Nissan Ariya 63 kWh FWD highway consumption test

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[@NicoSteinacker]

Only few people get that efficiency is better than higher charging speeds in every regard. Lower cost, better for the environment, less time at slower charger for same distance, less charging infrastructure needed…
Efficiency is king in EV territory.

[@natulyen]

I did not expect that power consumption! Well done, Nissan!

[@FrancescoMeloni]

@bjornnyland your sense of humor is a plus for your videos, it is one of the things it make the view never boring also in a 10 h livestream . thanks

[@Kaffeslaberas]

@@rogerstarkey5390 I think he know what it is, it’s just one of his old jokes. Actually I have seen at least 2 videos from him when he actually used it in his old blue Tesla, when he demonstrated how to do when he emptied his battery 🪫

[@agemmm]

Bjorn, induction motor is by definition asynchronous. Today you have learned that there is a third type of motor called EESM which only BMW and Renault/Nissan use. But it will be used by more EVs in the future. Siemens, Mahle, Continental now offer or are developing EESM motors.

[@oskarzgoa8428]

Yes, I found it also. EESM like Renault Zoe. It has no permanent magnet, but 3p AC stator and DC powered coiled rotor. It has very good efficiency, and didn't need rare earth metals such as neodymium for magnets. Only disadvantage is that rotor needs slip rings on the shaft which will theoretically tear down in time. We will see

[@jasonblair4057]

Looking forward to all the tests on this vehicle. It looks very promising in this early preview.

[@jarmomarkkanen2473]

Great info 👍
Although the weather was warm, the results were pretty impressive. It’s not as good range as in some more expensive cars, but you cannot get everything, do you.

[@dchow007]

Got to test drive a Premier preproduction model today. The test drive was in a closed course but still very impressed with the way the car handles. There is no one pedal driving but the estep works well. The car interior is beautiful. The marketing guy drove it on city streets and freeway (california bay area). The ride was quiet and smooth over the potholes. I was very impressed with the car. We have a tesla model 3 SR+ but will seriously consider buying this when it gets here in November.

[@gzippy]

Would love to see a comparison to the new Niro Ev ⚖

[@Catzeyz]

Did a test drive of the 63kwh version today and we fell in love. After 18 months of looking and being unsure, disagreeing over choices etc., my husband and I are finally in agreement that this will likely be the car we buy. Of course, it isn't all smooth sailing, we both love the car but disagree on whether it is smarter to buy the 63kwh or 87kwh. Hoping you are testing this fully in Norway in the next couple of days to give us some more information, Bjorn, and help solve the first world dilemma we are in!!

[@Scrap-press]

It's an externally exited synchronous motor. It lacks the punch of a pmsm but it can be controlled via software anf therefore be more efficient on motorways and you don't need rare earth magnets.

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt

[@johnnysmile01]

Good efficiency this car that's good

[@rzvqvb]

Very promising! 👍

[@minutemanqvs]

This is excellent news for Renault and all future cars ot the alliance with Nissan as it is the same CMF-EV platform.

[@karlitono]

Yet, Renault refuses to use it for AWD models.

[@dotnetdevni]

CN i ask the fast charging is that thru standard ccs chargers? I currently have a leaf and deciding what to go for when my lease runs out in two years

[@matthewwiemken7293]

Great Efficiency from that Nissan:)

[@FreeMountainTom]

Could be one of the most efficient cars in it's class which is I guess the crossover class of ID4, Ioniq5, Mustang Mach-e, Skoda Enyaq and Model Y. KIA EV6 is a bit lower so I wouldn't take it in. KIA EV6 is more ID3 class (KIA EV6 height 1,55m, ID 3 height 1,57m). Well done so far Nissan. Good first impression.

[@fraserreddick8828]

The EV6 is not in the ID3 class - it is a much bigger car and very comparable to the others listed even if slightly lower (I would call several of them raised hatchbacks rather than crossovers but they all fill the same niche). The efficiency of the Ariya is not looking promising - the smaller battery is of course a lot lighter so will be more efficient, but WLTP figures for the larger battery are poor and drag coefficient is 0.3 which is huge so it will struggle at highway speeds (which is where range is important). The top model is rated at 285 miles which compared to the EV6 (for example) is not great as the EV6 is 300, faster and has a 10kwh smaller battery! Charging time is very poor as well. UK ranges quoted, will vary in other countries. Shame as I like a lot of things about it.

[@djoeneh]

Ev6 is like 40cm longer you goof, its like comparing an audi a4 estate with an audi a3

[@kajko6868]

Unfortunately the EV6 is so ugly that even its mother can not love it 🤮

[@youbencowell]

@@kajko6868 I have got a lot of compliments about my new EV6 even without mentioning the fact I've got a new car!

[@Tron-Jockey]

17.4 kWh/100km (3.57 miles/kWh), wow, not bad for such a large vehicle and much better than the Ford Mach-e. My much lighter and more aerodynamic Nissan Leaf only averages 3.8-4.0 miles/kWh

[@user-fi6ch8nh3g]

Super car!!!

