@Xavier Flavor doubt they would do much, dealers list these cars used right at MSRP new. Not sure why people buy these cars used, it's crazy how much they hold their value.
I’m glad that they didn’t ignored me when I told them not to remove the plastics on the body and the seats. It was fresh off of the truck. No wash or swirl marks. It still even had the plastic on my 2019 sti limited. No drill front plate
@@HeroJirro ej205*. he is right. Subaru haven't confirmed anything regarding the EJ257. But they have confirmed and just posted a goodbye video for the EJ205.
Just woke up and watched this with my 3 year old he loves rally / Subaru videos and for a 3 year old to have a 26 min attention span is a good compliment joe 😂. You make all the right points that make us love these cars.
Thanks Raiti for your review, I was an EVO guy but playing this video over and over I just had to get one. Got the White 20' STi base model, love every time I get into it.
I like the “old” rumbling EJ motor I fell in love with when I was a kid. in a newer, safer, stiffer chassis with big brakes, hydraulic steering, MANUAL transmission... people hate on it but I love my ‘18 STI. I do wish it was 50 hp more though🤫
juSTIn Turner it only “rumbled” because of a poorly engineered inefficient header design.... a kid near me made his own custom fab’d headers on his little beater 1.7L EM2 civic daily, sounds just like a Subaru... my Speed6 also has a very unequal manifold stock and it also rumbles... swap to a quality CP-e or Full Race manifold and you lose the rumble but gain better spool, transient response, and more power.
Because of your Subaru Forester Sport review at the other dealer in Port Richey I called them to buy the car!! We made a deal on my trade and the difference in cash payment. Last minute their manager said they can’t do that deal and I wound up not doing business with them. Point is, your review led me to purchasing a car from that dealer.. and I live in TN! Dealer pulled back at last minute, was not your fault or mine. Keep up good work! Sal
I own a 2019 Series Gray. The back seat does have space but not behind my seat, but maybe because I'm 6ft4 😅 complaints from almost exactly a year of ownership, head-unit had to be replaced twice, android auto/apple carplay sticks the entire thing sometimes and deletes any presets. Passenger seat airbags randomly disables with someone sitting there. Another warranty issue. 3rd gear randomly shuts me out even in normal driving conditions. Clutch needed to be replaced at 15000kms. Not my fault, another warranty issue. I know manuals lose power with the AC on but Jesus does it die with the AC on. Like way more than I would've expected. To do a pull on the highway, I literally turned it off. Brakes squeal alot sometimes. Not regular just washed/cold weather squealing. But actual squealing. All in all, I'm pretty modified now, so it's fine for me at the moment because I got rid of most of the problems (but also got rid of the warranty lmao). But hopefully they fix alot of the minor problems. Been a Subaru owner for years, but I think this is my last one. For the price of competitors, I may unfortunately do the switch.
@@RaitisRides it is what it is. Every car has some issues and none are perfect. I really hope the big refresh changes my mind. Because since my Hawkeye back in 06 to now, love the cars and the heritage that comes with it. But my motto, is if there's problems, mod them away haha
I was never into cars. My best friend told me to try the 18 Rex and i fell in love and i modded it to the point of not blowing up the engine. I’m doing a video soon to show what it’s like modding it to the point of not blowing up the engine and i really love it. Great review! But I’m glad i bought a base 18 Rex. Cheers! ❤️
I was really hoping for some big changes but after watching I’m really glad they didn’t. I have a 15 which is pretty much the same thing and I love it. In a way, when they do finally change it up, it’ll be sad to see it go. Anyway great video like always. I love the performance car reviews you do.
Totally worth it! It's an awesome car! Front seat upper bolstering is comfortable and supportive. You have to test drive to understand the planted hug turning feel of this car! So much fun to drive! Great job Joe, Tom and Lori! Love the new merch sweatshirt, hats, drawstring bag, dog bandana, etc! Congrats Tom aka Big Guns McGee! 128k subscribers will soon surpass 200k!
Haha turning feel? Subarus placement of their engine is the worst possible, forward to the front axle which causes immense understeer due to polar moment, causing Subaru losing streak of years to Citroen and even Ford in the WRC leading to their retiring. Don't believe the hype of low sense of gravity mumbo jumbo, as long as the engine is placed behind the front axle even if it is sat on the hood it will turn better than the boxer. Couple that with the weight of the AWD axle, you are left behind on track days.
I absolutely love my 2019 STI Limited, but I'd definitely LOVE it a lot more with another 100 horsepower or so. I personally like the black wheels better than these.
I drive a 2016 STI every day and I´m still in love with it. It´s a shame that we can not buy the next generations of WRX STI in Germany. Thanks for this nice video. Liked and subbed! 👍
The engine HAS had a significant upgrades; More specifically to the fuel delivery. They switched to direct fuel injection instead of port which is basically where the extra horsepower came from. Its also why the engine sounds different from the older models. There has been other changes, better timings, more optimal connecting rod length. (now at a staggered setup) Variable Valve timing (VVT) upgrades have been more prominent in the 2016+ models. In fact, the only thing that remains the same from 2004 to 2020 is the block itself. I do realize that is basically THE ENGINE, but there is a lot going on around it to make it run faster, better and efficient.
incorrect. EJ is not DIT, don't know where you heard that from but that's super incorrect. the block is the same but different. changed in 2018. everything 2018 and up takes the same type RA block.
Thing is what I always loved about this engine is that it feels more emotional than new engines. New engines run perfect, there's nothing wrong with them. But I like engine with character. I like the boost lag and when it kicks in. It gives the car personality. That was the buying argument for me. Mine has the push start as well and it's a 2018. But what bummed me was that the year directly after got the new head unit. But those fog light covers are sexy damn. But guess what. It is a plug and play for my 2018 lol
These motors are running from the factory. Also. All test drives people floor the cars anyways. I've yet to see an issue with the said 500 miles. I floored the shit out of my BRZ when it was brand new with 12 miles on it. Sold it last year at 136k miles and never had an issue. Just replaced the battery at 74k miles
Love your STI reviews Joe because you are a true STI enthusiast. My 2019 has the optional center armrest as well but do not mind not have alcantara. My grubby elbow would be causing a dirt spot on that versus rubberized material.
