hello i just installed a new vp44 injection pump and new filter as the other day truck just quit on the highway so the garage says it needed new injection pump ok so got that done now as i drive the truck down the highway around 80kmh the truck starts bucking like starving for fuel but drives fine at 50 kmh could it be this sensor causing this issue ? its a 2000 dodge ram cummins 3500 5.9 diesel i dont want to be spending piles of money troubleshooting this fix
You going to want to get a good read on the lift pump pressure. Usually when a vehicle starts to buck on the top end, its a result of inadequate fuel supply from the lift pump itself.
Excellent! Just installed a new TPS/APPS on my 03 3500 5-speed. Most difficult part for me was getting the probe properly set, it was simply a matter of gently nudging the APPS to get the .55 after tightening the screes. She's set perfectly, thanks to your great video. One more satisfactory purchase from Thoroughbred.
I haven’t finished the last couple steps of pressing the peddle and so on, but by far one of the best instructional videos I’ve seen. I get confused on the Fluke meters that was the only thing I could suggest is showing the before and after readings. Thank you!
At 7:47 you are having trouble getting the torx screw out. If you will look on the other end, the screw has empty screw hole threads that you can spray some PB Blaster on and let it work a while. Much easier! One of mine was stuck also....
Your video saved the day! Thanks for the detailed explanation and video. Hubby was able to install the part in the parking lot of the dealership where we purchased it while we are in the middle of a 4 state, 17 day trip. Great job! Thank you.
Wade you're the best. If and when I have problems with this truck I dont drive I can always rely on you to make a video to fix it and you do it so even a cave man can do it.
Old video but would a bad or messed up tps sensor cause overdrive to no kick in? It randomly pops a tps code but when I turn the truck off it disappears
I have replaced my sensor before and I had set it to the same voltage as the original sensor. Now that it is going out, I do not remember the voltage from the original sensor. I have this apps from Alliant power, AP63458, on order and am wondering if the .55 +/-.05 VDC is the standard for this Alliant power apps so that I can set it correctly?
Not standard as the potentiometers can be different, but that would be a good starting point. Its not far off. Try .01 volt one way or the other to have it right.
Addenda to video: on a 1999 Dodge diesel, the wires are NOT solid colors. They are striped If you probe the yellow and black striped wire, it is on pin 4 not pin 3. The correct wire is blue and black striped. My new TPS does not have the pins labeled. The old one does...Life is not simple.
I've got an 02 2500 I just replaced the apps with one from a local auto parts store it was $255 got it in and voltage set I'm still throwing a tps code and no more than 5 minutes driving it after install I've got dead pedal again with the apps code
+Kyle Walsh What is the code number that you are getting? Also, the “dead pedal” symptom that you are describing could also me associated with a failing VP44.
Maybe you know the answer to this unique issue I have on my 2005 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins automatic w/overdrive transmission? 196,000 miles. It's the original transmission and motor. All fluids/oils and filters regularly changed and kept clean/new. Not used to tow often...4-5 times a year at most and 8,000 lb loads at most. I've asked 4 tranny shops and a few forums and Facebook groups but no luck finding same problem or proper fix. I'm wondering if I'm just that special?!?? Lol One mild Fall day last year I had driven 260 miles on interstate at about 75-80 mph. It began slowly reducing speed over 6 miles from 80 to 15mph. Moving fuel pedal would not do anything but make it stumble a little a couple dozen RPMs up or down. Stopping and restarting it immediately did not help nor did changing gears manually. All fluids were fine, not too hot and no burning of anything fluid or conduit wire was observed. All looked good under and above it. I stopped it for 30 minutes as I checked it over. It would drive normally after that, but it would only go 25-30 miles before it would slowly slow down again as described above. I did this over many cycles all the way home 260 miles. I'd turn it off and on again, completely off as it rested for 25 minutes. The batteries seemed to be getting charged (started well each time) and no warning lights were on. Once or twice, when I drove it until it would not even crawl anymore (1-2 mph, I was testing it), it stalled. So it wasn't hard starting or hard-stalling unless I took it all the way down to 1-2 mph speed. It was not idling weird either. Could this be an electrical ground failure or electronic issue? If I had a battery connection loose or anything disrupting the flow could it cause this? It seems like something is getting tired and needing to cool down or something but nothing was overly hot or smoking. What's weird to me is it's not slipping in the usual way of revving up but not moving. It would usually get no lower than idle. Tranny shops haven't heard of this before. No transmission codes either. They want to charge me $3,000+ for new or rebuilt tranny. I want to rule out wiring and electronics (that don't throw codes) first. Any suggestions? Heard of this ever before for an automatic transmission? Thanks!
I can't back probe the (yellow?) wire, so I stripped it a little. However, I can't get the voltage to vary by turning the pot! Am I doing something wrong?
