as someone whose skin loves micellar water, and hates cleansing balms/oils, it’s so interesting to see how everyone’s skin is so different and it’s great that there are so many options out there!
I agree..everyone's skin is different. My daughter uses it before using her normal cleanser and she swears by it before regularly cleansing her skin. It works for her.
@@audreyevans6660 well of course, because she washes it off afterwards. You should always wash off micellar water, even if the bottle says not to. It's great as a first layer cleanser, but double cleansing is really important.
I use after cleansing because my skin breaks out from washing my face due to the hard water. I’ve been using the Micellar water as a toner and it gets all of the hard water stick from my skin. I’ve narrowed it down to this as the issue because my hair is terribly oily from hard water and I’ve tried everything every shampoo to do something about it and only works with this hard water shampoo
@@Midway2RealityASMR hard water was causing me serious problems. I started using sunflower oil as a buffer when I cleanse my face. And ditching all sulfates made the difference. I remove hard water residue after cleansing with a gentle toner with no cleaning agents. That pretty much cleared up the acne and stopped the inflammation. I wouldn’t use a balm because balms require a lot of cleansing to wash off.
I never understood why the labels on the front says 'no rinse needed' - I mean if the product says can remove make up, oil and dirt, who would want the gunk to sit on the face still? Double cleanse for sure!
I just rinse with water, I only wash my face with soap when I feel like it (usually if I wear makeup because if I dont like triple cleanse I get acne) This was a lot more gentle on my skin and completely changed it, now I can handle my acne medication without burning my face off and my acne has gone down completely since I can use my prescriptions right and my face isn't as reactive I'd guess it's because it keeps a lot of natural oils, I've tried gentle cleansers but I'd feel oily or would break out
That's dumb, sounds like you fell into some 'chemicals are bad' fallacy. The sufactant found in micellar water is the same one found in many Creams and lotions, it is completely fine to leave it on your face. Plus micellar water is popular in areas with hard water to remove the build ups, rinsing it off with water would just defeat the purpose
@@Ichmochtekunst Bestie cleansers and creams are not used the same? Theyre not saying its toxic because evil chemicals, the point is that they would want to rinse the gunk they were aiming to remove from their face off. And just because thats what they were made to do (re: hard water), doesnt mean its the best option, Dr Dray herself has argued this.
Same . I don’t see to point to to switch. I don’t wear makeup only sunscreen and I find micellar water to remove it all and then I use my cleanser so my face clean for sure . Works great for me .
Same. I use Micellar water to loosen up my makeup and sunscreen, then follow it up with a cleanser. The cleansing balms are more expensive and I'm already spending so much in other skincare products to combat other skin issues, so if Micellar water can do what I need and is cheap, then I'm sticking with it!
I found that oil cleansing gave me more sebaceous filaments on my nose even though I’m double cleansing. My dermatologist told me to stop oil cleansing. Started using the Bioderma micellar water with a cotton pad that has a gentle textured surface and the sebaceous filaments diminished. Absolutely wash off micellar water.
My dermatologist too!!! I have the same skin type like you. And double cleanse with Bioderma micellar water and wash with la roche possay helped my skin....
I have extremely sensitive skin and have recently found that micellar water is the only thing that works to cleanse my skin. It's good to see what you recommend, especially the fact about washing it after putting it on so it doesn't cause more irritation.
Thanks Dr. D. I'm converting to your method😉👍 The first time I used micellar water I rinsed my face and felt a whole lot of slimey residue💦😱The other day I decided to do I a third wipe with a cotton pad and was surprised my foundation was still coming off!
I don't know why, but EVERY cleaning oil and balm I have tried, dried out my skin severely and gave a lot of irritation. So now I just use Bioderma Sensibio Micellar water.
Same here! I’ve had the best results with my skin after switching to Micellar water. I’ve never rinsed it off. I’ve never had irritation on my very sensitive fair skin. I have hard water and this product has been awesome.
I use Simple micellar water to remove makeup because it works and does not irritate my eyes. Every cleansing oil or balm I have ever used irritates my eyes. Maybe I will try using the micellar water for eye makeup only and just use the oils or balms to remove the rest of my makeup. I always shower at night and use Cerave cleanser as a double cleanse in the shower.
I always rinse off my micellar water along with a cleanser and it works well! They're cost-effective compared to cleansing oils. It just works better for my budget as a student (though I occasionally use cleansing oils for removing makeup).
For me it's the other way around. My local drugstore has their own version of a cleansing oil and it is dirt cheap. Plus, I haven't bought cotton pads in years. In general, I don't understand when people are being posh with their cleansing products, like, it's going down the drain literally.
@@CrazyLeaf012 baby wash cloths are sooo good. So gentle and I got them for free cuz of my past baby shower gifts lol. They work so well with micellar water or using cold cream.
personally, i use micellar water to break up my makeup before i wash it off. cleansing oils do work, but they don’t last nearly as long as i need them to. keep in mind that this is from the perspective of someone that wears HEAVY full coverage foundation
@@MsTammi125 i stg these do wonders for me. i don’t fw makeup wipes though, they hurt & have an even shorter life span. what micellar waters did you use? i’m just curious
I follow up my micellar water with a wet microfiber towel and consider that my rinse...I avoid splashing water on my face/eyes in the late evening when i remove my sunscreen because it wakes me up. That is my solution to this all-day wearing sunscreen recommendation. Dr Dray, I'd love to know if you think the towel is enough of a rinse.
I was today years old when I learns that people use mi ellas water and just... leave it on??? Like no rinsing ? I use it as my first step in my double cleaning routine 😅
everyone here in france leaves it on, it's moisturizing and feels great. We've been doing it for many many years with no issues, it's what it was formulated for
It's bc it says no rinse off but I think it's weird as it still feels like a mild version of the disposable makeup wipe that was always marketed as something you do before washing your face
I am so happy you touched on cowashing. I found this quite insane when I read it in the Curly Girl Handbook but what's more annoying is the judgement on people who decide to continue using a shampoo.
Hi unfortunately there is a lot of judgement about not following the "CGM" to the letter on some forums. Many curly haired women use a modified form of the cgm that suits their hair best. I alternate one wash with shampoo and the next as a co wash. I have a very dry/eczema prone scalp and dry/course textured hair that craves moisture. Not shampooing every single wash works fine for me and that's the key - finding what works for each of us. When I shampoo I deep condition afterwards, which helps my hair to get enough moisture. Don't worry about the "judgy" few, as most women just want you to find a way to enjoy your curls. I think those with an oilier scalp will need to use shampoo far more often than I do, that's sensible and no judgement from this direction. Best wishes. ps a channel that embraces shampoo is Manes by Mel. Good luck.
It's nasty and terrible for you to never use shampoo. At some point you have to clarify your scalp with shampoo, no matter what type of hair you have. You can use a cowash too.
I use Malibu C Un-do-goo every 3-5 washes (ManesbyMell and another hair stylist I follow on Twitter both recommended it) and it's changed my life. I use sulfate free shampoos and conditioners in between.
My doctor recommended to use micellar water, you can honestly use one that is for sensitive skin.. does not drain it etc. And follow it up with a cleanser. It is 2 essential steps for cleabing your skin.
I have dry/combination skin and live in a dry climate, this winter I've noticed that switching from double cleansing with oil and cleanser to just using micellar water and rinsing has improved the hydration of my skin A LOT. I have never heard this from any skincare experts, but I just feel like the "like removes like" rule really applies here. What I mean is that I feel like cleansing oils don't just remove the unwanted oils from my face, they remove the oils my skin needs as well. Just a guess from my experience. But this video was very helpful, I will try adding in my cleanser to my night routine after my micellar water to make sure my skin gets clean enough 👍
I think it's great you don't just dismiss micellar water all the way like sooo many people lately. I really don't get this micellar water hate. I have been using it for years as a first step in double cleansing (before it was "a thing"). Personally I much prefer it to oils or balms, they are generally more expensive, either clog my pores or iritate my skin, often get in my eyes which is so annoying, I hate rubbing then on my face and it tends to take long to melt makeup. For me the only downside for micellar water is having to use cotton pads. My favoutites are the basic Garnier micellar water and the Bioderma one.
Do you really have to use cotton pads though? Don't think so, if you're going to rinse regardless. Just put some in your palm (with washed hands) and rinse.
In double cleansing: I started having problems with residue when I used the Neutrogena wipes, so I switched to Albolene. I didn’t like the vaseline/oil feeling Albolene left of my skin, so I switched to Neutrogena fragrance-free body oil. I ended up being allergic to the body oil, so I switched to Garnier SkinActive Micellar Cleansing Water and it’s been SO effective!
I have rosacea. Using micellar water as the first step of a double cleanse significantly reduced my skin irritation and improved hydration for me. It really helps to break up foundation. If you just pour a little bit into your palm, you can apply it with your fingers. It's significantly less expensive to find a non-irritating, unfragranced micellar water than an oil cleanser and micellar water rinses off the skin with a single splash, as opposed to multiple rinses and finger massage required by oil cleansers.
