A friend of mine had one of these jack-shaft openers installed in his new garage. I was so impressed that when my 30+ year old Lynx opener died I had one of these installed. We love it!
I have used these on multiple garage doors for years! They're great! Easy to install, quiet operation and after 8 years or so, trouble free! Thanks Tim!
@@TractorTimewithTim He left out some details. Drilling up the locking mechanism relative to door travel and why one must interact with home wireless system. What if someone has no internet?
I had one about 20 years ago and had nothing but trouble with it. Ended up swapping out for a traditional model which is still in service today. I'm sure the technology has advanced considerably and probably worth trying again. The advantages are appealing as long as it works.
Been using the lift master version of these jackshaft openers in all my buildings since 2007. First installed these for my home to stop waking up the kids when I went to work. Then I replaced on all my other buildings for the space saving and lower noise and maintenance. The the nice rail slide lock feature is a nice security improvement too.
We installed 3 of the Liftmaster 8500W openers in our new garage last year. They are the same opener just different label. We have been happy with them so far once we got them tuned.
Installed that exact garage door opener not long ago due to lack of room for our bigger door in our added on garage. One problem I had was once you open the door all the way there was not enough weight of the door to bring it self down the rails without tripping that contact switch because there’s no down pressure with this opener. Solution was two heavy duty springs that we installed at the end of the rails to help push the door down to where it’s own weight would take over.
Don't own any tractors. Wanted to see someone install one of these new-fangled openers. You guys did a great video on that. Thanks so much, couldn't have been simpler. You rock.
I just watched this video and I must say, the install of the main unit looks way more simple than I pictured and thought it would be. My present garage door openers are both 8 years old and while they do work, there's lots of slop and jerking when they are asked to raise the doors. One is an RV garage door and the other is a standard 8' high 2-car door opener. They are both working great but, my doors are SERIOUSLY noisy. And, the drive is part belt and part chain. There is a ton of jerking when starting to raise the doors. So, I'm thinking this newer style of opener. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very informative. Scott
By far the best step by step I've seen on this opener. I will be installing mine this weekend and feel confident it will go smoothly after watching your video. Thanks
Good choice, I have that on my 12 foot and a 14 foot. definitely allows more space below the door. My metal building blocked the remote unless next to the building. I added wire to the "antenna wire leading outside. Open from 200 feet away now.
Glad to see there is a cable sensor, back in the 80's I worked where they put that style opener on 4 overhead doors in the warehouse. The openers didn't have a sensor like that and for some reason one of the doors jammed in the opening for a couple of seconds. The opener kept turning the bar, which unrolled more cable. The cable came off the pulley on to the bar and when the door freed itself, came down with a big bang. Luckily no one got hurt, but it could have been bad. Great install video.
I just bought one of these for my 14'x18' door on my pole barn. Thanks for the walk through on install. I'm going to put the light on the ceiling where the legacy opener would go.
Another good video. I've had one of these (ceiling mount) for many many years. After about 5 or 6 years I had to replace the battery. But I'll never buy a garage opener without the battery backup. I now have 4 of them.
Love those openers. It allowed me the opportunity to use the area on the door header for shelf storage of lesser used stuff. Glad to see that there still is some decent customer service sensitive companies around.
Those are great openers. I walked my son in NC installing one (I am in MO). Unfortunately his had a bad control board in it. CS was not good at that time nor was response time. Yes it was a liftmaster. Once working it is a great opener. Glad to hear your CS experience was much better than my son’s. His was installed a few years (maybe 2+) ago.
I have had the same style Liftmaster for over a year. I like it and the battery has come in handy. Haven't used any of the wifi stuff. I need to rewatch the electronics added to your building. Yes you have to pull the rope again. I used my door a month or 2 before I had power.
That was a great video. It’s nice to see different aspects....like you said, it’s all tractor related. About 30 seconds before you said that you should have painted the wall first, that exact thought had crossed my mind. Your “diy how to” videos are always good. You have a real knack for explaining things well.
@2:21 My friend saw a cat doing this and said, "Gee, I wish I could do that." I told her the cat might scratch her! @9:05 Good thing you left the string long, it came in handy.
Installed one of these in my workshop last summer, so much better than the rail & chain-driven type. Bonus: this one’s WiFi connectivity talks to my other three openers so now I can control them all via my phone!
Me and my dad have one of these on our building door except ours is a lift master and it works great. We have a keypad on the outside of the door frame and we never even use the personnel door we really love that. I really love watching your videos keep it up.
I work in a garage and we've had the wall mount opener for a very long time 22 plus years. Our original opener was mounted in the center of the torsion tube. It was a real pain if it needed maintenance or repair since it was in the middle. It would fail in the up or going down position. With the door in the way it made life difficult fixing it. The newer replacements are on the side like yours.
