Mister Redeemed or Going to H🔥LL? | The Color Purple
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- Join Heit & Cheri as they discuss whether Mister taking the steps necessary to reunite Celie with her children and her sister, Nettie in the 1985 film, "The Color Purple"makes up for all the wrong he had done to Celie.
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Could you forgive Mister? Are there people you still refuse to forgive because their offense was just too great? Tell us about it below!
Nope. He assaulted that woman (SA, Physically, and Mentally) for decades. He ensured she thought she was alone in this world just to break her. One trip from Africa does not suffice. Especially just to get the root off 🤷🏾♀️😂
Dang watching the video now, y’all said the same thing within minutes lowkey 😂😂😂
Great minds think alike! 😆
@@indigrant1087 PERIOD!!!😂
Yes. My ''father". He has been a good dad to his kids family born from marriage. But he met my mom when she was sixteen, he was already married. Got my mom pregnant and didn't reach out to me until his wife passed on, when I was in my twenties. He is just not a good man. I'm not bad, but I won't be his friend and I'm pretty sure he's about to die.
Was Mister redeemed? Hell Nah! I think after he realized that Celie made his life easier despite all the trauma he caused her the guilt caught up to him. He did right to bring her sister and kids, but that does not undo all the wrongs he did.
Why was this exactly the same thing I said 😂😂 “ was he redeemed ? Heeelllllllllll nah! “ lol
I really can’t because of the abuse/trauma he put her through. This movie traumatized as a child
I hear you Claudine! It was despicable really.
Same
You know that saying “I can forgive but I won’t forget” yes he finally did something nice for her, but that one nice act doesn’t amount to decades of sexual, physical, emotional & mental abuse! If I was Celie I would definitely say “thank you, I wish you the best of luck with life!” & move on with my own life & family without him!
Yes!! Celie went through 40 years of abuse. Her life was stripped from her starting with her stepfather and then Mister. No one deserves treatment like that. And yes your mind doesn't forget what you've been through. Sadly people still choose to treat others how they've been treated. Mister's father verbally abused him and so he treated Celie and everyone else the same. Celie was abused and still chose to treat others with kindness (Shug talked down to her but she took care of her, she still served Mister and his 'rotten kids' 😆, and she still believed that there was hope somewhere for her.) Whew!! It is definitely a lot to unpack with this.
I wouldn't tell him 'thank you' nor would I have wished him well. Breaking someone's nose & then offering to stitch up the wounds you created does not warrant any gratitude from the injured party.
One thing i saw was a generational curse on that family specifically with the males from the father , to Danny glover down to Harpo . womanizing and abuse is what i saw as a recurring theme
Nothing Mister could have done could make up for what he did. Now if he took a bullet for her, or a lightning bolt? Nah. Not even that. He’s carrying that into the afterlife.
I've used this analogy time and again, but years ago, I read this passage where a man and a woman were arguing. I forget what the man did, but he told her, "I've said I'm sorry so many times!" So, she told him, "Take that plate, throw it to the ground and break it." He did it. She said, "Now, tell it you're sorry." He did. "Did that fix the plate?"
The point being, you can say sorry, but that doesn't make the pain of all the things you've said and done go away. Putting a band-aid on a gunshot doesn't fix the gunshot or take away the pain. I'm not sure if there is enough he could have done to atone for all the things he's done and said to Celie and Nettie. To start, they were mere children! I think Nettie was 12 or 13 and Celie was 14 or 15.
What he did at the end of the movie was just a start. Also, in the book, he and Celie were both in love with Shug. Now, at the end of the book, he proposed the idea of them (he and Celie) getting back together, saying they were still "man and wife". She declined, and I believe the book ended with them just opting to be friends. But bringing her family back from Africa was simply a start, not a full atonement. There's not enough he could have done for the decades he took away from Celie and Nettie.
Sure, what he did was the catalyst for Nettie to go to Africa and help raise her sister's children. Ultimately, she made sure they grew up healthy, happy, and smart so they could finally meet their mother. But at the end of the day, who's to say that Celie couldn't have gone to Africa with them, and been educated and enlightened while raising her children, too?
Never part. Naw that one act of kindness definitely didn’t redeem him. Running Nettie off in itself was a borderline evil act but hiding those letters FOR DECADES. That’s almost psychotic in it’s pettiness.
