DO NOT USE Cold Air Intake!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2021
- Cold air intake Dyno test is WRONG before & after.
I give proof with a comparison the dyno results
aren't accurate.
Can a cold air intake damage your engine?
Today on Nates interactive auto we go over the cold air intake problems. So people say a cold air intake can cause a check engine light and thats true it possibly can. K&N performance cold air intake is a good quality brand. K&N is the best cold air intake according to many users. Can a cold air intake void warranty, no if they can't show that by you using the intake it caused damage. But if they can then yes you could void the warranty. Cold air intake vs stock. The better choice can depend on the intake and installation. cold air intake vs turbo we can cover at some point. OEM vs cold air Intake or original intake.
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I have to say there are pros and cons but tell us the experience you had because this is the best information from a unbiased source. Thank you for your time and kindness.
Had a spectra CAI on my 6.0 vortec for 9 years. I switched back to my stock box just to see if I could tell a difference in power. I absolutely lost power. It’s the high rpm high load power where you can feel it. I tow a 38’ camper and instantly felt a power loss during acceleration. Kept stock box on for a week then switched back to CAI. Stock box will never be used again.
This video was posted a couple hours ago and I couple hours ago I finished installing a cold air intake on my truck 😂👍🏻
That's so awesome, tell us the good or bad you experience from doing so. The NIA community brings the best knowledge.
Tune it! And install a flex fuel kit so you don't go broke with the gas prices
How has it been a year later?
@@cantControlLifemy car is good I got a cold air intake and it’s fine car not over heating are nothing don’t listen to this guy
For me its about the sound without compromising performance. There are plenty of other things to do to hain mkre5 performance. I just want that sweet sound of an SRI or CAI without damaging my engine and making it sound good. I could care less about gaining any hp from it
Sounds like you need to be worried about that engine more than a cold air intake reviews
..that thing is rattling
😂😂
It's a diesel engine, that's how they sound.
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. I was expecting a good engine sound 😂😂that rattling is not it hahahaha
Sitting idle or revving(of course)is gonna cause your temp to go up..but a good dyno tester knows to have forced airflow or a blower on the engine to simulate it going down the road ie, wind flow. CAI's are a great way to add midrange and top end to any engine. More airflow + more outflow = more power and better throttle response. As far as not being able to close a hood during a dyno test...I don't what thats about...
I've always seen a increase in
power when the filter had access to free-flowing air. You get an increase in power because the stock airbox is extremely inefficient, they're designed to be as quiet as possible, most of them have a hole right before the airbox sucking in air from your hot engine bay anyway, they do that so the engine doesn't hydrolock if you drive through a big puddle. If you fabricated an intake nicely you'll get five to ten per-cent increase in power, if the filter is in the middle of the engine bay sucking up hot-air you'll get a little bit of a decrease.
just bought a cold air intake for my 2013 hyundai accent gls. I just think it would probably sound cool and fun to install. I got the one that goes down into the bumper/side of the car in front of the wheel away from the engine.
I noticed a slight low end lose in power on my Mazda 3 since I put a cold air intake on it, but it sounds so good so I don't care🤣
Thanks for the video would u recommend k and n air filter ?
I've noticed little more throttle response .... and maybe 1 mile a gallon or so ... I wasn't expecting big hp gains ..
I have a 1.8 turbo beetle. I just ordered a cold air intake for it, but that is only because my car is a turbo. I would never put a cold air intake on a non turbo car. There is no point. The only reason I want one is for enhanced turbo noises. It doesn’t give you much in terms of power gains, so sound is the main reason for getting one.
Trust me, I've witnessed dozens of CAI dyno tests and yes they do make power, they have to be designed correctly for the engine platform its used on, and there has to already be an ineffeciency in the stock intake in order to take advantage of power increases.
Modern cars also need proper tuning to accompany the intake to maximize gains.
For some of us it's about the sound and not the gain
its more about the sound it gives you while making sure you dont lose performance. Its not about gaining perf at all atleast for me. I made sure it has fresh air supply with additional piping coming from foglight area on top of the stock "air" duct that the kit i have uses as well. from stop the car feels better and quicker, noticeably. Anything above 30-40 miles feels the same so there definitely is improvement and no real drawback of doing it. If you are in alot of stop and go traffic and its summer. There is a high chance of giving it a negative performance, then again. The stock airbox felt like that anyway. I always noticed the perf drop on my N/A engine with the stock airbox and 85F+ outside temps. it wasnt as snappy in lower speeds
turbo's i agree there is no point better of upgrading intercooler
but for NA car its one one of the biggest bolt on gains to be had
i have front mounted cold air intakes
ie sit infront of the radiator
WHY DONT YOU DO A VIDEO ON FIXING THE LIFTERS
This is indeed a topic of risk vs reward, driving speed, ambient temperature, length of snorkel, position of the entry point, material composition of said snorkel,,etc. Just for a few degrees in real world driving. 2014 gl63 the shoddy intake hoses provided by manufacturer is made of a felt like material and rips upon just looking at it, but the position was well researched, so I wrapped it in silicone tape and did notice the truck is a little more responsive.
