Small Lightweight Beast Of An Extruder (Orbiter V2.0)

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    In todays video we dive into an extruder that I have really grown to love these past few months - The Orbiter v2.0. Its small, lightweight and packs an absolute punch. Great for regular, flexible, or abrasive printing even at quick speeds. We will go over its history, what makes it special, and install the runout sensor v2.2 onto my Mercury 1.1 printer.
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  • @TechBuild
    @TechBuild 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    I purchased an Orbiver V2 to install in my Ender3 V2 and I would say it was one of the best upgrades for the printer. The extruder despite being so much smaller than the stock extruder motor manages to apply much greater force on the filament and while printing at high speeds(150 mm/s), the Orbiter extruder very reliably.

    • @williamanthony7224
      @williamanthony7224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey, what mount are you using? Was thinking of replacing my Bowden with one

    • @cobynweston8124
      @cobynweston8124 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I 100% agree. I upgraded my Elegoo Neptune 2S with the orbiter V2 and the HMG 7 shroud. I print a lot of TPU for my FPV drones and it’s been fantastic for that

    • @balint_v
      @balint_v 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamanthony7224i’m using the “mars orbiter”, it’s a really great stuff

    • @BurittoSandwich
      @BurittoSandwich 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Was it a simple plug and play replacement along with an orbiter mount? I've been looking around and it looks more like splicing is necessary for the ender wiring?

    • @teitgenengineering
      @teitgenengineering 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes the extruder on the ender 3 is very bad

  • @CrowClouds
    @CrowClouds 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Robert is so awesome. He responds to every comment on the official FB page. I LOVE my Orbiter 1.5. It's the best extruder I've ever used.

  • @sanketss84
    @sanketss84 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    super helpful video , there are many things I did not knew about orbiter 2 and orbiter filament sensor.

  • @d3w4yn3
    @d3w4yn3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is the best background on any 3D product video I've ever seen! Thanks for doing all the homework for us!!! GLORIOUS!!!

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. I spent a lot of time on this video and a lot of it was in the research page. I wanted to cover as much as I could without being overboard. I really enjoyed it.

    • @bicicogito989
      @bicicogito989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy Yeah! This review demonstrated the product exceptionally well! And, I find you a trusted source, so the manufacturer, and designer/developer are fortunate to have you produce this video. Take good care of yourself, and your family, and keep up the solid work that you do!!!

  • @forati
    @forati 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have this one on my TTB with custum hotend mount that i create with the original parts. Im very happy with this extruder. No problems at all.

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The filament run out sensor integrated with the extruder is excellent. The sensor is usually mounted separately to minimize the extruder mass, but integration has many advantages and results in a very simple and compact design with a low hassle filament loading and unloading process, particularly with the automated load/unload macros. Modern 3D printers should have this intuitive and streamlined operation.

  • @marckart66
    @marckart66 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My first experience with the orbiter was an upgrade to my ender 3 v2. I changed it to direct drive but i hated the clunky large heavy motor. The orbiter worked perfectly and It has done hundreds of hours. My second experience with the orbiter was with my current ratrig vcore 3.1. I purchased the kit with a bondtech LGX lite since I was using that on my voron0 with great success. I found with the ratrig, my LGX lite wasn't really wanting to push filament out as fast as I wanted it to. I upgraded my pheatus rapido to the volcano CHT nozzle which helped a lot but, I got the usually quality artifacts using volcano nozzles. Inconsistent layer stacking, lines that looked like zbanding and I actually found the extruder would slip on the filament around 30mm3 on the middle setting. I decided to buy an orbiter v2.0 since the gearing in that allows it to push filament out harder at higher speeds. All my inconsistent extrusion artifacts went away. I could reliably print using 45mm3 as my limit in superslicer and it has been awesome. I also love the fact it's so easily mountable compared to a bondtech lgx lite.

  • @showland2727
    @showland2727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I've been using one for a few months now and it is so worth buying, the runout sensor with load/unload macros is awesome to use.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am sad it took me this long to try it out.

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool vid! This is the extruder I've planned to get if and when I go direct drive.

