You think Psywave is weird? How about Kinesis? First of all, in Red and Blue, this move went pretty much unused. It couldn't be learned by any pokemon and could only be accessed through Metronome. In Yellow, it was finally added to Kadabra and Alakazam's learnset as a signature move. Surely, being the signature move of one of the most powerful evolutionary lines in the game, it must be a pretty solid move, right? Well, all it does is reduce the opponent's accuracy. By one stage. The move is almost identical to the HM Flash, it's just 10% more accurate. This is especially bizarre when you consider the fact that it is functionally identical to the move Sand Attack, which any given Pidgey knows as far back as Viridian Forest, except that it's 20% less accurate. And considering you're expected to have Flash on your team, and there is no Move Deleter in gen 1, who would ever be convinced to teach their Alakazam Kinesis of all things?
Psychic seems to be full of these weirdly useless moves, ever hear of the move Synchronoise? a damage dealing Psychic type move that can only hit pokemon of the same type as the user, and most of the pokemon that can learn it resist Psychic, or in Umbreon's case *are immune*, and as far as I can tell only a few of the pokemon that learn it can get STAB while also having the potential of being Super Effective. only pokemon that are Water/Fighting, Water/Poison, Poison/Flying, or Fighting/Flying can be hit by a Super Effective STAB Synchronoise.
Uh... to... to bend spoons? ...yeah, Kinesis also sucks. Much more fun to sweep with Special-ATK moves using Kadabra and Alakazam, or even let 'em use Recover.
Sabrina: "Congratulations on your victory. As I see you now, I think this TM will be perfect for you." Me: "Thank you... wait, Psywave? But this is useless!" Sabrina: "Perfect for you"
tubegerm Yes, there’s easy ways to counter bide, but the point still stands, that if they attack you, and you live, you can easily take a chunk out of their bar, or even k.o. them.
Gamefreak staff: Which psychic move is supposed to be exclusive to the gym leader? Sugimori: Stop asking questions and keep working! We were supposed to be done with this game 5 years ago!
@@acecanti4175 When he(Satoshi Tajiri) first pitched the idea of Pokémon to Nintendo staff, they could not quite grasp the concept, but were impressed enough with Tajiri's game design reputation that they decided to explore it. Shigeru Miyamoto began to mentor Tajiri, guiding him during the creation process. Pokémon Red and Green took six years to produce, and nearly bankrupted Game Freak in the process; often, there was barely enough money to pay the employees. Five employees quit, and Tajiri did not take a salary, instead living off of his father's income. Investment from Creatures Inc. allowed Game Freak to complete the games, and in return, Creatures received one-third of the franchise rights.
AceCanti game freak is actually rather cheap. They make games that have as much revenue as triple a games but way smaller a staff then triple a studios. Massive profit margins due to their cheapness. Even if they get no merchandise money the profit is huge
psywave does at least have a competitive niche! in generation 7, the common bronzong set in the RU tier was stealth rock/toxic/psywave/filler. the first two are to wear down opponents passively, while psywave is used to chip down steel types that resist stealth rock and are immune to toxic. although luck based, few pokemon are excited about switching in on a potential 150 damage roll as well. thanks psywave!
So basically the same use as Seismic Toss on Chansey (giving a wall a fixed-damage attack for chipping away at enemies). Cute Nana pfp, who's the artist?
It's funny how the move was buffed in later generations to do between .5 and 1.5 the user's level in damage, giving it some niche use on pokemon like bronzong, then they didn't want to make animations for all the moves and cut it out with gen 8. Maybe it was so bad in gen 1 because they thought Sabrina might be too hard if she used psychic instead? Such a disappointing reward for beating her though... Oh well, gen 1 being weird is nothing new.
Except, they had Psybeam. 65 power with a low chance of confusion? Seems like a decent move to balance out the Psychic-type's extreme advantage without making it so..gimmicky. And it'd be actually USEFUL too! Especially if they moved Psychic to a later area, like the Pokemon Mansion, Seafoam Islands, or Victory Road. Besides, it plays on the idea that psychics are tricky and rely less on brute-force. Which is a complete lie in Gen 1, but is far more believable in later entries!
Kinesis shouldn't be confused with Telekinesis (also learnable by Kadabra), introduced in Gen 5, but not available in Gen 8. And a pretty weird move in its own right. Telekinesis makes the target float for three turns, making him immune to Ground Type move, but also reducing its evasion. Despite being a move tutor available to a lot of Pokemon in Gen 7, you probably never used or see it, due to its extremely gimmicky nature.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Especially when you could just use Gravity instead. Gravity is superior in almost every way, which I'm guessing is why Gravity is in Gen 8 and Telekinesis isn't.
@@DoubleTime53 I don't really think they are that similar though. Telekinesis makes the target float (which could be used in Double Battle). That adds some diversity with the move. It's just that there are always better options. Even Defog is more useful.
I don't think the moves cut were due to them not wanting to animate them. The majority were either exteremely gimmicky or outclassed by Gen VIII and saw little to no use in casual or competitive play.
I for some reason thought that Psywave dealt between 0.5x and 1.5x the users level in damage in gen 1, which I thought was reasonable. I had no idea the minimum roll was actually literally 1 damage. I know that Gamefreak definitely put a bunch of awful moves into the game on purpose but good lord.
I know why you thought Psywave dealt between .5x and 1.5x the user's level. It was actually buffed in generation 3 so it wouldn't be as hilariously useless. It clearly didn't work, seeing that it was removed in generation 8, but interesting I guess.
The buff *did* work, @@PlumbumJelly; it's just that there's a big difference between "not as hilariously useless" and "actually useful if the stars align". xD
When you mentioned desyncs at 4:25 I gotta say, I felt nothing but excitement. It's definitely one of my favorite Pokémon facts that is relatively obscure.
this just proves that even the most seemingly useless moves can have a little niche carved out in battles! i think that explains why so many moves seem garbage-- all GF is doing is giving options, which means thousands of different ways to build a moveset and play.
Chansey can't have natural cure if you have psywave, they are not compatible together. Therefore it isn't really a good idea to use psywave on chansey because you have to give up its best ability in order to do so.
Xyan Nail because chansey can only have psywave if it's transferred from generation 1. This means that it cannot have its hidden ability, natural cure, which was released in gen 5.
@@HaydnG266 wow! incredible observation! its not like anybody here already knew that and were just joking about how it sounded like "fucked" instead of "fought"! nah, that _couldn't_ be it...
