What If The Gunpowder Plot Succeeded? | Alternate History
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- What If Guy Fawkes Was Never Discovered During The Night Of The Gunpowder Treason, And Succeeded In Eliminating King James Of England?
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Monsieur Z which one
W h e e z e. Please i don't have much more cum in my body
FYI... The main river through London is pronounced the River Tems...
@@Lukdnuke_Narson The one in 1700 I think. Oh wait...
@@tinglestingles Do I sound like I live in Britain?
What if the Mongols discovered America by going through Russia into Alaska?
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What if the British Celts defeated the Anglo Saxons?
What if Attila the Hun didn't die early?
What if the First Earth Battalion was fully embraced by the U.S. military?
"What if the British Celts defeated the Anglo Saxons?"
This one's my favourite candidate.
Anglo Saxons too strong
@@thebrutusmars i agree
Absolutely based
What if Joanie hated Chachi
What if Operation Bay of Pigs success?
What if Russia stormed to France during the Napoleonic war?
What if Stalingrad, Leningrad, and Moscow has fallen by Germans?
What if Mongolian army success to invade Japan?
"What if operation bay of pigs succeed?"
As a cuban that is my favorite topic right there
The Bay of Pigs did succeed but it was a body double of Castro that was killed and the American invaders were sent to Vorkuta to be brainwashed.
@@youtublife4540he did it
"Is it the Fifth of November 'cause I'm on fire!" -Guy Fawkes
Nice ERB reference
What if the Germany Didn’t send the Zimmerman telegraph to Mexico?
I have to wait 90 days to change my name That will be great!
I have to wait 90 days to change my name This is just me but I would think the USA wouldn’t join the war, which might’ve caused it to last longer.
Interessting Idea
In a Nutshell Germany would have won had the us not joined because the transfer of the eastern front (because of the Russia peace treaty) was combated by the US sending One and a half million men. Without whom the Germans would have captured Paris marking perhaps its destruction (battle of Paris) and the end of the war.
leonard Langner I didn’t say they would lose I just said it would end in it lasting longer than it did in our timeline
What if Lenin’s assassination attempt actually succeeded, (By that when that lady shot him) how would it change the Russian Civil War? And who would take over would it be Stalin or Trotsky?
Trotsky could possibly take power is Stalin hadn't consolidated support by then. Interesting idea!
Ten times better then extra credit
1. What if the Hungarian Revolution of 1848 was successful?
2. What if the Irish Rebellion of 1798 was successful?
3. What if France won the Italian wars?
Expect choice 2 this Friday.
@@MonsieurDean I'll be waiting.
Please make a videos on What if Korean Empire survived and What if USA won the Vietnam War?
I like that idea, but will need to research it more before I can decide if I'll cover it.
If America did 'Win' Vietnam. Then, Vietnam wouldn't be Communist.
Remember, remember the fifth of November
Constantin Becker Gunpowder, treason and plot. I see no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot.
Remember remember the forth of Northumber.
What if Monsieur Z didn't pronounce Thames like that?
What if the Stans were united as one stan
"we'll call it stan"
Big daddy stan
Avery The Cuban-American you’re everywhere.
Big MoMA Stan
@@goodluckgorsky3413 India is also knows as Hindustan so India would also be included.
The River Thames is pronounced more like 'Tems'. It is not a Th sound at all.
But not in New London, Connecticut, where the local river is called the Thames with the "th" pronounced as written.
@@uptonsavoie That is interesting to know!! Although he should still pronounce the OG Thames in the British way
@@uptonsavoie Note how it's "New" London. Like Henry said, he should've still put the extra effort to pronounce what is quite an easy thing to learn. It's not like we're asking him to pronounce some obscure central African tribe :P.
Agreed.
The h was added later in history so it originally would have been written something like Tames. Also in England lots of 'a' sounds are pronounced more like 'e' as is the case with England itslef (Englend), as a result we get our lovely Thames!
What if apollo 11 failed by crashing on the moon
Real interesting concept.
@@MonsieurDean Nixon would give his best speech, if so.
Holy Shit I never thought of that. That's a brilliant alternate history.
What do you mean? We never reached the moon.
@@joshuaearlsumbillo25 What do you mean? We did reach the moon, stop believing in those nonsensical conspiracy theories, they're indoctrinating you to believe lies.
What if Henry the VIII never split the church?
What is Martin Luther tripped and broke his neck before he started the reformation?
What if the war War of 1812 never happend.
What if the Quasi War escalated. (But I am already working on that.)
Edit: I have released that video.
@@icaricc Working on the "What if Henry the VII never split the Church right now.
