Finally a SILENT Garage Door Opener that locks like a SAFE! - RJ0101
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- Tired of LOUD, easy to break in (coat hanger trick) garage doors? No more! Here I install the latest JACKSHAFT opener that's easier to install & the most secure you can get, all while being nearly silent. About as perfect as a garage door opener can be.
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How to install the Chamberlain RJ0101 Jackshaft Opener - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
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One correction: I called the app OnQ, it is called MyQ!
Excellent! Thank you,!
This is exactly what I'm looking for...
Installed one of these in early 2019 and love it.
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We have had this side mount liftmaster on our garage door for about 7 years. It probably has a life time of use on it already as we used it to let our dog out for all those years.
I have two of these hateful things. The jackshaft only pulls the door up, it doesn't push it down. It only allows the door to 'fall' in controlled fashion. That might seem an insignificant distinction but it's important to understand because if the door is fully open (horizontal), there's not enough weight to pull the door down. You have to adjust the door so that part of the lowest section is near vertical so it can pull the rest of the door down. In my case, the door won't "fall" closed unless I adjust the limits so the door blocks about 1' from the top of my garage door opening. I need the full 10' of my opening so this doesn't work for me. As such, I have to have a plunger spring that pushes the door down until it can fall on its own which defeats the purpose of not having something on your ceiling.
Additionally, when the seasons change from summer to winter or back, all the tension settings are wrong and the door won't open or close correctly and I have to get out a ladder and re-set the tensions. We get Chinook's here so even during the winter, I have to re-set the tensions before/after.
My overhead door guy installed it despite recommending against it. Now I wish I'd listened to him. I want my garage doors to be reliable, I don't want to get out of my vehicle to manually intervene. These (Liftmaster 8500) don't meet that requirement.
Super Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your input on these. I need to do more research to see if this is the right solution for me...
Thanks for saving us the inconvenience.
Have you considered slightly angling up the rails so the garage door is never fully horizontal?
@@TheCarpenterUnion Every change affects the whole system in a different way. Changing that angle will make it harder for the motor to pull the door uphill when the door is nearing full 'up' and that will also be when there's the least tension in the spring which will mean increasing spring tension to compensate and then we're back to the same problem.
In the 3 years I've had these doors, I've learned a lot about the many different variables that affect them with this opener. I even thought maybe my overhead door guy was part of the problem so I had an old guy from a different company come out. He looked at my install and said it was done well and that this is just the nature of the beast. One option he gave me was to raise the rails up near the ceiling and add an additional panel. But the geometry of my garage means that I'd have to change my lighting to be flush with the drywall.
use threadlock on the square bolts. they tend to come loose and will just spin on the tension rod. after using threadlock had no problems.
Was wondering if this would be an issue. Thanks for the suggestion
Could you just drill a hole in the tension rod to receive the bolt so slippage would be impossible?
@rll1971 Possible, but I would worry about denting or damaging the tension rod...Thread lock will work fine. been about a year since I used and no problems.@@rll1971
Excellent suggestion and thank you. Looking at upgrading my opener to this one.
@@rll1971NO. I am a professional. And that will cause the tube to sheer.
A very good friend is an Overhead dealer for 35+ years and i help on installs at times. He has brought up points about these , but are doable.
The best pointer from him is this, typical torsion springs are a 10,000 cycle spring, about a 7 years normal life. You should ask for a 30,000 cycle ( approximately) replacement cycle spring!!! It's a 10-20 percent upcharge but it's the same labor for 3x the lifespan.
He measured my broken spring, looked on a chart to see it's replacement ( they are longer) double checked if it could fit and we installed them.
Oh, more hints, 1 turn on the torsion spring for every 1 foot of garage height. 8' high door, 8 turns as a general guide to get started!!
Do double check spring balancing, disconnect opener, open door half way and let go. It should stay there if it's correct, adjust accordingly!
Oil your torsion spring yearly. Rust makes the spring brittle and breaks prematurely!