I'd still maintain that Razor Wind is the worst attack out there (though Synchronoise was one hell of a contender in more recent generations). A Normal-type move that takes two turns just to do base-80 damage...... yeah. That's pretty much the exact same damage output as Pound or Scratch in the same number of turns. What's even more sad is that, by the time you get this TM (the move itself being TM-exclusive), it's not too off from being when you get access to the Strength HM. So basically, you'd have access to a Normal-type move that can do the same amount of damage in one turn, and you can teach it to Pokemon indefinitely (and keep in mind, I'm talking about an HM..... a move that most people deem to be complete garbage in battle when it isn't Water-type, and it still outclasses Razor Wind by leaps and bounds). Really though, gen1 in general was loaded with fucking horrible design decisions when you get right down to it. Though what really gets to me is that, until gen8 finally removed it, Razor Wind received almost no updates this entire time (aside from an increased Critical Hit ratio, and gen4 converting it to a special attack, that's it)..... and yet, for a few generations, they still made its accessibility elusive for whatever reason (the anime continually portrayed it as being some kind of useful attack too). Gen2, it's only available through breeding a Pokemon that learned it in gen1 via TM. And in later generations, the Pokemon that can learn it naturally tend to do so at a pretty high level (most of them getting in their 30s at the earliest..... a point by which they're guaranteed to have MUCH better options). And gen4's special conversion didn't help, considering most of the Pokemon that learn it are more physically inclined. Gen6 had a bit of sense by making Pokemon learn the move at level 1 (even if one of those Pokemon was a fucking legendary), but then they backpedaled like crazy in gen7, which has Type:Null and Sylvally learning the move at level 70. Who in their right mind would ever consider teaching this garbage attack to their Sylvally at that point?
Yikes. I kinda like the idea of slashing winds in media too, but Razor Wind does seem like trash all throughout its lifespan. Thank you for the detailed explanation!
I like that you roasted the move without even saying how trash 2 turn moves are cause you can just switch out or use protect in the turn he actually hits. But i always kinda liked the move (but not use) because of its cool german name Klingensturm which is more like Bladestorm in english than razor wind. The english name reminds you more of razor leaf cause they are both the same strength kinda xD
This is also forgetting it's called Razor WIND and it's a NORMAL TYPE MOVE. W H A T. At least give it flying type so it's useful against something, right?
I always thought it was weird game design to make the only Ghost-types in the entire game also part Poison. I mean, isn't Ghost type is supposed to be special and unique, assuming that they weren't expecting sequels? Why also make it Poison? It just makes it more confusing to understand the exclusive Ghost type if it is also Poison. Sorry, it makes me feel kinda OCD-ish.
Yeah I agree. Especially if ghost types were meant to be good against physic... but then again, ghost didn't affect physic in gen 1, _and_ it was a physical type... with Lick being the only non-fixed damage attack. Man, ghost just couldn't catch a break in gen 1.
Similar thing happened where almost all the Rock types were also Ground leading to a misconception that Rock was immune to Electric. The Ghost thing may have been a balancing issue, as Ghosts were only weak to themselves at the time and their only move was Lick. Obviously a better solution would have been to add more moves but I think cartridge space was also an issue.
@@dragonmasterlance123 Kabuto/Omanyte lines were water/rock and Aerodactyl was rock/flying, but since no one was going to train them up, and iirc no one really used them ingame aside of Lance's Aerodactyl, it wouldn't have been something people would have checked. Didn't help that the English Gen I anime attributed the electric immunity of Rhydon and friends to its Rock type.
@@MOORE4U2 When I was a kid, I used tbolt on a ground type, and it didn't work. So I thought rock types were immune to electric, as normal. When I used it on Aerodactyl, however, I then thought that if you had a weakness and an immunity to that type, you'd override the immunity and that the move would work anyway. I was dumb as a kid....
One misconception in this video is it talks about Gen 1 and then says Chansey has poor offensive stats. Due to Gen 1 having Special Attack and Special Defense as one stat, Chansey effectively has 105 Special Attack which is far from the poor offense it has in later generations.
Oh yeah, fixed-damage attacks are amazing in the early game. I know Dragon Rage is banned in little cup (pokemon need to be unevolved and at level 5) because a lot of Pokemon straight up don't have 40 hp by that point.
In RBY 10U (where the only legal pokemon are weedle, caterpie, metapod, kakuna and magikarp), dragon rage is great on magikarp to help you break through harden kakuna
G1 in some other language, like italian, the messed up code descriptors hsd some unprecedented effects namelly, dragon rage could crit, with that crit automatically inflicting the highest possible amount of damage in the game
I figured out pretty quick that Psywave did variable damage but I had no idea it was based on _level!_ It might have been worth comparing Psywave to Magnitude as a fellow random strength attack. This was a nice 5-minute video on an interesting topic. Thank you!
With it and Dragon Rage being rare TMs in Gen 1, I suppose the devs really overestimated the extent to which defence-boosting moves would be considered important, to the point that being certain that you'd deal 40 damage or being able to overcome a boosted enemy defence to have a level 80 pokemon deal up to 120 damage was worth it.
Actually, in gen 1, seismic toss on chansey is used for a rather different reason then poor offensive stats. Chansey actually has good offensive power in gen 1, as due to special still being one stat, Chansey’s super high special not only gives it great bulk for taking special hits, but it can deal them out while recovering the hp back with soft boiled really well. Chanseys typically run Ice beam and Thunderbolt for attacking moves, and combined with that high special, that’s some damn good damage. However, with thunderbolt, ice beam, and soft boiled, Chansey is left with only one moveslot left. This is typically used for thunder wave, but what about the Chansey sets that wanna use weirder Chansey set ups, like sing or reflect? Those typically end up having to replace one of the attacking moves (almost always thunderbolt), and while Ice Beam is super strong, it leaves Chansey with a problem. Chansey is supposed to stay around for a damn long while, being fine to do so with it’s insane bulk and recovery… but with only ice beam, that leaves only 16 attacks, which for a mon like Chansey isn’t really as many as it’d want. Enter Seismic toss. It’s damage is pretty good, it has much more PP then Ice Beam, and on top of that, Ice types are actually damn good in gen 1 ou (I’d argue it’s probably the third best type in the tier, with Normal as best and Psychic in second), so a Chansey with only Ice beam to attack with would quickly run out of them against any remotely tanky Ice mon due to not being able to even freeze it witha resisted hit, and stuff like Starmie could also likely hardwall it duebto the resist, especially combined with Starmie’s tankiness and access to recover. And don’t even try using Thunderbolt here as your one attack, Rhydon and Exeggutor will absolutely massacre you if you do. So, if you wanna use more interesting stuff like reflect or sing on Chansey in gen 1 ou, seismic toss is typically the way to go due to its better PP, not due to Chansey’s offenses.
Im still trying to understand the point of Sableye's Stall ability is. Its an interesting case becaues its its signature ability, but was only added in 4th gen. That means they went out of their way to give Sableye this ability. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
its for the move role play, by the gen(4 i think..) stall is a HiddenAbility....yeah very limited strategy, but yeah that is the only viable reason....I guess you can mean look, then role play but yeah, its garbage
I think it was just meant to nerf Sableye because it there weren’t any moves that were super-effective against Ghost/Dark-types before the introduction of the Fairy-type and they were afraid that having a Pokémon with no weaknesses would be a gamebreaker. It really wasn’t though, at least not because of its typing.
