Sophia's Home Now! | The Color Purple 1985 vs 2023
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- Join Heit & Cheri as they discuss the scene dinner table scene where Celie finally leaves Mister in The Color Purple 1985 vs the 2023 version.
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Blitz Bazawule (Director). (2023). The Color Purple [Film]. Warner Brothers Pictures.
Steven Spielberg (Director). (1985). The Color Purple [Film]. Warner Brothers Pictures.
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When Celie says "I never asked you for nothing, not even your sorry a** hand in marriage" feels like her saying despite her being called ugly she still didn't want him
Yea because Mr wasn’t no looker either lol
He really thought he was some sort of prize because Shug had only his kids even though neither checked for the kids.
I never thought about that.
22:20 I’m glad you guys called out that minor demographic of Black men who says “this story hates Black men”. No, this story hates ABUSIVE men.
In the book it was Squeak that got Sofia out of Jail. She was getting beat real bad. They cracked her scull and broke her ribs. Cecile, Harpo, Sofia’s sisters were all stressed out and worried sick about her. Squeak was half white and convinced her uncle the prison guard at the jail to let her go and have her work for the Mayor’s family, after he raped Squeak during her visit…Squeak was also helping to care for Sophia’s kids too. She had a-lot of substance in the book.
It would have been great to know more about Squeak in the movies!
I was hoping for more character story from each person in this. They gave Squeak even less than a place in this movie. A disservice.
Squeak also ran off with Grady in the book
@@Lola7Falana yes indeed!!!!
@@TanieBaker thats crazy both films left that out about Squeak
It was a real hex. If you listen right before she pulls the knife out of the table Celie says "I CURSE YOU" right before she says "until you do right by me...."
Also at the end of the scene, right before Celie gets in the car she gives Mister/Albert the Evil Eye.
I just reread the book the week before I went to go see the movie the day after Christmas, so this part is fresh in my memory.
Harpo, Celie, Shug, Mister, Squeak, Sophia's Sister Odessa, and Sophia's boyfriend Henry were all sitting around the dinner table,trying to figure out how to help Sophia. They were concerned that she was going to die in prison.
Mister asked if the warden had any black kinfolk.
Then Henry asked what th warden's name was, and Harpo told him Bubber Hodges. Then Squeak spoke up and asked if he had a brother named Jimmy.
Mr. Said yes, and then Squeak mumbled that Jimmy was her father, which would make the warden her uncle.
Squeak then said she remembered her father Jimmy and her uncle, the warden, coming to her house once when she was younger.
After realizing this, everyone discussed it and decided that Squeak should go down and try to talk to her uncle on Sophia's behalf.
They hope that realizing that he was her uncle. He would be lenient and let Sophia be free.
They bathe Squeak and dress her up fancy like she was a white woman and even give her and a black bible to make her look innocent.
They told her to go down and talk to her uncle and what to say. Squeak was worried because she hadn't seen this man in fifteen years. She felt he wasn't going to remember her. They told her to go do it anyway and try her best.
When Squeak got back home, she was limping, her dress was ripped, her hat was missing, and her heels were torn off her shoes.
She told everyone that the warden had violated her. She went on to explain what happened.
Squeak said that she did everything everyone suggested. She told the warden that prison suited Miss Sophia, just fine, and she was happy. She said that it wasn't a punishment enough to work in the wash house and that Sophia would rather be doing that than working as a maid for a white woman.
Squeak then said the sheriff got up and came around from behind his desk and walked up to her. He asked her who her kinfolks were, all the time lusting after her.
She said she told him everybody's name. And then he said, "Who's your Daddy?" and she said I ain't got no daddy.
Then he said, "Everybody's got a Daddy, and I know I've seen you before."
So then that's when she told him who her daddy was and reminded him about what happened ten years ago when she was a child.
Squeak then said that after she told him that, he took her hat off and told her to undo her dress. Then, he said if he was her uncle, He wouldn't do what he was about to do her.
After that, Sophia was released out of the wash house at the prison and sent to work for Miss Millie, the mayor's wife. This was three years after she was initially assaulted and put in prison.
So, in the book, it explains that the only reason Sophia got out of prison and ended up working for Miss Millie was because Squeak went down there to talk to the warden. He believed her when he she said prison wasn't punishment enough for Sophia.