@@gorgeousgoddess79 I actually moved to putting the micellar water in a small spray bottle last year. I just spray it directly onto my skin, no cotton pad, gentle rub with my finger tips, the rinse. My current second step is the la Roche posse toleraine cream cleanser.
@@kmkmkmkmkm9282 Thank you so much for your reply. I will try it. I thought it was the water drying me but I think it could be the cotton. I am new at this skin care stuff, and I am 44! Better late than never. Thanks again!
Sometimes I use heavy makeup and personally, when I do an oil based cleanser it just doesn't remove all of the makeup as I would like it to. I use an oil based when its only sunscreen but when its makeup, I like to use Bioderma's micellar water, then I go in with my oil cleanser and then with my gentle cleanser.
As a makeup wearer I find the garnier micellar water super gentle on my skin, never burns my eyes (been using it for years), and pretty effectively removes makeup. However, I use a lot of powder products lately and find it doesn’t quite break them up as much as I’d like. I do go in with cera ve SA cleanser afterwards and that dissolves any small amounts that might be remaining. I find cleansing balms irritate my eyes and almost make them feel filmy. I may try using the micellar water just around my eyes and test out a cleansing balm for the rest of my makeup then follow up with the cleanser. The thought of a makeup wearer not double cleansing makes me feel so icky 🥴🥴
I Have been loving the Fragrance free ponds cold cream. Thanks dr dray for providing all this lovely information and posting daily.I’m 15 and plan on becoming an aesthetician and am very obsessed with sunscreen.
I have a bottle left for "emergency" mascara removal. However, I find the regular use having a drying effect. Also, my skin changed a bit after giving birth, so I find oil cleansing a better option for me to restore former glory:)
Since I have to use waterproof eye makeup , I finally discovered what removes it better and is much more economical . Garnier micellar water for waterproof products has never irritated my problematic eyes . I have never used it for anything else and never wiped it on my face . The cleansing I do afterwards always takes everything off .Even very expensive eye makeup removers have many issues besides $$$ so I'm done with everything else . I should have stock in Cera Ve LOL .I am just so glad I found the Garnier and CV . Peoply are always asking me why I don't have any wrinkles ? Easy answer , I started taking care of my skin about 53 yrs. ago .Lots of other health probs but no skin stuff ! BTW I never tried the regular Garnier MW so don't know what Dr Dray tried ..
Micellar water is heavenly! I’ve gone through 6 bottles so far and have never experienced any issues. But I use as a secondary cleanser. I do not rinse. My face never looked better.
Same. Not sure I feel like taking two showers per day. I did get a filter for my shower but right now I have too much going on to get one for my sink and wouldn’t know if I could anyway. Maybe two showers it is...the second one being even quicker?
I bought a Cerave cleanser and it had a small miceller water sample bundled with it. It was ok, but I didn’t fall in love with it. It’s Hada labo oil or Albolene for me.
Man I tried albolene and it didn’t do anything for me- it wasn’t as good at removing my eye makeup as argan oil or other cleansing balms and I felt like my face stayed greasy (not moisturized) even after double cleanse. Plus I got a bunch of little whiteheads after awhile. Such a bummer cause it would have been really cost effective.
@@sarahb6321 -💕 I started using Albolene when Dr Dray recommended it quite awhile ago. I use it only in the dry fall/winter. Humid spring/ summers I switch to the oil.
I've had acne my whole life and I'm in my 60's. I took every prescription and tried every DYI. Simple cellular cleansing water for sensitive skin has been a god send for me. If you have acne, I highly recommend you give it a try.
My face used to look dull. But later I achieved glowing skin, free from pimples and dark spots, by doing these things. -: 1. Drinking water at least 3 to 4 liters per day. 2. Having carrots or carrot juice daily. 3. Using Littlextra Ricebery face wash daily, which is derived from black rice water known for its superior skin benefits compared to regular white rice water. 4. Joining the gym and sweating a lot. 5. Giving Steam to my face or entire body once every 20 days.
Loved this riceberrry face wash. It cleanses skin deeply, being gentle to skin, and doesn't irritate the skin, not even the eyes. Moreover, it soothes acne, making for an overall positive experience.
I have rosacea and have never found a cleansing oil or regular oil that doesn’t exacerbate it. But micellar water works very well for me with no irritation or exacerbation. But I use it like most use cleansing oils: as a first step in a double cleanse. I pour into my palm, massage over skin, rinse off in the shower, then use a gentle cleanser.
Try what i do, do the shower first, your pores will open up real good and primes the skin for cleansing, then when you're done apply the Micellar water and so on, i believe it makes the cleansing process a bit more efficient.
Soft water has restored my skin and hair! I installed a KDF and soft water filter in my shower last month. Just regenerate it every week and good to go! I never realized how horrible hard water is. Not a fun or trendy topic but I recommend soft water for everyone.
You make great points but for someone who has dry skin like mine which does not tolerate cleansing twice a day, it’s been great to use it in the mornings followed by a quick rinse. My face isn’t all that dirty from just sleeping the night. In the evenings, when there is sunscreen and dirt on the face, then use a cleansing balm + gentle cleanser.
As others have mentioned, the CeraVe Micellar Water has been reformulated and I used it last night for the first time with absolutely no stinging, and it completely removed waterproof mascara (Maybelline WP LashSensational), unlike other Micellar Water I have tried (Garnier 🔘 for waterproof mascara) which stung like crazy. I also tested the brand new CeraVe "Comforting Eye Makeup Remover" (found in-store at Ulta) on the other eye with even better results!
I use a separate eye cleanser from my micellar water. I have a Neutrogena eye makeup remover and use the Simple brand micellar water before using a benzoyl peroxide cleanser. I use the Paulas Choice BHA after all of that and the cotton pads turn out clean with the BHA is I’ve used micellar water, but still take off a bit of dirt and pollutants if I’ve just used the benzoyl peroxide cleanser- even on days where I don’t wear makeup. Good to know that I’ve gotten all the steps right just with my own experimention!
I’ve brought micellar water with me on camping trips, along with a spray bottle to fill with water and refresh without showering. Just make sure to pack out any cotton pads you’ve used ✨
I'm not a Derm or anything like that. But I do have sensitive skin.😅 The bioderma sensibio water is one of the few cleansers I can leave on my skin in these situations. Spritzig a little but of thermal water and wiping it off afterwards is super nice. But there have been situations where I couldn't do that and I didn't get lesions or pustules with the bioderma.
You read my mind on this one! I have been having this micellar water - oil cleanser debate for a while and have used both as a first cleanse and I have to agree completely with you on the oil removing sunscreen and makeup easier than the micellar. I have used Garnier and Bioderma and found them both to be equally effective. They don’t have any adverse effects on my mature, normal with slightly oily T zone skin, but I do have to work harder to get the mascara off. I do still use the M.W. to take the sunscreen off my neck because it’s less messy at the sink. 😊. Thanks again for this video and validating my results.
I love micellar water, it's amazing and here in France we all use it to remove the hard water build up. We don't rinse it off and it's almost like a moisturizing toner. Sometimes we use it after already double cleansing.
Hi, do you ever use it to remove a lot of makeup as well? They say that women in France don't like to wear full face of heavy foundation every day. And what brand is the most popular in France in you opinion- the original bioderma? So if I understood correctly you sometimes use it like I use my toner. After splashing with the hard water you wipe micellar water to wipe it off and bring down the pH of the skin again.
@@florist7743 it depends on how much makeup I've been wearing and how lazy I am to be honest. If I'm wearing very heavy makeup, sunscreen, mascara, I usually use an oil cleanser, and then in the shower I use a lightly foaming one. Then when I get out of the shower I dry my face and use micellar water just to remove the hard water deposits. If I'm lazy or not wearing a lot of makeup I only use the micellar water at night and it's completely fine. Bioderma with the pink lid for sensitive skin is the most popular one. I buy when it's on sale and it ends up being around 5-6 euros for a big 500ml bottles. Actually Lab Muffin just released a video a few days ago talking about micellar water too if you're interested. Oh btw it doesn't change the ph of the skin the way some Asian toners do though.
@@Ichmochtekunst we here in texas have horribly hard water and I too use it as a toner. It actually works better than anything I’ve tried and I’ve wasted thousands of dollars
I used to swear by Micellar water but I eventually (after 2 years of use) started to get allergic reactions around my eyes and had to stop. Very interesting video!
I wash with micellar water in the morning, and at night I do a double cleanse with mineral oil and foam cleanser. Oh, and I always rinse it off...I think it is beneficial in the morning, when you might feel too groggy or in a hurry. I reserve the pampering for the night routine :)
I’ve been using the Sephora brand Micellar with zinc! I have super sensitive reactive skin and it does not irritate my skin and does not burn my eyes. It’s $12. I also use the Kopari cleansing oil and it is super gentle and soothing. Does not cloud my eyes like some of the balms do.