Not a weird move but a questionable one, the move Tackle. I dont know why it has lower bp and accuracy than Scratch and Pound, and it takes 5 gens to fix it. And they fix it too much by giving it 50 base power instead of 40 like Scratch and Pound and finally in Gen 7 its the same as those early moves.
This reminds me of other stupid things, like the Zubat line’s only available Poison-type move for Gen 1 and 2 being Toxic... and only via TM of course.
because of the desync issue tho its a move that actually is banned or at lest considered to be banned in many gen 1 OU games even tho its a piece of trash lol.
On a more serious note, I remember being tricked into using Psywave as a kid. I didn't use it enough to figure out what it did, as soon as it wasn't doing as much damage as Psychic it got thrown out. Did feel decieved, though.
Alakazam on Pokémon Stadium's Pika Cup has Psywave as its only special attack. One of the best mons of the entire generation, turned into an useless punching bag :c
the only real niche I can think of is that psywave is the only fixed damage move that has no type immunities. and yes I know gen 1 type immunities didn't work on fix damage moves. lots of things in gen 1 didn't quite function as designed.
Despite dragon rage only doing 40 dmg it can pull some real early game work it most generations. I actually quite like the move because every pokemon up to around levels 15-17 is a one tap.
Flygoniaks yeah that and return/frustration are the only ones idk why they were removed. Maybe GF didn’t like how much they were used? But I don’t remember people complaining about em much.
@@wesnohathas1993 They removed quite a few useful and/or iconic moves, as well as moves like Heart Stamp and Heal Order, which were both signature moves of very okay-ish, already not super great Pokemon that were **in the game**. That's right, they removed the signature moves of returning Pokemon for no reason. Even weirder, Vespiquen still has its other "order" moves.
Yeah but what about TM Soft-Boiled? In Gen 1 only two Pokemon could learn it. Mew and Chansey. Chansey could already learn it naturally which means it would be better used for Mew. However most players wouldn't even have Mew. So what's the point? Latter in Gen 3 it was tutor move which the Clefairy and Togepi line could learn so at least they did that.
chansey couldn't learn it naturally in gen 1, actually which, yes, means the tm existed solely to teach a _single pokemon_ its _signature move_ i don't know if that's better or worse than the fact that _egg bomb_ was a tm that you could _buy in the celadon department store,_ considering it's a move that's only learned by ... chansey and the exeggcute line yeah, chansey effectively has 1.5 tms exclusive to it. one of which you can _buy._ there are 1.5 tms that are only usable if you catch _one of the rarest pokemon in the game,_ and you can waste money on buying multiples of them! _and it's the one that teaches a physical move to a pokemon with 5 attack!_
If it was between 0.5x and 1.5x it would've been a cute move. But as is, the chance of it doing less damage than Seismic Toss is twice that of it doing more.
Magnitude was known as poor man's Earthquake until you could learn that move (everyone who learns Magnitude, eventually learns EQ or can access the TM). But at least you could do something with Magnitude other than crossing your fingers :c
I feel like psywave is a miscommunication. Designer said "have it deal between 1-1.5x the user's level" (so 10-15 at lv10). Programmer heard "between 1 (hp) - 1.5x user's level"
Strange thing is, some stupid gen 1 designs were made even worse in later gens. Constrict is a great example: only 10 base power (3.5x weaker than Tackle!!!), with an incredibly small 1/3 chance it String Shots the enemy. That's fine for a move with a decent second effect like Poison Sting, but not for a mere 1 stage speed drop! Even as a starter move, that's horrible. Yet for some reason they decided this was overpowered, and they reduced its speed drop chance from 1/3 to 1/10 in later gens.
To be fair, in gen I, crit rate was based on Speed (specifically, you have a (Speed / 2) out of 256 chance of critting), so the Constrict nerf could've been decided on before they changed how crits worked in later games, but not re-evaluated after the crit change.
I saw that little animation for the attack and instinctively knew it was Psywave. I haven't even heard that word in years, but I knew. That's the power of garbage.
With some Gen 2 shenanigans, Thunder Punch destroys Slowbro and Starmie :D. But yeah, if that's not an option, S. Toss and Thunder Wave are decent on Alakazam.
Concerning weird Gen 1-moves, there's this one story that has been bothering me for years, but I can't find any information about it, so I'm not sure if this is some weird Mandela-effect issue or if I just misremember things. Back when Red and Blue were released, you of course could also buy those guide-books that walk you through the game. In Germany, we had one coloured in black. On one page, the one that details one of the fights against Giovanni, there was a screenshot of the player using a Charizard... and that Charizard knew a move that doesn't exist, called "Schmerzer" (roughly translates to "Hurter"). Now, I usually would assume that I just misread the thing, since I barely learned how to read back when the games were released. After all, the spelling is pretty close to "Schlitzer", the German name for "Slash". Unfortuneately, I can't find that guide book anymore, so I cannot go check if remember it correctly. However, around the same time, I also read a random kids gaming magazine, and there was a letter reporting that they had left their Blastoise in daycare for a long time and it came back with a move that also didn't exit, called "Spritzer" (roughly translates to "Squirter"). That, of course, could also be just another case of little children claiming that something totally happened to them ingame. But anyway, I accepted by now that I probably just remember things wrong. If they really shipped out a guide book that contains a non-existant move, there obviously would've been any kind of coverage online, even if it's just a short "Dafuq is this move?"-post somewhere.
I remember in 1998, a kid at my school had a Pkmn Sticker albums (you know, you buy a packet of stickers at the store, open up the packet, see what stickers you got and fill the album accordingly. No idea the english name) and Lapras' name was Ness, Marowak was Guardia and Kadabra was Pocus. I can assume the translating process was tediously slow and still not very official back then. So I can imagine you can also find those weird moves in a german game.
@@IceSpoon I've played the German version of the game and neither of these moves were in it... but now that you mention it, it's possible that the screenshot they've used contained some early Alpha translations... so that's an explaination I can get behind!
@@IceSpoon Well whaddaya know, turns out I WAS remembering things correctly! A Nintendo magazine I read has a small section every issue that contains some trivia concerning Nintendo games and last issue actually mentioned Charizard's mystery "Schmerzer"-attack from the official guide book. They didn't have any explaination either, but it's reassuring to know that my memory wasn't playing tricks on me.
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How about: Hold hands ALL THE POKEMON DO IS HOLD HANDS WITH EACH OTHER. NOTHING ELSE LITERALLY. And it's only learned by some event pokémon (A Vivillon and a Greninja I think)
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@Warhawk9012 ONLY in games after Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee did it get its awesome modern effect, fun fact, Teleport does nothing in Stadium 1, 2, Colosseum and Battle Revolution, and in XD, it only works in Poke Spot battles
Gen I had many issues but honestly I prefer the model of non-reusable and TM exclusive moves. It added an element of strategy of having to carefully pick which Pokémon would get that move. To me that encouraged really knowing who your team was going to be because once you teach that move it’s final.
