I bought one of these and installed it myself with help from a TH-cam video. Without a doubt the best garage door opener out there. It is hooked up to my Alexa. Works perfectly. I couldn't be happier.
A lady we did some plumbing work for had a side mount opener. I was astounded how quiet it was. The chain opener I have in my new house is extremely noisy. The side mount opener is definitely on my to-do list.
Just one thing to point out. If you've never installed an overhead opener, then you might need two people. They are totally doable with one person. The instructions even show you how.
When I bought our current house, I replaced the traditional garage opener with a Liftmaster Elite 8500 wall mounted one. I will never go back to traditional. I like the quiet operation and that it auto locks after it closes.
This looks like a great solution when I need a door opener. My current Genie screw driver opener is 42 years old, and at the time was the only solution because I have a 12" steel beam going across the garage limiting space for an overhead opener, so I was able to cut the screw track shorter in order to make it fit between the front of the garage and the steel beam. It is very loud, but still working for 42 years!
We had a two-car garage in our previous home (we moved into our new place 4 months ago). I installed the Liftmaster version on both doors. It was really appreciated as our main floor was about the garage. The living-room vibrated quite a bit and the noise was intolerable when in operation prior to the side-mount opener. What a great change for us and the future residents. Now we are in the process of replacing our 16’ wooden door and I hope to go the same route. I think I’ll look at the Genie version. Seems like some distinct advantages (Wireless, tension sensor). Thanks. Good vid
The vibration is not a function of the controller unless you have an old chain drive. belt or screw type does not do that. If you have a lot of squeaking it can be from the springs or poorly installed or worn out rollers. They have nylon coated rollers now that also reduce noise. These things are not worth the negatives.
Nice, I also had to change out mine because it was so noisy. We have a two story with bedrooms above the garage, kept waking the kids up when I went work. I also changed out all the rollers to ball bearing nylon, made a big difference.
You left out the best thing about the wall mounted garage door opener. The wall mounted opener allows you to raise the door tracks higher so that a car lift can be installed in the garage. Previously, the door was only 7.5 feet off the floor when it was open. Now it goes all the way up to my 14 foot ceiling.
Our new house has low ceilings in the garage so no overhead unit can be mounted. Previous owner used a DIY bracket to install an overhead unit on the side for both garage doors. The units are relatively new so I'll definitely do one of these side mounted garages when it is about to fail. Appreciate the detailed video!
I have a low ceiling as well. I bought this 6172 from Home Depot online and installed it myself. When I got to setting the limits, I found up was down and down was up. At this point I knew what was wrong and there was a disclaimer about low headroom tracks and that this unit is not compatible. It would have been nice if they had mentioned this on the website or box. After talking to 4 Genie techs asking for a workaround they left a message on my phone the next day saying that I’m gonna have to return this unit. I still have the unit installed and really don’t wanna go through the pain of returning it. Too bad the techs all seemed to bot have any real world instal experience. Someone must know of a way to swap around the torsion bar, pulleys, cable and bottom bracket with a separate offset idler to make this work.
Great job! Clear, concise and helpful. I have the same opener in the box, just need a non-crazy weekend to free up time to install it. The security options on the phone app will help eliminate those few nights where we left the door wide open accidentally. Luckily, nothing got stolen but could have been really bad.
I have a liftmaster wall mount. Its incredibly quiet and smooth, has a auto dead bolt latch to prevent prying up the door and of course has no track cluttering up the ceiling, so highly recommended, I have had zero issues with the unit, but I can't speak for the Genie.
Our last opener quit working about 5 years ago. It was so old, Jesus' fingerprint was still on the pushbutton remote 😄. I replaced it with a belt-driven one thinking it was a great upgrade over the previous one. This one here on your video will certainly be top on my list next time mine needs replacing. Thank you for this video.
Thank you for this video. I just purchased and am moving into a townhome where the main bedroom is above the garage. I don't know how anyone in the home could tolerate the noise from the garage door opener. I am getting one of these this weekend! You have saved me.
I have really tight clearance between the garage door and wall. It's nice to see a unit this small that might be a good fit in the future. I like the wireless network connectivity, deadbolt, and smart close features of this Genie.
I just installed one of these units at my house. I chose the Chamberline Rj070 since I dont have backup generator. I installed it with Nylon rollers and a silent kit hinges for a really quiet operation.
I wore out two Sears openers due to under engineered design. Tiny drive sprocket wore right through its housing. I decided in spite of the cost of the side mount opener that this is the direction I would go, rather than replace another overhead opener in another ten years or so. I bought the Chamberlain at Home Depot installed it myself. Best opener on the market. Easy install in a manner that makes more sense than overhead center of the door pull style. To drive the spring axle directly is genius. The side mount opener is quiet, has an interface lock, frees up all the space over the door and has battery back -up which works well in case power is interrupted. Also, my existing remotes and the keypad from the SEARS opener are compatible with the new side mount Chamberlin. No track, no chain or belt. No noise, easier on my garage door. Easy to install. Great value in spite of the price. But when you subtract the cost of the overhead door opener from the price of the side mount opener it is only about $200 more. But, worth it.
Great video but I'll stick with my current Genie garage door opener. I have had it in use for over 30 years and have never had an issue with the opener using occasional lubrication of the screw drive and garage door track wheels, and replacing the remote control battery about every 2 years. Very reliable.
I have the Liftmaster version. Absolutely love it and will never use a overhead opener any more. The cable tension sensor Genie has is quite unique. The Liftmaster one is just a simple arm with a switch. The switch is only closed when the cable loses tension so there's no reason for the switch to wear out. The only thing that could go wrong with it is mechanical but even if it does, it's only a few bucks to replace. I'm also not a fan of battery powered remotes. Changing the battery is just another thing you need to do occasionally.
I hate disposable batteries too. Good thing is, the Bluetooth transmitter only uses power when you press the button, so they should last long. The tiny amount to blink the blue locator light every few seconds can be disabled.
I definitely need this. Went to bed with garage door wide open and didn’t realize till after I woke the next morning. Good thing I leave in a decent neighborhood. Thank god nothing was stolen. My opener is old and has a very noisy motor and chain so it’s definitely time for a replacement. Looks like none of he previous owners never changed the original opener ever. Now I know it’s that easy I’ll definitely give it a go myself. Th quotes I got to replace was ridiculously outrageous.
Thank you very much for the video. Great information. I had installed the Liftmaster in a previous house, but I think I will use this one for Melyssa new house. My spaces are tight and I like the narrower design.
