re just wrong here. You can roughly equate the tiers to quality.
Uber: superb, OU: Excellent, UU: Good, RU: Mediocre, NU: Bad, PU: Terrible.
As a UU mon, Mega Beedril is generally good.
-laughs in oneshotting mega gardevoir-
what's ligma??
Fun fact: Weedle is the only Pokémon who doesn't learn a single Normal type move
Uhum?
Source(s): "Trust me."
@@yungpupper lmao
Return?
@@angterrastriker Apparently not. I just checked Bulbapedia
Did you you knew that beedrill has a niche...
in Gen 2 Twinneedle can poison steel types.... I kid you not... It's not much but it is something.
Wait so in that hen twinneddle was basicly sirizle b4 alola?!
@@saxonjedi5878 I guess but why would you wanna use a Beedril in gen 2 against a steel type
@@dramaticScar u woundt I'd hope
It’s because in Gen 2, Steel types can’t be poisoned by poison moves, but they can be poisoned by non-poison type moves.
@@agentblackbird9435 ah intresting
*How GOOD was Toxicroak ACTUALLY?*
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP
Taxicrak y u do dis
Steven M Attrell keep it up!!!
Purple Pepe when?
Toxicroak is great
YES PLEASE!!
Beedrill is the definition of a glass canon.
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV it's not even a canon
If Beedrill learnt Tailwind it would be much better
Nah, more of a glass nuke
Kinda like a worse deoxys attack
Mega Beedrill, regular Beedrill is just glass lol
@@oscarzxn4067 Nah, he's a cannon. Beedrill learns a whole bunch of multi-attacking moves and if you use Focus Energy to increase your crit rate you can get 5 crits and take down things you shouldn't.
First few Gens "Haha its just a Beedrill." ORAS "One sting and you're done son."
Yes yes you are
"What if mega beedrill used 5 of it's sting?"
I've never played pokemon competitively and focus on indie games more now..
And yet here I am watching my tenth episode of "How good was *pokemon name* ACTUALLY?" in a row.. Damn these videos are good.
Same here man
I like avoided these videos deliberately a few months ago
Now I’ve seen every one of them twice
@Daniel Samolewicz Ah with running a small TH-cam channel, uni studies and a keen interest in overwatch I'll never have the time haha! I'll just watch from the sidelines through videos like this!
Their quite addictive aren't they.
@@michaelwean2854 You bastard, why would you grad me back in after two months.. I'd just escaped!
Mega Beedrill is the main reason why i love mega evolutions.
Despite the crap and complaints most Pokemon who got Mega's tend to need them due to slipping on the competitive scene. Some even turned weak Pokemon to just straight up broken.
@@Xo-3130 I think megas are one of Game Freak's best ideas. They breathed new life into old Pokemon and introduced an interesting new mechanic to battles. It's a good sign that everyone wants their favorite Pokemon to get a mega. No one says "Dunsparce needs a signature Z-Move."
@@natekite7532
Signature Z-moves are a bit dumb if you ask me. I think just having the type based moves are a good idea. Them, regional variants and Megas are each good additions. (Though a few Pokemon could also use an evolution or two)
Toby They’re good when given to bad stuff like Beedrill and Lopunny, but I hate it when good Pokémon get Megas because they’re popular like Garchomp and Blaziken.
I just hope that all starter get a Mega, except for Greninja maybe due to Ash. Imagine a Mega Chesnaught or Tortera.
lets have a 1 hour special, how good was Rotom actually
Underlord 26 Four? Rotom has six forms.
Arceus.
Rotom should probably be broken up into different videos for each form.
Godzilla Gamer Rotom-Fan was actually pretty good in DP before they gimped it by removing the ghost typing
Or eevee and the eeveelutions
You should have mentioned that mega beedrill has the same special attack as magikarp
Welp.
And less than Weedle.
Pimpnite has done a sweep with mega beedrill, but he used sludge bomb and bug buzz
@@andypang1677 Lmfao! That certainly sounds like something Pimpnite would do.
@@andypang1677 Not even Bug Buzz. It was Struggle Bug
Love both Mega and pre-mega Beedrill designs. Such a cool pokemon!
It's a bee. Wowwie
Looks more like a wasp.
Or a hornet.
Well hornets are bulky wasps so..
True, but hornets are badass.