Most of the noise from the average garage door is NOT the opener... it's the door. My Martin door and opener are very quiet. That said, this new type is the way to go!
All you have to do is disconnect the door an raise/lower it by hand and run the motor without the door attached to figure out where the most noise is coming from. Won’t be quite the same with no load but close enough.
This makes so much more sense! Remove the transmission section and direct drive the shaft, simplicity is the hallmark of good engineering.
This style is common in commercial applications. Chamberlain is the "residential" unit, Lift Master is the "commercial" units. Same company. I've installed both and frankly, the differences are small if any. Both are great units!
Honestly I doubt there's any equipment or component difference between them. They're the same thing where Chamberlain is sold retail, and LiftMaster is sold wholesale to garage door installers.
I have three, 22 year old, belt drive Lift Masters in 2 properties. Love them. The only noise is from the metal rollers rattling. I wonder how long they'll last? Workhorses.
The difference on a regular opener is the motor's track, on Chamberlain (DIY) the track comes in 3 pieces, LiftMaster's track comes in 1 long piece, better/smoother on heavier doors.
Because the track is so long, you'll not see it in DIY stores.
@@VanillaIceCoffee Very interesting, thanks! The actual motor units are identical, though, right?
@@aaron74 maybe the board is different, the liftmaster has plugs for the locks, it depends of the model
The opener has been in my grandfather's garage since 2019. Good to see it get recognition.
When I was in the market for a new garage door opener, I wanted to get that type of opener until I saw the price. The price is a lot more than a regular opener. I eventually settled on the Genie screw drive opener like I had previously because it was very reliable (first one lasted 16 years).
Our current home had no garage door openers, but also finished cathedral ceilings. I discovered one of these garage door openers by accident - and am super glad I bought and installed it. As you stated: easier, quieter, and more secure!
This is what should replace every door opener on the planet. Pure genius. About time.
I’m so happy I put this one in 3 years ago. So quiet.
I have a two door garage. The two jack shafts were nearly perfectly positioned to allow one opener to operate both doors. Works perfectly! A huge improvement over the old openers.
Cool, but does your setup require you to always open and close the doors together?
@@j12997967 Absolutely. One less thing to think about. Push the button, and the garage is fully accessible.
Very handy for the Tesla. When I summon it out of the garage, it looks to see if the garage is closed, opens the garage and waits for me in the driveway. It works the same no matter which slot it is parked in.
@@j12997967 I have the same question
I have had two of these for about 4 years. They are everything that he is saying. Such a game changer.
Awesome opener, I have same one in liftmaster variant (same exact thing) for years now. Love it. Mines came w/ battery back up so when power goes out you get to open and close the garage way over ten times. Best opener i have ever owned. Everyone I recommend to ends up loving it as well. I paired mine up with super quiet rollers & polymer hinges, you literally cannot hear my door opening or closing, its scary how quiet a garage door can be. Great Video.
I love these videos, straight to the point and informative, no walking around shooting selfies and annoying intro's. THANK YOU!!
Mines 22 years old and I’m holding my breath. Really enjoyed the video Chris and think I will step up my game. Always enjoy your thorough and thoughtful videos!
Had one installed 10 years ago. Awesome piece of kit. Zero issues.
I bought 2 of these recently for my new shop to put up after I get the electrical finished. I didn't realize how easy they were going to be to put up so I'm not dreading that process anymore! I may put one up this weekend on one of the doors to make closing up easier.
We built in 16’ and had the garage door company install the Chamberlain 8500 opener, basically the same setup you have with a Jack shaft. The security lock feature has been fantastic and it’s absolutely quite raising and lowering. We had to buy the MyQ hub separately but it’s WIFi and really has been a great addition as we’ve been able to open the doors for family members who dropped by unexpectedly while we were away from home. Great tutorial, thanks for sharing. If able to spend the extra few dollars I’d highly recommend this setup.