This was good. As someone who hates rinsing my face with water micellar water is very nice because it makes me cleanse my face much more than I otherwise would. I usually wipe with micellar water, then wipe with plain water. If I have used makeup or lots of sunscreen I sometimes use whatever oil I have (usually argan, but lately rosehip seed, because I didn't enjoy it as a facial oil and want to use it up) first to break it up, then the micellar water to remove the oil-dirt/makeup/suncreen gunk (or one of those dreaded wipes, but I prefer the micellar water), then wipe with water. The analogue to no-poo hair washing was very useful. Makes me feel much better, because I do use a mild, general cleanser and/or a cleansing milk 2-3 times a week in the shower. But there is no way I would do that daily, it is just not something I enjoy at all. Don't find the Garnier micellar water irritating at all. Have tried a few others, one stung and felt very drying, but most have been fine. The Garnier is just easy, cheap, and readily available.
I am currently using Bioderma - Sensibio Milk - Cleansing and Make-Up Removing - for Sensitive Skin as a first step and follow with cerave hydrating facial cleanser. It’s helped so much with my very dry skin. Thanks for the video.
Would you consider doing an updated Best Cleansing Oils and Cleansing Balms series, or video? Are there any brands that you've newly discovered since the first two that you made? I'm curious. Thanks for this video!
This is so helpful. I have a number of hypersensitivities and I thought I was a lone wolf feeling like micellar water was a nightmare. I do an oil cleanse now but will move to a double cleanse
I'm using the Neogen Real Cica Micellar Cleansing Water this summer. It has panthenol, centella asiatica extract, asiaticoside, madecassoside, and ceramides. It's refreshing and soothing and removes sunscreen really well. I love oils and balms in the fall/winter but prefer a cleansing water in the summer when it's hot and humid. Of course I always rinse and follow up with a regular cleanser.
Same and Clinique one was so irritating for my skin. It broke me out like no other. I’ve tried dermalogica pre cleanse one, Korean ones and still no luck
After discovering Dr Dray last year , I became a huge supporter on double cleansing. It is a really important step. I keep going back to Vanicream cleanser which is hydrating. Target has their own brand of 3 in 1 microcellular water that is inexpensive , hydrating and does remove excess sunblock left on your skin. Highly recommend trying it!
I started using a Micellar water about 4 months ago. Winter had arrived. And instead of a full face of makeup, I was only using a light dusting of powder. So I thought Micellar water would be quicker as my first cleans, rather. than a cleansing balm. After a while I noticed I was getting strange blackheads in places I 'd never even had blackheads before. And I started getting random massive spots. They always had at least two heads, sometimes three. Because I always did a second cleans and washed the Micellar water off. It took me ages before I suspected the Micellar water of causing my acne. Now I'm back to using an Oil Balm every night as a first cleans. And then a face wash. Blackeheads and acne are no longer a problem. I like to use... THE ORDINARY Squalane Cleanser + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing just a bit of powder makeup ) THE INKEY LIST Oat Cleansing Balm + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing quite a bit of makeup ) Clinique Take The Day Off Cleansing Balm + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing a full face of makeup ) I have super oily acne prone skin!
I’m 60 with Rosacea and use full coverage foundation - I started using Micellar water because I thought I could replace it as a Toner and as a last step in my cleansing routine and to remove any traces of makeup. I then realized that after watching TH-cam videos and this one, that it’s possibly not the best thing for Rosacea and my dry 60 year old skin. Started using as first step makeup removing instead.
For me, cleansing oil is the best removing any gunks on my face. I used to buy micellar water from any brand but honestly it doesn't really clean up especially when I wear sunscreen
Dear Dr Dray, you're an angel! I moved a year and a half ago to MN, the water is so hard and the winter so long, I took really long and hot showers during the colder months (like 8 months! ) And my face got covered with eczema and acne (even after accutane) I was desperate, but I will take short cold showers from now on... I want my beautiful skin back!
I use micellar water and a cleansing gel most days, but if I'm wearing heavier make up that day, then I go micellar water -> cleansing oil -> cleansing gel. That way I'm sure that the make up has been removed properly, and the cleansing oil nicely nourishes the skin, since wearing make up all day tends to make my skin dry.
I’ve tried both the Bioderma Miceller water and the Clinique cleansing balm. The cleansing balm does a much better job getting all my makeup off. The Bioderma Miceller water made my face feel very filmy after use.
I've never had any drying effects from the micellar water I use (the Garnier pink bottle), and I have quite dry skin.. I find it more drying to wash my face, but we have hard water here in Toronto.
14:30 I dont agree with the "dry skin = sensitive skin" afirmation like is unique for that type of skin. Because i have oily skin and i can tell you is also sensitive (i have seb dermatitis and inflamatory acne some months). "Sensitive" is complementary for any type of skin (dry, balanced, combo, oily) regardless of how much you skin lubricates itself. A lot of people that has oily skin has inflamatory acne and i dont think in that case a foaming or harsher cleanser is ok, we also have to use gentle cleansers. I think people should pick the gentle one if they have some form of irritation/sensitivy on the skin (acné, redness, flaky, etc), regardless of oily/dry type of skin but, if they also happen to have oily or combo type of skin, doing a double gentle cleansing is a must, even if they dont do have to remove make up, and using first micellar/oil and then the gentle cleanser is a nice hack to follow (again even if they have no make up on) instead of doing the double cleansing with the same gentle cleanser in both steps because micelars and oil cleansers are also gentle but on top of that they are better at breaking and getting rid of those extra oils (the natural sebum) of the face.
Micellar water is the holy grail for my skin, i'm a very outdoorsy person and over time your face picks up so much gunk, i also use sunscreen all the time so i use Micellar water with cotton pads to fresh my face up and apply new sunscreen during the mid day, doesn't irritate or anything, it also leaves my skin feeling hydrated, as for every morning and night i use it before my cleanser.
Thank you for this video! I’ve always had the issues you listed with micellar water. It leaves the residue of surfactants and doesn’t remove makeup and sunscreen entirely. We still have to go in with a cleanser after using it. I switched to oil cleanser as my first cleanser years ago 😊
In love the Garnier micellar water with the blue cap. I use a lot of eye makeup, and it removes it well. I do, however, only use regular mascara. I don't like the waterproof stuff.
I use that exact one and it's fantastic, affordable and works great to fresh yourself up mid day without a third cleanse, helps break up the sunscreen apply during the morning to reapply a fresh layer, it has stopped my breakouts in the summer.
I always go to hada labo oil. Love it so much. No fragrance. Mild and easy to apply. Great to remove any stubborn make up, sunscreen, whatever gunks. Easy to rinse off. Micellar water isn't great for me, not properly clean, & I hate using cotton pads to rub my face causing more irritation. Most japanese cleansing oils are the best far I tried. I was skeptical at first, but now I am hooked 👍
I like to cleanse my face with regular cleanser and follow it with the Neutrogena Micellar cleansing jelly and rinse that off. It leave behind a slight residue but I don't get dry skin. I had been using a cleanser that stripped my barrier before I realized what happened and I got the Neutrogena on a whim while waiting on another cleanser in the mail. I used it the night I got it and the next morning my skin was so soft and without any dryness. I decided to give it another week to see if the joy was temporary but so far I'm still surprisingly impressed. I even went back to using my Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser since it also leaves behind a slight barrier to the skin on my body (the reason I quit using it) and now my skin is leas dry. But I also just got a water filter for my shower that I haven't installed yet...soooo...we will see if my water was part of the problem too. Maybe after I install that I will just be as soft as a fresh little marshmallow. lol
Dr. Sam Bunting is of the opposite opinion. She doesn't like double cleanse with oil. She believes it increases the risk of milia especially around the eyes. I have trouble with milia around my eyes and on my eyelids so I was thinking of switching from oil cleansing to micellar water as my first cleanse. I do know that I tried using coconut oil to remove eye makeup and it was horrible. I developed quite a few milia around my eyes. I am actually triple cleansing when I use oil (I am using mineral oil). I wash with face cleanser twice after using oil to make sure I get every bit of oil off my skin to prevent milia.
Coconut oil (i wouldn't use mineral oil either) is bad news for the majority of people on their faces. Dr. Dray is referring to cleansing oils that typically contain a PEG, which allows it to emulsify (very important) and be COMPLETELY rinsed off cleanly. They start off as oils on the face but when water is introduced after massaging in, they turn milky and again, rinse cleanly, followed by a gentle cleanser to actually cleanse the skin. :) Other oils that aren't formulated to emulsify would put you at risk for milia.
Hmmm. I personally find that the Bioderma micellar water I use removes all my makeup and even sunscreen, beautifully. Seems to remove it better than, say, CeraVe hydrating cleanser and about as well as cleansing balms. I can tell everything is removed when I use a cotton pad and it is clean when I wipe my face. I can also tell by the feel of my skin. It's surprising the micellar waters are that gentle, but glad to hear it. It's the ONLY thing that even removes drops of Maybelline Matte Ink liquid lipstick from my stone countertop, even if it's dried on there! :)
@@Oceangirl1234 Yes, I do. If I have a really stubborn waterproof mascara, I hold the cotton pad soaked with the water, on there for 30 seconds or so, then gently wipe a few times. It never stings my eyes. The CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser stings my eyes, unfortunately, and never removed waterproof mascara anyway.