I remember when Beedrill was a Poke Ball Pokemon in Super Smash Brothers. It used to call a swarm of other Beedrill to join it in attacking the fighters in the game
Lets go for another gen 1 bug type. How good was pinser actually
Superior Troodon Decent in UU Gen 1 and 2
Good in Gen 3 UU
Usable in UU, but dropped to NU in Gen 4
Good in Gen 5's NU, and has gimmick sets in UU as a second Heracross
Regular dropped to NU, where it was decent. Mega was good in OU for Gen 6
Same for Gen 7, except regular fell to PU now
Not as good as heracross
@@TDot-mq3fn overall, yeah. Mega Pinsir is better than Mega Heracross imo.
EDIT: PU Gen 7 Pinsir is actually really good with Z-Me First
*Pinsir
"Just throw a Mega on it and maybe it will be okay."
Yeah Nintendo shut that down right quick.
@adam zarbon Game Freak, Nintendo and the Pokémon Company are all involved in creative decisions on the games.
Mega Evolutions look better than G-Max so far. Gengar and Charizard weep. :(
Konquer the only gmax I actually like are the apple ones and intellion tbh
@@tank_dempsey I like the Alcremie one I think it just makes her even cuter
Dr Peper 94 oh yeah I forgot about alcremie haha
For that one shining moment in Gen VI, Beedrill was tangling with the highest in standard play...
Mega Butterfree, anyone? Let's make another early bug's wildest dreams come true!
Gengarzilla it got a pretty solid Gmax
*encounters a Mega Beedrill swarm*
Narrator: It was at this moment that he knew he fked up
@Nish The Great the anime wont exist
I just now realized how much of a wildcard the Patreon picks can be.
Patreons know what's up. They give us 7 gens of content! Instead of the shitty Gen 4 suggestions we get in comments...
At least they are better than youtube section comments..
How good was Vileplume actually?
Edit:Wow thanks, I just really like Vileplume
venomoth
Excellent! Someone else!
Ronin Cruickshank my favorite Gen 1 Pokémon!
Wynaut both Vileplume *AND* Bellossom?
Ronin Cruickshank Seconded, I wanna see Nuptup
Careful guys, don't be too harsh on Giovanni's favourite Pokemon.
In the manga actualy
@@mrgachball1246 Yeah, that's right.
Rip red
But Red just blew it apart with Aerodactyl's Hyper Beam.
@@gengarzilla1685 It was six-on-one and Beedrill was worn out after working its ass off! Yes! That's exactly what happened! I'm not exaggerating! YOU'RE EXAGGERATING!
Definitely my favorite Pokémon, and always part of my teams. I can’t deny it stats are, well, less than desired, but it’s always got a spot with me.
Same.
It was actually my second stable pokemon (next to Blastoise) on my final team in FireRed. Even though it's bad, I love that hornet.
Same i used one in project pokemon roblox
Wow never thought i'd see someone that also likes beedrill as his fav pokemon
Well if you haven't already tried it, building a Beedrill with multi attacking moves and Focus Energy is goooood fun.
As someone who uses the pokemon I like and think look cool, rather than the stats, I always rep a Beedrill in my squad. Its a freakin' giant hornet with freakin' lances as fists. Though a 3rd stage evolution based on the Great Black Wasp and becoming Bug/Dark would be cool
How good was Golem ACTUALLY?
How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
Time to discuss the one HP pokemon...
One word: *Spikes*
One word: *Sandstorm*
Two words: *Mold Breaker*
*Hail*
*Stealth rocks*
Honestly i am quite interested how did it do.
Toxic and toxic spikes
Against an offensive team, it was good...just kidding. Being weak to Fire, Rock, and Dark means that most Pokèmon will be able to get that guaranteed KO.
@@demi-femme4821 fire, rock, dark, ghost, and flying but yeah i know what you mean lol
You know, I find Gen 1 analysis fascinating. Sure, gen 1 itself isn't that interesting, but how some mons change over time and fall from grace or rise up in the ashes and become somewhat decent or even good depending on the case.
RIP Tauros and Exeggutor lol
Hello Clefable
Mewtwo is one of the few gen 1 pokemons thats adapted over the gens
@@devilkazumi578 quite easy to always stay top tier with 130 speed and 154 special attack
Man, Beedrill is my go-to Mega whenever I play USUM Online; It's really good as either a sweeper or a Toxic Spikes lead. (Just wish I had the time to properly EV it).
Honestly my favorite episode of FSG; The tale of Pokemon's Yamcha, in effect. Plus the video quality is stellar, the voiceover is solid as always, and the writing concise but sweet.
If this is the first vid of 2019, then *hoo boy* are we in for a good year!