  • @DailyFrankPeter
    @DailyFrankPeter 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To think I would sit here and enjoy listening about history of a 3D printer part.... truly YT caters to every niche.

  • @ldomotorsjason3488
    @ldomotorsjason3488 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thanks for the great video. Love it.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for helping to manufacture such a great piece of hardware! :) It is an absolute joy to print with.

  • @DWIT3D
    @DWIT3D 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent look at this great extruder! Now I gotta go get me a runout sensor for mine. Will probably go on my RatRig rebuild 😊

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweet! Yeah I normally am not jumping with joy over a runout sensor but this is the one to have :)

  • @Wolf-Odonnell
    @Wolf-Odonnell หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm actually looking at the Spitfire print head for my Max3 and it includes the Orbiter 2.0, so it's cool to see how much this little motor rocks!

  • @nfvisuals
    @nfvisuals 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use an Orbiter with a Rapido HF on my Voron 2.4 350 and it was the best purchase I have made... I am super happy with it

  • @SethCNC
    @SethCNC 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks! I've been looking for a good direct drive extruder to upgrade my mostly stock ender 3's will keep this in mind!

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Highly recommended!

  • @GoingtoHecq
    @GoingtoHecq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I admit that I am most interested in prusa's giant filament driving wheel and I really want to see other extruder start to use that design. Frankly it's a great idea and to me something like it would be the best upgrade path because it would actually upgrade the printer's ability to feed filament. Most extruder designs just try to make the smallest or lightest extruder. Since I don't have a super fast printer and I don't want to spend that kind of money, the greater ability to use flexible filaments is more interesting to me. Also it's like the only way to actually prevent skipping. Any extruder using the same feed gear is equally prone to gouging filament. That's the biggest thing the new prusa extruder really fixes. It is a straight upgrade for kinking and gouging filaments

  • @michelvangent3683
    @michelvangent3683 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have one on my ender 5 pro with the sensor and it's really nice to work with. Installing in klipper was easy after i finally found what pins to use on the skr mini e3v3 board.

  • @chillnick1865
    @chillnick1865 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, thanks!

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you brother

  • @jon9947
    @jon9947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats kinda cool!
    Ordered some rails to do the Merc1.1 conversion on my 5 Plus a few days ago. So you know, maybe next year I'll get to it lol

    • @AndrewAHayes
      @AndrewAHayes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What size rails do you need for the 5+? 450mm? I am wanting to add rails to just the X and Y axis to start with and maybe later do the Mercury conversion, I already have a core XY printer so no rush to convert my 5+ machines.

    • @jon9947
      @jon9947 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndrewAHayes Yeah, all 3 for the Mercury conversion is 450mm.
      I am not in any huge hurry either, got a Bambu and then just rebuilt a sp5 using the diamond tool head and a Manta board. Those sp5's are real nice printers with just a touch of work, especially if you can catch them when Twotrees sells their returns for $200.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha better late than never!

  • @caramelzappa
    @caramelzappa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Orbiter 2 + Revo Voron is hte combo I have on my v0.
    Revo is low flow and orbiter is significantly heavier than sherpa or similar, so it's not the fastest setup, but I get better quality prints and better reliablity than any of my other printers.

  • @mariusj8542
    @mariusj8542 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just ordered two orbiters with filament sensor after seeing this.I’m using cw2 on most of my printers, but I really liked the runout sensor with the feeding macro. I also seen that my cw2’s starts to wear out at the top of filament “input hole”. This metal intake seems like a great idea. Btw love your modbotarmy channel.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sweet! You are going to love it. I only have the CW2 on my SW and havent ran into it wearing yet but I can definitely see what you mean. I am going to have to reprint the toolhead to have a PTFE fitting for the ERCF which may prevent that from happening. Regardless the combo of the killer extruder and runout is super nice.
      Thank you :)!

    • @nikoraasu6929
      @nikoraasu6929 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      by the way, you probably already have received the Orbiter, and printed a new mount for it, but there is a so called "Stealthorbiter" mod for the stealthburner that allows you to put an orbiter into a Stealthburner instead of the CW2!