First, I'm an overhead door dealer, in business for over 35 years. Chamberlain operators, be they the older Sears Craftsman, Master Mechanic, Raynor, Liftmaster, etc. enjoy excellent parts availability. Most major distributors carry Liftmaster, NOT Genie. Genie was bought out by Overhead Door some years ago, and Overhead Door products have declined in quality over the years (Wayne Dalton merged with Overhead Door - ask anyone who's gone to Lowe's and bought a garage door that's constructed of cardboard with a vinyl overlay what they now think of Wayne Dalton). One thing that struck me about this particular installation was how the Liftmaster was installed. If noise lever was an issue a DC belt operator could have been installed. Moreover, Chamberlain used to offer a "vibration isolation" kit, that can still be found online, that effectively isolated the operator head from the hanging angle, dramatically cutting down on vibration & noise. The biggest issue with Genie is their lack of technical support - out in the field, when I've tried to call Genie for technical assistance, the wait time has been ridiculous. I do not repair any Genie products, nor do most of my competitors. If you buy a Genie product online and run into an issue, good luck trying to find an overhead door company that will service your Genie operator, especially if they didn't install it. If you actually want to learn about operators seek out content from actual overhead door companies that have been in business for over 20 years - we all know something the average DIY'er doesn't.
Thanks for your feedback. I guess Genie is more of a household name and does a better job of direct-to-consumer advertising than LiftMaster. But it’s really good to get a pro’s perspective even though I still advocate for DIYers.
When was the last time a garage door opener (not springs, wheels or rails) broke down and was not just replaced by service Co? I've owned 5 over 40 years in different homes and only replaced one due to burned out motor. That said, it does seem the Chamberlain is fine but the Genie is just slightly lower priced. Maybe worth spending a few bucks more for Chamberlain or LM.
From what I understand the door springs are always active so I suggest you install the deadbolt. The only time you have the doors full weight is if the springs break. Also insulate your door to help the noise or replace/Lube hinges/rollers
@@handydadtv This is correct. The reason for the deadbolt is to prevent someone from breaking the window close to the opener and pulling the manual lease rope.
The lock is to prevent someone from brute forcing the door open, Overhead openers actually pull/push the door and once it's down it's "locked", the side mount could be hulked open technically
Me too. Chamberlain calls it a “jack shaft” opener. Did it myself in a day. Very quiet too. My car is a 2004 and they changed the HomeLink protocol a few years later. Got an extra $35 unit to let my older protocol bridge to the opener. Works with a slight delay. Also, no center rail so more overhead storage.
We got one from Lowes - I installed it with my brother. At first it wouldn’t work - played with it - eventually after talking with tech support, got a little better,but still not working - I had 2 other garage doors replaced & the installer looked at it stated binding in the tracks - lubed it & adjusted - now works awesome. On a 10x10 garage door.
My door was noisy, and found I needed to lube the center bearing between the springs. Now it makes so little noise, I can’t hear it opening or closing.
@@robertheinkel6225 A huge amount of peoples "noise" problem can be solved with a good application of a can of commercial garage door lubricant (any hardware store) on the moving parts. Giving the spring itself a good spray can also help.
I like this solution - I too use storage above my garage that precludes me from having a door opener on one side. This would solve my issue and agree it would be much quieter - Seems like whenever the garage door is opened or closed its loud enough to inform everyone in the house.
Use Garage Door Lube to lubricate thoroughly lube your tension springs, roller pins (not the track) and all the door hinges and your door will virtually be silent. Also take a socket and make sure all your hinge hardware is tight.
Definitely prefer the wall mounted opener compared to my GENIE (24 yrs old and still working without a hitch) ceiling mount. If ever I need to replace it I’ll be switching to this system. Thanks for the video, nicely done.
@@handydadtv I was just talking to our garage door installer (I’m re-placing both doors and openers) a few days ago and he said the new Genie’s are coming out of Red China and their junk. He said he installed 3 of them at a clients home and 2 weeks later he had to go back and repair 2 of them. Hopefully you have better luck with yours.
I have one of these for my 1 car garage. since I got it setup for a high lift. Pro said that the side mounts can be a real pain. you have to have a separate locking bolt since you could just raise it. the only time you should look at one of these is if its a one car garage door. they suck for 2 car garage doors cause they are so heavy.
@@handydadtv just telling ya, this is a pro been doing this for decades. one the pressure is not balanced on top on the bar. its got to come in the side. two its a pain to adjust and keep working. I have had no issues with mine yet but I could totally see on a two car having this just not work for long. Anyone reading this, no one gets a side mount opener unless you have to. like I did so I could get a car lift under the door while opened.
I'm a professional garage door technician I've installed both the LiftMaster and the genie do yourself a favor purchased either the LiftMaster or the Chamberlain unit much better quality!
Darn! I didn't know there was such a thing, and I just got a new ceiling unit! Next time. And, by the way, you are very clever, and I hope your wife appreciates you.
My wife has wanted one of these for a long time. Our garage has really low ceilings so we can not install any other type of garage door opener. One day Ill be able to get one of theses.
My Daughter and Son in law have one of these on each of their garage doors. They were installed with new garage doors by a professional garage door company. I believe It is a chamberland it has the cable slack levers. I have been over to their house numerous times to rewind the cables due to the door opener being activated while the car was in the door opening. (grand kids lol) While there was no serious damage to the door, car or opener I have definitely decided I won't be installing these units on my doors. Also there is the issue that the door tension spring has to be biased to allow the door to come down and not be balanced. Which in my opinion is an unsafe condition because when you pull the release cord to operate the door manually the door automatically wants to come down. Those two things are what are keeping me from purchasing this unit.
Never trust a professional garage door company entirely. They often show up, get the job done as quickly as possible then leave. They can do a shotty job. Regardless of which garage door opener is installed, if you pull the release cord, it should not want to come down. The door should be sticky at any point as you pull it up or down then let go of your hand. If it doesn't stay when you let go of your hand, then the spring or springs need to be adjusted. I would have someone knowledgeable check the installation before a serious accident happens.
That is a poor install . You do need the Correct track set up the reason for the spring and cable issue is installers that’s think less tension will help the door come down easier causing cable slack
I have a liftmaster on the 12x12 door in my Barndominium. Had it for close to 20 years only having to once replace the motherboard. Remotes for Liftmaster tend to not be as supported as the one Genie use. Thinking of adding a second one to put on my door on the other side of the building and glad I now have a choice.
I bought a house that has a car detached garage but there was only 1 door with an opener. the closest door to the house had a Lift Master opener with a chain drive there was nothing for the other side. on Black Friday the local Home Depot had a Genie that came with 2 remotes, and it had a built in light 3/4 hp belt drive and a battery powered keypad and the safety openers. with wifi for $75.00 so i bought 1 and installed it. I couldn't believe how quiet it was. I liked it so much the following year on Black Friday they had a similar one that had a wall mount button but also had battery backup, so i grabbed one and replaced the Lift Master $85.00 and now the 2 doors open nice and quiet. So, both doors for $160.00 and they have worked flawlessly.
