In all other sports you have a chance to really prove you're the best by legit scoring points like in Tennis or Boxing. Even in Boxing you can still get robbed but if you really out do your opponents or KO them then there's no robbery. *In Bodybuilding however it's all in judges hands, if all the Mr Olympias from the past 40 years were re-watched and judged again by a panel of Elite 50 Pro Bodybuilders and not some skinny runt, and were really scrutinised to every little detail, then over half of he Mr Olympias titles would have to change hands.*
@@seefeelsixtyninethe sport is in the consistency of improving training performance, nutrition, strict discipline, dedication, mindset, practicing posing routines, and yes PED’s as well. So it whether you approve of the manner of how this is achieved or not, it does qualify as a sport on every level excluding the judging.
@@M1kemac1 there are no scoring criteria- judging is purely subjective-based on a warped set of aesthetics - the competitors display drug filled, unhealthy musclebound bodies, depleted to the point that they are ironically rendered unfit weaklings with shrunken testes, prone to early deaths..
The IFBB destroyed so many careers, Nasser El Sonbaty, Mike Mentzer, Tom Platz, Kai Greene, Serge Nubret, Markus Ruhl etc all this guy were robbed at some point in their careers
Nasser visited the club I worked back around 2000. He looked like an Ivy League Professor, chinos, polo shirt and loafers. He was with a promoter I know. All I can say is he was an absolute gentleman, charming, modest and well mannered. Rest In Peace sir.
@@jaLimon-zr8qi Victor Martinez beat Cutler and also an argument for Phil heath Kevin levrone tells the story of Joe Weider telling him it's all about selling the sport
What do I think about this? I think it was the single biggest travesty to ever occur in professional bodybuilding. Probably bigger than the 1980 Olympia where Arnold had his buddies give him the title coming out of retirement, and then again in 1981 when they gave his buddy Franco (what a surprise, also came out of retirement) the win with HUGE gyno and no legs in sight. Dorian was missing whole muscles. Left bicep- gone, right triceps- gone, tears in both quads, stomach sticking out like a balloon, and also the obliques sticking out. Bodybuilding is a dirty, dirty sport, and in more ways than one. They did Nasser dirty, and it was NOT fair. RIP Mr. El Sonbaty 007
Also Nasser did speak 5 languages I guess. He was not only very good bodybuilder but smart. Just look at his old interviews how carefully he was schoosing words.
Nassoil Syntholbody or Nass Usta-b-somebody was a bitter uppity jerk that fell out with everybody. No back and was BALD. I want my Olympia competitors to have hair
What makes Nasser superior to many is he didn't sell out but was a true champion, the opposite of a politician, the opposite of any charlatan who has governed the sport.
It isn't, it's so full of harmful drugs and chemicals, no regulations whatsoever, rampant politics and you can't make a career out of it without sponsors who are toxic in themselves, it's more like entertainment business than a sport.
@@RR_theproahole well said. powerlifting and strongman competitions are at least based on performance, but bb is subjective and prone to bias and predetermination in its very nature.
I was on the same airplane as Nasser going to the 1995 Olympia in Atlanta. He was the happiest, funniest, most personable bodybuilder on that plane. No pretense, no arrogance, and so humble. The rest of the guys on that plane thought they were too special to speak to us peons.
@tomfoolery342.....yup, I was there at 95' Mr. Olympia. Stayed at the same hotel with all the top pro-bodybuilders. Saw Nasser sitting around with some other random massive dudes. Tossed him a thumbs-up - waaaaaaay up and he tossed one back at me. Big smile, extremely humble. The man has a beautiful spirit. Solid, stand-up, old-school. 97' Mr. Olympia - Nasser smashed Dorian. His shoulder-to-waist ratio bordered on ridiculous. Insane size and overall conditioning. On the flip, Dorian on stage was a smooth and sloppy mess - No Sexy! Love & Respect_________mykey from toronto
@@mykeylykey4916в 1995 у Дориана была самая лучшая форма. И Нассер соревновался только с Левроном и Реем. А Дориан только с самим собой 1994. Видео предвзято. Дориана поймали на расслабоне.
@Иванов-в5ш Насер был немцем, наполовину сербом, наполовину египтянином, он выступал под югославским флагом в десятилетие западной демонизации сербов в 1990-х. Сербам тогда не разрешалось побеждать, так же как русским не разрешается побеждать сегодня.
Nasser was on the cover of the very first muscle magazine I ever bought, when I was 13 yers old. I was not at all familiar with bodybuilding. I didn't know about any bodybuilders. I had never heard of the Mr. Olympia contest. Seeing him on the cover of a magazine, though, looking like an engineer from the neck up while having the most insane physique I had ever seen... that was enough to get me to buy the magazine and start reading up on what this whole bodybuilding thing was all about.