  • @johan23501
    @johan23501 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video! 😁🤟

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

  • @Guenounovitch
    @Guenounovitch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That’s my favorite for now but i’m looking forward to receive Simon’s extrudort in cnc from mellow.

  • @christoskaragiannis7973
    @christoskaragiannis7973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok, now I have to get this for my new ratrig build. Thank you !

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DO IT! Also congrats on the new build.

    • @christoskaragiannis7973
      @christoskaragiannis7973 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy Thank you! I ordered the sensor yesterday! Now I just want a nozzle cam, a beacon, a carbon gantry and a touchscreen:D

  • @kilianlindlbauer8277
    @kilianlindlbauer8277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I basically had all of the popular lightweight extruders - sherpa mini, lgx lite, orbiter v2 and vz extruder. Neither of them are perfect, but have different specialities and some areas to improve:
    Sherpa: great package, but lacks grip and the release lever is unnecessary in my opinion, feels a bit too flimsy and the latch doesn't open enough, at least on mine it wasn't. Sadly lacks a bowden collet on top for the use of MMUs. Strength is definitely the low weight, pricing and the fact you can print it yourself.
    Lgx lite: great package, just a bit long; insane grip, best for tpu without any competition. Sadly a chonky boi and has not as much force as others. Mounts from the bottom, so keep that in mind. The ratchet lever is really nice as well as the gear you can turn.
    Orbiter: highest pushing force i have achieved yet, a good compromise between the grip of a lgx and weight of a sherpa. I personally had issues with tpu buckling right after the gears and the metal insert was sticking out a bit further than the flange. Tensioning lever was like the sherpa, didn't open enough to be usable without shaving some filament of.
    Vz extruder cnc: really short package, but the stepper is shifted to the side, so that can be awkward in certain situations. No bowden collet and no release lever. Otherwise really stiff assembly and has concentric gears like the lgx. Quite some more grip compared to the sherpa and skips steps rather than grinds, but performed not well with medium tpu (85a) the filament twirled due to the helical gears which led to under extrusion. Mounts from the bottom like the lgx.
    I should also mention that both the sherpa and vz accept either 8 or 10 teeth steppers while the others need 10t.
    As i previously said there is no perfect extruder, but there is a trend: for fast printing a sherpa due to its weight or the pricier vz extruder for its low weight and enhanced traction are the best candidates. The lgx is the best for difficult filaments and boasts an enhanced consistency in surface quality compared or other extruders. The orbiter exceeds in pushing for and is a jack of all trades, but master of none, yet will be the best choice for someone that doesn't know what they will be doing with it.
    Personally i have some longevity concerns on the orbiter as the primary drive shaft is aluminium and i already saw some where the bearings wore into the aluminium. From my knowledge it wasn't replaced by ldo

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for taking the time to right such a detailed response about your experience. I have used the Orbiter and the LGX Lite and have done a ton of research into Sherpa Micro/Mini. I have one build I have been waiting to install for months.
      Much of what you are saying mirrors what I have seen. I have seen some beautiful TPU prints coming off of the LGX Lite. I am going to be building a VZBot soon here so I am excited to try the VZ. They all do seem to have a bit of specialty but from a few years ago it is incredible how far extruders have come. Hotends to, I feel like there are so many killer options available.

    • @kilianlindlbauer8277
      @kilianlindlbauer8277 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ModBotArmy yeah, the last few years really changed 3d printing for the better, especially when speed became more and more important since it not only led to hardware, but also software advancements. Now every major firmware has input shaper and marlin resolved the bugs for linear advance in combination with standalone drivers. Personally im surprised that many still dont use these free quality improvements.
      As for hotends i still think the rapido is the king for any sort of high flow application. If you want to see something new, have a look at team plasmics induction hotend, the ino trident. Heat up time of 8 seconds or so, no need for a heatsink fan