That left torsion cable is freying. Youre going to have an out of level door soon with a gap on the bottom. Ive done doors for 24yrs & that genie jackshaft is a good unit. Its pretty close to the liftmaster version. The liftmaster has a cable tensioner that is better. If the door starts down & slack is thrown into the cable, it stop & reverses back open. Its just a fail-safe to prevent cables from being thrown off drums & having a racked door. Nice install my friend👍👍👍[edit] love that tesla too
I have a lift master unit. A little older s as no Wi-Fi but got the Wi-Fi bridge which works great. The MyQ app is pretty good and works with Alexa /amazon delivery. I have the battery and deadbolt so feel pretty safe. The unit is quiet and I like how it slows down when closing instead of slamming into floor.
Well, that was a completely outstanding video - Thank You Very Much for creating this content. Time for me to DIY my shop garage door and enjoy the automation!
When I was younger, my family's chain driven unit conked out and my dad replaced it with an overhead unit that had a threaded shaft instead of a chain. I thought that thing was SO quiet compared to the chain system. Then years later I was working as a house painter, and some lady had what must have been one of the earliest wall mounted lifts like in this video. It was practically silent! Like literally silent. I don't know what brand it was, but it was WAY quieter than this Genie, but I'm sure the Genies are pretty quiet compared to any overhead unit.
Good video. As a Garage door installer I give you a 9 out a 10 installation and that only because I saw that the left side take up cable need to be replace. I recommend to replace both (by a professional) never touch those springs you can lose a limp in a blind of a eye. Be save
Just took down a brand new Genie 6172H that was glitchy from the get-go. They also put out a constant, annoying transformer hum which the Genie help line says is completely normal. Replaced it with a Liftmaster 8500w and am much happier with it across the board, including the app.
The only glitchy thing on mine is the Bluetooth remote. It stops working every few months and I need to pop out a battery to cycle power. Then it’s fine.
As a professional garage door installer I cannot tell you my honest opinion, but I can recommend you install the electric lock since you just told everybody you didn't and you have windows. Someone can simply pop a window and reach over to the emergency release to gain access. Installing that lock will make sure that never happens. Make sure the lock is low enough that they can't reach it. 😉 I have installed countless of both brands.
@@frankpropri540 When I was a young guy in the business I use to do that. But as time has aged me in this business I have seen both brands last incredible lengths of time. Some of the oldest ones I have come across have been the old Genie screw drives, way before sensors. Now I just try and ask what people want or expect out of a garage door opener and help to get them what best suits them. As the two brands continue to develop new products each is coming up with innovative ideas and Genie has really put their focus on ease of installation. Liftmaster has been a leader on feature options. I used to train people on I-drives and Wayne-dalton products and never thought those units would last, but to my own amazement some are still out there after 20 years. I even ran across a torque master spring system the other day that was still working after 24 years, all original, blew my mind.
Holy cow that door squeals! I bet if you sprayed some $5 garage door lube on those wheels and tracks once in a while you’d quiet it down another 20 db lol
Good stuff. I'll need to look at these a little more before committing. Besides, I'll have to convince the wife of yet another of my investment ideas. She's already talking about storage systems on the ceiling. So, this could possibly work. hehe. Thanks for the video.
At my old house I replaced a noise chaindrive door opener with a Belt drive Genie. Was fantastic, my only issue (and one I hated, which is why I probably won't get another Genie) is that with the door open crossing the beam didn't turn the overhead light on. It makes the garage too dark when out with small children, a dog, or it getting late out while hanging outside. My new house has a genie, and same thing, this one's worse though, not only does crossing the beam do nothing, if you press the light button on the pad, it will not go back out. I found this out when I pressed the light to grab a beer one night, about 3 hours later I went to grab another and the light was still on. I'll probably be getting the direct drive chamberlain or liftmaster, unless the genie finally added the beam crossing light feature.
Thanks you got a new sub here. I was in the market for a new garage door opener and I was doing some research and happened to picked your video. I guess it's a win win situation both ways, you got a new sub here, and I'm ordering a Genie to replace my old 15yr Craftsman opener..thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the review. I've got a Model Y also and hate the arm on the garage door that can ram into the open rear hatch. For this alone, the wall-mount unit would be worth it. One mistake would cost more in Model Y repairs than this opener!
Cool video!!! I've been watching and learning cool new ideas for many years, so I'm a fan of your channel. This one is really cool, and I would definitely consider using this if/when mine needs to be replaced. Anyway, I just would like to know if there's any chance you could do maybe like a one-year update to see how its holding up. How long have you been using it??? THANKS FOR THE CONTENT!
Nice video. How is it operating 1 year later. Another question that I have is , would I be able to operate it without Wi-Fi, as I would need o e at my cottage that doesn't have internet.
@donroy9968 Great opener even after a year. My only complaint is the Bluetooth wall remote occasionally needs to be reset by removing/reinserting the battery. Maybe every 2 months or so.
The genie is the best wall mount operator for garage doors out there right now residential wise. It is not recommended to install them like you did on your specific setup of garage door. They should really be used in a high lift configuration not a standard track like you have at your house. Unless your door works absolutely flawlessly it will give you problems over time. It will throw the cables the door will get sideways and almost fall out of the tracks. We repair those every single day around here. Like I said they are great but they have a specific application that they are designed to be working with.
@@handydadtv it’s like a bare minimum code . Yes they can work but they work best on at least 15 inch radius track or high lift ask any professional company and they will tell you it’s nothing but issues
Great video. I was looking for options for my auxiliary 8' door on my RV garage and this seems to be the answer. It also looks easy enough to install myself. Thanks for sharing.
Great review. I still prefer the overhead belt driven by Chamberlain with battery. I’ve installed 3 of them by myself; just use a 2nd ladder or shelf/stacked totes to support the other end. I had a Genie many years ago, and always felt their design & tech elements were lacking which may have changed over the years.
Helpful shown-n-tell. The quieter operation would be a big deal for me. One of my dogs can hear stuff 5 states away......love him, but drives me nuts. :-)
I believe you said your door is quite heavy, went on manual mode? If so, it’s best to replace your springs. One because the springs might be old already or two they installed the wrong springs. You should be able to lift the door with one hand only. And also see from the video that the wires for the door for sure need replacement. The last thing you want is for them to snap and now you got yourself a leaning garage door with the bent corner. Just some tips 👍🏼
I installed this garage door opener about one year ago...and agree it's very quiet, frees ceiling space, and performs wonderfully. My ONLY complaint is with the two spring brackets that are installed on the lower rollers and attached to the cables of the doors. These spring brackets (which assure proper cable tension during closing) are buggy and often get jammed while the door is in the up position and keep the door from closing. Attempts at reshaping the arms and the use of spacers have yielded varied results but have not solved this issue. I can not trust the door to close properly and have to double-check it all the time. This aspect of this otherwise wonderful opener should be re-engineered for a better solution.
