LP Smartside Siding VS James Hardie Siding (Warranty Failed)
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- LP Smartside VS James Hardie (Warranty Failed)
James Hardie Siding VS LP Smartside Siding reviews, we just deed a simple water test on both products to see if either one would in fact absorb water. Facts are Facts on a driving rain they both can absorb water and will fail if not installed correctly. Proper siding installation is vital along with proper calking.
Witch product is better James Hardie or LP Smartside? Both are great products, but the fact is James Hardie should not be installed an any state which drops below freezing (-32) James Hardie siding will blow apart & crumble. I have it on my home in Florida… Perfect product there.
LP Smartside siding will in fact Root if it is not properly installed, no one should be ordering it prefinished. Guaranteed to fail!... It is a great product but must be face caulked sealed very well then you can spray paint the LP Smartside Siding and back brush the bottom of each panel. That underside needs 3 good heavy coats.
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The amount of anxiety I have over this potential $10K - $14K decision is only growing. I appreciate you putting a spotlight on the pitfalls of these products and how to avoid them. Getting advice and knowledge from someone who has nothing to gain is invaluable.
I appreciate the content here. Another consideration is to use a rain screen behind the siding so there is ventilation and drying and draining happening behind the siding. God bless you
Great video and thank you. I’m going with LP on my home ( at least I get 5 years and hail coverage) and seal my edges with Sherman Williams and caulk well and then maintain it like you have to do with everything in life ( like your body your car or anything else in life). You did a great job and taught we a lot and very appreciated!!
Thank you my friend!!!! Make it a great Day!
I have had Hardie on my house for 28 years and it still looks brand new. Never had any problems and it is in the wide open weather getting wind, lots of rain etc.
I had my OSB crap siding replaced in 1998 with Hardie shortly after they made available the Hardie trim so I could get the complete system. I specified the primed Hardie 12" lap board and used the only certified paint at the time ICI delux. My painter caulked everything and applied 2 coats of paint with 48 hours between coats. Nearly 26 years later with all the Houston humidity and mildew all 1500 sq ft of siding looks brand new. I pressure wash every 8 years or so and have never noticed any blisters, peeling or swelling. However squirrels love chewing on the corners of the second story. which I've fixed with a tin corner wrap.
Completely agree. I put Hardie on a shop 8 I built in 2000. Been repainted once and looks as good today as the day I installed it.
This is a really great informative video. I just installed LP siding for the first time on a section of my home. When I paint sprayed the LP siding, I stilll see open pores on the bottom edge of the siding. I don't think paint spraying is sufficient. After watching this video, I am going to make sure to fill those pores up by brushing the paint in to fill those pores
Could you please give me your opinion. Looking replacing the siding on my Cabin at Lake Tahoe. If you had to choose a siding for a snowy climate what would you pick? Thank You! Also, on the LP siding would it be best to paint both sides?
Good video,, what to get then ? Steal, aluminum?
Hello Steve, we are having a house built and are trying to decide which siding to use. I want LP and my husband wants Hardie. I want to know how Everlast Advance Composite siding stands up to these other two that you tested. Thanks Jim and Toni
Were is the home located? At this time put the Everlast on hold for we are having issues with it on a test we are doing....
What siding would you recommend in Seattle/Tacoma WA? While we are known for mild climate but we do get fair share of rain, sun, wind, and cold spells. Its hard to determine whats better suited such as steel or hardie or smartside or the advanced smartside prefinisher like Diamond Kote. Any thoughts?
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Which siding will you recommend to install in Calgary ,Alberta ,Canada?? I will like put something that will last 25 years 😊
Steel first choice then LP Smart Side Hardy Board is out
@SteveOOOOO Thanks. Hopefully in the summer we will switch. God bless!!
What's the best siding for a Lakehouse that has animals chewing on it? I have old cedar needs replacing squirrels and racoons have no problem getting in.
Excellent tutorial. You now have a new subscriber. Btw, applying H clips is a no-brainer and should be considered mandatory just as is using nails.
Our steel siding is peeling. Paint? Vinyl? Hardie Plank? LP? Middle range budget. Recommendations?
Yes this is a problem that can happen with steel siding, the good news pending the brand you can file a claim and perhaps get it repaired for free. That would be my first stem then I my self would have it corn blasted then spray 3 coats of a good primer / paint.... unless the siding is shot ... vinyl NO!! that is a less quality product. hardy and LP will need to be painted as well. I hope that helps!!!!
After watching your video, it makes me think good old-fashioned wood cedar siding might be the best product. Also, it seems back priming the Hardie and LP products might improve their durability. Of course, with any of them proper installation is critical!
James my Friend you are 100% correct on all of it. My new home will be done with cedar on the front and LP on the rest of it. Real Cedar cant be beaten. You put 3 good coats of oil stain that will last many many yrs. I think the main reason for LP/Hardie is for the maintenance free but in reality nether of them products are maintenance free at all.... "HOG WASH"
Quick update will be remaking this video in the coming days (shorter Version & to the point) then pulling it due to poor stats
Thanks for the tips.
