The Only 2 Exciting Cameras In Existence
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 เม.ย. 2023
- There's only 2 cameras right now that were made with heart. Cameras that have a purpose, and were designed with intention. They don't wow you with specs, they wow you with image quality, dynamic range, filmic look. We're talking about the Blackmagic pocket cinema camera original, BMPCC OG. With it's super 16 sized 16:9 2MP sensor with 1080p only. And the Canon C70 with it's 9MP 16:9 sensor designed for video with dual gain output. Honorable mention the Canon C500 II, but it prices itself out of the conversation pretty quick.
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Buy C70, dude
No way you'd be happy with the BMPCC .. Moiree Horror, no Stabe, Screen dark as if it ain't even on already, IR Mess, no slowmotion .. I own it and I love it for learning curve but it's not what you're looking for, believe me ..
You should always make decisions based on what's funniest
My buddy had a psychosis once and that was one of the more brillant ideas he had during that time: Coming up with this simple set of criteria, which boils down to one simple question: "Is it fun or is it lame? "
The BMPCC was definitely ahead of its time.
Saved up & bought 3 BMPCCs, 2 BMCCs 2.5K & 1 BMPC 4K and couldn't be happier. Shoot my entire PBS TV Series with them. Yes, there's quirks with each one of these, but not as bad as anyone told me prior to purchasing them. Will never get rid of them and I'm still working on getting the best image quality out if them. Kingston cards work flawlessly with the BMPCC and Sandisk Ultras for the BMPCC/BMPC. Haven't even touched the DNG Raw yet... and not sure I'll ever use it. The Prores is plenty for me although DNG Raw is incredible, but hungry... and tapping into the velocity settings on my NLE gives me all buttery slow-mo I could ever want. Even at 30fps.
Hey :) same here. My cravings to get a 'better' camera ended when I got myself the BMCC 2.5K & BMPC 4K. Specially BMPC 4K since it has global shutter. Anyone looking to get into 'Cinema' should get these over anything else.
I bought the BMPCC OG around the time it came out. I still have it. I don't plan to sell it. It is possibly one of the greatest cameras ever made. Good luck finding one!
I got one ha ha
Great job on the video! Thanks for making it.
Love your selection. I do have both of these cameras. On the BMPCC OG is use LAOW 7.5mm T2.1 and I love shooting with it.
When I first found you on TH-cam, I didn’t understand what was going on in your videos, now I think I might be your biggest fan.
Black Magic 4K that's the one I'd go for.
3:58 D-tap it... D-tap your Mom! [ROTFL, I can't :)]
I had the occasion to use for a bit the C70 . That C-log 2 is wonderful.
If you can get your hands on a C70 I highly recommend it. I dont think anything can beat the C70 for your home/studio vlogs. Probably not even the C300 or C500 mk2
I have the BMPC4k and the output is really nice. Using it with DaVinci is a pleasure ;)
Thank you for not polluting my TH-cam feed with Shorts!
BMPCC OG! Loved that camera very much... only just passed it on to another. The Panasonic 12-60 f2.8-f4 was excellent on that... and then the Meike T2.2 cinema lenses are great too (currently using on the 4K) 12mm, 16mm and 25mm... the cinema was mine... and I sold it!
If you are willing to put up with the pain of using an OG BMPCC for the image, you might as well give the OG EOS M with magic lantern a go too. It's menu system and settings are insanely annoying to use, but with the the help of Zeek's channel you can get the right settings dialled in. The huge crop factor (in the non pixel-binned modes) combined with the 18-135mm nano usm efs lens, ends up being like a 54-400mm lens and the OIS is so good you can hand hold it. Altho you do need to manual focus, manual expose etc. Also in the wider modes (i would usually use 2.5K FRTP) you cant see the whole frame lol. I can get decent wildlife shots with it, genuinely looks filmic to me, maybe the grain helps, its not a good idea to go above iso200
Great video as ever, you are really funny just a naturally funny guy. You have me in stitches that intro is just class 🤣👍. I bought a Bmpcc original and I love it but I completely understand its limitations. Will von tagen at XLCS designs makes a cage for it now I bought one it’s spot on. Then I have a monitor to put on top with a DC out to power the camera. It works really well and it’s relatively heavy so shots look stable without ibis but no auto focus so that’s the trade off. Keep up the good work man.👍
It would be the dumbest purchase of 2023, but.....