Dorian was arrogant, self-ego maniac, never liked his attitude and aura. Yes he was good maybe first three shows but then he looked not good at all. Nasser beat him twice actually not once. I really do not like him maybe he is only one I do not like from all from 90s.
I think the main problem here that no one really brings up, is that there is a flaw with the WAY the sport is judged, always has been and has led to many poor decisions. If all we do is really compare 7 poses between the athletes... then you get outcomes like this. Consider the following; FDB Nasser FLS Dorian RDB Dorian RLS Dorian SC Nasser ST Dorian Ab&Thigh Nasser So, here we have an outcome where you could justifiable argue DY won, because he won more mandatory poses. Adding in an 8th MM mandatory pose isn't really going to change outcomes, and a 'Relaxed' quarter twist round isn't going to really be a huge factor either. DY can win with a very asymmetrical physique, because its really only a identifiable weakness in ONE pose. That's a problem. Proportions are rarely judged properly as well, these days guys with shitty calves and forearms get away scot-free.. I don't have all the answers... but perhaps a ranking point system that instead of simply placing one ahead of the other in a pose, there is a DEGREE of how much better one is in that pose. For example, if the Front Double Bicep was now judged on a scale of 1/5 (5 being excellent), then placings my look like this; FDB: N 5, DY 1 (on the account it is so awful) FLS: N 3, DY 5 RDB: N 2, DY 4 RLS: N 2, DY 5 SC: N 4, DY 3 ST: N 3, DY 4 Ab&Th: N 5, DY 2 Score: N = 24, DY= 24 (so now we have a point draw, despite DY winning more rounds, but he loses BADLY in one pose and it really hurts his chance of winning, seems fair to me) And then a Relaxed round the same; Front: N 5, DY 2 Side L: N 3, DY 2 Side R: N 3, DY 2 Rear: N 3, DY 4 Score: N = 14, DY = 10 Total Score: N = 38, DY = 34 So now overall we have Nasser winning overall, on the account he wins 3/7 poses and 3/4 of the Relaxed ones. Had DY had a proper FDB, less bloated belly, then things would be much closer, which seems about right. So yeh... something has to change. Simply putting one ahead on the pose isn't enough and you can come out with decisions that just don't make sense..
@StrongerThanTheWorld lololol Nasser beat him handily in EVERY pose aside from maybe...MAYBE rear lat spread. His lats are bigger, he just lacked some of the size and definition in the erectors and rhomboids. Nasser DESTROYED him... And I am a bit of a Dorian fanboy.
Yup half of Dorian’s Olympia wins are fraudulent he shouldve lost in 94 to Shawn ray and Kevin, 96 to Shawn and Nasser and 97 to Nasser Shawn and Kevin
Nasser always sounded very kind, and humble when he spoke…. I think he could have surpassed Jay Cutler in retirement in popularity if he hadn’t passed away He just spoke so beautifully ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Incredible rear delts, one of the reasons he had no back, all His pulling movements were bicep and rear delt dominant, take a look at battle for Olympia 96 when he’s training back with Charles glass, only his rear delts are flexing on his pull downs
Yeah i wish it was simpler to know how you could fucking do that with your physique. I gotta try and isolate my rear delts with cable pull downs but i just do pull ups instead. Maybe one day ill figure it out.
@@bigmikeobama5314 yeah I used to buy all the bodybuilding magazines thinking those guys were natural(because they said so). They just worked a lot harder than me and I wasn't working hard enough. So I'd end up almost collapsing on the stairs exiting the gym and sometimes sore for two weeks.
My gut feeling was to be extremely frustrated due to the unfairness of his situation. However, I think it is more of a tragic lesson. You can never win with skill alone in a subjective competition due to the human element. People skills should never be overlooked and paying close attention to your connections is imperative. Keep a healthy social circle guys.
1997 Naseer looked better in this video... but did he look better in the eyes of the judges? Dorian one guy Naseer cant beat.. u try any variation.. Dorian will win... Torn biceps.. torn triceps.. torn legs.. still he will win onstage 1997.. Naseer no way !!
Nasser was more muscular from the front but i felt Dorian had slightly better technique to hit the mandatory poses better. Basically Nasser wins from the front but Dorians wins from the back. Still Nasser should have won as he has more definition in his abs and delts and also his front double Bicep blew Dorian out of the water. Nassers quads were also more muscular. Nasser just looked better. R.I.P Nasser true 1997 Mr.Olympia.