I looked at the Bioderma micellar water on Amazon and noticed it contains propylene glycol. It is a common irritant for many people, and unfortunately is in many toiletries. Bummer. I had been looking for a replacement for my discontinued Kallea facial cleansing wipes.
@@roxyiconoclast It's the third to the last ingredient on my bottle, out of 11 ingredients. But not sure if all the versions are like that. I get the "Sensibio" version "for sensitive skin." I have fairly sensitive, pale skin. Everyone's skin reacts differently though, but this never irritates and I can wipe eye makeup off my eyes with it -- does a great job and never stings. :)
Happy Wednesday, Dr Dray! I bought micellar water when it first came out and really disliked it. Left a coating on my skin. One if the best things I've done for my skin ,thanks to you , was do a double cleanse with Albolene and then Cerave but I do want to try the oat cleansing balm. Thanks and have a peaceful evening. 💚
I have hard water and I noticed that washing my face with the hard water but then wiping down my face with a wash cloth and filtered water has made a huge difference in my skin!
I just use my foaming face wash after using face halo for makeup removal and I just use non water resistant spf50 sunscreen so I don't need any oils .... my skin is extremely oily and I tried using cleansing oils and I realized pretty early that they are not for me .... So I just use 1. Face halo - for makeup removal 2. Purito water comfy spf50 sunscreen 3. Neutrogena foaming cleanser - twice 4. Simple vaseline body lotion with spf - can easily removable with simple soap in the night shower . Good day guys
I've tried brands that made my skin greasy which I hated - but I've also tried brands which do not - one being Simple micellar water - love that one. Leaves your skin feeling nice, clean, and not greasy at all.
I haven't used the Drunk Elephant one, BUT I currently use the IT Miracle Water and LOVE it! Sure didn't think I was going to, but I do! I use that one after an evening shower b/c even though it is a micellar cleanser, it acts as an Essense as well...and I use prior to night-time application of serum's & such! I wash my face in the morning and follow w/ Tacha Essense prior to application of serums & sunscreen..I was a long-time LOVER of the Drunk Elephant Line, but I've switched everything over to DRMTLGY and couldn't be happier!!! (Thanks for your reviews on DRMTLGY is what finally sold me) and I've been loving all...
I love the way micellar water breaks up the layers of sunscreen on my face at the end of the day. I wet a cotton pad w/the product and swipe it over my face. Nothing better (for me) to break up the gunk. My skin is quite greasy (yes, even at age 63), and as much as I've given the balms a try, they're just too goopy for me. I end up scrubbing my face afterwards (GASP!) and I think I do more harm than good. I always wash w/a mild cleanser (Aveeno) after using my micellar cleanse. I rinse w/distilled water. That's just it. So far, so good.
I've tried micellar water, including the Bioderma and yes, I do agree, it doesn't seem to remove everything. Fine as a first step but not very effective with heavy makeup. I have now a Garnier one with 2 phases, to shake before use. This one does seem to remove everything and I quite like it.
I’m curious, if the time ever comes, will you cover grey hair, and if so, what products would you either use or recommend? Your hair is so gorgeous and almost the second star of your videos, next to your flawless complexion!
I’ve tried the DE micellar water. It’s not really even a water texture. It’s more of a serum texture, and it’s great - hydrating, doesn’t feel sticky and doesn’t sting around the eyes for me. But I agree, I don’t think it replaces the act of washing your face.
Thanks for the video! I was always skeptical about the aspect of not washing off your micellar water, but I would anyway. After watching this, I'm glad I listened to my hunch!
I buy 100 percent grape seed oil from the grocery store and it works like a charm to remove my makeup before cleansing my face and is affordable. Bonus it doesn’t break me out or irritate my eyes.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain everything. I've used both and agree with you, I find the cleanser balms followed up a mild cleanser work better for me personally. I never knew exactly why and feel like I understand it better.
I JUST found Miceller water and I'm OBSESSED with it! It IMMEDIATELY made my skin look and feel AMAZING! It DOES remove even the TOUGHEST makeup but even better it just CLEANS EXTREMELY well!!! It also feels very moisturized and i no longer need moisturizer! I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin so this sruff is a HUGE win in just ONE product!!!! ❤❤❤
The thing with cleansing oil is that it is really hard to get it off your skin, especially when compared with micellar water, and the residue may cause breakouts :( not worth it to me
You’re probably not using a good cleansing oil then. Cleansing oils wash off really easily with water, then you can go in with a gentle second cleanser after
as someone whose skin loves micellar water, and hates cleansing balms/oils, it’s so interesting to see how everyone’s skin is so different and it’s great that there are so many options out there!
I agree..everyone's skin is different. My daughter uses it before using her normal cleanser and she swears by it before regularly cleansing her skin. It works for her.
@@audreyevans6660 well of course, because she washes it off afterwards. You should always wash off micellar water, even if the bottle says not to. It's great as a first layer cleanser, but double cleansing is really important.
Every cleanser breaks me out Miscellar water is so gentle to my skin
I use after cleansing because my skin breaks out from washing my face due to the hard water. I’ve been using the Micellar water as a toner and it gets all of the hard water stick from my skin. I’ve narrowed it down to this as the issue because my hair is terribly oily from hard water and I’ve tried everything every shampoo to do something about it and only works with this hard water shampoo
@@Midway2RealityASMR hard water was causing me serious problems. I started using sunflower oil as a buffer when I cleanse my face. And ditching all sulfates made the difference. I remove hard water residue after cleansing with a gentle toner with no cleaning agents. That pretty much cleared up the acne and stopped the inflammation. I wouldn’t use a balm because balms require a lot of cleansing to wash off.
I never understood why the labels on the front says 'no rinse needed' - I mean if the product says can remove make up, oil and dirt, who would want the gunk to sit on the face still? Double cleanse for sure!
I just rinse with water, I only wash my face with soap when I feel like it (usually if I wear makeup because if I dont like triple cleanse I get acne)
This was a lot more gentle on my skin and completely changed it, now I can handle my acne medication without burning my face off and my acne has gone down completely since I can use my prescriptions right and my face isn't as reactive
I'd guess it's because it keeps a lot of natural oils, I've tried gentle cleansers but I'd feel oily or would break out
I think some people use it like a toner.
That's dumb, sounds like you fell into some 'chemicals are bad' fallacy. The sufactant found in micellar water is the same one found in many Creams and lotions, it is completely fine to leave it on your face. Plus micellar water is popular in areas with hard water to remove the build ups, rinsing it off with water would just defeat the purpose
@@Ichmochtekunst Bestie cleansers and creams are not used the same? Theyre not saying its toxic because evil chemicals, the point is that they would want to rinse the gunk they were aiming to remove from their face off. And just because thats what they were made to do (re: hard water), doesnt mean its the best option, Dr Dray herself has argued this.
@@Ichmochtekunst Just realized saying bestie came off weird bad habit lol didnt mean to come off as condescending
Thanks for another detailed and balanced video! I'm a fan of oil cleansers too
Hi Liah!! Very big fan :) I recently subbed to Dr Dray cuz she's so informative and an amazing person in general
I use micellar water because I only use sunscreen .It breaks down all sunscreen .then I use a gentle cleanser.
Cleansing balm removes waterproof makeup and sunscreen better than micellar water
Same . I don’t see to point to to switch. I don’t wear makeup only sunscreen and I find micellar water to remove it all and then I use my cleanser so my face clean for sure . Works great for me .
i get comedones and inflamed hair follicles from cleansing balms and oils thats why i use micellarcwater
If it works for you that’s awesome. I use whatever I happen to have. Right now it’s micellar. It works just fine for me too
Same. I use Micellar water to loosen up my makeup and sunscreen, then follow it up with a cleanser. The cleansing balms are more expensive and I'm already spending so much in other skincare products to combat other skin issues, so if Micellar water can do what I need and is cheap, then I'm sticking with it!
I found that oil cleansing gave me more sebaceous filaments on my nose even though I’m double cleansing. My dermatologist told me to stop oil cleansing. Started using the Bioderma micellar water with a cotton pad that has a gentle textured surface and the sebaceous filaments diminished. Absolutely wash off micellar water.
You may want to try a less comedogenic oil, if you try oil cleansing again
My dermatologist said the same asked me to switch from oil to micellar H2O.
My dermatologist too!!! I have the same skin type like you. And double cleanse with Bioderma micellar water and wash with la roche possay helped my skin....
@@i.d.1713 if u don’t mind me asking which la roche cleanser do u use, also what’s ur skin type
Yeah that one is the only I like and I wish I had more lol
I have extremely sensitive skin and have recently found that micellar water is the only thing that works to cleanse my skin. It's good to see what you recommend, especially the fact about washing it after putting it on so it doesn't cause more irritation.
