6 months ownership of a Lightning XLT. 8k miles. So much cheaper it’s ridiculous. Most of my driving is within a 10 mile radius. But constantly on the go. 14.2 average MPG on my 2020 Lariat 3.5 Ecoboost for the same driving. This thing only needs charging every third or fourth day. To 90 percent too. My average is 2.1 miles per kWh. No more $70 oil changes. Never mind the $700 30k mile service on my Ecoboost.
@@branleesan on average a Lightning will save $11k in fuel savings compared to the hybrid. $14k fuel savings vs an average non-hybrid Ram, Silverado or F150. Over 5 years. The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100K. That’s JUST fuel. I’ll take all the savings and trade it in before 8/100k.
@@branleesan Ford made the F150 lightning with the truck buyer in mind… When a cell pack goes bad in the battery, it can be taken apart and replaced. It’s not like the Tesla where they’re all glued together.
Battery will only get cheaper, it will at least last you 8 years or claim the warranty. Now in 8 years tech will not be the same. Why do people freak out about replacing the battery?
Don't worry about using the Pro Power, that battery is huge so unless you are running a big compressor and other stuff for 20 hours straight, you aren't going to run out of power.
Electricity in Ontario is 7.4 cents evenings and our gas is equivalent to $7/ US gal. My cost to drive my Lightening XT is 1/15 of my gas F150. Super savings
What does "at least" level 2 charging for your house mean? There is no level 3/DC fast charging available for residential. Love that these truck dudes like the Lightning.
I checked a PRo with the ER option last week. Shame I could NOT fit in the front seat. TOO TALL! The XLT had the ability to lower the seat. Pro was a nice unit otherwise.
I was so interested in the Pro at $41k when it came out. Ford blew it. They can do whatever they want with the price, but I’m a hard no with a 50% price increase year over year. Y’all are great. Keep up the great vids.
You ARE saving the planet, but more important, you're having a LOT of fun, , saving money and there is virtually NO maintenance. It's a win/win for everyone !! Except the oil companies.
You can’t get the pro with extended range now, forcing you to go to nearly 70k for extended range at the xlt level. Good going ford. Hard pass for most
If they got rid of the powered up and down part of the frunk and that stupid center console it would be about perfect. And put the lfp battery’s in it but they’re already planning that
Are you sure that's an Extended Range? 176 miles at 75-80% doesn't seem right for an extended range. And how are you figuring efficiency? Cost? Energy used? Where you're charing makes a HUGE difference. I charge my EV at home at $.11/kW whereas public DC fast chargers are roughly 4x that. Even at 1.6 miles/kWh, you're looking at $1.10 for every 16 miles driving. At today's national average gas price ($3.601 according to AAA), that's roughly the equivalent to 52 MPGe. Even more if your average is 2.1 miles/kWh. That's WAY more cost efficient per mile than gas.
Like to your more real world opinions/reviews! Too bad the pricing on the Lightening Pro has went from mostly affordable to not a work truck price. It is also just disappointing that when towing your range gets cut in half or less. Yes, I know in some ways that is just expected because that also happens in most ICE pickups. For a work truck or farm truck, it is almost unpractical. I think for those reasons the hybrid F150 is the much more practical option, except for the pricing on it.
Why is it not practical for a farm? You charge it with Solar. How big is your farm the size of Montana? For a normal farm it is perfect. You can power tools etc with it etc.
Your miles per kwh seems REALLY low.... perhaps with your lead foot driving? lol. Other reviewers are claiming 2 to 2.5 miles per kwh and getting 240 miles on standard range test... Great review otherwise.
We do indeed have a lead foot, we like to test these things. That said, we did try to a few hyper mile runs and just couldn't get great numbers out of it. It could be this particular unit.
@@SlavGuns I am getting 2.4 KW rolling at about 70 mph using single pedal mode which seems to be more efficient about giving braking power back to the batterly. If I roll about 60 mph on the highway I am getting about 2.5.
Yeah they sold about 4 thousand of these it was a huge flop and I'm glad you gave it a honest horrible review because it's basically discontinued. BTW Honda says they have given up on EV all together, the Japanese are smart this truck is not a smart truck.
@paulavenoso899 Toyota has drastically scaled back all efforts. Yes, Bill Gates owns a farm or two, but we know he is not intelligent enough to be a farmer. Automobile travel is an extension of air travel. Until the EV aircraft is perfected, the EV pick-up truck won't be practical, nor any working class, one vehicle family hauler. A working class 40K vehicle now costs 65K due to hyperinflation that's not acceptable to begin with. EV cars are like iPhones are disposable, and so are EV cars. Just the battery's and the wiring harness OBT2 port and computer is basically all if not half the value of the Hybrid, and that's unexpected by the working class. Hybrid aircraft has to get better first, or hybrid cars are useless to the working class. Take your 40 thousand dollar wiring harness and shove it. Nissan is getting around the EPA by selling half of the Pathfinder sales and profits to the CCP in Wuhan China. So now we are cheering the communist for fighting the EPA, what bizarre times we live in.