What kind of sensor and where is it on a 4th gen 6.7 Cummins, reason I ask is because I have a dead spot the first 7% of throttle movement does nothing....runs great other than that?
Good evening, I changed in my ram 3500 2001 diesel the TPS sensor calibrated at .55 v but in the calibration test it does not exceed 1.99 and it becomes OL and remains dead
Can you tell me what the voltage at full throttle should be set to. I know idle is .55v + or - .05v but what should it be at full throttle? Also my truck is now a fmvb 48re and the computer has be flashed so it thinks it's a manual. Is it looking for different valves now? Do I need the manual apps bracket?
l I having a problems 2006 6.7 3500 Cummins I think it's the throttle or the pedal but it's something similar to this lose power as i step on the pedal??need help!!
We have both the bell crank assemblies for the manual and automatic trucks, I apologize for them not being on the site. Give us a call and we will get you taken care of. 866 737 4966
I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins I'm having an issue where I would be driving The truck And the pedal would get really stiff And I was up the code P2122 So I replaced the sensor and My gas pedal still gets stiff About halfway down and let's go Please someone help me Figure out my problem
The torx screw in front of where the throttle linkage connects adjusts the voltage as well, is there any reason you didn't use it and manually adjusted it by turning the sensor itself before tightening it down?
Those screws actually affect the pedal position. This was an installation of the APPS itself, there was no need to adjust those screws. Also, the sensors mounting holes are slotted for the positioning.
My 1999s batteries died so I charged them and reinstalled them. It started up fine. But as soon as I hit the throttle it went to 3,000 rpms so I cut it off. Tried to reset the apps but it didn't work.
I have an issue where my truck falls on it’s face while driving, thinking it was my Airdog pump going bad I replaced the Airdog with a new pump, that lasted 2 weeks, Guess I should try this next. The only code it’s throwing it a P0837
@@thoroughbreddiesel thanks, that's what l suspected. I went the cheap route this time and only bought the tps and not the whole unit but that didn't fix it this time like it did 6 years ago. Thanks again.
Turn the sensor in the slotted holes while checking your voltage at the same time, once you get the right position, .55 volts, tighten the two screws up so it can't move anymore and there you go.
My cts2 screen went bad on my 99 5.9 so I called thorobred, the guy talked me into buying a cts3. After talking with an edge rep at edge he told me to send it back and that it was not compatible with my present edge, so I sent it back and was deducted 65 dollars to reshelf it, really. WOW THEY'RE HURTING. Never order here guys a bad apple is still a bad apple even when put with fifty good ones and made apple butter. Bad is bad. I went right to edge and he fixed me up with a new one for less than 100 dollars. The original cts3 from thorobred cost around 365 dollars, which should have never been sold to me. Bad apples all around. There are too many other good places to buy from. Amen.
hello i just installed a new vp44 injection pump and new filter as the other day truck just quit on the highway so the garage says it needed new injection pump ok so got that done now as i drive the truck down the highway around 80kmh the truck starts bucking like starving for fuel but drives fine at 50 kmh could it be this sensor causing this issue ? its a 2000 dodge ram cummins 3500 5.9 diesel i dont want to be spending piles of money troubleshooting this fix
You going to want to get a good read on the lift pump pressure. Usually when a vehicle starts to buck on the top end, its a result of inadequate fuel supply from the lift pump itself.
@@thoroughbreddiesel I have a 94 that's falling on it's face also. So could it be tps on it too?
Just did the APPS in our 2003 Cummins followed your instructions and it worked like a charm! Thank you very much for putting this on TH-cam
You're welcome!
I did it! Solo; in about 15 minutes, even with adjusting the voltage. I'm no mechanic, so thanks for the video! So pleased--the part was $35. . . .
Way to go!
Where did you order your part for $35
@@timothyleyva1986 e bay 14.00 dollars
Pierre Beausoleil you have the link ?
Where do you adjust the voltage? I could not tell where the adjustment is taking place?
Excellent!
Just installed a new TPS/APPS on my 03 3500 5-speed. Most difficult part for me was getting the probe properly set, it was simply a matter of gently nudging the APPS to get the .55 after tightening the screes. She's set perfectly, thanks to your great video.
One more satisfactory purchase from Thoroughbred.
You're welcome! Glad it helped!
I haven’t finished the last couple steps of pressing the peddle and so on, but by far one of the best instructional videos I’ve seen. I get confused on the Fluke meters that was the only thing I could suggest is showing the before and after readings. Thank you!
You're welcome and thanks for the tip! Glad to help.
Well, I actually needed this 10 years ago 🤣 Luckily found bad grounds, connections and cleaned battery terminals. Till this day been running good.
At 7:47 you are having trouble getting the torx screw out. If you will look on the other end, the screw has empty screw hole threads that you can spray some PB Blaster on and let it work a while. Much easier! One of mine was stuck also....