Nasser was genetic freak... but judges was blind and give Dorian wins,there will always be injustice and bias in bodybuilding,Rip legend,but LEGEND NEVER DIE 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
They were not blind its all about money and scamming and what sponsors will pay for that win lol mr o has been corrupt since the 70s maybe even before that
Even someone who has no idea of bodybuilding can literally just see the difference between Nasser and Dorian shape, size and symmetry. How tf was Dorian even crowned? This is just unfair!
Nasser spent years of extreme hard work to look flawless, and made Dorian look like an amateur standing next to him! But the clowns (AKA judges) still gave the crown to Dorian!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 sad boy sad Number 1 is nasser el s… Look at him there is no Beaty nothing nada.. Just a sterioid freak I wasn’t a fan of Dorian too but if nasser would won it’s a message that everybody with synthol could win .. Look at his biceps maybe more did it but he blow up his arms to the fullest .. Girls like you never understand a certain thing calls proportion.. Look at Shawn ray he was small yes very small but it was a Genetik 🧬 freak .. it’s a huge difference to have a nice physike like Arnold nice poses no bubble gut or just be a huge muscle monster full of sybthol like nasser ..
Maybe that’s why last 6-7 years since Phil Heath retired the Olympia has been different. We have 6 people winning in the last 7 years. I think this is the correct approach instead of handing the trophy to one guy year after year in spite of the guy’s physique deteriorating over time.
Nasser would always follow a scientific and metabolic approach. His 1999 daily diet plan is below: Meal 1 - 10 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, whole wheat toast Meal 2 - (pre-workout) protein shake, fruit Meal 3 - (post-workout) protein shake Meal 4 - 12 oz. chicken breast, brown rice or yams Meal 5 - 12 oz. steak, salad, yams Meal 6 - 10 oz. steak or cottage cheese
It was politics, but lets not pretend that Ronnie didn't have like 2/3 robberies mixed in his run. If you're profitable for them, then they will do whatever it takes to make sure it remains with you. Don't get me wrong, Ronnie robberies weren't as bad (until later years) but a robbery is a robbery no two ways to look at it. Ronnie wasn't dethroned as long as he was because he was the profitable guy just like Dorian.
He shouldn’t win at least 4 olympia 2001-2005, i think they wanted to have more suspense in the mr olympia and that’s why they didn't let Jay Cutler win until they get the best money possible from this rivalry
What I find interesting is how delusional the winners are, in their minds, it's the word of god. Never some humility and saying "Yeah he should have won but I won"
legend in the interviews after losing his peak: do you have to anything to say to the newbies: NO his mind: (RIGGED AH BS SPORT, I CAN ONLY WARN Y'ALL, JUST DON'T (NO!!!!!!!)
arnolds "comback" win was just as bad a decision ,the judging has always been questionable . you start to compete you know the history you know what's going to happen.if the important people like you your going to do well ,if they don't ,there aint any point being there.
Besides Dorian's injuries on stage, Nasser had a better looking midsection (abs), right in the middle of the body where your eyes notice. Especially impressive for a real mass monster.
These bodybuilders were on top of the world you can tell they were proud of being admired with no clothes on. Lots of vanity. Is it really worth it if your life is cut short this way ?? 😳😳
for them yes, it is. they have been immortalized for doing something worthy lf remembering, rather than living forever because they sat around and watched tv paycheck to paycheck.
Guys there where 7 compulsory poses.Dorian won FLS,ST,BDB and BLS.Thats 4 out of 7 and since 4>3 thats your winner.That is the flaw with BBing judging.Clearly Nasser was better that night and he deserved the win.
I worked as a bouncer with Nasser in 1985. His nickname was "Jimmy". He was 100 kg 220 lbs but already impressive CHARISMA. He threw out 10 guys 2 of them bullies. Alone. I did not help because he played their minds better than any studied psychologist. They left trembling...He also had heavy ko power in his hits if needed. So awful Dorian accepted that con versus Nasser.
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 Der war doch auch Türsteher im Roxy in Stuttgart , Königsstraße ...habe zu der Zeit in LB gewohnt . War damals schon bekannt der Nasser .
@@holgermuller866 In several places. Especially where true psychos went for trouble. 1993/1994 he vanished for good reasons and resurfaced at Weider territory CA. LA or some other city
Intrigue like in politics. Naser was half Serb, half Egyptian, and that wasn't possible at the time. His compatriot Sarcev understood this very quickly
I think u have to point the finger at the federation. As off as Dorian was with the injuries he had he didn't judge himself as the winner. Politics of course yes and nasser was the better athlete on that day but it's the fault of the guys judging.
The IFBB has fixed many of its Olympias. This is well known. 80 and 81 are the most famous. It's not an ethically upright organization; they play favourites. It's all politics.
