Well i had my wr125x with IXIL full system and K&N airfilter on the dyno and it gave around 10/11 HP now it was running lean because i dont have a PC (thats 10/11HP on the rear wheel tho) *cool fact in a tunnel with the wind in my back i hit the 132km/u on my dashboard... ofc this is like 125km/u on GPS but still thats fast...
@@blazexiytb I know I'm late, but yes. You need to break in a new engine. First 500 miles usually. Look it up, but every motorbike & new engine has to do it. Even if it's just been sat for a few months. You don't just get on it and max rev it. You need to let it run in slightly first, do an oil change (to remove gunk at the bottom from it sitting) and then you can ride like normal after a while.
I'd say if you've ever had a dirtbike and did the maintenance yourself (timing, clutch, piston swap etc), go for it. But if you've never done anything on a bike regarding the engine, i'd recommend going to a friend that has the experience or a garage.
Dt is superold, won't be reliable & in like 1.5 years it will probably even be illegal in my country here cuz of moto inspections, emissions, also a dt doesn't even have road tires..
Get a 65mm block and throw it in there.. It'll fit i promise and a jack up crankshaft, it'll make atleast 40hp. the block is similar to Y15zr, exciter 150,Mx king 150..all basically same bike but yeah just for reference. in case you can't find it in the state, Malaysia is have huge selection of aftermarket parts for these engine we got custom cams and all
Hello I have the same Engine in a Beta RR Lc 125 2020. I have biluilt in a 180 kit with an 180 Zylinder Header. Do you know what carburetor settings it can have Hood and stand nozzle?
Thats great to hear 20hp tho is a good gain suppose thats down to how well its tuned yeah every engine is different definitely agreeable but should all be around the same being yamaha lol
Cranckshaft is not same as camshaft? Cuz Malossi makes a camshaft too for this kit. I think that extra stress shouldn't be a problem, this kit has been installed many times on a WR so, but WR is already out of production for years and I don't like it very much cuz it's a heavy ass bike and it was really expensive too. My 125cc 4stroke, also a supermoto weighs like 40kg less lol, I think with this kit it would be crazy fast...
Hey, maybe a late question, but what MAP did you use after installing the PC5 did you get it dyno"ed straight away or programmed one from the dynojet site? If you still have the MAP (125cc)/(180cc) with full exhaust and K&N filter installed, is there a possibilty to get it from you?...
@@BaconMoto Beste Bacon, Heeft u de map van de 180cc nog? ik ben namelijk bezig met het ombouwen, maar ik moet met de motor naar de DynoJet kunnen rijden om hem helemaal te laten fine tunen... wellicht kan dit met de map die u er toen voor heeft laten maken, Ik ben natuurlijk bereid ervoor te betalen. Mvg!
hi i have a 2016 wr125r and the neutral light, signals , horn and the speedometer stopped working. any idea why? maybe a wire came out or a fuze died? the bike is running good and starting well
Did you put it on the dyno with the dB killer? If you put the dB killer back in you will instantly get at least 0.5 extra HP due to back pressure but with your 180 kit I imagine you’d be looking more towards 1hp, these gains may sound pathetic but I imagine it might help abit if ur planning on going as fast as possible on these little machines (I know this is true on most WR’s as I’ve seen many dyno sheets using this method but every bike is different)
If you maintain your bike properly, and more regularly than with 125cc, I really don't think it'll harm the engine. No guarantee of course because every bike is different.
@@Michael-zf7bj Yeah, just check the bike more regularly, maybe it's not necessary but I like to. After all, it's upgraded so more wear on the bike. Better safe than sorry
My WR125x has 31K km on it now always changed my oil and filters on time do you think that would matter if I upgraded to 180 with camshaft? also there is a giant price difference in the kit that you use and Malossi do you think it is the same quality or wil the one that you use last a bit shorter, because i think malossi is just overrated.
I chose for this one because it had good reviews and is way cheaper then the malossi kit and it had some good reviews to it. Also It's hard to say if your bike will or won't take the 180. Look around on what km's others changed the 125 to a 180. If some have changed it around 30k and still drive without any problems, why not? If not i would be careful installing it, without changing the bearings/ crank just to be safe.