Yes part of mystery of pokemon during the red and blue days was learning what moves did what. You kinda had to try one and see how much damage it was putting out and how often it missed. There wasn't really any tutorials except how to catch a pokemon. Not all of us got guide books from the game shop.
I remember as a kid removing psychic for psywave on my Mr mime because my logic was: this one i got for free and this one i had to defeat Sabrina for so obviously the latter is better
something that i think may be lost on many pokémon players today is that the aesthetics and theme might have been (in many ways) more important than the mechanics and rules of the experience. back then (as in, in an era in which internet access or information about video games were not readily available), there could still exist a true sense of mystery when it came to learning about the world of pokémon. through this lens of discovery and exploration, what better type to associate with some bizarre and obtuse move than the psychic type? it fits perfectly within your role as a young scientist who is studying strange and fascinating creatures. try to imagine the interesting stories a child might be able to build with such a move when telling tales of their adventures to their friends.
I'd like to think psywave was a miscoded move and was meant to due 1-1.5× your level. Not 1 hp but damage equal to your level at minimum. It was meant to be a psychic variant of seismic toss, but that's just my theory
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the developers probably haven't gone into the game mechanics as in depth as we players did ourselves later on. there was probably no idea yet whether pokemon would actually become a lasting and successful franchise and that we players would analyze every corner of data on the cartridge. it was just a cool game for kids and the game testers gave it a thumbs-up. they probably thought psywave is a cool gimmick move, that stood out and would get players interested as it ignored battle stats. that's probably all there is to it. with later gens they probably finally realised it's not nearly as good as intended and they made it into an early game level-up move.
With dragon rage however it is understandable due to the only dragon being dragonite with it's stats, they were worried that any other dragon attacks were going to be too strong, come gen 3 however and they found better dragon moves and later gens now have even more dragon moves like dragon tail and dragon pulse
What makes Dragon Wave even stranger is how it's portrayed in the anime. There's an episode of the first season where a Gyarados uses it and it's so powerful that the main characters get flung away onto an island. And in the Black & White series, Axew knows it and they still make it look much more powerful than it actually is.
if it was random between .5x-1.5x the users level than at lvl100 it would range between 50-150 averaging 100, than it would at least be on average as good as seismic toss
You think Psywave is weird? How about Kinesis? First of all, in Red and Blue, this move went pretty much unused. It couldn't be learned by any pokemon and could only be accessed through Metronome. In Yellow, it was finally added to Kadabra and Alakazam's learnset as a signature move. Surely, being the signature move of one of the most powerful evolutionary lines in the game, it must be a pretty solid move, right? Well, all it does is reduce the opponent's accuracy. By one stage. The move is almost identical to the HM Flash, it's just 10% more accurate. This is especially bizarre when you consider the fact that it is functionally identical to the move Sand Attack, which any given Pidgey knows as far back as Viridian Forest, except that it's 20% less accurate. And considering you're expected to have Flash on your team, and there is no Move Deleter in gen 1, who would ever be convinced to teach their Alakazam Kinesis of all things?
I thought this video was going to be about kinesis. But I'm glad it wasn't, I didn't really know about psywave.
Psychic seems to be full of these weirdly useless moves, ever hear of the move Synchronoise? a damage dealing Psychic type move that can only hit pokemon of the same type as the user, and most of the pokemon that can learn it resist Psychic, or in Umbreon's case *are immune*, and as far as I can tell only a few of the pokemon that learn it can get STAB while also having the potential of being Super Effective. only pokemon that are Water/Fighting, Water/Poison, Poison/Flying, or Fighting/Flying can be hit by a Super Effective STAB Synchronoise.
@Aces Spades it's not in gen 8, and its still stupid in gen 5 and 6
Uh... to... to bend spoons? ...yeah, Kinesis also sucks. Much more fun to sweep with Special-ATK moves using Kadabra and Alakazam, or even let 'em use Recover.
@@raziyatheseeker Kinesis would be so much better if it increased Kadabra's special. Would it be a bit OP? Sure, but I mean, Mewtwo has Amnesia, so...
Sabrina: "Congratulations on your victory. As I see you now, I think this TM will be perfect for you."
Me: "Thank you... wait, Psywave? But this is useless!"
Sabrina: "Perfect for you"
*OOFs in telepathy*
If the trainer is worthless, what does that say about the gym trainer that lost?
😆 I think with Psychic being so strong; geting the tm Psychic free and Sabrina give you Psywave is just a joke like Farfetch.
Hardest gym leader in 1st Gen due to Psychic-type dominance, and hands over the weakest TM move. Sabrina is a jerk.
Bide is also pretty terrible to be honest.
tubegerm at least bide can knock out a level 100 enemy after a single use.
@@shardtheduraludon unless y'know you die after doing literally nothing for 2 turns, or they just setup for 2 turns.
tubegerm Yes, there’s easy ways to counter bide, but the point still stands, that if they attack you, and you live, you can easily take a chunk out of their bar, or even k.o. them.
In green, Sabrina gives you the badge whether you win or lose.
Gamefreak staff: Which psychic move is supposed to be exclusive to the gym leader?
Sugimori: Stop asking questions and keep working! We were supposed to be done with this game 5 years ago!
Wait I don't get it?
@@acecanti4175 When he(Satoshi Tajiri) first pitched the idea of Pokémon to Nintendo staff, they could not quite grasp the concept, but were impressed enough with Tajiri's game design reputation that they decided to explore it. Shigeru Miyamoto began to mentor Tajiri, guiding him during the creation process. Pokémon Red and Green took six years to produce, and nearly bankrupted Game Freak in the process; often, there was barely enough money to pay the employees. Five employees quit, and Tajiri did not take a salary, instead living off of his father's income. Investment from Creatures Inc. allowed Game Freak to complete the games, and in return, Creatures received one-third of the franchise rights.
@@liamdell6319 wow. Cant imagine being those 5 employees years later with pokemon being in the top 5 highest grossing franchises
Prob about the same they're employees not share holders.
AceCanti game freak is actually rather cheap. They make games that have as much revenue as triple a games but way smaller a staff then triple a studios. Massive profit margins due to their cheapness. Even if they get no merchandise money the profit is huge
psywave does at least have a competitive niche! in generation 7, the common bronzong set in the RU tier was stealth rock/toxic/psywave/filler. the first two are to wear down opponents passively, while psywave is used to chip down steel types that resist stealth rock and are immune to toxic. although luck based, few pokemon are excited about switching in on a potential 150 damage roll as well. thanks psywave!
So basically the same use as Seismic Toss on Chansey (giving a wall a fixed-damage attack for chipping away at enemies).
Cute Nana pfp, who's the artist?
@@autobotstarscream765 Akairiot, here is the link www.deviantart.com/akairiot/art/wintertime-nana-579811974
I was looking for the reason why I saw Psywave on Bronzongs. thank you
@@dzuma1979 Thanks! 😁
@@autobotstarscream765 No problem!