@@ryancalhoun4671 Yes. 07 = Victor Martinez (it is said) should have won. 81 = Tom Platz (it is said) should have won. Or Danny Padilla. 1997 = El Sonbaty (it is said) should have won. The controversies stem from the audience and public preferring a different contestant than the judges, and the contests thought to be rigged by the IFBB -- which is probably the case. Weider wants a Mr Olympia who was marketable and for whatever reason the guys who should have won were not considered as marketable as those who did.
In all other sports you have a chance to really prove you're the best by legit scoring points like in Tennis or Boxing. Even in Boxing you can still get robbed but if you really out do your opponents or KO them then there's no robbery. *In Bodybuilding however it's all in judges hands, if all the Mr Olympias from the past 40 years were re-watched and judged again by a panel of Elite 50 Pro Bodybuilders and not some skinny runt, and were really scrutinised to every little detail, then over half of he Mr Olympias titles would have to change hands.*
💯The sport is subjective, that's why there should be real rules that everyone knows, just like in any other sport.
@@StrongerThanTheWorld its not a sport, its a beauty pageant
@@seefeelsixtyninethe sport is in the consistency of improving training performance, nutrition, strict discipline, dedication, mindset, practicing posing routines, and yes PED’s as well. So it whether you approve of the manner of how this is achieved or not, it does qualify as a sport on every level excluding the judging.
@@M1kemac1 there are no scoring criteria- judging is purely subjective-based on a warped set of aesthetics - the competitors display drug filled, unhealthy musclebound bodies, depleted to the point that they are ironically rendered unfit weaklings with shrunken testes, prone to early deaths..
thats why bodybuilding is not a sport is a beauty pageant
The IFBB destroyed so many careers, Nasser El Sonbaty, Mike Mentzer, Tom Platz, Kai Greene, Serge Nubret, Markus Ruhl etc all this guy were robbed at some point in their careers
Kevon Levrone
Kal Szkalak
Can't forget Lee priest
If your name isn’t white you ain’t winning mr Olympia back in the days
all dead from drugs, suicide, gambling and chronic pain. bodybuilding ruined their lives
it was fucking politics... the judges should be banned for life! ifbb shit
I know i should have won the show even though I was not in it!!
Pro sports is about making money, not fair play.
Look at the NBA and the NFL. If you haven't figured out that they are fixed, well....
well bodybuilding is a fkn beauty contest there is no fairness in subjective opinions of some judges
Nah , they always give raining Me Olympia one last win. They did that with Ronnie and Phil Heath. Their final wins they were not in the best shape.
Nasser does look better than Yates，but a person who has injected Synthol all over their body should not become Mr. Olympia.
Nasser visited the club I worked back around 2000. He looked like an Ivy League Professor, chinos, polo shirt and loafers. He was with a promoter I know. All I can say is he was an absolute gentleman, charming, modest and well mannered. Rest In Peace sir.
Every multiple Mr Olympia winner won titles they didn't deserve
Ferrigno was better than Schwarzenegger too.
yeah tbh, yates, arnold and ronnie, they all have controversial wins under their belts
I can't think of one which Haney wasn't at least as good as his closest competitor
i dont think so... what about Jay Cutler?
@@jaLimon-zr8qi Victor Martinez beat Cutler and also an argument for Phil heath Kevin levrone tells the story of Joe Weider telling him it's all about selling the sport
That dirtiest of arenas: politics
What do I think about this?
I think it was the single biggest travesty to ever occur in professional bodybuilding. Probably bigger than the 1980 Olympia where Arnold had his buddies give him the title coming out of retirement, and then again in 1981 when they gave his buddy Franco (what a surprise, also came out of retirement) the win with HUGE gyno and no legs in sight.
Dorian was missing whole muscles. Left bicep- gone, right triceps- gone, tears in both quads, stomach sticking out like a balloon, and also the obliques sticking out.
Bodybuilding is a dirty, dirty sport, and in more ways than one.
They did Nasser dirty, and it was NOT fair.
RIP Mr. El Sonbaty
007
Also Nasser did speak 5 languages I guess. He was not only very good bodybuilder but smart. Just look at his old interviews how carefully he was schoosing words.
Bb is not sport, it s beauty concourse woth subjective judges.
Sport is about stronger, higher, faster, skill.
Nasser was a true legend. RIP. Olympia winner no doubts.
Nasser got robbed on stage that year, RIP
Jamais de la vie impossible
Facts
@@MarcoManavella-my7yg E N G L I S H !!!!
And bertil fox was robbed in 1983...padilla in 1981...mentzer in 1980...a "sport"based on opinions leads to controversial outcomes
Nassoil Syntholbody or Nass Usta-b-somebody was a bitter uppity jerk that fell out with everybody. No back and was BALD. I want my Olympia competitors to have hair
Coleman is just class, he never cusses anybody no matter what.