Just finished installing this unit because the previous one stopped working a few days ago. Thanks the recommendation and insightful video!
We just built a new house and specced one of these units. It's a game changer. So quiet and saves so much space conpared to the old school track style. Highly recommended
Look into using Green Hinges for your garage door as it will help seal that gap between the door and weather seals
Suggestion for garage door opener - put an electrical shut off for the garage door opener(s) on the wall near the opener because after having lightining strike and blow out both garage door openers, I put in an wall switch that shuts all electricity off to the garage so no more dead garage door openers after a bad electrical storm.
I use an inline surge suppressor and a recept with built in surge to protect the opener electronics
This! I built my home about 24 years ago when we were at the tail end of flyover aircraft being able to emit RF signals that could trip a door opener. I wanted the full cutoff in house for that reason alone but also to prevent any outside cars with openers from being able to provide a thief access to my garage or home. Electrician and my builder thought I was nuts until I explained why, then *he* started doing it...
@@DIYDaveOKMost openers now have a rolling code that makes it very difficult for others to open
I have absolutely no need for a garage door opener, but these videos are always so interesting!
I really appreciate it, so glad you like them
@@SilverCymbal I am shocked your videos have so many views, but you still don't have 1M subs.. They are missing out!
I installed two of these on my new garage. Worth every penny, and I also installed the security cameras which are fantastic!
Woah. Game changer. I gotta get an opener like this! Dude my wife is going to be so pissed off that you added another project onto my to-do list.
I've had the LiftMaster ones on both my large garage doors since 2010. They are absolutely not silent. They're much quieter than overhead garage door openers but there are still the sounds of the actual door itself opening and closing. Also, as others have pointed out, there are issues with the tension which causes the doors to pop back up often and in the 13 years I've had it I've had to replace three springs.
I got one of these 4 years ago while rebuilding our home after a house fire... I really love the quiet opening and clear overhead space... This opener really makes a lot more sense... Nice elegant solution
The other nice thing is mine came with battery backup. Looks like my model is almost the same as in he video, but in the bottom compartment has a space for the battery backup. Superhelpful if you come home during a power outage.
This unit rocks, have had several noisy overhead units with plastic parts over the years that maybe last 5-6 years. I have had this unit for over 15 years, yes it pricey but well worth the money, and oh so quiet, and not one single problem.
Wait, you ve had this type of opener for 15 yrs??? I thought this was a new product??? Ive never seen this before ??
Love it!🥰. Installed a Chamberlain door opener last year when we closed. Belt driven and quite as a snow flake😊
I have been wanting to switch to this type of garage door opener for awhile now after seeing one at a house one time. I absolutely hate the old style openers, how loud they are and all the room in the middle you lose.
As an overhead door tech, stick with the rail style. These side mounted operators are great if your door has any amount of high lift but for a traditional door, stay with the rail, you WILL regret a change to this type.
I had one for years, and will be installing another on a new garage this week. They’re just so luxurious feeling, and they work great!
@@tenflat2009why will they regret it?
Everyone else in this comment section has a positive opinion about them. So what exactly is your concern with them?
I’ve had these on my garage doors for 5 years now with no problems. While they are more expensive than the common rail style opener they are soooooo quiet and provide added/automatic locking security and so easy to manage and operate either manually or via internet. They eliminate a lot of overhead clutter of guides and chains/belts. Only real downside of being able to use these is you need a minimum of 9/10” to mount opener on lift rod and a power source near each opener. 🇨🇦👍
Perhaps you should just abandon the old style opener if you hate it so much
I’ve had mine for more than 6 yrs,it has battery backup to open in a power failure,Love it! I also installed dual dead bolts.
I wondered about 2 dead bolts. No one is getting in your place unless they drive a tank through the door!
@@SilverCymbal Why was there a sharp needle bin in one of the shots?
Amazing timing. I was looking at replacing my old jack shaft (8500) with a celing version. However, i may consider just upgrading to the one you showed. It seems like a diy job.
