F-150 Lightning Team Finish The Coast To Coast Road Trip After Running Out Of Charge In Arizona!
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In a bonus feature from Out of Spec's coast to coast adventure, Dave, Jordan, and Andreas share how they got their Ford F-150 Lightning towed after dying suddenly in the middle of Arizona to a charger and completed their journey to San Diego. Enjoy!
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Team Food will always be the real winners❤ 😂
Good one. 😂
My first car was a 1990 Ford Taurus with an unreliable fuel gauge. This video is making me nostalgic for that old POS. Good to see Ford carrying on with the tradition into the EV era.
lol 😂
The 1986-87 Ford LTD Crown Victoria was called the Ford POS, as seen in the original Men in Black movie.
The vehicle should be engineered to handle a few days and a dozen or more fast charging sessions without a rest cycle. I took a solo road trip in my Rivian R1S and would frequently camp in the vehicle with HVAC.
I just finished a 7,741 mile road trip DC fast charging it the whole time in my Ford Lightning and had no issue.
I think the Ford team agrees. Kyle said elsewhere that they talked to the Ford engineers after this and they were eager to learn about the behavior and make changes based on the feedback.
the spinoff we've all been waiting for
I want to thank you 🙏 guys for the video content it just reinforces my thinking on why I will never 👎 buy an electric ⚡️ vehicle!!
“Ford later confirmed it was bms bc of charging” but come on the other trucks all drained and charged and did the same road trip. I love the lightening but that’s a ford problem not u problem. No other truck went from 13% to dead instantly.
FORD where the best fix is not fixing the problem. Or a drain hose on top the engine block.
@@danharold3087 could you translate that into English?
I want to make the switch to EV but drive a lot for work. Just curious but what’s the best bang for your buck EV wise and what does EV look like in everyday use? Are there things you wish you knew before making the switch?
The thing is even if it shouldn’t do it . Dave and Kyle had the same problem on the previous trip so you would think they wouldn’t go below 20 miles. It’s on Dave. He was 300 miles behind the leaders so they weren’t winning so why push it?
I will give Ford credit for acknowledging and giving an explanation for the truck issues but you are 100% correct OP.
When it comes to charging the Ford has the flattest curve with the weakest peak, presumably a trade off to provide the most reliability. To also be the least reliable down low, unacceptable. I imagine the next gen Lightning will be far better.
It would be great if OOS did a short video on how to get the truck into tow mode. I’ll offer to help.
The 37:39 min mark. Almost brings me to tears. I know very well how it is to have adult children and how you worry about them all you life. Dave, you sure have all the reasons to be proud of your son!
Love you Dave you’re a great Dad
*Found On Road Dead* still rings true
🤣 I knew I’d see this comment.
Found on Road Discharged
So much for you guys to learn and pass on. There are many variables!
Dave won't be able to look Tom Moloughney in the eye for quite some time after this, if ever.
Don't have time to watch the video yet. What happened?
I didn't see any direct reference to him in the video. The only thing I can think of is Tom owns an F-150 lightning. He uses it often in his TH-cam channel called State of Charge.
@@LordTimelord During the early stages of the race Dave called Tom for some advice. Tom told Dave he had better not let the F-150 community down.
@@TheJazzper1970 oh I remember that conversation in the video. I just didn't know who he was talking to! LOL
New drinking game: take a shot every time Dave says “I don’t know if it’s this particular truck or if it’s all Lightnings.”
*everyone is hammered five minutes into the video*
been waiting for this!
Love the video thumbnail!! 😂😅
Yeah Food Team!
Thumbnail: Peak!
If the any other truck, given the same roadtrip, would have died in the same way ... then it's not just that one truck. "It's just the one truck we roadtripped" isn't how that works.
Hopefully ford fixes this, and makes the update available. But no, it's not "just that one truck"
I charge at Dateland when I go back and forth from San Diego. In AZ I don't like to go under 20% across the desert because of getting stranded for hours in the 120° weather we can get.
Sad to think about the supercharger team that made that beautiful site possible gone!
Hopefully they will be taken up by a company that has charging as its raison d'etre. Which we need one of those badly anyway. Hopefully theres enough people left in the office to type in "unlock GM".
