How Does a $30,000 FAKE Patek Philippe Compare to the Real Deal?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- When you put a $350,000 gold Patek Philippe Nautilus next to a $30,000 replica, is it even a fair fight?
In this video, Charlie takes a fake Patek Philippe watch made out of actual 18K gold and compares it to the real Nautilus ref 5980/1R-001. The authentic version of this watch is a very coveted piece that has seen its price quadruple since 2018, so making a counterfeit version of this luxury watch is no small task. In fact, most fake watches are nowhere near the price of this gold replica and counterfeiting gold watches is difficult because of the high density of gold (thus the reason why this replica was actually made out of real gold).
Nevertheless, you'll see that in the end of the real vs. fake battle, authenticity always wins!
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Igrotumm’s replicas are simply the best.
It actually being made of solid gold is wild 😂
I know. That's the only good thing about it LOL.
I thought you was joking WTF
Melt that thang and make a chain lol 😂
I tried many, but those guys are no joke, they sell something that you cannot buy anywhere else.
You can get better fakes of that watch with correct case dimensions for $600. Thats a horrible replica
I was about to say, these days, most of the superclones are pretty damn accurate unless you open them up. 2k+ plus clones are pretty much indistinguishable especially the rolex ones because they have been making and improving them so long. Some even have the holographic rolex logo lol
But this fake, as crappy as it is design wise, it's made out of actual gold.
@@thethinker2688 eh don't let china steal our IP, if you gotta go Chinese for price there's a right way, better a real ChenXi than a fake patek any day, same thing goes for pagani design, and Invicta homages as well, ive heard good things about loreo, and a few other homage brands as well, which is really the space i like to dwell, nobody else i know of has a rainbow skeleton daytona design. Its a bit like good fanart, and i like it.
I have one thats an homage to two separate genta pieces the nautilus and Royal Oak simultaneously, its a Forsining GMT1211-3 its a bit thicker, but overall has a kind of cybertruck vibe in the case also its got a bracelet with a patek pattern linkage but in an ap taper, chunky ~13mm but i love the look, it wears its size well, some of the bracelet links leave some quality to be desired, but thats where the big money comes in isn't it?
Certainly you're getting your watch per dollar met on this end and thats why i like watch collecting as a fun little hobby, like funko pop or pokemon cards, or something kind of kitchy like that, where as the big boys is more like collecting meuseum pieces, supercars, etc.
There's levels to the watch game beware however when you get to a pocket dimension straight knockoffs youre in straight up watch hell, be aware of dopplegangers that slip from this dimension into the realms of real high end watches, a guy that pays 30k for that, a fake rolex, or even a few hundo is being fleeced whether they admit it or not.
Homages that bear a different brand and perhaps some few obvious differences is respectible, its not pretending to be something else, its just borrowing some swag, thats fine, same for debrands, if you get something that looks an awful lot like a submariner, but not a logo in sight, well it's not pretending to be a rolex thats for certain.
Im okay with "close but not really" its acceptable, after all design is language and theres nothing wrong with borrowing parlance from another brand, but a watch that is a lie forged in hopefully stainless steel (and not brass) is unacceptable, lies are unacceptable, its the difference between talking like someone else, and pretending to actually be them.
Who wants to, by virtue of choice of accessories, be a walking liar every tick of the lie on their wrist?
Ruin your general credibility for a clock on your wrist, its absurd.
William Mehling what site to go to?
@@tarvorouscrawford6565 trusty time. puretime. intiime
I have both a fake and a genuine 5711 one day they got mixed up I had to go to Philip Patek to find out which one was real and which one was fake cost $100 to figure it out
I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago, I owe few originals (GMT, Aquanaut 5167), I must admit, after getting this rep I don't see the point of buying genuine anymore. This watch is so identical that it would be impossible to spot unless you are very experienced and even then it won't be an easy task. The rep in this video is really low quality.
Where did you get it from? Asking for a friend 🤣
@@pitervain6644 Thanks! On Instagram?