Maybe I'm leveling horribly wrong but isn't it really easy to max ev's out before you even hit level 30 with a pokemon?
accept yamcha used to be at least top 5 fighters in og db and early db. Now he's a joke because of a damn saibemen death.
@@elijahtoombs3524
The allegory was moreso DBZ to DBS (Yamcha/Beedrill, after years of mockery due to statistical ineptitude, found new hope through a baseball career/an interesting Mega). Agreed that Yamcha was pretty solid as Goku's first rival (although I'd like to note that even back then he was eventually outclassed by Krillin and Tien).
@@Earthboundmike
Well, it IS, but getting the CORRECT EVs is another matter entirely.
@@elijahtoombs3524
And he also has FighterZ, as well.
I want them to bring back Megas purely so Beedrill fans get the power they deserve
They should make a game where every past OP gimmick gets brought back and thrown in together.
Just a meta with Mega Rayquazas, Snorlaxes going full power with Pulverizing Pancake, Gigantamax Urshifus, and Tera-Electric Shedinjas.
@@wormsign2637 Don't forget Gen 1 Hyper Beam and permanent weather
Those are more just a programming error and a mechanic that had to be nerfed due to over-centralization than actively overpowered, one off gimmicks.
Maybe the endless weather.
I really like Mega Beedrill. I use it in OU and it has its weaknesses, but overall it's pretty damn great! Unlike in the first five generations... Sad. Anyway, we love so many pokémon even when they're trash in competitive. Keep up the good work!
How GOOD were Dusclops and Dusknoir ACTUALLY?
Pretty bad
Ok with Eviolite, but got fucked hard by knock off
@@Metalmara dusclops is wayy too passive
How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
Please, it's time for his day in the spotlight!
Tho I want Aggron I like this idea and I'm voting it... Anyways peace ☮️
or volcarona
Shedinja was pretty niche. It can do things but hazards really screw it over.
Samuel Estok the next pokemon is infernape because of the people who voted for it
I love beedrill’s design it’s kinda depressing how weak it is
Do yourself a favor and give it a chance. It makes a multi-crit build and it's fun.
@@iBloodxHunter fake
@@achyuththouta6957 Yeah, the person that's never used a Beedrill calling it fake. Ok kiddo.
"Fell Stinger time"
Yes! Thank you! A Shiny Beedrill was the first Shiny I didn't try to chase after but encountered randomly and ever since it's my favorite, this was a cool video to see how the poor bug stacked up.
I know it's a tier-creator, but I kinda wanna see a detailed look on...
HOW GOOD WAS RAYQUAZA ACTUALLY?
It was God, Yahweh, Krishna, Alpha and Omega.
@@shirshanyaroy287 Techincally, Alpha was Kyogre and Omega way Groudon
Its sent in and then
everyone dies!!!
case closed
@@shirshanyaroy287 NO dunsparce is God dont disrespect lord dunsparce
How good were Yanma and Yanmega actually?!?! My phones predictive text has picked up that sentence now...
How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY? please, i want it so much
Mega Beedrill is still in my top 5 megas. The design alone makes it one of my favorites
Beedrill is a good example of a Mega done right. Used to revitalize a Pokemon that, as far as popularity and usage, was pretty much dead, and done so effectively. I would love to see others of its kind receive a similar buff.
On the topic of Gen 1 bugs that got a Mega...
How GOOD was Pinsir ACTUALLY?
Truthfully, Pinsir was another one of those Pokemon that was never really any good until it got a Mega Evolution. It has no STAB to speak of in gen1 (and bug was the single worst type in the game), it didn't get a good one until gen4, and even then, it still wasn't very good. From about gen3 forward, one big flaw it had was that pretty much everything it could do, Heracross did better. It's mega, though, did wonders to make it actually viable, partially because it got a STAB priority move to spam.
Beedrill has been my favourite bug-type since my first Pokémon game; LeafGreen. I thought it was so cool how it only needed to get to level 10 before you had your first fully evolved Pokémon, and was really sad to find out just how weak it was after the first couple of gyms. Already by the time you got to the likes of Erika and Sabrina, the other Pokémon had caught up in terms of power and surpassed it. Does that mean I replaced him? Lol no I took Stingo all the way to the Elite 4 xD
How *GOOD* was *CELEBI* Actually?
@Keno Glover Missing the point!
Of course when other people ask they actually get likes
Sombres I feel your pain.