    • @oleurgast730
      @oleurgast730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually while using the Orbiter on my mk3s (Zorbiter printhead), I have very good results with the Trianglelab TBG Lite Extruder on my Prusa mini. Actually I had modified the mini originaly to sherpa extruder, but was not happy with the grip. As there are not many designs for the TBG Lite and I am not very skilled in designing my own solutions, first I had no clue how to mount it. But following the old rule "If you have no clue, use glue" I simply used the hotend design for the sherpa on prusa mini (with revo mini) and instead of mounting the sherpa with screws I simply glued the TBG lite on top. Works perfectly.
      Also I used a moons motor (you can order the TBG lite with Moons or LDO). While both motors are of good quality, the moons motor use a higher current (less voltage) and this current is quite simular of the original stepper motor. So it works on the Prusa mini without changes (exept for esteps).

  • @twanheijkoop6753
    @twanheijkoop6753 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    A cnc'd vzhextrudort would also be a good contender if youre looking for something with a bit more consistent extrusion

    • @adamfilipowicz9260
      @adamfilipowicz9260 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How do you know its more consistent?

  • @cybernetix86
    @cybernetix86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the runout sensor is really interesting. I use and Hemera and there is no runout sensor that looks neat like that. Great job on the videos

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. It is definitely the cleanest/most well though out sensor I have seen.

    • @oleurgast730
      @oleurgast730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy Actually in my opinion the old mk3 sensor was even better. It detected also if the filament moves. The reason the sensor was not reliable wasn't the fault of the sensor itself, but using PETG for the printhead. PETG - even in black - is high glossy. So the infrared light was reflected inside the detection chamber like hell. So it was like moving an optical mouse on a glas table. I simply painted the filament detection chamber with non-glossy black paint inside and hat a perfectly reliable sensor.
      While there is no unload button or led, it has automatic filament load.
      But one downside on both the orbiter sensor and the mk3-sensor (both old and new): some filaments have a kink in the end (Sunlu...). Passing the ball the fillament can not unload. Quite a mess. On my mk3s+ I actually added a second filament sensor right after the spool and connected both sensors by some ttl-logic. Only if both sensors detect filament, it is reported as detected.

  • @CB_agotchi
    @CB_agotchi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Still have one sitting in a box for my Orbiter 1.5
    Having a hard time finding the right files to print for it

  • @MrLelopes
    @MrLelopes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Meanwhile...Me, crying in old Greg's Wade extruder.
    I was lost looking for a suitable replacement and was going for the Bmg dual drive since it looked easy to assemble. But now I may wait a little longer to get one of those little devils. But will look for the right files for x carriage.

  • @phantomkitsune7415
    @phantomkitsune7415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Modbot, can you do a video on the Ender 3/V2 Apogee fanshroud that uses the Orbiter extruder? There aren't any videos on TH-cam on assembly and it would be nice to see someone test the capabilities of it when pushed to the limit with klipper.

  • @oleurgast730
    @oleurgast730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use the Orbiter 2.0 with the Zorbiter 2.0 Hotend for the Prusa mk3s(+) with a Revo Six. It works perfectly well. Actually it uses the filament runout sensor from the mk3s, with quite simular functionality like the orbiter sensor (actually there is a special PCB with an extra button for unload available, but no LED).
    I can realy recomment this upgrade (but I do not know exactly which part of the improvement is due to the Orbiter and which due to the Revo).
    Luckly I have multiple mk3s+ (one original, 4 clones) and just changed 2 of them to Zorbiter- so I do not need to remove the zorbiter to try the mk4-upgrade ;-)

  • @x7boarder257
    @x7boarder257 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have them both and love em. The latest version of the filament runout sensor is the correct one. The original one had a bit of slop with it and would sense have false “run outs”. Getting to the issue you had with Ali I don’t believe there an official retailer. The orbiter projects list the authentic sellers for future reference. Obviously more expensive but at least you know there real.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have heard from a few others the early revision had some tolerance issues causing false triggers. I am glad to see it has been corrected. Definitely a bummer. The price was actually within $1-2 of what I paid for the second I bought so I just figured it was genuine. Good call, I should have checked the list.

