Hate these sorts of questions but I was curious too as to your grading process for this. I don't believe there's any way to get Gen 5 color science on this version of the pocket UNLESS you do it in post once you shoot raw but I just don't know if that conversion would be available. I personally use Emotive Color's "P4KALEX" lut as my base on my 4k which essentially give you a Arri rec709 look as a starting point - your footage with the grade looks so wonderful & It looks just like how I would grade it, I find it hard to believe you stuck with the gen 1 color science!
@@NazeerThomasFilm for this one it's pretty simple - I did colour space transform from Film Gen1 to Arri Alexa colour space (seems to hold onto highlights in a pleasant way for me), then used color boost/gamma/gain to get the approximate look I wanted, then the "custom" curve to fine-tune.
@@althenimble hahaa I thought so! Thanks a lot, I was burning to know how you pulled this off, there's a lot of horribly graded vidoes online with the pocket, I figured it had to be as simple as you using the Arri Color Space & then grading from there, it's awesome that we both share the same eye! Eager to see more posts from you in the future
Yeah, that wide look sometimes works really well. Best with natural light and slim actors! I've found also works well at hip height and 2:35 because you get less intense distortion on faces (when you're really close up your not on the face)
@@althenimble Spielberg uses lens distortion artistically which we can see on his most films so distrotion is not a negative vibe on motion picture if use it correctly 😀
@@arunr4103 For sure, I've found you just have to be aware of what challenges it poses. And of course Malick goes wider than almost anyone else in the industry. In A Hidden Life they even used some 8mm I think!
The angle aperture of this lens doesn't seem to be that wide, it looks like the Sigma 18-35mm (vitrox adapter - bmpcc 4k). I shoot a lot of apartments, houses, I need a lens wide, could anyone help me?
Viltrox turns MFT into approx S35, so that Sigma is like 18mm on S35 as its widest... This is the equivalent of ~15mm on S35. Laowa recently released a 6mm cine, equivalent of 12mm on S35 - very wide! That's as wide as you'll get on the OG BMPCC without going fisheye.
I turned my basic grade into a LUT, then do false colour on my monitor. Look depending, I’ll be going for the standard 70 IRE on the talent. I find for me personally, ETTR makes me too afraid of clipping and I often end up underexposing. Some clipping in the right places is fine as long as the highlights are rolled off nicely, IMO
@@GlennUpgraded just do a grade on a clip that’s well-exposed and broadly representative - ie. mid shot of talent in a high contrast scene. I just do the Arri conversion with a couple of tweaks as mentioned elsewhere in the comments as my starting point. This base LUT shouldn’t “bake in” any exposure compensation to look good (both subjectively and in the scopes) - if it does, you’re using the wrong example clip. For this purpose, i go for a very neutral look, like manufactures aim to when making theirs. Then of course you need a monitor that can load LUTs and do false colour, but that includes many inexpensive options nowadays.
Most importantgrade adjustment for exposure purposes is your contrast curve. You can do that manually or have it as part of a color space conversion and/or an existing LUT
Basically it was convert colour space and gamma into arri, then use the arri Rec709 LUT, then manually tweak the "custom" curve. In my opinion, this camera is really sensitive to correct exposure, i.e dynamic range is good but latitude is not so good (I could be wrong). So the key is really nailing the correct exposure, then the grade is relatively easy
Haha, depends one which film you’re referencing. This the equivalent of around ~15-16mm on super 35. TOL is mostly 15-18mm. TTW mostly ~15mm. KOC and STS 12mm-15mm. Then AHL mostly 12mm and occasionally as wide as 8mm. So compared to AHL, you’re right ;)
@@althenimble He sure does love his stretched out foreheads xD I just saw a Hidden Life, wonderful movie. Also forgot to say that your image here is beautiful.
Yo te recomendaría subirlo a tiktok para que puedas darte a conocer y sacarle provecho a tu trabajo, aquí en youtube no será muy promocionado por el extraño algoritmo que es capaz de recomendar basura y no este tipo de videos artísticos.
a minute of silence for all the girlfriends that have to just model for us and never let us down
haha, actually she's just a friend (my wife's friend, actually, lol) - but you're right!
Such a great comment lol.
The color grading is phenomenal!
this camera is so beautiful ..
Fell back in love with the OG, thank you!
What a beautiful imagery and what a beautiful place !!!
Thank you so much!
This colour grading is unreal. Well done! Instant subscribe
Incredible! Really reminds me of Malick
This is really really nice man. More, please!
Appreciate that, thanks! Working on it.
Nothing less than Beautiful. Feels just like his work.
Wow, cheers! Really appreciate it!
