Bro I’ve been looking for a lens to buy for my 90D & was gonna save for the sigma 24-70m art lens but I think I like this one, it’s half the price. How’s it been with it?
really like to see the difference between the old version, especially the focusing motor, as they advertised using the improved motor otherwise there's minimal difference between each other but the exterior design, like its little brother 11-16 atx-i
Damien - I recently purchased a BMPCC6K Pro and decided upon two Meike S35 Cinema Lenses - 12mm and 18mm to go with the camera. I should have discovered your video MUCH EARLIER, as I already had a 11-16mm (circa 2010) and 11-20mm (circa 2022) Tokina lenses which I've been using with an APSC camera. Both of these lenses seem to have an image circle greater than the S35 sensor of the 6K Pro, as I can detect no vignetting on the camera's image when using either of these Tokina lenses. I've checked a number of my Canon lenses for APSC cameras (including a "modified" EFS 10-18mm STM lense and have been pleasantly surprised to find no vignetting. Thanks for calling to my attention - that some lenses marketed as APSC will also work on the BMPCC6K's S35 sensor !
I think that the vignette of the C300III comes and goes because of a setting on the camera. I would look for a "lens correction" setting to turn it off. At least on my 5DIV was like that. Turned off lens correction on video mode and the weird vignette on/off of every lens I use, is gone! Nice video, this Tokina lens is something I look forward to buy
Can't find a filter that does not vignette with the 17:9 sensor of the RED Komodo. Even the lens hood vignettes. Any suggestions on super thin filters for ND?
I'll eventually add this lens for the 11mm focal length on my R7/Viltrox EF-R3 combo. It will become a 12.5mm at F2. Alternatively, it will be a great addition to my BMPCC6K too.
Done. Wider than the Sigma 14mm 1.8 and still no distorsion. Good buy. But it does NOT work with the R7/Viltrox combo. It's an APS-C lens so it won work as you make your lens become Full Frame like. But, it works with the regular adapter with ND, CPL and UV filter becoming a 17,6 mm . I think i'll stick it to my BMPCC6K.
Thanks for such a detailed review. I'm looking to do some Milky way photography with a Nikon D7500 but am confused whether to buy a Tokina 11-16 f2.8 or a Tokina 11-20 f2.8. I've read some pretty good reviews about the 11-16 but also that it gives a hard time to focus at infinity, which I believe is essential to photograph the milky way. Kindly advise which lens should I go with?
@@sourityadas6041 Wish I knew that before buying the older 11-16. People recommended it as a good budget wide. Long story short I took it to a real estate shoot and hated the footage.
Thanks to flawless review! bro!! i'm going to buy Tokina 11-20mm but I can't find difference of "ATX-i" and "AT-X".... if you know the difference, Can you explain it please?!?!!! T_T..... I really really hope it
How is this lens handling the chromatic aberration as i own the 11-16 DXII (Old version) and on only on this department is terrible i would upgrade to this version only because of that
It is ok, but there's faster glass out there for APS-C. The Sigma 16mm f/1.4 or Fuji 16mm f/1.4 are probably the best in the entire APS-C industry right now. Rokinon 12mm f/2 is also a popular favourite.
I have just purchased FUJI XT4. It is APS-C Camera. How can i use this lense ? I will get 16-29 in 35mm format with adopter ? Which adopter is better for Fuji ?
Hi I'm Italian and my English is not good enough. According to you, I have a canon 80d and a Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM I want to replace the 10-18 with a better but not very expensive lens. What do you recommend the tokina 11- 20 f2.8 or the canon 16-35 f4? Thanks for your answer Bye from Italy
Another great "real world" video which I think really sets apart your content by the way for people like me who buy this stuff for making a living. Ok so dumb question here, after I just ordered this lens because of your video hahah, but when I put this lens on my BMPCC4K with my EF MB Speedbooster .67 ... what happens? Is the lens usable in that entire 11-20mm range? (I know there will be a 1.22 crop due to BM4K+Speedbooster) Also ... if I put this on my Canon R5, is it fully usable in the 11-20mm range? Thanks so much! I've never used an APS-C lens on full frame-ish so was curious, thanks guys!
