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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ย. 2022
- (Sorry to announce a delay in the release. COVID in China has forced a shutdown there. Please give us a bit of time to re-adjust. Thanks)
Trying to answer all questions in this video about the new products that I am very excited about.
Vz-HextrudORT: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DnK...
Goliath: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DDP...
For a list of resellers: github.com/VzBoT3D/Goliath/tr...
KUDOS to both MirageC and Mihai design on their printing artifacts video from the extruder. Take a look at those videos:
Miragec: • Extrusion Quality - My...
MihaiDesign: • What I've learned abou... and • The intertwined waves ...
-Eibos filament dryer: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dc7...
-Water Kit : s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dex...
-Bozzle Nozzle for abrasive: northprint3d.ca/product/tungs...
-3d Printer main board: Fly Super 8: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A8mOXD
-External 5160 PRo Drivers : s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AFDBtp
-CNC parts: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_De1...
-CNC parts: f3d-racing-fdm.myshopify.com/...
If you wish to support: ko-fi.com/vez3d
Full VzBoT Printer project: (BOM, cad, stl): github.com/VzBot3D/
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It's mindblowing to me that some guys in a basement can develop such a product. Amazing! Congrats! :D
What I have learned is that nothing is impossibe
Have you never heard about L96A1 (AWM/AWP)? Whole British military program for new sniper rifle in 1980s start as "three quys in a shed".
I hadn't, but it sounds like a great accomplishment
@@Alyxif This was my first thought when I read this comment.
@@santiagoblandon3022 they literally rented a manufacturing shop to “fake” having production and professionalism in order to get the government contract.
congrats for the progress! love the engineering that went into it!
Man, you really can be proud of yourself and what you've reached. Congratulations mate!
Awesome! I remember being here when there was only 100 subscribers. I am always so excited to see each new video. You've done quite a lot!
Really like the minimalism you put into both parts: simply beautiful 👍
Looks like I'll be waiting for the final release of the Goliath, but that extruder is... Wow. I want that now.
You just blew my mind with having the extruder be the heatsink for the hotend, that's crazy! I hope to upgrade my V-Core with this setup soon.
Hey Simon congratulations on the up coming realeases! and a big thank you for the vzbot printer design, I love mine it prints great. 🙂
the extruder looks really, really nice. it is something that i wished for a long time. MirageC really did a good job finding out & proving the root issues.
Congratulations my friend! I have been looking forward to launch day so much, nearly here!
Congratulations on the milestone cant wait to try it!
Looking really good. Man I'm so proud of how far you've come, keep it up!!
Can't wait to test both of these! Great job Vez!
Very nice to see progress with MirageC little extruder, I love that design. Been telling about that gear off centering problem for probably 2 years now lol. I even machined myself custom gears. It is crazy how they are stil not present on a market! I would personally do a smaller groove on it, as I made on my gears, this will help to center filament better. This groove on your sample looks a bit wide at least from a video perspective. It can be narrowed down to nearly 2mm in width actually. Mines are and they work great. Took me forever to machine them though lol.
This is VERY impressive, Vez. Well done!
I love everything about those gears, and the hotend looks so cool! Awesome! 🥳 I should try them one day.
there is a part of you in there buddy ;)
Amazing design that fixes so many of the problems that my extruders have. I am considering upgrading my printers with this extruder. Congrats
Amazing. Beautiful work. At this point, I am looking forward to buying a full VzBot kit. Please take your time, and then take my money😊
will definitely get the HextrudORT, great work man!
Your work is amazing. Love it so much. Keep pushing 💪
I want both for my 330 😍 Awesome work Simon, Vz Group and Mellow. 👍
Giving me upgrade ideas. My wallet is hurting but I am smiling. Love both designs!
Outstanding work. I'll patiently wait for the directly water cooled extruder version, eliminating the extra height. Keep up the good work!
mee too i needed it shorter now it's defiantly going to fit i may get 2... great idea eliminate parts love it!
Congrats, Vez! You really earned it!
Amazing stuff! Are those gears compatible with other extruders that would normally take BMG parts? If so: are you planning on selling them individually?
Great job Simon!
Absaloutley outstanding man props to yiu guys
BTW, this metal extruder should be better in the light of what MirageC made a video about recently, especially the dimentional stability of idler's axis. I'm very keen to try myself!
Those gears alone are simply brilliant, well done mate. It's amazing to see this all graduate from the home workshop to production. Will those fancy gears be available on their own? I can see the community going crazy retrofitting these into various extruders with bondtech gears.