Just an Evo driver popping in to say hey. Good luck with the headgasket. And enjoy this one boys. Final edition, like we had with the evo and the friendly historical rivalry Subaru and Mitsubishi had in the wrc, its sad to see them now both come to end. Rip.
U know what Joe I'd like to take a brief minute here and say that my love for Subaru WRX'S and STI'S will never fade away from me and my love and passion for cars🙏🙏♥️♥️🤝🤝. Personally Joe I actually really fricking love White on WRX STI'S in my opinion, yes I know that the World Rally Blue is very common on basically every STI that I've seen, but this will absolutely do it for me. Those Wheels & Calipers r absolutely stunning in every way possible, goes amazingly with the White ♥️. The Short Throw Shifter is flawless absolutely flawless in every way under the sun ♥️♥️♥️. Would love to see a in depth review and update on your 2018 Subaru WRX STI Type RA 1 of these day's. Bless u Joe 🙏🙏♥️♥️🤝🤝. Thanks Joe. Keep up the great work and reviews.
@@RaitisRides Bless u Joe for your outstanding performance and hard work everyday, it puts such a huge smile on my face ❤❤❤. SUBARU FOREVER!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤.
From Central Florida - Purchased a 2019 STI in April - Black, ST shifter, PB start, Recaros. Great car. Retired so have owned many cars but nothing that feels like the STI. Looking forward to next generation and may add one so we’ll see. Wife has always had a Forester - Currently she has a 2019.
I hope you’re not pushing that over 4k. Believe during the first 1k miles you’re supposed to keep it under 4k RPM’s am sounded like you were much higher. I doubt it did anything but something to be aware of.
Still a great car! Personally I like my 2015 STI wheels better, but I can see how the new rims could possible grow on you after time. I don't know why they switch to a rubber material for the arm rest. Great classic turbo fun, yes. Very excited about the 2021 model coming out the end of next year. Great review Joe on the 2020 STI!!
Just bought a 2020 sti. The interior basically looks the same since 2016. The car is a little bit longer I measured it with a different sti. Shifting is a little hard but overall i love the car. This was my first manual car and i did learn with this vehicle😂. It has amazing grip and raiti is honestly pretty spot on for everything. Once u get a new exhaust, it really feels 10x better! Clutch is high and u have to give gas before u let go of the clutch for the low gears.
Congrats bro! Yes i had mine for 3 weeks and your right shifting feels hard - maybe need a heavier gear knob to make shifting better. Which exhaust did you end up getting? Im getting the Invidia R400
Yo. Love the vids. One thing for your watchers. The manufacturer guidelines specifically state to break in the motor for the first 1000 miles. This means under 4k 4PMS. When you get yours be sure to break in properly if you plan to mod later. At least to stage 2. Sounds dumb but I've owned or still own every iteration of this motor. I can say it makes a huge difference in day to day reliability. If you plan to replace pistons anyway. Blow that sucker up! Lol
Love that Subaru as a company has the bandwidth to keep this niche market fulfilled! I'm in Vermont and WRX/STI are a dime a dozen, but it's important that they sell to keep things competitive. I'm hoping they outfit the new STI with something truly assertive. Give it a new 3L engine with the same size turbo so it sets itself apart from the current 2L fa20dit. 330hp from factory, upgrade the turbo and your 3L STI hits 500whp all day. Wouldn't that be the dream for enthusiasts looking for a reason to buy an STI over a WRX other than the trans?
Was thinking of trading my Nissan 370Z for an sti since I have a son but is it worth even trading since they don’t push as much horse power as my Nissan does. Opinion ?
This Sti is more then a GT or GT1 AWD Stinger.My neighbor just got a Nismo 370 Z and I got a stinger within a week of each other.I have a 2020 AWD Stinger GT 3.3TT and it would eat the STI's lunch--and my neighbors Nismo--he will not even dig after a ride in my stinger.Stinger has torque down low--1300 RPM--so it can get off the line quick.10 year warranty--0 to 60 mid 4--167 MPH top speed--and a very advanced AWD system attached to a durable ZF 8 speed--I am also getting 23 to 25 MPG in mix and I drive 10 over the speed limit.
Can somebody tell me when the preview for the 2021 Subaru will be up?? Does anyone know what will likely change? I'm thinking about buying and STI but don't know if I should wait for 2021
Joe, this is one of the most perfect cars on earth IMO. It’s practical, has four doors, a real backseat, AWD for the Northeast horrible winters. It’s reliable, great looking, fun as hell...My one big Zonk is the gas mileage. It’s horrible. Your lucky if you get 20mpg with this thing. Other than that, I just still love the WRX & the STi. Fantastic review as usual. It seems like you do several reviews per day! I can’t keep up with you!
Smiles per gallon 😁, these are amazing cars, I been test driving Gt350 and Supercharged mustangs and those just don't do it for me like the STI does. I feel comfortable in the STI, it has swagger without being too flashy.
Reliable? Spun bearings and ringlands burning out on completely stock engines with less then 20k miles comes to mind.... high maintenance is the right definition
You can only fit 1.5 wheels in the trunk the rest are in the back seat. I know you said put the seat down but it’s not like you are really fitting them in the truck.