He never needed to
Kind, speaks 3 langs, former police, leg-preased 2250lbs, natty for a long time, humble, funny 😎🙏🏽
What makes Nasser superior to many is he didn't sell out but was a true champion, the opposite of a politician, the opposite of any charlatan who has governed the sport.
judges obviously already decided beforehand.its hard to see bodybuilding as a real sport with shit like this happening.
It isn't, it's so full of harmful drugs and chemicals, no regulations whatsoever, rampant politics and you can't make a career out of it without sponsors who are toxic in themselves, it's more like entertainment business than a sport.
@@RR_theproahole well said. powerlifting and strongman competitions are at least based on performance, but bb is subjective and prone to bias and predetermination in its very nature.
I was on the same airplane as Nasser going to the 1995 Olympia in Atlanta. He was the happiest, funniest, most personable bodybuilder on that plane. No pretense, no arrogance, and so humble. The rest of the guys on that plane thought they were too special to speak to us peons.
@tomfoolery342.....yup, I was there at 95' Mr. Olympia. Stayed at the same hotel with all the top pro-bodybuilders. Saw Nasser sitting around with some other random massive dudes.
Tossed him a thumbs-up - waaaaaaay up and he tossed one back at me. Big smile, extremely humble. The man has a beautiful spirit. Solid, stand-up, old-school.
97' Mr. Olympia - Nasser smashed Dorian. His shoulder-to-waist ratio bordered on ridiculous. Insane size and overall conditioning.
On the flip, Dorian on stage was a smooth and sloppy mess - No Sexy!
Love & Respect_________mykey from toronto
Peons are the lowest 😄
@@mykeylykey4916в 1995 у Дориана была самая лучшая форма. И Нассер соревновался только с Левроном и Реем. А Дориан только с самим собой 1994. Видео предвзято. Дориана поймали на расслабоне.
@@Иванов-в5ш He was hiding his torn bicep in every pose!! Note, Nasser didn't have a torn bicep, soooooooooo
@Иванов-в5ш Насер был немцем, наполовину сербом, наполовину египтянином, он выступал под югославским флагом в десятилетие западной демонизации сербов в 1990-х. Сербам тогда не разрешалось побеждать, так же как русским не разрешается побеждать сегодня.
Nasser was on the cover of the very first muscle magazine I ever bought, when I was 13 yers old. I was not at all familiar with bodybuilding. I didn't know about any bodybuilders. I had never heard of the Mr. Olympia contest. Seeing him on the cover of a magazine, though, looking like an engineer from the neck up while having the most insane physique I had ever seen... that was enough to get me to buy the magazine and start reading up on what this whole bodybuilding thing was all about.
Dorian calls Nasser two-faced? Really?
Dorian, who kept telling everyone how his wife was so important to him, but he cheated on her a lot.
Is that right? I always wondered about the personal stuff that happened between DY and Debbie. How do you know this may I ask?
@@SummersSnapsyes how?
How???
Dorian was arrogant, self-ego maniac, never liked his attitude and aura. Yes he was good maybe first three shows but then he looked not good at all. Nasser beat him twice actually not once. I really do not like him maybe he is only one I do not like from all from 90s.
@@hefaistoss1 Yates physique is just not good
The truth is that Dorian didn't deserve the titles of 1996, much less 1997!
Insane lats but otherwise he was destroyed due to injuries!
Facts 💯💯
Yes he did derserve those titles !
I think the main problem here that no one really brings up, is that there is a flaw with the WAY the sport is judged, always has been and has led to many poor decisions. If all we do is really compare 7 poses between the athletes... then you get outcomes like this.
Consider the following;
FDB Nasser
FLS Dorian
RDB Dorian
RLS Dorian
SC Nasser
ST Dorian
Ab&Thigh Nasser
So, here we have an outcome where you could justifiable argue DY won, because he won more mandatory poses. Adding in an 8th MM mandatory pose isn't really going to change outcomes, and a 'Relaxed' quarter twist round isn't going to really be a huge factor either.
DY can win with a very asymmetrical physique, because its really only a identifiable weakness in ONE pose. That's a problem.
Proportions are rarely judged properly as well, these days guys with shitty calves and forearms get away scot-free..
I don't have all the answers... but perhaps a ranking point system that instead of simply placing one ahead of the other in a pose, there is a DEGREE of how much better one is in that pose. For example, if the Front Double Bicep was now judged on a scale of 1/5 (5 being excellent), then placings my look like this;
FDB: N 5, DY 1 (on the account it is so awful)
FLS: N 3, DY 5
RDB: N 2, DY 4
RLS: N 2, DY 5
SC: N 4, DY 3
ST: N 3, DY 4
Ab&Th: N 5, DY 2
Score: N = 24, DY= 24
(so now we have a point draw, despite DY winning more rounds, but he loses BADLY in one pose and it really hurts his chance of winning, seems fair to me)
And then a Relaxed round the same;
Front: N 5, DY 2
Side L: N 3, DY 2
Side R: N 3, DY 2
Rear: N 3, DY 4
Score: N = 14, DY = 10
Total Score: N = 38, DY = 34
So now overall we have Nasser winning overall, on the account he wins 3/7 poses and 3/4 of the Relaxed ones. Had DY had a proper FDB, less bloated belly, then things would be much closer, which seems about right.