Sad that sword and shield took the one thing making beedrill good megas
Beedrill didnt make it anyway
@@tylikesaxolotls7866 he still conquers in USUM tho
and completely removed beedrill
HOW DARE SWSH DO MY BOY LIKE THAT
Now that I think about it, Bug-types have improved tremendously over the generations in competitive. Also, FSG, I appreciate the time spent on research for each and every analysis. Thanks for the content.
We need more Mega Evolutions for bad Pokemon like Ledian, Wigglytuff and Mightyena to atleast breathe in new life for these bad mons like what they did for Beedrill, Mawile and Lopunny.
Its dissapointing that already good Pokemon like Salamence and Tyranitar have Megas, and in Garchomp's case, actually make something worse than the original.
Mega Ledian would be pretty cool, but Game Freak has seemed to drop the idea of Megas, which is disappointing
They focused on Z-Crystals for gen 7, which is a shame. I really hope gen 8 brings plenty of megas. We need Flygon, Milotic, maybe Electrivire/Magmortar, etc.
What about poor little defenceless Dunsparce, Jumpluff and CARNIVINE! They had to be needed a MEGA!!!💢
More like normal evolutions, or just a straight up complete overhauls. Mega evolutions wouldn't even help those pokemon unless if they were given a cancerous ability, or a ridiculous stat spread like beedrill, which would just be bad game design.
@@yungmuney5903 Well Ledian and Wigglytuff couldn't get normal evolutions because they already have 3 stages.
*How* *GOOD* *were* *Yanma/Yanmega* *ACTUALLY?*
I WILL NOT STOP!
@Hussein Rizk nah
@Hussein Rizk yanma yes , but in gen 4 yanmeaga did some damage due to two great abilities. Today yes not too good
Hussein Rizk they’re not as good as they used to be. But they are still decent (Yanma was banned from lc and Yanmega is great in ru)
How GOOD was the comments section on EVERY SINGLE ONE of these videos?
Bad. Nothing but request after request. No constructive criticism, no compliments on how much research these guys must do. I feel pretty bad honestly.
@@alexroth67 but you know that's what FSG always says at the end of his videos
Most of them don't even seem to care about the actual content and just want their favorite Pokemon to be featured
@@goGothitaLOL Just because he says that doesn't mean he doesn't prefer an actual response to his video or appreciation of his work.
the idea of individually looking at pokemon competitively is just so wonderful for pokemon fans it even hurts his ability to branch out to other things, no one really suggests smash bros content here either and he wants to do it... it's just other popular channels do that already so there's no need it kinda sucks for FSG the only ones doing this so that's all people want them to do
@@alexroth67 Part of it I believe is also a "15 seconds of fame" ordeal like - "Awesome! I'm part of a famous video!" Since FSG does feature the comments section (especially the highest voted) as the Pokemon featured that week, unless it was a Patreon pick. Even when people jump onto a badwagon, I'm pretty sure some of it is egotism instead of actually wanting the Pokemon - and even then once they enter a 'pattern' - like suggesting a series of starters/legendaries - it becomes easier to suggest the next Pokemon in hopes to be featured next week.
Honestly, I've kept picking Scyther each week because they said on the Scizor video that Scyther was unique enough to warrant its own video and I'm just trying to get them to come full circle, like they eventually did with the Moves section in Gen 1 Battling Explained (which took well over a year like Scyther) - I know that after Gen 3 Power Creep descended on Scyther HARD and while Gen 5 likely gave it some viability with Evolite the item would likely be better used on defensive oriented Pokemon like Chansey instead of a Stealth Rock crushed Scyther.
That and my personal favorite Pokemon Raichu was already featured, although I kinda wished they redid that video as A. Later since they've since started describing the Gen 7 Metagame and the Raichu video was before they started doing more than a passing mention... And B. Alolan Raichu isn't featured on the thumbnail or the intro sequence, thus it was pretty much glossed over aside from said passing mention.
I remember when I had me a Beedrill as one of the first Pokémon (outside of my starter) to use mega evolution in ORAS. It had an Adamant nature, and was literally a beast to anything I put it up against, even if it didn't outright take it out. I didn't and still don't know much about IVs and EVs, but that didn't really matter with super training. It had a move pool of Poison Jab, X-Scizzor, Protect (from when it was a Kakuna) and U-Turn.
One day I learned while using Beedrill that by using protect when it mega-evolved, it would allow it's stats to boost from it's base to its mega-form stats. In short, I was able to get Beedrill up and going by always using it during/after the transformation.