People seems not to entend that a Proper CAI only add power to the car, specially a N/A when you the tune it and add more fuel for the better air flow and cooler air temperatures!
I have a g37. and the CAI going all the way to the front of the grille so... and my friends who have tunes have simple dyno charts to prove it. I think you mean don't get SHORT RAM intakes.
Can i use a headshield around my filter box ?
I was talking to a diesel shop owner he told me they love those cold air intakes. I was kinda surprised. Then he yeah half of our business is engine rebuilds due to those things.
Oh wow thats interesting, can you tell the NIA community more of what you know.
...... this is a damn lie..... there is no way that false information was given out
What the guy said was that the filters with the intake kits would let very fine particles through and showed me some of the intake tubes that had a fine layer of dust on the inside. I had a f450 with a 7.3 that had split the factory filter and ruined the engine. I was asking the them about changing it to a cold air intake and that's where it came up. I ended up put a ford kit, think it was called an extreme duty kit?
@@Waterskibug must be cheap filters never seen that with my k&N filters
Some of us have a hard time finding stock filters so have to modify
I couldn’t take anything you were saying seriously cause your engine sounds so bad 😂 that’s like taking home improvement advice from someone who lives in a cardboard box
I've been saying this for years observing dyno test with filters
So if it’s sealyall the way around does it help
When Tunie gets involved, you can maximize the power out of a cold air intake, but don’t go putting colder intakes on your grandma’s car it don’t work like that
Many factors may effect result not just like what you mention open hood but the fans they put in front as well. In spit of, the conclusion is if you lives in cold weather erea then cold air filter is worth it and the otherwise is right. If you are more speeding that lunching then cold air filter is the one and otherwise is correct. For me personally I recommend close one especially if you are smart and feeded it up with outside tube. And if your looking for sound? Just get exsust at least its real power.
Great video. Lol I call these cold air intakes hot air intakes.
I love this guy- can we get him to say,”Drugs er bad mk ?”
Intakes are good only for the seller’s pockets. They don’t do anything a stock intake can’t do.
I can say that many times if did incorrectly it can be worse. Have you had a bad experience with a cold air intake?
While in some situations, this might be the case, that is not the case in every situation. There have been documented increases in power with aftermarket intakes. As far as the "cold air" part of the intakes, some vehicle manufacturers have taken this to heart. I had a 92 Chevy pickup, N/A with the filter on top of the carb, but the intake from that was fed from a port in the passenger side of the engine compartment that lead to cooler air from under the front quarter panel instead the hotter air from inside the engine bay, from the factory. My newer (than 92) Silverado does the same thing, as does my new Ram. So, while not strictly speaking an "aftermarket" intake, from my understanding, this lends credence to the belief that cold air intakes have something behind the science. If not, why do all three of these trucks (and others made the same way *from the factory*) try to use colder air from outside of the engine bay instead of inside? Pretty sure a lot of other vehicles do the same thing already, without aftermarket mods.
You just proved that when your close the bonnet the engine bay heat will increase but having heatshilds and air flow to these filters will improve things such as how responsive the engine becomes and better air flow think of the standard air box like you breathing through a straw compared to breathing normally if these filter are installed properly and to a place where it can such fresh cold air then they work
I have a Turbo Mk4 gti 1.8t and using an cone intake makes the Turbo sound louder that was the main reason I installed (Fun Drive) I Drive Stick Shift. The instake is not close to the engine bay either.
And that’s with the car setting still vs having air flow
Just throw a good free flowing element in there and open the intake hole to the box up a bit.....better than those open filter "Cai"
My intake works great and stock air boxes are good for slow cars.
I dropped two Injen CAIs on my KIA Stinger and it is night and day!
As far as gaining significant horsepower from a cold air intake, you would need a custom tune, not the stock tune. If you have stock tune, stick to whatever air filter the car came from factory.
not true custom tune only needed if going for 3" pipe
i have stillen gen 3 long tube intakes before swap car had 288hp at the wheels after the swap had 300hp at the wheels inline with the dyno tests stillen had done and i could get more out of it with tuning but its not needed to get decent gains
What if they don't sell stock filters any more
This guy has no idea how a car even works.
