Nissan Ariya 63 kWh FWD test drive around Stockholm
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"Fat Leaf" -excellent. I, as an old Leaf owner, appreciate this name ))
Bjorn my man, you're awesome! Honest, authentic, practical and technical in your different topics, reviews and tests...and many more. Your work is pure gold and genuinely helped me buy an electric car years back with real world knowledge of what to expect, best practices and all.
Best of wishes to you man!
This vehicle get my attention.
This vehicle gets me aroused
The drag coefficient is high because the Ariya is quite short for its height and it has the most ground clearance of any EV SUV right now. It's a typical Japanese design, maximum space inside while staying as small as possible on the outside. Reason is, that residential parking space is super scarce in Japan (as it will become in europe more and more). Also, they wanted this car to be able to deal with dirt roads etc, to take away the stigma that EVs are strictly tarmac only vehicles. In return, the Ariya might be the first EV with AWD that you might actually take offroad, and it has more space inside than any other EV of it's length. 1775 liters, that's more than the longer Enyaq even, and way more than ID4, Ioniq5 or EV6. Plus the motor tech Nissan uses in this one is very efficient. Also, the drag coefficient is only one part of the aerodynamic puzzle. It's called COefficient for a reason. The frontal area of the car is also very important. And I feel Nissan struck a good balance here.
Concerning throttle response - kickdown will always be kickdown. So no difference there. But big difference for everything before kickdown.
Concerning AC: You can select the ventilated seats to be non auto. The fan noise and cold air you felt very likely were due to the fact that you had the system on recirc the whole time. I experienced this on a lot of cary. If you run an AC system on recirc for extended periods of time in summer, you'll experience a higher noise floor and you need to set the target temp quite high to stay comfortable.
Concerning launch behaviour: This is by design. Nissan wanted this to be refined and very smooth and they actually put a lot of effort in designing this smooth entrance phase, which can be a bit jerky on a lot of EVs. Personally, I feel the way the Leaf+ rips on the front wheels if you floor it is a bit much (and I LIKE fast cars) and I think a lot of people felt the same way. The small pack Ariya will never be considered sporty anyways. It's quick (also objectively), but this one is supposed to be "calm". I'll go out on a limb and say the sport mode on the e4orce will give you what you are after if a kick in the back is your thing.
Kickdown is a switch for automatic transmissions, that shouldn't apply here.
cd is higher because it doesn't have a coupe shape, retaining the traditional wagon style.
@@Jaredscott89 double nope.
Yeah people always just stuck to the coefficent number...
Your a rock star. Thanks for all your effort in giving us great videos and access to all your data through the years. I have used these facts many times.
Thank you! First Ariya reviewer that didn't just gush over how much they love every single thing about the car. Honest opinion, good and bad, is refreshing.
just watch autogefuhl and see how that works for you
Love the design it looks so nice
One thing for the FWD Being sluggish is on the Nissan global site describing the EESM systems, they said they sacrificed some low end performance to make a better highway speed ratio for the motor
Source?
The Porsche Taycan offers a two speed transmission. Must not be so complicated to implement the same in every EV, I suppose...
@@daltonx6177 I don't think it is a 2 speed system, all the training I have done has mentioned it is a single gear drive unit, primarily geared for highway efficiency though?
@@daltonx6177 2 speed is way over complicated for a ev, not needed, Tesla doesn’t even one to go there. Yes the Germans do
Like the video Bjorn, and especially the Ariya. I had a short drive of a red one at the Fully Charged Show at Farnborough earlier this year. There is much to like about it. However, despite the growth in technology of cars with gadgets and safety systems, there is one thing that is overlooked. The reflections from the dash onto the screen. Personally, I find this very distracting and potentially dangerous. Sitting on the right of the car, the left side of the screen gets the worst of these reflections. One example that happened to me was entering a small village, high trees on the left creating a large dark spot where I could not see the wall, pavement and side of the road. This was on a left bend so no way of seeing up ahead before reaching the dark spot. A cyclist was stopped at the edge of the road and were it not for my quick reactions he would have become an ambulance case, if he was lucky. My thinking is, that along with all the options manufacturers offer, how about a proper non-reflective mat covering the dash. I had one (from the U.S., Covercraft) for my 3 door Fiesta. It reduced reflections by 98%.