@@stevenstrosser6025 Yeah, well my brother had one installed and the idiots did not set the cable tension monitor correctly and the door would stop moving while the opener kept rotating which would unravel his door assist cables. His brand new 9000 dollar door got bent up pretty good on this brand new house. So, there is that.
I added onto my existing garage and put a vaulted ceiling with tongue and groove pine ceiling. I didn't have room for a traditional opener because it wood go right up to the ceiling fan and look ugly. This side mounted unit maybe just the ticket for my application. Thanks Tim. Russ-Esko Minnesota
Still in the dream stage of building on my 20 acre property on the mountain in central TN, so I enjoy all your videos to get ideas. Thank you Tim. May the Lord continue to bless you and the family!
HI Christy and Tim. Nice setup. I had one of these installed in 2016 on my 10 x 16 overhead door. Works great and mine was LiftMaster. Works exactly as yours except I don't have the MyQ up and running.
love your videos. That said I can give you an idea I use on the garage door bottom gasket. When I installed a new gasket I took a foam water pipe insulator tubes and I cut it in half then slid it into the gasket with the rounded side down. This made for a much tighter seal on the bottom of my door, and it really worked well. Thanks Bob Jensen
Thanks! I was thinking about trying something similar. I was thinking of softer foam. Do you think the pipe insulation turned out to be the right weight?
Years ago when I built a pole building and made it my garage, I installed Wayne Dalton garage doors. They had an opener called an I-Drive (I think) which worked much on this same principle. The motor mounted in the center of my spring bar and it turns the bar and opens the door. I am almost 100% Wayne Dalton discontinued this opener. I always liked the idea of how the opener worked (opened and closed the door). Good to see something has come out similar.
@@dolphincliffs8864 Maybe so. My doors have held up well and the openers are still functioning; however, I do have an issue with one closing from time to time. Hey, I was "younger and dumber" back then on a limited budget. A local lumber yard had a pole barn package I purchased and the doors were Wayne Dalton; so, I went with their openers. As Tractor Tim said, "nothing hanging down in the middle". Also didn't have to worry about the chain/belt system. Really do like the side mount opener he showed.
We have the same opener and cannot be more happy. I added some RD40 to the hinges and now you don’t hear the door at all when opening or closing. With regards to the battery: wait until you have a power failure. Then you will experience how handy it is. The lock bolt won’t work but the door opens and closes up to 25 times or so.
I bought several step bits, some I purchased at Harbor Freight. One was Milwaukee, kinda high dollar, it wasn't worth a crap, just drilling into my girts on my building which aren't thick. Harbor Freight turned out to be the best. Those garage door openers have been around for a long time.
I just put a direct drive (genie) on the new 16x8 on my new garage. I love the thing, so quiet and smooth, sometimes i dont even think i opened the door till i check in the morning
Our contractor had this type opener installed in our new house two years ago. First time I ever saw them. Really like the remote access with the app. Put a gateway on my shop door and can control all overhead doors from the app.
I recently installed the Liftmaster version of this jack shaft lifter. At least for mine, if I pull the cables off the battery while its unplugged I loose the WiFi settings. Battery really is required for the wireless version. They don't really make that clear. Once I got it all tuned in, its been working great. I really like it and for the same reasons you wanted it as well.
Good to have the button close to edge of door so you can reach in and tap it on your way out. I’m going to say that what you thought was your mistake was something you will appreciate as time goes by. 👍🏼
Tim your tube that's not level that your opener is connecting to is called the torsion tube the spring that makes your door seem much lighter than it is . its not unlevel its under load from the spring that's on the torsion tube . please don't try and level it. The spring is wound 28 - 32 times to create the force to help the opener operate the garage door. If you have questions please don't ask me... Good luck and happy garaging !!! Oh and nice choice on your opener it doesn't get better than that .
I've installed 2 of these wall mounted openers. They works great. I recommend to others... Yes. Configuring its up/down movement and its other features are "a pain". Read the manual really slowly with a large cup of hot coffee and a good set of reading glasses. After the 3rd "read", I got it configured / working properly. As others mentioned, go slow with its wiring connections and its profile / up & down configurations.. It's worth it by going slow....
Setting the up and down is easy. The problem is the door has a given amount of travel before it reacts to selecting the stop button. There is a delay. So going back to drilling up the locking mechanism. I could see this as a pain unless the locking pin is quite a bit less in diameter than the 3/4 inch hole drilled for the steel round pin.
I installed the RJO70 on one of my garage doors nearly 10 months ago after the old opener failed. I've been fairly happy with it, however, my opener will sometimes fail to close when I use the wired mounted opener control to close the door. The wireless remote and the wifi app works every time. Other than that I would recommend them to anyone if you're OK with the increased price over a traditional (cheaper) opener.