@@handydadtv In concept...I agree. But the reality is that garage doors...specifically the lower cable attachment bracket, and the spaces (tolerances) involved vary considerably by age, usage, installation, rail types, etc....and this challenges the spring design and shape, and its ability to perform. It's frustrating that a tiny and inexpensive component can render an otherwise wonderful opener inoperable.
As a professional garage door installer, I have brought this up to Genie. Some brands of garage door tracks are not as tight where they meet as they should be. This allows for a small window where that cable tension spring can get caught right in-between. Once that happens it will jam up the garage door and cause problems. I will remove these entirely if the door is properly balanced and rolls perfect in my eyes. I am not telling you to take yours off, but you might want to have a professional look at it first. The engineers put a lot of work in developing this stuff to work right but they don't test every brand of door nor can they test every scenario.
@@followerofgod7935 Thanks. Good advice. Yes, I have talked with Genie a number of times over the phone and, although they were quite friendly, I didn't get a good solution. I've considered removing the springs...my door is well balanced but I fear having the cable loose when closing and then not functioning properly.
@@jeffw8057 If the cable tensioning springs are causing the problem.....then remove the problem. 😉 The homes that we have removed them on are still working just fine. 😊
After having a bad experience with the Chamberlain type cable sensor this idea does make more sense but the idea that you are relying on the weight of the door to close it is a major flaw. Never mind the locking aspect. If you need to open your door manually for any reason like lift malfunction or power outage you are pretty much screwed especially if you are a smaller person like my wife. I had the other type sensor which was so bad that I returned it but this is only slightly better assuming it works flawlessly all the time. Ill buy one when they rethink the entire drive system and dont rely on gravity to bring the door down. Buyer be ware!
@@handydadtv have you tried to release the drive and open it manually? What would happen if you released it when its raised? I wouldnt want to stand under it.
If the door is balanced properly, meaning, it will want to close, you will never have the motor out-run the springs and cause slack in the cables. This is why I like the type of opener that starts slowly, then speeds up.
I'd love to ditch the overhead track, but I have an extension spring setup, although I love that my springs have held up for >25 years. 2:42 That cable is looking ragged.
It's nice that this Genie doesn't need a cable tension monitor but the cable keeper is an extra piece to install (two pieces actually). Does the Chamberlain require a "cable keeper"?
Informative. 🤔. New home coming along s l o w l y but will be needing an opener. It looks like a good one but power outlets are not that close to door opening. 😮
I bought one of these and installed it myself with help from a TH-cam video. Without a doubt the best garage door opener out there. It is hooked up to my Alexa. Works perfectly. I couldn't be happier.
Happy to hear that!
A lady we did some plumbing work for had a side mount opener. I was astounded how quiet it was. The chain opener I have in my new house is extremely noisy. The side mount opener is definitely on my to-do list.
It’s a good upgrade 👍🏻
I love these side mount openers, they give me enough space to install 4 post lifts.
That’s a really good advantage!
Just one thing to point out. If you've never installed an overhead opener, then you might need two people. They are totally doable with one person. The instructions even show you how.
Thanks
When I bought our current house, I replaced the traditional garage opener with a Liftmaster Elite 8500 wall mounted one. I will never go back to traditional. I like the quiet operation and that it auto locks after it closes.
Thanks. I’d like to try that one and compare it.
This looks like a great solution when I need a door opener. My current Genie screw driver opener is 42 years old, and at the time was the only solution because I have a 12" steel beam going across the garage limiting space for an overhead opener, so I was able to cut the screw track shorter in order to make it fit between the front of the garage and the steel beam. It is very loud, but still working for 42 years!
Holy cow! You got your money’s worth out of that thing!
We had a two-car garage in our previous home (we moved into our new place 4 months ago). I installed the Liftmaster version on both doors. It was really appreciated as our main floor was about the garage. The living-room vibrated quite a bit and the noise was intolerable when in operation prior to the side-mount opener. What a great change for us and the future residents. Now we are in the process of replacing our 16’ wooden door and I hope to go the same route. I think I’ll look at the Genie version. Seems like some distinct advantages (Wireless, tension sensor). Thanks. Good vid
Thanks 😊
The vibration is not a function of the controller unless you have an old chain drive. belt or screw type does not do that. If you have a lot of squeaking it can be from the springs or poorly installed or worn out rollers. They have nylon coated rollers now that also reduce noise. These things are not worth the negatives.
Nice, I also had to change out mine because it was so noisy. We have a two story with bedrooms above the garage, kept waking the kids up when I went work. I also changed out all the rollers to ball bearing nylon, made a big difference.
I replaced the rollers and lubricated the hinges too. The old rollers were also nylon, so that didn’t do much. But lubrication made a big difference.
Don’t forget to lube the center bearing between the springs. That eliminated 90% of my noise.
But that is a double edged sword....the noise would at lease alert you if it was a thief trying to get in
You left out the best thing about the wall mounted garage door opener. The wall mounted opener allows you to raise the door tracks higher so that a car lift can be installed in the garage. Previously, the door was only 7.5 feet off the floor when it was open. Now it goes all the way up to my 14 foot ceiling.
Good point
Our new house has low ceilings in the garage so no overhead unit can be mounted. Previous owner used a DIY bracket to install an overhead unit on the side for both garage doors. The units are relatively new so I'll definitely do one of these side mounted garages when it is about to fail. Appreciate the detailed video!
Thanks 😊
I have a low ceiling as well. I bought this 6172 from Home Depot online and installed it myself. When I got to setting the limits, I found up was down and down was up. At this point I knew what was wrong and there was a disclaimer about low headroom tracks and that this unit is not compatible. It would have been nice if they had mentioned this on the website or box. After talking to 4 Genie techs asking for a workaround they left a message on my phone the next day saying that I’m gonna have to return this unit. I still have the unit installed and really don’t wanna go through the pain of returning it. Too bad the techs all seemed to bot have any real world instal experience. Someone must know of a way to swap around the torsion bar, pulleys, cable and bottom bracket with a separate offset idler to make this work.
Call a garage door installer and see if he can reverse your springs and pulleys.
Quality install on a quality opener! Genie stepped up their game and made and great openers across their entire "professional line"
Thanks 😊
Great job! Clear, concise and helpful. I have the same opener in the box, just need a non-crazy weekend to free up time to install it. The security options on the phone app will help eliminate those few nights where we left the door wide open accidentally. Luckily, nothing got stolen but could have been really bad.
I have mine set to remind me if it’s left open longer that 15 minutes. Also to automatically close it at 10:30pm.
Had mine installed 3 years ago. AWESOME!!!