I have the former version but all my wide angle zoom apsc lenses are quite bad on my Nikon D500. So I tried the Nikon 14-24 f2.8 ( I know it is a FF lens) at 14mm versus my apsc lenses and the Nikon trashes all of them. Ok 14mm apsc means 21 FF equivalent so not most wide angle but is apsc suitable for wideangle? I do not think so. For real great wide angle fullframe is just the best.
probably stupid question but can you shoot at 12 & 13mm on the 11-20mm tokina lens? Since it doesn’t have the 12 & 13 markings written on it. It goes 11, 14, 16, 18, 20
I have the Tokina 11-20, I suppose now the older model.. and for video use, I hate it. I shoot on a Sony, and I need an EF to Sony-E adapter. In manual mode, its perfectly fine. But, if I want to have autofocus, when vlogging or when on a gimbal, its 100% useless. It does not work. I am wondering how this will compare, if the lens will actually focus when using an adapter for autofocus video
Sony sucks for adapted glass, you will never get AF for video like the native lenses. The Tokina lens on Canon or Nikon works flawlessly for video. On the photo side it has a lot of aberration.
THE BLACK RINGS: I got that same thing on my EOSR, but it went away when I turned off the aberration correction mode... does the you camera have that? It fixed the problem for me 👍🏽👍🏽
Monkeypixels I was very mad and I almost returned the lens until my friend told me the firmware in lens (tamron 85mm) might not be updated and turn off aberration correction, and it fixed the problem!
I’m thinking of getting 11-20 2.8 for my canon c70 do you think it has vignetting Is there other better option for wide angle lens for c70 Thank you so much
My Tokina just arrived for my Canon 90D. Build quality is ultra-sturdy and heavy so just trying to balance on my Ronin S. Can you recommend an ND filter, please?
@@damiencooper Thanks for your reply. I put the Tokina ATXi lens to the test this afternoon in both a dark and light showroom in Liverpool on a miserable drizzly day and the lens performed great indoors at f3.5 and f4 at ISO 200 and 400 (at f2.8 the lens lit up the room). Monkey Pixels, I took a chance based on your reviews and you didn't disappoint. Simply amazing quality with a slider at 4K with ROCK SOLID verticals and Horizontals. This lens is excellent. The build is top-notch and just as good as any Canon lens and costs a heck of a lot less. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THANKS GUYS
Thanks for the review! I actually prefer the focus clutch system, it's faster and give a more manual focus feeling. Can this lens cover a full frame sensor at 16mm and above?
Anyone knows what's the difference between this lens and the Tokina ATX-i 11-16 f2.8 ? I mean, the 11-20 does exactly what the 11-16 lens do with 4mm more reach. So what's the point of making these two lenses ?
Hey man, have you used this with your R5? I’m noticing that some third party crop lenses are able to be used as full frame lenses. For example, if I use the Tamron 10-24 crop lens with EF adapter, the R5 behaves like a 13mm full frame at its widest with NO vignetting. Do you know if this lens forces the R5 into crop mode? Thanks.
I have a Nikon D3300, and bought the Tokina AT-X 11-20mm f2.8 Pro DX. Now, apparently both my camera and the lens do not have built in autofocus. So I could only focus manually. I am currently in the process of returning the lens, also because the focussing ring does not properly switch between AF and MF, it tilts and does not stay in place. Why they did not choose for a simple little button switch is beyond me.. I sent an e-mail to Tokina USA, where they informed me the lens could autofocus with my D3300, so I don't know if the lens I got is just horribly malfunctioning or the person responding had no clue what they were talking about. After some digging I discovered the 11-16mm DX also does not autofocus and the 11-16mm DXII does. Which makes me reconsider just buying the 11-16 DXII instead of the 11-20 DX, or waiting until they update this built in autofocus mechanism. What I am mostly curious about, and could not find on my own, is if this ATX-i CF version DOES have built in autofocus, or if the i means this one can autofocus with the D3300.