I have a LP siding job in motion
I lean more toward LP. However everything is based on who you hire to install the product. If everything is installed correctly, and maintenance is performed, they both will last as they are built.
Which one is good to use in Texas? I have been doing research on both products but like what you said both claims they are better than the other. I need to choose pretty soon before price will go up. I Didn't expect that deciding which one to use is hard to decide.
I installed LP in Texas for over 12 years. Not that long as I am back on the East coast but have installed LP for almost 20 years (I was not a siding only installer but a general contractor) I will say this, I have never had a call back ever on LP. I hate to admit it, but my installers and painters were good, but they were not master craftsmen. FWIW, if it were my house, I would use LP.
Just ordered $19k in LP for my house and pole barn last week! LP vertical going to hang in over hydragaurd wrap on zip board
Great vid. I think having to have all the tools just to work with Hardie is annoying especially the dust. I’m NC though and that’s all they do here is Hardie. I can’t find LP. It’s so annoying.
What are better options? brick and steel /luminium?
Is LP smartside and Diamond Kote the same? I'm struggling to find information on this.
I'm looking to have siding replaced near Boise Idaho, can't decided what I should go with, vinyl, wood, diamond kote, hardie, etc. Your video helped with reviewing the warranty info; now that was insightful.
Sorry for the delay, Same product different finish.... I would recommend ordering the LP RAW then use a high end paint 2-3 good coats back brush it get under the lap good and the product will last for many yrs
After the test it appears the LP Smartside siding is the better of the 2 what is your thoughts?
I appreciate your efforts to give advice on siding. You brought up points regarding proper maintenance and install that makes a difference. I am not familiar with Hardy Board so I will avoid commenting on them. LP Smart is not OSB. It is classified as an engineered wood. I wish you would have mentioned the scientific testing done from both companies. Soaking in water doesn't seem a way to go. A better choice of paint would have been Sherwin Williams Resilience . Customer can order none-paint products. You gave very little info on the final choice.
Richard thank you my friend, me sticking the product in water only proves the inevitable the fact is siding will absorb water and it will root in time the point of the bucket just speeding up the process you are right smartside is engineered wood but then again OSB was engineered as well they're very similar outside of the treatment process that LP does. Ask for Sherwin-Williams paint? (Note: I love Sherwin Williams Paint) I frankly don't care what paint one uses the moisture soaks in from the lower lap side when it wicks so rather factory painted or not that too fails if you paint it after the install and caulk everything before paint you will have a much better product in the end and YES LP Agrees with me on that point.... Have A great Day!
So, what is the best type of siding to install on our new construction project? Vinyl and steel seem to be the better choice, and at lower cost.
Pending your location, Steel will be the better of the 2...
Steel look for 28G new con should be around 5-700 install and vinyl dont use anything under a .046 panel that will round around 300-500 sq. installed if you go with vinyl check on the cost of the computer cut backer or even look at polar wall. I no you don't need the R-Value but the back makes vinyl 300 stronger.
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Bob Hope this was somewhat helpful
Have A Great Day!
SteveOOO
Steel/ Aluminum siding is a great way to go
Just a small point. Not sure if LP changed their warranty since you made this video, but it currently states that the yearly reduction in coverage is 2.2% not 4.5%
I live in Arlington Tx. Waterfront property, so there is a lot of moisture. My contractor is recommending LP or Hardie. Im thinking Cedar is best after watching this. Even when it dont rain, everything is damp in the morning. Would you agree with cedar being the better option?
Well this is your home so do Cedar and put 3 coats of a good oil stain from sherwin williams or hirshfield's that will last nicely. 2nd option would be hardie. Like you I love real Cedar and nothing is maintenance free!!!! JMO Make It A Great Day!
Its only as good as the finish you keep on it . Installed properly with a rain screen and flashed with proper caulking they are the same other than the burn rate.
I would like to know how you prove how big hail is.
Steve we will be located in southeastern Tennessee. We will put the siding on hold for now. Thanks Toni
What I find that saves any kind of siding is a lot of paint. I like Hardie for fire safety but I hate the dust and LP is a lot easier to cut but it doesn't stand up to fire. But either one if you don't paint you are going to loose the material.
You show a slide about Everlast but didn’t talk about it? How does it compare?
There was talk about discontinuing that product, I will be doing a updated video on siding product options this summer.
what do I do after the 30 years ? I am 76...
I plan to replace some rotted siding panel on my 2nd floor, I am still debating whether to use LP or Hardie 4X8 panel. Hardie is a lot heavier which I can’t do it by myself, LP is lighter and I can mange it on my own. Painting the panel on all sides is a must to prevent any water damage.