Shaft is smaller in lenght over the bmg ..so to retrofit it it would need a design change on housing of those extruders. But yes. We will sell them apart when we can. Dificult situation now China with covid lock down stopping us from doing anything at the moment
Awesome work mate!!
oooo! id love to see that extruder's print quality!! might have to buy one :)
Wow, innovative gears on the hextrudORT. That's real innovative man! Will mellow sell those separately possibly? I would be interested in a clockwork-2 BMG compatible replacement.
I'm super close to deciding to try this. What other hotends would bolt right up to it? Dragon?
I won’t forget how my jaw dropped when you mentioned you’re not an engineer.
So excited for your next stuff !!
to me an engineer is a person who engineers stuff :P
Preach !
Very cool product .. im all in for this build. The 3d printing stuff evolves so quickly those days. Its good but i know that once i finished a printer the next big thing is already there at the door 😅
Great work brother 👍🏼
im so sold on the vzbot and you never tried to sell it ! now i want the Goliath & Vz-HextrudORT !
impressive ! really good job
Love the extruder design. Can we get some notification when it becomes available?
That's so coooool~
Great job!! You must be proud of your self.
Do you have any plans for standerd flow version of Goliath?
I hope you also sell the twirly gears separately. I would love to rest them in other DIY extruders
Congratulations for the hotend! Beast🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘😁🤘
Congrats - great achievement
you created incredible !farewell~🙌
awesome! do you have those gears sold separately?
Awesome engineering!
Do you know when you'll have more in stock? Looking forward to buying one but I checked and it's out of stock on melow. Also would this fit on an eva 2 carriage? I have a v minion and would like to try this out.
Thanks great work keep it up!
As soon as covid lock down is over in china
i like this Combo nice machininng + design
It just amazing 😍
Hi Vez! Just ordered your hotend WCooled. My big respects to you as you push the FDM tech forward.
Can't find anywhere info if BTT octopus pro will handle 100W hotend. Have you heard anything about it?
Awsome man!! Will the VzHextrudrt parts be for sale separately? I’d like to try those gears!! 💪🏻
ill check with Mellow.. but those gears and shaft are shorter than the official BMG.. so you might have to design your own body.. or modify the existing vz-hextrdudORT one
I wonder if the Goliath would even benefit from a CHT or Bozzle Nozzle. I assume the filament will be already completely molten when it reaches the nozzle, therefore not utilizing the splitting of the filament :D
A filament splitter at the beginning of the melting zone in the future maybe? Implemented into the heartbreak?
Will be a stealthburner mod to use it?
Do you think Mellow could make the set of gears available separately? It would be great for upgrading current extruders
They are shorter than bmg so not a direct upgrade
What an amazing combo. I can't wait to see more testing of the extruder.
It's completely understandable that you shed tears when you received the Goliath in the mail. I would have been very moved too.
Can't wait for the water-cooled vz-hextruder
Extruder sounds really cool
How may I apply to being a beta tester? Having this hotend as part of my super small and super small printhead would be awesome!
Would this also work for the Voron trident?
Hi, all is incredible....im thinking if i could install this extruder on a Tronxy xxl printer?? thnaks
Congrats on your "child" ;) Its pretty :) Looking forward to Vz hextruder.
Love the extruder!❤
It would be awesome if you'd make a video explaining why you made your own hotend (similar to the way MirageC does).
I've seen your prototype evolve over the last 6+ months but never fully understood why you went to the effort over your existing Magnum+ outside of the liquid cooling potential.
Its FUN ! making something is fun. And I wanted something lighter than M+ with more flow.
@Vez3D As detail oriented as you appear to be, I figured there were a number of reasons you'd be building something custom.
excellent design , good call on ceramics
what's Max temp of those silicone socks?
300c
@Vez3d I had a question ❓ about the Goliath hotend, is it possible to add a chc heating core similar to the one on the rapidio onto the top or bottom of the Goliath for more heating power or would that cause over extrusion or leaking
Can you recoment a source fore heat ressistant tube to insulate the nichrom wire to give some safety for my printed toolhead?
Ordered the extruder! Ali express title says 8T motor but the pictures show a standard 10T pancake stepper motor. I assume a 10T is intended??