It‘s a fat leaf …. You said it 2 times often so now it’s fat leaf for me 😂 I like the reduced interior design. Not too bad for me
the term is "not too shabby" ;)
Nice video you drove through my house! Seems like a nice car.
In Australia it's Green for Go, Yellow is Go Faster and Red is Stop for the Red light Camera. When I was taken by Taxi between Sambawang and Singapore the Red light was just a suggestion.
Only in the nordics 11h50 is late for lunch :D
Driving in my neighborhood, thats cool :D
Nice Arya this is cool bro
In the uk car the sport switch is before the gear stick so u in up hitting that switch so they must not change the layout out much.
At the "jordgubbar" location you were in my neighbourhoods. :)
dude you're so chaotic 😆 but thnx!
Your funny keep up the good work
Looking forward to your tests of this car :) The high effiency but bad drag cooef seems like it was designed for japanese roads.
"fat leaf"
Can't unhear that
Regarding regen going down hill from the hotel. Check the video, you accidently swiched it from "B"-mode to "D"-mode when you left the hotel.
I know. But still. Leaf has no top buffer so even if it was in B mode the regen would still be quite low.
That’s I wanted to say too. You did put the sifter to D.
Hotel Yasuragi, it's a great place to stay 😊
@2:35
Yes but they drive like an EV. The engine is just for charging the battery not connected to the wheels.
So glad with the Ariya. 🙂 Haha so nice to hear words like "Stau", "Tempomat", "Baustelle" and so on. 😁
I like the name ”Fat leaf”. Much more fin like that.
i hope you can save the arm rest position to the seat profile, if not its useless that it can be adjusted by a button press and manual would be easier and faster.
I actually find my 2018 Leaf more comfortable than the Volvo C40 I have untill my Ariya arrives, better seating and steering position in the Leaf, I need to have the steering wheel bit to high so I can see all of the instrumental panel in the Volvo.
Hello Bjorn. Could you let me know what application to use to follow ev info of the car on a smartphone connected icare pro obd2 ? Have a 28kwh Ioniq. Would like to have a small dashboard with temp voltage power etc Regards. I am on Android.
awesome
@39mins the 2.4 is for what the warning parameter is set at. So when tire pressure drops below 2.4 bar threshold the low tire warning will trigger.
Hope new EQT minivan from Mercese will have the big battery from this to be great family long range car:) Ariya is nice but I need sliding doors and 7 seats. ID Buzz is not giving 7 seats in short version so I am rooting for EQT:)
thanks for the video i have just ordered my ariya today mine will be bright red color the same version you are driving now thanks again
It has cooling
Please in which country country are you driving in...
Welcome late to the Party Nissan - great review - the should pay you money for the "Fat leaf" branding :)
I drove it last weekend and its an amazing car so it is I love have the NISSAN Leaf under NHS Lease program but the hp options to own ariiya are very very dear evven with high deposit so I might lease the ariya on nhs when my leaf runs out.
This is a nice car. I really regret though, that they haven't improved battery temperature management on the Leaf, since otherwise it's a brilliant car and a good value for money, too. As for consumption , yesterday I made a 300 km trip with my eNiro, about 100 km on motorways and the rest on regional roads and I also got 135 Wh/km, don't remember the avg speed but I just drove with the traffic, didn't hurry but didn'n sleep behind the wheel either. Good job man, can't wait for the full review.
Leafs being discontinued and needs backwards compatibility with old leafs. Battery cooling would be a huge waste of money on it.
Very nice car. I Wonder how Nissan managed to make the Ariya so efficient?
Congrats on the baby!
300 miles range daaaaang
Cool bro
The hotel is Yasuragi Spa hotel
I've been looking forward to this one for a long time. But the 800-volt K-pop cars with V2L already make it look old-fashioned.
For the uninformed, it might seem that way, yes. Those who know how to build a good, sustainable car will undestand why Nissan made the choices they made here.
@@NameNaameNameeNaamee Can you elaborate?