It’s a tricky situation, had Mister never separated them, they may never have gotten Celie’s children together, they’d still be in Africa thinking they had no Kin, however by breaking them apart, he caused them both decades lot of pain, especially Celie. I don’t think reuniting them was enough to make up for all he did, but I guess it was a start
Funny, that’s literally the exact same logic/argument white nationalists apply to chattel slavery of Africans 😂 “If not for slavery YOU PEOPLE would be living impoverished in Africa and not enjoying the opportunities and freedoms of America so really it all worked out for the good”. Lemme go back and thank the good white folks since we’re doing this.
I know most are more familiar with this classic movie, so I’ll speak about the book. It’s is pretty different from the movie, which is typical.
In the book, Celie and mister become good friends after she separates from him. So close that he actually asks her to marry him again (she says hell no of course lol) and then is shortly reunited with her sister and family.
But absolutely tf not, send his @ss straight to 🔥 in the movie and the book 😂
Celine’s father was foul as Hell !! Calling his daughter ugly and whatnot !! 😂😂😂😂😂
Curtis he was just horrible! And he said it like it was just the normal course of business--like he was selling a mule or something!
@@AxiomAmnesia And...that wasn't his daughter! He didn't care about her because he had no attachment at all.
Sold her like she was a slave
Plus sexually abusing her, and got her pregnant 3 times WHAT it's crazy
He was actually her step father however he raised her from a baby. It’s just as vile though how he talked about her and how he sexually abused her. He was supposed to protect his step daughter yet he took advantage of her.
Those "hex fingers" as you called them is referred to as the evil eye by some cultures.
Never Part...
I see this movie a hundred times. My thoughts is. Mister didn't really start "redeeming" himself until everybody stop messing with him, especially his kids. When she put the curse on him, she said "everything you done to me, is already done to you". He was alone, old, couldn't really function. I think at some point, he started to believe he was cursed, so he did what he thought would uplift the curse. He went and got her family together. By the time we see him again after seeing them reunite, he was looking healthier. I don't think anything could ever redeem himself or be forgiven. The only thing I could feel sorry for, his father raised him to be that way. Shug was the one that was able to saved Cecily. Shug was able to manipulate Mister because she knew he like her. And them Sophia was able to help. Harpo apologizing and stood against his father. So with each person helping Cecily, it gave her the strength to stand up against Mister. In real life, I think Cecily would have eventually killed him. Also, I do think slaves did poisoned slaveowners. Again, I'm glad I found y'all channel. 💯
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I agree. Mister looked so much better after he got that hex off of him. He looked like he had stopped drinking and everything.
Hell she almost did kill him! Sugar Avery had to high tail it to the house to stop Ciely from slitting his throat when she was giving him a shave
In Sophia's voice, "Hell. Naw."
I don’t even have to watch this to determine hell no!!! He’ll never be redeemed!!!!!
Also, what he did “for her” in the end was because he believed that hex….so it wasn’t selfless, it was absolutely selfish
Well I hope you do what h the video for the sake of the discussion. I'd love to hear your thoughts on some of what we brought up in the video. 😊
He tortured that woman for decades and only “redeemed” himself to lift the curse after she found the strength to leave him. I think it would be best for Celie if Mister effed off forever. I would think she would be just fine if she never saw Mister again. That would be the case for me.
Greatest of films, Mr. was shocked and terrified into making changes because he saw a side of Celie he’d never seen before. Her words and the knife to the throat incident at the dinner made him realise how wicked he was and how she was her own person. Hi from the U.K.
Mister really wanted to marry Nettie. A lot of scandalous when Mister sleeps with Shug Avery. Sometimes saying you're sorry doesn't make up for the things you did to a person or a person did to you. It doesn't make it right.
There is a movie quote that I love that has stayed with me most of my life; nearly 3 decades. "Why would the devil punished those that he's supposed to adore, to prove a point to a God he's supposed to despise?" That quote was from the movie Crazy As Hell. The movie is really good and most people don't heal completely from their trauma. Victims don't need to forgive themselves because it wasn't them that was in any control of their life they lived. Also, the very treatment black people went through with slavery stayed in the community due to the constant perpetual mistreatment by the men to the community. Women had no choice; especially when being groomed as a child then later becomes a mindset to keep a little peace between the men. Growing up it was always keep that MAN happy, not just be happy. Just saying. Great video.