Did you double cleanse????? Your face
I like being informed. I have never liked the feeling after cleaning with micellar waters or wipes.
they seem to just move the dirt around
Thanks Dr. D. I'm converting to your method😉👍 The first time I used micellar water I rinsed my face and felt a whole lot of slimey residue💦😱The other day I decided to do I a third wipe with a cotton pad and was surprised my foundation was still coming off!
@@believeinmagic18 wow! That combined with what Dr D said is enough to convince me to never try miceller water.
What do you think about microfiber face cloths?
@@therobin9901 I used to use them with CeraVe facial cleanser and really liked them.
I don't know why, but EVERY cleaning oil and balm I have tried, dried out my skin severely and gave a lot of irritation. So now I just use Bioderma Sensibio Micellar water.
Exactly
Exact same here!
I love micelar water!! 😬
Same here
Same here! I’ve had the best results with my skin after switching to Micellar water. I’ve never rinsed it off. I’ve never had irritation on my very sensitive fair skin. I have hard water and this product has been awesome.
I use Simple micellar water to remove makeup because it works and does not irritate my eyes. Every cleansing oil or balm I have ever used irritates my eyes. Maybe I will try using the micellar water for eye makeup only and just use the oils or balms to remove the rest of my makeup. I always shower at night and use Cerave cleanser as a double cleanse in the shower.
That’s what I do! Works really well for me
If it works for you, I don't see any reason to change it. Sounds like you've been using it correctly all along.
I use micellar water just to take off most of my eye make up then double cleanse, just because it irritates my eyes less.
Use natural coconut oil is fine as well even petroleum jelly
What about the inkylist oat cleansing balm? It has colloidal oatmeal
I always rinse off my micellar water along with a cleanser and it works well! They're cost-effective compared to cleansing oils. It just works better for my budget as a student (though I occasionally use cleansing oils for removing makeup).
What about having to purchase cotton rounds? It's not so cost effective and very wasteful unless you use reusable pads
For me it's the other way around. My local drugstore has their own version of a cleansing oil and it is dirt cheap. Plus, I haven't bought cotton pads in years. In general, I don't understand when people are being posh with their cleansing products, like, it's going down the drain literally.
@@luvlost03 I try to minimize using cotton pads. Just pour in my palms and massage around my face to break up sunscreen
@@luvlost03 reusable cotton pads are a thing
@@CrazyLeaf012 baby wash cloths are sooo good. So gentle and I got them for free cuz of my past baby shower gifts lol. They work so well with micellar water or using cold cream.
I like using Micellar water as a first cleanse whenever I do double cleanse vs oil cleansers! It should never be left on tho
personally, i use micellar water to break up my makeup before i wash it off. cleansing oils do work, but they don’t last nearly as long as i need them to. keep in mind that this is from the perspective of someone that wears HEAVY full coverage foundation
Thanks for sharing!!
I wear a ton of makeup and these waters do nothing for me lol oil cleansers for life 😃
@@MsTammi125 i stg these do wonders for me. i don’t fw makeup wipes though, they hurt & have an even shorter life span. what micellar waters did you use? i’m just curious
I follow up my micellar water with a wet microfiber towel and consider that my rinse...I avoid splashing water on my face/eyes in the late evening when i remove my sunscreen because it wakes me up. That is my solution to this all-day wearing sunscreen recommendation. Dr Dray, I'd love to know if you think the towel is enough of a rinse.
@@rebella5769 She has some older videos addressing towels/micro fiber cloths. Just do a search.
I was today years old when I learns that people use mi ellas water and just... leave it on??? Like no rinsing ? I use it as my first step in my double cleaning routine 😅
everyone here in france leaves it on, it's moisturizing and feels great. We've been doing it for many many years with no issues, it's what it was formulated for
I use it as a first step. But not as my only cleanser. I have oily acne prone skin so I cannot use it alone. Cleansing oils are too heavy for my skin
It's bc it says no rinse off but I think it's weird as it still feels like a mild version of the disposable makeup wipe that was always marketed as something you do before washing your face
I am so happy you touched on cowashing. I found this quite insane when I read it in the Curly Girl Handbook but what's more annoying is the judgement on people who decide to continue using a shampoo.
A lot of people alternate between cowashing and shampooing
Hi unfortunately there is a lot of judgement about not following the "CGM" to the letter on some forums. Many curly haired women use a modified form of the cgm that suits their hair best. I alternate one wash with shampoo and the next as a co wash. I have a very dry/eczema prone scalp and dry/course textured hair that craves moisture. Not shampooing every single wash works fine for me and that's the key - finding what works for each of us. When I shampoo I deep condition afterwards, which helps my hair to get enough moisture. Don't worry about the "judgy" few, as most women just want you to find a way to enjoy your curls. I think those with an oilier scalp will need to use shampoo far more often than I do, that's sensible and no judgement from this direction. Best wishes.
ps a channel that embraces shampoo is Manes by Mel. Good luck.
@@lorainemcgillivray77, thank you! I have seen Manes by Mel and love it and have found one CGM group that is more relaxed thankfully 😊
It's nasty and terrible for you to never use shampoo. At some point you have to clarify your scalp with shampoo, no matter what type of hair you have. You can use a cowash too.
I use Malibu C Un-do-goo every 3-5 washes (ManesbyMell and another hair stylist I follow on Twitter both recommended it) and it's changed my life. I use sulfate free shampoos and conditioners in between.
My doctor recommended to use micellar water, you can honestly use one that is for sensitive skin.. does not drain it etc. And follow it up with a cleanser. It is 2 essential steps for cleabing your skin.
I have dry/combination skin and live in a dry climate, this winter I've noticed that switching from double cleansing with oil and cleanser to just using micellar water and rinsing has improved the hydration of my skin A LOT. I have never heard this from any skincare experts, but I just feel like the "like removes like" rule really applies here. What I mean is that I feel like cleansing oils don't just remove the unwanted oils from my face, they remove the oils my skin needs as well. Just a guess from my experience. But this video was very helpful, I will try adding in my cleanser to my night routine after my micellar water to make sure my skin gets clean enough 👍
I think it's great you don't just dismiss micellar water all the way like sooo many people lately. I really don't get this micellar water hate. I have been using it for years as a first step in double cleansing (before it was "a thing"). Personally I much prefer it to oils or balms, they are generally more expensive, either clog my pores or iritate my skin, often get in my eyes which is so annoying, I hate rubbing then on my face and it tends to take long to melt makeup. For me the only downside for micellar water is having to use cotton pads. My favoutites are the basic Garnier micellar water and the Bioderma one.
Do you really have to use cotton pads though? Don't think so, if you're going to rinse regardless. Just put some in your palm (with washed hands) and rinse.
another tip I read was- put the micellar water in a foam dispenser and just cleanse with your hands.
I personally love the Bioderma micellar water and I do rinse it off 🥰
With just water?
In double cleansing: I started having problems with residue when I used the Neutrogena wipes, so I switched to Albolene. I didn’t like the vaseline/oil feeling Albolene left of my skin, so I switched to Neutrogena fragrance-free body oil. I ended up being allergic to the body oil, so I switched to Garnier SkinActive Micellar Cleansing Water and it’s been SO effective!
Except for the wipes, this is me lol. I think micellar water works as a step 1 in a double cleanse fir those w/ oily skin.
@@mimi101 what do you use for step 2? thanks!
@@NatySarG step 2 is a gentle foaming cleanser.
I have rosacea. Using micellar water as the first step of a double cleanse significantly reduced my skin irritation and improved hydration for me. It really helps to break up foundation. If you just pour a little bit into your palm, you can apply it with your fingers. It's significantly less expensive to find a non-irritating, unfragranced micellar water than an oil cleanser and micellar water rinses off the skin with a single splash, as opposed to multiple rinses and finger massage required by oil cleansers.
True👍
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So you don’t use a cotton pad? I just started and I feel it leave my face so dry. I am thinking it could be the cotton pad?
@@gorgeousgoddess79 I actually moved to putting the micellar water in a small spray bottle last year. I just spray it directly onto my skin, no cotton pad, gentle rub with my finger tips, the rinse. My current second step is the la Roche posse toleraine cream cleanser.
@@kmkmkmkmkm9282 Thank you so much for your reply. I will try it. I thought it was the water drying me but I think it could be the cotton. I am new at this skin care stuff, and I am 44! Better late than never. Thanks again!
Sometimes I use heavy makeup and personally, when I do an oil based cleanser it just doesn't remove all of the makeup as I would like it to. I use an oil based when its only sunscreen but when its makeup, I like to use Bioderma's micellar water, then I go in with my oil cleanser and then with my gentle cleanser.