Didn't encounter any, just make sure you don't have a lot of km's on the engine. If you do i would do a rebuild. I had the racing camshaft in this engine.
Stock they make 15 hp at the crank, not wheel. HP to the wheel is 9-12 on most 125's. Going from that to double is really fast. I'm guessing this guy has around 24 hp at the crank right now with the kit.
Hows the torque so low? Is it because of the electric injection? I dynoed my 183cc husqvarna without a steeper camsaft and got 21nm and 18hp? Or is it that I have malossi piston instead of that what you have
@@bekeneel actually, the WR has just been released in Indonesia. Instead of a 125cc engine, it comes with a 155cc engine. It's pretty much the same, but the engine comes with VVA (or in Honda's terms, Hyper VTEC).
@@Farie977 Aha, well in my country I would need a special moto license and lessons then to drive more than 125cc (officially) and taht's expensive again, so is this new WR version for just indeonsia or..
My friends 50ccm bikr has something around 24hp but he got a 86ccm tuning kit and fully buyld for races but i think whit a better setup you could get something around 28hp
@@cocoguardian6679 Any lol, nah, just fucking with people who are into 4-strokes more. I'd still go for a DT125 or a KMX, just because I like two strokes more.
For the 180cc upgrade and comdand thing is it true that it all needs remaping or not I got the same bike and wanted to do it myself then I heard it may need remapping and put me off doing so
Yup, that's correct. You need to dyno for it not to run lean and destroy your engine. if you go to a proper tuner, he or she can tell you everything about it
Oh thought you meant the catalyst, I removed the db-killer (alltho it was just sound absorbing material around the headpipe), but I don't recommend it really, you should get rid of the catalyst instead or get a full exhaust system alltogethere. I planned to just remove that cat on mine but now found out in 2 years in my country there will be inspection for motos too, then i will need the original exhaust (with cat), so i just bought the scalvini full exhaust for my fantic, better sound, more power etc..
Hello, I was wondering how much power can a WR gain with just new full exhaust system and the kn filter... do u know? Because it is my actual customization.
The exhaust is euro 4. So the law within the European union is that it has to have a db-killer installed. I don't know the law outside the EU but just watch for police and don't make a lot of noise when they're around. That's how I do it without a db killer
Bacon Moto alright thanks I’m running it without now anyway just got a power commander for my wr125x not sure how to go about mapping it could you point me in the right direction? Thanks
I have a full arrow exhaust system and a k and n air filter and just installed power commander V so a map for that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
@@zacsibley690 Hey! sorry for taking a while to get back to you! I got the standard PC5 map from the Dynojet website and used that to see how it ran, adjusted where needed & boom, there's your map! Note; I wouldn't use this forever since every bike is different and a dyno tune is always the best option.
If you could play with the ignition timing, this thing easily rips to 12000rpm with peak power at about 10500rpm like all the 63mm pistons here in Malaysia. Power commander sucks, best if you can get a standalone ecu from southeast Asia.
Pretty good, but the stock engine has around 14/15 hp
Thanks and True! But Yamaha lists the engine hp and this is an estimate of the rear wheel hp next to the dyno rwhp
@@BaconMoto of course, 14 hp at the crank😉 I have a Husqvarna with the same engine (carburetor) and I wish I had the money to modify it
Well i had my wr125x with IXIL full system and K&N airfilter on the dyno and it gave around 10/11 HP now it was running lean because i dont have a PC (thats 10/11HP on the rear wheel tho) *cool fact in a tunnel with the wind in my back i hit the 132km/u on my dashboard... ofc this is like 125km/u on GPS but still thats fast...
125ccm bikes has only between 10 and 13 ps.
@@oihdnuoc679 no ?
2 Stroke 125 30+ HP 4 Stroke up to 20 HP
Extraordinary!
That sound really does it! 👍
Thank you! It really does yeah!
Did you break in that piston and cylinder? Pretty important when you want to keep your compression over longer periods of time! Sounds damn awesome
Break in?
@@blazexiytb I know I'm late, but yes. You need to break in a new engine. First 500 miles usually. Look it up, but every motorbike & new engine has to do it. Even if it's just been sat for a few months. You don't just get on it and max rev it. You need to let it run in slightly first, do an oil change (to remove gunk at the bottom from it sitting) and then you can ride like normal after a while.