So yeh... something has to change. Simply putting one ahead on the pose isn't enough and you can come out with decisions that just don't make sense..
Bro, you should be the head judge of the IFBB 👏👏
@StrongerThanTheWorld lololol Nasser beat him handily in EVERY pose aside from maybe...MAYBE rear lat spread. His lats are bigger, he just lacked some of the size and definition in the erectors and rhomboids. Nasser DESTROYED him... And I am a bit of a Dorian fanboy.
He beat the hell out of Yates 100%
He didn't
@@stevielowe2853 hehe
You can hear a man yell yates when 2nd place was being announced.
Probably his training partner
One of my favorite characters in bodybuilding, Rip Nasser 🙏
U can see the pain when he refused to say anything to the reporters....ice cold.!
The same with Shawn Ray, I think Dorian Yates won a few "extra" Olympias.
1994 for sure.
Yup half of Dorian’s Olympia wins are fraudulent he shouldve lost in 94 to Shawn ray and Kevin, 96 to Shawn and Nasser and 97 to Nasser Shawn and Kevin
@@Chocolatesauce._He's still a legend but you are correct
Nasser always sounded very kind, and humble when he spoke….
I think he could have surpassed Jay Cutler in retirement in popularity if he hadn’t passed away
He just spoke so beautifully ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
hey man this was a great video. I love how you narrated it and put it together. Love the accent too! He was my gav from that era.
Very underrated bodybuilder. He was a beast.
With Nasser's back - no chance to win Mr. O. Dorian's back is awesome!
Man nobody ever mentions how fucking huge paul dillets rear delts are. Thats fucking one of a kind
Incredible rear delts, one of the reasons he had no back, all
His pulling movements were bicep and rear delt dominant, take a look at battle for Olympia 96 when he’s training back with Charles glass, only his rear delts are flexing on his pull downs
Yeah i wish it was simpler to know how you could fucking do that with your physique. I gotta try and isolate my rear delts with cable pull downs but i just do pull ups instead. Maybe one day ill figure it out.
Psul dillet never curled more than 40lb dumbells or benched more than 285lbs
Didnt know that. What about curls on a cable stack
REST IN PEACE BROTHER. YOU WERE MY FAVORITE. MY OLDEST SON ALWAYS SAID YOU REMINDED ME HIM. FKIN IFBB
Nasser was always my favorite
They pic a poster boy to carry the mantle for a few years until they tire of him.
correct. nasser wasnt a face or name that was as easily marketable, and he didnt hide and lie about ped use. the entire "sport" is pure political bs
@@bigmikeobama5314 yeah I used to buy all the bodybuilding magazines thinking those guys were natural(because they said so). They just worked a lot harder than me and I wasn't working hard enough. So I'd end up almost collapsing on the stairs exiting the gym and sometimes sore for two weeks.
You sir gained a subscriber for this one
Thank you 🙏
NASSER, WAS RIPPED, AND BREATHTAKING WITH HUGH MUSCULAR BODY. HE WAS NO 1 THAT YEAR
Nasser was a great bodybuilder. Ronnie always ranked him high
Olympia is, and has always been a popularity contest at it's core.
I wanted to meet with Nasser El Sonbaty before he passed, I was in San Diego at that time. Cool bodybuilder! 🎉
1980-Arnold, 1981-Franco ,1997-Dorian,1999-Ronnie didn't deserve the Title
Hadi was good but Derik won from the back, Hadi is good but Samson had good structure, Mr. robbery Olympia. history repeats itself.
😂😂
The greatest gift for people is when no one demands anything from them.
Dorian won more poses than Nasser.
Also he had better condition.
Nasser had synthol, bad condition
wow you took reference from Tom8er! instant respect... I'm subbing
Tom8er is the goat lol
My gut feeling was to be extremely frustrated due to the unfairness of his situation. However, I think it is more of a tragic lesson. You can never win with skill alone in a subjective competition due to the human element. People skills should never be overlooked and paying close attention to your connections is imperative. Keep a healthy social circle guys.
Great video brother!!
Nick Walker is currently 3.5 months pregnant.