Yeah the Subaru WRX STi really is where it’s at. If Ford didn’t work so hard to go above and beyond making the Focus RS so great at its price point with the 350hp in their manual hatch, and Honda didn’t perfect the “Family Performance Track Car” aspect of the $35,000 Honda Type R with a 306hp FWD design that embarrasses “sports” cars more than double its price like the bmw M2 on tracks, the AWD Subaru WRX STi would be in a lot more garages 💪🔥. The Zonks only start to come in when you look to Honda and Ford’s specs and see what you get for the Subaru’s price. How in the world did Honda’s FWD Civic platform create the superior handling car with faster acceleration at 35k than Subaru’s historical AWD rally heritage? Could you imagine if Honda put Acura’s SH-AWD inside a Type R? How did Ford’s regular economy Focus platform based RS create a Hatchback that can handle more stock Horsepower and offer an AWD sensation that’s just as exciting? Mitsubishi leaving with the 2008 financial banking recession crisis has left Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda slacking I tell ya, now Hyundai is aiming its sights onto them with their Veloster N racing division
Myself being a loyal Honda Civic si driver for 5 years. I think it’s time for a change im really looking into getting a 2020 Subaru wrx Sti super cool car
In the short time you drove it. Did you feel any difference between the 2020 and your Type RA? Great video Joe! Look forward to seeing what they do with the 2021. I do think people are going to miss the EJ in the coming years though.
You should not go over 4k on a new sti during the first 1000 miles. If you do theres a chance your rings wont seat correctly and the car will then become an oil consumer. Great review cant wait to see the Next model.
Did Subaru make an official announcement that this is the last one of the current gen? I did not hear anything, but i could have missed it. Please point me to your source. By the way, I heard the rumor the next gen STi will have electric motors, is it true?
They never said anything lol. I have a 2019, would love one with a new engine. They sell so many there’s no real reason to upgrade, the car kicks ass in its category. No 1! Once sales drop MAYBE they’ll upgrade the engine I think. Soon would be nice
Ordered a 2020 STI limited in pearl white with short throw shifter on September 7th. Tomorrow will be 4 weeks. The wait is tough;) thanks for the awesome review!
@@RaitisRides Thank you. One question I have for you good sir. Does it seem the stock mapping has changed? Being it's more linear? I thought I heard they may have put a more of a 209 map in it . Thanks
@@JeremyERevo i know that. A tune doesn't add another 40hp bro. Also if you know that. Then why are you asking if it had more of a "s209 tune". Seems like you're asking a question that you know the answer to. 😂
I wonder how many cars you would sell if there was a “buy now” option on your videos. I think it might be a quite a few. Seems like a business model someone should exploit. Maybe a collaboration with Carvana or some else with that ship anywhere/money back guarantee car business?
Jorge Zero. TH-cam is used by broke people to replace TV, anyone with enough money to click a “buy now” button are not on TH-cam. Don’t get shit twisted, TH-cam is for those that can’t afford TV and certainly not a car.
I’m so disappointed that they discontinued the STI I wanted to get one brand new but now im gonna have to get one used not knowing how much of a beat down it was given! 🤦🏻♂️😞
They don't build them like that anymore... the stick, the power delivery, the hydraulic steering. The STi is one of the very few cars under $100k that really makes driving fun, on top being an all weather car. The practicality and rally heritage is just icing on the cake.
Does the CVT in the Civic have the same concerns as the CVT in the WRX when modifications are introduced? (that is, very limited aftermarket parts, high replacement cost, and some concerns of damage due to high torque + heat.) If so, a MT WRX is probably the way to go. Alternatively, if you prefer auto, the DSG of the VW GTI and Golf R are worth a look IMHO.
I feel very old , I remembered back in 2006 when I bought my 2006 sti ,white with gold rims , blue seats and gold brembo calipers , ej25 would always be in my heart , STI ❤️ the end of a generation.
100! Most Subaru dealerships wont even let you take an accompanied test drive in an STi... meanwhile over at Porsche they'll give you the keys to a Carrera S and say see you in an hour.
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807 tell that the Honda Civic Type-R, the Focus RS or the other such hot hatches around ! The day of sedans are long gone, and I certainly will not miss them.
@@OBrandt-i5c gladly. The Weight distribution is way off. It’s science. Also I wouldn’t consider the 2014 Wrx hatch A hot hatch. A true hot hatch is the Hyundai velocity N. Or of the upcoming Corolla performance car. However I would never buy that car. A true Rally car is a sedan. For the type R and older Subaru hatches. Or any hatch it’s all just extra weight.
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807 so the Focus RS, is also not a good enough rally car for you......it being a hatch ? ;) Also, the Hyundai Veloster N is also a hatch, right ? So seems like everything we are talking about, are hatches, and not sedans !
Great review Joe and the STI is truly an amazing car I think there have been no major changes as they have a wining formula which still makes great sales. I really like the small changes year to year and although the spoiler is iconic I think I’d build it without. Keep the videos coming
those fog covers still dont do anything, those holes are just for symmetry since the right hand one has one of the horns behind it, they put hole on it.
@@RaitisRides Yeah, it is a fuel pump, injectors, and E85 pro tune away from being a lot more peppier. That is easy stuff in the end. One of the last manual gas sedans!! Crazy.
Hey Joe, I heard there’s going to be a Final Edition STI with Gold forged BBS wheels and a few other goodies with a limited run of 555 units! Do you know if that’s for Japan or USA? And I think only available in Blue or Black
It's Japan only. In Japan the STI has the EJ20 engine not the EJ25. It's limited to 555 cars and because demand is so high there will be a lottery. So I don't think it's going to the USA. I'm in Australia and like Japan are cars here are right hand drive and there's no word of it coming here. But like you I'm interested to see what limited options Subaru will be offering over the next year or so. Hopefully some gold wheels!
I think that's a limited edition 555 units with the legendary EJ20 engine. Subaru decided to rest the EJ20 for good... therefore, that's the 555 units to commemorate the successful wrc rally team 555. It's only for Japan.
It's just being advertised in Japan now, the WRX STI EJ20 Final Edition. With applications taken for it from October 23. No specs yet, just some glossy pictures of a prototype. It does have those lovely BBS gold rims and STI Branded Recaro seats. I would not be surprised that if it is oversubscribed, we'll be seeing an STI Final Final Version a few months later; then the Ultimate Really Final EJ20 version, as Subaru milk the demand for this car.