2 thoughts. One, did each team record the total number of chargers made? as if the Ford did trip with the fewest then it's a win of sorts? Second, full marks for all the teams doing it non-stop, however I'd be happy that if included a mandatory overnight stop of say min 6 hrs as the videos showed 4 very tired teams which means the overall result is also part-endurance not the actual machines. Looking forward to future road trips, can't wait!
12:22 The voltage curve for Li batteries is not a linear function. If you saw the actual curve for ALL Li batteries it would scare the crap out of you to trust measurement tools and software with a high degree of accuracy. This is a software fix. The batteries are being normal Li batteries.
It’s a Ford. My dad bought a 2020 F-150. Not even the EV. Full on gas. A month after having it he had to go back to the dealership with complaints. Few months later the stop\start function ruined the battery and he had to get a new battery. He finally managed to get it to not have problems and it is now cooperating for the most part. They don’t call it Found On Road Dead for nothing. I wouldn’t take any Ford for free 🤷🏼♀️
It looks like you’re using Torque Pro. I’m curious about the dongle you have because the ones I have are not good.
I've owned a 2022 Lightning Lariat ER for 2 yrs and 48k miles. I've never had this issue and I've been down to single digit SOC a lot without issues.
I assume my BMS is pretty calibrated to me and seems accurate at lower SOCs. Obviously an issue specific to this truck.
How did you get that cellphone display of battery status?
Shaking my head.
Wow
What's the rule with LEOs and taking a nap while recharging? Are Tesla stations private property?
Does it cost money to charge the ev at a charge station?
For Ford to say this happened from extreme road tripping is pure BS! I own a lightning and have been down to 8 to 12 miles a few times without problems. So the drivers and the problem truck made you guys come in last!
I want to make the switch to EV but drive a lot for work. Just curious but what’s the best bang for your buck EV wise and what does EV look like in everyday use? Are there things you wish you knew before making the switch?
If you can find a new Chevy Bolt at under $28K with federal tax credit taking net price down to $20K, hard to beat on value!
@@jdlutz1965 Thank you I’ll check them out.
What is your use case? Choosing an EV is not like getting a gas car. There are a lot of variables. You need to carefully research models regarding rate of charge, battery size, efficiency, etc. to determine what works for you. If you drive a lot, you may need more range and/or good charging. For example, the Bolt slow charges and may not work for you if you need to charge quickly during the day. Then there is home charging. Do you have that ability? If not, you definitely need faster charging if you will be dependent on public charging. So, you have to educate yourself. There are no one size fits all tips.
@@loriallen67 Thank you for that 😊 I am definitely researching the different types out right now. You have given me a few more things to look at when researching. Thank you again.
We’ve had EVs for 10 years. Having Level 2 charging at home is KEY. We save 90% compared to a gas car charging at home.
For local commuting and charging at home go with a Leaf Plus, Bolt, Kona or Niro.
If you road trip and need to fast charge a lot, Tesla Model 3, Tesla Model Y are by far the best. They have thousands of reliable stations and the car calculates all stops flawlessly.
At the moment I would not reccomend any other cars. Ford, Rivian and others all have their issues and can’t be recommended at the time.
Hilarious thumbnail
dave did you close the chargerport door when in airzona at the tesla station
Keep being a Tesla Infomercial boys, these videos will be hilarious in a couple of years. I'll be back in the comments section in a few years. Oh wait, this video already aged badly LOL.
This kind of failure seems to indicate that there’s a cell problem.
you guys were awesome and still are my hero's
Whats this help me go poop easy ??😂😂😂😂
*BUILT FORD TOU*
At 0:19 you said you dropped from 13% to zero, but that’s incorrect. You dropped from 13 miles to zero. I could get if that statement was at 2 am after thousands of miles, but this is a voiceover. You need to correct that.
You are 100% correct Apologies!
It was 6-7% SoC, so not far off. But you are correct, misspeak under pressure. Still not an ideal scenario, but this is why we test and push things.
@@Jordan_Schieferthe voiceover wasn’t ‘under pressure’. Did you see the 6 or 7%? It said you were sleeping when it stopped.
Yes, please update the voice over. There is a vast world of difference between going from 13% to 0% SOC than from 13 miles on the Guess O’ Meter to nothing. Neither is ideal but one is clearly a much bigger failure of the vehicle than the other.
@@ericroe yes we have video proof that it was about 6%, and unfortunately voiceover cannot be changed once the video is live. But we have ample coverage explaining everything across our videos and podcasts.