But instead of freeing Sophia, he sent her to do what she didn't want to do in the first place. That became her punishment. Working As a live in maid for Miss Millie.
All of this at the detriment of Squeak being unjustly violated in the process.
I may be black, I may be ugly. But thank God I am here.
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Danny Glover played this role so well. My grandmother still hates him to this day. 😂 I told her it’s just a movie but in her words “he has dirt written all over him” 😭😭😭😭😭
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@@krissysprayers2537 still to this day, idk who was telling the truth. Idk whether she was or he was.
Karma - 1985 version - it was more dramatic. It allowed you to feel the emotions of each character. Certain scenes were visually and emotionally beautiful - like the scene when their colorful cloaks fly up into the air or when they run to each other like they were still children.
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One thing I noticed was the difference between Squeak and Sophia. Squeak was everything Harpo wanted Sophia to be-submissive and docile towards men. The fact that he told Squeak to shut up at the dinner table and she did exactly that exemplifies what I'm referring to. Despite all of this, he clearly was still in love with Sophia and was only with Squeak because her weakness made him feel masculinated whereas Sophia’s independence made him feel emasulated. This goes to show that back in those days (and even for a lot men today) having a woman stroke your pride and ego was more important than actually being in love with her
I liked the older version a lot better in every way. Acting, the way the people looked. Scenery everything!
I appreciate how yall are trying to give the 2023 version a fair critique😂😂😂😂 I can't do it because the quality clearly fell off😂😂😂 Not in terms of sets or acting, but in emotion, connection, and direction. But yall really did give it a chance and broke things down quite nicely
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I totally agree
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Dinner table scene, there are several. But to name 2 there's 'Soul Food' and 'The Nutty Professor'..
But a side note.. Fun Fact, the young, light skinned girl sitting at the table is Whoopi's real life daughter. With as many times as I've seen this movie I have never noticed that before. And you know, her daughter was also in 'Sister Act 2'
Ohhh yes!!! Thanks for reminding us of these table scenes!
I was going to say "Soul Food" as well, but I decided to look in the comments first. I knew at least one person said it lol.
Nutty professor scene is hilarious 😅
Fun Fact: The little light-skinned girl at the table is Alex Johnson... Whoopi Goldberg's real-life daughter.
Isn’t that the R&B singer “Her”
@@Lyttits In the 2023 movie, yes, but I'm not referring to H.E.R. I didn't even see the new version of The Color Purple because I hate musicals... H.E.R. is one hell of a guitar player by the way. She did the damned thing at the Super Bowl.
But the little light-skinned girl in the original movie.. not Rae Dawn Chong, but the little girl who grabs a piece of turkey or ham in the original movie. That is Whoopi Goldberg's daughter Alex.
As a person from the country (South GA), we definitely use “country” as a pejorative all the time. I tell one of my cousins “you dress so country” every time I see him 😂
Oh yes, I’m from SC and country can be a major insult or sometimes a compliment, just depends on you say it. 😀
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Okay, so I agree with what ya’ll said. What I disliked most about the new one was the dinner scene (it didn’t hit the same), when Nettie and Celie were separated by Mister, the “God is trying to tell you something” and the facts that they barely touched on Nettie’s experience in Africa with the children. Some expected dialogue was left out too (You sho is ugly, for example). I just did not care for the new version, but I will say that the best part of the new version was when Sophia cried when Celie visited her in jail and said “Don’t Leave Me.” That hurt as much as that “Nothing but dead can keep me from it” quote from Nettie in the 1985 version. I love the original and wished that they’d just left it alone. No more remakes/reimagining of our classics.
Another commenter is right, you have to listen carefully. When Celie picks up that knife and slams it into the table, she says, "I curse you." It's so subtle, but as she holds the knife to his throat, she is putting a hex on him. Then puts another hex on him outside, "Everything you done to me, already done to you." Albert took that seriously. It scared him and you could see it. That part, to me, was so satisfying.
Great catch by you and the other commenter!
I make my sisters laugh so hard when I mimic that Harpo line
"Shut up! You know it's bad luck for a woman to laugh at a man"
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Sophia was released on the terms of working for three mayors wife. This comes from the book. Also they made an earlier attempt to send Squeek to go talk to the sheriff to get her out because she was related to him. Unfortunately she was rapped and sent away. Harpo was sad cause his wife was in jail and his woman was rapped.