The 2019 all blacks rims are better
Yes I like my 2019 wheels better but I might go down to 18" wheels when it's time for new tires.
@@CarStory I feel you man 19" tires are a lot more expensive than 18's
2017 Wrx I don’t share your opinion. I like these!
Yep I'd worry about the machined aluminum eventually flaking and corroding
I like them etter!
I am so happy and proud to own a 2019 STI. In honor of this video I'm going for a night drive with my moon roof open.
Drive safe!!
That sounds nice. However, I have an '18 Elantra Sport... and I've been drinking. Haha
Pain Killer I did, and I enjoyed watching the headlight move from left to right with every turn!
That is so awesome!
Yes indeed!
Tbh they could probably sell this same car for the next 10 years and people would still buy 😂
That's because they have no other choice...
They have been! LOL
So very right!
@@konglee7284 why dont they have any other choice? Excuse my ignorance.
the ej is costing them more than they're making with how many they have to warranty at this point so i doubt it.
Glad I got my '19 straight off the delivery truck so I didn't have to worry about some Yahoo ignoring the break in period
@Xavier Flavor doubt they would do much, dealers list these cars used right at MSRP new. Not sure why people buy these cars used, it's crazy how much they hold their value.
They washed my '19 series grey although I asked them not to for delivery and I got it swirled 😭
@@nicknh3344 me too, but no swirls luckily
I’m glad that they didn’t ignored me when I told them not to remove the plastics on the body and the seats. It was fresh off of the truck. No wash or swirl marks. It still even had the plastic on my 2019 sti limited. No drill front plate
I’m not a fan of the 2020 rims. In my opinion 2019’s looked better
Samuel Rowland
I completely agree , these wheels are hideous !
Rubberbands
it doesnt suit a rally car
Samuel Rowland in real they look better. I like em!
Agreed. Wheels look horrific
They aren’t discontinuing the STI, they’re discontinuing the EJ205 engine.
ej257*
@@HeroJirro ej205*. he is right. Subaru haven't confirmed anything regarding the EJ257. But they have confirmed and just posted a goodbye video for the EJ205.
HeroJirro American STIs have been using the ej205 since 04 when they first came to the states. Ej253 and 257 are the NA versions.
Xan I see my bad thanks for the intel and also the guy above!
@@zystei Are you sure you don't mean the ej207 and the ej257 respectively for the STi?
That old school feel. This car has it. Instant favorite. Enough to buy?
50/50
Good input! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Love the new zonked! shirt. Only thing missing is a red arrow pointing to a fake vent... that would have been priceless.
That is so awesome! Great feedback!
Just woke up and watched this with my 3 year old he loves rally / Subaru videos and for a 3 year old to have a 26 min attention span is a good compliment joe 😂. You make all the right points that make us love these cars.
Thanks Brad for saying that! It really means a lot! I appreciate you sharing the car passion with your son.
Lets hear the rumble.
Me: where is the rumble?
stock mufflers are so restrictive, i immediately get a new axleback
Yup, FA engine took the rumble away
TheManny BG the sti doesn’t have the FA so it does still have the rumble.
Yeah I said the same🤣 but the FA does have a rumble, all you need is UELs
The audio on TH-cam won't do it justice tbh. They sound better in person
That thing looks fabulous in white!
The Real Brendon best color imo
I'm getting mine in white then having the roof vinyled black. It's a good looking automobile for sure.
white is the best color for this body style imo
Thanks Raiti for your review, I was an EVO guy but playing this video over and over I just had to get one. Got the White 20' STi base model, love every time I get into it.
I like the “old” rumbling EJ motor I fell in love with when I was a kid. in a newer, safer, stiffer chassis with big brakes, hydraulic steering, MANUAL transmission... people hate on it but I love my ‘18 STI. I do wish it was 50 hp more though🤫
Very good points Justin!
juSTIn Turner it only “rumbled” because of a poorly engineered inefficient header design.... a kid near me made his own custom fab’d headers on his little beater 1.7L EM2 civic daily, sounds just like a Subaru... my Speed6 also has a very unequal manifold stock and it also rumbles... swap to a quality CP-e or Full Race manifold and you lose the rumble but gain better spool, transient response, and more power.
Wrx sti are made for tuning.
Custom turbo back exhaust olus tune. Problem solved.
juSTIn Turner I just bought a 2020
Because of your Subaru Forester Sport review at the other dealer in Port
Richey I called them to buy the car!! We made a deal on my trade and the difference in cash payment. Last minute their manager said they can’t do that deal and I wound up not doing business with them. Point is, your review led me to purchasing a car from that dealer.. and I live in TN! Dealer pulled back at last minute, was not your fault or mine. Keep up good work! Sal
Hey Sal! I wish I would of known. I could of got the deal done with the GM for you.
Thanks man... we can always count on you to bring us the latest, even with minor redesigns like this year.
I own a 2019 Series Gray. The back seat does have space but not behind my seat, but maybe because I'm 6ft4 😅
complaints from almost exactly a year of ownership, head-unit had to be replaced twice, android auto/apple carplay sticks the entire thing sometimes and deletes any presets.
Passenger seat airbags randomly disables with someone sitting there. Another warranty issue.
3rd gear randomly shuts me out even in normal driving conditions.
Clutch needed to be replaced at 15000kms. Not my fault, another warranty issue.
I know manuals lose power with the AC on but Jesus does it die with the AC on. Like way more than I would've expected. To do a pull on the highway, I literally turned it off.
Brakes squeal alot sometimes. Not regular just washed/cold weather squealing. But actual squealing.
All in all, I'm pretty modified now, so it's fine for me at the moment because I got rid of most of the problems (but also got rid of the warranty lmao). But hopefully they fix alot of the minor problems. Been a Subaru owner for years, but I think this is my last one. For the price of competitors, I may unfortunately do the switch.
Thanks for letting us in on your ownership experience. I am sorry to hear that you had those issues.