That quote always stayed with me too! - Heit
Thank you so much for the shout out. I am so humbled and honored to be apart of the discussion!
Mister is among the most evil characters in film. I said what I said lol.
Plus he knew she had put a curse on him, did he do it because he wanted to do something good to make up for what he was, or was he just trying to get the curse off? If that’s the case it was still selfish.
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In the book, he earnestly improves and they become true friends.
In the book Harpo helped his Dad fed him & bathed him when he got old. Also when Nettie came back from Africa Mr was on the porch too when they reunited and him & Celie developed a friendship in the end and he said I’d like to marry you again and she said no she just enjoyed their friendship. It dawned on him & he said after all of these years I never realized what good company you are because they used to just talk and sit on the porch. Squeaky and Suge husband got together and Celie and Suge were in a relationship they left so much out of the movie.
I’ll say he is redeemed because Celie forgave him. I believe in the book they became friends.
If I can remember correctly, Alice Walker said these characters were loosely based on her grandparents and she heard stories about How mean and evil her grandfather was in his younger days but by the time she knew him, he was a nice old man. So she was inspired to write about the life journey of going from one extreme to the other.
There was character growth for Mister in the film
When his father after Celie leaves him
And sees the house is again a mess - he gives him the advice of you need a young woman - Mister rejects his father advice , and kicks him out that’s a change an inner change for the character
Ok, well idk, he can never make it up! He can feel sorry for his favorite victim but she can never get those years back that he took from her. Who knows what future she would have had without him or if he was actually decent from the start and wanted the best for her. He should probably have done 10 to 20 in the slammer! Again another good vid!
I've always heard in the book Ciely forgives Mister & they become friends
He proposes in earnest.
But she's in love with Shug and she's either ACE or fully Queer.
I believe in Cellie's eyes he did. All she ever wanted was her sister and children. Netty had to be sent away to be reunited with Adam and Olivia. Mister got them back for her. Nothing in the world was going to begin to allow her to heal without them.
Nope, not at all. I'd never forgive such a demon.
However, I was glad to see him finally wise up to the vile advice of his own father. It was too little too late but good that he decided that with whatever time he had left on this earth, he'd never take his father's "advice" ever again.
Mister could never be redeemed. He only did that because he was trying to reverse the curse. If he just woke up feeling convicted and decided to do the right thing going forward it would have been more sincere but it would never erase the damage. In the book , they ended up being friends and tried to remarry Celie and when she turned him down he even helped her to live her life as a lesbian, keeping men at bay when they were in public etc. But as far as the movie goes, hell no to Mister!!!
I voted no in the poll. Love that you are having this discussion on this great movie. My comment is that Mister. was a product of his father's incredibly sloppy raising. However, each generation of "Mister."'s got better. Mister figured out that he was wrong and tried to redeem himself. Harpo tried to be his father but learned by those mistakes and that's why Sophia stayed with him. Celie's success came when she left her tragic environment. I think Mister understood that he had to change, and he wouldn't have found success until he 'did right by her'. The last scene with the sisters doing their pattycake while we watch him in the background walking means something. He was finally able to move on and that's why he was able to move beyond Celie and her curse. The sisters were able to have the true, free connection that they always wanted. In my mind, they would live near each other and know each other (because they were family), but there wouldn't be any real relationship. But that's what forgiveness is about. I don't forgive to take someone off the hook. I forgive to get me off the hook, so they don't live in my mind, heart, and spirit rent free. Man, this movie and story is so good!!!
Yes it's an amazing story and I agree with what you said about forgiveness. Unforgiveness can sometimes leave a person stuck. Also, you're right about Mister being a product of bad raising. We MUST discuss his pappy for sure! Thanks so much for watching!
Oops, forgot to add 'Never part'
I totally agree with you. If Nattie would stayed Cecile would been life him and he know that so he had to get rid of her. If Nattie would sleep with him he would let her stay. I personally feel eventually sold Cecile
It doesn't make up for his wrong doing it just demonstrates his growth...he didn't think he was doing wrong bc this is how he was raised...that's all that he knew...but when he learned better & grew in his mindset his behavior changed
I highly recommend the book 👍🏾
I'm gonna reread it! I haven't read it in decades. Also thank you for supporting the channel. Did you see your name in the video? 😊
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There ain’t enough “ sorry “ in the world for me to forgive him. I couldn’t do it. I read the book 3x and watched the movie a million times. I couldn’t forgive him
I personally dont think he should be forgiven. He was a monster. He did what he should have done though with reuniting her and her children. But no ticket out. Just a good deed.