Thanks for the video! Could the “average joe” do this? Or would it be better to have it done in a garage?
I'd say if you've ever had a dirtbike and did the maintenance yourself (timing, clutch, piston swap etc), go for it. But if you've never done anything on a bike regarding the engine, i'd recommend going to a friend that has the experience or a garage.
Thanks
@@BaconMoto does these parts exist for the Aprilia sx 125 4t?
The problem with tuning a WR engine is the head, it already is quite restrictive at 125cc’s.
Get a Stock DT and u will Kill that 180cc.... ;)
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dt200r
Jep
Wow u cannot compare a 2stroke with a 4stroke
Dt is superold, won't be reliable & in like 1.5 years it will probably even be illegal in my country here cuz of moto inspections, emissions, also a dt doesn't even have road tires..
Hey man nice build, what injector did you use? Thanks
Get a 65mm block and throw it in there.. It'll fit i promise and a jack up crankshaft, it'll make atleast 40hp. the block is similar to Y15zr, exciter 150,Mx king 150..all basically same bike but yeah just for reference. in case you can't find it in the state, Malaysia is have huge selection of aftermarket parts for these engine we got custom cams and all
Brother is there any site where i can find this stuff on i’m from europe so i dont know
Please upload a video of u riding it so we can decide if we want to do the upgrade. Thanks!
I'll do my best to shoot some footage of me riding it.
Hello I have the same Engine in a Beta RR Lc 125 2020. I have biluilt in a 180 kit with an 180 Zylinder Header. Do you know what carburetor settings it can have Hood and stand nozzle?
5 hp isnt bad considering you stared with around 13 thats like a quarter over all power gain id be curious how reliable those kits are tho
How the crankshaft dealing with the excess stress was thinking about doing this on my yzf same engine btw ?
Still going strong, no problems 'till now. It's always uncertain if the bike will take it, every engine is different.
Thats great to hear 20hp tho is a good gain suppose thats down to how well its tuned yeah every engine is different definitely agreeable but should all be around the same being yamaha lol
Cranckshaft is not same as camshaft? Cuz Malossi makes a camshaft too for this kit. I think that extra stress shouldn't be a problem, this kit has been installed many times on a WR so, but WR is already out of production for years and I don't like it very much cuz it's a heavy ass bike and it was really expensive too. My 125cc 4stroke, also a supermoto weighs like 40kg less lol, I think with this kit it would be crazy fast...
@@bekeneel What?
@@bekeneel @Neel Beke mt125 ktm125 and yzfr125 cbr125 all heavy to the wr125x is bit lighter do your research mate
Great video. How can I get some rings and piston with gasket for me yzf r125?
Minarelli engine right?
What year is your wr also how many miles did it have on the clock before you done the upgrade?
This is a 2016 wrx, had about 10k on the clock
What power commander did you buy mate and where from please
How much difference does the k&n air filter have compared to stock
What main jet would you recommend for 180cc Malossi? I have original 122 and I think about 130 - 135 - 140, what would you use?
Hello, we can find the same parts for a mt 125 so we can do the same prep as on this wrx 125?
Ride safe✌️
Have you seen the 220cc ultra big bore kit for them shit that’s what I want
Can you add the link to the site where you got the cylinder kit
Hey, maybe a late question, but what MAP did you use after installing the PC5 did you get it dyno"ed straight away or programmed one from the dynojet site? If you still have the MAP (125cc)/(180cc) with full exhaust and K&N filter installed, is there a possibilty to get it from you?...
I had it dyno'ed straight away. No standard map is sufficient enough for the bigbore
@@BaconMoto Beste Bacon, Heeft u de map van de 180cc nog? ik ben namelijk bezig met het ombouwen, maar ik moet met de motor naar de DynoJet kunnen rijden om hem helemaal te laten fine tunen... wellicht kan dit met de map die u er toen voor heeft laten maken, Ik ben natuurlijk bereid ervoor te betalen. Mvg!