Glad it’s working out for you! 👍🏻
You were the most thorough I’ve seen here to date. I like those tips on the springs. We can be hours extra without your tips….thanks
Thanks so much 😊
I installed the Chamberlain version from Menards (11% rebate) and love it. Fast, quiet and wi-fi.
Wish we had Menards in NJ.
I have a liftmaster wall mount.
Its incredibly quiet and smooth, has a auto dead bolt latch to prevent prying up the door and of course has no track cluttering up the ceiling, so highly recommended, I have had zero issues with the unit, but I can't speak for the Genie.
I may try that one next.
@@handydadtv You can get the Chamberlain version of the Liftmaster a little cheaper. Pretty much the same thing.
Our last opener quit working about 5 years ago. It was so old, Jesus' fingerprint was still on the pushbutton remote 😄. I replaced it with a belt-driven one thinking it was a great upgrade over the previous one. This one here on your video will certainly be top on my list next time mine needs replacing. Thank you for this video.
The older ones lasted longer than modern devices. Sad but true.
Loved the Jesus fingerprint, funny.
Won't be long, those belts won't last
How do you open during power outage?
@James - If you don’t have the battery backup, you pull the red release cord and operate the door manually.
Thank you for this video. I just purchased and am moving into a townhome where the main bedroom is above the garage. I don't know how anyone in the home could tolerate the noise from the garage door opener. I am getting one of these this weekend! You have saved me.
Enjoy!
I have really tight clearance between the garage door and wall. It's nice to see a unit this small that might be a good fit in the future. I like the wireless network connectivity, deadbolt, and smart close features of this Genie.
I’m very pleased with it.
The shaking of my overhead opener is what would make me consider this wall mounted option.
It’s so much quieter. Even my dog couldn’t hear it when I changed from overhead to wall-mounted.
I just installed one of these units at my house. I chose the Chamberline Rj070 since I dont have backup generator. I installed it with Nylon rollers and a silent kit hinges for a really quiet operation.
Silent hinges? Never heard of them. Do tell!!
@@handydadtv Nylon wheels instead of the noisy metal wheels you have.
I changed the wheels too. Surprisingly the old ones were nylon too.
I wore out two Sears openers due to under engineered design.
Tiny drive sprocket wore right through its housing.
I decided in spite of the cost of the side mount opener that this is the direction I would go, rather than replace another overhead opener in another ten years or so.
I bought the Chamberlain at Home Depot installed it myself.
Best opener on the market.
Easy install in a manner that makes more sense than overhead center of the door pull style.
To drive the spring axle directly is genius.
The side mount opener is quiet, has an interface lock, frees up all the space over the door and has battery back -up which works well in case power is interrupted.
Also, my existing remotes and the keypad from the SEARS opener are compatible with the new side mount Chamberlin.
No track, no chain or belt.
No noise, easier on my garage door.
Easy to install.
Great value in spite of the price.
But when you subtract the cost of the overhead door opener from the price of the side mount opener it is only about $200 more.
But, worth it.
Thanks for the info
Your chain was too tight.
Wasn’t under engineered you either overtigtened chain or had worn springs.
Do you put grease in your tracks to quiet the door down as well?
I replaced the wheels and greased the hinges.
Great video but I'll stick with my current Genie garage door opener. I have had it in use for over 30 years and have never had an issue with the opener using occasional lubrication of the screw drive and garage door track wheels, and replacing the remote control battery about every 2 years. Very reliable.
Good to know they last 👍🏻
I have the Liftmaster version. Absolutely love it and will never use a overhead opener any more. The cable tension sensor Genie has is quite unique. The Liftmaster one is just a simple arm with a switch. The switch is only closed when the cable loses tension so there's no reason for the switch to wear out. The only thing that could go wrong with it is mechanical but even if it does, it's only a few bucks to replace. I'm also not a fan of battery powered remotes. Changing the battery is just another thing you need to do occasionally.
I hate disposable batteries too. Good thing is, the Bluetooth transmitter only uses power when you press the button, so they should last long. The tiny amount to blink the blue locator light every few seconds can be disabled.
Great video. You were straight to the key points and no blah blah blah. Thanks!
“No blah blah blah.” I might use that on a new t-shirt design.
I definitely need this. Went to bed with garage door wide open and didn’t realize till after I woke the next morning. Good thing I leave in a decent neighborhood. Thank god nothing was stolen. My opener is old and has a very noisy motor and chain so it’s definitely time for a replacement. Looks like none of he previous owners never changed the original opener ever. Now I know it’s that easy I’ll definitely give it a go myself. Th quotes I got to replace was ridiculously outrageous.
Yes it’s easy to do yourself.
Thank you very much for the video. Great information. I had installed the Liftmaster in a previous house, but I think I will use this one for Melyssa new house. My spaces are tight and I like the narrower design.
Was that a wall-mounted LiftMaster?
First, I'm an overhead door dealer, in business for over 35 years. Chamberlain operators, be they the older Sears Craftsman, Master Mechanic, Raynor, Liftmaster, etc. enjoy excellent parts availability. Most major distributors carry Liftmaster, NOT Genie. Genie was bought out by Overhead Door some years ago, and Overhead Door products have declined in quality over the years (Wayne Dalton merged with Overhead Door - ask anyone who's gone to Lowe's and bought a garage door that's constructed of cardboard with a vinyl overlay what they now think of Wayne Dalton). One thing that struck me about this particular installation was how the Liftmaster was installed. If noise lever was an issue a DC belt operator could have been installed. Moreover, Chamberlain used to offer a "vibration isolation" kit, that can still be found online, that effectively isolated the operator head from the hanging angle, dramatically cutting down on vibration & noise. The biggest issue with Genie is their lack of technical support - out in the field, when I've tried to call Genie for technical assistance, the wait time has been ridiculous. I do not repair any Genie products, nor do most of my competitors. If you buy a Genie product online and run into an issue, good luck trying to find an overhead door company that will service your Genie operator, especially if they didn't install it. If you actually want to learn about operators seek out content from actual overhead door companies that have been in business for over 20 years - we all know something the average DIY'er doesn't.
Thanks for your feedback. I guess Genie is more of a household name and does a better job of direct-to-consumer advertising than LiftMaster. But it’s really good to get a pro’s perspective even though I still advocate for DIYers.
Dang this was an excellent takedown of Genie and hopefully it's a comment those (like myself) read who were considering buying one.
When was the last time a garage door opener (not springs, wheels or rails) broke down and was not just replaced by service Co? I've owned 5 over 40 years in different homes and only replaced one due to burned out motor. That said, it does seem the Chamberlain is fine but the Genie is just slightly lower priced. Maybe worth spending a few bucks more for Chamberlain or LM.