It's crazy I was just talking to a friend recently about people not understanding the plight of Mista. He was a single parent father with a business and he couldn't take care of his house and his farm. He was trying to live up to the standard his father set for him, but he could never live up to it.
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F Mista. He was a pedo who treated her like a whipping girl.
Um ok. None of that excuses his mistreatment of Celie - NONE OF IT.
He was a man in a culture that bred the type of mentality he had as Either be Strong and heavy handed or be a simp like Harpo and get ran over. Only one that showed that balance was Shug Avery's husband, who eventually got drunk with Mista and began to talk sh!+ Too.... It's interesting Miss Sophia was the strong woman who after her bout with the police got broken as well. The culture was toxic, and ran by men with a heavy hand. That was his Plight, he didn't know how to navigate that properly. His dad told him that in so many ways the day Miss Celie spit in his water lol. Very interesting. I don't feel bad for Mista but I can understand the culture he was living in that bred the mistreatment of Celie.
Read the book.
Celie is his SECOND wife.
He had abused his first wife.
And no matter what he kept Shug on the side and got Shug pregnant.
TWICE.
(That's why Shug is sick when she meets Celie because she had to give another baby to her parents.)
Spoiler
His first wife takes a side and the side dude blows her head off.
Why do you think no other woman wanted a good looking man with that level of wealth?
No matter how loyal, faithful, dedicate, beautiful he was still gonna fuck around with Shug Avery.
Question how does the novel end - regarding Mister , I know in the movie the relationship that Celie has with Shrug is only hinted at but with the book - it’s more clear that Shrug is into Celie - but the director changed it for the screenplay
Another layer..not to say I agree w the lifestyle ..but Mister's behavior might not have been considered wrong in that time(late 1800s /early 1900s). Unfortunately that generational trauma still exists in families to this day.
Jamaal, that is such a good point and we need to explore that aspect of the dynamic between men and women of the time. There were a lot of women who were little more than slaves to their husbands at that time.
I love yalls content!!!!
Thank you!!!
Great video guys
Thanks!
You guys should do a poll on Who was the worst husband:
Mister
Ike Turner
John, Russell & Kenneth
Miles
Zeke McCall
Charles McCarter
Mike from Why Did I Get Married
Mister wasn't just evil he was a pedo. I don't know all the others you named but I'm sure Mister is the worst.
He could have done it to get to Nettie and not necessarily to please Celie. He had always wanted Nettie and may have thought that bringing her back to the States could have made it so that he could try to get with her again after all of those years. I really don't think that he had changed. It could have been another way to get back at Celie for leaving him.
Never part.
Thanks so much for watching the he entire video! We appreciate you weighing in on this too!
I’m only part way through your video, so maybe you mention this, but he’s more nuanced, and arguably redeemed, in Walker’s book than in any of its adaptations. The eventual friendship between Celie and Albert rings true, possibly in large part due to how his redemption in the book occurs in ways outside their relationship too, such as his tenderness toward Sophie’s sickly child.
I voted no.i don't really believe in forgiveness. Sure with my kids & family (depending on how severe the situation is). But I'm mostly a "fck you, & walk away" kind of person. I don't believe "forgiveness is for yourself & not the other person" bullshyt. If you wrong me, you'll be out of my life PERIOD & I don't expect to reconcile, make amends or any of that horse shyt. You can forget that I existed bc I'll DEF forget that you did.
Oh and Mister?! NO WAY! some ppl are just irredeemable & he's simply one of them.
That one nice act doesn’t many up for the decades of mental, physical and emotional abuse he subjected her to. There is absolutely ntn he could have done to fix her where he tried to break her. I’ve read the book three times. He definitely changed and I still wouldn’t have forgiven him. But since we’re basing this solely on the movie, HEEEEELLLLLLL NO! There is no redemption for him.
I would have to say, Mister waited too long to take the necessary steps to reunite the sisters. He was just mean to his core and it would take God himself to truly redeem this man. At the end of the day, TMH is the final judge on this one. I don't believe one kind act would clear him of his evil doings but this is just my opinion, however I could be wrong because HE is a forgiving God.🤷🏾♀️
Hey Yall, I cant wait for this...missed yall,this is one of my favorite moves,and book...