His midsection looks like a hand grenade in every aspect 😂😂
@@StrongerThanTheWorldlol..cant wait to go and look now lol..😂
I feel so sorry for senator Armstrong🥺
No wonder that he becomes the bad guy after all of this
i came here to know how he was pregnant....
Same
1997 Naseer looked better in this video... but did he look better in the eyes of the judges?
Dorian one guy Naseer cant beat.. u try any variation.. Dorian will win...
Torn biceps.. torn triceps.. torn legs.. still he will win onstage 1997.. Naseer no way !!
Nasser was more muscular from the front but i felt Dorian had slightly better technique to hit the mandatory poses better.
Basically Nasser wins from the front but Dorians wins from the back.
Still Nasser should have won as he has more definition in his abs and delts and also his front double Bicep blew Dorian out of the water.
Nassers quads were also more muscular.
Nasser just looked better.
R.I.P Nasser true 1997 Mr.Olympia.
Nasser was genetic freak... but judges was blind and give Dorian wins,there will always be injustice and bias in bodybuilding,Rip legend,but LEGEND NEVER DIE 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
They were not blind its all about money and scamming and what sponsors will pay for that win lol mr o has been corrupt since the 70s maybe even before that
Nasser did beat him and he knows it
Even someone who has no idea of bodybuilding can literally just see the difference between Nasser and Dorian shape, size and symmetry.
How tf was Dorian even crowned? This is just unfair!
Great video. Yes, I never saw that comparison... Robbery.
5:52 - wrong picture, IFBB hated Mike, so after learning everything from MIke, DY dumped him cos IFBB told him to do so
Nasser spent years of extreme hard work to look flawless, and made Dorian look like an amateur standing next to him! But the clowns (AKA judges) still gave the crown to Dorian!
He was clearly, unjustly robbed of the title.
Thanks for the video!
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Nasser El Sonbaty & Markus Rühl the uncrowed kings.
Don't forget Schlierkamp.
@@AlmostAeroGaugeyeah..that time he got 5th in 2002. What a joke
The crowd were pissed.
Dorian yates is the 2ed most overrated bodybuilder ever, Number 1 is Arnold Is Schwarzenegger
😂😂😂😂😂😂 sad boy sad
Number 1 is nasser el s…
Look at him there is no Beaty nothing nada..
Just a sterioid freak
I wasn’t a fan of Dorian too but if nasser would won it’s a message that everybody with synthol could win ..
Look at his biceps maybe more did it but he blow up his arms to the fullest ..
Girls like you never understand a certain thing calls proportion..
Look at Shawn ray he was small yes very small but it was a Genetik 🧬 freak .. it’s a huge difference to have a nice physike like Arnold nice poses no bubble gut or just be a huge muscle monster full of sybthol like nasser ..
So, who do you think the best bodybuilder is?
@@riceflatpicking4954 phil heath , jay cutler
There were 20 years between arnold and yates!!!!
As much as I was an Arnold fanboy back in the day, I could never really say that Arnold should have beaten the Myth. Ever.
The real winner 1995 -1996-1997 for sure🙏🏻
„And the judges say, „he wasn’t big. enough““
Markus ruhl was also robbed
Amazing form at 1:00
Like lee priest he basically said what he wants to and the ifbb banned him
Standing here
I realize
Maybe that’s why last 6-7 years since Phil Heath retired the Olympia has been different. We have 6 people winning in the last 7 years. I think this is the correct approach instead of handing the trophy to one guy year after year in spite of the guy’s physique deteriorating over time.
Nasser would always follow a scientific and metabolic approach. His 1999 daily diet plan is below:
Meal 1 - 10 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, whole wheat toast
Meal 2 - (pre-workout) protein shake, fruit
Meal 3 - (post-workout) protein shake
Meal 4 - 12 oz. chicken breast, brown rice or yams
Meal 5 - 12 oz. steak, salad, yams
Meal 6 - 10 oz. steak or cottage cheese
It was politics, but lets not pretend that Ronnie didn't have like 2/3 robberies mixed in his run. If you're profitable for them, then they will do whatever it takes to make sure it remains with you. Don't get me wrong, Ronnie robberies weren't as bad (until later years) but a robbery is a robbery no two ways to look at it. Ronnie wasn't dethroned as long as he was because he was the profitable guy just like Dorian.
He shouldn’t win at least 4 olympia 2001-2005, i think they wanted to have more suspense in the mr olympia and that’s why they didn't let Jay Cutler win until they get the best money possible from this rivalry
@@StrongerThanTheWorld that's why I don't consider Olympia as a true competition and professional bodybuilding as a real sport it's a joke
Nasser got deducted due to synthol use.
