I was hyped with the arrival of the new apex 2/pro, but considering the inferior water resistance, ant+ loss of support, no mapping details etc, I will keep my apex 46mm and I will invest into pod2 sooner or later. The bundle of my apex 46mm plus polar h9 chest strap and coros pod2 will be better than the most expensive garmin watch!
Thanks for the great hands on review. For the money, I think the Pod 2 is a useful addition to the Pace 2. As for running effort, while I think it has potential, without a wind sensor it is of little value to folks like myself who deal with high winds every run. That metric is what sold me on the Stryd. Perfect for runs on a hilly little island in the Atlantic Ocean. Thanks again.
We'll have to see where they go from here with their mention of including environmental factors in the future with Effort Pace. The concern for me though is that it seems that they are replacing their own Adjusted Pace (or GAP) and that's already a metric people rely on. With the addition of environmental factors it becomes something completely different. Just seems to complicate things unnecessarily.
i have stryd and find it useless on hills. it overestimate uphills and underestimate downhills. also frustrating on short intervals because it takes about 3 secs to update when suddenly changing pace. they say new generation stryd is 5x faster when it comes to picking up the pace but it's also 3x the price of coros pod. if coros pod 2 is fast on picking up sudden pace change then it's the clear winner for me. i'd wait for more reviews
Working only on COROS watches is a bummer. I'm a hardcore Garmin fanboy and am not switching from them for my watches. But if this were ANT+ compatible, or even BT compatible, with Garmin watches I would almost certainly buy one right now. I really like it.
Hey Des, great video review So I'm running Chicago in oct 24, and I tried doing the same comparison between the Coros 2 + POD2 and my main watch Garmin Epix Gen 2 + Stryd. And although your results seem very similar between the different watches im getting a lot of variances in mine. Since GPSs in Chicago cause problems i want to run with either a Stryd or pod setup to have better accuracy during the run, but my data is all over the place. Did a 1hr run with 3 watches Coros + POD Time 1:01:15 Distance 9.40 Avg Pace 6:31 Epix + Stryd Time 1:01:14 Distance 9.03 Avg Pace 6:47 Garmin 645 Music (GPS) Time 1:01:10 Distance 9.07 Avg Pace 6:44 Im wondering if your setup is somehow different or if you used a calibration factor on your stryd. I just reset everything on my stryd and pod, but still the results are the same. Coros states im much faster and cover more ground in the same time as with both garmins. Appreciate any feedback you migh be able to share
I ran 5k (using the Pace 2) downtown amongst some tall buildings and recorded 4 kms at around 4:40 per and one km at a surprise 3:20…I did not switch gears and run 3:20 that 5th km. So I ordered the Pod2. Hoping it will fix these time/distance hiccups when running in these environments. I don’t really care if the running line on map is fixed…more that I get my times and distances corrected. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for the hands on Des! For me this time COROS doesn't really know what they are doing. I'll stick with the Stryd 2022 to be released by the end of this year.
@@scott_strool maybe for each person it differs. Since I'm used to running power calculations, it's easier for me to grab. Maybe ambient temp in the COROS POD 2 would be so nice to have too.
Thanks! I can't really think of a compelling reason to get a footpod if you have a Garmin watch that can take full advantage of the HRM Pro Plus features 👍
Seems a very puzzling product to me in this day and age. From your tests and those on other channels this pod seems to maybe make a Coros watch closer to the performance levels of competitor products "as is" but then in somewhat niche situations anyway. Like if I am doing say a 30 sec sprint I am not looking at my watch every second to see if am going faster! Then there is the fact it is useless to non Coros users (I might have bought one otherwise for maybe treadmill runs) and then the very odd choice of having it on the waist for one set of metrics to another set on the foot. Is it technically possible to pair two pods? The effective dropping of running power thing is also interesting. I tend to agree that all runners "understand" pace and not so many power and commercially trying to "sell" a feature that mostly just confuses runners isn't perhaps the way forward unless you are going to put massive effort in analysis tools to help make any sense of it.