The dealers can't keep the Pro's on the lot. They are selling like pancakes now in 2024. IMO Ford cut production to raise prices as this truck is so cheap to produce. As far as a smart truck. Best truck I have every owned in 40 years.
So love all the cost savings and efficiency but just saying it felt pretty sweet to smoke a $100K Ram 1500 TRX at the light with my $50K Ford Lighting. Sport mode ROCKs.
They just opened up ordering for the PRO (for those that did the $100 early sign up) starting at $50k. I'm very excited for mine to get here! The one thing that I wish it had from the higher trims is actually the center console that flips into a table. I'm going to be seeing if there is an after market option. Your excitement got me even more excited!
Your “mileage” discussion seems a little flawed when you think about costs (regardless of if you want to travel cross country or 99% of your driving is nearby). If you can get 240 miles from the standard battery (we’ll round to 100 kWh battery for ease instead of 98), and the price of electricity is 13c/kWh (Utah), that’s roughly $13 to “fill it up”. Crazy cheap! At about $4/gal by me for the cheap stuff, at, say 20 mpg, that’s $48 to “fill up” to 240 miles worth of range- almost 4x more! The costs to drive EVs can be extraordinarily cheaper. I’m very excited about this truck and the extra daily utility I can get from it, along with the cost savings! 👍
6 months ownership of a Lightning XLT. 8k miles. So much cheaper it’s ridiculous. Most of my driving is within a 10 mile radius. But constantly on the go. 14.2 average MPG on my 2020 Lariat 3.5 Ecoboost for the same driving. This thing only needs charging every third or fourth day. To 90 percent too. My average is 2.1 miles per kWh. No more $70 oil changes. Never mind the $700 30k mile service on my Ecoboost.
Wait until you have to replace the battery
@@branleesan on average a Lightning will save $11k in fuel savings compared to the hybrid. $14k fuel savings vs an average non-hybrid Ram, Silverado or F150. Over 5 years. The battery is warranted for 8 years or 100K. That’s JUST fuel. I’ll take all the savings and trade it in before 8/100k.
@@branleesan Ford made the F150 lightning with the truck buyer in mind… When a cell pack goes bad in the battery, it can be taken apart and replaced. It’s not like the Tesla where they’re all glued together.
Battery will only get cheaper, it will at least last you 8 years or claim the warranty. Now in 8 years tech will not be the same. Why do people freak out about replacing the battery?
A gallon of gas is worth 33.7 kwh. So 1.6 x 33.7 is just inder 54 mpge.
Don't worry about using the Pro Power, that battery is huge so unless you are running a big compressor and other stuff for 20 hours straight, you aren't going to run out of power.
Electricity in Ontario is 7.4 cents evenings and our gas is equivalent to $7/ US gal. My cost to drive my Lightening XT is 1/15 of my gas F150. Super savings
Great video!
I’ve had my Platinum for a month and LOVE it!! I think this is my fave car so far.
I have ZERO 0 NOTTA. Interest in a EV AV Anxiety Vehicle. Especially a truck with a 100 range pulling a Trailer.
Great channel! I'd probably watch it even if I didn't have Ford Lightning. Funny and entertaining. Keep itt up!
What does "at least" level 2 charging for your house mean? There is no level 3/DC fast charging available for residential. Love that these truck dudes like the Lightning.
Dryer or stove receptacle.....$50 for the receptacle, wire and 50 amp breaker at Lowes.
I checked a PRo with the ER option last week. Shame I could NOT fit in the front seat. TOO TALL! The XLT had the ability to lower the seat. Pro was a nice unit otherwise.
I was so interested in the Pro at $41k when it came out. Ford blew it. They can do whatever they want with the price, but I’m a hard no with a 50% price increase year over year. Y’all are great. Keep up the great vids.
I do not understand how you get a big battery in the pro. I thought that the only way to do that you need to do a fleet buy?
You have to buy 5 or more to get the extended version
I have a f150 lightning and gets 2.8-3.2 miles per KW and i dont drive slow.
18'' wheels are reason for lower mileage and better ride quality in this review, or hot weather maybe?
@@iirdna Smaller wheels get better mileage AND ride quality.
Ditto.
You ARE saving the planet, but more important, you're having a LOT of fun, , saving money and there is virtually NO maintenance. It's a win/win for everyone !! Except the oil companies.
You can’t get the pro with extended range now, forcing you to go to nearly 70k for extended range at the xlt level. Good going ford. Hard pass for most
If they got rid of the powered up and down part of the frunk and that stupid center console it would be about perfect. And put the lfp battery’s in it but they’re already planning that
I have a Lightning. I couldn’t agree more with eliminating the stupid, slow powered frunk cover. Hate that stupid powered thing. Temperamental
@@paulavenoso899 and the beeping. Or can you turn that off?
@@jakecease someone posted a video how to discount it. Otherwise there is no on/off unfortunately
Would love to buy a pro but can’t find anywhere
Are you sure that's an Extended Range? 176 miles at 75-80% doesn't seem right for an extended range.