You bring the joy and the cinema to my heart everyday my friend.
I tried buying the original BM camera, but I could never find one at a good price. If you found one, I would buy it, you wont lose any money on it when you go to sell it. I ended up buying a Sigma FP, which is basically the same thing except with a full size sensor.
BMPCC OG. Do it!!!
POUNCE!!! It will be the most frustrating satisfying experience shooting with the BMPCC OG!
He is missing the GH6 HARD!
He definitely is! Lol.. It’s like, the closest thing to perfection that he owned.
I worked in tv editing here in Norway and once we used a original pocket camera with vmount battery, monitor and focus wheel on a little shoulder rig and it looked amazing and lasted forever but the depth of field in your TH-cam studio would not work out you would need the camera further away and a really low f-number lens to blur the background
How blurred out does it need to be? I use the cam with a speedbooster and a 24mm/f2.8 lens (gives about 42mm/f2 equivalent) and it actually works great. At about 80cm distance between my face and the camera the face is sharp and the background is not totally blurred out but nice and creamy.🙂🙂
@@itssoaztek4592speedboosters don't reduce depth of field, they just increase shutter speed latitude
You are the only one that channels a7s iii’s rage properly. What is up with ANOTHER firmware update to the FX3 and Sony completely ignoring the A1 and 7s iii!?!
Sony is holding back the A1 firmware update till Canon announces the R1
2:35 Laowa 10mm f2.0 - thank me later.
Too wide on a regular mft sensor since it's *zero distortion©®™* (the outer parts of the frame look weirdly flattened out like you're playing OG Counterstrike from the 1640s) but with the crop, it looks awesome. It just cuts off the part of the image that looks funky yet it's still pretty wide and with no fish eye distortion. Actually gives you the illusion of full frame when you're focused on something up close. Pretty mind blowing.
My personal go-to wide prime lens.
I'm commenting so this information moves up and can be of use to senpai Casey 😄
"That's a fuji vintage shirt waiting to be ironed." Clearly sig worthy.
C70 all day. That would be the ultimate filming setup.
I look at the Canon C70 every other day. I NEED IT!
Kasey -- that is a most excellent spaceship! Mine is almost the same....
I wanna see you do this (getting the BMPCC). DO IT!😂
I just picked up a Canon C100 Mark ii have been pretty wow'd by it.
The unicorn is the Sirius dog star. Good luck carrying 56 batteries for the day. 800 is a rip off. Get a gh2 with apocalypse now firmware. Scorcesi' s favorite footage ever.
I actually have that on my the😁
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@@rumigeiger you have that on the???
@@unbroken1010 sorry GH2 should have bin in that short sentence.
But it's bin a long while since I used the GH2.
I'm leaning c500 mkll, but I'm not sure it has a flippy screen or a built in "beauty setting" to enhance our life.🤔
D-Tap who what? 😂
Great video as usual. My suggestion is for you to go with the blackmagic 4k.
Yeahhh much love for you.....old boy.............That's it
Is the cinema is ours? Yes it is but only with large format 36:9.5 sensors
I never sold the original. I still use it for talking head shots. The 6k is used for b-roll.
I have the OG BMPCC and some f/.95 Voigtylanders but my wife bought all that stuff for me so I must keep them till one of us dies ...
Please get a BMPCC :D The camera is such a joy! I'm a proud owner of the camera and just love filming with it even though it can be a pain in the ass often times. Stabilization in some way is definitety neccessary and make sure to get one with a cage included because they are hard to find.
For battery life use the Sony NP adapter, and with SD cards the camera is very picky, but the Kingston Canvas Select Plus SD are inexpensive and work perfectly with RAW.
I use the BMPCC 6k in Prores 1080p all the time, best 1080 I've used.
Auto sub, awesome content 👌
Personally, I have an OG 2.5k, and I would highly recommend you looking at the Meike T2.2 lenses. Killer MFT lens that go down to 8mm.