@@The3SIXTYgamerNL did it work?
do you need to change the head if u want to install 180 kit? Is stock head compatible?
hi
i have a 2016 wr125r and the neutral light, signals , horn and the speedometer stopped working. any idea why? maybe a wire came out or a fuze died? the bike is running good and starting well
Are those stock bars? They look wider than the stock ones ? If u have long arms they are annoying
I believe so yeah, never changed them. I'll check it for sure if I'm at the bike again
Ik ben zelf ook aan het kijken voor een 180cc kit. Wat voor cinderkop en luchtfilter heb je? En heb je std drijfstang? En std oliepomp?
In my country this bike come with 155cc with 6 speed & fuel injection system. They called WR155 R
Kan je de 183cc kit zonder problemen gebruiken met de standaard cilinder kop?
where did you buy your 180 kit and your Arrow exhaust ?
Did you put it on the dyno with the dB killer? If you put the dB killer back in you will instantly get at least 0.5 extra HP due to back pressure but with your 180 kit I imagine you’d be looking more towards 1hp, these gains may sound pathetic but I imagine it might help abit if ur planning on going as fast as possible on these little machines (I know this is true on most WR’s as I’ve seen many dyno sheets using this method but every bike is different)
Nope Db killer went out after install of the exhaust and never went back in haha! But thanks for the heads up!
Does the engine broke when i do this for about 2 years?...sorry for bad english
If you maintain your bike properly, and more regularly than with 125cc, I really don't think it'll harm the engine. No guarantee of course because every bike is different.
@@BaconMoto k thanks
@@BaconMoto how do you mean maintain it more than 125 cc? U mean oil changes earlier etc? Thanks
@@Michael-zf7bj Yeah, just check the bike more regularly, maybe it's not necessary but I like to. After all, it's upgraded so more wear on the bike. Better safe than sorry
Hi did ye put a bigger injector body on the bike or just leave the 125 one on it and map it
Hows that that IAP fuel map going?
hello ca what level was level was piston change and reliability in general ?
Does KN filter work? Any difference in gas reaction, sound, power?
I mean it should like any aftermqrket good airfilter run better
Wich type is the cylinder? Many blown headgasket?
Do you have to do anything to the Power commander or can i just plug it in and im good to go?
The power commander itself doesn't do much. With a dyno you can tune a map specific for your bike and save that on the power commander.
@@BaconMoto can I get the tune please?
Is it possible that you could provide us woth the tuning map?
My WR125x has 31K km on it now always changed my oil and filters on time do you think that would matter if I upgraded to 180 with camshaft? also there is a giant price difference in the kit that you use and Malossi do you think it is the same quality or wil the one that you use last a bit shorter, because i think malossi is just overrated.
I chose for this one because it had good reviews and is way cheaper then the malossi kit and it had some good reviews to it. Also It's hard to say if your bike will or won't take the 180.
Look around on what km's others changed the 125 to a 180. If some have changed it around 30k and still drive without any problems, why not? If not i would be careful installing it, without changing the bearings/ crank just to be safe.
Hello,
you had reliability problems ?
and i have to buy the camshaft or not if i want 180cc ?
Thanks
Didn't encounter any, just make sure you don't have a lot of km's on the engine. If you do i would do a rebuild. I had the racing camshaft in this engine.
Does the original crankshaft hold that 180 cylinder? No injection modification?
It comes with a different mapping for it
Is it worth all the money and time for a 125, just to gain 5 hp? Love the bike by the way.
Stock they make 15 hp at the crank, not wheel. HP to the wheel is 9-12 on most 125's. Going from that to double is really fast. I'm guessing this guy has around 24 hp at the crank right now with the kit.
Hows the torque so low? Is it because of the electric injection? I dynoed my 183cc husqvarna without a steeper camsaft and got 21nm and 18hp? Or is it that I have malossi piston instead of that what you have
Could be the different piston, because the compression could be different so it produces more tourque or less
Hey what main jet size you used on ur husqvarna? I have original 122 for 125cc but now I have 180cc and I’m not sure if I should use 130, 135, or 140
@@blazexiytb I think I had 140 or 145.
@@Cptlink420 did it run well?
@@Cptlink420 your original was 122 too?