Yes
Surely it’s not about what others find impossible to spot or not etc. surely it’s about owning the real thing and wearing it with pride. I’d feel like a fraud wearing a fake anything let alone replica 5711 - so tacky
The greatest difference, no matter how many people you fool, is knowing yourself that it isn’t real. For $30k, the guy could’ve bought a respectable collection of real watches. I’ll always live by the saying “fake watches = fake people” no matter how much you try and justify otherwise. Just wait for the real thing, or get something else
A 30K watch and they couldn't put a chronograph movement in it?!
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A 400 to 500 $ patek comes with ETA valijoux7750. This watch is not a 30k watch.
No it's pvd coating, he is bs
"hard to replicate the shape" noob factory took that personally
LOL
I would've took that 30k and bought two real Rolex watches or Cartier watches from Authorized dealers. smh
Good luck
I have a $30,000 fake Patek Philippe I can sell you.
Me too!
$30K fake?!?! That things is more like a $300 fake. I've seen fakes for a couple hundreds dollars better than that one.
Wait what someone paid 30 grand for that fake that’s absolutely nuts
Telle me about it James. It is made out of gold though, which is not characteristic for a fake.
Anyone who buys this is probably gonna try to pass it off as real and flip it, I don’t see why else someone would pay 30k for a fake 💀
The top of the line replica nowadays won't cost more than RMB4200(USD700-800).
They'd fixed most of the problem. The only thing they still need improvement is the movement. The window shows the movement so u can tell right away.
While I don't recommend people to buy fake watch, in reality not everyone can afford a Patak Philip. If they can get the same look with only a few hundred dollars they'll still go for it.
Which side me seller high and riplica
@@pankajgangwar2151 Can't understand what u trying to say?
@@calvin14888where to get high end replica watches
Still confused on who would spend 30k on a fake watch?
Me too, but people are pretty crazy.
I’m almost certain they don’t know, like who would think a full gold watch is fake
Probably the same kind of clueless idiot who would buy a 30k Rolex.
How can something that size made out of 18K gold be worth $1,000? 🤷
Did you not see the reading on the XRF Niton scanner?
It's not fake if it's basically a gold bracelet and you can get it with no name on the dial. I would wear it. It still looks nice.
im impressed that their are 30k rep watches i thought only less wealthy people bought replicas but 30k it far from less wealthy
Much appreciate CRM family, Awesome episode🔥..
Thank you Saeed. The real episode is tomorrow. 😉
30k for a replica 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 the guy must be soft in the head
To say the least LOL.
His head is as functional as the chrono of the fake!😂
@Nick Chang LOL 😂
That's crazy that it is real gold. If you wanna wait a month you can get more correct ones from dh gate. They won't be gold but they will have be stamped. At least the rolex watches I've seen are. Good content.. Much appreciated. I liked the video and will be checking out your other videos.
Easier giveaway is seeing if the wearer is in an inexpensive , or entry level luxury car.
This fake watch sucks if the chronograph doesn't function but seriously there's some crazy accurate fake Rolex out there, all the models and they're spot on. I'm afraid to buy a modern Rolex right now (unless it's from CRM of course) actually there's even "super clone" Seamasters- you can't tell!
Well watchmakers always can tell =)
@@AnimeVideoEditor doesn't matter if you can't open them up. It's even getting hard with a lens
Replica watches are great because it teaches these overpriced fools how to level set.
30 thousand mf dollars?!?!?!
Holy Jesus!!!!
I’d much rather go to the gray market and get some authentic 2nd hand quality watches than buy a fake….. wtf are we even talking about here?!?!?!
Someone paid $30k on a fake that is wild
No
Yes, the guy who brought this to the store paid $30,000 for it.
@@Crmjewelers but did he buy it as real?
No
Replica watches are for posers, anybody who actually likes watches would buy within their means….
It took a while. But I finally came to a personal self realization that ‘luxury’ watches are absolutely unnecessary for me. Haven’t worn any from my collection since the Apple Watch came out.
That’s a bad fake. Use a PPF and other than the crown popping you won’t be able to tell. Shout out to RepTime! ;)
The only good thing this fake has going for it is that's it's actually made out of 18K god.