That being said, if I could afford a C70, I’d jump on that wagon in a heartbeat.
But for shorts and features, hard to beat those blackmagic OGs...
I love my BMPCC with all my heart ❤
V mount set up with atomos ninja for my Panasonic s5 Kiki…. Love it! Haha. Runs forever and image is awesome.
I would get the 4k. I'll buy the original just for fun to experiments and if was cheap. I did bought a 5D mark ii, and I love it so far for creativity stuff. But 4k can be sold easily if you don't use it later.
I wish BM would do a 6k pro with IS, flip screen, RF mount so you could use the canon adapters and expand photo settings. the 6k pro does a 20 megapixel still.
What's the best vlogger cell phone? Iphone, Xperia, Pixel, Samsung S23 Ultra or the Xiaomi 12 pro?
I own BMPCC4K and would absolutely sell it for C70. C70 doesnt need external ND, external monitor, external battery or focus puller to function properly in the field. It is also well balanced and works great with gimbals. I love my BMPCC4K, it is cheap and has great colors, but lets be honest - considering everything you need to additionally buy, it is a joke.
You lost Kasey at "gimbal". 😂
Agreed - I shot on the original BMPCC for a while but when I got into pro work I bought a GH5 right away. While the image quality isn’t as good, the camera has great build quality and great ergonomics. It’s a dream to use. The BMPCC is so poorly built I struggle to see anything on the back screen, the battery is unreliable you have to spend money just to rig it out and make it usable.
2.88x crop club right here. I love doing my own colors from filtered B&W channels. The raw files from the BMPCC OG are special and perfect for this. Edit: oh yeah, good luck finding a card that works with this. They are out there, but it's another thing on the pile.
IIRC Kingston still makes cards that work with it.
The screen on the original bmpcc is pretty useless outdoors
We used it on a low budget feature when it came out
The camera operator had to put a low tech eye loupe over the screen, wear an eye patch over his other eye, and sometimes drape a cloth over his head to cut down ambient light because the screen would wash out so much
Otherwise he couldn't tell if he was in focus
Running joke was he looked like a sith lord pirate
Yes its very useless outdoor but you can use an external monitor for that.
@@Abcpii
...which brings us to the next feature: micro hdmi 💩
I still love that thing though.
@@Abcpii yeah the micro hdmi port is that camera's achilles' heel. It's soldered to the main board, if you pull too hard or break something in the port the camera is straight up paperweigth.
How is it going with the BMPCC OG?
Some of the older Blackmagic cameras are a bit finicky when it comes to memory cards. I don't know if the original Pocket Cinema camera suffers from this, but it's something to keep in mind. I did use a Blackmagic Micro Cinema camera for a while and it has the same sensor as the original pocket camera and I believe it's still available (it was recently). But I stopped using it because I didn't like dealing with Cinema DNG raw and the other files were still large and the color was harder to get looking normal.
The Pocket 4K is amazing for a lot of things and the display is 1080p. It's not flippy, but it's the best display I've ever seen on a camera. The interface and touch-screen controls are so intuitive and simple. It's my favorite camera to use and lasts many hours with a V-mount battery. The only reason I stopped using it is because I ended up in situations where I was using two of them, and if I was recording anything that was moving even a little (like an interview subject who kept leaning backward or forward during an interview), I couldn't manually focus both cameras myself, so one angle would always end up out of focus at times. So I needed something with continuous autofocus. Also, once "rigged out" with a V-mount battery, they were a bit heavy and cumbersome. But they produced excellent results quite easily, had great color (in my opinion) had a fantastic display (but not flippy), could record 4K RAW to a cheap SD card, and the fan meant I could (and did) record for hours at a time without issue.
Yes, I can attest that the original bmpcc is a picky little snatch, please excuse my french. Got a 256GB SD for around a hundo, it ticks all the boxes spec-wise but even though it does deliver as advertized, the camera only gives me chopped up chunks of RAW image and one big but incomplete chonk of audio. ProRes is fine though and way less data so 🤷🏻♂️
@@uhuhno6441 Yeah, I had a 256GB Prograde Digital memory card that would even do Cinema DNG in my micro cinema camera. But I had other cards that were just as fast (or faster), but they dropped frames, or just wouldn't be recognized (depending on the card).