@@RaitisRides it is what it is. Every car has some issues and none are perfect. I really hope the big refresh changes my mind. Because since my Hawkeye back in 06 to now, love the cars and the heritage that comes with it. But my motto, is if there's problems, mod them away haha
I wish i have a series grey !!!
Great review! I have so much respect for Subaru for still staying strong and keeping such a fun/affordable car in production. Thank you!
March 2022 here! The STI has been discontinued! 🥺😭😞
I was never into cars. My best friend told me to try the 18 Rex and i fell in love and i modded it to the point of not blowing up the engine. I’m doing a video soon to show what it’s like modding it to the point of not blowing up the engine and i really love it. Great review! But I’m glad i bought a base 18 Rex. Cheers! ❤️
Thanks for sharing that great story!
Y’all hating on the rims but to me they are perfect and stand out 😻
short throw shifter ❌
short shift throw ✅
love your videos Raiti keep it up. this is my dream dad car.
I was really hoping for some big changes but after watching I’m really glad they didn’t. I have a 15 which is pretty much the same thing and I love it. In a way, when they do finally change it up, it’ll be sad to see it go. Anyway great video like always. I love the performance car reviews you do.
Thanks Tom! I really appreciate your support and input!
Have to wait for the 21 as subaru does a certain generation for atleast 5 years. 02-07, 08-14, 15-20.
Kinda crazy the s209 will be a 19 model when the 2020 is already out
makes u wonder..S210 for 2020?...
2020 made in 2019
@@SpottedCow1604 doubtful but we can hope I think there won't be one till minimum 22 but we will see
I think they had to get special approval to sell the S209 in the US as one model year only because it isn’t made by Subaru
Always enjoy watching your reviews. Said it before on how you truly educate the viewer on car maker history. Great review as always!
Totally worth it! It's an awesome car! Front seat upper bolstering is comfortable and supportive. You have to test drive to understand the planted hug turning feel of this car! So much fun to drive! Great job Joe, Tom and Lori! Love the new merch sweatshirt, hats, drawstring bag, dog bandana, etc! Congrats Tom aka Big Guns McGee! 128k subscribers will soon surpass 200k!
You are so awesome Jeanette! We can't do it without you and Frank!
Haha turning feel? Subarus placement of their engine is the worst possible, forward to the front axle which causes immense understeer due to polar moment, causing Subaru losing streak of years to Citroen and even Ford in the WRC leading to their retiring. Don't believe the hype of low sense of gravity mumbo jumbo, as long as the engine is placed behind the front axle even if it is sat on the hood it will turn better than the boxer.
Couple that with the weight of the AWD axle, you are left behind on track days.
I absolutely love my 2019 STI Limited, but I'd definitely LOVE it a lot more with another 100 horsepower or so. I personally like the black wheels better than these.
That is so awesome! I am glad she is treating you well.
Lol I have about 100hp more... You just end up wanting 200hp more. That's how it works :p
@@BathSaltBadger Facts
I drive a 2016 STI every day and I´m still in love with it. It´s a shame that we can not buy the next generations of WRX STI in Germany. Thanks for this nice video. Liked and subbed! 👍
The engine HAS had a significant upgrades; More specifically to the fuel delivery. They switched to direct fuel injection instead of port which is basically where the extra horsepower came from. Its also why the engine sounds different from the older models. There has been other changes, better timings, more optimal connecting rod length. (now at a staggered setup) Variable Valve timing (VVT) upgrades have been more prominent in the 2016+ models.
In fact, the only thing that remains the same from 2004 to 2020 is the block itself. I do realize that is basically THE ENGINE, but there is a lot going on around it to make it run faster, better and efficient.
incorrect. EJ is not DIT, don't know where you heard that from but that's super incorrect. the block is the same but different. changed in 2018. everything 2018 and up takes the same type RA block.
Thing is what I always loved about this engine is that it feels more emotional than new engines. New engines run perfect, there's nothing wrong with them. But I like engine with character. I like the boost lag and when it kicks in. It gives the car personality. That was the buying argument for me. Mine has the push start as well and it's a 2018. But what bummed me was that the year directly after got the new head unit.
But those fog light covers are sexy damn. But guess what. It is a plug and play for my 2018 lol
I totally agree with your points!
"The room in your house where the magic happens".
Me: You mean in my room where my computer is?
Admiral Ackbar in the room with the toilet
7:20 damn when you said lets pop the hood for the last time, that really made me sad lol :'(
I know exactly how you feel!
Made me a little sad to see only 7 miles on this car and listen to the rpms go over 5K😓Still loved the video though
OUCH said the car.
These motors are running from the factory. Also. All test drives people floor the cars anyways. I've yet to see an issue with the said 500 miles. I floored the shit out of my BRZ when it was brand new with 12 miles on it. Sold it last year at 136k miles and never had an issue. Just replaced the battery at 74k miles
Tidwell Hey you do you but I’m still not doing it lol
They do that at the factory now days you dont have to unless you want
Love your STI reviews Joe because you are a true STI enthusiast. My 2019 has the optional center armrest as well but do not mind not have alcantara. My grubby elbow would be causing a dirt spot on that versus rubberized material.
That is a very good point Robert! Thanks for your kind words!
I love the new look of the machined wheels!!! Better than the all black!
So all they did, sanded the wheels a bit and new fog light bezels... nice
The front of the car looks so good when its brand new and clean. I'm used to seeing smashed bug guts on mine 😄😄
I know that feeling Mark!
Washed them all off in the afternoon, only to put them right back on again at night!
Finally, I've been waiting all day lol!!!
I owned a 2017 STI and I LOVED it. Then, I totaled it ☹️ now I have a Stinger, but everyday I miss shifting gears and hearing that exhaust growl.
STI or Stinger? Looking to buy one of these personally.