The first ones will be with moon 8th. Then after that people will be able to chose between 8 or 10 and moon and LDO
@@Vez3D they only had units available without a motor today. I have FYSETC 10T pancake motors. Will those work with the current gearing?
yeah nema14 round 10 or 8 th will work
That is some serious high end stuff we're watching here 👍 Congratulations!
What is the reason to drop the ceramic standoffs? Too little benefit to justify the cost? I think they are mouthwatering hot (or cool, in this case 😉)
Its some other reason I cant say for now. But its not a technical issue or flaw or etc. Dont worry
Man, I guess I missed it. Extruder link says its no longer available. Is another run planned?
How is the hextrudort-low vs the orbiter 2.0?
hell yes!
Hi Vez. Very cool hotend. I would love to try one out. Seems like a supervolcano on steroids.
I am curious to know, how long is too long for a melt zone?
At some point the additional friction from viscous flow will hurt flow rate more that it helps. Imagine a 1 mile long hotend.
Someone that is good at math could probably calculate the point of negative returns, where extra length makes the flow rate go down. I would guesstimate that you are approaching it with this hotend, but we will have to wait for the test data to find out!
FWIW, he made one that was roughly 50% longer, and the improvement was negligible. Whether this means that the Goliath is at the limit of reasonable melt-zone length remains to be seen.
@@wyattutz I was pushing 75mm³/s PLA on my "lightly modded" Ender 2 Pro. I bet I could get to 100 with a firmware update, but Creality, in their infinite wisdom, decided to make a printer with non-updatable firmware... Doh!
The hotrunner is machined copper correct? Including the flange? Could the flange have been machined from steel or even titanium with the copper runner itself screwed on to further reduce heat transfer?
Yeah i guess that possible too. But im hesistant to mixt material together here with different thermal expansion
Would it be possible to print PEEK with it? Or would it just get stuck in the top of the meltzone?
I have not tested PEEK. My guess is that it would it just fine with the watercool version, but it was not tested with high temp enclosure.
First i want to thank you Vez for the open source contributions and a great line of real parts and printers Amazing! you have shared with us all!
second(team zest), I have some Veztyness to share.... so if tesla patented bolts, then we are screwed and so is every other car made after and is an infringement to teslas patent then....? (COMMON MAN.....) you dont get to patent bolts and nuts standoffs included nor do you get to steal the #7 from the calculator! put it back! they clearly dont have a real engineer or red seal anything this is obvious to me as they dont see it as a nut or bolt but yet a break thru in design..... but no one told them this happened over 200 years ago and standoffs are for spacing things or to keep heat/Electricity away from things connected to it! est. around the early 1800's, also put the periodic tables back it's not yours either my besty little friends by the way Startasys called they wanna speak to you! lmao
i will also add if the hot end was no good this all would not be happening clearly, so congratulations you(vez) designed a better hot end 3 fold and they dont like it! this is the news we have really all been waiting for the rest will come out in the wash!
their is a 10% patent rule to said copys this is well within the 10% difference and then is not a copy in anyway and you know it!
stay vesty now!!
It's winter in Canada now about and we still have to fight off the mosquitos....
Keep it Open baby!
Fact : the zesty liquid fittings are 54 grams each set Just the fittings (with no barbs on a flexible hose set up) the engineer called he gonna be late! Again!
Cheers to Simon and the team and thanks for hearing my views
CHANTING: LSD LSD LSD !!! ,.....
what waz that ...oh never mind it was just a mosquito, I got it!
AS you WERE!...
j'ai trop trop hâte ! 🤘
congrats
Def include the silicone for the wires to protect printed parts in the package.
why the one plastic gear in a full metal extruder I don't get it
Are there any specific reason why main extruder spur gear made from pom plastic? I would wanted to see metal sure with holes to make light.
ill see if we can make metal.. but $$ more
For me it looked like the inner side on the bigger gear doesnt have a dedicated bearing so this is a nice solution to use the bigger pom gear as a bearing too
@@Mekanikalistik Less noise among many motor noises.. :) And yes of course plastic is softer but they mesh with small motor pinion gear which is also undercut gear with low tooth number, with lots of forward backward movement it will be weak point.
Great Job man, I love Vzbot printer. I dont know why there no comparatif between vzbot and Voron !! you will say because is better that's all lol . Waiting you with a french video ;)
This is amazing Vez. Its too bad that slice engineering is gettting in the way. Those guys are really stopping us from going forth and innovating.