    • @x7boarder257
      @x7boarder257 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m having issue with mine detecting run outs at the moment. The light changes to red but it doesn’t pause and allow for a filament change. Do I need to # all of the pause, resume and a few other macros for it to work properly?

  • @Michaelhood0
    @Michaelhood0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im thinking of picking up a bontech lgx light today. Would you recommend this orbiter over the lgx light?

  • @ALucaRD807
    @ALucaRD807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I've modified my filament sensor to have an M8 thread so I would have the pneumatic coupler installed for higher reliability with automatic filament changers like ERCF

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats awesome. Is the mod posted anywhere? I am building ERCF and that may come in handy at some point.

    • @ALucaRD807
      @ALucaRD807 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy I'm sorry for confusion. by modified I meant "I cut the M8 thread there"

  • @marcopavesi6061
    @marcopavesi6061 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, gramn nice video, I have a reborn 2 very similar to the one you have in the video... where can I find the support to print to attach it to the plate and replace both the extruder with the one you have, and also the hot edn which I haven't found yet, if you can advise me. Thank you

  • @102diy
    @102diy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Smaller motors are really heat more that bigger. Thats why I'm still using standard nema 14 for extruder!

  • @hstrinzel
    @hstrinzel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can this be used with an original Ender 3 printer? Great video, great product.

  • @b3owu1f
    @b3owu1f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So can you use this extruder with most any hot end.. slice engineering, rapido, magnum, etc? Also.. is it able to mount on pretty much any printer.. or do you have to have specific mounts for printers? Playing around with the BIQU Hermit Crab.. would love to be able to find an extruder and hot end that mounts to the removable plate.. for my S1 Pro which the base plate fits on my linear rail setup, but haven't yet wired it up.

  • @Liberty4Ever
    @Liberty4Ever 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I built 3D printers when that was the only alternative to commercial Stratosys systems and I enjoy hacking, but I wish more manufacturers licensed a good extruder like this and fully integrated it with their 3D printers. Currently, the Creality K1 would be a great value in high speed high quality 3D printing if it wasn't having teething problems with the extruder that Creality built in an effort to make a low mass high flow extruder.

  • @tinaschulz3514
    @tinaschulz3514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am using the "guts" of an Orbiter 1.5 in my Galileo extruder modded for 2.85mm filament. After some initial hickups it is a joy to run that extruder. I also use a Clockwork 1 on this printer and can switch that way from 1.75mm to 2.85mm.
    My other printers have the Pocketwatch, Clockwork1 and 2.
    I am looking forward to the Galileo2 extruder and wonder if that will be based on the Orbiter2 ;)

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats awesome. I donated my 2.85mm filament some years ago now but always wanted a toolhead that could run both. You can find some great deals on 2.85mm!

    • @tinaschulz3514
      @tinaschulz3514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy Just because I drilled into the filament "passway" with a 3mm drill, I did print the Galileo parts with a wall count of 6. For the PTFE tube I did use 4mm OD/3mm ID . So far I had no problems (apart from the setup ;) )

  • @roybrathe4762
    @roybrathe4762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So sorry. But is there any possibility of a bit more info about this filament sensor for connection to the ebb36, I think I have understood that it is a port i2c, but can I get 3 volts there as I see that the sensor will have 3 volts. Thanks in advance for any information I can get.
    Roy

  • @MetalRhino42
    @MetalRhino42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you check out the haldis HGT lightweight extruder? seems to be a sub $30 (if you don't buy the motor with it) dual gear extruder that might fit many peoples budgets

  • @ivyr336
    @ivyr336 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hmm just ordered a mellow vz- extruder, perhaps I should have gone with the orbiter...