Good tip, thanks!
Your video saved the day! Thanks for the detailed explanation and video. Hubby was able to install the part in the parking lot of the dealership where we purchased it while we are in the middle of a 4 state, 17 day trip. Great job! Thank you.
You're welcome!
Wade you're the best. If and when I have problems with this truck I dont drive I can always rely on you to make a video to fix it and you do it so even a cave man can do it.
🍻Thanks!
** you can also use the idle set screw to adjust voltage too as long as there is no play between stop and screw ... get your 5.5. Good Video
Thanks!
Old video but would a bad or messed up tps sensor cause overdrive to no kick in? It randomly pops a tps code but when I turn the truck off it disappears
do you know where is the tps on the 05s? mine don't have the one on the side of the engine block
under battery drivers side.
what about after testing the tps w a scope and meter. it tests good could it still b the tps
I have replaced my sensor before and I had set it to the same voltage as the original sensor. Now that it is going out, I do not remember the voltage from the original sensor. I have this apps from Alliant power, AP63458, on order and am wondering if the .55 +/-.05 VDC is the standard for this Alliant power apps so that I can set it correctly?
Not standard as the potentiometers can be different, but that would be a good starting point. Its not far off. Try .01 volt one way or the other to have it right.
Goodness you went the long way around.
So if I order from you guys I dont have to set it up? Is basically just swapping parts?
I possibly need to order one...
There is some setup involved but we feel this video explains it well.
My 2003 5.9 does not have it in said location in front of the intake elbow. Any idea why? And here could it be?
Transmission will depend on if you have the bell crank sensor or not (and engine output) for the 03-04 trucks.
@@thoroughbreddiesel mine has the NV5600. I think I have found out that the manual trans trucks 03-04 the TPS is under the driver side battery tray.
Addenda to video: on a 1999 Dodge diesel, the wires are NOT solid colors. They are striped If you probe the yellow and black striped wire, it is on pin 4 not pin 3. The correct wire is blue and black striped. My new TPS does not have the pins labeled. The old one does...Life is not simple.
I've got an 02 2500 I just replaced the apps with one from a local auto parts store it was $255 got it in and voltage set I'm still throwing a tps code and no more than 5 minutes driving it after install I've got dead pedal again with the apps code
+Kyle Walsh What is the code number that you are getting? Also, the “dead pedal” symptom that you are describing could also me associated with a failing VP44.
Does setting the potentiometer voltage simply just set the zero throttle idle speed?
You're the Man.
Fixed!
Awesome!!!
I don't have a solid yellow wire. All my wires are striped.
Is it required to set that voltage even on 1999 trucks? Or can we just reset them with the pedal trick?
If you purchase one not on the bracket, the voltage will need to be set.
Maybe you know the answer to this unique issue I have on my 2005 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins automatic w/overdrive transmission? 196,000 miles.
It's the original transmission and motor. All fluids/oils and filters regularly changed and kept clean/new. Not used to tow often...4-5 times a year at most and 8,000 lb loads at most.
I've asked 4 tranny shops and a few forums and Facebook groups but no luck finding same problem or proper fix. I'm wondering if I'm just that special?!?? Lol
One mild Fall day last year I had driven 260 miles on interstate at about 75-80 mph. It began slowly reducing speed over 6 miles from 80 to 15mph. Moving fuel pedal would not do anything but make it stumble a little a couple dozen RPMs up or down. Stopping and restarting it immediately did not help nor did changing gears manually.
All fluids were fine, not too hot and no burning of anything fluid or conduit wire was observed. All looked good under and above it.
I stopped it for 30 minutes as I checked it over. It would drive normally after that, but it would only go 25-30 miles before it would slowly slow down again as described above. I did this over many cycles all the way home 260 miles. I'd turn it off and on again, completely off as it rested for 25 minutes. The batteries seemed to be getting charged (started well each time) and no warning lights were on. Once or twice, when I drove it until it would not even crawl anymore (1-2 mph, I was testing it), it stalled. So it wasn't hard starting or hard-stalling unless I took it all the way down to 1-2 mph speed. It was not idling weird either.
Could this be an electrical ground failure or electronic issue? If I had a battery connection loose or anything disrupting the flow could it cause this? It seems like something is getting tired and needing to cool down or something but nothing was overly hot or smoking. What's weird to me is it's not slipping in the usual way of revving up but not moving. It would usually get no lower than idle.
Tranny shops haven't heard of this before. No transmission codes either. They want to charge me $3,000+ for new or rebuilt tranny. I want to rule out wiring and electronics (that don't throw codes) first.
Any suggestions? Heard of this ever before for an automatic transmission?
Thanks!