It's funny how the move was buffed in later generations to do between .5 and 1.5 the user's level in damage, giving it some niche use on pokemon like bronzong, then they didn't want to make animations for all the moves and cut it out with gen 8. Maybe it was so bad in gen 1 because they thought Sabrina might be too hard if she used psychic instead? Such a disappointing reward for beating her though... Oh well, gen 1 being weird is nothing new.
Except, they had Psybeam. 65 power with a low chance of confusion? Seems like a decent move to balance out the Psychic-type's extreme advantage without making it so..gimmicky. And it'd be actually USEFUL too!
Especially if they moved Psychic to a later area, like the Pokemon Mansion, Seafoam Islands, or Victory Road.
Besides, it plays on the idea that psychics are tricky and rely less on brute-force. Which is a complete lie in Gen 1, but is far more believable in later entries!
Kinesis shouldn't be confused with Telekinesis (also learnable by Kadabra), introduced in Gen 5, but not available in Gen 8. And a pretty weird move in its own right.
Telekinesis makes the target float for three turns, making him immune to Ground Type move, but also reducing its evasion.
Despite being a move tutor available to a lot of Pokemon in Gen 7, you probably never used or see it, due to its extremely gimmicky nature.
@@shytendeakatamanoir9740 Especially when you could just use Gravity instead. Gravity is superior in almost every way, which I'm guessing is why Gravity is in Gen 8 and Telekinesis isn't.
@@DoubleTime53 I don't really think they are that similar though. Telekinesis makes the target float (which could be used in Double Battle). That adds some diversity with the move. It's just that there are always better options. Even Defog is more useful.
I don't think the moves cut were due to them not wanting to animate them. The majority were either exteremely gimmicky or outclassed by Gen VIII and saw little to no use in casual or competitive play.
Out of all Pokémon that guy could’ve sent out he sent out a MissingNO? And a headless one at that! He might as well just sent out a shoe.
Hey, Shoe is the best Chinpokomon. Could give some 1st-Gen Pokemon a run for their money, I'd bet.
Rachel the Seeker lmfao, I remember him. Wasn’t he a toy?
Now I'm imagining someone just chucking a shoe at the enemy pokemon
@@javonyounger5107 Shoemerang.
That's not MissingNo., it's the PlayStation Network! Says it right there!
I for some reason thought that Psywave dealt between 0.5x and 1.5x the users level in damage in gen 1, which I thought was reasonable. I had no idea the minimum roll was actually literally 1 damage. I know that Gamefreak definitely put a bunch of awful moves into the game on purpose but good lord.
I know why you thought Psywave dealt between .5x and 1.5x the user's level. It was actually buffed in generation 3 so it wouldn't be as hilariously useless. It clearly didn't work, seeing that it was removed in generation 8, but interesting I guess.
The buff *did* work, @@PlumbumJelly; it's just that there's a big difference between "not as hilariously useless" and "actually useful if the stars align". xD
Kid named Razor Wind:
When you mentioned desyncs at 4:25 I gotta say, I felt nothing but excitement. It's definitely one of my favorite Pokémon facts that is relatively obscure.
I've seen people use it in modern generations on Chansey as a way to inflict damage on Gengar.
this just proves that even the most seemingly useless moves can have a little niche carved out in battles! i think that explains why so many moves seem garbage-- all GF is doing is giving options, which means thousands of different ways to build a moveset and play.
Chansey can't have natural cure if you have psywave, they are not compatible together. Therefore it isn't really a good idea to use psywave on chansey because you have to give up its best ability in order to do so.
@@mistydayremainsofthejudgment And then GF shot us in the face by removing like 20 moves in the game. RIP Snatch.
@@dragicmagic9870 Wait, why?
Xyan Nail because chansey can only have psywave if it's transferred from generation 1. This means that it cannot have its hidden ability, natural cure, which was released in gen 5.
0:33 No matter how many times I replay it, I can only hear "If you f***ed Sabrina in Generation 1..."
I know I did. I can't hear what your talking about though.
@Tyler Hoffman they meant “fucked” they just censored it.
I wish, sabrina is fine af
No, he said "fought"
@@HaydnG266 wow! incredible observation! its not like anybody here already knew that and were just joking about how it sounded like "fucked" instead of "fought"! nah, that _couldn't_ be it...
I'd still maintain that Razor Wind is the worst attack out there (though Synchronoise was one hell of a contender in more recent generations). A Normal-type move that takes two turns just to do base-80 damage...... yeah. That's pretty much the exact same damage output as Pound or Scratch in the same number of turns. What's even more sad is that, by the time you get this TM (the move itself being TM-exclusive), it's not too off from being when you get access to the Strength HM. So basically, you'd have access to a Normal-type move that can do the same amount of damage in one turn, and you can teach it to Pokemon indefinitely (and keep in mind, I'm talking about an HM..... a move that most people deem to be complete garbage in battle when it isn't Water-type, and it still outclasses Razor Wind by leaps and bounds). Really though, gen1 in general was loaded with fucking horrible design decisions when you get right down to it.
Though what really gets to me is that, until gen8 finally removed it, Razor Wind received almost no updates this entire time (aside from an increased Critical Hit ratio, and gen4 converting it to a special attack, that's it)..... and yet, for a few generations, they still made its accessibility elusive for whatever reason (the anime continually portrayed it as being some kind of useful attack too). Gen2, it's only available through breeding a Pokemon that learned it in gen1 via TM. And in later generations, the Pokemon that can learn it naturally tend to do so at a pretty high level (most of them getting in their 30s at the earliest..... a point by which they're guaranteed to have MUCH better options). And gen4's special conversion didn't help, considering most of the Pokemon that learn it are more physically inclined. Gen6 had a bit of sense by making Pokemon learn the move at level 1 (even if one of those Pokemon was a fucking legendary), but then they backpedaled like crazy in gen7, which has Type:Null and Sylvally learning the move at level 70. Who in their right mind would ever consider teaching this garbage attack to their Sylvally at that point?
Yikes. I kinda like the idea of slashing winds in media too, but Razor Wind does seem like trash all throughout its lifespan. Thank you for the detailed explanation!
I like that you roasted the move without even saying how trash 2 turn moves are cause you can just switch out or use protect in the turn he actually hits. But i always kinda liked the move (but not use) because of its cool german name Klingensturm which is more like Bladestorm in english than razor wind. The english name reminds you more of razor leaf cause they are both the same strength kinda xD
This is also forgetting it's called Razor WIND and it's a NORMAL TYPE MOVE. W H A T. At least give it flying type so it's useful against something, right?
The only reason to use Razor Wind is probably Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
Every time I ever tried using razor wind, it misses after charging.
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I always thought it was weird game design to make the only Ghost-types in the entire game also part Poison. I mean, isn't Ghost type is supposed to be special and unique, assuming that they weren't expecting sequels? Why also make it Poison? It just makes it more confusing to understand the exclusive Ghost type if it is also Poison.
Sorry, it makes me feel kinda OCD-ish.