Cinema DNG looked great, but it was a touch fiddly to work with (for whatever reason, my computer didn't love transferring over tens of thousands of files at once, lol). So I too mostly used ProRes. I like ProRes, but the colors came out different for me compared to Cinema DNG and took longer to get looking correct. Ultimately, for the my particular use case, I found a Z-Cam E2c a better fit. Small-ish, 10-bit, H265 files recorded onto any SD card or an external SSD worked fine for what I was doing. Of course, if anyone has an application where the camera or subjects have to move very fast at all, just know that the E2c has some of the worst rolling shutter I've ever seen.
@@bigtb1717
Ok, haven't been keeping up to date with the z-cam line up for a while now, might wanna change that. 👌
just think about how much you'd miss out if u didn't take the bmp OG! I almost got it! and there was a deal here in AB but I wanted a FX30
I will not stop withholding the cinema from you. :) I like using the Nikon 24mm f/2 film lens with the .58x speedbooster for a fast standard or the Laowa 6mm f/2 for a fast enough UWA.
Wow, Throwback Thursday! It was like a reenactment of GWB getting a shoe thrown at him.
what if a square sensor for anamorphic lens, hm? how cinema would it be?
I love how you.'re bringing the English language into the 21st Century all by yourself. This is why (some) Canadians are the best. Cute kitty. Just get the C3PO with the R2D2 lens already!!!
The best looking videos you ever shot were on the Nikon Z50.
I use Cine (16) Nikkors on the BMPCC-OG and it is small and great.
Would love to see you try the BMPC4k :)
You can use a regular M43 speedbooster--Canon EF or Nikon--with the OG BMPCC. You don't need the ones designed specifically for the BMPCC
Viltrox makes ones that will work and they're much cheaper than Metabones
Hi Kasey, I’m watching your quest for the perfect camera for years and I was wondering what you are going to ‘do’ with that camera if you found any??
I would love some BM episodes! If you can, please do! Hey, even 6K would still be great (although more $). The 6K footage even produced as 1080 looks better to me than the 4K.
Would be interesting to see you try out the pocket (any model really). Or if you want cinema, get the .. Krasnogorsk 3 :D
Dude get that Blackmagic Pocket. I like the original way more than the 4k. It shoots actual Cinema raw as well as prores so files are giant! If you want another option look into the Micro cinema camera. Same exact sensor. Full size HDMI. Battery is way better. You don’t get to have a screen so you need an external but the thing is the size of a GoPro and shoots 1080/60. And quick note, the Blackmagic OG and Micro sensor have DGO as well. It was never publicized but it’s the Fairchild sensor company which is owned by the same company that makes Arri sensors.
Before even hearing your choice of the two best exciting cameras I will say the best is the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern....hhhaahhee!!!😅
The 4k doesn't do the storing-in-the-pocket very well. The original has more moire in raw than in prores so it needs some vague filter. It also has great lowlight capabilities when combined with a pvs14 lens or neatvideo.
Where can I get that LUT for the Sony!
I only shoot stills and just want to become a decent photographer, at least to my own critical assessment. Since about 9 years now more serious. I still hate most of my shots, even more so now then when I started. Good that nobody told me how hard it will be when I started with it. Dunning-Kruger-curve bottom like forever… I just stick with the modern and vintage micro four looser gear I keep collecting, because it is not the cameras fault and I love Olympus. Your videos resonate a lot with me, because it somehow consoles me to see your barely hidden frustrations with what you want to achieve. The way you present and counter it with humor is ingenious! ❤
That 2.88x crop factor is just brutal though
It's the most painful thing our world has to offer.
Have you ever looked into the Sony PMW F3?
And The Kingston memory cards so far ain’t give me no problem with the OG. Which one did you get?
The Sigma Merrill was made with heart also. I know not a video camera but definitely a stablemate.
Give us good content, happiness to your life, and get all of them!