@@Cosmycal Slower dc charging to help with heat buildup.
I find my self calling the Q4 etron the "qtron" :)
Hi bjorn
Just wondering how the e pedal functions compared to the leaf as I have been informed that it doesn’t bring the car to a complete stop in the Ariya Maybe they should have just called it c mode
It stops you down to around 5 mph then you need to take over. According to PR it's due to people not liking full one pedal driving?????
@@justinbyers7472
Seems like a backwards step to me but I will reserve judgment till I get to try it for my self
@@justinbyers7472 that's crazy. I don't know when I depressed the brake pedal the last time in normal traffic.
Any insight what the G button does on Navi? Switches to Google maps? Also did Nissan comment why they don't do Remote parking outside Japan?
It’s japan and the US.
Curious; When you drive the Ariya on the highway you have to touch the steering wheel to prevent Propilot to disengage, but ProPilot 2.0 is supposed to be hands off highway driving. (when two lanes and separated from meeting traffic). Can you confirm which version were installed on the car you got to drive!?
European Ariya doesn't get Pro Pilot 2.0 sadly :( Probably because this level of autonomous driving was not allowed here until very very recently (no idea who Tesla bribed to offer it here, but at least in Germany it was not allowed). Ariya has Pro Pilot 1.5 like all current Nissan sold over here. So Navi link and all that nice stuff, but hands on the wheel (now capacitive though). You can easily spot it, the japanese and US versions have the scanner for the eyes on the steering wheel collumn and also two shark fin antennas, since PP2.0 uses precise sattelite data as well to improve accuracy.
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I have an ID4.. Not sure if the Ariya is a significant improvement? Worth the trade in? Based on the test drive.
Not available locally to test it myself.
Well it looks a billion times better, so there is that.
Man, people are slow in Sweden, also they drive slowly.
the interface seems similar to the leaf in terms of resetting stuff
Of course, it's an evolution of the software Nissan uses on all of their cars.
@@Cosmycal yeah i drive a 2019 leaf 40 kwh battery
Ariya at 0.297cd isn't too bad, VW rounds the iD4 to 0.28cd, but to get much better than that the shape needs to be more coupe like. Enyaq and X down in that 0.24cd range have the rear end that drops off aiding drag, but increasing egg-like uglyness.
Yes fwd will be more efficient then awd, cost less, less weight, less expensive. Always go fwd, unless your in a snow belt!
why? there is no transmission.
@@slavko321 Weight.
@@Jaredscott89 ok i was wondering why not rwd, but i do drive bmw:) guess there's no not-awd designation.
19:27 Nice review Bjorn. What is the illumination that shows up (on-camera) below the IP when you were in the tunnel. It disappears when you exit the tunnel.
Just decoration.
A little surprised that the Cd is so high, I looks like it should be better than an Ioniq 5 but it’s not. Curious to see how it does on your high speed test.
55 mm taller and 40 mm shorter might be part of the explanation.
It doesn't look like it should be better at all.
Fantastic car!
bak bak bak
Funny to see my city,i live in haninge
For me it'd still be Korean trio > Skoda > Arya > ID.4 > Mustang > everything on the planet > Toyota BZ4X. Not counting Tesla, of course, who remain in a league of their own.
mustang e is terrible, it has all drawback of a muscle car but lack anything nice about ev.
@@hc8714 Sounds about right
The Beefy Leaf
The baby is born, let its name be The Fat Leaf
Screensetup looks like Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes, BMW
They all have the same supplier.
Let it be known everyone copied Mercedes, like always lol
As far as I know, back when Nissan presented the Ariya concept, they were indeed the first to do this.
@@NameNaameNameeNaamee w222 s class launched 2014, I doubt they presented it before then
4.6 miles per kWh conversion. Not bad AT ALL. Wonder how the E-Force dual motor will perform.
Yeah to have big batteries but bad drive train makes no sense
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Hi Bjorn, a question that isn't correlated with the video.
I don't know if you already heard, but here in Italy, near the town of Chiari, the A35 highway company as created a test circuit to test a road that will be capable of wireless charging cars and other vehicles. For the moment the test circuit is a 1km long and is named "L'Arena del futuro". They are test are conducted using a modified Fiat 500e and IVECO bus.