Yeah I agree. Especially if ghost types were meant to be good against physic... but then again, ghost didn't affect physic in gen 1, _and_ it was a physical type... with Lick being the only non-fixed damage attack. Man, ghost just couldn't catch a break in gen 1.
Similar thing happened where almost all the Rock types were also Ground leading to a misconception that Rock was immune to Electric.
The Ghost thing may have been a balancing issue, as Ghosts were only weak to themselves at the time and their only move was Lick. Obviously a better solution would have been to add more moves but I think cartridge space was also an issue.
@@dragonmasterlance123 Kabuto/Omanyte lines were water/rock and Aerodactyl was rock/flying, but since no one was going to train them up, and iirc no one really used them ingame aside of Lance's Aerodactyl, it wouldn't have been something people would have checked. Didn't help that the English Gen I anime attributed the electric immunity of Rhydon and friends to its Rock type.
Gen 1 just had a weirdly high amount of poison types in general.
@@MOORE4U2 When I was a kid, I used tbolt on a ground type, and it didn't work. So I thought rock types were immune to electric, as normal. When I used it on Aerodactyl, however, I then thought that if you had a weakness and an immunity to that type, you'd override the immunity and that the move would work anyway. I was dumb as a kid....
One misconception in this video is it talks about Gen 1 and then says Chansey has poor offensive stats. Due to Gen 1 having Special Attack and Special Defense as one stat, Chansey effectively has 105 Special Attack which is far from the poor offense it has in later generations.
I guess that he talked about the option to not use psywave not in gen 1, but gen 2 and onwards.
Which made it an absolute killer on a team. Made it my favorite pokemon.
To be fair to Dragon Rage I've seen that Dratini you get from the minigame early in HG/SS do work early game with it.
Oh yeah, fixed-damage attacks are amazing in the early game. I know Dragon Rage is banned in little cup (pokemon need to be unevolved and at level 5) because a lot of Pokemon straight up don't have 40 hp by that point.
In RBY it is great on Gyarados since you are two shotting almost anything in the early to mid game.
In RBY 10U (where the only legal pokemon are weedle, caterpie, metapod, kakuna and magikarp), dragon rage is great on magikarp to help you break through harden kakuna
Useless mechanic?
Poorly-designed?
May break your game?
Ah, good old Gen 1.
Missingno :D
Another useless move in Gen 1, focus energy. It actually hurts your crit probability.
it truly makes me question GenWunners logic at times...
And yet Gen 1 is still the most liked generation.
@@k-leb4671 That's solely because of some of the really good the designs and nostalgia. Lotsa nostalgia.
G1 in some other language, like italian, the messed up code descriptors hsd some unprecedented effects
namelly, dragon rage could crit, with that crit automatically inflicting the highest possible amount of damage in the game
serPomiz That actually sounds like a cool idea for a move. Really weak by default but if it crits it’s a Big Boi Hit
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I figured out pretty quick that Psywave did variable damage but I had no idea it was based on _level!_
It might have been worth comparing Psywave to Magnitude as a fellow random strength attack. This was a nice 5-minute video on an interesting topic. Thank you!
With it and Dragon Rage being rare TMs in Gen 1, I suppose the devs really overestimated the extent to which defence-boosting moves would be considered important, to the point that being certain that you'd deal 40 damage or being able to overcome a boosted enemy defence to have a level 80 pokemon deal up to 120 damage was worth it.
Tbf, they didn't originally intend for critting to be as massively broken as it was.
Interesting thought process, you're probably right
Actually, in gen 1, seismic toss on chansey is used for a rather different reason then poor offensive stats. Chansey actually has good offensive power in gen 1, as due to special still being one stat, Chansey’s super high special not only gives it great bulk for taking special hits, but it can deal them out while recovering the hp back with soft boiled really well. Chanseys typically run Ice beam and Thunderbolt for attacking moves, and combined with that high special, that’s some damn good damage. However, with thunderbolt, ice beam, and soft boiled, Chansey is left with only one moveslot left. This is typically used for thunder wave, but what about the Chansey sets that wanna use weirder Chansey set ups, like sing or reflect? Those typically end up having to replace one of the attacking moves (almost always thunderbolt), and while Ice Beam is super strong, it leaves Chansey with a problem. Chansey is supposed to stay around for a damn long while, being fine to do so with it’s insane bulk and recovery… but with only ice beam, that leaves only 16 attacks, which for a mon like Chansey isn’t really as many as it’d want. Enter Seismic toss. It’s damage is pretty good, it has much more PP then Ice Beam, and on top of that, Ice types are actually damn good in gen 1 ou (I’d argue it’s probably the third best type in the tier, with Normal as best and Psychic in second), so a Chansey with only Ice beam to attack with would quickly run out of them against any remotely tanky Ice mon due to not being able to even freeze it witha resisted hit, and stuff like Starmie could also likely hardwall it duebto the resist, especially combined with Starmie’s tankiness and access to recover. And don’t even try using Thunderbolt here as your one attack, Rhydon and Exeggutor will absolutely massacre you if you do.
So, if you wanna use more interesting stuff like reflect or sing on Chansey in gen 1 ou, seismic toss is typically the way to go due to its better PP, not due to Chansey’s offenses.
4:29 I'd love to know how anyone ever discovered this de-sync in the first place.
Im still trying to understand the point of Sableye's Stall ability is. Its an interesting case becaues its its signature ability, but was only added in 4th gen. That means they went out of their way to give Sableye this ability. And for the life of me, I can't figure out why.
Moves like Revenge always have their maximum power...? It seems like the kind of thing a really creative-and-bored player would use.
its for the move role play, by the gen(4 i think..) stall is a HiddenAbility....yeah very limited strategy, but yeah that is the only viable reason....I guess you can mean look, then role play but yeah, its garbage
It was obviously to foreshadow its broken HA in the following generation and its ensuing dominance over the meta.
@@ryanmoreau4569 To use 100 damage payback too I think.
I think it was just meant to nerf Sableye because it there weren’t any moves that were super-effective against Ghost/Dark-types before the introduction of the Fairy-type and they were afraid that having a Pokémon with no weaknesses would be a gamebreaker. It really wasn’t though, at least not because of its typing.
Maybe at one point Sabrina was supposed to give you psychic and Mr. Psychic was supposed give you psywave, but they reversed it for some reason.
That's what I assumed too. Some random guy gives you one of the best moves in the game for free, while the very hard gym leader gives you trash.
Not a weird move but a questionable one, the move Tackle. I dont know why it has lower bp and accuracy than Scratch and Pound, and it takes 5 gens to fix it.
And they fix it too much by giving it 50 base power instead of 40 like Scratch and Pound and finally in Gen 7 its the same as those early moves.
This reminds me of other stupid things, like the Zubat line’s only available Poison-type move for Gen 1 and 2 being Toxic... and only via TM of course.
But, let's be real, Zubat didn't become viable until, Crobat.
Then they massively buffed Leech Life
*That moment when you land the 150 on Psywave.*
because of the desync issue tho its a move that actually is banned or at lest considered to be banned in many gen 1 OU games even tho its a piece of trash lol.