Looks like a nice and secure overhead door opener. Great job talking through the challenges you encountered. I wouldn't have considered upgrading my openers myself, but this video makes it seem completely doable. We have some minor damage on the rear door of our minivan from the current opener... ugh.
these are great door openers, In the lovely CA its become a nanny state and some politicians felt that these were not safety compliant and bans the sale of em now. I had installed my openers prior to that they are still working 16 years with not one issue. I had one shop door that was manual and I wanted to install the opener when I ran into the new regulation’s so I ordered it sending it to Missouri and had my daughter bring it home with her when she finished college. I found your video feed after viewing the Green Hinge system makes for a nice tight sealed door. Thanks for the slide barn track suggestion. subscribed !
Hi Tim love your videos just wanted to let everyone know if your door doesn't have posi tension springs on the cable drums you eill have problems with those operators. Reason being this operator turns the spring if the shaft if door is not in great condition the cables will move and door won't causing the cables to come off.
I incline my tracks a little bit when using these operators so that there is always down downward pressure placed on the cables. As soon as the torsion bar turns, I want that door to move. Dust and sludge can bind the wheels over time. The door may come down on an object on one side for just a split second that slacks one of the cables. Even with the sensor, those cables can get loose enough to misalign on the drums and then your door will get caught or even drop dangerously. Best case scenario for these operators is with a hilift track where the bottom panel is still vertical. My backyard shop door (12x13h) has tracks for a 14' high door, so it gives me a slight hilift, and the operator works flawlessly because the cables are always have downward tension if the torsion bar moves up or down. I also will tighten one or both springs tighter than specs call to ensure the cables remain tight even when the door is opened fully. Need to always keep those cables tight on the drums with these jackshaft operators.
I love that style opener. One thing with them is there is nothing that keeps the door down other than the weight of the door. That is why that lock is there otherwise you can grab the door and just raise it, if you are strong enough to lift the full weight of the door, when it is closed. I used on a 12 foot door in a 18 foot high garage and was able to take the door vertical the 6 feet an then turn keeping it tight to the ceiling.
I just bought two of these for my new shop! Although i did only go with the RJO20 models...Still waiting on my doors so i can install them...perfect timing on the video!
Appreciate the explanation of the release lever. And reengagement. No issues with mine other than the rubber door seal during the summer heat seals/sticks to the concrete and at times causes the motor to strain and create a power/torque fault on the controller. Usually another press on the controller opens the door.
I saw similar about a decade ago from Dalton doors. Just today I was thinking how can I put an opener in yet clear my cab. Bingo Tim reminds of this style opener, thanks
Great video. The tech added to the opener is new, but the side opener style is fairly old. Whish my door opening was that tall, I want a new truck, but can't put a rack on it if I want to park in the garage.
Wow, didn’t know that type of opener existed. It seems like it would be better for your door because you’re lifting it from the bottom instead of stretching it by lifting it from the top. Pretty cool.
Never seen or heard of one of those. Very interesting. We definitely need/appreciate the battery back up options here, but I could see how it would hardly ever be needed there.
Finally....a door opener that makes sense!!! Exactly what I need for a 7' high door in a 16' high ceiling space. No more trying to figure out how to mount the operator with the necessary bracing on a high ceiling. Now....they need to work on the pricing! $500....OUCH!
Great video as alway Tim. We have two of these installed on the two garage doors on our house. One of the locks died after a year, but everything else works great. Love the two motion lights that were included.
Very nice set up 👍 . On that Step Drill bit. If I was going to make a large hole with it, I would use a small drill bit for a Pilot hole first and then use the Step Drill Bit. It'll save the small point on the Step Drill bit for the future .
They are nice units. You do have smoke detectors inside? With strobe lights? 🙃🙃🙃 Your channel just grows up with time and matures. Its like a fine wine.
Steppers are expensive but work great. I’m going to go this route if all my measurements work. I have walls immediately on both sides. It won’t be so easy for me but I believe I have the space.
I really like these however they aren't the cheapest. I've been installing doors and operators for over 13 years. Chamberlain (craftsman and liftmaster) is one of the best. operators out there.
Door installer/tech of 15+ yrs Liftmaster/Chamberlain is the best. I have installed countless LiftMaster 8500w ( same thing just branded as LiftMaster), I was not aware that Chamberlain made one that was not branded LiftMaster
I have 3 of the openers in service for over a year. No problems. I do wish I had the wifi models, but I can add that if I wish. My installer advised a clear tube to fit inside the bottom seal, to stiffen up that floor seal as my concrete is a bit off level.