Great review Des! Does the POD 2 show same or similar distance across different shoes on the same course? The current styd footpod has a lot of overreporting and underreporting across various shoes on the same course.
Stryd needs a calibration factor. I've had three footpods and they all underreported distance to a greater or lesser extent, none was accurate out of the box. But get the calibration factor right and it's an amazingly accurate tool.
Thank you for this review, it is exactly what I was looking for. Can you check if the Instant Pace is precise using different shoes? I find that my Stryd is inaccurate if I run with Saucony Speed 2 vs. Hoka Rocket X vs. Nike Vaporfly etc.
Thanks! Although I could see this tracking distance better than GPS for something like tennis I'm also not sure about the accuracy with side to side movements vs fore and aft. I may have to give it a whirl!
Hi, I ran on the treadmill using these pods paired with Apex 2 Pro with different results: 1. If I run slow with speed of 8.5 kph on the treadmill (it should be equivalent to a pace of 7.08 min/km) but on my Apex 2 Pro it detects 8.06 min/km 2. But if I run on a treadmill with a speed of 13.5kph (equivalent to a pace of 4.26 min/km) then the Apex2 Pro displays a pace of 4.20min/km which is not much different between the Pod2 and the Apex2 Pro. I use an apex 2 pro watch on my left hand and a coros pod2 on my left shoe. Any suggestions on how to do it when I run slowly (easy) but can get accurate results?
How long did you calibrate the HRM PRO to get accurate data? (I presume you have it set to report pace and distance ‘Always’ in the settings for the test?)
Hey DesFit! Does the HRM-Pro Plus assist in pace and distance when connected to the garmin or does it replace the GPS data? So you can only use one either data from HRM or garmin GPS?
how accurate is the coros pod 2 on short intervals? i find that is stryd's weak point, although they say new gen is 5x faster on picking up real time pace.
Hi, I was searching through your videos but could not find anything specific. I own Wahoo Bolt, sensors and their HR Monitor. I'm going to take part in Ironman 70.3 next year and was looking for a watch. Wahoo Rival would be the best option due to the other things from Wahoo I own, but Coros Pace 2 seems like so much better option. Do you have any recommendation?
The Pace 2 offers more overall features but as you mentioned a reason to get the Rival would be that you already own a Bolt. The touchless transitions feature is another reason you may consider the Rival though since you're looking at something specific for triathlon.
@@DesFit Thank you for that quick reply. I plan to use some additional stuff such a "Core Body Temp" and so far Wahoo is slow in integrating those things. I currently have a Apple Watch Series 7, which is great for running (minus the battery life) and with new OS update, it has Tri workout. Not sure where I read but wahoo Rival has issue with Freestyle swimming in pool about the data it collects. So while the Tri would be a yearly event, I'd be doing more running events and in that case, the Coros Pace 2 with the Pod 2 seems enticing :). So much confusion
Do you have to choose to get pace and distance data from either the Pod2 or GPS? Or does it track both GPS and the Pod2 at the same time? So if your in a big city marathon and lose GPS what happens? Basically does it work just like Stryd where it doesn’t use GPS at all? Or does it work alongside GPS? Thx for the video!
You van use the GPS and Coros Pod 2 together at the same time on your watch, the Pod 2 corrects the GPS, it is mentioned on the Coros site: "GPS technology can experience interference. Running through tunnels or the first few miles of the Chicago marathon between skyscrapers not only disrupts your watch's pace and distance data, but also creates messy GPS tracks. That's where the POD 2 steps in. With data gathered from various internal sensors, the POD 2 is able to auto-correct GPS disruptions such as pace spikes and drops. Your COROS watch works collaboratively with the POD 2 to improve data consistency during your runs."
Coros site: "Yes, you can connect a POD 1 and POD 2 device at the same time. The POD 2 must be worn on the foot." "No, you cannot connect two POD 2's at the same time."
Coros site: "Yes, you can connect a POD 2 and a heart rate monitor at the same time." Btw, I can pair on my Pace 2 a Coros Pod 1 and a HR strap (ant +) at the same time.