On a more serious note, I remember being tricked into using Psywave as a kid.
I didn't use it enough to figure out what it did, as soon as it wasn't doing as much damage as Psychic it got thrown out.
Did feel decieved, though.
Alakazam on Pokémon Stadium's Pika Cup has Psywave as its only special attack. One of the best mons of the entire generation, turned into an useless punching bag :c
Gen 1 especially as a kid guarantees trash movesets.
Pretty sure I had a charizard with mega punch, seismic toss, firespin, and strength
@bobmcbob49 better than a charizard with ember fire spin flamethrower and fire blast buddy 🤣
Nice Simpleflips ending.
2:10 I was thinking about the Kalos Powerplant Theme while watching and was shocked when it started playing.
the only real niche I can think of is that psywave is the only fixed damage move that has no type immunities.
and yes I know gen 1 type immunities didn't work on fix damage moves. lots of things in gen 1 didn't quite function as designed.
Gastly Night Shading everyone in Pokémon Stadium's Petit Cup was fun, though :D
What makes this move even worse is that it only has an accuracy of 80 until gen 6. The move was bad enough as is, why would you make it worse.
This is really Gen 1 in a nuthsell. It's filled to the brim with these downright bizzare design decisions.
I exclusively used this TM when I got an Abra so it could actually fight. Otherwise, never used it.
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Thank you SOO much for including the music used in the video during the video
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Despite dragon rage only doing 40 dmg it can pull some real early game work it most generations. I actually quite like the move because every pokemon up to around levels 15-17 is a one tap.
You need to do some Gen 2 shenanigans with breeding and stuff, but having Dragon Rage around those levels is actually good.
the music transition at Psywave made me instantly subscribe
It was actually perfect
wish i could find the music it is!
Aaron Van Meter top right corner!
Of all the moves that were removed in Generation 8, this one I can totally understand due to how useless it is.
They even cut out moves from previous games in gen 8? It's even worse than I thought.
Yeah, and what's worse is that they weren't all useless or "weird" moves. _Hidden Power_ of all things was cut.
@@wesnohathas1993 yeah, moves like bubble and feint attack are gone too
Flygoniaks yeah that and return/frustration are the only ones idk why they were removed. Maybe GF didn’t like how much they were used? But I don’t remember people complaining about em much.
@@wesnohathas1993 They removed quite a few useful and/or iconic moves, as well as moves like Heart Stamp and Heal Order, which were both signature moves of very okay-ish, already not super great Pokemon that were **in the game**. That's right, they removed the signature moves of returning Pokemon for no reason. Even weirder, Vespiquen still has its other "order" moves.
Yeah but what about TM Soft-Boiled?
In Gen 1 only two Pokemon could learn it. Mew and Chansey. Chansey could already learn it naturally which means it would be better used for Mew. However most players wouldn't even have Mew. So what's the point?
Latter in Gen 3 it was tutor move which the Clefairy and Togepi line could learn so at least they did that.
chansey couldn't learn it naturally in gen 1, actually
which, yes, means the tm existed solely to teach a _single pokemon_ its _signature move_
i don't know if that's better or worse than the fact that _egg bomb_ was a tm that you could _buy in the celadon department store,_ considering it's a move that's only learned by ... chansey and the exeggcute line
yeah, chansey effectively has 1.5 tms exclusive to it. one of which you can _buy._ there are 1.5 tms that are only usable if you catch _one of the rarest pokemon in the game,_ and you can waste money on buying multiples of them! _and it's the one that teaches a physical move to a pokemon with 5 attack!_
@@hi-i-am-atan Oh. I didn't know that, I just assumed Chansey could learn it naturally.
Why does this man only have 359 subs? This is actual quality content!
Woah his sub count tripled since this comment. That's wild
It became over 4k now. Much deserved.
Im happy hes getting subs fast :D
How?
21k now.
If it was between 0.5x and 1.5x it would've been a cute move. But as is, the chance of it doing less damage than Seismic Toss is twice that of it doing more.
Magnitude was known as poor man's Earthquake until you could learn that move (everyone who learns Magnitude, eventually learns EQ or can access the TM). But at least you could do something with Magnitude other than crossing your fingers :c
I feel like psywave is a miscommunication. Designer said "have it deal between 1-1.5x the user's level" (so 10-15 at lv10). Programmer heard "between 1 (hp) - 1.5x user's level"
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Strange thing is, some stupid gen 1 designs were made even worse in later gens. Constrict is a great example: only 10 base power (3.5x weaker than Tackle!!!), with an incredibly small 1/3 chance it String Shots the enemy. That's fine for a move with a decent second effect like Poison Sting, but not for a mere 1 stage speed drop! Even as a starter move, that's horrible. Yet for some reason they decided this was overpowered, and they reduced its speed drop chance from 1/3 to 1/10 in later gens.
Remember, tackle got a buff up to 50 base power! Also, string shot got a buff as well, because now it lowers speed, by 2!
To be fair, in gen I, crit rate was based on Speed (specifically, you have a (Speed / 2) out of 256 chance of critting), so the Constrict nerf could've been decided on before they changed how crits worked in later games, but not re-evaluated after the crit change.
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I saw that little animation for the attack and instinctively knew it was Psywave. I haven't even heard that word in years, but I knew. That's the power of garbage.
You certainly have the voice for TH-cam and perfect when tinged in sarcasm. Keep up the good work. I just subscribed yesterday.
simpleflips telling me im orange juice at the end took me by fucking storm oh my god
Alakazam actually uses Seismic Toss in gen 1 competitive pretty frequently. It's the best move it has to hit other Psychic types.
With some Gen 2 shenanigans, Thunder Punch destroys Slowbro and Starmie :D. But yeah, if that's not an option, S. Toss and Thunder Wave are decent on Alakazam.
I'm not sure about Red and Blue but I'm pretty sure in Pokemon Yellow your Pikachu learns Thunderbolt by level up.
yes
Like most fixed damage moves, it is for facing high defense mons.
In the case of gen 1, Special stat was high on a few making psychic less useful.
Concerning weird Gen 1-moves, there's this one story that has been bothering me for years, but I can't find any information about it, so I'm not sure if this is some weird Mandela-effect issue or if I just misremember things.
Back when Red and Blue were released, you of course could also buy those guide-books that walk you through the game. In Germany, we had one coloured in black. On one page, the one that details one of the fights against Giovanni, there was a screenshot of the player using a Charizard... and that Charizard knew a move that doesn't exist, called "Schmerzer" (roughly translates to "Hurter"). Now, I usually would assume that I just misread the thing, since I barely learned how to read back when the games were released. After all, the spelling is pretty close to "Schlitzer", the German name for "Slash". Unfortuneately, I can't find that guide book anymore, so I cannot go check if remember it correctly.
However, around the same time, I also read a random kids gaming magazine, and there was a letter reporting that they had left their Blastoise in daycare for a long time and it came back with a move that also didn't exit, called "Spritzer" (roughly translates to "Squirter"). That, of course, could also be just another case of little children claiming that something totally happened to them ingame.