Have had a Liftmaster ceiling mount belt-drive unit for a few years. It's dead silent and includes a battery backup. The Internet-connected features have become indispensable. Currently working on a remodel of the garage and plan to add 3 more openers from the Liftmaster / Chamberlain family. Looking forward to the jackshaft / wallmount units for my high-rise / high-clearance doors.
I’ve had a Liftmaster version since 2019. It’s been awesome! We have living space, a bedroom, above our garage and the door opens and closes whisper quiet. I would highly recommend these types of garage door openers.
This has been in my Amazon cart for months, happy to see this!
You find the coolest things! This is for sure what I’m installing when my Garage door opener dies. ❤🤘
Why on Earth does any other type of opener even exist? This makes so much sense. This is just an example of everyone taking a design for granted.
I replaced the wheels on my garage with quiet poly wheels and it made it even more quieter. My system is belt vs chain and it’s just as quiet. However, i do like that this system gives you more ceiling space. If my opener ever dies, I will definitely replace it with this system.
We replaced an old chain drive overhead opener with a new LiftMaster model like this and we're very pleased with it. Now at almost a year of use, we still love it. It operates so quietly and smooth, and the deadbolt lock has worked very well. No problems at all with it.
That autumn view at the start when your garage opened was beautiful
Thank you. New Hampshire is really beautiful in the fall. Winters are not easy but the spring and fall keep us going
The wireless light is genius since most people will be replacing a traditional opener and have an outlet sitting in the middle of the garage where the original opener was!
Yep, agree 100%. Have had one for about 15/20 years and love it.
Have been using these for a couple of years and mostly love them. Our single car garage opener does have some issues. Since the door isn't heavy the cable tensioning system sometimes gets less taught with temperature changes. This causes the tension safety device to think the door has hit something while closing and the door raises back up. After some tinkering around we adjusted the door to stop just before it touches the ground thereby keeping the tension cable as tight as possible. Time will tell! ALso the light we have is programmed to both doors thereby only needing on light! Bravo!
Get yourself a Genie 6170-HB. Cable tension is built into the operation of the door instead of a separate system - it adjusts lifting force every time it opens to accommodate temperature changes and all that.
you may need to adjust your spring tension because most garage doors are pretty darn heavy without any spring assist. I find that most doors are not set properly where they balance on their own if you manually raise it about half way. Most drop like a rock or roll upwards because there is too much or too little tension on the springs.
@@jayjay6117 No, in our case we set the garage door up in winter. Then in summer the door is larger, which causes the door to contact the floor just slightly and in turn slacks the cable ever so slightly as to trip the safety. So we reset the close to be just above the floor. Does not seal completely but works for us. Our 2 car door does not have this issue.
I installed the Wayne Dalton I-drive on my 16 foot door 20 years ago. It works the same way. Has never failed.
I had my contractor install the Liftmaster version this opener on both my garage doors when I built my current home. One of them is lifting a 14' x 14' door on my attached RV bay. Super quiet and low maintenance. They can be connected via wifi to your smart home setup so you can control them from your phone even when you are away from home. Very handy if you need to give someone access while you are on vacation. The app even shows whether the door is opened or closed so you never have to worry about if you remembered to close the door. The electronic deadbolt makes it impossible to open the door from outside. You can also add a battery backup for use when power is out.
This is exactly what I've been looking for. Thanks again for your great videos.
Once again, I'm so glad I watch your videos. I had no idea this was a thing. I want to replace my garage door, but I've hesitated because I thought I had to do the whole thing with the springs which I heard was a PIA. this way, I can totally see me doing it myself, by just laying in new panels in the track and using this method to open/close it. Thank you!
you still need to use the springs
Looking at putting a lift inside my garage to make it easier to work on my cars. This will solve the problem of having the opener in the way. Perfect!
Had mine for years, love it!