  • @knightsljx
    @knightsljx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    don't sleep on the Orbiter V2.0, it should be on every printer that can be modded to fit it

  • @FactionalSky
    @FactionalSky 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will stack an Orbiter V2 with sensor on my Megaklipper S Mk4. :D

  • @robertmitchell5934
    @robertmitchell5934 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have been running the orbiter for about 2 years and just upgraded to the 2.0 and the filament sensor. i was able to change the initial feed for my needs. i adjusted the initial legngh to feed almost to the hotend heat up and then purge legnth, but the rate or purge and unload is so slow if i leave it at the stock setting i get errors about the feedrate being unacheivable, not sure on what to do

  • @Bennyco86
    @Bennyco86 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should do a new video on the Galileo 2.0 from LDO, none of the channels have done it yet

  • @retro_boy_advance
    @retro_boy_advance 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i love my Orbiter 2 and filament sensor! Use it on my heavily modded, Klipperized Ender 3. I had to reprint the filament sensor cover though because the fitment was too loose in the original design and whenever the printer did fast motions, the ball would shake enough that it would falsely detect that no filament was present. On the other hand, my filament sensor cover now matches the colour of the rest of my printer, so win-win!

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is nice that there is the ability to reprint the housing. Do you know which version of the sensor you have? I think the latest 2.2 has fixed the issue of a loose fit.

  • @justinchamberlin4195
    @justinchamberlin4195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first runout sensor that I would say actually works. Why make such a bold statement? Because every other runout sensor I can think of is located nowhere near the extruder itself, instead usually being bolted to the top crossbar (for printers with filament loaded from the top) or on the side of the gantry (for side-loading designs). Having the runout sensor inches away from the extruder really doesn't help when printing with leftover bits of spools or with samples - on my Sidewinder X1, I just stick a spare piece of filament in the sensor so it won't beep at me long before the print or sample is finished (this has only ended up in me disassembling the extruder to get the last bit of filament out twice). Having the runout sensor right next to the extruder minimizes waste and opportunities for failure by trying to squeeze out every millimeter of plastic you can get.
    But this sensor is more than just intelligently located - having macros to load and unload filament without the need to manually heat up the extrurder is really quite amazing. The X1 at least has a single button in the tools menu to change filament in and out, but that's still far less convenient than just sticking the filament into the extruder to load or pressing a single, highly-accessible button on the top of the extruder to unload. My only tiny concern there is that people who print with a wide variety of filaments would have to be careful with the minimum extruder temp they choose and when they still have to manually preheat before loading/unloading - someone who prints everything from wood-filled PLA to PC might struggle to choose a single minimum extrusion temperature that works for everything.
    Anyway, the Orbiter is a great design, the Orbiter sensor is a great design, and I can't say enough good things about what LDO Motors is doing for the 3D printing community.

  • @MaGuyComments
    @MaGuyComments 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sold out!! Where can i buy?

  • @electrify_creations7303
    @electrify_creations7303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey!
    I know this is a bit out of the blue but i was wondering if you can tell me what current/voltage your running the extruder on? I know it may be klipper firmware but I'm trying to use the orbiter with marlin.
    Sorry if this is too much to ask.

  • @unlock-er
    @unlock-er 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wouldn't you Y and Z axis on adxl swapped if you mounted like that? assuming you're using the adxl with ebb?

  • @MaffooClock
    @MaffooClock 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Spent more time talking about the runout sensor than the Orbiter itself 🤔

  • @LeandroTheVoice
    @LeandroTheVoice 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi what are you using for [firmware_retraction] for this setup?

  • @TS_Mind_Swept
    @TS_Mind_Swept หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now I kind of wish I would have gotten this instead of a BMG clone.... oh well, I guess it will be there if I ever need another replacement 🤷🏿‍♀️

  • @leesmithsworkshop
    @leesmithsworkshop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have 4 orbiters and another extruder with the ldo motor and they are just the best. One has the filament sensor too and although it's good I think the software needs some tweaking like an option to choose the temperature when loading - unloading. If you only print with one type of filament setting of 180 is ok, but what happens when you want to print petg or asa ?

    • @scheidch
      @scheidch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wondered the same and I found that it's still possible to load even ABS+ at default temp although the gears to start to skip toward the end of the load.

    • @leesmithsworkshop
      @leesmithsworkshop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scheidch to get around this I set mine to 260 even for pla.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It actually heats up to 235 on mine before extruding. I think the setting a minimum extruder is more of a failsafe. The current macros on their site do all unload and load operations at 235 unless you are mid print. This can be tweaked though.