Just an Evo driver popping in to say hey. Good luck with the headgasket. And enjoy this one boys. Final edition, like we had with the evo and the friendly historical rivalry Subaru and Mitsubishi had in the wrc, its sad to see them now both come to end. Rip.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
They should update the interior. The infotainment system looks like grabbed from ebay
I have a ‘19 WRX in the pearl white absolutely beautiful color
U know what Joe I'd like to take a brief minute here and say that my love for Subaru WRX'S and STI'S will never fade away from me and my love and passion for cars🙏🙏♥️♥️🤝🤝. Personally Joe I actually really fricking love White on WRX STI'S in my opinion, yes I know that the World Rally Blue is very common on basically every STI that I've seen, but this will absolutely do it for me. Those Wheels & Calipers r absolutely stunning in every way possible, goes amazingly with the White ♥️. The Short Throw Shifter is flawless absolutely flawless in every way under the sun ♥️♥️♥️. Would love to see a in depth review and update on your 2018 Subaru WRX STI Type RA 1 of these day's. Bless u Joe 🙏🙏♥️♥️🤝🤝. Thanks Joe. Keep up the great work and reviews.
I am so glad that you love this WRX STI! It really is a special car! I promise to get footage with my Type RA! I have been so busy filming! LOL
@@RaitisRides Bless u Joe for your outstanding performance and hard work everyday, it puts such a huge smile on my face ❤❤❤. SUBARU FOREVER!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤.
From Central Florida - Purchased a 2019 STI in April - Black, ST shifter, PB start, Recaros. Great car. Retired so have owned many cars but nothing that feels like the STI. Looking forward to next generation and may add one so we’ll see. Wife has always had a Forester - Currently she has a 2019.
That is so awesome Donnie!
My neighbor just bought one of these. The calipers set the whole car off. Makes me want to paint the ones on the mustang.
Yea you need those calipers so you won’t hit a crowd 😂
@@Allanstiii they're all getting smarter. They step back now 😜
It really pops!
LOL
LMAO
I hope you’re not pushing that over 4k. Believe during the first 1k miles you’re supposed to keep it under 4k RPM’s am sounded like you were much higher. I doubt it did anything but something to be aware of.
Tyler Burke he was wringing it out up to at least 6k from the sounds in the vid :(
"You know how you have that room in your house where the magic happens?" 🤣
Great content, Joe! ✊🏻 Looking forward to getting an STi myself.
Thanks for letting me share the laughs with you!
I just received my 2019 MY20 in CWP - I love it haha Done 100kms so far !! :) Will be even more happy after installing a R400 catback
Congrats Colin!
Still a great car! Personally I like my 2015 STI wheels better, but I can see how the new rims could possible grow on you after time. I don't know why they switch to a rubber material for the arm rest. Great classic turbo fun, yes. Very excited about the 2021 model coming out the end of next year. Great review Joe on the 2020 STI!!
Thanks for sharing your great points Dax! I appreciate the compliment!
Just bought a 2020 sti. The interior basically looks the same since 2016. The car is a little bit longer I measured it with a different sti. Shifting is a little hard but overall i love the car. This was my first manual car and i did learn with this vehicle😂. It has amazing grip and raiti is honestly pretty spot on for everything. Once u get a new exhaust, it really feels 10x better! Clutch is high and u have to give gas before u let go of the clutch for the low gears.
Congrats bro! Yes i had mine for 3 weeks and your right shifting feels hard - maybe need a heavier gear knob to make shifting better. Which exhaust did you end up getting? Im getting the Invidia R400
@@colintarm8320 ive ordered the awe touring for my 21 sti, cant wait. How is the r400 treating you
Yo. Love the vids. One thing for your watchers. The manufacturer guidelines specifically state to break in the motor for the first 1000 miles. This means under 4k 4PMS. When you get yours be sure to break in properly if you plan to mod later. At least to stage 2. Sounds dumb but I've owned or still own every iteration of this motor. I can say it makes a huge difference in day to day reliability.
If you plan to replace pistons anyway. Blow that sucker up! Lol
Thanks for that info and for watching!
Lol break it or not , WRX s are oil leakers, head gasket breakers and ring chewers, been there...
Love that Subaru as a company has the bandwidth to keep this niche market fulfilled! I'm in Vermont and WRX/STI are a dime a dozen, but it's important that they sell to keep things competitive.
I'm hoping they outfit the new STI with something truly assertive. Give it a new 3L engine with the same size turbo so it sets itself apart from the current 2L fa20dit.
330hp from factory, upgrade the turbo and your 3L STI hits 500whp all day. Wouldn't that be the dream for enthusiasts looking for a reason to buy an STI over a WRX other than the trans?
Thanks for sharing your great input Alexander!
Finally a new wrx sti design...
Was thinking of trading my Nissan 370Z for an sti since I have a son but is it worth even trading since they don’t push as much horse power as my Nissan does. Opinion ?
This Sti is more then a GT or GT1 AWD Stinger.My neighbor just got a Nismo 370 Z and I got a stinger within a week of each other.I have a 2020 AWD Stinger GT 3.3TT and it would eat the STI's lunch--and my neighbors Nismo--he will not even dig after a ride in my stinger.Stinger has torque down low--1300 RPM--so it can get off the line quick.10 year warranty--0 to 60 mid 4--167 MPH top speed--and a very advanced AWD system attached to a durable ZF 8 speed--I am also getting 23 to 25 MPG in mix and I drive 10 over the speed limit.
Awsome review as usual. I own a black 2020 STI . The brushed wheels look very nice on it.
I think Black would be the perfect car!
Like what they did with the wheels. Still don't like the yellow brake calipers though
I absolutely need those fog grills for my 2019 sti
I am sure you can get them from Subaru.
Can somebody tell me when the preview for the 2021 Subaru will be up?? Does anyone know what will likely change? I'm thinking about buying and STI but don't know if I should wait for 2021
Joe, this is one of the most perfect cars on earth IMO. It’s practical, has four doors, a real backseat, AWD for the Northeast horrible winters. It’s reliable, great looking, fun as hell...My one big Zonk is the gas mileage. It’s horrible. Your lucky if you get 20mpg with this thing. Other than that, I just still love the WRX & the STi. Fantastic review as usual. It seems like you do several reviews per day! I can’t keep up with you!