Another observation that needs their attention. The coupling device to the spring rod needs to also include a solid or thicker walled bushing that inserts into the end of the hollow spring rod so you can really torque down the coupling bolts to avoid future slipping.
Wrong. Firstly, it's called a torsion rod. Secondly, one does not have to over torque the bolts that hold it onto the torsion rod. Just tighten them snugly, and they will hold for years. Recheck after year 5. Class dismissed.
Great video Tim, I've been thinking about putting an opener on my shop and this looks like the one even though it may be a little more expensive. I have the same type of torsion system you have and the opener will work perfectly. Thanks for sharing have a wonderful weekend
Make sure the door is running perfectly. These are finicky. I install doors and openers for a living. If the doors running good your good. If not have it serviced and new springs, rollers etc installed first
i install garage doors for a living, the door will tend to close slightly crooked because the opener is applying force on only one side of the door. So that is normal, great video
I had this idea two months ago.... And had no idea they already came out.... I don't know how it took them so long to make a more compact unit with no rail.... Golf simulator in the garage won't have to worry about the motor or track
Thank you for confirming I don't have to be perfectly vertical if my torsion bar is higher in the center. The unit has to be perpendicular to the torsion bar at the end. I installed mine today and I worried that it wasn't completely parallel to the door.
I installed the LiftMaster version of this opener when they first came out. Love how quiet it is. Just make sure you check the duty cycle on it (mine was something like 4 cycles in 10 minutes) so you don't overheat the motor. Probably not an issue for you, but something to think about for people with kids who are going in and out of the garage frequently during the summer.
It's looks pretty much the same, expect we don't have the battery backup. Our unit is capable of having the backup battery, it just didn't come with the battery itself, have to buy it seperately. You're not alone on having setup issues. Directions weren't very clear but I finally got it after 15-20 minutes of head scratching. My wife had issues undoing the release as well. I just told her to pull the rope till you feel like you're about to rip the unit off the wall, then pull a little harder. That release does loosen up over time. At least it has on our unit. Best of luck with it and thanks for all the videos!
Tim and Christie, I just installed the same unit on my barn. My 2 biggest challenges were building the framework behind the opener and then programming the travel. We still need to find a project for Johnny and Sassy Massey(1526) to do.
You're a life saver mentioning that you have to pull the lever harder to reengage the motor. Wish that was in the instructions!
A friend of mine had one of these jack-shaft openers installed in his new garage. I was so impressed that when my 30+ year old Lynx opener died I had one of these installed. We love it!
I have used these on multiple garage doors for years! They're great! Easy to install, quiet operation and after 8 years or so, trouble free! Thanks Tim!
Tim is so gentle and patient. He is the Mr Rogers of mechanics!👍🏻
Would you be mine? Won’t you be mine? Won’t you be....my neighbor?!?
Hey neighbors grab your 3/8 wrench lol
@@TractorTimewithTim He left out some details. Drilling up the locking mechanism relative to door travel and why one must interact with home wireless system. What if someone has no internet?
Great Video. I don’t usually comment, but I wanted to say great job calling out bolt and wrench sizes as you go. I appreciated that!
Good to see someone has real set up problems, not like other channels. Good trouble shooting and set up issues, thanks for your genuine effort.
I had one about 20 years ago and had nothing but trouble with it. Ended up swapping out for a traditional model which is still in service today. I'm sure the technology has advanced considerably and probably worth trying again. The advantages are appealing as long as it works.
Been using the lift master version of these jackshaft openers in all my buildings since 2007. First installed these for my home to stop waking up the kids when I went to work. Then I replaced on all my other buildings for the space saving and lower noise and maintenance. The the nice rail slide lock feature is a nice security improvement too.
We installed 3 of the Liftmaster 8500W openers in our new garage last year. They are the same opener just different label. We have been happy with them so far once we got them tuned.
Installed that exact garage door opener not long ago due to lack of room for our bigger door in our added on garage. One problem I had was once you open the door all the way there was not enough weight of the door to bring it self down the rails without tripping that contact switch because there’s no down pressure with this opener. Solution was two heavy duty springs that we installed at the end of the rails to help push the door down to where it’s own weight would take over.
That’s the problem with these,I’ve had to install traditional openers after going back to jobs several times for the cable tensioner error
Seems to me you can set the travel distance up and down. Simply don't set the UP so high, right?
Don't own any tractors. Wanted to see someone install one of these new-fangled openers. You guys did a great video on that. Thanks so much, couldn't have been simpler. You rock.
Just had three of these installed on my workshop. Very quiet. Love using them with my phone no need for a key pad anymore. Have a blessed day.
I installed two Liftmaster 8500W’s this summer in my new pole barn. 12’x12’ doors. I love the quiet operation, and the automatic deadbolt.