    • @leesmithsworkshop
      @leesmithsworkshop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy but it would be nice to have the option to choose a material like on the prusa.

  • @kevinstampe
    @kevinstampe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What toolhead is that? Looks good, i would like that for my printer 😅

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is the ZeroG Mercury 1.1 Toolhead. It is a pretty heavily modified EVA 2.4.

  • @CursedBrainJuice
    @CursedBrainJuice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I gotta know what that blue filament you were printing with is called.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is Bambu Lab PLA metal Cobalt Blue 😊

    • @CursedBrainJuice
      @CursedBrainJuice 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy 🙏 thank

  • @effnrad2127
    @effnrad2127 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the setup on my ender3. However, I keep getting an invalid pin error in Klipper that I can’t figure out .

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The runout sensor is causing the error?

  • @womacko
    @womacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Orbiter V3 is out!! It is fully smart and has Klipper support! Please revisit your review :)

  • @calvingreen1215
    @calvingreen1215 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone tell me, would this be a straight swap for the v1.0 orbital on a rat rig?

  • @sierraecho884
    @sierraecho884 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It only has one design flaw which is dual gear drive. This is an oxymoron since either the gears mesh perfectly with each other of the gears mesh with the filament but never both at the same time.

  • @Elliot00000
    @Elliot00000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder if you could stick this on the 100

  • @doa_form
    @doa_form 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any benefits of the orbiter vs the stock mini Stealth burner in the V0.2?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am just recently running the MiniSB for the first time so its hard to say. If I had to make an opinion based on my short time I would say the Orbiter 2.0 is definitely superior from an extruder vs extruder standpoint. The planetary gears and shorter wider gears will give it more force. That being said the MiniSB is a great toolhead and if you are not running into limitations I see no reason to swap. I plan on running the MiniSB as is. It may make sense if you do a complete swap to a dragon burner toolhead with the orbiter.

  • @baofung7503
    @baofung7503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice

  • @robertomontano5700
    @robertomontano5700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the stainless steel filament path does that mean it can do abs/asa?

    • @CB_agotchi
      @CB_agotchi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That has more to do with your hotend heat break

  • @NoMoreBsPlease
    @NoMoreBsPlease 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:11 So it's another not that useful "filament sensor". I'd much rather have snag detection over filament run out. I've had FAR more failed prints from filament tangled on the spool!

  • @chris9653
    @chris9653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder how this stacks up against sherpa mini in real world use

  • @GAMERSW0RLD
    @GAMERSW0RLD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bought 2 and at first was great.. macros worked well and loading etc like you’ve shown was good. Shortly after with not many hours of use, mainly printing PLA, the movement of the tool head must have made the channel through past the ballbearing change, and shortly after starting printing it stops as if it’s run out of filament, if you catch it you can see the sensor flash red, this also continues to happen if you resume the print! Warning to most buying this, great idea but doesn’t have the legs you’d hope for! Love LDO and their products but this product has an annoying flaw. I mentioned this also on Teaching Tech’s video.

    • @scheidch
      @scheidch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It sounds like you are using the filament sensor. I had the issue. I don't know if there have been any updates to the design since I bought mine (I got it as soon as it became available) - the designer speculated that it was perhaps due to MJF printing tolerances. I took apart the filament sensor and sandwiched a piece of squished filament between the sensor board and the latch and it solved my issue. It's been functioning properly this way for about a year now.

    • @GAMERSW0RLD
      @GAMERSW0RLD 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scheidch yeah I thought of that as a fix but just removed it instead. I think if the tube section was metal or had an inner metal piece/ sleeve this could be better 🤷‍♂️

  • @NicksStuff
    @NicksStuff 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have you seen there's a V3?

    • @womacko
      @womacko 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      just ordered!! Its smart 😍 basically toolboard + extruder + hotend AiO :O

  • @AndrewAHayes
    @AndrewAHayes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been asking for years why filament sensors are not part of the extruder and loads of people told me it cant be done as if the filament broke inside the extruder it would be a real pain to disassemble to get the filament out, I disagreed and now I have been proved correct and am currently wearing my smug face LOL

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha as you should be! If this detect filament has runout it triggers an auto unload macro. Not that there cannot be some clogging but this is really setup to handle runouts well.