Golf R comes close.
Great points Philip! You are so right about fuel economy! Don't worry Philip you can always binge watch when you have some free time! ;-)
Smiles per gallon 😁, these are amazing cars, I been test driving Gt350 and Supercharged mustangs and those just don't do it for me like the STI does. I feel comfortable in the STI, it has swagger without being too flashy.
Reliable? Spun bearings and ringlands burning out on completely stock engines with less then 20k miles comes to mind.... high maintenance is the right definition
My 2020 WRX Premium in red comes in January. I'm so stoked! Dream car that is affordable for me!
Congrats! You will love her!
I had a 2017 wrx and now a 2019 Sti and I loved my wrx! Can’t go wrong with either!
@@Mav646 awesome! Yeah I'm so stoked to become part of the Subaru fam
These are everywhere out here in LA. Love them but seeing it every 15 minutes get a old. Probably only because I'm not driving it lol
The 2020 wrx has the bigger change, brembos for the performance package, can you please do a review of that when you get the chance?
Tim Irizarry they came out finally with that lets go!
I always pictured Raiti in an Sti
You can only fit 1.5 wheels in the trunk the rest are in the back seat. I know you said put the seat down but it’s not like you are really fitting them in the truck.
Fold those seats down and you have the larger truck space. ;-)
Yeah the Subaru WRX STi really is where it’s at. If Ford didn’t work so hard to go above and beyond making the Focus RS so great at its price point with the 350hp in their manual hatch, and Honda didn’t perfect the “Family Performance Track Car” aspect of the $35,000 Honda Type R with a 306hp FWD design that embarrasses “sports” cars more than double its price like the bmw M2 on tracks, the AWD Subaru WRX STi would be in a lot more garages 💪🔥.
The Zonks only start to come in when you look to Honda and Ford’s specs and see what you get for the Subaru’s price. How in the world did Honda’s FWD Civic platform create the superior handling car with faster acceleration at 35k than Subaru’s historical AWD rally heritage? Could you imagine if Honda put Acura’s SH-AWD inside a Type R?
How did Ford’s regular economy Focus platform based RS create a Hatchback that can handle more stock Horsepower and offer an AWD sensation that’s just as exciting?
Mitsubishi leaving with the 2008 financial banking recession crisis has left Subaru, Toyota, Nissan, and Mazda slacking I tell ya, now Hyundai is aiming its sights onto them with their Veloster N racing division
Very good input! Thanks for sharing those great thoughts!
Myself being a loyal Honda Civic si driver for 5 years. I think it’s time for a change im really looking into getting a 2020 Subaru wrx Sti super cool car
lets hope the next one has a forged fa engine and a little less weight
phil mcrevis no rumble, not buying
so I got a 2021 sti, and they do not have heated steering wheel. just figured would point it out. i have the limited
I'm more excited for 2021, I can't wait to see what sti has in store for then.
In the short time you drove it. Did you feel any difference between the 2020 and your Type RA? Great video Joe! Look forward to seeing what they do with the 2021. I do think people are going to miss the EJ in the coming years though.
You should not go over 4k on a new sti during the first 1000 miles. If you do theres a chance your rings wont seat correctly and the car will then become an oil consumer. Great review cant wait to see the Next model.
Did Subaru make an official announcement that this is the last one of the current gen? I did not hear anything, but i could have missed it. Please point me to your source. By the way, I heard the rumor the next gen STi will have electric motors, is it true?
They never said anything lol. I have a 2019, would love one with a new engine. They sell so many there’s no real reason to upgrade, the car kicks ass in its category. No 1! Once sales drop MAYBE they’ll upgrade the engine I think. Soon would be nice
@@stilife1942 Me too. I have the 19 STi Premium in CBS. I love every minute driving it.
Eff electric. I'd rather have the ej model in the newer sti with better upgrades
Ordered a 2020 STI limited in pearl white with short throw shifter on September 7th. Tomorrow will be 4 weeks. The wait is tough;) thanks for the awesome review!
Nicely done! It will be worth the wait!
@@RaitisRides Thank you. One question I have for you good sir. Does it seem the stock mapping has changed? Being it's more linear? I thought I heard they may have put a more of a 209 map in it . Thanks
@@JeremyERevo if it had the 209 map. It would have the same HP. Lol
@@rsxking2004 actually, not. The 209 has a different turbo and other odds and ends for HP.
@@JeremyERevo i know that. A tune doesn't add another 40hp bro. Also if you know that. Then why are you asking if it had more of a "s209 tune". Seems like you're asking a question that you know the answer to. 😂
Great video as always Joe. I can't wait to see the new WRX/STI design. Take care man. Keep up the good work Sir.
The people putting thumbs down on this video. Don't have magic happening in their room. 😂 11:50
Thanks for the video ... So would you rather choose blue color? Or pearl white?
I wonder how many cars you would sell if there was a “buy now” option on your videos. I think it might be a quite a few. Seems like a business model someone should exploit. Maybe a collaboration with Carvana or some else with that ship anywhere/money back guarantee car business?
That is a .really great idea! I like the way you think!
Jorge Zero. TH-cam is used by broke people to replace TV, anyone with enough money to click a “buy now” button are not on TH-cam. Don’t get shit twisted, TH-cam is for those that can’t afford TV and certainly not a car.
Bill Jones hahahahahaha
I’m so tempted to wait for next years revision but damn I love that classic engine/sound
I kinda like hitting boost a little later in the rpms
I really do too, but we are in the generation of I don't want to work for it and want instant gratification
Flat blame the generation? 😂 would you won’t your brakes to come in seconds after your press the pedal too? Geez
AGREED
This is so very true!
LMAO!
I’m so disappointed that they discontinued the STI I wanted to get one brand new but now im gonna have to get one used not knowing how much of a beat down it was given! 🤦🏻♂️😞
I totally agree with you Jay!