@@warrenlehmkuhleii8472did you
In 1604 They began translating the King James Version of the Bible. It took 7 years and was completed in 1611. If the Gunpowder Plot was successful, do you think we may have never received that particular Bible? Do you think that would've had an effect on Protestant Christianity today? Great channel! Great video!
What would happen if the Jacobites won the Glorious Revolution?
What would happen if Elisabeth I of England had children?
What would happen if Miguel I of Portugal won the Portuguese Civil War?
What if the Principality of Wales defeated England in 1283 and conquered England?
What if Mary I of England had a child?
Make a video on what if Patrick Buchanan won the presidential election of 1992?
I've been wanting to, but keep getting sidetracked with other things. I'll get to it soon enough.
What if emperor nero lived
what if england stayed Roman
what if Germany kept it's monarchy after ww1
England stayed Roman not Britain
@@JC-xz2gv a mistake
Kevin Hixson good good
Greetings from Brazil!!!
Thanks for reminding me of V is for vendetta. Had a nice time watching it!
(Btw The video was good as always!)
0:52 Thought you were talking about James Charles for a sec
nice clear photos
A critical point of the plot is that it began implementation a year after King James authorized a new translation of the Bible into English, which we know today as the King James Version, God's inspired Word in the English language. if the plot had succeeded, the translation commission would've fallen apart.
Nice video mate.
Thanks pal.
@@MonsieurDean Big fan from the Midlands mate, very big fan.
3:10 - haha. “River Thaims”
What if these alternate timelines became part of our world creating new continents and countries.
@Trini Player67 it will be a very good game
*Guy Fawkes Intensifies*
As a communist it must really hurt
That your face has been cheapened, weakened, besmirched
Being plastered on posters, coasters, and shirts
Making capitalists rich off of you on merch
Right, I'm a pious man and I fight for the lord
I would cut you but I don't want your sweat on my sword
I was tortured until I could hardly sign my name
And listening to you felt pretty much the same (oooh!)
Face it Ernesto, you're Castro but less so
He's Cuba Commander you're more of a Destro
Revolt all you want I don't give two Guy Fawkes
But look at Venezuela what you're fighting for sucks
You are wrong in your description of Henry’s attitude to Protestantism andCatholicism. Henry VIII was not only not a supporter of the Reformation, having written an attack on Luther and his arguments and having been given the title “Defender of the Faith” by the Pope, a title the present day Queen still holds, but was not dissatisfied with Catholicism. He always considered himself to be a follower of the doctrines and dogma of the Church; he merely replaced the pope as head of the Church, within England, with himself by the Act of Supremacy of 1534, thereby creating the denomination of Henrician Catholics, indistinguishable from Roman Catholics except regarding the identity of the head of the Church. Eventually this led to the establishment of the Church of England, but this was never Henry’s intention and it did not happen during his reign. That really took place during the reign of his son, Edward VI, probably under the influence of his uncle, Thomas Seymour. By the time of Mary Tudor, Edward’s successor, England was predominantly Protestant.
Thanks for the correction!
The Dutch republic wouldnt have existed without English help.
The Danish would have wanted some Dutch lands and the Austrian Habsburgs would wanted all the Italian penninsula and also the low countries.
And the Habsburgs would have created the Habsburg Roman empire!
I know right especially since the Dutch didn't have the man power. I think england would still be a colonizing power but sided with the Hapsburg Spain and Austria because that's who Mary queen of Scotts rooted for, and Spain was officially the protector of the Roman Catholic Church.
Remember, Remember the fifth of November.
Things are going go... *BOOM.*
I’m confused as to why on one of the maps the Dutch Empire claims Florida as their own? Seems like Scotland’s American colonies would struggle with both a Dutch New York on one side, and a Dutch Florida on the other. I assume France would’ve gotten Florida because the Huguenot settlements.
What if king Philip II managed to assassinate Queen Elizabeth II?
Also, its Thames (Tems) and not Thames (Thames)
The English language, where if you think it makes sense, you're wrong
Queen Elizabeth the first, I think you mean.
@@Pebble3007 yeah. i was about to say. when i read it and it said i thought prince philip tries to kill her.
Freddie Harris what
Can you make a video of what if Ross Perot became President?
I seriously should.
the dutch occupying new york as new amsterdam?
you mean, keeping new amsterdam as it's colony thus this never becomes NY
I’m curious as to why there are 2 “What if the French Revolution never happened” videos with slightly different scenarios on your channel?
One is a remake.
2:40 - 2:55 because of disagreements within the circle of conspirators and the expansion of the group to include less zealous supporters, information of the plot eventually leaked out to King James warning him not to attend the opening session of Parliament and it was because of this that he ordered the extra security patrols which eventually discovered Guy Fawkes.