Hey Sethunya! Hope you enjoy this and there's more to come on this movie--a FULL breakdown is in the works!
I read the book in 6th grade and it gets graphic from what i remember. Im talking lesbianism with Celie and Shug Avery .. The movie was watered down concerning the extent of theyre relationship
@@atiashaunbaker3792 Yes the book was quite graphic ,and focused on,the lesbian relationship between the two women,while the movie took on a more friendship,shared trauma of Shug,and Celie...
@@sethunyanikuru1079 they did start kissing in the movie but the book implied they're friendship became sexual and extended . I remember something about a clitoris or "button". I had no idea what those were 😃🤣🤣
@@atiashaunbaker3792 lmao yes the movie implied that since Celie hand't had an orgasm she was still a virgin,and I guess Ol Shug Avery gave her one,her being so worldly an all.......
Remember she saw him in front of her shop and she turned away. I’m that could have been the moment where he could have apologized, but her response made him leave.
nothing can ever fix it. He still ends up alone but maybe he will survive.
I never understood if Nettie pretty much raised Adam and Olivia and their adoptive parents also was first language English speakers why is it that when they came to see Ciely when they were grown with Nettie THEY DIDNT KNOW ENGLISH?!!!! THEY COULD BARELY PIT TWO WORDS TOGETHER IN ENGLISH
That’s a good question I never even thought of that even after seeing this movie a million times
In the book, Adam and Olivia completely became members of the African tribe they were staying with. They married into the tribe, did the scarring rituals and everything. I guess they forgot their old life and language.
I think they would have accents.
But it was heavy handed.
Adams wife Tashi was more confident with English.
But...emotions maybe?🤔
Yea they looked like they were at the minimum 8-11 when they went to Africa in the movie and they were close to Nettie who if I remember correctly was with the preacher and his family to help and teach once they moved, it seems unlikely they just didnt talk to the kids in their first language at all. I get loosing words but the whole language 😂
@@HinataUchiha_22 I think the kids were preschool when they left The South.
But, international travel could be pretty slow.
A year in England, a year in Germany, a year in Spain-Samuel meeting with church leaders from around the globe slowly but surely.
Great video
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I think he did right - judge by his SMILE at the end. He did right in the END
Ya nailed 👏 👌 it, guys! 💘
Thanks!
With time, it reveals all things..."Mister" vindicated himself and for that Redemption was established; through his "lens" at the bare minimum.
Mister wasn't even trying to do the right thing, he just wanted to stop the curse.
I don't believe that one act made up for all of the hurt that he caused but as they say, hurt people, hurt people. I advise that everyone actually read the Color Purple novel (in which Mister and Celie somewhat reconcile at some point) also check out Alice Walkers collection of essays (theres a section in either Living by the Word or In Search of our Mothers Gardens I cant remember which; I read them well over 20 years ago) but theres a part that discussed a little more about why Mister is the way he is and discusses his own fathers issues...) Again Mister and Celie actually reconciled in the book... in fact so much more happened in the novel than in the movie. A lot got left out so it is imperative to read it to get a better understanding of everything.
Speaking on in the movie versus the book I feel like we can compare what was left out of the movie from the literary work. Side note: Spielberg left out or lessened a lot from the book in the movie to attract audiences and a lot of things that were wrote in literature wouldn’t be acceptable in society on screen. As for Mr.__ which is how it’s represented in the book was meant to have a redemption arc but in the movie he stays away and doesn’t interfere with her newfound success and now happiness with the reconnection with Nettie and the introduction of her children as adults and daughter in law. I think him being the one who separated Nettie and Celie in the first place and then brought them back together gives him some redemption. I won’t say 100% because he had to reap what he did to Celie and that’s pretty much being alone on that farm. Celie doesn’t owe that man not one thank you she was overdue everything that she earned from her mother and fathers house and store to being with the children she birthed and her sister who equally loves her dearly. This was a good breakdown. Never Part.
I believe Mister showed learned behaviors from his father and it wasn't until Ceily leaving and him living on his own watching her flourish without him gave him time to self reflect. Him undoing the separation of the sisters that he caused was a start. I wonder if he spent the rest of his life doing good for Ceily as his own atonement for the harm he has down.