If I ever play a Pokémon game again, I hope mega-evolutions will make a big return (along side the super training, because that s*** was beyond incredible), because I know for sure that Beedrill will remain my go-to for a mega-evolver.
side note: funny enough, I hate/fear and avoid large bugs in real life, but I'd definitely have Beedrill (or Heracross) as my buddy in the Pokémon world. Pokémon like Beedrill (like Arbok, for example) are awesome in their own right.
Watching this video after Sword and Shield's release makes Beedrill's viability in the competitive scene all the more tragic, lol
How good was Torterra actually?
I have made good on my promise.
YES
PLEASE
YES
How BAD was Torterra ACTUALLY
First time I’ve ever been on this channel. So I just wanted to say, that intro is dope, the graphics on it are flawless👌🏿🔥
How good was yanma and yanmega actually?
9:55 - Aw yeah! Shuckle's gonna evolve any second now!
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...An-any second now haha... yeah... Shuckle!...
Man, I'm watching this playlist for the first time and have been doing so for weeks. Now I have to wait like everyone else.
He also did an unown video which you can't find in playlist
How GOOD was Celebi ACTUALLY?
How GOOD was Victrebeel ACTUALLY?
*I will never stop screeching*
This would be a boring episode...
@@stephenveerasammy3074 As boring as the Ledian one? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@unbubbletea The Dunsparce and Unown episodes were worse, imo. At least they tried to make Ledian look like a complete and absolute monster that could destroy everything that stands in it's way in spite of it being the furthest thing possible from that, amusingly enough.
@@matthewkuscienko4616 Oh no, don't get me wrong. The Ledian episode was great. I was being sarcastic.
Gotta love how half of the video is the last two generations.
Love using m-beedrill. Fel stinger is a scary move!
Just a couple short remarks about gens 1 and 2 competitive:
- while Smogon didn't exist in the late 90s and early 2000s, there were simulators and an active online competitive scene. Porygon's Big Show, an RBY simulator, dates from about 2000 and can still be found online, and old forums/fansites like Pokémasters and Azure Heights, which housed a lot of competitive discussion, were the direct ancestors of today's communities like Smogon. While it took awhile for standards to settle (such as banning evasion), the metagame as played then did resemble modern gens 1 and 2 in most important ways, and the information you'll read on Smogon and Pokémon Perfect about gens 1 and 2 is based on competitive experience dating back to the 90s (in other words, while the Nintendo Cup information is interesting too, the modern analyses are relevant too, and needn't be ignored for historical accuracy)
- if you do want the best angle on modern gen 1, you should go to the Pokémon Perfect forums, where more gen 1 players organize and which have more up-to-date articles on gen 1 Pokémon listed under "Individual Analyses" (for instance, going by Smogon analyses you might think the choice between Golem and Rhydon is a coin flip, but in fact Rhydon is considered to be much better in today's metagame)
I know this is a year old but I just wanted to say thanks for posting this. This is really informative and interesting.
Now that you have done beedrill, there is the obvious, you finally have to ask the greatest question, how good was BUTTERFREE ACTUALLY.
Nah, we must wait until 2021, so he can talk about its gigantamax
@@ElementalArcher lol they are banned
No one will ever convince me that Buntd, is not the strongest pokemon ever.
What about the fact that, even when he was backed up by all three legendary Birds, plus a Golduck and Rattata, it took many tries to beat the Elite Four and Champion?
@@dwanedibly8129 perhaps the fact that it's trainers didn't even know the difference between a full heal and a full restore.
“Some mega sweet more effective”
*shows the actual debuff mega garchomp*
"Why does universe hate Waspinator... wait I mean Beedrill?"
I mean, its shiny looks like waspinator, so technically you're not wrong
"Oh, no. NO need to help Beedrill. Beedrill gets himself to the Pokemon Center(!)"
The best nickname for Beedrill is Vespiking
Beedrill is really cool looking, and with its Mega Evolution, it not only LOOKED cool, but it WAS cool
How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY! Let's start off this year with a real pokemon!
How good was Rotom actually?
PLS
trt 001 Which one?
I'm thinking the forms will all need their separate video
Gen 4 they all were pretty similar and in future gens most dropped in usage, only Wash really went on to greatness still living in OU
Two videos:
How good was Rotom-wash actually?
How good were all the others forms?
WOO FINALLY
But I must ask
How good was Pinsir actually?
My favorite pokemon, ty, i always loved it and used since since gen 1 and always made sure it was to level 100. I still have my leaf green beedrill.