Why don't you remove the airfilter cover so there is more air flow
Now that there's a new VVA head on these engines, are you planning to switch the heads?
What do u mean? The wr is also not being made for years anymore.
@@bekeneel actually, the WR has just been released in Indonesia. Instead of a 125cc engine, it comes with a 155cc engine. It's pretty much the same, but the engine comes with VVA (or in Honda's terms, Hyper VTEC).
@@Farie977 Aha, well in my country I would need a special moto license and lessons then to drive more than 125cc (officially) and taht's expensive again, so is this new WR version for just indeonsia or..
@@bekeneel iirc it's for the SEA region, it was unveiled alongside the baby Yamaha XSR
What was the horsepower gain?
did you have the cam in at the dyno?
My friends 50ccm bikr has something around 24hp but he got a 86ccm tuning kit and fully buyld for races but i think whit a better setup you could get something around 28hp
Won't be long before it blows up
@@henryhaxby9283 its survifed until today and over 2000km
2 stroke?
@@wildwilco yes
@@Dinimer420 in that case, I used to own a 70cc, which had 22Hp to the wheel. 2 strokes are awesome.
Hi where do I get the 180 kit from
Did you change the cam shaft? Try modify the head. You will reach 30hp
@Estebita Latorre you can order hardened crankshaft for wr
Top speed km/h?
Still not as good as a 125cc smoker thoooo
Milan Vondřich which one?
@@cocoguardian6679 Any lol, nah, just fucking with people who are into 4-strokes more. I'd still go for a DT125 or a KMX, just because I like two strokes more.
😂hahah, nothing beats the smell of a 2stroke
@@BaconMoto And the 2stroke sound of angry bees
Milan Vondřich Id get a 2 stroke too but im not interested in having to search trough my concacts for a pickup after it breaks down 😂
verry good looking bike , and good minarelli engine
For the 180cc upgrade and comdand thing is it true that it all needs remaping or not I got the same bike and wanted to do it myself then I heard it may need remapping and put me off doing so
Yup, that's correct. You need to dyno for it not to run lean and destroy your engine. if you go to a proper tuner, he or she can tell you everything about it
@@BaconMoto wots that price range for it coz a legit place wont do it unless I had a full bike licence is that correct?
I lookt at the powercommander V link but cant find one who fits the wr125x. WIll it work if i chose the wr250x?
Nvm found one for The wr125x
@@MrZiko-nf9hx can you send me the link
@@vizu9597 powercommander.nl/dynojet-powercommander-pcv-yamaha-wr125x-2009-2013.html bought mine here yesterday...
is powercomander nessesery
What did you do with yamahas's own black cdi box?
Left it as it was
Random question about wr, can you remove the db killer off the stock exhaust?
Gianluca yeah
I'm guessing you can, but you'll have to drill out the rivets to get inside. and cut the baffle out
No u cant
Oh thought you meant the catalyst, I removed the db-killer (alltho it was just sound absorbing material around the headpipe), but I don't recommend it really, you should get rid of the catalyst instead or get a full exhaust system alltogethere. I planned to just remove that cat on mine but now found out in 2 years in my country there will be inspection for motos too, then i will need the original exhaust (with cat), so i just bought the scalvini full exhaust for my fantic, better sound, more power etc..
I have beta rr 50 factory 2016 swaped with 180 wrx engine and I bought exhaust with powerbomb
My top speed was 149km/h with gps
Hi man! I have a channel exclusive of 125 4t. I have a wr125x also. Can I use your video for my channel? You will sponsor and named in the video
Sure man, No problem!
@@BaconMoto Thank You very much! Have a nice day
@@4StrokesAttack spoiler!! Troppo reising
Hello, I was wondering how much power can a WR gain with just new full exhaust system and the kn filter... do u know? Because it is my actual customization.
GentleRider a couple of HP I think?
Hey! I don't think it's much, but i'm guessing like 5Hp? just a guess, you'll have to bench it to know for sure :)
I have k&n filter and fmf exhaust. But still have catalytic converter. İt sounds good. I recommend buying k&n it makes difference.
1 or 2
omg amazing
Map for power commander with arrow exhaust system no dB killer and k and n air filter?