I just watched this video and I must say, the install of the main unit looks way more simple than I pictured and thought it would be. My present garage door openers are both 8 years old and while they do work, there's lots of slop and jerking when they are asked to raise the doors. One is an RV garage door and the other is a standard 8' high 2-car door opener. They are both working great but, my doors are SERIOUSLY noisy. And, the drive is part belt and part chain. There is a ton of jerking when starting to raise the doors. So, I'm thinking this newer style of opener. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Very informative.
Scott
By far the best step by step I've seen on this opener. I will be installing mine this weekend and feel confident it will go smoothly after watching your video. Thanks
I just bought one of these. This is a great video that I will use when I install mine. Thank you for doing this!
Good choice, I have that on my 12 foot and a 14 foot. definitely allows more space below the door. My metal building blocked the remote unless next to the building. I added wire to the "antenna wire leading outside. Open from 200 feet away now.
Glad to see there is a cable sensor, back in the 80's I worked where they put that style opener on 4 overhead doors in the warehouse. The openers didn't have a sensor like that and for some reason one of the doors jammed in the opening for a couple of seconds. The opener kept turning the bar, which unrolled more cable. The cable came off the pulley on to the bar and when the door freed itself, came down with a big bang. Luckily no one got hurt, but it could have been bad.
Great install video.
I just bought one of these for my 14'x18' door on my pole barn. Thanks for the walk through on install. I'm going to put the light on the ceiling where the legacy opener would go.
Another good video. I've had one of these (ceiling mount) for many many years. After about 5 or 6 years I had to replace the battery. But I'll never buy a garage opener without the battery backup. I now have 4 of them.
Thanks for this video Tim, this was my first time installing a wall mount and you saved me lots of mistakes.
Thanks for watching!
I love the new light fixtures,lots of customers don't want them so I have 5 mounted over my benches in my shop on a three button transmitter
I appreciate the time you took to walk us through this-- I'm installing mine tomorrow!
Installation successful. Thanks again!
Congratulations!
Love those openers. It allowed me the opportunity to use the area on the door header for shelf storage of lesser used stuff. Glad to see that there still is some decent customer service sensitive companies around.
You’ve turned that pole shed from a problematic building into a Cadillac of a shop. I love it
It has come a long way. That is for sure!!!
Those are great openers. I walked my son in NC installing one (I am in MO). Unfortunately his had a bad control board in it. CS was not good at that time nor was response time. Yes it was a liftmaster. Once working it is a great opener. Glad to hear your CS experience was much better than my son’s. His was installed a few years (maybe 2+) ago.
Really enjoyed this. You are an exceptional presenter,sir. Thanks
I literally had a garage door failure yesterday! Haha good timing! Take care!
I have had the same style Liftmaster for over a year. I like it and the battery has come in handy. Haven't used any of the wifi stuff. I need to rewatch the electronics added to your building. Yes you have to pull the rope again. I used my door a month or 2 before I had power.
That was a great video. It’s nice to see different aspects....like you said, it’s all tractor related. About 30 seconds before you said that you should have painted the wall first, that exact thought had crossed my mind. Your “diy how to” videos are always good. You have a real knack for explaining things well.
Can you contact me via email?
@@TractorTimewithTim Absolutely!!
Haven’t installed mine yet, but will be putting it up tomorrow. Thanks for the great info, I feel like you give a lot of great tips!
Im loving this video. Makes me wish I was into tractors so I had a reason to watch more of his videos.
Ah, ya never know. You might enjoy some of our tractor adventures!
@2:21 My friend saw a cat doing this and said, "Gee, I wish I could do that."
I told her the cat might scratch her!
@9:05 Good thing you left the string long, it came in handy.
Installed one of these in my workshop last summer, so much better than the rail & chain-driven type. Bonus: this one’s WiFi connectivity talks to my other three openers so now I can control them all via my phone!
Me and my dad have one of these on our building door except ours is a lift master and it works great. We have a keypad on the outside of the door frame and we never even use the personnel door we really love that. I really love watching your videos keep it up.
I’ve got this motor, absolutely love it. I love that auto lock feature as well.
He's so nice. Love the kitties (I'm a rescuer)!
💥 Well ain’t it something! Didn’t know those door openers existed. Seems simple and easier to install than the overhead unit.
*Keep on tractoring!*
I work in a garage and we've had the wall mount opener for a very long time 22 plus years. Our original opener was mounted in the center of the torsion tube. It was a real pain if it needed maintenance or repair since it was in the middle. It would fail in the up or going down position. With the door in the way it made life difficult fixing it. The newer replacements are on the side like yours.