I’d suggest checking out some of my other videos on devices with dual-band satellite technology. Although better than single frequency, there are still situations where satellite signals can be impacted.
Do you know if you can use the pod without a phone or watch on range? I play competitive sport and I can't use the watch, something like this would be great.
I was hyped with the arrival of the new apex 2/pro, but considering the inferior water resistance, ant+ loss of support, no mapping details etc, I will keep my apex 46mm and I will invest into pod2 sooner or later. The bundle of my apex 46mm plus polar h9 chest strap and coros pod2 will be better than the most expensive garmin watch!
Thanks for the great hands on review. For the money, I think the Pod 2 is a useful addition to the Pace 2. As for running effort, while I think it has potential, without a wind sensor it is of little value to folks like myself who deal with high winds every run. That metric is what sold me on the Stryd. Perfect for runs on a hilly little island in the Atlantic Ocean. Thanks again.
We'll have to see where they go from here with their mention of including environmental factors in the future with Effort Pace. The concern for me though is that it seems that they are replacing their own Adjusted Pace (or GAP) and that's already a metric people rely on. With the addition of environmental factors it becomes something completely different. Just seems to complicate things unnecessarily.
i have stryd and find it useless on hills. it overestimate uphills and underestimate downhills. also frustrating on short intervals because it takes about 3 secs to update when suddenly changing pace. they say new generation stryd is 5x faster when it comes to picking up the pace but it's also 3x the price of coros pod. if coros pod 2 is fast on picking up sudden pace change then it's the clear winner for me. i'd wait for more reviews
Thanks you very much. your video analysis is very detailed, very good comparison with strid and garmin.
You're welcome.
I love the Rabbit EZ long sleeve. So comfy and fits nicely!
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Love your reviews! I watch ones even for items I likely have no intention of purchasing but just curious to see what's out there!
Thanks so much!
Working only on COROS watches is a bummer. I'm a hardcore Garmin fanboy and am not switching from them for my watches. But if this were ANT+ compatible, or even BT compatible, with Garmin watches I would almost certainly buy one right now. I really like it.
Yep I feel the same way. Hopefully Garmin creates something like this soon
Hey Des, great video review
So I'm running Chicago in oct 24, and I tried doing the same comparison between the Coros 2 + POD2 and my main watch Garmin Epix Gen 2 + Stryd. And although your results seem very similar between the different watches im getting a lot of variances in mine. Since GPSs in Chicago cause problems i want to run with either a Stryd or pod setup to have better accuracy during the run, but my data is all over the place.
Did a 1hr run with 3 watches
Coros + POD
Time 1:01:15
Distance 9.40
Avg Pace 6:31
Epix + Stryd
Time 1:01:14
Distance 9.03
Avg Pace 6:47
Garmin 645 Music (GPS)
Time 1:01:10
Distance 9.07
Avg Pace 6:44
Im wondering if your setup is somehow different or if you used a calibration factor on your stryd. I just reset everything on my stryd and pod, but still the results are the same. Coros states im much faster and cover more ground in the same time as with both garmins.
Appreciate any feedback you migh be able to share
Great video. Thank you!
Thanks!
I ran 5k (using the Pace 2) downtown amongst some tall buildings and recorded 4 kms at around 4:40 per and one km at a surprise 3:20…I did not switch gears and run 3:20 that 5th km. So I ordered the Pod2.
Hoping it will fix these time/distance hiccups when running in these environments.
I don’t really care if the running line on map is fixed…more that I get my times and distances corrected.
Thanks for the video!
Is your problem fixed now?
Thanks for the hands on Des! For me this time COROS doesn't really know what they are doing. I'll stick with the Stryd 2022 to be released by the end of this year.
You're welcome! Ya this accessory seems it's solving some latency in their watches but other uses aren't necessarily there.
I'll be getting one. Effort pace is something I can understand, power is not as meaningful to running imo.
@@scott_strool maybe for each person it differs. Since I'm used to running power calculations, it's easier for me to grab. Maybe ambient temp in the COROS POD 2 would be so nice to have too.