As a makeup wearer I find the garnier micellar water super gentle on my skin, never burns my eyes (been using it for years), and pretty effectively removes makeup. However, I use a lot of powder products lately and find it doesn’t quite break them up as much as I’d like. I do go in with cera ve SA cleanser afterwards and that dissolves any small amounts that might be remaining. I find cleansing balms irritate my eyes and almost make them feel filmy. I may try using the micellar water just around my eyes and test out a cleansing balm for the rest of my makeup then follow up with the cleanser. The thought of a makeup wearer not double cleansing makes me feel so icky 🥴🥴
I Have been loving the Fragrance free ponds cold cream. Thanks dr dray for providing all this lovely information and posting daily.I’m 15 and plan on becoming an aesthetician and am very obsessed with sunscreen.
You are so welcome!
I’ve been using it too. Thanks to Dr.Dray. It works better than anything else I’ve tried and it’s budget friendly.
@@cindyduhon1343 yes it’s amazing I will cry if they ever discontinue it.
Me too. Let's hope it's never discontinued.
That is going to be the next product I try after I finish up my Neutrogena fragrance free body oil. I'm excited to use it!
I have a bottle left for "emergency" mascara removal. However, I find the regular use having a drying effect. Also, my skin changed a bit after giving birth, so I find oil cleansing a better option for me to restore former glory:)
Yeah I was thinking bout buying some micellar water for eye makeup remover since I have lash extensions and sometimes use mascara on them lol
@@Karlakarz Exactly. Not for regular use:)
Since I have to use waterproof eye makeup , I finally discovered what removes it better and is much more economical . Garnier micellar water for waterproof products has never irritated my problematic eyes . I have never used it for anything else and never wiped it on my face . The cleansing I do afterwards always takes everything off .Even very expensive eye makeup removers have many issues besides $$$ so I'm done with everything else . I should have stock in Cera Ve LOL .I am just so glad I found the Garnier and CV . Peoply are always asking me why I don't have any wrinkles ? Easy answer , I started taking care of my skin about 53 yrs. ago .Lots of other health probs but no skin stuff ! BTW I never tried the regular Garnier MW so don't know what Dr Dray tried ..
Micellar water is heavenly! I’ve gone through 6 bottles so far and have never experienced any issues. But I use as a secondary cleanser. I do not rinse. My face never looked better.
OMG. I have super hard water and never thought what it did to my face. Ugh. Thank you so much for teaching us about micellar water. I was curious.
Same. Not sure I feel like taking two showers per day. I did get a filter for my shower but right now I have too much going on to get one for my sink and wouldn’t know if I could anyway. Maybe two showers it is...the second one being even quicker?
I bought a Cerave cleanser and it had a small miceller water sample bundled with it. It was ok, but I didn’t fall in love with it. It’s Hada labo oil or Albolene for me.
Love Albolene!
Man I tried albolene and it didn’t do anything for me- it wasn’t as good at removing my eye makeup as argan oil or other cleansing balms and I felt like my face stayed greasy (not moisturized) even after double cleanse. Plus I got a bunch of little whiteheads after awhile. Such a bummer cause it would have been really cost effective.
@@sarahb6321 -💕 I started using Albolene when Dr Dray recommended it quite awhile ago. I use it only in the dry fall/winter. Humid spring/ summers I switch to the oil.
love how cautiously you choose the words! It feels a lot more realiable! thanks for sharing your knowledge, doc!
I've had acne my whole life and I'm in my 60's. I took every prescription and tried every DYI. Simple cellular cleansing water for sensitive skin has been a god send for me. If you have acne, I highly recommend you give it a try.
My face used to look dull. But later I achieved glowing skin, free from pimples and dark spots, by doing these things. -:
1. Drinking water at least 3 to 4 liters per day.
2. Having carrots or carrot juice daily.
3. Using Littlextra Ricebery face wash daily, which is derived from black rice water known for its superior skin benefits compared to regular white rice water.
4. Joining the gym and sweating a lot.
5. Giving Steam to my face or entire body once every 20 days.
Loved this riceberrry face wash. It cleanses skin deeply, being gentle to skin, and doesn't irritate the skin, not even the eyes. Moreover, it soothes acne, making for an overall positive experience.
I was frustrated with the face wash from himalayan as it didn't solve my acne. Switching to riceberry face wash worked and reduced my acne.
how do you steam ur face?
I have rosacea and have never found a cleansing oil or regular oil that doesn’t exacerbate it. But micellar water works very well for me with no irritation or exacerbation. But I use it like most use cleansing oils: as a first step in a double cleanse. I pour into my palm, massage over skin, rinse off in the shower, then use a gentle cleanser.
Try what i do, do the shower first, your pores will open up real good and primes the skin for cleansing, then when you're done apply the Micellar water and so on, i believe it makes the cleansing process a bit more efficient.
I've been using petrolatum for my waterproof mascara for 2 weeks, it's amazing!!!
I used it in high school and college for the same! It works really well doesn’t it? I use oil now, but this brought back memories!!
Please do a video on recommended cleansing oils. 🙏
I like micellar water, but the fact that some people leave it on their skin is mind boggling. It feels really yucky to me... I need that extra rinse.
Yes extra rinse after a face wash bc water alone will not do it
Soft water has restored my skin and hair! I installed a KDF and soft water filter in my shower last month. Just regenerate it every week and good to go!
I never realized how horrible hard water is. Not a fun or trendy topic but I recommend soft water for everyone.
Which brand filter did you get?
@@janajones7392 water sticks dot com i highly recommend it!
You make great points but for someone who has dry skin like mine which does not tolerate cleansing twice a day, it’s been great to use it in the mornings followed by a quick rinse. My face isn’t all that dirty from just sleeping the night. In the evenings, when there is sunscreen and dirt on the face, then use a cleansing balm + gentle cleanser.
As others have mentioned, the CeraVe Micellar Water has been reformulated and I used it last night for the first time with absolutely no stinging, and it completely removed waterproof mascara (Maybelline WP LashSensational), unlike other Micellar Water I have tried (Garnier 🔘 for waterproof mascara) which stung like crazy. I also tested the brand new CeraVe "Comforting Eye Makeup Remover" (found in-store at Ulta) on the other eye with even better results!
I use a separate eye cleanser from my micellar water. I have a Neutrogena eye makeup remover and use the Simple brand micellar water before using a benzoyl peroxide cleanser. I use the Paulas Choice BHA after all of that and the cotton pads turn out clean with the BHA is I’ve used micellar water, but still take off a bit of dirt and pollutants if I’ve just used the benzoyl peroxide cleanser- even on days where I don’t wear makeup. Good to know that I’ve gotten all the steps right just with my own experimention!
I'd like to know what you would recommend for camping or quick post workout. Skincare for low/no water situations.
Yes, this. Please!
I HATE lots of water on my face. It is just a sensory thing, it feels so unpleasant.
Maybe the makeup eraser cloth (or off brand) with a little Micellar water and a water bottle. Those types of clothes are very gentle.
I’ve brought micellar water with me on camping trips, along with a spray bottle to fill with water and refresh without showering. Just make sure to pack out any cotton pads you’ve used ✨
Micellar water and then rinse off with evian spray
I'm not a Derm or anything like that. But I do have sensitive skin.😅 The bioderma sensibio water is one of the few cleansers I can leave on my skin in these situations.
Spritzig a little but of thermal water and wiping it off afterwards is super nice. But there have been situations where I couldn't do that and I didn't get lesions or pustules with the bioderma.
You read my mind on this one! I have been having this micellar water - oil cleanser debate for a while and have used both as a first cleanse and I have to agree completely with you on the oil removing sunscreen and makeup easier than the micellar. I have used Garnier and Bioderma and found them both to be equally effective. They don’t have any adverse effects on my mature, normal with slightly oily T zone skin, but I do have to work harder to get the mascara off. I do still use the M.W. to take the sunscreen off my neck because it’s less messy at the sink. 😊. Thanks again for this video and validating my results.
I love micellar water, it's amazing and here in France we all use it to remove the hard water build up. We don't rinse it off and it's almost like a moisturizing toner. Sometimes we use it after already double cleansing.
Hi, do you ever use it to remove a lot of makeup as well? They say that women in France don't like to wear full face of heavy foundation every day. And what brand is the most popular in France in you opinion- the original bioderma? So if I understood correctly you sometimes use it like I use my toner. After splashing with the hard water you wipe micellar water to wipe it off and bring down the pH of the skin again.
@@florist7743 it depends on how much makeup I've been wearing and how lazy I am to be honest. If I'm wearing very heavy makeup, sunscreen, mascara, I usually use an oil cleanser, and then in the shower I use a lightly foaming one. Then when I get out of the shower I dry my face and use micellar water just to remove the hard water deposits. If I'm lazy or not wearing a lot of makeup I only use the micellar water at night and it's completely fine.
Bioderma with the pink lid for sensitive skin is the most popular one. I buy when it's on sale and it ends up being around 5-6 euros for a big 500ml bottles. Actually Lab Muffin just released a video a few days ago talking about micellar water too if you're interested. Oh btw it doesn't change the ph of the skin the way some Asian toners do though.