I owned the 11-20 AND D3300. It does indeed Autofocus on that body. I now moved to Canon and again bought the EF version of this lens and it works great.
If you only had the 6k you'd be better served with the cine version of this lens. Photo lenses have terribly short focus throws making manually focusing a real chore for any subject further away than a meter.
This lens is fantastic, it worked perfectly with my Canon 90D, resolves the 32MPX quite nicely
Bro I’ve been looking for a lens to buy for my 90D & was gonna save for the sigma 24-70m art lens but I think I like this one, it’s half the price. How’s it been with it?
@@slw.2gr it's been amazing! it's incredible sharp but it's BIG, it's a wonderful lens. Just be sure to get the latest model.
@@VladimirHidalgo okay thank you !
really like to see the difference between the old version, especially the focusing motor, as they advertised using the improved motor
otherwise there's minimal difference between each other but the exterior design, like its little brother 11-16 atx-i
Damien - I recently purchased a BMPCC6K Pro and decided upon two Meike S35 Cinema Lenses - 12mm and 18mm to go with the camera. I should have discovered your video MUCH EARLIER, as I already had a 11-16mm (circa 2010) and 11-20mm (circa 2022) Tokina lenses which I've been using with an APSC camera. Both of these lenses seem to have an image circle greater than the S35 sensor of the 6K Pro, as I can detect no vignetting on the camera's image when using either of these Tokina lenses. I've checked a number of my Canon lenses for APSC cameras (including a "modified" EFS 10-18mm STM lense and have been pleasantly surprised to find no vignetting. Thanks for calling to my attention - that some lenses marketed as APSC will also work on the BMPCC6K's S35 sensor !
Can I use this on my Canon M50 with a Viltrox Speed Booster?
Awesome review! Excellent sample shots for demonstrating the versatility.
thanks a l lot!
May I ask what arms you had rigged up to the Zhiyun crane?
I think that the vignette of the C300III comes and goes because of a setting on the camera. I would look for a "lens correction" setting to turn it off. At least on my 5DIV was like that. Turned off lens correction on video mode and the weird vignette on/off of every lens I use, is gone! Nice video, this Tokina lens is something I look forward to buy
Did you pair this lens with sigma art series? Using on 5d4 as well.
at 16mm you can fit it in full frame which is awesome, use it with speedbooster and you get a f2.0 with the wide and zoom lens
You can actually do the same with the 11-16.
And more then 16? Can i use this on full frame?
Got this lens as the investment of the year - but next year is soon and I wanna go full frame so I really hope I can still use it between 16-20mm!
Can't find a filter that does not vignette with the 17:9 sensor of the RED Komodo. Even the lens hood vignettes. Any suggestions on super thin filters for ND?
did you ever try it with the Komodo? :)
I wonder how this compares to the 11-20mm Tokina cinema version ?
I'll eventually add this lens for the 11mm focal length on my R7/Viltrox EF-R3 combo. It will become a 12.5mm at F2. Alternatively, it will be a great addition to my BMPCC6K too.
Done. Wider than the Sigma 14mm 1.8 and still no distorsion. Good buy. But it does NOT work with the R7/Viltrox combo. It's an APS-C lens so it won work as you make your lens become Full Frame like. But, it works with the regular adapter with ND, CPL and UV filter becoming a 17,6 mm . I think i'll stick it to my BMPCC6K.
Just ordered mines today! Should come in a week! Can’t wait to use this lens with my pocket 6k!
Where did you order it from? I can't find it for sale anywhere in the UK
Thanks for the review... but the focus-ring not-like is your bad, I love it
Thanks for such a detailed review. I'm looking to do some Milky way photography with a Nikon D7500 but am confused whether to buy a Tokina 11-16 f2.8 or a Tokina 11-20 f2.8. I've read some pretty good reviews about the 11-16 but also that it gives a hard time to focus at infinity, which I believe is essential to photograph the milky way. Kindly advise which lens should I go with?