Is a 2016 malibu 1.5t (engine T-LFV) ecm tunable
Your better off just adding a silicone hose and drop in reusable filters. 👍🏽
100% agree. cold air intakes are a gimmick. I use a standard k&n filter with original air box. Performance is excellent. CAI is good for performance cars
So it’s best to get a cold air intake with a closed housing then ok
Measuring temperature is the proper way to evaluate a CAI and no CAI manufacturer does this. That should be telling in itself. Instead they show you a dyno graph which is probably correct but misleading. Run a car on the dyno and you could see up to 25hp difference between runs without changing a thing.
It seems like cold air intakes are only for people who want their car to look and sound cooler. I am one of those people
U have to change where and how air will get to to your cold air intake to make it worth it most cars retard the intake system on purpose to restrict air flow thru the air scoops I’ve seen some that only pull air in thru a super small gap between the head light and hood and some that have up to 5 bends in a pipe for the air to travel from front of car to the intake
Thanks
Your best bet is to increase air FLOW, not Temperature. A cheap and dangerous way to do this is to remove your stock air filter and leave the stock intake.
They also sell high flow filters that fit in the stock airbox.
@@Silver1080P High flow air filters such as K&N can redirection the intended air flow in the air box making the air sensor read incorrectly... Thus making your engine run too rich or too lean...The manufacturer design plays more of a role than air flow itself if the air is not mapped correctly...High flow air filter works on a carburated motor where your rejetting the carburator to the air flow..You want more horsepower buy a turbo...
Yes you can use it
One you should probably put oil in your car Two a cold Air intake you're talking about is a short ram intake That takes the air inside underneath the hood not underneath the car like the cold air intake Which draws the cold air from outside up and into the motor.
You have to check temp while you driving, then the filter box will get cooler temperature.
I just want to hear my sutututu more
This is so true... Using the cold air intake makes my jeep run hotter.. Specially when ac is on
"Cold air intake"........The bad::: more chances of sucking in water on certain models, may require tune for best performance uplift, cost, air filter replacement availability, more noise,
The good::: more noise, cooler intake temps, denser air charge, larger area, less restriction at WOT, looks cool, counts as a real mod...
99% of the time there is a duct leading to your stock box. Leaving the duct and installing a short ram intake will breathe cold air from that said duct. If you don't remove the duct it's improving hp not losing. Also tuning the intake to your car will gain hp as well
I NEVER understood the concept of a cold air intake. Even when you do find one that is fully designed to intake air from outside of the engine bay, they are hella expensive and never give the return on investment. S&B = $350 for 4hp? Do you feel 4hp? No. You can turn off your A/C and probably net gain around 4hp for free if you desperately need it for a street race LOL. Truth is, CAI make sound. People think sound = power, but it doesn't. I can straight pipe my Sonata... but it doesn't mean that Theta 2.4 is making anymore juice at the wheels LOL!
There is so much truth in these statements. If you previously used a cold air intake please tell us what you experienced. This would help someone make a decision when they are considering it.
The intake is going to work but the power gains are minimal if you don't tune the car. I'm currently running on CAI, down pipe & Front pipe, Inlet and tune.
The car feels way more agile but the cost....and now with these insane gas prices I'm riding my bike lol.
My 20’ Toyota Yaris has 106hp, trust me when I say 4-5 hp will make a drastic difference in power.
***************************** JUST A FEW PROBLEMS WITH THIS TEST ********************************
Greetings - You just took a temperature (3:40) of a closed hood on a NON-MOVING vehicle whereas the buildup of heat is stagnant and higher. The air, while traveling, is not circulating in and around the hood displacing your recorded warmer temps. The functions of a proper heat shield, in which some of the CAI provide two of these, is also absent as these help isolate some of those higher temps. In addition, you recorded temps at the bottom of the engine to show cooler temps however some vehicles have the snorkel from the CAI right where the original intake was located - at the front grille. The GTI GOLF's snorkel is attached to the front grill area, not below the car as your test, in which the CAI (with heat shields) would be a compliment to it's original design.
I thank you for attempting to be scientific however I feel your test was an overall inaccurate collection of statistics to support your interests in if CAI are efficient or not. However you may have been incidentally correct on Dyno testing as their methods may be incorrect as well. Continue learning, my friend.
I thought about buying a Cold Air Intake. I would say it would look cool and sporty on my 2000 Toyota Camry LE 4 cylinder. There a Camry on the internet it was a 4 cylinder too. My young friend that works at Advance Auto Parts Store said don't. So far I haven't. Scotty Kilmer said not to either. Now you say not too. Okay I won't then geez.
I believe you must do research and install properly to make sure you don't have a negative experience.
If you are going to say that the issue you have is with the name, that's fine. But to say that the dyno tests are "rigged" because they have the hood open? That is why they take a baseline WITH THE HOOD OPEN first. Everything else stays the same, or do you think that all dyno tests are only valid if they have the hood closed on both ends of the test? Does that accurately 100% reflect real world driving conditions? Not at all, that was not the claim, only that they increased horsepower. If the test after shows an increase in horsepower and on both tests, the hood is open, how is that "rigged"?