@@Ichmochtekunst we here in texas have horribly hard water and I too use it as a toner. It actually works better than anything I’ve tried and I’ve wasted thousands of dollars
I used to swear by Micellar water but I eventually (after 2 years of use) started to get allergic reactions around my eyes and had to stop. Very interesting video!
I wash with micellar water in the morning, and at night I do a double cleanse with mineral oil and foam cleanser. Oh, and I always rinse it off...I think it is beneficial in the morning, when you might feel too groggy or in a hurry. I reserve the pampering for the night routine :)
I’ve been using the Sephora brand Micellar with zinc! I have super sensitive reactive skin and it does not irritate my skin and does not burn my eyes. It’s $12. I also use the Kopari cleansing oil and it is super gentle and soothing. Does not cloud my eyes like some of the balms do.
This was good.
As someone who hates rinsing my face with water micellar water is very nice because it makes me cleanse my face much more than I otherwise would. I usually wipe with micellar water, then wipe with plain water. If I have used makeup or lots of sunscreen I sometimes use whatever oil I have (usually argan, but lately rosehip seed, because I didn't enjoy it as a facial oil and want to use it up) first to break it up, then the micellar water to remove the oil-dirt/makeup/suncreen gunk (or one of those dreaded wipes, but I prefer the micellar water), then wipe with water.
The analogue to no-poo hair washing was very useful. Makes me feel much better, because I do use a mild, general cleanser and/or a cleansing milk 2-3 times a week in the shower. But there is no way I would do that daily, it is just not something I enjoy at all.
Don't find the Garnier micellar water irritating at all. Have tried a few others, one stung and felt very drying, but most have been fine. The Garnier is just easy, cheap, and readily available.
I am currently using Bioderma - Sensibio Milk - Cleansing and Make-Up Removing - for Sensitive Skin as a first step and follow with cerave hydrating facial cleanser. It’s helped so much with my very dry skin. Thanks for the video.
Would you consider doing an updated Best Cleansing Oils and Cleansing Balms series, or video? Are there any brands that you've newly discovered since the first two that you made? I'm curious. Thanks for this video!
honestly micellar water helped my acne as much as accutane helped it. I love it so much I don’t even wear makeup lol
This is so helpful. I have a number of hypersensitivities and I thought I was a lone wolf feeling like micellar water was a nightmare. I do an oil cleanse now but will move to a double cleanse
I'm using the Neogen Real Cica Micellar Cleansing Water this summer. It has panthenol, centella asiatica extract, asiaticoside, madecassoside, and ceramides. It's refreshing and soothing and removes sunscreen really well. I love oils and balms in the fall/winter but prefer a cleansing water in the summer when it's hot and humid. Of course I always rinse and follow up with a regular cleanser.
I feel like micellar water is more “drying” on my skin now. I liked it more in my early 20s, but I still use it as eye makeup remover
me too! especially the Bioderma! it cleared my skin! I applied it as my toner and on mornings when im lazy to wash my face!😁
I bought micellar water yesterday Cz using cleansing oil on my skin is invitation to pimples
I break out every time I use oil cleanser as first cleanser even though I make sure to wash it off complete
Stefanie Paredes same here
Have you tried the Clinique cleansing balm? I also break out from cleansing oils but not the Clinique balm.
Same and Clinique one was so irritating for my skin. It broke me out like no other. I’ve tried dermalogica pre cleanse one, Korean ones and still no luck
What do you think was irritating in the Clinique cleansing balm? Maybe safflower seed oil?
I love Bioderna Micellar water, it literally takes off everything and then I go in with my cerave cleanser.
SAME
After discovering Dr Dray last year , I became a huge supporter on double cleansing. It is a really important step. I keep going back to Vanicream cleanser which is hydrating. Target has their own brand of 3 in 1 microcellular water that is inexpensive , hydrating and does remove excess sunblock left on your skin. Highly recommend trying it!
I started using a Micellar water about 4 months ago. Winter had arrived. And instead of a full face of makeup, I was only using a light dusting of powder. So I thought Micellar water would be quicker as my first cleans, rather. than a cleansing balm. After a while I noticed I was getting strange blackheads in places I 'd never even had blackheads before. And I started getting random massive spots. They always had at least two heads, sometimes three. Because I always did a second cleans and washed the Micellar water off. It took me ages before I suspected the Micellar water of causing my acne. Now I'm back to using an Oil Balm every night as a first cleans. And then a face wash. Blackeheads and acne are no longer a problem.
I like to use...
THE ORDINARY
Squalane Cleanser + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing just a bit of powder makeup )
THE INKEY LIST
Oat Cleansing Balm + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing quite a bit of makeup )
Clinique Take The Day Off Cleansing Balm + Eucerin DermatoClean Hyaluron Cleansing Gel ( If I'm wearing a full face of makeup )
I have super oily acne prone skin!
I love how you explain things, like being better informed about skin care
I use micellair water as a quick first step to remove mascara. Works fine
I’m 60 with Rosacea and use full coverage foundation - I started using Micellar water because I thought I could replace it as a Toner and as a last step in my cleansing routine and to remove any traces of makeup. I then realized that after watching TH-cam videos and this one, that it’s possibly not the best thing for Rosacea and my dry 60 year old skin. Started using as first step makeup removing instead.
thank you for putting time stamps in the descripsion, makes really easy to go back and refresh my memory :)
I love how granular your time stamps are.
For me, cleansing oil is the best removing any gunks on my face. I used to buy micellar water from any brand but honestly it doesn't really clean up especially when I wear sunscreen
Dear Dr Dray, you're an angel! I moved a year and a half ago to MN, the water is so hard and the winter so long, I took really long and hot showers during the colder months (like 8 months! ) And my face got covered with eczema and acne (even after accutane) I was desperate, but I will take short cold showers from now on... I want my beautiful skin back!
I like a micellar water in the morning if I want more than just a water rinse. I also like it for makeup mess ups , or switching lipstick shades.
I use micellar water and a cleansing gel most days, but if I'm wearing heavier make up that day, then I go micellar water -> cleansing oil -> cleansing gel. That way I'm sure that the make up has been removed properly, and the cleansing oil nicely nourishes the skin, since wearing make up all day tends to make my skin dry.
I love your videos Dr. Dray. I’ve been binge watching for the past week ♥️ Thank you for saving me thousands of dollars on skincare!
Glad you like them!
I’ve tried both the Bioderma Miceller water and the Clinique cleansing balm. The cleansing balm does a much better job getting all my makeup off. The Bioderma Miceller water made my face feel very filmy after use.
I've never had any drying effects from the micellar water I use (the Garnier pink bottle), and I have quite dry skin.. I find it more drying to wash my face, but we have hard water here in Toronto.
14:30 I dont agree with the "dry skin = sensitive skin" afirmation like is unique for that type of skin. Because i have oily skin and i can tell you is also sensitive (i have seb dermatitis and inflamatory acne some months). "Sensitive" is complementary for any type of skin (dry, balanced, combo, oily) regardless of how much you skin lubricates itself. A lot of people that has oily skin has inflamatory acne and i dont think in that case a foaming or harsher cleanser is ok, we also have to use gentle cleansers.
I think people should pick the gentle one if they have some form of irritation/sensitivy on the skin (acné, redness, flaky, etc), regardless of oily/dry type of skin but, if they also happen to have oily or combo type of skin, doing a double gentle cleansing is a must, even if they dont do have to remove make up, and using first micellar/oil and then the gentle cleanser is a nice hack to follow (again even if they have no make up on) instead of doing the double cleansing with the same gentle cleanser in both steps because micelars and oil cleansers are also gentle but on top of that they are better at breaking and getting rid of those extra oils (the natural sebum) of the face.
I appreciate you putting time stamps in the description. ❤❤
Micellar water is the holy grail for my skin, i'm a very outdoorsy person and over time your face picks up so much gunk, i also use sunscreen all the time so i use Micellar water with cotton pads to fresh my face up and apply new sunscreen during the mid day, doesn't irritate or anything, it also leaves my skin feeling hydrated, as for every morning and night i use it before my cleanser.
Thank you for this video! I’ve always had the issues you listed with micellar water. It leaves the residue of surfactants and doesn’t remove makeup and sunscreen entirely. We still have to go in with a cleanser after using it. I switched to oil cleanser as my first cleanser years ago 😊
Love micellar water than oil! It cleans better according to test comparison.
In love the Garnier micellar water with the blue cap. I use a lot of eye makeup, and it removes it well. I do, however, only use regular mascara. I don't like the waterproof stuff.
I use that exact one and it's fantastic, affordable and works great to fresh yourself up mid day without a third cleanse, helps break up the sunscreen apply during the morning to reapply a fresh layer, it has stopped my breakouts in the summer.