Impressed by your video... thanks! I will hire someone to install ours, but I love how you narrate and film the steps with plenty of tips. 😎🙏
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
From what I understand the door springs are always active so I suggest you install the deadbolt. The only time you have the doors full weight is if the springs break. Also insulate your door to help the noise or replace/Lube hinges/rollers
Unless the emergency rope is pulled, the gears are engaged and the shaft will not turn. I tried.
@@handydadtv that’s good to hear
@@handydadtv This is correct. The reason for the deadbolt is to prevent someone from breaking the window close to the opener and pulling the manual lease rope.
Ah!! Thanks for that!
The lock is to prevent someone from brute forcing the door open, Overhead openers actually pull/push the door and once it's down it's "locked", the side mount could be hulked open technically
I really like the idea of having the wi-fi connection to be able to make sure the door is closed after leaving the house!
And I never wake up to the find the door was open all night!
Just found a solution for my garage golf simulator! I will be getting one of these so I can put my projector where the opener is. Thanks!
That’s a good use-case I didn’t think of!
Me too. Chamberlain calls it a “jack shaft” opener. Did it myself in a day. Very quiet too.
My car is a 2004 and they changed the HomeLink protocol a few years later. Got an extra $35 unit to let my older protocol bridge to the opener. Works with a slight delay.
Also, no center rail so more overhead storage.
Thanks for sharing
Nice! I’m going to do my research on this model. I like the idea of creating more overhead space in my garage. Great presentation!
Thanks so much 😊
Check out the video on my channel if your researching jackshaft openers. I just installed one on my house.
We got one from Lowes - I installed it with my brother. At first it wouldn’t work - played with it - eventually after talking with tech support, got a little better,but still not working - I had 2 other garage doors replaced & the installer looked at it stated binding in the tracks - lubed it & adjusted - now works awesome. On a 10x10 garage door.
Mine was binding at first because of those spacers. I needed to move one of the tracks by 1/2” and all is good now.
My door was noisy, and found I needed to lube the center bearing between the springs. Now it makes so little noise, I can’t hear it opening or closing.
@@robertheinkel6225 A huge amount of peoples "noise" problem can be solved with a good application of a can of commercial garage door lubricant (any hardware store) on the moving parts. Giving the spring itself a good spray can also help.
I like this solution - I too use storage above my garage that precludes me from having a door opener on one side. This would solve my issue and agree it would be much quieter - Seems like whenever the garage door is opened or closed its loud enough to inform everyone in the house.
That happened with every house I’ve owned. They all had overhead openers.
Use Garage Door Lube to lubricate thoroughly lube your tension springs, roller pins (not the track) and all the door hinges and your door will virtually be silent. Also take a socket and make sure all your hinge hardware is tight.
Thanks 😊
Great buy. You can oil your rollers and track to quiet to door when opening and closing.
Yes I do. Thanks.
Glad i found this. My old unit trys to bend the top panel everytime i close it via the motor. Thanks for uploading
Yeah that’s not good.
Definitely prefer the wall mounted opener compared to my GENIE (24 yrs old and still working without a hitch) ceiling mount. If ever I need to replace it I’ll be switching to this system. Thanks for the video, nicely done.
24 years!! Let’s hope my new one lasts half as long.
@@handydadtv I was just talking to our garage door installer (I’m re-placing both doors and openers) a few days ago and he said the new Genie’s are coming out of Red China and their junk. He said he installed 3 of them at a clients home and 2 weeks later he had to go back and repair 2 of them. Hopefully you have better luck with yours.
It’s been about six weeks so far. Fingers crossed 🤞🏻
I have one of these for my 1 car garage. since I got it setup for a high lift. Pro said that the side mounts can be a real pain. you have to have a separate locking bolt since you could just raise it. the only time you should look at one of these is if its a one car garage door. they suck for 2 car garage doors cause they are so heavy.
If the springs are set correctly, the motor shouldn’t feel the weight. Mine is working fine so far.
@@handydadtv just telling ya, this is a pro been doing this for decades. one the pressure is not balanced on top on the bar. its got to come in the side. two its a pain to adjust and keep working. I have had no issues with mine yet but I could totally see on a two car having this just not work for long. Anyone reading this, no one gets a side mount opener unless you have to. like I did so I could get a car lift under the door while opened.
I just put mine in. Love it! Super quiet
Awesome! Enjoy it.
I'm a professional garage door technician I've installed both the LiftMaster and the genie do yourself a favor purchased either the LiftMaster or the Chamberlain unit much better quality!
Thanks for the tip
Darn! I didn't know there was such a thing, and I just got a new ceiling unit! Next time. And, by the way, you are very clever, and I hope your wife appreciates you.
She does 🥰
Cool setup think I'll give that a try when our old ones go out.
Thanks
My wife has wanted one of these for a long time. Our garage has really low ceilings so we can not install any other type of garage door opener. One day Ill be able to get one of theses.
It’s a good solution if you have low overhead.
They are not to be installed on low headroom
You just sold them 2 units, thanks so much for sharing!
Thanks 😊
My Daughter and Son in law have one of these on each of their garage doors. They were installed with new garage doors by a professional garage door company. I believe It is a chamberland it has the cable slack levers. I have been over to their house numerous times to rewind the cables due to the door opener being activated while the car was in the door opening. (grand kids lol)
While there was no serious damage to the door, car or opener I have definitely decided I won't be installing these units on my doors.
Also there is the issue that the door tension spring has to be biased to allow the door to come down and not be balanced. Which in my opinion is an unsafe condition because when you pull the release cord to operate the door manually the door automatically wants to come down. Those two things are what are keeping me from purchasing this unit.
I didn’t touch the spring and mine works fine.
Never trust a professional garage door company entirely. They often show up, get the job done as quickly as possible then leave. They can do a shotty job. Regardless of which garage door opener is installed, if you pull the release cord, it should not want to come down. The door should be sticky at any point as you pull it up or down then let go of your hand. If it doesn't stay when you let go of your hand, then the spring or springs need to be adjusted. I would have someone knowledgeable check the installation before a serious accident happens.
That is a poor install . You do need the Correct track set up the reason for the spring and cable issue is installers that’s think less tension will help the door come down easier causing cable slack
I am on my second belt drive Genie opener. First one was hit by lightning. Easy to install and adjust.
There seem to be a lot of Genie haters, but I’ve always had good luck with them.
I have a liftmaster on the 12x12 door in my Barndominium. Had it for close to 20 years only having to once replace the motherboard. Remotes for Liftmaster tend to not be as supported as the one Genie use. Thinking of adding a second one to put on my door on the other side of the building and glad I now have a choice.
Thanks
I bought a house that has a car detached garage but there was only 1 door with an opener. the closest door to the house had a Lift Master opener with a chain drive there was nothing for the other side. on Black Friday the local Home Depot had a Genie that came with 2 remotes, and it had a built in light 3/4 hp belt drive and a battery powered keypad and the safety openers. with wifi for $75.00 so i bought 1 and installed it. I couldn't believe how quiet it was. I liked it so much the following year on Black Friday they had a similar one that had a wall mount button but also had battery backup, so i grabbed one and replaced the Lift Master $85.00 and now the 2 doors open nice and quiet. So, both doors for $160.00 and they have worked flawlessly.