I've had a liftmaster 8500W since just after it came out - it's fantastic and I highly recommend it (plus it's super easy to install)! I only have one complaint, I really would like to find a way to quiet down the solenoid for the deadbolt/lock, the opener is so quiet and then "bam'! Overall though it's a 9/10.
I um.. removed the noise maker from the circuit board. Not as elegant as quieting it down, but it is very quiet now :)
@@EricBorgen There is no noise maker on the circuit board. The question is of a solenoid driving a deadbolt through the track - is there a way to slow that down or cushion it so it's not so jarring.
@@seanmcne sorry - I was reading too quickly! (I think my wall mount remote had a piezo beeper that I disabled though)
I couldn’t agree with this more. The deadbolt lock was very loud! Thankfully mine quieted itself down by breaking and I just haven’t seen the need to replace it yet 😂
I had a chain drive Chamberlain garage door opener, 20 years ago. The drive gear wore out. When I called them to see if they would send me a parts list so I could order a new part, they wanted to charge me for it. I’ve been with Genie ever since. Maybe they’ve changed, but they lost a customer for life over that incident.
I''ll be installing mine tomorrow. New outlet got wired up today. This should be fun.
I upgraded 1 of our 2 doors with one of these (not a chamberlain but competitor) to accommodate a high lift garage door. These wall mounts are so much better I wish I did it to the other door at the same time.
I have two of these, the older ones with the tensioner. I love them but I have to say the tensioner has been a pain, very sensitive. Great that they removed it from the new model. They work with my Amazon Echo and there is a phone app. Lots of customization. The best feature is the door closes automatically if you forget and you can set a schedule to close at a certain time if you turn off the auto close.
Unfortunately Chamberlain/LiftMaster has removed Alexa support from their "MyQ" ecosystem. I think the Genie Aladdin connect still works with smart devices such as Alexa and Google Home. I just moved and I'm about ready to rip out the MyQ here and move back to the Aladdin setup...
Ha! I installed that exact model in my garage today. Sooo much quieter and so much extra free space.
I love watching your videos. You always teach me something new about products. Keep up the Great Work.
As always, a helpful video and a great option, but what I'd love are a well-insulated version of the roll-up doors in warehouses and commercial garages, that free up the *entire* ceiling.
$$$$$$
Wow that thing is really quiet!
I got it for the ceiling issues, but the noise level is amazing. Definitely good if you have a bedroom above and the garage is used a lot
The 98022 is so nice. It’s incredibly quiet and opens and closes so much faster than my old chain drive. I installed a Ratgdo to integrate it with HomeAssistant and avoid MyQ.
That was an excellent garage door opener. It the same like a commercial ones we have at the shop. Very good.
Keep up the awesome work you do
So nice. By far the best one ive seen so far
These are great. I’ve had them for several years. The best.
Chamberlan does make the best consumer grade openers, in my opinion. I have one of their belt drive units that is still going after 24 years without missing a beat and is actually pretty quiet. If it ever dies I will probably upgrade to this model.
Now I know what I’ll be doing when time comes for my garage door opener.
Nice opener. Only critique I have is that it really doesn't give you more storage space considering the tracks still run horizontally and are bracketed to the ceiling for support.
It does open up the space above the door itself, but yeah, that's not a ton...
Excellent review - very informative! Looks like a great concept.
Thanks, that was very interesting. For me personally noise is not an issue. But what I want next time is a garage opener with a build in battery that still works in case of an power outage.
Facts. Being when the power goes out accessing the garage becomes impossible.
@@actionanimations4879 The Chamberlain B970C or B970T for example has a build in battery
In some states, a battery backup for a garage door opener is already mandatory.
@@DIYDaveOK Wow, did not know that. Not here in Nova Scotia, Canada atm. Cheers
They have battery backup's for this opener.