Excellent video tutorial. About to install one of these units on our 14x12 overhead door
Well done my friend! Great job for the step by step installation
Great stuff, dont think i couldve installed it without this video.
as a garage door tech, i love installing these over the traditional overhead openers
A lot less Stuff to mess with!! Don't have to keep moving the ladder either.
I like it!!
@@GosselinFarmsEdGosselin Exactly!!! Not to mention in the 7 years I've been doing this that I've yet to have one break down!!
@@stevenstrosser6025 less to go wrong 👍
@@stevenstrosser6025 Yeah, well my brother had one installed and the idiots did not set the cable tension monitor correctly and the door would stop moving while the opener kept rotating which would unravel his door assist cables. His brand new 9000 dollar door got bent up pretty good on this brand new house. So, there is that.
I added onto my existing garage and put a vaulted ceiling with tongue and groove pine ceiling. I didn't have room for a traditional opener because it wood go right up to the ceiling fan and look ugly. This side mounted unit maybe just the ticket for my application. Thanks Tim. Russ-Esko Minnesota
Thank you for this video!!!! Wow! My installer had the exact challenges @ your 17:35 mark. Much appreciated!
Still in the dream stage of building on my 20 acre property on the mountain in central TN, so I enjoy all your videos to get ideas. Thank you Tim. May the Lord continue to bless you and the family!
HI Christy and Tim.
Nice setup. I had one of these installed in 2016 on my 10 x 16 overhead door. Works great and mine was LiftMaster. Works exactly as yours except I don't have the MyQ up and running.
liftmaster is made by Chamberlin, just you have an older model
love your videos. That said I can give you an idea I use on the garage door bottom gasket. When I installed a new gasket I took a foam water pipe insulator tubes and I cut it in half then slid it into the gasket with the rounded side down. This made for a much tighter seal on the bottom of my door, and it really worked well.
Thanks Bob Jensen
Thanks! I was thinking about trying something similar. I was thinking of softer foam. Do you think the pipe insulation turned out to be the right weight?
Years ago when I built a pole building and made it my garage, I installed Wayne Dalton garage doors. They had an opener called an I-Drive (I think) which worked much on this same principle. The motor mounted in the center of my spring bar and it turns the bar and opens the door. I am almost 100% Wayne Dalton discontinued this opener. I always liked the idea of how the opener worked (opened and closed the door). Good to see something has come out similar.
Anything Wayne Dalton is absolute vomit.
@@dolphincliffs8864 Maybe so. My doors have held up well and the openers are still functioning; however, I do have an issue with one closing from time to time. Hey, I was "younger and dumber" back then on a limited budget. A local lumber yard had a pole barn package I purchased and the doors were Wayne Dalton; so, I went with their openers. As Tractor Tim said, "nothing hanging down in the middle". Also didn't have to worry about the chain/belt system. Really do like the side mount opener he showed.
@@garretlewis4103 It isn't your fault. Trust me ,I have done some ignorant and dumb stuff!
I just put 2 of those in my shop. I am very happy with their quality and the app works great as well.
We have the same opener and cannot be more happy.
I added some RD40 to the hinges and now you don’t hear the door at all when opening or closing.
With regards to the battery: wait until you have a power failure. Then you will experience how handy it is. The lock bolt won’t work but the door opens and closes up to 25 times or so.
I bought several step bits, some I purchased at Harbor Freight. One was Milwaukee, kinda high dollar, it wasn't worth a crap, just drilling into my girts on my building which aren't thick. Harbor Freight turned out to be the best. Those garage door openers have been around for a long time.
I just put a direct drive (genie) on the new 16x8 on my new garage. I love the thing, so quiet and smooth, sometimes i dont even think i opened the door till i check in the morning
The genie is a much better machine than the chamberlain/liftmaster. You made the right choice
Our contractor had this type opener installed in our new house two years ago. First time I ever saw them. Really like the remote access with the app. Put a gateway on my shop door and can control all overhead doors from the app.
You got a tech support person who spoke English? Lucky dog! Thanks for the video.
Gregory was as American as it gets. Really enjoyed and appreciated his service.
Great job. You answer my question on resting the door release. Thanks
I recently installed the Liftmaster version of this jack shaft lifter. At least for mine, if I pull the cables off the battery while its unplugged I loose the WiFi settings. Battery really is required for the wireless version. They don't really make that clear. Once I got it all tuned in, its been working great. I really like it and for the same reasons you wanted it as well.
Good to have the button close to edge of door so you can reach in and tap it on your way out. I’m going to say that what you thought was your mistake was something you will appreciate as time goes by. 👍🏼
Tim your tube that's not level that your opener is connecting to is called the torsion tube the spring that makes your door seem much lighter than it is . its not unlevel its under load from the spring that's on the torsion tube . please don't try and level it. The spring is wound 28 - 32 times to create the force to help the opener operate the garage door. If you have questions please don't ask me... Good luck and happy garaging !!! Oh and nice choice on your opener it doesn't get better than that .