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@@Crmjewelers and it’s a fraction of the price and tells the same time and 99.99% of people won’t know it’s fake. ;)
But you'll know and it won't appreciate in price like the real thing. 😉
@@Crmjewelers As your good friend Roman Sharf always says - “watches are not investments” ;)
BAHAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's okay if you disagree with friends. 😉
Funny how the gold analyzer shot is edited and cut. My guess, is this video is as fake as the watch, and that's no 18K fake, but gold painted/plated inline with the rest of the watch. Who would waste thousands on gold and not bother to pay a couple hundred for a chrono so the watch at least worked? Makes no sense. Clickbait and editing makes more sense.
You're funny. Watch the Reel on IG to see the scanning of both watches as well with the Niton XL2.
Fake or not, still a nice watch. No YOU can't tell the difference if someone is walking past you with one. but on another note, who paid 30k knowing that wasn't real???? I have some watches i want to sell, hit me up!
Why would anyone buy a fake watch that does not even work properly for $30,000? You can spend $30,000 and buy a really nice genuine luxury watch.
I do understand people buying replica of this watch when the watch cost as much as an house. I would buy a replica. And by the way, a super clone cost 1000 max and this one doesn’t look like one.
just an FYI, you cant say the word fake.. because its real.. not authentic but real. fake is something not real not visible and not touchable. they are clones or replicas. also 30k for a replica hell no. a couple hundred is good for me.
if i buy a fake watch I will go with a fake watch around a 100 $ not 30000$ because at the end they both are a 100% fake. no matter how much they try to do better. so on my opinion, try to buy a cheap brands have a similär shapes but not go for the fakes, and at this time I suggest (Mido multifort TV big date) the house is from Swasiland and they have a very old history about this world .
Should’ve shown the movement, that’s by far the easiest way of telling real vs fakes
The owner of this replica didn't want us to open it 🤷
special moment in your life to make that achievement?? what ?? earning or spending 350k is not an achievement. people should buy fake watches but such a fake watch should not cost more than 500 euros. people buy 350k watch because they are stupid. fake is the same. it's that obvious. can you buy fake stradivarius violin? fake buggatti? would it do the same as original? ofc not. but watch will do.
The lighting on that beautiful day date is beyond this world
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i really dont understand the replica market... paying a few grand for shitty movement but look alike?? even my Zenith i got for SGD$4000 is better
Apparently they are able to get hold of parts and spare parts that are authentic parts and spare parts and assemble them together were all the parts or points check have authentic movement, case but not Swiss assembled ... Frankensteinof sorts?
Lol i thought the one on his right hand initially was fake 😂
The date window gave it away to me
Hahaha.. 30K fake? Whatever kid... 100% know for a fact that YOU would not be able to tell a 1:1 clone if you had no reference piece
Fake scarcity creates fake market, hope they start making good fake ferraris and gt3's not just watches.
wait........ how is it possible that fake is 30,000????? No fake watches will cost that high!!!!!
It would get the $30,000 “aftermarket” watch any day and use the remaining $320,000 for a house 🏠 That’s an accomplishment
well you would have wasted 30k. Id rather buy a Rolex thats real and then get the house (thats probably overpriced af as well in this market)
@@Cosmystery Everyone so pressed about house prices when they are completely reasonable in most places 😂😂
@@Genesis-lz6sx huh? Do you not live in the US because they are sky high everywhere here
@@Cosmystery I live in Florida the hottest marker around and do real estate here :) the prices are fair and in some spots even undervalued still
@@Cosmystery sure Miami / Fort Lauderdale is expensive but you can still get amazing values for money in many places. Not to mention the home market won’t be seeing any correction due to inflation and being one of the only safe reliable investments today but we can skip all that since everyone knows that. It’s much cheaper to buy then it is to rent
Edit: great example space coast :) you can almost get on the ocean for 300-400k
The fake watch, was that made with real gold but a lower karat? At first it said gold plate suspect then went to no gold plating 17kt. These fakes are using real gold now to fool ppl. Crazy
No such thing as a 30k fake. Super fakes are 600 US$ and lesser quality ones around 300 US$.
There is if it's made out of actual gold. Re-watch the last part of the video.
this is very bad replica, i know replica of patek very impressive, but cost 1000/1500€
The only good thing is that it's made out of actual gold. Gold replicas usually aren't, so the relative weight difference is significant.
@@Crmjewelers yes, I agree with you. greetings from Turin🇮🇹
Your terminology is incorrect. It's not a fake watch. It's a real watch. It's a fake Patek.