@@tommyle628 i look at Power but I do not adjust my workout based on the value.
Great video as always. Quick Question do you think that we need a pod generally even if we have a HRM Pro plus for instance?
Thanks! I can't really think of a compelling reason to get a footpod if you have a Garmin watch that can take full advantage of the HRM Pro Plus features 👍
Better running power on hills/trails would have been the main reason for me buying it.
Seems a very puzzling product to me in this day and age. From your tests and those on other channels this pod seems to maybe make a Coros watch closer to the performance levels of competitor products "as is" but then in somewhat niche situations anyway. Like if I am doing say a 30 sec sprint I am not looking at my watch every second to see if am going faster! Then there is the fact it is useless to non Coros users (I might have bought one otherwise for maybe treadmill runs) and then the very odd choice of having it on the waist for one set of metrics to another set on the foot. Is it technically possible to pair two pods? The effective dropping of running power thing is also interesting. I tend to agree that all runners "understand" pace and not so many power and commercially trying to "sell" a feature that mostly just confuses runners isn't perhaps the way forward unless you are going to put massive effort in analysis tools to help make any sense of it.
Do you have a long term update on the Pod 2? Also any comparison to the updated Stryd? Thank you ☃️
Great review Des! Does the POD 2 show same or similar distance across different shoes on the same course? The current styd footpod has a lot of overreporting and underreporting across various shoes on the same course.
Your awesome 👏👏👏
Thanks and you too!
Stryd needs a calibration factor. I've had three footpods and they all underreported distance to a greater or lesser extent, none was accurate out of the box. But get the calibration factor right and it's an amazingly accurate tool.
they already have that 🤔 at least for garmins
To add, calibrations may vary according to shoes.
So if you buy the coros pod 2 it will make the pace delay less?
seems like a price friendly alternative to runscribe
I ordered it on a marketplace , will see , because i feel that my pace 2 isn’t quite responsive
Thank you for this review, it is exactly what I was looking for. Can you check if the Instant Pace is precise using different shoes? I find that my Stryd is inaccurate if I run with Saucony Speed 2 vs. Hoka Rocket X vs. Nike Vaporfly etc.
That's classic stryd problem.tha's why I return my stryd.
Hi Des, top review, thx man! One question, what do you think about using this in tennis? To record data like pace, distance...
Thanks! Although I could see this tracking distance better than GPS for something like tennis I'm also not sure about the accuracy with side to side movements vs fore and aft. I may have to give it a whirl!
Amazing vídeo des. I have a question, That increase in accuraccy with the hrm pro plus can be obtained with the hrm run? Talking about garmin devices
Thanks! Unfortunately the pace/distance accuracy bits for running are only supported with the HRM Pro and HRM Pro Plus.
Can you compare to stryd pod, new gen will be released soon
Yup, that's the plan! 👍
Im looking for something to give me more accurate pacing's when im on a treadmill. If you had to choose, would you go for POD 2 or Stryd???
Hi,
I ran on the treadmill using these pods paired with Apex 2 Pro with different results:
1. If I run slow with speed of 8.5 kph on the treadmill (it should be equivalent to a pace of 7.08 min/km) but on my Apex 2 Pro it detects 8.06 min/km
2. But if I run on a treadmill with a speed of 13.5kph (equivalent to a pace of 4.26 min/km) then the Apex2 Pro displays a pace of 4.20min/km which is not much different between the Pod2 and the Apex2 Pro.
I use an apex 2 pro watch on my left hand and a coros pod2 on my left shoe.
Any suggestions on how to do it when I run slowly (easy) but can get accurate results?
Can you use this with COROS pod 1 so you can get both metrics
Des aren’t going to review the Suunto 9 peak pro?
Already in the works!
Hello, just curious. Can a user wear two Coros Pod 2, one on foot & one at waist? Does it will give data from both location that the user wear?
Does the Garmin RD Pod also report Pace data or is that only a feature of the HRM Pro Plus Strap?
It does not.