Thanks for sharing
That left torsion cable is freying. Youre going to have an out of level door soon with a gap on the bottom. Ive done doors for 24yrs & that genie jackshaft is a good unit. Its pretty close to the liftmaster version. The liftmaster has a cable tensioner that is better. If the door starts down & slack is thrown into the cable, it stop & reverses back open. Its just a fail-safe to prevent cables from being thrown off drums & having a racked door. Nice install my friend👍👍👍[edit] love that tesla too
Thanks! Do the cables get replaced in pairs?
@@handydadtv Always.
The genie operates in the same manner...and won't even start to go down if the cable tension is improper.
Great stuff, glad to know I too can install it myself!
Yes you can!
I have a lift master unit. A little older s as no Wi-Fi but got the Wi-Fi bridge which works great. The MyQ app is pretty good and works with Alexa /amazon delivery. I have the battery and deadbolt so feel pretty safe. The unit is quiet and I like how it slows down when closing instead of slamming into floor.
Thanks for sharing
Well, that was a completely outstanding video - Thank You Very Much for creating this content. Time for me to DIY my shop garage door and enjoy the automation!
Thanks so much 😊
When I was younger, my family's chain driven unit conked out and my dad replaced it with an overhead unit that had a threaded shaft instead of a chain. I thought that thing was SO quiet compared to the chain system. Then years later I was working as a house painter, and some lady had what must have been one of the earliest wall mounted lifts like in this video. It was practically silent! Like literally silent. I don't know what brand it was, but it was WAY quieter than this Genie, but I'm sure the Genies are pretty quiet compared to any overhead unit.
I haven’t seen a screw drive since I was a kid!
Master make one too
Amazing had no idea this exist, added to the my house project list
And that’s probably why they’re more expensive. Nobody knows about them so they don’t sell as many.
still have an original I-drive unit once you use this type of shaft torque system you wont go back ! The overhead space is so nice 👍
Thanks for the info
Good video. As a Garage door installer I give you a 9 out a 10 installation and that only because I saw that the left side take up cable need to be replace. I recommend to replace both (by a professional) never touch those springs you can lose a limp in a blind of a eye. Be save
Thanks. You’re not the first to notice that cable.
@@handydadtv Haha I did it for so long that my eyes can't pass it 😅.
Great video will be getting one next week. My old opener got to be 90 plus noise.
Mine’s still working great.
Always good to know what options are out there!
Thanks
Just took down a brand new Genie 6172H that was glitchy from the get-go. They also put out a constant, annoying transformer hum which the Genie help line says is completely normal. Replaced it with a Liftmaster 8500w and am much happier with it across the board, including the app.
The only glitchy thing on mine is the Bluetooth remote. It stops working every few months and I need to pop out a battery to cycle power. Then it’s fine.
@@handydadtv How's the transformer noise level on yours? Maybe I got a bad one.
No noise at all
I've had to replace two garage door openers in my life so far, and both times I went with a wall mount unit. I'm never going back to overhead units.
Good to hear! Thanks.
Thanks, I’m going to put a lift into my home and your purchase evaluations and install guide was very helpful
My pleasure
The wall mount is very quiet with soft stop. It leaves center free and clear
Yes I love it and would buy it again.
As a professional garage door installer I cannot tell you my honest opinion, but I can recommend you install the electric lock since you just told everybody you didn't and you have windows. Someone can simply pop a window and reach over to the emergency release to gain access. Installing that lock will make sure that never happens. Make sure the lock is low enough that they can't reach it. 😉 I have installed countless of both brands.
I'm a professional garage door technician also and I always recommend LiftMaster or Chamberlain over a genie any day
@@frankpropri540 When I was a young guy in the business I use to do that. But as time has aged me in this business I have seen both brands last incredible lengths of time. Some of the oldest ones I have come across have been the old Genie screw drives, way before sensors. Now I just try and ask what people want or expect out of a garage door opener and help to get them what best suits them. As the two brands continue to develop new products each is coming up with innovative ideas and Genie has really put their focus on ease of installation. Liftmaster has been a leader on feature options. I used to train people on I-drives and Wayne-dalton products and never thought those units would last, but to my own amazement some are still out there after 20 years. I even ran across a torque master spring system the other day that was still working after 24 years, all original, blew my mind.
Thanks for the feedback!
I've installed two chamberlains and am going to install one more!
Nice!
Holy cow that door squeals! I bet if you sprayed some $5 garage door lube on those wheels and tracks once in a while you’d quiet it down another 20 db lol
I replaced the rollers and lubed the hinges too. Thanks.
pretty cool, definitely worth it if you are in the market
I agree
Good stuff. I'll need to look at these a little more before committing. Besides, I'll have to convince the wife of yet another of my investment ideas. She's already talking about storage systems on the ceiling. So, this could possibly work. hehe. Thanks for the video.
It’s a good solution if you can take advantage of the height in your garage.
At my old house I replaced a noise chaindrive door opener with a Belt drive Genie. Was fantastic, my only issue (and one I hated, which is why I probably won't get another Genie) is that with the door open crossing the beam didn't turn the overhead light on. It makes the garage too dark when out with small children, a dog, or it getting late out while hanging outside. My new house has a genie, and same thing, this one's worse though, not only does crossing the beam do nothing, if you press the light button on the pad, it will not go back out. I found this out when I pressed the light to grab a beer one night, about 3 hours later I went to grab another and the light was still on.
I'll probably be getting the direct drive chamberlain or liftmaster, unless the genie finally added the beam crossing light feature.
I know what you mean. That’s a good feature. Mine doesn’t have it either.
Thanks you got a new sub here. I was in the market for a new garage door opener and I was doing some research and happened to picked your video. I guess it's a win win situation both ways, you got a new sub here, and I'm ordering a Genie to replace my old 15yr Craftsman opener..thanks for sharing.
Thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the family!
Thanks for the review. I've got a Model Y also and hate the arm on the garage door that can ram into the open rear hatch. For this alone, the wall-mount unit would be worth it. One mistake would cost more in Model Y repairs than this opener!
My first dent was the tailgate in the garage. th-cam.com/video/j_W4XF9V1Mk/w-d-xo.html
Cool video!!! I've been watching and learning cool new ideas for many years, so I'm a fan of your channel. This one is really cool, and I would definitely consider using this if/when mine needs to be replaced. Anyway, I just would like to know if there's any chance you could do maybe like a one-year update to see how its holding up. How long have you been using it??? THANKS FOR THE CONTENT!