Legend, paid the ultimate price for the ultimate physique RIP Nasser, you won 1997 Olympia.
great video man
What I find interesting is how delusional the winners are, in their minds, it's the word of god. Never some humility and saying "Yeah he should have won but I won"
They would never, because that would cause people to start holding their buddies, (the judges) accountable.
legend in the interviews after losing his peak:
do you have to anything to say to the newbies: NO
his mind: (RIGGED AH BS SPORT, I CAN ONLY WARN Y'ALL, JUST DON'T (NO!!!!!!!)
I think we can all agree, Dorian robbed a few of his titles..
I sometimes change the lyrics of Whitney Houston's "Dance with Somebody." To "Nasser El Sonbaty."
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arnold last win was rigged too
Maybe not in the books. But, to us NASSER WON!
Nasser to this day is one of my favorite Olympians.💪🏻🤘🏻
IFBB International Fitness and Bodybuilding Federation ❌
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Well no one could beat a 1998 Ronnie. To this day thats the best ever Olympia body. After that he just started getting way too big
1998 Ronnie was the best bodybuilder ever, But after that no.. i think he shouldn’t win at least 4 olympia 2001-2005
Clearly you didn't watch the 03 Olympia@@StrongerThanTheWorld
ronnie coleman quite contradict himself there with the "he was my best friend"
arnolds "comback" win was just as bad a decision ,the judging has always been questionable . you start to compete you know the history you know what's going to happen.if the important people like you your going to do well ,if they don't ,there aint any point being there.
Besides Dorian's injuries on stage, Nasser had a better looking midsection (abs), right in the middle of the body where your eyes notice. Especially impressive for a real mass monster.
History is always repeating itself.
These bodybuilders were on top of the world you can tell they were proud of being admired with no clothes on. Lots of vanity. Is it really worth it if your life is cut short this way ?? 😳😳
You don't understand, miss. Standing there, in the gym, simply working on yourself.......It's beautiful!
for them yes, it is. they have been immortalized for doing something worthy lf remembering, rather than living forever because they sat around and watched tv paycheck to paycheck.
Bodybuilding doesn't cut lives short,it all depends on how u do it and live it ! Natural is the way to go,it doesn't kill anybody !
RIP Our half Serbian half Egyptian brother!
The Olympia was always about politics. You either participate in it or don’t.
IFBB is a joke, and always was. It's a business, not a true olympic-style, athletic sport league.
Guys there where 7 compulsory poses.Dorian won FLS,ST,BDB and BLS.Thats 4 out of 7 and since 4>3 thats your winner.That is the flaw with BBing judging.Clearly Nasser was better that night and he deserved the win.
I worked as a bouncer with Nasser in 1985. His nickname was "Jimmy". He was 100 kg 220 lbs but already impressive CHARISMA. He threw out 10 guys 2 of them bullies. Alone. I did not help because he played their minds better than any studied psychologist. They left trembling...He also had heavy ko power in his hits if needed. So awful Dorian accepted that con versus Nasser.
In Stuttgart ??
@@holgermuller866 Yep
@@wolfganghasenmaier8350 Der war doch auch Türsteher im Roxy in Stuttgart , Königsstraße ...habe zu der Zeit in LB gewohnt . War damals schon bekannt der Nasser .
@@holgermuller866 In several places. Especially where true psychos went for trouble. 1993/1994 he vanished for good reasons and resurfaced at Weider territory CA. LA or some other city
nassers front double is one of my all time favourite shot!
Intrigue like in politics. Naser was half Serb, half Egyptian, and that wasn't possible at the time. His compatriot Sarcev understood this very quickly
Nasser was soft in the back, Yates was superior. Dont blame IFBB.
Bodybuilding is not only back
Dorian looked like a melted marsh mellow
4:07 markus rühl in background looking good in suit
His face saddened me😢
I think u have to point the finger at the federation. As off as Dorian was with the injuries he had he didn't judge himself as the winner. Politics of course yes and nasser was the better athlete on that day but it's the fault of the guys judging.
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The IFBB has fixed many of its Olympias. This is well known. 80 and 81 are the most famous. It's not an ethically upright organization; they play favourites. It's all politics.
81, 97, and 07 were the worst
@@ryancalhoun4671 Yes. 07 = Victor Martinez (it is said) should have won. 81 = Tom Platz (it is said) should have won. Or Danny Padilla. 1997 = El Sonbaty (it is said) should have won. The controversies stem from the audience and public preferring a different contestant than the judges, and the contests thought to be rigged by the IFBB -- which is probably the case. Weider wants a Mr Olympia who was marketable and for whatever reason the guys who should have won were not considered as marketable as those who did.
Nessar was the number 1 winner that year. He is an Olympia in my opnion.
What's the background music name?
Lost Whispers
Nasser was syntholled up for that olympia
I don't admire anyone
I don't want to beat anyone
True man