I responded to that at your other comment :)
Hey! arrow header give you more torgue or what? i maybe buy it!
Hey! Yeah it gives a bit more power, but also better sound and less emission crap = happier bike haha!
@@BaconMoto is worth to buy air filter?
isn't the stock power 15hp?
At the crank. he's getting 20+ at the wheel, so near 30hp at the crank
@@TheFukkface hes getting 18 at wheel. no way in hell is it 30 at crank
Carb sound 😎🤩👍
its not carb
its 4takt right?
Is the exhaust legal without the dB killer??
The exhaust is euro 4. So the law within the European union is that it has to have a db-killer installed. I don't know the law outside the EU but just watch for police and don't make a lot of noise when they're around. That's how I do it without a db killer
Bacon Moto alright thanks I’m running it without now anyway just got a power commander for my wr125x not sure how to go about mapping it could you point me in the right direction? Thanks
I have a full arrow exhaust system and a k and n air filter and just installed power commander V so a map for that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks
@@zacsibley690 Hey! sorry for taking a while to get back to you! I got the standard PC5 map from the Dynojet website and used that to see how it ran, adjusted where needed & boom, there's your map! Note; I wouldn't use this forever since every bike is different and a dyno tune is always the best option.
Bacon Moto much appreciated could you link the pc5 map it would be great thanks!
where can i buy the air filter?
and how old do you need to be for making your bike 180cc?
Depends on where u live. I live in Czechia (centre of Europe) and the limit here for 16yo is 125cc 15PS (11kw). Try to google it :)
Mooi geluid komt er uit !
If you could play with the ignition timing, this thing easily rips to 12000rpm with peak power at about 10500rpm like all the 63mm pistons here in Malaysia. Power commander sucks, best if you can get a standalone ecu from southeast Asia.
what kind of ecu's do you recommand then? could you tell me wich?
well ignition timing is not everything, camshaft timing has to allow the right flow at high rpms, too
Wat is de topsnelheid met de 180cc kit?
hi can u share your dino map for pw5 ?
Every bike is different, so unfortunately I can't, sorry!
@@BaconMoto wuss
What year and model is your bike?
it's a 2016 wr125x
1:47 the tube you connected to the exhaust pipe is the exhaust gas swirl blocker
What is your sprocket? 57 tooth?
sprockets are all stock. Front is currently 14 tooth, but i'm not sure what rear is.
I looked it up, rear is: 53
ok, thank you!
Heeft hij nu 180cc of 125cc?
Ça a coûter combien cette prepa
Top speed ?
my 80cc derbi has 20 HP too✌️
Yeah 2 stroke powerr
and how much torque?
Chris NvdD i something like 9-10 Nm
tested, on the wheel?
Neel Beke nope is written in the papers you get with the cylinder
yo bro can u link me the stuff for the 180cc conversion?
Yes of course! I've put the products in the description!
Would u say it’s worth it to convert it? Good top speed difference?
@@senkrzy5564 I would say yes, The top speed is about 12km/h higher but hits the rev limiter. So i think it will go even higher.
Is it not just better to buy 250 motor just wondering
so what would the top speed be on this now then?
Around 10/15 km/h higher
what is the top speed?
Why yamaha is not seeling wr125x anymore???
That's right the latest model is 2016, i believe.
Antes de embragar mete la marcha se pensara que es listos y menudas reducciones asi se joden engranajes y la horquilla del cambio
How much faster it will go now?
It goes around 10/15 kmph faster with stock sprockets. but i'm going to change the sprockets rartio somewhere next week to get more top end.
Why you dont cut a hole in the airfilterbox
Can this kit work on xt 125?
No sure! Check out the link to the kit in the description, if it's listed there it'll fit
top speed?
0-100 km/h?
How much did it all cost?
More than the bike itself
v max ?
Mantap gaes....👍👍👍
Wieviel ps
Just to barely gap 125 fantic or beta damn
cant do that much about the weight loss of an enduro bike
Have shared the map PCV ? Please
Can't do that, sorry!
Can the stock engine handle the 180ccm kit?
Yeah, this engine had around 8k on it when it was upgraded, still going strong with 13k+ on it now
@@BaconMoto Oh ok thanks 👍
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