I try to never go below 20%.
Thank You for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 ✌ ☮ ❤ 🕊
Save the planet, stop spaying lawns with bee and bird killer just so people can have the prettiest lawn in the neighborhood. All that crap ends up in our beautiful lakes and streams. There is more to saving the environment than driving a tiny little EV.
The Wife’s about to give birth , your on the way to the hospital , 13% range , 5 miles to go , and now you wait for the tow truck , Wonderful ?
Gas tanks on empty and 5 miles to go….
@@paulo123- can of gas in the box ,
And it only took them one year
LMAO. Even if you're driving a gas vehicle and your gas gauge says 5 miles of range, you would be stupid to keep driving. The problem is not the truck. It's the driver's that didn't fuel up enough to get to the next fueling station. People are quick to comparison beat up on the Ford Lightning. But they fail to mention that it costs 20-40k less than the others.
So ford made a truck that may not be able to handle a cross-country drive? Would charging to a fully balanced 100% on AC have re-learned the BMS?
You’d probably have to do a few 100-0’s and even then it’s probably buggy
the battery can't handle long distance, you would have to charge at ~20% every time
I think the issue was probably running nonstop rather than just going coast to coast.
If they had stayed the night at least 1 once I think BMS would have “reset” but cannonball run probably not the best vehicle.
God that Tesla god praying is getting old. The Tesla god has dropped you mate. Wake up.
I don't think "look at the infrastructure that exists being better" is "Tesla praying". OoS hasn't exactly bowed down to the cybertruck for instance
I would be pissed if my f150 ran out of gas with 13 miles left till empty. I believe Ford is fudging the on dash readout to claim more range than in reality they have. Every Ice car I have ever had drove after it said 0 miles to empty. I have 4 fords in my garage now. I like Ford but not their excuses
Triple A , run out of gas , they bring you some , you drive an electric vehicle , what’s a flatbed tow truck cost ? Triple A is a bargain , people who drive electric , they belong to AA , and NA , I’m guessing
The Lucid Air Sapphire edition , $250K , was in the Car & Driver shootout 2 months ago , 4.1 mile track , wide open , 4 laps and the battery is Dead ! 1 lap , the motors get so hot they need cool down time , 16.4 miles , Wide Open , for $250K , that’s Funny !
Thanks to towing running at gas to tow this battery junk 😂😅😂
I once lived in a remote area and the hospital was 1 he 20 min away and up north it was very cold an EV would not work in 30 below which isn’t uncommon in AK and Yukon
These things need to be tested in 30 below and 108 f this testing should have been done in the beginning not after wasting billions
Just weeks after this video speaking in tongues about how great that Arizona station was you were making excuses for Elmo and his decision to fire every single person who designed and built that very station. You're in a cult and praising the leader.
My neighbor has a ford Mach-e its not a bad looking car inside looks cluttered but nice. She says it costs about $70 a month to keep it charged up at home on her power bill. My M3P has made about zero difference in my power bill somehow and ive got 52K miles on it with zero maintenance (its a 2021 Q2) looks like I made the right choice . I need to ask her how many miles she has on it now and how many times it's been back to ford. Tesla just puts in the infrastructure and has the data to design and build better cars its not really fords fault other than just like the other manufacturers they should have started earlier. If you go from that logic though GM should have so much more data.. Their short sighted skewed logic had them kill the original mass produced EV. Now they are stuck to just cramming as many batteries in a vehicle they can and building a couple 100 a month.
I have a Bolt and it added about $30 a month to my bill (which would have been $90/mo in my Acccord), I drive about 800 mi/mo. Really slops my hogs that GM had the EV-1 and it took them 10 years to parley that into the Volt (which was an AMAZING machine, at least the 2g was) and then still nothing. Then the Bolt 6 years later. Either crap or get off the pot! Now they have gotten rid of all the inexpensive EVs and are loading up on fancy ones; that really dont do anything better than the Bolt, even their charging speed is only 3x the Bolt.
@@natehill8069 they let the Bolt and Volt wither away, then got rid of them, short sighted decisions
@@danielzhang1916 I dont know if thats what happened. I think that as much as people who have owned those cars seem to anecdotally liked them , they weren't strong sellers I dont think. I dont remember seeing much advertising or hearing about many of them being out there, Im sure that was by design. I got from all this that they were merely compliance vehicles and GM was really just hoping Tesla failed so they could go back to building just money printing ICE cars.