I've installed 2 of these wall mounted openers. They works great. I recommend to others... Yes. Configuring its up/down movement and its other features are "a pain". Read the manual really slowly with a large cup of hot coffee and a good set of reading glasses. After the 3rd "read", I got it configured / working properly. As others mentioned, go slow with its wiring connections and its profile / up & down configurations.. It's worth it by going slow....
Setting the up and down is easy. The problem is the door has a given amount of travel before it reacts to selecting the stop button. There is a delay. So going back to drilling up the locking mechanism. I could see this as a pain unless the locking pin is quite a bit less in diameter than the 3/4 inch hole drilled for the steel round pin.
I installed the RJO70 on one of my garage doors nearly 10 months ago after the old opener failed. I've been fairly happy with it, however, my opener will sometimes fail to close when I use the wired mounted opener control to close the door. The wireless remote and the wifi app works every time. Other than that I would recommend them to anyone if you're OK with the increased price over a traditional (cheaper) opener.
Looks like a nice and secure overhead door opener. Great job talking through the challenges you encountered. I wouldn't have considered upgrading my openers myself, but this video makes it seem completely doable.
We have some minor damage on the rear door of our minivan from the current opener... ugh.
Really not hard at all. Just took a little time.
these are great door openers, In the lovely CA its become a nanny state and some politicians felt that these were not safety compliant and bans the sale of em now. I had installed my openers prior to that they are still working 16 years with not one issue. I had one shop door that was manual and I wanted to install the opener when I ran into the new regulation’s so I ordered it sending it to Missouri and had my daughter bring it home with her when she finished college. I found your video feed after viewing the Green Hinge system makes for a nice tight sealed door. Thanks for the slide barn track suggestion. subscribed !
Hi Tim love your videos just wanted to let everyone know if your door doesn't have posi tension springs on the cable drums you eill have problems with those operators. Reason being this operator turns the spring if the shaft if door is not in great condition the cables will move and door won't causing the cables to come off.
I incline my tracks a little bit when using these operators so that there is always down downward pressure placed on the cables. As soon as the torsion bar turns, I want that door to move. Dust and sludge can bind the wheels over time. The door may come down on an object on one side for just a split second that slacks one of the cables. Even with the sensor, those cables can get loose enough to misalign on the drums and then your door will get caught or even drop dangerously. Best case scenario for these operators is with a hilift track where the bottom panel is still vertical. My backyard shop door (12x13h) has tracks for a 14' high door, so it gives me a slight hilift, and the operator works flawlessly because the cables are always have downward tension if the torsion bar moves up or down. I also will tighten one or both springs tighter than specs call to ensure the cables remain tight even when the door is opened fully. Need to always keep those cables tight on the drums with these jackshaft operators.
I love that style opener. One thing with them is there is nothing that keeps the door down other than the weight of the door. That is why that lock is there otherwise you can grab the door and just raise it, if you are strong enough to lift the full weight of the door, when it is closed. I used on a 12 foot door in a 18 foot high garage and was able to take the door vertical the 6 feet an then turn keeping it tight to the ceiling.
Nah, it does not allow the door to come up manually (even before it hits the lock).
You do not know what you are talking about.
I just bought two of these for my new shop! Although i did only go with the RJO20 models...Still waiting on my doors so i can install them...perfect timing on the video!
Appreciate the explanation of the release lever. And reengagement. No issues with mine other than the rubber door seal during the summer heat seals/sticks to the concrete and at times causes the motor to strain and create a power/torque fault on the controller. Usually another press on the controller opens the door.
I saw similar about a decade ago from Dalton doors. Just today I was thinking how can I put an opener in yet clear my cab. Bingo Tim reminds of this style opener, thanks
interesting, I'm building a new pole barn with roll up door and will require this type of door opener. Thanks for info.
Great video.
The tech added to the opener is new, but the side opener style is fairly old.
Whish my door opening was that tall, I want a new truck, but can't put a rack on it if I want to park in the garage.
Wow, didn’t know that type of opener existed. It seems like it would be better for your door because you’re lifting it from the bottom instead of stretching it by lifting it from the top. Pretty cool.
I think 3 and a piece! Interesting
Measurement!
That was really interesting! Like seeing new products and their usefulness! Great job!
I have a pair of them. Great openers. No extra garbage hanging in the middle of the garage.
Heck yeah .... this will be my next opener type!
Never seen or heard of one of those. Very interesting. We definitely need/appreciate the battery back up options here, but I could see how it would hardly ever be needed there.