I bought one of these last summer but never installed it as I had surgery and then the neighbor who was going to help me had surgery. I went to work on it last spring and found out the covered box on the wall that had power coming into it was just the low voltage lines for the sensor, so I have been postponing running power to the front wall. Guess you've inspired me to pull the wire this weekend. Thanks! Now where canI find Romex that won't break the bank? LOL
Oh, this is nice, and it is timely! Thanks!
Very cool, great explanation as always
I installed one of these and liked it so much I installed it on my other door too. My house was only 5 years old and the old openers were fine but I wanted a cleaner look and yes… these are way quieter than any other openers. But you will hear a clunk at the end when the dead bolt locks in. When I moved into my house, my drywall wasn’t completed in my garage so before I had it finished, I ran a new electrical outlet where the new opener was going to be mounted. I don’t even worry about anybody breaking into my garage. 99.9% of the time if somebody was to attempt to break into your garage they’re gonna think that the garage door opener is mounted in the center of the garage door and they’re gonna be looking for the red cord in the middle of your garage door Not to the side.
Glad I stumbled onto this video. This is exactly the type of opener I need. Thanks!
I love mine. I have a 4 post car lift and a height restriction. Solved both problems.
your behind on this one, been running several of these for a few years. Enjoy your content though, keep up the good work.
Just some food for thought for people considering these, but I actually like the garage doors are noisy. I like to hear it operating for both safety and security reasons. Everyone, including pets, knows to stay clear of the door when it’s noisy. If it’s too quiet, you may not notice it and that’s when accidents happen. My car idling is louder than this style opener. So if my car is on I wouldn’t hear this thing at all. Also, security… I like hearing it from inside the house so I know it’s being used.
Great product, New home will be getting this installed. Thx
I have these in my garage and they are awesome!
Awesome. I am planning to replace my garage door opener, and now I really want to get this one. Thanks! I did not know this existed.
I love your garage, I’m jealous LOL great video something to look into when I get a new opener
Great video! Exactly what I want to install to replace my old system.
Tempted to use this on my new house but getting mixed reviews on this model and a lot of people are experiencing issues. Might just stick with last years RJ070 until Al the bugs are phased out. Great content and detailed review
I like it. Much more sensible from an engineering standpoint.
I installed my Chamberlain opener 3 weeks ago. I didn’t go with this one,I bought the one with the camera so I can be notified if there’s anyone in my garage,and it’s VERY quiet,like this one.
I installed the same unit on my sons garage door. Although the unit was quiet and relatively easy to install I found the coupling from the jackshaft to the closure jam screws kept loosing causing the door to not close all the way. In the end I replaced with a ceiling mount and have had no issues. I did like the design of the unit, installation went well and performed good and i was going to pin the coupling to stop slippage. Another thought was to drill locate holes so the jam screws are locked into position.. just my two cents from Canada..
JUst got one of these installed. They are great, love it!
Glad to hear that. They are pretty amazing little devices
I ve had mine for almost 10 years and its worth the money
Great video lots of good information. Thanks for sharing the whole process in a concise well thought out video.
Will have to look into them. I am needing some for my TH-cam studio/shop.
I have 4 of these as well as a commercial one on my big bay and like them all very much!
I was expecting the unit to be much more expensive than a regular unit, but honestly with what you get the price seems pretty fair. I do like the deadbolt, having it automatic like that should be standard for all units lol
I work for a garage door company just part time and I have replaced so many of those failed slide locks. Those openers keep garage door companies busy fixing doors for sure. Usually thrown cables.
I've changed openers several times, never needed to chance safety sensors, the old ones (already aimed in) worked with new opener every time.
I had considered these when replacing the 1990's genie screw drive in my house that was original. The old screw drive was not actually that loud when greased properly. Because of the reliability I replaced them with another set of genie screw drive openers.
Thank you for your excellent video of this interesting opener!
Looks great!
I learned something today, this is exactly what I want to replace my 1992 noisy opener under the bonus room for guest
Look at those pretty trees and that sky!
Nice opener! Always looking for better alternatives to the normal devices that are, smart & more secure.