How long did you calibrate the HRM PRO to get accurate data? (I presume you have it set to report pace and distance ‘Always’ in the settings for the test?)
My coros pace 2 delay showing pace ,can it fix the laggy?
Hey DesFit! Does the HRM-Pro Plus assist in pace and distance when connected to the garmin or does it replace the GPS data? So you can only use one either data from HRM or garmin GPS?
The pace and distance feature is really only utilized for indoor running however running outdoors with it will help calibrate it for indoor use.
@@DesFitThanks!
how accurate is the coros pod 2 on short intervals? i find that is stryd's weak point, although they say new gen is 5x faster on picking up real time pace.
Those were pretty short intervals that I had in the video 👍
if i only need pace and distance from a pod, is it better than stryd?
Hi, I was searching through your videos but could not find anything specific. I own Wahoo Bolt, sensors and their HR Monitor. I'm going to take part in Ironman 70.3 next year and was looking for a watch. Wahoo Rival would be the best option due to the other things from Wahoo I own, but Coros Pace 2 seems like so much better option. Do you have any recommendation?
The Pace 2 offers more overall features but as you mentioned a reason to get the Rival would be that you already own a Bolt. The touchless transitions feature is another reason you may consider the Rival though since you're looking at something specific for triathlon.
@@DesFit Thank you for that quick reply. I plan to use some additional stuff such a "Core Body Temp" and so far Wahoo is slow in integrating those things. I currently have a Apple Watch Series 7, which is great for running (minus the battery life) and with new OS update, it has Tri workout. Not sure where I read but wahoo Rival has issue with Freestyle swimming in pool about the data it collects. So while the Tri would be a yearly event, I'd be doing more running events and in that case, the Coros Pace 2 with the Pod 2 seems enticing :). So much confusion
Are you going to review the Amazfit Falcon?
On my list!
@@DesFit 👍🏻
Do you have to choose to get pace and distance data from either the Pod2 or GPS? Or does it track both GPS and the Pod2 at the same time?
So if your in a big city marathon and lose GPS what happens? Basically does it work just like Stryd where it doesn’t use GPS at all? Or does it work alongside GPS?
Thx for the video!
You van use the GPS and Coros Pod 2 together at the same time on your watch, the Pod 2 corrects the GPS, it is mentioned on the Coros site: "GPS technology can experience interference. Running through
tunnels or the first few miles of the Chicago marathon between
skyscrapers not only disrupts your watch's pace and distance data,
but also creates messy GPS tracks. That's where the POD 2 steps in.
With data gathered from various internal sensors, the POD 2 is able
to auto-correct GPS disruptions such as pace spikes and drops.
Your COROS watch works collaboratively with the POD 2 to improve
data consistency during your runs."
@@XLJansen tested the pod2. Sent it back. Not very good IMO
Hi Des!!
Does it make sense to wear both pods at the same time (Data freak), resp. is it possible?
Coros site: "Yes, you can connect a POD 1 and POD 2 device at the same time. The POD 2 must be worn on the foot." "No, you cannot connect two POD 2's at the same time."
Given coros is unexplainable dropping of ant+, can you not use the pod 2 and a HR strap at the same time on the newer watches?
Coros site: "Yes, you can connect a POD 2 and a heart rate monitor at the same time."
Btw, I can pair on my Pace 2 a Coros Pod 1 and a HR strap (ant +) at the same time.
@@XLJansenlink please. The coros website also states you can only pair one device per connection type.
How was the accuracy with the curved treadmill?!
Unfortunately wasn't able to get on a curved treadmill for this review but I hope to have access this weekend
With multi band gps pods aren’t really necessary
I’d suggest checking out some of my other videos on devices with dual-band satellite technology. Although better than single frequency, there are still situations where satellite signals can be impacted.
Do you know if you can use the pod without a phone or watch on range? I play competitive sport and I can't use the watch, something like this would be great.
Unfortunately not, You'll need a COROS watch to collect any data from the POD 2.
@@DesFit many thanks for replying! I hope some of the competitors does it at some point