First thing is if the home is an a frizzing climate then use LP. out side of that use what ever you want just make sure you hand paint the edges well. or with in 4-7 yrs both panels will let you down. Make it a great Day! TY
LP is crap; is is OSB. I've done hundreds of homes in Harbor with no issues.
FerrariDan, your entitled to your 2 cents... and the same can be said about hardi board. Like I stated If I lived in a state that did not freeze then use hardi if you live in a state that freezes DO NOT USE HARDI! Hard Fails in Minnesota and even a lot of our suppliers are now dropping it. As long as the LP is hand panted and all pours are sealed you will not have a issue. Got termites then go Hardi both products are good and bad just don't plane on a filling a claim after 5 yrs you lose. Again nothing is maintenance free!!!
If daytime highs in February are usually 43°F to 50°F, but on rare occasions not above 32°F, should I avoid using Hardie because low temperatures often drop below 32°F, usually 30-35°F but rarely below 18°F?
You're exactly right! If you paint the edges and backs of L.P. smartside, it'll last the 50 years!!!! Of course, painting your house 3, or maybe 4 times during those 50 years is a normal thing to do!!!!!!
100% agree I dont understand why we want the look of real wood but not the maintenance hummm them 2 dont work.. it rotted or it frozen then split so now junk... I just shake my head, Concrete waters Freezing dont mix! / Wood no painting humm yup dont mix.. Go buy vinyl or steel then and its way cheaper.
So so true.. paint it all with high quality paint (e.g Sherwin Williams. Duration/Emerals) and proper prep (e.g. powerwashing and reprime where necessary) when both painting for the first time and thereafter
My sister-in-law is building a house right now with LP Smart Siding. She keeps talking about how it will last 50 years with no maintenance. Consumers have unrealistic expectations.
GREAT VIDEO! Have builder paint LP on site instead of prefinished? Does it come 25' length? Hoping to capture money from paint budget!
When did Hardie start putting a paper backing on their product. That looked exactly like a piece of drywall.
Do you actually install Everlast? That was my first choice, but the limited amount of resources that they provide about their system have led me to reconsider. The J channel with 1/4-1/2 inch gap required makes room for driving rain to intrude behind the siding. They also state that It is not a fully waterproof barrier for that reason, but that the edges should NOT be caulked like you would with LP or Hardie, which is a major red flag for me.
Don't confuse cladding with a WRB (Weather resistant barrier). Everlast, Hardie, or Smartside are all claddings. You still need a WRB behind all products like Tyvek, Zip system, or a peel and stock WRB.
@@Notch8 Understood, but you’re still nailing thousands of nails through your wrb to install your cladding. At least Hardie and LP are systems that are sealed with caulk and flashing. Vinyl and other j channel systems are designed in such a way that water has both other choice but to get behind them around windows, especially during driving rains.
Factory paint on LP isn't the only problem, at my HD about 50% of the LP siding is already damaged . Apparently their primer doesn't bond well because it's always chipped/peeled off while it's on the shelf, lots have damage to the bare OSB side too. A lot of contractors are probably buying and using those damaged pieces thinking it will be just fine.
O MY WORD... Thank you this was news to me did they stand behind it? Thank you for joining us and letting others no about it.
@@letsdiymyhome I haven't contacted LP about it, I just see damaged LP planks at HD all the time. The Hardie isn't damaged even though it's heavier and brittle, so apparently their primer/coating on LP is very fragile.
LP doesn’t let anything but grade A product leave the plant. These must be getting damaged elsewhere along their path to HD
Im sorry to say my friend BS.... thats from a builder if your from the plaint and want to talk we sure can... I can prove all day long with out proper sealing and hand brushing paint on the laps and edging it will fail.
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Everlast siding is a great product, but $$$$. I do wish they'd have more trim options.
Love this video!!!!!! Your the man
I disapprove of your choice of duct tape for your first aid situation. I personally prefer electrical tape. Great video though. Every other video on TH-cam seems to be an advertisement for Hardi or LP.
disapprove of your choice of duct tape for your first aid situation. OK you lost me on that comment. There you are correct allot of people are in fact promoting one or the other as the best product witch in fact miss leads everyone.
OMG... Way to funny that dang Hardie board got me... took a bit to catch on good eye
That’s a great video!!
I tend to trust people with duct tape bandages
I like this test. Thank you for this video.
I was wanting to install a 4 x8 smart board on a small rental its all a mind fuck
I’m building a one level 1380 sq ft house and that’s what I’m siding it with. Sure beats the hell out of vinyl
A true professional would use electrical tape on that thumb!
OMG... Way to funny that dang Hardie board got me...
Non-Finger Joined clear Cedar is the ONLY SIDING that lasts FOREVER, PERIOD. Hardie is Bad....LP is way WORSE !!! I've been a carpenter for 42 years. These are the facts people.
Hardie Baird will disintegrate if you don’t keep water out
I will not use either product.