Never part! This was great would love to see a comparison to the book with your breakdown 💜
Hey Kenyatta! I was thinking about that too!
The book was very good although,so much was left out of the movie & over the top embellishments added😐
@@kve1247 the book highlights so much more of celie as a young woman and her emancipation. It gives a deeper insight to her relationships with other characters, her feelings towards her own self worth, and even her views on being a woman and marriage. I can’t wait for this video to drop lol
This was a hard movie to watch. I think it was the right thing for him to do for himself. But, after all that torture Celie suffered. There wasn't anything he could have done to make amends for decades of torture. His journey was exactly that. His journey. But, I do like the ending. No forgiveness. I remember men being upset at this movie. He redeemed himself for himself. But, not for Celie. Never Part. ✌️
I can smell the rain coming lol
Uh....no! Mister will never be redeemed!!! Most older males (especially black males) are like this when they're old and realize the end is near for them. They try to "make it right and get their affairs in order" before they croak. It was a little too late at this point.
The only reason he did it I believe it’s because Sealy had cursed him, and said, until he did right by her, everything he even thought about was going to fail. And it did. So I feel ultimately it was a selfish act for him to do it, because he just wanted his life to be better.
Nope! Mister beat celie, tried to SA nettie, and abuses celile for years not to mention he tried to get with sug in front of celile. Nah he went too far.
Never part ! But to answer your question, absolutely NOT! You cannot get back time & that was the biggest thing he robbed Cely of. Most of her life & childhood smh.
That reunion was so bittersweet
Absolutely not. Than man was a monster. Theres nothing he could do to redeem what he had done to her. He took everything from her. Just because he did a few good things will never take back the trauma he put her through. Decades of her life ruined and in in misery and pain
And i believe he only did it because Karma was catching up to him.
HAILLLLLL....NAWWW!!!😡
Some spiritual beliefs would say after we die we judge ourselves we judge our lives - so I wonder would Mister feel like he had mad a difference and that he had redeemed his action
No one can treat you wrong unless you allow them to...In every situation ppl have to be accountable for their own actions or lack there of...he was just being himself as he has always had been...you can't be mad at a person for being themselves...She just lacked confidence in herself to leave...her lack in confidence was knocked down by her dad wayyyyy before she married him...
Not that it isn't still wrong but that wasn't her birth father he was their step father their real father died .
True, and that was how Celie got the land and money when she returned from Memphis.
The flaming gates for him 🥰🔥🔥🔥
I was pregnant when i saw this at the movies. I cried so hard. But thats ok because the man in the row in front of me was crying harder. I still cry when i watch this movie. The original.
I think from this movie, “Mister” (Albert) was a “learned” behavior. His father “Old Mister Johnson” perhaps taught Mister everything he learned. Regardless, I really don’t think there’s anything that could be done to correct all the damage that had been done in Celie’s life from both her husband and her father. Mister getting Celie’s kids (now grown) back to her … good. Don’t expect a “thank you”. As far as forgiveness, I would only do it so my spirit could progress on. Mister would never know about it. As far as Celie’s father, if possible I would try to erase that demon out of my memory (father or not).
Mister was not redeemed. Even though he tried to reddem himself by reuniting Celie with her children & sister, it did not make up for the hell he put her through.
It’s tough for this to be just a yes or no. I believe he began a process towards accountability the moment he left her alone to build her life back up. Did he completely redeem himself? We can’t know cause the story ends with him doing this one big act of kindness. It was clear he realized he could have been better to her. Listen as a kid I hated mister but his character really makes you think about what accountability is? And how far you can be and turn around.
Can you please do break down one on Sofia and hop
It's on the list! Make sure you're subscribed to our other channel because the full breakdown will probably drop over there.
I saw the stage play and that was good
Mr was a whole devil but let's not forget his father. Every scene with that man was gold😂. However with age comes wisdom in us all and I think he had plenty of times to see his wrongs and then the house falling apart and whatnot. He still going to hell but I believe this was the start of a different relationship because of course they are going to talk about how they got there
Never part. I don't feel Mister redeemed himself. He enslaved Celie in every way possible. It was no different than chattel slavery. He did one act of kindness to assuage his own guilt which was still partly selfish on his behalf.
Never Part!
In the words of Miss Sophia… HELL NO, Mr. Wasn’t redeemed.