There is no way 2400 from east to west I've done it dozens of times closer to 3000 and sometimes more
You mean food not charge.
48 Tesla superchargers, every single one of them with a cable that's too short to be used by the general public because tesla doesn't think into the future.
Nah, it’s called malicious compliance
To be fair, at the time those super chargers were built and installed, I think that Tesla still wasn’t interested in opening their network.
And that's why Elon fired them
All those car companies placing their charge port in a position in which it will be difficult the charge on the largest and best network. Seems like they are the ones not forward-looking enough. Too bad China can't sell in the US or they'd be toast.
Isn't Tesla like at least a decade AHEAD of the competition?
You just sold 1000 new ice trucks
Let me guess took six months to a year, forget electric vehicles biggest scam there is
hahahaha. 2 days. 🙃
Fair enough that an EV may not be the best vehicle for you but calling them a scam because YOU personally don’t like them is simply hyperbole. As though no gas vehicle in the history of mankind has ever broken down on the highway unexpectedly due to a failure of one of the literally tens of thousands of parts contained within them. Over the last year and a half I’ve road tripped my EV 100s of miles in to the middle of nowhere in Vermont, New York, and Maine with no issue because I don’t run my SOC down below 15 to 20% before charging up on a road trip. Anyone with significant experience driving an EV knows to take the range estimate with a grain of salt the same way you would the range estimate in a gas vehicle.
The only thing with a battery is a woman toy
You guys were asking for it
The real problem was not owning the truck. When you actually own something, you care about not destroying it by pushing it to its limits all the time. Charging super fast and then draining it to very near zero, over and over as fast as you can, is not something that actual vehicle owners do. Just jackasses in fake races/competitions, thrashing a vehicle provided by the manufacturer.
All of these videos only address fast, long road trips, the least common use of an EV, and the least appropriate use of a pickup truck. They're poking way at the fringes of weaknesses in what the vehicle could do. About as useful as racing fleets of hybrid commuter cars on Jeep trails, then complaining when a Prius gets stuck in sand or scrapes an air dam or slightly crunches a rocker panel while rock crawling.
As for EV pickups, that amount of battery could make 3 EV passenger cars getting 2x or 3x the miles per kWh. So, while I'm not opposed to them per se, it's just turning a gas guzzler into an electricity guzzler hogging the battery supply chain 3x as much as an EV car does.
I think the cybertruck is Kyles own Truck and its arguably the one that got abused the most
I think there's value in having videos covering EV roadtrips; even though the vast majority of EV driving is just in-town trips charging at home, people still need to know what to expect when they do take their car out on a bigger trip for the first time.
That said, there are numerous different types of road trips, and I feel like trying to cannonball 2,000 miles across the is one of the least realistic. I feel like a more normal road trip follows the pattern of drive 200 miles, stay somewhere for a few days while driving shorter, local trips from there, then drive 200 miles back home. For trips like these, the charging speed of the vehicle actually tends to not matter that much, with the availability and reliability of charging at the destination being much more important, and even level 1 charging at wherever you happen to be staying overnight making a huge difference.
I would like to see more videos covering these sorts of trips - especially when the destination is somewhere in a rural area with limited charging options. Would be much more instructive than 2,000 truck races, although probably wouldn't generate nearly as many views and ad revenue for the channel.
True, but they are doing this for content - which is how they make money: videos that people watch. So no it’s not realistic in the sense that no actual EV driver does this - at least not routinely. But I think the content is actually beneficial to show the fringe use cases. Besides being entertaining and interesting, it shows the limits of the vehicle to both end customers and the manufacturer. So I watch because it’s more interesting than TV and I’d rather support ($) the OOS family rather than some national advertiser/cable network/streaming service. They don’t need the revenue.
This is more about pushing vehicles to the limit so you don't have to. And clearly in Ford's case, finding a unique issue that sure, most people won't uncover, but if we test to the limits then people might know the limits. And the Cybertruck and Rivian were owned by drivers on their teams, to clarify. Ford was the ONLY one provided by the manufacturer, and couldn't be sold anyways.
The Cyber truck and Rivian were personally vehicles.