BMPCC had the perfect sensor. Sadly none of their new models have that much black magic. Unfortunately I already sold mine to someone who can use it to make nicer things than I could. C70 is very interesting too but BRAW and ergonomics won, and thus I chose URSA Broadcast G2.
I still own a Sony NEX-3N and use it about once every year or two as my third or fourth camera angle. It’s great for photos but in video even with a f1.8 prime it is super noisy in “low light”.
here’s a thought the Hasselblad 501 and Mamiya RZ67 Pro II. Each one is one of two perfect photographic cameras.
Hopefully if Camera goods allow us. This year will arrive Panasonic S2H with better rolling shutter then Panasonic S5 II. Glorious Tilt screen and Fan like S1H. That is close to movie camera.
I couldn’t stand the BMPCC the times I played with it.
If you want a 2012 camera, with the cinema, you should get yourself a Red Epic! That was a camera that still holds a place in my heart!
Yes
The OG black magic cinema camera is the best cinematic image out of all of these …… the bmpcc4k looks a bit too soap opera ish…..
you should go with the 2.5K
PBloom got a review
if you end up getting the bmpcc original I'll send you a cage, I have and still use my bmpcc and I have 2 cages, I only need 1.
That would be awesome! vegetablepolice@gmail.com
You see this? I want that cage! lol.
@@cameraconspiracies I've been refreshing my TH-cam page all week and it finally just showed up that you replied lol. I'll gather all the parts tonight and shoot you an email with pics and you can make your choice
@@djmatt1 Ok awesome thanks man!
You had a Panasonic gh6...better more practical that BM or C70..best Stabe....
But looking forward for the comments when you get the other cams...more walking and nature videos...those are the best
Find whats fun for you. And we will like it. I would be interested in gardening chanel where you learn with us and all the indoor growing gear like lights and air rooting. I eat a lot of produce and would love to grow it indoors.
The 6k pro is a Wonderfull camera but the files are huge
Happy birthday 🎉
The Canon c70 it's getting cheaper but on second hand. In Germany saw 1 for 2700 euros and another one for 2900 euros so not a bad price to be honest. But also old Red cameras are going down and they have a very good image quality but needs a lot of accessories.
Love your monologues ❤ your sound just has some weird compression artifacts, especially audible when you hiss, plz fix! 😅
Sony FX30 with the 2.0 firmware, 4kDCI 4096x2160. 6k downsample in UHD mode. Love my Camera.
bmpcc og and bmmcc combo is nasty. :)
Also, they make 3D printed Cage if interested
Casey , a few more one arm push ups and you might be able to grab de Canon Hammer and stop it.
Happy birthday Casey
What camera did you have in your flying saucer? It must have some special sauce to cope with all that spinning, a high fps perhaps but no cinema I suppose.
O that would be fun to see :D I have it but it has quirks that you would hate. Inage is fantastic though. But for vlogging, ehm no :D the preamp is terrible, sounds like a phone from 1920. If you do it it, i highly recommend the laowa 7.5mm (23mm eq) or leica 9mm (27mm eq).
Did you consider the eos m with magic latern?
EOS M raw can't be edited in Davinci.
Maybe something will be released at NAB? (or not).
I shot a short Western film a week after the offered Raw in firmware and I had to just do the math and pray I cut before any shot choked... heck the camera took a spill and the HDMI port broke - I had to use that rear screen - for 85%... it a short called No rest for the Wicked if you look it up on imdb etc... anyway - the DR and IMAGE to this day.... only camera I know that beats its I own is my Red Gemini.
How the hell are you getting away with saying words wrong? I spelled an acronym wrong in my last video and had every armchair Cisco and Ebert in the northern hemisphere coming out of the woodwork to criticize my very existence for it.
I enjoy my BMPCC 6K Pro very much. Since you like 1080p you could theoretically zoom the 6K footage by 3.2x in post (not taking debayering into account). Think of the possibilities! Tiny bug walking on your forehead? Zoom on that thing!
hello is your Leica 200 mm f2.8 still offered?
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Remember the digital bolex ?
I still stick to my old but gold Lumix GH5 😜