Before I start the video...lemme say I dislike Danny Glover after this movie until Lawrence Fishburne played Ike..🤣. Now let me begin..and I will come back and leave a comment..
😆 This movie made a lot of people despise Danny Glover.
MISTER THATS THE LEAST HE COULD HAVE DID BRINGING HER FAMILY HOME I HAVE NO AWARD OR SYMPATHY FOR MISTER FORGIVE HIM BUT NO FRIENDSHIP
Yes, if he doesn't separate the sisters in the first place, Celie never gets reunited with her children, and the fact that Nettie is the only one who truly cared about Celie, reuniting them meant more than just one act, plus he didn't do it, then ask for forgiveness, he stayed in the background
Danny is a great actor
This is perhaps why I love the book and (after analysis) hate the movie now that I'm older. Mind you, Mr. is going to hell. But there was a relationship built and steps taken on his part. So much was taken away once you take the book in consideration.
Mista and Celie both committed adultery with Shug....so let's discuss 😂
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But as she said stated she never even asked for his sorry ass hand in marriage.
Shug stole Celie from Mista, and had a husband on top of that. Shug made out good. She had two lovers by the end of the movie.
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NO, he didn't not. Yes he brought them back together. But, what about the years of not knowing and worrying they went through. Granted they lived to see each other again. But they could of been corresponding over the years. And he still has to make up for the mental, physical and sexual abuse. One act of kindness doesn't erase all of that hell he put her through.
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Forgiveness is between him and the Lord. I can’t do it.
Never part…
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It righted the wrong but it wasn't erased. Made it forgiveable in the end. Hes not going to hell he did the soul-searching necessary and did what was right. St the same time making it so he can live with himself.
It would have been a trip if Mister did all that trying to get Nettie again...lol...
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Nettie probably whack his old ass again.
It does not give him redemption. He did not do it out of genuine sorrow and repentence. It was from selfishness. Fear that if he didnt fix what he broke his life and afterlife was in peril. Karma that Ceily spoke about. From the outside looking in i understand him once you meet his father and you see the dynamics to their relationship. That man was pure hatred and evil and you can see where Mister came from. Luckily Hoppo didn't turn out like that even though he tried.
Interesting take. But we don't know definitively that an "afterlife" actually exists. Moreover, he could have simply done nothing or spent his money and time on booze, women, or just on himself. I'm not surprised to see these comments. As you may never get forgiveness from others as you try to atone for past events. However, that's the power of redemption. Redemption is very much like self esteem, it's something that you give to yourself...not others. But if those people are appreciative/grateful, it's a bigger win.
My thing is; what happen to Harpo’s sisters. We’re they given away like Ceily to other nasty mean men like mister. Us never part, handclap!
I think Mister was redeemed. What little money he has, he used to being Nettie, and 5 other people to America. I'n the books, Celie had him on the porch with the rest of them. They became friends later in life.
I think at the end of it all it shows that even monsters have souls. He realized he caused the pain, did what he did and got out of the way. He didn't expect anything. He felt he had done enough and the least he could do was to at the very least in this regard make amends. U cant erase the pain, but in this act of kindness, he can dress the wounds and let them heal on they're own. Celie found her family and obtained a new life. Its on her to forgive him and in that i believe if she has found a way to forgive him and move forward, then that's his redemption. The person that was affected by the action has to clear you of that. No one else. Either way he has to live with that decision. No one else. Homeboy was fowl af though! I probably would've gave him the closest shave he'd ever get. Thats just me though but again, not my situation! NEVER PART!
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He did not make up for it...But a lot of times, apologies rarely fix. You can only make the best of what you get. She got to reunite with her sister and she was no longer with Mister. That was all she wanted. She got her house, her kids, her business and her new life.
I wonder if she knew he was the one who pulled the strings for her sister and kids to return. I think it's good if she doesn't know. Because then that deed is truly for his own atonement. It can be so difficult to apologize, especially for someone like Mister, and especially after all the things he did to her and Nettie.
Never Part…..This makes me wonder what we as Black folks and Native folks really need from America for all the harm we’ve endured for the theft of our land and the pillage rape and enslavement of our ppl.
Redemption and forgiveness are touchy topics..example in 'Star Wars' Anakin (Darth Vader) goes to the afterlife w Obi Wan and Yoda..like wth? I don't feel one thing outweighs a person's overall life and actions.
I hear you Jamaal!
Never part....Great as always!!
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