I know, a year later, but for astrophotography it won't matter as you'll manual focus anyway.
Which one did you get for your d7500? I’m in a similar situation
@@sdhute Tokina 11-20 f2.8. But buy the newer model. The older model is not very good.
@@sourityadas6041 Wish I knew that before buying the older 11-16. People recommended it as a good budget wide. Long story short I took it to a real estate shoot and hated the footage.
Does this come with the BH-821 lens hood?
is anyone aware if it makes that awful sound when its in autofocus mode?
Great video! Do you know what are the differences between this new lens and the older version? Thanks!
Great review! I’ll order mine soon
Thanks to flawless review! bro!!
i'm going to buy Tokina 11-20mm
but I can't find difference of "ATX-i" and "AT-X"....
if you know the difference, Can you explain it please?!?!!! T_T.....
I really really hope it
How is this lens handling the chromatic aberration as i own the 11-16 DXII (Old version) and on only on this department is terrible i would upgrade to this version only because of that
Qs: chromatic abberation? And do you think it can blend with sigma art series?
Given the low aperture f2.8, would you recommend this lens for shooting Milkyway?
It is ok, but there's faster glass out there for APS-C. The Sigma 16mm f/1.4 or Fuji 16mm f/1.4 are probably the best in the entire APS-C industry right now. Rokinon 12mm f/2 is also a popular favourite.
I have just purchased FUJI XT4. It is APS-C Camera. How can i use this lense ? I will get 16-29 in 35mm format with adopter ? Which adopter is better for Fuji ?
Hi
I'm Italian and my English is not good enough.
According to you, I have a canon 80d and a Canon EF-S 10-18mm f/4.5-5.6 IS STM
I want to replace the 10-18 with a better but not very expensive lens. What do you recommend the tokina 11- 20 f2.8 or the canon 16-35 f4?
Thanks for your answer
Bye from Italy
Thanks again for your reviews
Thanks for the comment ;)
Another great "real world" video which I think really sets apart your content by the way for people like me who buy this stuff for making a living. Ok so dumb question here, after I just ordered this lens because of your video hahah, but when I put this lens on my BMPCC4K with my EF MB Speedbooster .67 ... what happens? Is the lens usable in that entire 11-20mm range? (I know there will be a 1.22 crop due to BM4K+Speedbooster) Also ... if I put this on my Canon R5, is it fully usable in the 11-20mm range? Thanks so much! I've never used an APS-C lens on full frame-ish so was curious, thanks guys!
Thinking about this lens for the red Komodo. sensor that measures 27.03mm x 14.25mm (6144 x 3240). What do you think ?
This is a very thorough review. I’m buying this lens with your link my friend. Thank you!
Bought this lens a few months back. You wont be disappointed. Its perfect for real estate too
Its better than sigma 10 20 f3.5?
I have the former version but all my wide angle zoom apsc lenses are quite bad on my Nikon D500. So I tried the Nikon 14-24 f2.8 ( I know it is a FF lens) at 14mm versus my apsc lenses and the Nikon trashes all of them. Ok 14mm apsc means 21 FF equivalent so not most wide angle but is apsc suitable for wideangle? I do not think so. For real great wide angle fullframe is just the best.
Ist aber ne APS-C Linse, richtig? Du nutzt die dann an der R nur in 4k mit entsprechendem Crop?
An der R habe ich gar nicht vor sie zu nutzen. Aber wenn ich nur die R hätte würde ich sie für 4k nutzen
Great review as always! Thanks!
Thanks - Ive been weighing up the Z50 and a Weebill S - this lens looks like it would suit that combination.
Never heard of a Z50 :D
@@damiencooper I thought not :-)
Loved your video! Did you notice problem with infinity focus? Was it sharp straight out of the box?
from what range i can use it in full frame camera like 1dxmark 2?