I can't back probe the (yellow?) wire, so I stripped it a little. However, I can't get the voltage to vary by turning the pot! Am I doing something wrong?
Possibly wrong wire. Don’t go by color, go by pin position.
@@thoroughbreddiesel Yep. It was the wrong wire!
What kind of sensor and where is it on a 4th gen 6.7 Cummins, reason I ask is because I have a dead spot the first 7% of throttle movement does nothing....runs great other than that?
4th gen is on the throttle itself. If the truck is tuned I would look at tuning.
Do you say the sensor from your website store are set to just replace it and good to go?
Is it normal to have the check engine light after the installation then ?
No. What is the code for and have you cleared it and if so did it come back?
2 codes P0122 and P1693, it was that I didn’t calibrate it so I ordered a timbo sensor and waiting for that to come in thanks for the feed back
I’m getting no read on my apps and I don’t understand!!
You are getting no signal per the scanner or per volt meter? If none by volt meter need to check in coming power and ground.
Good evening, I changed in my ram 3500 2001 diesel the TPS sensor calibrated at .55 v but in the calibration test it does not exceed 1.99 and it becomes OL and remains dead
Thanks, it showed very well, and I was able to do it
You're welcome!
Can you tell me what the voltage at full throttle should be set to. I know idle is .55v + or - .05v but what should it be at full throttle? Also my truck is now a fmvb 48re and the computer has be flashed so it thinks it's a manual. Is it looking for different valves now? Do I need the manual apps bracket?
I actually do not know the voltage at full throttle. It’s something that I would be interested in learning. Give us a call and we can compare notes.
How much do you know about swapping these engines?
l I having a problems 2006 6.7 3500 Cummins I think it's the throttle or the pedal but it's something similar to this lose power as i step on the pedal??need help!!
Trying to find the bell crank assembly to buy.
We have both the bell crank assemblies for the manual and automatic trucks, I apologize for them not being on the site. Give us a call and we will get you taken care of. 866 737 4966
I have a 2004 Dodge Cummins I'm having an issue where I would be driving The truck And the pedal would get really stiff And I was up the code P2122 So I replaced the sensor and My gas pedal still gets stiff About halfway down and let's go Please someone help me Figure out my problem
It sounds like there is something in the mechanics of the pedal assembly itself.
The torx screw in front of where the throttle linkage connects adjusts the voltage as well, is there any reason you didn't use it and manually adjusted it by turning the sensor itself before tightening it down?
Those screws actually affect the pedal position. This was an installation of the APPS itself, there was no need to adjust those screws. Also, the sensors mounting holes are slotted for the positioning.
So I installed a new APP S and I can't get it to adjust out to 5.5?
It's supposed to be .55
My 1999s batteries died so I charged them and reinstalled them. It started up fine. But as soon as I hit the throttle it went to 3,000 rpms so I cut it off. Tried to reset the apps but it didn't work.
still looking for 3rd gen 06? any ideas
Yes I have a 2006 5.9 Cummins $2000.00 606-584-2186 leave message if no answer.
I have an issue where my truck falls on it’s face while driving, thinking it was my Airdog pump going bad I replaced the Airdog with a new pump, that lasted 2 weeks,
Guess I should try this next. The only code it’s throwing it a P0837
my truck only has idle and wide open throttle as soon as you touch the pedal.1998 Dodge ram 2500 Cummins. Any info would be appreciated, thanks.
ECM. Pretty common symptom of ECM on VP trucks.
@@thoroughbreddiesel thanks, that's what l suspected. I went the cheap route this time and only bought the tps and not the whole unit but that didn't fix it this time like it did 6 years ago. Thanks again.
I have an 04 but I DO NOT have it and cannot locate it
Under driver's side battery box
Not at all clear what the fellow did to adjust the voltage to 0.55; what was turned to make the adjustment?
Yes
Turn the sensor in the slotted holes while checking your voltage at the same time, once you get the right position, .55 volts, tighten the two screws up so it can't move anymore and there you go.
I don't have a yellow wire
Men doesn't throw a code, just loss of pow when attempting to accelerate, truck idles fine& doesn't go dead.
My cts2 screen went bad on my 99 5.9 so I called thorobred, the guy talked me into buying a cts3. After talking with an edge rep at edge he told me to send it back and that it was not compatible with my present edge, so I sent it back and was deducted 65 dollars to reshelf it, really. WOW THEY'RE HURTING.
Never order here guys a bad apple is still a bad apple even when put with fifty good ones and made apple butter. Bad is bad. I went right to edge and he fixed me up with a new one for less than 100 dollars. The original cts3 from thorobred cost around 365 dollars, which should have never been sold to me.
Bad apples all around.
There are too many other good places to buy from. Amen.
Now, how to clear the codes. . . .? TH-cam search
thanks sir good video help a lot
Jose Valenciano Glad it helped you out.