  • @aware2action
    @aware2action 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anybody printed AtomStack's 50A+ TPR without a Cambrian? Could do it like a piece of cake with a Lulzbot flexystruder😂❤👍

  • @Sttreg
    @Sttreg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    top be honest, The orbiter sensor has been a god sent for my printer.... until it wasn't anymore. For some reasons, it started to fail, and detect false runout. This has ruined many print sadly. I have tried changing the housing, and the pcb, but I kept getting this issue. Maybe, with with a professionaly made housing from pcb way, it would solve the issue... But I'm too scared to try now

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you know what version you are running? It sounds like older versions had some tolerance issues that caused false triggers.

    • @Sttreg
      @Sttreg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy v1.2 sensors. I've tried both the old and new housing (3d printed at home)

  • @Bionitech
    @Bionitech 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Phenomenal extruder, but getting a fan duct made for my ender 3 pros is a colossal pain in the ass

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check out Squirrel's Apollo Toolhead:
      twitter.com/squirrelf3d?lang=en

  • @Crokto
    @Crokto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok but part of the point of the orbiter is that its so light, so why add mass to the printhead when you could design the sensor to be mounted on the frame?

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The sensor is pretty light and I am not trying for speed benchy level of speeds so it is more than sufficient. I personally do not like frame mounted runout sensors. Maybe if it was a bowden setup. My Revo is currently the limitation and not weight.

    • @Crokto
      @Crokto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ModBotArmy why dont you like frame mounted ones? legitimate question, i havent played around with these sensors at all, so ive just seen people complain about them being unreliable but idk how that would be different on the frame vs on the printhead, unless its just the frame mounted ones tend to be low quality regardless of mounting position

  • @eloosive
    @eloosive 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s so hard to watch you because you show me stuff I want to spend money on. That’s a niiiice extruder, LDO is my favorite motor brand.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      LDO does not mess around! So many awesome projects are using their hardware.

  • @roxasparks
    @roxasparks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wait its ooooonly 60 bucks!?!?😮

  • @riccardosacchetti
    @riccardosacchetti 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two of them. Realy realy well made and works like horse!

  • @samzweerink7295
    @samzweerink7295 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I decided to go with the Sherpa Mini instead of the Orbiter V2...I'm kind of regretting that but the Sherpa Mini is no slouch.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am finally installing the Sherpa Mini that I have had parts for onto a printer. Looking forward to getting some time with it.

    • @isauromanuel
      @isauromanuel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How is the mini sherpa with tpu?

  • @dovan4092
    @dovan4092 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's disappointing is the lack of "evolution" when it comes to bed leveling. Just as much a nightmare today as it was 10 years ago.

  • @martinways2023
    @martinways2023 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your design has a disadvantage - very long filament path from gears to nozzle. It's rather not direct, but short bowden. Filament path is critical for TPU`s. You will no be able to print tpu 70 or 60A. This orbiter must have aliminium body with screwed in short heatbreak. That's just in such version, it will be considered progressive and modern.

  • @zola5584
    @zola5584 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dr.Róbert Lőrincz A HUNGARIAN ENGINEER, just like me😁😀

  • @jessehavok4181
    @jessehavok4181 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pretty late to the party.

    • @ModBotArmy
      @ModBotArmy  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This may be true but I think there are many who see it as being an older extruder or just dont know about it. Based on my experience it should be getting a lot more praise than I have seen.

  • @diesereineNeger
    @diesereineNeger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1

    • @Nici619
      @Nici619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We are all very proud of you

  • @marcopavesi6061
    @marcopavesi6061 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi, gramn nice video, I have a reborn 2 very similar to the one you have in the video... where can I find the support to print to attach it to the plate and replace both the extruder with the one you have, and also the hot edn which I haven't found yet, if you can advise me. Thank you