16mm on, before 16mm you will see vignetting I think
alter Falter was für ein shot at 0:49
weißt du vielleicht noch ob das 6k oder 4k war? braw oder prores?
bin wirklich geflasht!!!
Is there any difference with the older version? is it worth the $80 difference?
Can I use the speed booster with this lens on my M6 Mark ii?
Great video bro, This lens looks amazing!
thanks man
@@damiencooper Anytime buddy!
I'm in doubt between this lens or the New Tamron 10-24mm sp hld
What did you decide finally? Even i m considering these two.
@@krishnakumargiyer Tonkina
probably stupid question but can you shoot at 12 & 13mm on the 11-20mm tokina lens? Since it doesn’t have the 12 & 13 markings written on it. It goes 11, 14, 16, 18, 20
It's continuous - it does anything between those millimeters. But the details on the picture might not show if its 11.15 or 11 or 12 and so on
I just ordered the 'TOKINA ATX-i 11-20mm F2.8 Canon EF-S Mount'. It doesn't fit on my BMPCC4K. What do I do?
the BMPCC4k has a micro four thirds mount. EF Lenses won't fit unfortunately. you could use a speed booster for it
@@damiencooper So, now I have a 'TOKINA ATX-i 11-20mm F2.8 Nikon F (DX) Mount'. What speed booster do I need to buy?
Hi, is there a difference to the 11-20 cf ? Or only the housing ?
This particular lens doesn't have VR (IS). Have you felt the need of an image stabilisation function while doing hand-shots or was it alright?
Never needed it. Especially on such a wide lens
I have the Tokina 11-20, I suppose now the older model.. and for video use, I hate it. I shoot on a Sony, and I need an EF to Sony-E adapter. In manual mode, its perfectly fine. But, if I want to have autofocus, when vlogging or when on a gimbal, its 100% useless. It does not work.
I am wondering how this will compare, if the lens will actually focus when using an adapter for autofocus video
Sony sucks for adapted glass, you will never get AF for video like the native lenses. The Tokina lens on Canon or Nikon works flawlessly for video. On the photo side it has a lot of aberration.
82 mm filter? I see it described as 67mm.
THE BLACK RINGS: I got that same thing on my EOSR, but it went away when I turned off the aberration correction mode... does the you camera have that? It fixed the problem for me 👍🏽👍🏽
huh, good to know. I, unfortunately, didn't have enough time to do more testing. But I guessed it was a software issue
Monkeypixels I was very mad and I almost returned the lens until my friend told me the firmware in lens (tamron 85mm) might not be updated and turn off aberration correction, and it fixed the problem!
How does it compare to Tamron 10-24mm F/3.5-4.5 Di-II VC HLD?
Interested to know if you made a choice between the two. I m also considering these two.
How do perform on Eos R6? 11mm? Crop?
would love to see a comparison with the older version
Yup, that lack renders this video useless
Does the lens show up and chromatic aberration at wide open 11mm.
Nice video bro.
none that I have seen
I’m thinking of getting 11-20 2.8 for my canon c70 do you think it has vignetting
Is there other better option for wide angle lens for c70
Thank you so much
No vignetting. I used it a lot. But I mostly use the cine version of it. I don’t think there’s anything better
@@damiencooper thank you Damien for the info
Appreciated
Nice review. Thank you
Can you mount this on an EF->M43 Speedbooster like the 18-35? Looking for a wider angle complement to the Sigma on my GH5
Yes, just use the EF version of this lens.
@@raksh9 Does this lens have an Ef and Ef-s version?
@@TheSagnac No, but there is a Nikon mount version, so just be careful when if you buy one if you need EF mount.
My Tokina just arrived for my Canon 90D. Build quality is ultra-sturdy and heavy so just trying to balance on my Ronin S. Can you recommend an ND filter, please?
Check out freewell. This is what I’m using. Video coming on these soon!