2:55 - 3:30 in this alternate world that letter is never read by King James, there were numerous opportunities for it to have been intercepted, destroyed, lost and simply ignored by the king. In this timeline that's precisely what happens on November 5th Guy Fawkes lights the fuse and escapes on horseback crossing the River Thames while revolts in the Midlands distracts from the conspirators capturing the King's son and daughter. Fawkes tasked with informing the papacy and international catholic powers of the events unfolding to earn their cause legitimacy while domestically the conspirators reassert order through mechanisms of governments granting Henry Percy authority as well as through the direct support of the Catholic population.
3:30 - 4:11 Catholicism is restored to England and history becomes far unlike that of our world, with King James and essentially his entire order wiped out, so goes all that he would have set in motion and just so happens that would include the significant plantation of Northern Ireland and the colonization of the Americans, it was under James that the region of Ireland known as Ulster began seeing settlement by British citizens setting in motion the demographic shift that would drive Ireland time and time again to rebel and revolt against the Protestant English in this world, no such movement is pushed forward except for the territories already settled by independent individuals and organizations without protection from the King in the English government, the Catholic Irish would see to the driving out of these settlers and reasserting dominance over the island.
4:11 - This world never sees the Anglo-ization of Ulster leaving it a great hub of Gaelic culture though this of course means development comes much more slowly and the whole of the island remains agrarian for the time being
What if the Jametown Colony was taken by Spain?
What if the Vietnam War never happened, or somehow excused into World War 3?
Remember, Remember the 5th of November...
Wait a minuet this seems a little early
me: it's v for vendetta!
monsieur z: well yes, but actually no
*F I N A L L Y*
What if the polish army was defeated in the siege of Warsaw and lost the Soviet-Polish war of 1919?
Then, Poland would be the welcome matt of Europe. The Soviets would steam roll the Whiner Republic, and a Weaken France, and Britain wouldn't be able to stop the slow, but steady Soviet War machine.
Frist Name Last Name a very interesting scenario don’t you think?
Is it just me or is the Video somewhat silent?
Love your vids dude! But You got to do something about your sound, your voice keeps getting lower causing me to have to amp the volume to hear you. Its been that way in the past few videos to. No other videos seem to have this problem, just your channel.
(2:08) And not Guy Fawkes? The guy we heard so much about at school? If Robert Catesby is the leader of the Gunpowder Plot then so be it.
Hey Mr Z, ever thought about doing a video on the Jacobites winning the war? Or the Spanish armada winning?
So let me get this straight…. If guy Fawkes succeeded there possibly would have never been a United States?
good video but can you do a what if the German coup took place during the Sudetenland Crisis before WW2
Can you do what if the Spartacus Uprising succeeded
We just did the gunpowder plot in history and I kept thinking about this scenario. It all couldve been avoided if people were more tolerant haha
Finally!
If the gunpowder had gone off it would have been like 9 /11 in Stuart times, Westminster would have been so badly destroyed the modern building and structures like the tube lines or sewers could not have been built.
You should call Bonfire Night or Guy Fawkes Night, 5/11or 11/5 if you're American.
The map at 6:40 I reckon Scotland should have gained Wales due to their similar culture
I don't know about all this, I've seen it posited by British historians who say that even if the bomb had gone off, the Catholics were too small in number, and the backlash against the senseless bloodshed would have been too great to have seized control, and that likely all that would have happend was retaliation against the Catholic and their complete Inhalation from the Great Britain
There really is a parallel universe where Fox succeeded.
Sadly not posted on the 5th of November, for we will remember that fifth of November, For Gunpower, Treason, and Plot. For us as Historians and Alt Historians will never forget, for there is no reason
Scotland was Protestant and had its own parliament at the time, since both kingdoms had the same king Scotland would have conquered England and placed the Protestant heir on the throne. In short the Scottish would have lead the British empire not the English
@A F Stuart’s were Scottish and the English Protestant would back them over the catholics
Guy tries to Kill James Charles (Stuart)
Is there any possibility of you doing a double-blind what if?
Letter: The bombs are planted in the Parliament.
Guy: Geez, can anyone get that letter?
King James: Can't let you do that Guy Fawkes!
Great video and depressing
What if Islam won battle of tours?
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The topic: British
The name: French
The man: American
The pronunciation of “Thames”: irredeemably incorrect
Hey monsieur z I have I great idea for video! What if Stalin live 10 years more? In this universe Stalin never dead in 1953 but in 1963.
The video being basically if that terrorism plot had succeeded.
Ohh if only it had. My country would not have been torn apart to the extent see are still seeing now.