Serving jail time and still having to go work for Mrs. Milley was double jeopardy. Sentenced for the same crime twice.
I preferred the 1985 version because of the acting. Don’t get me wrong, the actors in 2023 version are good but they just didn’t compare to the original. I felt every word Celine said at the dinner table in 1985. And I just started liking Danny Glover again, he terrified me in the original version. Margaret Avery brought something to Shug’s character that Taraji unfortunately missed. In the original, Shug was strong and powerful but she was vulnerable too. Now Sofia vs Sofia, they were both great.
There wasn’t even any real purple in it. That field in 2023 looked like it had like 3 flowers, where was that field of purple.
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I feel like in the black communities, a lot of drama happens around the "dinner table" or definitely at a family gathering. A lot gets aired out, fought out, and sometimes even resolved. I'm not sure if other movies portray this other than the Made a movies, but it does happen in TV shows. Either at the table a family function or just in the kitchen. I love your commentary. I feel like I'm having a discussion with my cousins!😊
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Mister being the one to bring them home 😊😊
When he said Mary Elisa or however you spell it. When said that i lost it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂..
Yesss!!!! That was the much needed comic relief in that scene! 😂😂😂
In the south "poor" is used as an insult to call someone skinny. Also, people in the country do call other people country.
The color purplr has been my favorite movie since I was a child 😅 seeing it with grown eyes is interesting never knew it was this deep but I did know in a way. Analyzing it is interesting.
We all know the 1985 version is better lol
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I’ve seen this movie maybe a dozen times and always wondered, who all these kids at the dinner table belong to ? 🤔. Gah damn there’s a lot of children in this family. 😅
I feel the same way about a few men not liking this movie, but to answer the question sofia seems like she was on some type of parole if she don't work for the lady she goes back to jail
There is no substitute for brilliant directing 1985
“They” took all of the spice and signature parts out. I like some things they added. I would have liked to see Squeak get beat up though. I feel like if I wanted to see this version I would have went to see the play. So 1985 it is KARMA
Squeak knew she had no business calling Sophia a heifer 😂
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The only scene from new movie that made me cry was Sofia in jail. I felt like Danielle was in jail 4real and wanted to go get her! Ok movie but didnt need to be remade. The play was enough
So 85 film was (sort of) base on the book, the 23 film was (sort of) base on 85 film. Sophia was released from prison because Squeak was the jailer's niece and she slept with him to free Sophia. The book can answer a lot of you queries.
I dont u care 4 Ms. O but she is a great actress and Goldberg is golden ❤❤❤❤..
Not sure if it was mentioned elsewhere but, the dinner scene was all ad lib
I understand Sophia and Cecile characters. Because i am struggling with nepotism and haters on my job. I am dealing with so much on my job it is crazy. When just had a meeting and these especially my main coworker. Is still acting as devil like smh. My apartment building is nightmare and landlord is just rude and mean spirited. The apartment is nasty and no one cares. The coworkers my team is mean spirited and rude. N i have original haters. Smh..so to a degree i can relate to the pain and hate. Smh. But glory be to God.
Amen, and just keep your eyes on your work. To hellz with the rest of the demons rearing their ugly heads.
Any more letters come that was funny lol 😂 she came back lol.
Until you do right by me. 😂
Could yall review the ending scene when Celie is reunited with her family?
I love the original.❤
Quote: "A hit dog will holler" unquote And a hit dog can turn right around and BITE ur hindparts, too .
Can you please explain what you mean in the context in which the quote was said in the discussion? Yes, a hit dog can bite you, but what are you trying to say beyond that?
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Anyone ever notice that Mister’s Father is also of light skin complexion in the original movie and that he might have been the son of a slave owner 🤔 And that’s why he had these ways about him. Teaching his son to control and beat on women and then Mister teaching his son to do the same with Miss Sofia? Just a thought as I sit here and look at these clips.
Great point!
Can yall do sister act 1 and 2. Or would that be to silly for yall. 😂
I love Sister Act 2!