Igrotumm’s quality is unbeatable in the replica market.
swissarex sells copycat watches that look exactly like the originals. You won't be sorry you made the purchase.
Cool comparison. Don’t know how that replica is $30k thoooo
It's made out of gold. Watch the last part of the video.
Amazing how many people ramble without watching the whole video
I think you should buy the fake one, and spend 29.750 in Cancer research.
Because you chose to mingle those items in the same room you become suspect Rejections should be sprayed red and documented rejected.
Why would you pay 30Gs for a fake? Who are you trying to impress with that?😆😆😆
Hope you guys are destroying those fakes in the most disrespectful way… that’s crazy
no way that shit is $3k, bro was either got ripped off or really stupid
You might call it a super clone, but the truth is, it's nowhere near on par with a gussl replica watch.
I threw a Nautilus hard as I could to the floor like 6years ago. When I didn’t know anything about watches. Just arrived in Hong Kong from a small town. I still have all the casings and bits and pieces. Can i go to get it replaced? Ill pay alot if there is a chance
If anyone has a genuine solution, please reach out, to approach patek for me I duno where to begin and I have fuk all pieces of the watch left. Ill give 25% of the watch to someone if it gets replaced or built
@@joelz2255 You threw a Nautilus on the floor "as hard as you could".
You deserve, and will get, *NO* support or love here. That like going to a Women's Institute saying you smack your wife, then ask them to help you fix the relationship. 😭🤷🏼♂️😂😜
You won't be sorry for looking at swissarex for their selection of imitation watches.
Great video. You need to do more of these.
That's the finitely the plan MJ 😉
What you are discussing is Chinese fake 100$ not 30000 fake lol .
There both overpriced by a mile, there not even good looking 😢
30k for a fake?! i would much rather get a rolex or a cheap patek calatrava 😂😂
What about the movement? Did the fake/aftermarket watch at least use the real movement?
how to know which one is real ???.... well, if I weare one of those, is the fake one. I m poor
I buy real and fake. I use fake really when I travel or sketchy places.
Who the FK would spend $30K on a REPLICA WTF
If the watch didn't say patek Philip would you still wear it 😂
A metal analyzer can do it with weight and dimensional s in around a minute
Please help me to identify if fake or orig my patek watch
When charlie said that if nothing was made in patek philippe factory it is a fake watch, i got this video totally. It is possible for the person who made this fake to somehow mix the some parts of genuine patek with fake
Even though it's fake the gold is worth about 13k scrap 😂 I mean he could melt it down and have you guys make him a Cuban haha
LOL
I've seen better fakes for $500. You got screwed.
Great video bro🔥 I had no idea scammers will go all out with real gold lol. Thanks and keep it up! 💜🇺🇸
Thank you my friend 👍👍
I'd buy the fake, it's much cheaper and only 10% of people will know it's fake cotowatch as well
If you spend 30k on a fake patek, and not a real AP, you need jesus.
The clunking movement would be a dead give away.
Why is every clone nicer than the original I dont get it.
This is not a 30K replica watch. It's a 300 dollars replica. Just from video, we can see to many difference
Did you not see the part that it's made out of real gold?
That replica is more of a AAA ...it's rubbish
Chinese ppl make sure you looking at this video
Wait… is the clone exceptional expensive with price of 30.000$? Or is the original very cheap? I mean the Marketprice should be around 200.000$ by now..
The clone is made out of gold.
@@Crmjewelers there are so many other things you could buy for that money. And this is basically one of the fastest ways to devalue money.. y
This is a crappy aaa grade case. A 125$ replica uses that case with those dimensions. Check out some of the super clones. Almost 1:1
The only thing good about this fake it's that it's made out of actual gold.
These fakes are quite amazing really. But it seems to me the finer points are where you see and feel the difference. The way a bezel rotates and with a buttery smoothness is one clue. But the real problem is the way the watch market conducts itself and by that I mean the snobbery and fake exclusivity that top brands play on customers. If I went into the Bentley dealership and asked to buy a 300k Bentley do you think they would um and arghh and refuse my order? No.
So the real issue for me is supply which is worst with Rolex. They make no more money from shorting the market, unless they too are selling out the back door, so why not just build another f---ing factory and up the supply? Why is it that I simply cannot order a new Rolex from a dealer and get an accurate delivery date, even if it is a year or two away???