But anyway, I accepted by now that I probably just remember things wrong. If they really shipped out a guide book that contains a non-existant move, there obviously would've been any kind of coverage online, even if it's just a short "Dafuq is this move?"-post somewhere.
I remember in 1998, a kid at my school had a Pkmn Sticker albums (you know, you buy a packet of stickers at the store, open up the packet, see what stickers you got and fill the album accordingly. No idea the english name) and Lapras' name was Ness, Marowak was Guardia and Kadabra was Pocus.
I can assume the translating process was tediously slow and still not very official back then. So I can imagine you can also find those weird moves in a german game.
@@IceSpoon I've played the German version of the game and neither of these moves were in it... but now that you mention it, it's possible that the screenshot they've used contained some early Alpha translations... so that's an explaination I can get behind!
@@IceSpoon Well whaddaya know, turns out I WAS remembering things correctly! A Nintendo magazine I read has a small section every issue that contains some trivia concerning Nintendo games and last issue actually mentioned Charizard's mystery "Schmerzer"-attack from the official guide book. They didn't have any explaination either, but it's reassuring to know that my memory wasn't playing tricks on me.
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Simpleflips was the last thing I expected to happen in this random (but quality!) video about a pokemon move that popped up in my recommended
Ahh Dragon-rage. A nuzlocker’s nightmare.
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Dragon rage was kind of useful in the early stages of the game and seismic toss damaged ghost types.
I had never heard of the possibility of a desync during link battle! still learning things about this game after all these years.
I like to imagine Psychic and Psywave accidentally got swapped during development and they never cared to fix it
How about: Hold hands
ALL THE POKEMON DO IS HOLD HANDS WITH EACH OTHER. NOTHING ELSE LITERALLY. And it's only learned by some event pokémon (A Vivillon and a Greninja I think)
True but he is talking about gen ONE
In gen 7 z-hold hands was a cool gimmick
@@AnimationEnthusiest I know but for a future video it would be cool if he talked about this one
@@chich-ai ok
@@chich-ai try to ask him?
You should have went more into the desync. That shit seems so cool.
Crystal_ made many videos about link battle desyncs in Gen 1. Enjoy: th-cam.com/play/PLLvtRtlPBbbiUgTUfaik_L0uhvyf8VY0E.html
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It's weird that i wanna make fanart of him?
I’m pretty sure there’s a TM for Bubble of all things in gen 1, so this doesn’t really surprise me
There also is a TM for Softboiled which is only compatible with Chansey and Mew
Misty gives you one for Bubblebeam, but there's also the TM for Water Gun that you can find in Mt. Moon
Not to mention a TM for Teleport (although that move is slightly more useful.)
@Warhawk9012 ONLY in games after Let’s Go Pikachu and Eevee did it get its awesome modern effect, fun fact, Teleport does nothing in Stadium 1, 2, Colosseum and Battle Revolution, and in XD, it only works in Poke Spot battles
Gen I had many issues but honestly I prefer the model of non-reusable and TM exclusive moves. It added an element of strategy of having to carefully pick which Pokémon would get that move. To me that encouraged really knowing who your team was going to be because once you teach that move it’s final.
Thank you for adding the music name lol
where??
You have a pleasant voice to listen to. Subscribed
I love your content! Videos like these are my favorite type of videos on TH-cam
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asumsaus branches out into pokemon content (2020 colourized)
Yes part of mystery of pokemon during the red and blue days was learning what moves did what. You kinda had to try one and see how much damage it was putting out and how often it missed. There wasn't really any tutorials except how to catch a pokemon. Not all of us got guide books from the game shop.
I'm seeing palkia fire blast an onix. What is happening.
I remember as a kid removing psychic for psywave on my Mr mime because my logic was: this one i got for free and this one i had to defeat Sabrina for so obviously the latter is better
Good video, never thought about psywave that much as a move but now I know why exactly I never liked it
Been waiting for this vid since 1999
Great video dude, hopw you make more. Lucky I was reccomended this today
something that i think may be lost on many pokémon players today is that the aesthetics and theme might have been (in many ways) more important than the mechanics and rules of the experience. back then (as in, in an era in which internet access or information about video games were not readily available), there could still exist a true sense of mystery when it came to learning about the world of pokémon. through this lens of discovery and exploration, what better type to associate with some bizarre and obtuse move than the psychic type? it fits perfectly within your role as a young scientist who is studying strange and fascinating creatures. try to imagine the interesting stories a child might be able to build with such a move when telling tales of their adventures to their friends.
I'd like to think psywave was a miscoded move and was meant to due 1-1.5× your level. Not 1 hp but damage equal to your level at minimum. It was meant to be a psychic variant of seismic toss, but that's just my theory
I have no idea why you don't have like hundreds of thousands of views your videos are of really high quality and they're really interesting hope the youtube algorithm doesn't fuck you over love the vids!
Well, at least we have TM12, which contains a super duper powerful move right? Right?
it’s incredible how you can make informative videos on interesting subjects and also make headache inducing shitposts
the developers probably haven't gone into the game mechanics as in depth as we players did ourselves later on. there was probably no idea yet whether pokemon would actually become a lasting and successful franchise and that we players would analyze every corner of data on the cartridge. it was just a cool game for kids and the game testers gave it a thumbs-up. they probably thought psywave is a cool gimmick move, that stood out and would get players interested as it ignored battle stats. that's probably all there is to it. with later gens they probably finally realised it's not nearly as good as intended and they made it into an early game level-up move.
*Pauses at **1:25*
That image of Bulbasaur is adorable.
its lovely to see the name of the sing on the top, class touch
Simpleflips ends the video laughing at me because I've fallen behind on his videos.
AND psywave only has a 80% accuracy in gen I-V
Didnt expect Simpleflips to just appear at the very end but ok I dig it.
The music is freaking good.
upper right corner if you want it. the good one is the kalos power plant theme
I love the fact that it's actually broken
I may be totally oblivious to it's origin, but the version of lavender town played in the beginning is gorgeous.
With dragon rage however it is understandable due to the only dragon being dragonite with it's stats, they were worried that any other dragon attacks were going to be too strong, come gen 3 however and they found better dragon moves and later gens now have even more dragon moves like dragon tail and dragon pulse
So it's basically bubblebeam if you were taught how to use bubblebeam at level 70. dank.
But there's no secondary effect and has a chance to do 1 damage
What makes Dragon Wave even stranger is how it's portrayed in the anime. There's an episode of the first season where a Gyarados uses it and it's so powerful that the main characters get flung away onto an island. And in the Black & White series, Axew knows it and they still make it look much more powerful than it actually is.
that outro tho lmfao
great vid btw 👍🏼
if it was random between .5x-1.5x the users level than at lvl100 it would range between 50-150 averaging 100, than it would at least be on average as good as seismic toss
I love the style of this video, ur gud boi