I agree on everything! I really loved the musical, but I do feel like every scene that we know is meant to be powerful and hit hard just falls flat, and yes it is very rushed. I feel like their biggest flaw was trying to combine the film and the stage show instead of just giving us the stage show on film. Imo everything that the new movie didn’t do, the stage version did in the same runtime and much more limitations
😢 I wish you guys would have played the actual scenes.!!!
We cannot play the full scene uninterrupted on TH-cam. Sorry!
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It really wasn't necessary to remake this movie. The original is timeless.
The dinner table scene in the 1985 adaptation, Oprah ad-libbed. That wasn't in the script.
KARMA!!! The 1985 dinner scene is better & it’s not even close. Soohia was on work release. Adolph Ceasar walked so Clifton Powell, Samuel Monroe Jr., Michael Beach, Dennis Haysbert, Blair Underwood & Richard T. Jones could run.
Fantasia from South Carolina.
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Although I was excited for this movie, I didn't enjoy it. Even though it was based on the musical, it came off (to me) as an improv version of scenes of the movie with some music thrown in.
Had it not been based on a movie I love and a book I've immersed myself into, I would discount this remake as a UPN Made for Television project from the late 90s/early 2000s. I know how I'm supposed to feel for every character, but I didn't feel anything watching this cast. The scenes outside of the iconic scenes were not fleshed out well enough to excuse them not nailing the recreation.
I'm still waiting on Amazon to give us a 10 episode series actually diving into what Alice Walker wrote, but I'm afraid after this we'll never get the story told.
You guys should look at the meme featuring colin kapernick after the 49niners lost the super bowl
Seent it
never been to law school or nothing but wouldn’t the whole case be an effective counsel???
Don't want to write that word but I did watch the whole video.
I'm weird in that I don't want Danielle Brooks to win. For me, it's better that Color Purple goes unrewarded than for the masterpiece of the 1985 version to be diminished by the implication that any of the performances of the 2023 version deserves an award where the 1985 version didn't. Danielle Brooks was great but she (IMO) was just doing an imitation of Oprah's performance.
It is obvious the reason why they had to change so much of the way this scene laid out in the 2023 version and so many of the other scenes. They were trying to use the stronger actors to push the scene along so that there would be less focus on the weaker actors. And the 2023 version it seems to me that Celie is no longer the lead character
This might be the case. My question is, if it's so obvious, why didn't the director realize casting mistakes that would impact the viability of the entire film?
Do you think you guys can compare God Is Tryna To Tell You Something scene?
The dead have risen lol I can't. Don't do it. Don't go to the other side. I know I am messing that up lol.
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Thanks for this entertainment🧡
That's not a hax that's carma and It might be a little bit of vodo
I know I didn't like it but can y'all do a thing about book of Clarence movie because I don't know what to think about it.
We should talk about that one!
A lot of big blow up scenes happen in movies at the dinner table. In the madea movie when bow wow finds out his sister is his mom. In another movie with Kimberly Elise and Monique and Danny glover and Keri hilson etc. are at the table and Kimberly finds out her husbands cheating and has his mistress sitting beside him. Soul food when the ladies finally say what’s on the hearts it all happens at the table. Possibly becuase it’s family and no matter how disfunctional everyone has a seat at the table so that’s gone be the best place to say your peace and not have to say it multiple times in side conversations here and there. We all here so let’s talk about it.
What's up with black families an dinner tables that when all the crazy shit happens 😅
Its no hex. Its God and he doesn't like ugly..thats what I think. I don't believe in that. What goes around comes around. Just like the evil devil on my job. So sic of them ppl smh. God will surely avenge..
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Please react to the movie ‘Get Out.’ I feel like it’s so fitting for today’s society. An all time classic from Peele’s catalog. My favorite movie from him to be honest 💯
I love that movie!
This the movie that I didn't wanted to sleep with a white girl afterwards 😅.
Ok i just watched the movie an in my honest opinion the hype yall have that dinner scene was not it i didn't get emotional not one bit i was looking like ok that's it.. now Oprah on the other hand deserves an oscar cause u felt it from ur soul. This just wasn't it for me. An yall got the mister redemption arc yall was looking for i guess
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Yall still on this lol.
But originally one is better with Cecile leaving 😂❤.
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I don’t think it was the same day in the ‘85 version.
The purposeful removal of the "Black Trauma" from most of the story, that was important to the book and film,completely makes the triumph of the scene not as big.
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