Are your extruder gears a drop-in replacement for BMG ones? Like can I use it on a stealth burner with no changes to the design
no.. the shaft is smaller in lenght to have the extruder more compact
Can the new extruder be used on other machines as well? Or is it specifically designed for the vzbot print head?
Sure it can fit other machine. Will have to share the cad so people can fit it.
@@Vez3D Thank you! I'll throw one on the card when it comes out!
hi are ther any drawing of the extruder? want to make an adapter to place it on a mantis voron toolhead, but i can't find the hole pattern to mount and match the fillament path. is it the same like the sherpa mini or the lgx lite?
same as LGX lite.. but only 2 bolts instead of 4 at the bottom. you can check the CAD of the printed version. This is very very similar besides is smaller in Y. But bolt parter and dimension of the rest is the same. github.com/VzBoT3D/VzBoT-Vz330/tree/master/CAD/Vz-HextrudORT
@@Vez3D thank you for your quick reply :) perfect than i don't have to design something new. the Lgx lite version exists:) Than I only have to solve the problem with the nicr wires and throw a goliath in there :D
Where can i buy this for my vz-bot?
Will it be possible to buy your gears standalone? This is awesome, but the hextrudort will not fit with my carriage and cooling system. I designed my own interpretation of it.
ill check. Probably yes
The extruder+hotend combo still isn't out* yet right?
Our?
@@Vez3D "our hot-end extruder combo...⚒️"
Typo 🙂 only seem to be able to find them separately
is there something new about the releasee date of the goliath?
As soon as I know more trust me ...it will be announced. There is a plan already
Were can i buy it?
have you tested goliath with bondtech CHT volcano nozzle?
yeah, and bozzle
@@Vez3D what is bozzle?
Is there a way to bolt this extruder to the stock Creality or Phaetus Drangonfly BMS hotend?
its 3d printing.. everything is possible :) just need to create a mount. I will release a mock up vesion of the cad so people can play with it
@@Vez3D That's awesome! Actually, in anticipation, I already made a rough sketch of an adapter. I just don't know the spacing of the two screw holes on the bottom of the extruder. Will be looking out for the cad mock up to solve that mistery : -D ! Also printing it with plastic will only be step one. CNC'ing it out of aluminium will enable additional heat transfer to the extruder so that can become an extension of the cooling block... In any case you and MirageC are the fore front of extruder science at the moment! Finally bye bye to wood patterns and to the infamous issue 602! I hope I will be able to snatch up a VZ-HextrudORT when they come on sale on 11/11 before they sell out. Thanks Vez!!!
When!!!!???? Is the CAD models available somewhere so I can start modeling a system to put this on my Voron
Is it only available with a pt 1000?
There are other m3 screw on if you prefer..like a 100k..but pt1000 is better
With it being 100W, will the max temp be 500°C ?
Yes arround 500
Looking to build a VZbot 330 AWD. Any ETA on the full kit with aluminum Z and all the other aluminum parts? Ordering some of them now, but I don't need to print the rest if it's coming out soon'ish.
Its ready ;) as soon as china lock down ends we start selling the kit. And the kit is just awesome!! Everythjng included with all CNC parts...extdudort, full z cnc..gantry awd.. printhead.. goliath included as a gift for now ;)
@@Vez3D Sounds awesome, hopefully I don't have to sell a kidney to buy it, but I'm definitely interested.
@@kevin_raney prices were cheap. 120$ usd shipped for the Goliath air and 140 for water. Unfortunately its delayed a bit
there is ptfe wire going all the way to the PT1000 right? the ali store says it can do 550° though. how does that work?
Edit: Correction it's not PTFE since it's clear. probably FEP then
you are right its PTFE, but the way its made the heat dont go all the way there. The testing made at factory worked but I have not personally tested all the way up there.
@@Vez3D good to hear. from the images it looks like the FEP goes all the way to the brass sensor
@@TheLordinio its filled with a ceramic coumpound that stops the heat to the wire
Congrats mate!
Couple of suggestiongs: 1) fixed focus camera, 2) please don't shake things too much
Thanks for suggestion my friend. I tried fix focused here but have to close down the lense to a max to have too depth of field and did not like the result. And it was worse because i have to manually keep objets at the same distance.. which makes it harder.
@@Vez3D Usually peole fix the focus on table and don't lift the object from it. But I'm no pro, it's better asking some experienced folks.
Hi! the links aren't working, any idea when they'll be back?
I hope soon. We are having a lock down in china because of covid
How can I get one .. on beta