But what if I be like Homer Simpson and make speed holes. Or a hood scoop
nobody is gonna take advice from somebody who has an engine knock that bad clearly, you know, absolutely nothing, we're not to take care of your vehicle
First: I have a CAI intake on my supercharger track use Civic with Ram air. And SHORT RAM INTAKE (up in engine bay) or COLD AIR INTAKE (away from engine located in fender) are two separate things. And yes I said track use only civic si. Not winter or rain driven.
So What advantage or disadvantages could you share this is very valuable for the NIA community. Thanks for taking time to share.
Is that a diesel 😬😬
Just unsulate the box and tubing
Oem intake.....
The bad::: looks boring, less noise, more restriction; most are plastic and may break latches easy, does not count as a mod, is Common,
The good:::: less noise, filters are easy to find, came with car zero cost to you, looks inconspicuous, may have cold air ducting engineered from
Oem (gets cold air from behind grille) less likely to intake water, easy to maintain, common.
Wait! - What about days that are already 80-100 degrees F?!?. Then it's impossible to have the filter receiving "cold air" (hood up or down - vehicle moving or not). Maybe the question is, does "cold air" entering the engine filter even matter?
When the car is moving the air is cooler than air temperature...SMH...Go out on a windy day...WOW really you just said that...Cold air intakes work way better with hood scoops on the car or no hood at all...A correctly used CIA must be in an area where colder air is coming into the engine bay...
@petedetraglia4776 wind may "feel cooler" to a human, at times, but air temperature is air temperature regardless of wind.
Put a Sri on my car the temp guage is the same between stock and my Sri difference is I get more torque and better gas with my Sri
Hillbillie Dan. Why you wearing driving gloves?😂
I have a Chrysler 200 s and bought a Mopar cai and it came with a heat shield I noticed an increase in HP mpg and the ten stays cool so this video is NOT ENTIRELY TRUE it depends on the application yes if you get a cheap one with no heat shield this is true but NOT FOR ALL COLD AIR INTAKES
That’s a short ram intake
They are on that car comes from the front of the grill that car already has a cold air intake
You are totally correct.
Thanks, but the best info comes from you and others of the NIA Community giving their experience.
The box itself is heating the air inside. You can escape it
Thanks for sharing it means everything to me.
But it sound way better with a CAI.
Im thinking of getting a proper intake not a cheap chinese one on my 2000 Honda Civic B Series B18 Doch vtec every vtec honda ive heard with a proper intake has made the vtec much louder lol
If so please let us know what you like and dislike about it. I appreciate you taking time to share.
@@NATESINTERACTIVEAUTO im not definitely gonna do it but ive heard they can be quite good if i buy an intake it has too be a Big one thats not a short ram intake had another b18 Honda that had a cheap Chinese filter and it burned alot of oil dunno if that damaged engine but it was 20 bucks max 🤦♂️ previous owner fitted it
But when running freeway it's cooler though
Yes, it seems that there is very little "cold air intake" happening when stopped (hood up or down). And what about days that are already 100 degrees F?!?. Then it's impossible to have the filter receiving "cold air". Maybe the question is, does "cold air" even matter?
Your cold air intake isn't going to do much if you still use the stock exhaust system, also there's a difference between cold air vs short ram intakes.
Unfortunately lot of debris gets flown in these intake, it's best to leave it as is for best performance. Manufacturer hires smart engineers, they know what they are doing.
Quiet and fuel efficient emissions isn't the same as performance
@@willborio8613 yes it is.
@@sangkang6294 no its not. Hence performance mods many won't even pass emissions. Car manufactures have standards to follow. I mean adding forced induction is great performance horrible on fuel efficiency
Then why does my air filter always get gunked up bad in one same spot with only 3000 miles on the filter?
Just cut a hole trough the hood
what about audi a6 c5 i change my front bump with the tuning one like rs it has more holes so does cold air intake worth it??
Although he may be right, this test is garbage. Who needs power when sitting at an idle? Once you get going, fresh air will blow through the engine compartment.
totally inexperience advise. when u drive u have a fresh stream of air. at max with heat shield you might save 1 degree celcius.
Cold air intake is useless on a naturally aspirated engine.
That thing sounds like shiiii boi
No sh@t
Definitely a fool. Testing airbox cabinet temperature. And without any fact uttering impractical knowledge. Cold air intake is used for excess air flow. & to position the filter as far as possible from the engine so it can be kept marginal cooler. That too without a housing so its easier for it to cool down with wind & to inhale fresher air, which has more dense particals thus makes combustion more healthy!!
That engine is trash 😂