Thus I find myself in the market for a new Rolex Submariner Starbucks or whatever it is called this week, cannot get one, and thus am looking at buying a super clone. I am struggling to pull the trigger though because I know it is a fake and though good isn't the real thing. Not sure what to do or what the real answer is to this situation. All I want to do is spend 10k with my local pompous twit of a Rolex dealer and he won't take my money. Tosser.
Fake watch for 30g’s😡 no thank you
Chinese : Thank you we will be better next time
Yea that’s a terrible replica.
Definitely not $30,000.
More like $600
Those case dimensions are of the carts🫣
It's made out of gold.
Ok that would explain the price.
Great video though
How is this 30K watch so ugly?
The only winner here is the person who sold the fake watch. You need a PhD to become a fake watch buster these days.
Unfortunately, the guy who bought it knew it was fake and wanted to buy a fake watch.
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I have searched around for this *Patek Philippe 10atm resistant 8168 all* but couldn't find it on the internet. But I have brand with me here so am a bit confused. Please I need the audience's help to know if patek philippe have product of it.. Thanks
I want to know what kind of people spends 30k on a fake watch
The stupid ones lol
100 usd replicas looks mote better
You lost me at "It has a very unique shape...it's hard to replicate this shape" please dude. Do you even know what you are talking about ?!?! I have a replica day date that has full serial number engravings and individually set diamond bezel.saphire and It's fooled jewelers. If it's a supposed 3000$ replica. It should be real gold too.. and you shouldn't be able to tell. A canal street nautilus for 50-75$ yes.
Yo NO WAY is that a $30K replica watch. Someone lied to you, badly.. that’s a $30 rep, actually realistically more like a $60-70 one. I know cuz I’m quite familiar with that rotor sound it made when you swung it around it sounded exactly like the old 2813 movement I’ve had in many crap level watches. It’s a cheap movement, cheapest automatic available, one can be yours for a whopping $10, AliExpress special. You confirmed it by winding it and that loud grind brought back many memories. It’s surely not a Seiko NH series movement those aren’t as audible, you can say they’re silent compared to the China made/designed competition, but they are a bit more costlier, you’d find them more common in watches starting about $80+. Non working chronos? You’re serious, one can have working chronos with a V63 or V65 quartz movement, it’ll cost a bit more like $80+ but of course it’s battery operated. To have a working chrono automatic you’d need to have at least a 7750, China made/designed of course but much better than the 2813. The 7750 is in watches starting about $350. They do have clone 4130 which is the best you can get in the world of chrono autos, but these are in watches in the $600-700+ range. You can get one of these, swap in a genuine Nautilus dial, hands and maybe date wheel, and glass which set you back a good $6-7K altogether, that’d be a pretty convincing rep, that a PP vet watchmaker would require taking off the back for closer inspection. Let’s not forget the list/retail price of a Nautilus from PP AD is about $30K. So have this crappy of a rep with this many shortcomings I’d bet my life this didn’t cost over one hundred dollars… if it did, whoever bought is the biggest fool in the world and should probably get out of the game forever. Sorry to break it to ya. Just look at the other Nautilus comparison vids, peeps comparing real vs a $600+ one that’s way more convincing than this crapper. Thats an instant tell already no way $30K.. this is a joke right?
Nobody would pay $30,000 for the fake if they knew it was a fake.
😂😂😂30k true the drain
People are out of their minds. The owner of this watch actually did.
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This bad replica, I was about to buy a fake one , and in Rolex service in my town they were shocked of it and they really got pissed of.
However I returned the Watch to the owner and told him sorry this fake.
So confused! So it’s 18k gold? Because super clones are only like $1,000-1,500. Even if it’s gold it’s a horrible clone.
Most super clones are not made out of gold.
Superclones With ETA movement cost around 500 $ here in Asia. Only rare superclones which have gyrotourbillon or triple tourbillon cost 1 k or more.
The comment saying “I purchased 5711 Nautilus about six months ago…. I don’t see the point buying genuine” This is a fake account and the response is too. “Asking for a friend”… I’ve seen it time and time again on various watch videos. It’s simple--if you can’t afford it, it’s ok not to have it.