I always go to hada labo oil. Love it so much. No fragrance. Mild and easy to apply. Great to remove any stubborn make up, sunscreen, whatever gunks. Easy to rinse off. Micellar water isn't great for me, not properly clean, & I hate using cotton pads to rub my face causing more irritation. Most japanese cleansing oils are the best far I tried. I was skeptical at first, but now I am hooked 👍
Never been this early in my life. Like legit second after post lol. Hi dr dray. Wishing you a good day ahead! Xx
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Happy Wednesday!
I like to cleanse my face with regular cleanser and follow it with the Neutrogena Micellar cleansing jelly and rinse that off. It leave behind a slight residue but I don't get dry skin. I had been using a cleanser that stripped my barrier before I realized what happened and I got the Neutrogena on a whim while waiting on another cleanser in the mail. I used it the night I got it and the next morning my skin was so soft and without any dryness. I decided to give it another week to see if the joy was temporary but so far I'm still surprisingly impressed. I even went back to using my Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser since it also leaves behind a slight barrier to the skin on my body (the reason I quit using it) and now my skin is leas dry. But I also just got a water filter for my shower that I haven't installed yet...soooo...we will see if my water was part of the problem too. Maybe after I install that I will just be as soft as a fresh little marshmallow. lol
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I use micellar water first and Cerave hydrating cleanser as second cleanser. I don’t use any makeup, but sunscreen.
Dr. Sam Bunting is of the opposite opinion. She doesn't like double cleanse with oil. She believes it increases the risk of milia especially around the eyes. I have trouble with milia around my eyes and on my eyelids so I was thinking of switching from oil cleansing to micellar water as my first cleanse. I do know that I tried using coconut oil to remove eye makeup and it was horrible. I developed quite a few milia around my eyes. I am actually triple cleansing when I use oil (I am using mineral oil). I wash with face cleanser twice after using oil to make sure I get every bit of oil off my skin to prevent milia.
Coconut oil (i wouldn't use mineral oil either) is bad news for the majority of people on their faces. Dr. Dray is referring to cleansing oils that typically contain a PEG, which allows it to emulsify (very important) and be COMPLETELY rinsed off cleanly. They start off as oils on the face but when water is introduced after massaging in, they turn milky and again, rinse cleanly, followed by a gentle cleanser to actually cleanse the skin. :) Other oils that aren't formulated to emulsify would put you at risk for milia.
@@wendigo1919 I use mineral oil based off of Dray recommending it as an inexpensive but effective cleansing oil.
@@vesch5083 Hi! which mineral oil-based are you using?
How about using the same micellar water twice as a double cleansing method , while washing it off as a regular cleanser ?
Thanks for your knowledge❤️
I double cleanse. Micellar water and then a cleansing balm.
Hmmm. I personally find that the Bioderma micellar water I use removes all my makeup and even sunscreen, beautifully. Seems to remove it better than, say, CeraVe hydrating cleanser and about as well as cleansing balms. I can tell everything is removed when I use a cotton pad and it is clean when I wipe my face. I can also tell by the feel of my skin. It's surprising the micellar waters are that gentle, but glad to hear it. It's the ONLY thing that even removes drops of Maybelline Matte Ink liquid lipstick from my stone countertop, even if it's dried on there! :)
Do u use it around eyes?
@@Oceangirl1234 Yes, I do. If I have a really stubborn waterproof mascara, I hold the cotton pad soaked with the water, on there for 30 seconds or so, then gently wipe a few times. It never stings my eyes. The CeraVe Hydrating Cleanser stings my eyes, unfortunately, and never removed waterproof mascara anyway.
@@womanofacertainage5892 thank you so much
I looked at the Bioderma micellar water on Amazon and noticed it contains propylene glycol. It is a common irritant for many people, and unfortunately is in many toiletries. Bummer. I had been looking for a replacement for my discontinued Kallea facial cleansing wipes.
@@roxyiconoclast It's the third to the last ingredient on my bottle, out of 11 ingredients. But not sure if all the versions are like that. I get the "Sensibio" version "for sensitive skin." I have fairly sensitive, pale skin. Everyone's skin reacts differently though, but this never irritates and I can wipe eye makeup off my eyes with it -- does a great job and never stings. :)
Happy Wednesday, Dr Dray! I bought micellar water when it first came out and really disliked it. Left a coating on my skin. One if the best things I've done for my skin ,thanks to you , was do a double cleanse with Albolene and then Cerave but I do want to try the oat cleansing balm. Thanks and have a peaceful evening. 💚
I have hard water and I noticed that washing my face with the hard water but then wiping down my face with a wash cloth and filtered water has made a huge difference in my skin!
Dr, when is top 10 avene products video coming. Love and blessings from subcontinent. And I always sunscreen and have subscribed.
I just use my foaming face wash after using face halo for makeup removal and I just use non water resistant spf50 sunscreen so I don't need any oils .... my skin is extremely oily and I tried using cleansing oils and I realized pretty early that they are not for me ....
So I just use
1. Face halo - for makeup removal
2. Purito water comfy spf50 sunscreen
3. Neutrogena foaming cleanser - twice
4. Simple vaseline body lotion with spf - can easily removable with simple soap in the night shower .
Good day guys
I don’t care for micellar water as it makes my skin feel greasy.
Because you have to washing out with other face wash . It’s a makeup remover.
So does an oil cleanser. Actually micellar waters don't make your skin greasy so i don't know where you got that.
Must be the BRAND you used
I've tried brands that made my skin greasy which I hated - but I've also tried brands which do not - one being Simple micellar water - love that one. Leaves your skin feeling nice, clean, and not greasy at all.
@@kimmybrandt that the best one especially the blue one
I haven't used the Drunk Elephant one, BUT I currently use the IT Miracle Water and LOVE it! Sure didn't think I was going to, but I do! I use that one after an evening shower b/c even though it is a micellar cleanser, it acts as an Essense as well...and I use prior to night-time application of serum's & such! I wash my face in the morning and follow w/ Tacha Essense prior to application of serums & sunscreen..I was a long-time LOVER of the Drunk Elephant Line, but I've switched everything over to DRMTLGY and couldn't be happier!!! (Thanks for your reviews on DRMTLGY is what finally sold me) and I've been loving all...
I love the way micellar water breaks up the layers of sunscreen on my face at the end of the day. I wet a cotton pad w/the product and swipe it over my face. Nothing better (for me) to break up the gunk. My skin is quite greasy (yes, even at age 63), and as much as I've given the balms a try, they're just too goopy for me. I end up scrubbing my face afterwards (GASP!) and I think I do more harm than good. I always wash w/a mild cleanser (Aveeno) after using my micellar cleanse. I rinse w/distilled water. That's just it. So far, so good.
I've tried micellar water, including the Bioderma and yes, I do agree, it doesn't seem to remove everything. Fine as a first step but not very effective with heavy makeup. I have now a Garnier one with 2 phases, to shake before use. This one does seem to remove everything and I quite like it.
Hey does garnier micellar water remove sunscreen?
@@shahanazbegum2542 yes
I’m curious, if the time ever comes, will you cover grey hair, and if so, what products would you either use or recommend?
Your hair is so gorgeous and almost the second star of your videos, next to your flawless complexion!
I’ve tried the DE micellar water. It’s not really even a water texture. It’s more of a serum texture, and it’s great - hydrating, doesn’t feel sticky and doesn’t sting around the eyes for me. But I agree, I don’t think it replaces the act of washing your face.
I use both micellar water and oil cleanser.
Same
Thanks for the video! I was always skeptical about the aspect of not washing off your micellar water, but I would anyway. After watching this, I'm glad I listened to my hunch!
thanks for this, doc!
My pleasure!
I buy 100 percent grape seed oil from the grocery store and it works like a charm to remove my makeup before cleansing my face and is affordable. Bonus it doesn’t break me out or irritate my eyes.
Thank you so much for taking the time to explain everything. I've used both and agree with you, I find the cleanser balms followed up a mild cleanser work better for me personally. I never knew exactly why and feel like I understand it better.
I JUST found Miceller water and I'm OBSESSED with it! It IMMEDIATELY made my skin look and feel AMAZING! It DOES remove even the TOUGHEST makeup but even better it just CLEANS EXTREMELY well!!! It also feels very moisturized and i no longer need moisturizer! I have EXTREMELY sensitive skin so this sruff is a HUGE win in just ONE product!!!! ❤❤❤
The thing with cleansing oil is that it is really hard to get it off your skin, especially when compared with micellar water, and the residue may cause breakouts :( not worth it to me
No it's not that hard. It activates really quickly when U splash some water on. It's not like coconut oil.
You’re probably not using a good cleansing oil then. Cleansing oils wash off really easily with water, then you can go in with a gentle second cleanser after
I stay away from cleansing oil, that stuff is nasty, Micellar water and a decent cleanser that works for your skin is all you need.
@@danajones3889 Virgin coconut oil comes off fine for me with warm water.
@@sennataylor592 but some people with large pores think about that even aftet you wash those oils they always stay inside
hey I use miceller water from Garnier the blue one, and then I wash my face with cerave wash, for me it works great removing makeup
And it removes sunscreen effectively? (the micellar water)