[@ichigo19870]

Gotta say, I used to really dislike Nissan but this interior is really well thought out in my opinion. A lot of other car manufacturers and especially Tesla should have a look at that. Well done Nissan! Still a brand I wouldnt buy but I am really impressed.

[@Tron-Jockey]

17.4 kWh/100km (3.57 miles/kWh), wow, not bad for such a large vehicle and much better than the Ford Mach-e. My much lighter and more aerodynamic Nissan Leaf only averages 3.8-4.0 miles/kWh

[@eddietim]

so 4.1mi/kwh at 60 mph? thats pretty good. wonder how it's efficiency would be at 65-70 mph.

[@Panjangl]

Im surprised it looks so sleek for what it is but its .3

[@mikos772]

Wow who'd a thought it... Go Nissan

[@josepha.p.2639]

2022 Leaf has a drag coef of .29 and Ariya has .297. For comparison Model Y has .23.

[@ruprechtkroenen2665]

4:34 you need a passport holder 😃

[@Macmonkey1000]

Pretty good, better than my leaf I think. Doubt they're using an induction motor as they're pretty wasteful. Synchronous motor using DC through the rotor via slip rings ?

[@bjornnyland]

Nissan told me it's induction motor without any magnets.

[@Macmonkey1000]

@@bjornnyland Externally excited synchronous motor according to an article from a few months ago, maybe Nissan reps aren't very technical or the article was wrong. Renault uses them on zoe so its possible they're going the same route with the Ariya.
The rotor gets a magnetic field via slip rings and brushes, which is a slight disadvantage but it avoids rare earth magnet supply issues and is more efficient than an induction type.

[@MechayaAlta]

What is gross and net capacity of the Leaf sv plus?

[@bjornnyland]

62 and 57 kWh

[@MortenB0]

Yes, I bite on the "better than e-tron" clickbait, but this consumption on a 0.30 drag coefficient car ? Now we wait for the Norwegian results coming in. Can it be close ?

[@Micleg1]

Björn, have you had any chance to charge it yet?

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@callistoscali4344]

Should I trade in my leaf for the ariya?

[@omarbabakarkhail]

Not if you have a 62 kWh version. This barely gets more range. If they have a long range version, then yea.

[@callistoscali4344]

@@omarbabakarkhail I have an SL Plus, which is 62kWh. However, the Ariya coming to the USA is 87kWh.

[@altoclef6688]

From your latter comment I suppose you are in the US. If you were in Europe (most countries anyway) it would be a no-brainer to trade your Leaf in since you only get one-phase AC charging and CHAdeMO fast charging. Since you usually find three-phase supply with lower amps per phase in Europe both of these means "slow charging". Additionally, CHAdeMO means "few chargers and no expansion of the network".
In the US I suppose you have one phase supplies with high amps so you can make use of the full capacity of the OBC, I have no idea of the current or future status of CHAdeMO, so things may look better for the Leaf there.

[@o00scorpion00o]

Is this front wheel drive or RWD ? I hate FWD electrics with a passion, grip is a real issue.
Getting around 380 Kms in my id3.tour 5 not driving slow I would say at 100 Km/hr it could do 450 or more Kms, and Summer in Ireland is not very warm and nights can get to 8 deg C in the height of Summer and it's Windy a lot.

[@NameNaameNameeNaamee]

I hate RWD everything with a passion. Good thing there is AWD, so we can all get along anyways ;)

[@o00scorpion00o]

@@NameNaameNameeNaamee well if you don't have the money for AWD EV then RWD is the next best thing, trying to get grip on damp and wet roads or even dry sometimes with FWD EV is just infuriating.

[@samusaran7317]

@@o00scorpion00o You get it! More predictable handling.

[@timaustin2000]

Colour me impressed. 261 miles from a 63Kwh battery? Dang.

[@bjornnyland]

66 kWh gross capacity

[@beelust4312]

Cannot decide on the VW ID5 or the Nissan EV for Texas driving 🤔?

[@Wasssup3232]

You will be waiting till next year for a chance to get an ariya unless a dealer has one used. All done sending Ariya to the US for now :(

[@guseks8413]

Looks great but Im so sad towing is only 750kg which means I cant buy it. Why could they not make it 1500kg. Kia/Hyundai manages and VW group has atleast 1000kg. :(

[@Micleg1]

AWD will tow 1500 kg.

[@guseks8413]

@@Micleg1 Great!

[@lautoka63]

That's why we bought the Ioniq 5 RWD 72 kWh.

[@ram64man]

That's not exactly hard not only is it missing it's other motor but weight wise it's a quarter of the weight

[@martinhansen6153]

Heh. Stockholm Arlanda exit. Second attempt ;)

[@maeguk1]

Is there something shittier than fat e-tron?

[@TL-xw6fh]

Looks like Tesla need to go back to the drawing board! They are been beaten on efficiency, quality and price by most of the newer competitors. Well done Nissan.

[@bjornnyland]

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[@phathutshedzotshikosi5289]

The baby at start looks like a copy and paste of Bjorn

[@DanielVSL]

What a lovely car, shame about the FWD, otherwise this is nearly perfect for what it is.

[@samusaran7317]

Right?

[@ev.c6]

So, all boomers who bought a fat eTron because of the brand threw money into the trash can? 🤣