@@damiencooper Thanks for your reply. I put the Tokina ATXi lens to the test this afternoon in both a dark and light showroom in Liverpool on a miserable drizzly day and the lens performed great indoors at f3.5 and f4 at ISO 200 and 400 (at f2.8 the lens lit up the room). Monkey Pixels, I took a chance based on your reviews and you didn't disappoint. Simply amazing quality with a slider at 4K with ROCK SOLID verticals and Horizontals. This lens is excellent. The build is top-notch and just as good as any Canon lens and costs a heck of a lot less. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED THANKS GUYS
WELL DONE! Amazing review.
Thanks for the review!
I actually prefer the focus clutch system, it's faster and give a more manual focus feeling.
Can this lens cover a full frame sensor at 16mm and above?
I don't know. The EOS R automatically switches to S35 mode when you attach it
Yes, it can. It works perfectly on my Nikon D850 from 16mm to 20mm in FX mode.
Anyone knows what's the difference between this lens and the Tokina ATX-i 11-16 f2.8 ?
I mean, the 11-20 does exactly what the 11-16 lens do with 4mm more reach.
So what's the point of making these two lenses ?
My guess is that the 11-16 came out earlier. I got the 11-20 this year but neither seems available anymore. Price could be a difference
Done, I'm ordering 😎👍
Hey man, have you used this with your R5? I’m noticing that some third party crop lenses are able to be used as full frame lenses. For example, if I use the Tamron 10-24 crop lens with EF adapter, the R5 behaves like a 13mm full frame at its widest with NO vignetting. Do you know if this lens forces the R5 into crop mode? Thanks.
Do you have the tamron 10-24mm sp.. The second version?... If.
Is it good, it's not really fast, starts at f3.5.....how is it in night photography?
How is the focus breathing?
Ed Hughes none at all as mentioned in the video 😉
I have a Nikon D3300, and bought the Tokina AT-X 11-20mm f2.8 Pro DX. Now, apparently both my camera and the lens do not have built in autofocus. So I could only focus manually. I am currently in the process of returning the lens, also because the focussing ring does not properly switch between AF and MF, it tilts and does not stay in place. Why they did not choose for a simple little button switch is beyond me..
I sent an e-mail to Tokina USA, where they informed me the lens could autofocus with my D3300, so I don't know if the lens I got is just horribly malfunctioning or the person responding had no clue what they were talking about. After some digging I discovered the 11-16mm DX also does not autofocus and the 11-16mm DXII does. Which makes me reconsider just buying the 11-16 DXII instead of the 11-20 DX, or waiting until they update this built in autofocus mechanism.
What I am mostly curious about, and could not find on my own, is if this ATX-i CF version DOES have built in autofocus, or if the i means this one can autofocus with the D3300.
I owned the 11-20 AND D3300. It does indeed Autofocus on that body. I now moved to Canon and again bought the EF version of this lens and it works great.
Where can you purchase this lens in Europe?
I believe it's being shipped to all major resellers and Amazon now
does it support ND Filters?
yes, no problem
What speed booster do you need for it to fit on a BMPCC4K?
You can get an old Aputure which has a follow focus and 2x speedbooster.
Cool did you keep the C300 then? :)
not yet. Still contemplating
Does anyone know if this lens fits and works well on a Canon R6?
Very nice review brother,
*Good Footage* 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That color grad in italy!!!
O Yes! Is Parfokal.
do yuknow it fit for nikon d5300 ???ty
Wish Canon made this lens for their APS-C range
and it’ll cost you 2000 dollars
Protrude is the right word.
loved the vid bro
Why isn't anybody talking about this lens...
it's very new
If you only had the 6k you'd be better served with the cine version of this lens. Photo lenses have terribly short focus throws making manually focusing a real chore for any subject further away than a meter.
true, but it's a lot more expensive!
230 dollars where
230? Nowhere :D
NO WHERE
@@damiencooper pues no lo digas en el video xd
What? 230 dollars? More like $499.
First 😛
third actually :D
Monkeypixels Dam it 😛
Definitely a $500 lens
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yet another little boy with pricey toys....