@@RaitisRides I just gotta pray I find a good one still. I’m very good with my cars and I’d keep and STi for life!
They don't build them like that anymore... the stick, the power delivery, the hydraulic steering. The STi is one of the very few cars under $100k that really makes driving fun, on top being an all weather car. The practicality and rally heritage is just icing on the cake.
You hit the nail on the head George!
Serious question should I get the 2020 wrx or should I stick with my civic hatchback 2018 cvt and tune it?
Does the CVT in the Civic have the same concerns as the CVT in the WRX when modifications are introduced? (that is, very limited aftermarket parts, high replacement cost, and some concerns of damage due to high torque + heat.) If so, a MT WRX is probably the way to go. Alternatively, if you prefer auto, the DSG of the VW GTI and Golf R are worth a look IMHO.
I would go WRX all day long!
Great input! I always like reading your comments!
I love this car it's amazing😘dream car...but blue Subaru 👍
WR BLUE is the color to have!
@@RaitisRides I don't own a car😶
I have the blue sti 202o visit my channel
I feel very old , I remembered back in 2006 when I bought my 2006 sti ,white with gold rims , blue seats and gold brembo calipers , ej25 would always be in my heart , STI ❤️ the end of a generation.
I am right there with you Alan! Do you still have it?
Drives a gtr, 911, and R8 no dealer passenger...drives sti has passenger lol
I know right!
100! Most Subaru dealerships wont even let you take an accompanied test drive in an STi... meanwhile over at Porsche they'll give you the keys to a Carrera S and say see you in an hour.
Jeff Digital when I had a RS (20 years old) he just let me take a 19 Sti right off the lot by myself was kinda shocked for a 40kish car
They won’t even do a accompanying test drive in a TypeR
@@MrSkarbek36 maybe they are more lenient now. back in 05-08 the dealers near me didnt want any mileage on the STis
Very informative, not boring -well done!
bring the hatch back!
My primary "zonk" against the STI is this very thing !
Not really good for rally or track racing but for daily use it’s cool.
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807 tell that the Honda Civic Type-R, the Focus RS or the other such hot hatches around ! The day of sedans are long gone, and I certainly will not miss them.
@@OBrandt-i5c gladly. The Weight distribution is way off. It’s science. Also I wouldn’t consider the 2014 Wrx hatch A hot hatch. A true hot hatch is the Hyundai velocity N. Or of the upcoming Corolla performance car. However I would never buy that car. A true Rally car is a sedan. For the type R and older Subaru hatches. Or any hatch it’s all just extra weight.
@@reflexboxer2ndlt807 so the Focus RS, is also not a good enough rally car for you......it being a hatch ? ;) Also, the Hyundai Veloster N is also a hatch, right ? So seems like everything we are talking about, are hatches, and not sedans !
Great review Joe and the STI is truly an amazing car I think there have been no major changes as they have a wining formula which still makes great sales. I really like the small changes year to year and although the spoiler is iconic I think I’d build it without. Keep the videos coming
Great review. Great car. Videos like this got me hooked on Raitis rides back when he could respond to every comment.
Thanks my friend for being here! I will have more Subaru content. I promise I am trying my best brother!
those fog covers still dont do anything, those holes are just for symmetry since the right hand one has one of the horns behind it, they put hole on it.
They actually vend into the engine compartment!
I have a 2019 STI and hopefully I will trade it in for the 2021 if comes with more horsepower.
I'll pay trade in price.
FA24 2021. Hopefully pushing at least 350bhp from factory.
It will be intersting to see how it turns out!
I pulled the trigger on new 2020 last week. Thanks Joe!
Congrats man! You are so very welcome.
@@RaitisRides Yeah, it is a fuel pump, injectors, and E85 pro tune away from being a lot more peppier. That is easy stuff in the end. One of the last manual gas sedans!! Crazy.
To bad everyone An their grandmas drive one where I live/:
😂 well thats discouraging me from getting one , really 😂😂😂
grandmas just wanna have fun
Nothing wrong with that!
It’s a bad thing when they are all vaping yuppie college kids wearing flat brim hats backwards. I’d prefer not to be associated with that crowd.
@@smokyrs9838 don't lie. You can't afford it
I have a 2017 sti in red.i see theres no major changes engine or power wise.
Hey Joe, I heard there’s going to be a Final Edition STI with Gold forged BBS wheels and a few other goodies with a limited run of 555 units! Do you know if that’s for Japan or USA? And I think only available in Blue or Black
It's Japan only. In Japan the STI has the EJ20 engine not the EJ25. It's limited to 555 cars and because demand is so high there will be a lottery. So I don't think it's going to the USA. I'm in Australia and like Japan are cars here are right hand drive and there's no word of it coming here. But like you I'm interested to see what limited options Subaru will be offering over the next year or so. Hopefully some gold wheels!
doryanthes67 thanks
I think that's a limited edition 555 units with the legendary EJ20 engine. Subaru decided to rest the EJ20 for good... therefore, that's the 555 units to commemorate the successful wrc rally team 555. It's only for Japan.
It's just being advertised in Japan now, the WRX STI EJ20 Final Edition. With applications taken for it from October 23. No specs yet, just some glossy pictures of a prototype. It does have those lovely BBS gold rims and STI Branded Recaro seats. I would not be surprised that if it is oversubscribed, we'll be seeing an STI Final Final Version a few months later; then the Ultimate Really Final EJ20 version, as Subaru milk the demand for this car.
What’s to say it’s a Scoob Doo! Love it buddy.Last of the legends 🥺
Hey Joe, always love seeing you talk Subaru! Do you know what STI’s involvement was in Subaru’s WRC program vs. what Prodrive did?
Prodrive worked with STI with the development and execution of the WRC cars.
Perfect car except for the rims, they arnt bad but would be the first thing I change.
I'll get one (one day)
You can do it!
you can I got mine!!
much anticipated 2020 review :)
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
He looks like Toby from the office
Would love a navy blue sti like this but I would wait for 2021
That would be HOT!