Ask me again in a year 😉
Nice video. How is it operating 1 year later. Another question that I have is , would I be able to operate it without Wi-Fi, as I would need o e at my cottage that doesn't have internet.
@donroy9968 Great opener even after a year. My only complaint is the Bluetooth wall remote occasionally needs to be reset by removing/reinserting the battery. Maybe every 2 months or so.
The genie is the best wall mount operator for garage doors out there right now residential wise. It is not recommended to install them like you did on your specific setup of garage door. They should really be used in a high lift configuration not a standard track like you have at your house. Unless your door works absolutely flawlessly it will give you problems over time. It will throw the cables the door will get sideways and almost fall out of the tracks. We repair those every single day around here. Like I said they are great but they have a specific application that they are designed to be working with.
Is there any literature or studies to support this claim? Because all the brands say they work on normal height doors like mine.
@@handydadtv it’s like a bare minimum code . Yes they can work but they work best on at least 15 inch radius track or high lift ask any professional company and they will tell you it’s nothing but issues
Great video. I was looking for options for my auxiliary 8' door on my RV garage and this seems to be the answer. It also looks easy enough to install myself. Thanks for sharing.
It’s a really good solution for tall doors.
@@handydadtv This is actually the 8' rollup that is in the back of the RV garage. I currently don't have anything on there, so I open it manually.
I am envious. My outlet is by the old style and broken overhead unit.
You can use an extension cord in a pinch, but you’ll need a permanent outlet before selling the house. It will get flagged in every home inspection.
Very cool. Not in the market for an opener- however you never know. Lol.
I wasn’t either. Until mine started flaking out on me.
This look very interesting to me Thank you for the video. My plan is to get the wall mounted version
Glad it was helpful
Great review. I still prefer the overhead belt driven by Chamberlain with battery. I’ve installed 3 of them by myself; just use a 2nd ladder or shelf/stacked totes to support the other end. I had a Genie many years ago, and always felt their design & tech elements were lacking which may have changed over the years.
Thanks
Helpful shown-n-tell. The quieter operation would be a big deal for me. One of my dogs can hear stuff 5 states away......love him, but drives me nuts. :-)
If it’s quiet in the house, our dog will hear it open. But not if the TV is on.
I believe you said your door is quite heavy, went on manual mode? If so, it’s best to replace your springs. One because the springs might be old already or two they installed the wrong springs. You should be able to lift the door with one hand only. And also see from the video that the wires for the door for sure need replacement. The last thing you want is for them to snap and now you got yourself a leaning garage door with the bent corner. Just some tips 👍🏼
Thanks. New springs and cables are on the to-do list.
Will definitely feel the difference
Yes they are quite super quiet 🇩🇰
Thanks
I installed this garage door opener about one year ago...and agree it's very quiet, frees ceiling space, and performs wonderfully. My ONLY complaint is with the two spring brackets that are installed on the lower rollers and attached to the cables of the doors. These spring brackets (which assure proper cable tension during closing) are buggy and often get jammed while the door is in the up position and keep the door from closing. Attempts at reshaping the arms and the use of spacers have yielded varied results but have not solved this issue. I can not trust the door to close properly and have to double-check it all the time. This aspect of this otherwise wonderful opener should be re-engineered for a better solution.
Interesting. You would think a simple spring would be a better solution than a cable sensor. Now I’m not so sure.
@@handydadtv In concept...I agree. But the reality is that garage doors...specifically the lower cable attachment bracket, and the spaces (tolerances) involved vary considerably by age, usage, installation, rail types, etc....and this challenges the spring design and shape, and its ability to perform.
It's frustrating that a tiny and inexpensive component can render an otherwise wonderful opener inoperable.
As a professional garage door installer, I have brought this up to Genie. Some brands of garage door tracks are not as tight where they meet as they should be. This allows for a small window where that cable tension spring can get caught right in-between. Once that happens it will jam up the garage door and cause problems. I will remove these entirely if the door is properly balanced and rolls perfect in my eyes. I am not telling you to take yours off, but you might want to have a professional look at it first. The engineers put a lot of work in developing this stuff to work right but they don't test every brand of door nor can they test every scenario.
@@followerofgod7935 Thanks. Good advice. Yes, I have talked with Genie a number of times over the phone and, although they were quite friendly, I didn't get a good solution. I've considered removing the springs...my door is well balanced but I fear having the cable loose when closing and then not functioning properly.
@@jeffw8057 If the cable tensioning springs are causing the problem.....then remove the problem. 😉 The homes that we have removed them on are still working just fine. 😊
After having a bad experience with the Chamberlain type cable sensor this idea does make more sense but the idea that you are relying on the weight of the door to close it is a major flaw. Never mind the locking aspect. If you need to open your door manually for any reason like lift malfunction or power outage you are pretty much screwed especially if you are a smaller person like my wife. I had the other type sensor which was so bad that I returned it but this is only slightly better assuming it works flawlessly all the time. Ill buy one when they rethink the entire drive system and dont rely on gravity to bring the door down.
Buyer be ware!
I’ve not had any issue with mine.
@@handydadtv have you tried to release the drive and open it manually? What would happen if you released it when its raised? I wouldnt want to stand under it.
@berniestarzewski5482 I have used it manually and it doesn’t fall on it’s own. I don’t know how the vibration gets it to come down. It’s magic.
If the door is balanced properly, meaning, it will want to close, you will never have the motor out-run the springs and cause slack in the cables. This is why I like the type of opener that starts slowly, then speeds up.
Thanks for the info
Thanks for the info!
My pleasure!
I need one of these now
Sorry 😉
Just bought the 6172 h-bo with battery backup.
Cool! You’ll like it.
Thanks for making this video, it helped a lot!
Glad it was helpful 👍🏻
This guy is like the final boss of dads
Thanks 😊
Good info.
Just what we need.
Glad it was helpful
EXCELLENT video!
Thanks so much 😊
This was really well explained.
Thanks 😊
Great video. thank you.
My pleasure
Miss those cub cadet mowing videos !
The Cub is still going strong at my daughter’s house! I mowed there on Friday. Great machine.
I'd love to ditch the overhead track, but I have an extension spring setup, although I love that my springs have held up for >25 years.
2:42 That cable is looking ragged.
Thanks
Call a local garage door repair place. Your door can be converted to a torsion spring.
It's nice that this Genie doesn't need a cable tension monitor but the cable keeper is an extra piece to install (two pieces actually). Does the Chamberlain require a "cable keeper"?
Not to my knowledge
Informative. 🤔. New home coming along s l o w l y but will be needing an opener. It looks like a good one but power outlets are not that close to door opening. 😮
That is an issue.
It looks like the bottom of your left lift cable is starting to fray. Make sure to take off spring tension before replacing both
Good eye! Yes I had it replaced.