After the test phase, the A35 highway company wants to implement this technology in all the Highway if their competence, starting with a 40km long stretch.
I wanted to ask you, if you can please do a video where you sare with us your opinion about this new technology. Do you think that a technology like this could replace the need for Superfast chargers?
I agree, Bjorn opinion would be very valuable.
Imho it is a great technology demonstration but terrible value proposition.
As Bjorn proved over and over again, 1000 km travels are possible with current fast charge stations.
A35 is already the most expensive toll highway in Italy, no need to increase it more.
The stationary wireless tech Bjorn showed some time ago is much more promising, imagine fitting it with public transport. At each bus stop it charges the bus. This would allow for smaller batteries, more electric buses on the road while keeping infrastructure costs in check.
This electrified highway thing most cost millions of euros per kilometre.
@@theagentsmith I think that the A35 idea was more oriented to heavy vehicle like bus or trucks. They need bigger battery so if you give them a continuous energy source to recharge their batteries, they can avoid to have bigger battery.
Doing so you reduce the resources and the energy required to produce said vehicles, and same goes when you have to recycle their batteries once the reach end ife
e-Pedal, e-Power, e-4orce, e-MotionalDamage
Kick down pedals should disappear. Do the not have a normal pedal in the supply chain?
Kickdown pedals are great, they allow full power even in eco modes and are a very convenient way to override the now mandatory speed limiters
@@danielvanced5526 debunked by Bjorn with the i4
@@Valsiphez uhh, what?
So that wasn’t the lowest trim, which has no HUD or movable center console. I wonder if the acoustic windows are in every trim?
Enameled Sound dampening glass is standard on every Ariya :)
@@justinbyers7472 great news, thanks for the info :)
My bad. I meant lowest "package" which is smallest battery.
@@bjornnyland US gets a "poverty spec" with the big battery which is interesting. The 63KW US model gets more features than the 87 KW base package called the Venture Plus. Big changes are no power center console, no HUD, No power driver seat, cloth seating surfaces, no heated seats or heated steering wheel. You keep Pro Pilot and all the safety features though
@@bjornnyland hey no worries, I guess most viewers understood the car had some extra.
A great test, looking forward the sequel.
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Question asked since the beginning of Mankind 🤣🤣🤣
And turn on 😀
"Sorry, I have so much going on in my head right now..." We know, as you don't comment (curse) on the terrible left lane hugger in front if you 😂
Fat LEAF - hell yeh!
If the car is really that efficient, then it will be worth the wait. Nice to see Nissan improving, because the Leaf was kinda disappointing.
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I was looking at this car but it’s taken too long to be released so got into teslas and got m3LR instead. It might be nice for wifey
Lets wait for winter testing and high speed testing.....Still coldgating..
But you can personally control the pre-heating of the battery as well as enhanced cooling through the infotainment as he said in his last video on the ariya from 2 days ago
@@justinbyers7472 thats what Hyundai also said when Ioniq 5 was released. They lied. So, lets wait and see.
@@otkristo Bjorn said the buttons are already there so fingers crossed they can make sure it isn't broken
Me thinks that drag coefficient is going to hit high speed range heavily. Model Y is .23 vs Arriya .297 ..
The ariya doesn't look a speed racer type, all good.
Hi Bjorn Just give me your opinion between two cars. Kia Ev6 Gt line long range 77.4 kwh vs Kona 64 kwh. Thanks
You get what you pay for.
@@The_Observer72 % 60 tax on mentioned vehicles excluding vat. So the brand is important which one is better for the future.
ev6 man all the way if u can afford it :)
@@ahmetbal6692 EV6
I was hoping that they would bring the hands free autopilot to Europe, like they have in Japan. Also wondering how good the "eForce" thing is.
According to some Japanese reviewers. the handsfree autopilot here in japan is underwhelming. MobileEye based ProPilot2 and SuperCruise, still have low reliability for now
@@Gaijin101 It's actually called ProPilot 2, and yes it's basically the same lane following but you don't have to keep your hand on the wheel. I've experienced it as a passenger and it seemed to work very well for highway driving.