Finally....a door opener that makes sense!!! Exactly what I need for a 7' high door in a 16' high ceiling space. No more trying to figure out how to mount the operator with the necessary bracing on a high ceiling. Now....they need to work on the pricing! $500....OUCH!
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Excellent video. Love your patience.
Great video as alway Tim. We have two of these installed on the two garage doors on our house. One of the locks died after a year, but everything else works great. Love the two motion lights that were included.
Very nice set up 👍 . On that Step Drill bit. If I was going to make a large hole with it, I would use a small drill bit for a Pilot hole first and then use the Step Drill Bit. It'll save the small point on the Step Drill bit for the future .
They are nice units. You do have smoke detectors inside? With strobe lights? 🙃🙃🙃 Your channel just grows up with time and matures. Its like a fine wine.
Steppers are expensive but work great. I’m going to go this route if all my measurements work. I have walls immediately on both sides. It won’t be so easy for me but I believe I have the space.
I like your scripture at the end of your vid Brother Tim. Pretty Cool!
Thanks for watching!
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Interesting design. And it makes sense. I added MyQ to my existing garage door, and it works great.
Couldn't watch the video, to obsessed with the cat! Trying to figure out what in the heck he was doing behind the fuzzy screen.... 😂
I really like these however they aren't the cheapest. I've been installing doors and operators for over 13 years. Chamberlain (craftsman and liftmaster) is one of the best. operators out there.
Door installer/tech of 15+ yrs
Liftmaster/Chamberlain is the best.
I have installed countless LiftMaster 8500w ( same thing just branded as LiftMaster), I was not aware that Chamberlain made one that was not branded LiftMaster
So Quiet!!! So worth the money, when I need new one I am getting one of these!! Then hiring someone to put it in! LOL.... Thanks!
Thanks for the tutorial friends. Great job
I have 3 of the openers in service for over a year. No problems. I do wish I had the wifi models, but I can add that if I wish. My installer advised a clear tube to fit inside the bottom seal, to stiffen up that floor seal as my concrete is a bit off level.
I think I need that as well!
Another observation that needs their attention. The coupling device to the spring rod needs to also include a solid or thicker walled bushing that inserts into the end of the hollow spring rod so you can really torque down the coupling bolts to avoid future slipping.
Wrong. Firstly, it's called a torsion rod. Secondly, one does not have to over torque the bolts that hold it onto the torsion rod. Just tighten them snugly, and they will hold for years. Recheck after year 5. Class dismissed.
Great video Tim, I've been thinking about putting an opener on my shop and this looks like the one even though it may be a little more expensive. I have the same type of torsion system you have and the opener will work perfectly. Thanks for sharing have a wonderful weekend
Make sure the door is running perfectly. These are finicky. I install doors and openers for a living. If the doors running good your good. If not have it serviced and new springs, rollers etc installed first
i install garage doors for a living, the door will tend to close slightly crooked because the opener is applying force on only one side of the door. So that is normal, great video
Putting up 12x12 insulated doors in my shop now. I like this door opening unit.
I had this idea two months ago.... And had no idea they already came out.... I don't know how it took them so long to make a more compact unit with no rail.... Golf simulator in the garage won't have to worry about the motor or track
All that is great, But, if the power goes out, can you still open door by hand???
Thank you for confirming I don't have to be perfectly vertical if my torsion bar is higher in the center. The unit has to be perpendicular to the torsion bar at the end. I installed mine today and I worried that it wasn't completely parallel to the door.
I installed the LiftMaster version of this opener when they first came out. Love how quiet it is. Just make sure you check the duty cycle on it (mine was something like 4 cycles in 10 minutes) so you don't overheat the motor. Probably not an issue for you, but something to think about for people with kids who are going in and out of the garage frequently during the summer.
I think this one is identical. ...cept maybe yours has outdoor keypad.
It's looks pretty much the same, expect we don't have the battery backup. Our unit is capable of having the backup battery, it just didn't come with the battery itself, have to buy it seperately.
You're not alone on having setup issues. Directions weren't very clear but I finally got it after 15-20 minutes of head scratching. My wife had issues undoing the release as well. I just told her to pull the rope till you feel like you're about to rip the unit off the wall, then pull a little harder. That release does loosen up over time. At least it has on our unit. Best of luck with it and thanks for all the videos!
Nice door tim looks really good 👍👍
Tim and Christie, I just installed the same unit on my barn. My 2 biggest challenges were building the framework behind the opener and then programming the travel. We still need to find a project for Johnny and Sassy Massey(1526) to do.
Met you with Casey in the middle of the road, right?
@@TractorTimewithTim yes sir, you thought I was the law. 😀
Just west of Cicero.
I did!
That was excellent, thanks for sharing. I didn't know there were wall mount motors available. great news