And how are you figuring efficiency? Cost? Energy used? Where you're charing makes a HUGE difference. I charge my EV at home at $.11/kW whereas public DC fast chargers are roughly 4x that. Even at 1.6 miles/kWh, you're looking at $1.10 for every 16 miles driving. At today's national average gas price ($3.601 according to AAA), that's roughly the equivalent to 52 MPGe. Even more if your average is 2.1 miles/kWh. That's WAY more cost efficient per mile than gas.
Like to your more real world opinions/reviews! Too bad the pricing on the Lightening Pro has went from mostly affordable to not a work truck price. It is also just disappointing that when towing your range gets cut in half or less. Yes, I know in some ways that is just expected because that also happens in most ICE pickups. For a work truck or farm truck, it is almost unpractical. I think for those reasons the hybrid F150 is the much more practical option, except for the pricing on it.
Why is it not practical for a farm? You charge it with Solar. How big is your farm the size of Montana? For a normal farm it is perfect. You can power tools etc with it etc.
Maybe.
Interesting
Nice video but I’d love them to improve and clear their speaking...
Thanks, we appreciate you watching. Improve in what ways?
@@TexasTruckChannelno offense at all, you guys speak so fast and gets difficult to follow the flow of the video. Regards!
Ram absolutley does have a flat floor in the back of the crew cab.
Your miles per kwh seems REALLY low.... perhaps with your lead foot driving? lol. Other reviewers are claiming 2 to 2.5 miles per kwh and getting 240 miles on standard range test... Great review otherwise.
We do indeed have a lead foot, we like to test these things. That said, we did try to a few hyper mile runs and just couldn't get great numbers out of it. It could be this particular unit.
@@TexasTruckChannel really interesting. What’s the best you got?
@@SlavGuns I am getting 2.4 KW rolling at about 70 mph using single pedal mode which seems to be more efficient about giving braking power back to the batterly. If I roll about 60 mph on the highway I am getting about 2.5.
So hard to understand, you talk too fast !
Buy a Chevy if you don't want to be the the repair shop twice a year
🤣🤣🤣 Garbage Motors 🗑
Yeah they sold about 4 thousand of these it was a huge flop and I'm glad you gave it a honest horrible review because it's basically discontinued.
BTW Honda says they have given up on EV all together, the Japanese are smart this truck is not a smart truck.
Honda has an EV SUV coming out in 2024….
Toyota has the BZ4X. Nissan has the Ariya SUV EV. Mitsubishi has an EV SUV too I believe.
@paulavenoso899 Toyota has drastically scaled back all efforts. Yes, Bill Gates owns a farm or two, but we know he is not intelligent enough to be a farmer. Automobile travel is an extension of air travel. Until the EV aircraft is perfected, the EV pick-up truck won't be practical, nor any working class, one vehicle family hauler. A working class 40K vehicle now costs 65K due to hyperinflation that's not acceptable to begin with. EV cars are like iPhones are disposable, and so are EV cars. Just the battery's and the wiring harness OBT2 port and computer is basically all if not half the value of the Hybrid, and that's unexpected by the working class. Hybrid aircraft has to get better first, or hybrid cars are useless to the working class. Take your 40 thousand dollar wiring harness and shove it.
Nissan is getting around the EPA by selling half of the Pathfinder sales and profits to the CCP in Wuhan China. So now we are cheering the communist for fighting the EPA, what bizarre times we live in.
The dealers can't keep the Pro's on the lot. They are selling like pancakes now in 2024. IMO Ford cut production to raise prices as this truck is so cheap to produce. As far as a smart truck. Best truck I have every owned in 40 years.
@@aristides1918 😆 really, u funny guy.
Nice grill 🔥🏕️
So love all the cost savings and efficiency but just saying it felt pretty sweet to smoke a $100K Ram 1500 TRX at the light with my $50K Ford Lighting. Sport mode ROCKs.
They just opened up ordering for the PRO (for those that did the $100 early sign up) starting at $50k. I'm very excited for mine to get here! The one thing that I wish it had from the higher trims is actually the center console that flips into a table. I'm going to be seeing if there is an after market option. Your excitement got me even more excited!
How it went for you on your order?
Fixing to pull the trigger on a lightning
Do t know if get pro or xlt
@@juvmol All good! Got it in November, was $53,000 out the door for the PRO with bed liner. Not including the $7500 tax credit.
NO, You are not saving the world. But the Lighting is a great truck!!!
Your “mileage” discussion seems a little flawed when you think about costs (regardless of if you want to travel cross country or 99% of your driving is nearby). If you can get 240 miles from the standard battery (we’ll round to 100 kWh battery for ease instead of 98), and the price of electricity is 13c/kWh (Utah), that’s roughly $13 to “fill it up”. Crazy cheap! At about $4/gal by me for the cheap stuff, at, say 20 mpg, that’s $48 to “fill up” to 240 miles worth of range- almost 4x more! The costs to drive EVs can be extraordinarily cheaper. I’m very excited about this truck and the extra daily utility I can get from it, along with the cost savings! 👍
Thank you, I thought the same thing.
And that alone maid me look heavy on the truck !!!
I have ZERO 0 NOTTA. Interest in a EV AV Anxiety Vehicle. Especially a truck with a 100 range pulling a Trailer.
Y u here?