Note about gen 1 Beedrill. It's the only sword dance user in the game that will OHKO Exeggutor after 1 boost. Kingler's Hyperbeam can't do that. Of course, Beedrill can't do a lot of other things like OHKO Rhydon like Kingler can. However, an interesting way you could potentially use Beedrill is in NC97, a bring 6 pick 3 format, meaning that you aren't forced to use Beedrill every game. Because you're picking only 3 pokemon it can be easier to find a good match up for Beedrill and note that Blizzard had a 30% chance to freeze in Japanese gen 1 NC97 which meant Exeggutor and Rhydon were far less common. You could have both Beedrill and Kingler on your team and choose either depending on the match ups you saw in team preview. Could even add Sandslash into the roaster in case you saw opposing Gengars
How GOOD was Miltank ACTUALLY? #DairyTroupe
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Are we gonna ignore that MEGA BEEDRILL has 15 SpA?!
DuskiiRose Why would you use it’s special attack?
It's called minmaxing. Hasnt Beedrill almost always been a physical type Pokemon? Even before the split in gen 4 Bug type moves were Physical. As was Sludge Bomb IIRC. What goof is having SpA if it's best STAB moves are/have always been Physical?
Time to run special attacking Mega Beedrill bois
@@niki75 poison was physical before gen 4 as well.
@Ghoul Gaming Did you forget about Gigantamax Butterfree?
Finally! I was one of the people asking for this since the beginning. I always loved beedrill because it just seems really cool. I hated how weak it was, it just seemed to not fit. Mega beedrill is even cooler and actually can back it up.
I remember using mega bee drill, jolly nature and if you get the fell stinger boost you annihilate so many things. Ubers barely has anything for it so I had so much success using it there.
I just realised how much effort you actually have to put into videos like these. Good job on keeping it up weekly, has to take tons of time.
Yo I feel like the patrons are actually trying to kill this series lately
TH-cam comment requests are all the same things. At least the Patrons are more creative and entertaining with their picks.
@@gengarzilla1685 I disagree, but ok
How good was Butterfree?! This is probably its only chance ever!
I will never forget the time I had a slightly underleveled normal Beedrill one-shot Diantha's Mega Gardevoir with Poison Jab.
so many things could’ve been done to buff it. better stab moves, stat boosting moves, better ability, 400 base stat total, etc. twineedle having higher base attack. getting levitate instead of swarm. getting quick attack so maybe you can do the endeavor quick attack cheese. slightly better defenses or HP to actually survive 1 hit. an even higher attack stat so that you can put minimal investment into it for better survivability. all of that should’ve been something that happened early on
How GOOD was Golem ACTUALLY?!
Vulpix Videos yes please. The only one of the original Pokémon that evolves by trade that hasn’t been done
FINALLY someone else want's golem! I've been asking since gallade!
@@bagelpenguin6499 ha.. I've been asking since machamp
I might just be a gen one guy, but my beedrill was awesome took him to Pokémon league and he cleaned house granted he was level 92 but still one of my favs
*How good was Celebi actually*
If Beedrill and Mawile aren't gonna have their Megas, then give their stats a big buff so they're somewhat viable without them.
And if they do get their Negas back, just tweak their stats so they won't be busted when their Mega stats stack on top of their buffed non-Mega stats.
Beedrill in RBY: 200 stats lower than the strongest Pokèmon
Beedrill in Sun and Moon: 395 stats lower than the strongest Pokèmon
Beedrill now: Non-Existent
How good was Celebi actually! Come’n guys!
Keep upvoting comments asking for it and it might happen soon ;-)!
How GOOD was Amoongus ACTUALLY? This pokedex filler has found niches in almost all competitive formats and was the only non-legendary/mega on the Chalk core, I am really curious what made this thing so incredible!
HP, Regen, Spore
how GOOD was Butterfree ACTUALLY?
He was as s**t every Generation! Outclassed by Heracross, Scizor, Yanmega, Volcarona and Mega-Pinsir! So...
Unknown User its beedrills counterpart so who cares lol
You still own Us Butterfree, after this Beedrill video 🦋
I only had a beedrill and a feraligatr on my team in soul silver
How good was Jynx actually?
Yes! Justice for jynx!!
This would be a boring episode...
How good was Golem actually? I shall NEVER give up!
How good was Celibi actually
Happy 1 year anniversary of this video
After thinking bee for 5 generations, Beedrill finally managed to get behind the UU fellows.
How GOOD was Diet Coke ACTUALLY? (Gen 1-7)