4:22 - Jamestown named so after King James is never established as the first permanent English colony in America and with the government in the midst of a Reformation aswell as picking up the scraps of political machinery, colonization may not become a major priority for some time, additionally James was instrumental in the pursuit of a deeper union between the reals of the British Isles without him laying the foundations for unity, England, Scotland, Ireland likely remain divided lands for a longer stretch of time and in that time developed diverging identities, Scotland likley pursuing allegiance with France to further support its own ambitions of colonization the region of the Carolinas while an Ireland independent advancement and the survival of Gaelic culture ensures the region remains distinct enough from England to avert any willing attempts at Union. England is forced into a defensive position there were many competitors abroad who would have liked to take advantage of this momentary disorder and England's best course of action would be to temporarily withdraw itself to regain its footing then afterwards establish close ties with a friendly Catholic power. Pratt's restoring relations with Spains to benefit from their significant trade empire which would fare better in this world though likely still collapsed safe for some additional colonies in Central America, in absense of England and the British Empire, the Dutch trade empire rises to fill the role occupying the territory of New York as New Amsterdam aswell as securing the Cape Colony and large coastal ports along India, England in the years following the political shift and the Ascension of Elizabeth would adopt a more absolutist monarchy akin to what was seen in other Catholic kingdoms and while more power is investment to the monarch this new order may actually serve to briefly avert the English Civil War which had been triggered by King James's son and overbearing and reckless leader who tended to stretch the limits of his power, although that's not to say the English Civil War would be averted entirely, populations will tend to follow an absolute monarch so long as they're at the very least capable of bringing a fair amount of prosperity as the saying goes no one will rebel if it's more comfortable not to do so, however if Elizabeth's successors had fcome through the same pitfalls of James's successor then disaster is likely to reemerge for the nation soon stoking the intervention of a neighboring Catholic power such as France who may seize upon the opportunity to make of England a protectorate or Dominion for the sake of maintaining order, lightly doing so with the support of allied Scotland and as Spains power wanes, so will the two be set up to assume the new role of Chief European power and trade captains existing in regular rivalry with the Dutch trade empire. Overall in an attempt to resore Catholic authority to England the conspirators of the Gunpowder Plot would have inadvertently set England back at a time which would have been its most crucial steps toward achieving the status of an international empire and in that time allowed others to fill the space as it had left behind, by the time England would have had the chance to catch up it may well ahve been far too late if we were to assume the succession line following Elizabeth maintaining dominant authority without triggering a revolutionary civil war. England would still find itself surrounded by competitors, rivals and enemies, be it the Dutch, the Irish, the Scots or the French and though it may still carve out a new path for itself regardless of where and how that might be, there's no escaping the fact that it would be a significant reduction of the potential it once held and that is well in this video for now.
Best timeline
What if France became a protestant country around the 16th or 17th century?
Remember, remember the 5th of November
Are you cody from the alternate history hub and knowledge hub
Maybe.
United Ireland YES
You'll be excited for this Friday's video.
*Waves Tricolour vigorously*
Hey @monsierZ you should do what if Pablo Escobar won the Colombian presidency
>river fames
ye nah that's no good fam
What if Arabs won at Siege of Constantinople in 718?
What if Axis won the Second Battle of El Alamein?
What if Spain joined WW1 on Central Powers side?
What if USA won the War in 1812?
Remember Remember, the 5th of November.....
Also can you do what if the Ottoman Empire survived after World war 1
Remember remember the 5th of November...
If the plot succeeded it would most likely lead to maybe a England or in the worst case scenario a war in Europe
Anyone else here from ERB?
Remember, remember the 5th of November....
Ok hear me out, what if? *Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile was a Prussia colony instead of a Spanish one?*
Oliver Hugaas *150% Discipline and Argentine Stronk*
What if the Britsh Isles never existed?
VERY fascinating concept.
What if the German Revolution of 1848 succeded
Your videos are rly quiet, could you turn them up please?
(1:54) Guess that isn't King James I
Gun powder? I think you mean Dragonfyre.
What if Denmark won The Second Schleswig War? Would it not lead to a war of 1871 and no united Germany? And maybe Prussia collapse?
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
0:48 hey sisters
b i g n e t h e r l a n d s
Can we get a part 2
Maybe a lasting union with the dutch instead lik in our world were it died without an heir.
Can you explain what it means to "support your legion"?
What if the Netherlands managed to stay out of WWII ?
Remember, Remember...
'James Charles' hehe
Guy fawkes masks would probably have a different meaning. It might become a symbol of religious freedom or holy war rather than of political resistance
Se que te estan llenando la caja de comentarios Con ideas,pero aun así te quiero contar mi idea.
Que tal si Argentina fuera sindicalista?