@@kuro68000 This might help: (skip to 10:25 mark if you just want to see results)
th-cam.com/video/MZ-lwmf3xwY/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=EVsmart
@@Gaijin101 Wrong. e-force is awd / 4wd. you are confusing it with "e-power" which is a fossil engine powering the ev-drive train (for example in Nissan Kicks, Note and Qashqai)
@@natulyen Thanks for info :) Edited earlier post.
Does e-4orce have true one pedal driving like Ioniq n Tesla? where it will come to a full stop.
Please call it a fat leaf :D
Heard the Ariya deleted the one pedal drive? Why???
0:15 it says more compact and more POWERFULL. It should say Powerful with one L. 😂
I've already watched the video and I have two questions:
- After all, does the ePedal stop the car completely or not? I couldn't understand.
- The car's 0-100 start does not give a shot like in the leaf?? Is that what you "complained about?"
Regarding the ProPilot it seems a little better, but my expectation was something close to Tesla, but it seems to be something very close to Leaf 🤷🏻♂️
1. Yes, e-Pedal doesn't come to completely stop unlike Leaf.
2. Yes
@@bjornnyland I'm a little disappointed because I love using the epedal in traffic, and the quick starts come in handy in many situations. (besides being fun)
Anyone else notice he was in B mode for most of the test?
th-cam.com/video/equ1wPjeETU/w-d-xo.html
even the Mother truckers!! over taking me now! 😂😂😂 What is your over-all opinion of ariya compared to ID4 and ev6 for example to a first time electric car buyer?
Only one thing that i don’t like is the front wheel drive! Otherwise it looks good.
Ich sah den Innenraum und dachte, es sei ein Kia-Auto.
Hahaha jordgubbar!
My guess, (very) good in low speed (very) bad at high speed.
Actually seems surprisingly efficient at +90 kmh speeds:
th-cam.com/video/AAr8PenqAYM/w-d-xo.html
Sets Aircon to 22c but notes auto fan speed is very high and later on feeling a bit too cold? Why not just set it to 23c or 24c instead to suit but leave fans on auto? Problem solved my man!
Stop assuming. I have of course also set it to 24°C and the fan speed was still high. Or did you also test an Ariya and experience anything else?
Ariya is the best car in its Segment. It is elegant and different looking car. In addition it offers the over the air Updates for the whole car.
Different looking? It just another jelly bean shape.
490 Range ??
Maybe but I have looked your vidéo and you are around 70 /80 km/h maxi
In France we drive faster
It’s Why I ordered one 87 kw version
490 km range is possible in the city/highway mix I drove on this video.
I greatly admire and appreciate your analysis of all new EV that compete with Tesla. You mention all the specs regarding charging speed, etc, etc. BUT,what the all lack is SOFTWARE superiority. My kids will not be able to watch Netflix, etc without Tesla infotainment system, etc! Tesl is still the ☝️.
get them a tablet
This car is killing me. So slow even downhill come on 🤣
Rather have a Tesla for the price range cargo space and oodles of tech.
The equivalent Tesla looks like a blob fish. No thanks.
Can you camp in it
The leaf in its heyday was a groundbreaking affordable car. This isn’t. Shame really.
Nice car, but expensive...
Wayyy too expensive for what it is. Atleast in japan, its about 56k EUR.
Model Y LR here is 51k EUR (3 months waiting time)
Elon refusing HUD makes Tesla a no-buy for me. With that instrumentation a HUD is more necessary that usual.
@@michaell663 To each their own, didnt miss the hud when test driving the model 3 :) Personally, i dont mind paying a little extra for an aftermarket HUD/IC with android/apple integration. Being able to add is more important than not being able to remove.
Mhmm, why FWD and not RWD for the single motor car?
Don't really understand why, especially with the even weight distribution RWD is just superior.
@Sebastian, fwd will always be more efficient, cost less, less complex
Maybe because with FWD the inverter and the rest of power electronics can be put directly on top of the motor with shorter wiring and cooling lines.
@@phileasler5401 Doesn't make much of difference if you don't get a break on the price.