Hate these sorts of questions but I was curious too as to your grading process for this. I don't believe there's any way to get Gen 5 color science on this version of the pocket UNLESS you do it in post once you shoot raw but I just don't know if that conversion would be available. I personally use Emotive Color's "P4KALEX" lut as my base on my 4k which essentially give you a Arri rec709 look as a starting point - your footage with the grade looks so wonderful & It looks just like how I would grade it, I find it hard to believe you stuck with the gen 1 color science!
@@NazeerThomasFilm for this one it's pretty simple - I did colour space transform from Film Gen1 to Arri Alexa colour space (seems to hold onto highlights in a pleasant way for me), then used color boost/gamma/gain to get the approximate look I wanted, then the "custom" curve to fine-tune.
So you're right, I guess! Not really sticking with gen 1 science and I like the Arri rec709 look a lot too
@@althenimble hahaa I thought so! Thanks a lot, I was burning to know how you pulled this off, there's a lot of horribly graded vidoes online with the pocket, I figured it had to be as simple as you using the Arri Color Space & then grading from there, it's awesome that we both share the same eye! Eager to see more posts from you in the future
Very good shot 👌🏻 ☀️
color grading is on point here. and telling the subject to touch the flowers is classic malick loll
Beautiful combo right lens on right camera which reminds Steven Spielberg's focal length 21mm
Yeah, that wide look sometimes works really well. Best with natural light and slim actors! I've found also works well at hip height and 2:35 because you get less intense distortion on faces (when you're really close up your not on the face)
This lens would be the equivalent of 15mm on a super-35 sensor
@@althenimble Spielberg uses lens distortion artistically which we can see on his most films so distrotion is not a negative vibe on motion picture if use it correctly 😀
@@arunr4103 For sure, I've found you just have to be aware of what challenges it poses. And of course Malick goes wider than almost anyone else in the industry. In A Hidden Life they even used some 8mm I think!
The angle aperture of this lens doesn't seem to be that wide, it looks like the Sigma 18-35mm (vitrox adapter - bmpcc 4k). I shoot a lot of apartments, houses, I need a lens wide, could anyone help me?
Viltrox turns MFT into approx S35, so that Sigma is like 18mm on S35 as its widest... This is the equivalent of ~15mm on S35. Laowa recently released a 6mm cine, equivalent of 12mm on S35 - very wide! That's as wide as you'll get on the OG BMPCC without going fisheye.
@@althenimble This was the answer I was looking for, thank you so much brother!
What's your tips for exposing? Do you ETTR or do you just keep the histogram right in the middle?
I turned my basic grade into a LUT, then do false colour on my monitor. Look depending, I’ll be going for the standard 70 IRE on the talent. I find for me personally, ETTR makes me too afraid of clipping and I often end up underexposing. Some clipping in the right places is fine as long as the highlights are rolled off nicely, IMO
@@althenimble thanks for you answer! But what adjustments are usually included in your basic grade? I want to try it also.
@@GlennUpgraded just do a grade on a clip that’s well-exposed and broadly representative - ie. mid shot of talent in a high contrast scene. I just do the Arri conversion with a couple of tweaks as mentioned elsewhere in the comments as my starting point. This base LUT shouldn’t “bake in” any exposure compensation to look good (both subjectively and in the scopes) - if it does, you’re using the wrong example clip. For this purpose, i go for a very neutral look, like manufactures aim to when making theirs. Then of course you need a monitor that can load LUTs and do false colour, but that includes many inexpensive options nowadays.
Most importantgrade adjustment for exposure purposes is your contrast curve. You can do that manually or have it as part of a color space conversion and/or an existing LUT
what was your grade process? cause i love this look.
Basically it was convert colour space and gamma into arri, then use the arri Rec709 LUT, then manually tweak the "custom" curve. In my opinion, this camera is really sensitive to correct exposure, i.e dynamic range is good but latitude is not so good (I could be wrong). So the key is really nailing the correct exposure, then the grade is relatively easy
@@althenimble the camera is sensitive 😂 you not wrong about that
We need a tutorial of your color grading process!!
I'll have a go! Might get some free time next month
@@althenimble yes please! I will also wait for the tutorial. 😁
This would be a telephoto lens to Terrence Malick.
Haha, depends one which film you’re referencing. This the equivalent of around ~15-16mm on super 35. TOL is mostly 15-18mm. TTW mostly ~15mm. KOC and STS 12mm-15mm. Then AHL mostly 12mm and occasionally as wide as 8mm. So compared to AHL, you’re right ;)
@@althenimble He sure does love his stretched out foreheads xD I just saw a Hidden Life, wonderful movie. Also forgot to say that your image here is beautiful.
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Is it manual lense?
yes, was just pulling focus on the lens itself no follow focus lol
Yo te recomendaría subirlo a tiktok para que puedas darte a conocer y sacarle provecho a tu trabajo, aquí en youtube no será muy promocionado por el extraño algoritmo que es capaz de recomendar basura y no este tipo de videos artísticos.
Thanks for the suggestion! I've never used TikTok, but I may investigate!