Jack Lambert - He definitely waves at the family! 😁 It’s great to see how many people are out there with an STI or WRX that show the love. It’s a fun car to drive and has convinced me to one day in the future get a BRZ. Gotta pay off the Outback first 😆
i love the giant wing on the STi. The same for the Evo. Could never understand people complaining how "boy racer" they look. The wings are what makes these cars extra cool
Got an old Bugeye STi myself. I agree with many people and that is if you don't need the transmission, the suspension, the brake, and other upgrades. If you just need a daily driver with the occasional fun, the WRX will be better suited for you. Although I will advice to avoid the CVT if you decide to go with the WRX.
I had a 2018 sti and sold it and picked up a mint 2006 Hawkeye sti and built the block the suspension and upgraded everything under the hood. 420whp and 450tq......i loved my 18 sti but man the Hawkeye with that kinda power is just an absolute blast!
The first Nissan GTR Nismo I seen in person was being driven by a couple that had to be in their 80's. Drive what you enjoy and screw what anyone else thinks.
The great thing is I can fit my three children in the back and the wife up front comfortably. Even the middle back seat works. Other cars like the A4 & A6 can’t sit three across like the WRX. That was the selling point. I can have my fun and fit the entire family and drive it all year here in New England. There is less difference when you have the limited with the leather, Harmon system, STI shifter, and adaptive steering lights. I bought the WRX & it is a blast to drive within traffic for the better power delivery early compared to the STI. In addition the WRX has better MPG has and has a longer range. All that being said, I do sometimes think, I should have gotten the STI. But around town I have no regrets. When I get on it, yes the STI is better. But overall for normal use, dipping in the the turbo the WRX limited is great. Love the reviews ... keep up the good work
that early power delivery is slowly eating at your piston rings. having boost come on as early at 2.5k is not healthy for the engine, you'll find out once the car hits 100k miles.
Honestly, I'd rather just go for the WRX. You get to have just as much fun as you'd get in the STI, but for cheaper. It's still an awesome car either way, though!
Thats what I'm talking about Sir. Joe you always do the best attention to detail breakdown of all your videos. Thanks for all of your hard work and your staff as well.
My son has recently bought a rally blue 2020 STI. It had only 2,000 miles on it . He let me drive it today . And I have to say , it was amazing ! Tons of power ! Great feel on the road !
Great review. I'm an older guy with an Sti and I don't want to grow up either, so I have the wing. Being older is probably why I love the Sti and it's old school feel and heritage. The turbo lag and the rubble, even at idle just makes it an engaging drive. The interior is a little cheap, when compared to say a Golf R, but it is so much more character. The extra 10k for the Sti, takes it from good car (wrx), to character filled fun machine (Sti), well worth the extra in my opinion. I just Subaru would put the all running gear/interior from Sti into the Levorg. I would buy one instantly.
My retired pops bought a WRX, he would have liked an STI but it's too rough a ride to comfortably cruise around day to day as an older fella. Both are amazing cars, can't go wrong from base through STI 😁
As an owner of a 2015 WRX and a 2019 STi I can tell you that both cars make the same on e85 with stock block. (Around 400WHP) the FA20 is a really impressive motor and puts the EJ25 to shame in my opinion. I started off with a stage 1+ from brentuning in my WRX and my gf and I raced them. The WRX was beating (not by much mind you) the base STi. When both cars got stage 2 they were neck and neck STi had a tiny pull over the WRX (both catless DP and invidia N1s with e boost controllers and CAIs. When I added the flex fuel kits to both of my cars and had them pro tuned (still only stage 2) the WRX was pulling on the STi a lot harder. This is because the WRX has a lot more power down low and the different turbo which i have turned up to the max (23 psi) and the STi at about 19 pounds. The only difference between the cars is that I added a AOS to it and replaced the stock oil pan. Both very important reliability mods for the STi but no so much for WRX. The WRX suspension for 2015 was just as stiff (if not more) then the previous gen STi and Subaru made it softer in the WRX for years 2016+. If you want a great car for 14-15k get the WRX over the STi. You really aren’t missing much. With the 8-10k you save you can get a bigger turbo for your WRX, catless DP, any cat back really (N1 is a great option) get the boost control solenoid, access port then get pro tuned for less then 5k and you’ll be sitting at about the 340-350 wheel mark.
I love the fog light on cars. Fog lights really help when you need them. Interesting fact about the cherry blossom trees around the factory. The dark rims are a good choice with the blue. Thanks for another informative review.
Hey Raiti, I think I have watched all your WRX and STI videos so far. Guess what? I bought an Sti. I like the WRX but I new I would be disappointed eventually if I had bought the WRX. So, I just went ahead and got the STI. Its an amazing car. I just can't get enough of it. It's a 2018. with mild accessories: visors, wheel spacers, rally mud splash set, short throw shifter as well as mild window tint and 14000 miles on the clock. I would encourage those who don't mind, to get a used, very low mileage Sti instead of a WRX. Thanks for all your reviews. They have helped me to make my decision. keep up the good work.
Chris J you have to pay to play. I have a 19 STI and don’t give two shits about gas mileage. That’s what our 19 forester is for. It’s like someone saying they hate trucks because of the gas mileage. You don’t buy trucks for good gas mileage. Sounds like you just can’t afford it lol.
I just took delivery of my 2020 in crystal white pearl STI. And even before watching the video. I can say yes. Yes the STI is worth the extra 10k. It’s a night and day difference from the WRX.
Owned 4 wrx's 08,13,18,19. I have just over 100 miles on my brand new white 2020 STI lol I couldn't even begin to explain the differences. Its a totally different car. It's a dream come true.
I'm a DIE-HARD Subaru fan. It's the ONLY car I will drive (I live in Ontario, Canada so.....those who live in my area understand!), and as much as I LOVE the STi, I will *NEVER* drive another manual vehicle. I'm 46 1/2 years old & one cranky, lazy S.O.B. I absolutely REFUSE to drive a stick! The last stick I drove, was back in '98. With the technology we have in todays day & age, one would think we can get a powerful AWD sports car in AUTOMATIC. Come on Subaru!!!!!!! If Dodge can do it, why can't you?!
I went from a 2017 WRX to a 2019 STI. IMO I find it was worth the extra money. While the STI isn't much faster I find the overall performance to be a noticeable step up, particularly the handling. In addition, the seats are much better on long drives. The only downsides are a clunky shifter when compared to the WRX and the gas milage is could be better. Aside from that the STI is a fantastic all around car.
Had a white 2016 STi a couple of years back then sold it to save money for a wedding and house. A couple of years later i ditched the fiance and now bought a red 2020 STI. Don't do what i did guys...
Even though the STi runs a little rough on the streets for the old folks, the beauty of it is that it's a tuner car! Buying a nice coilover set, for example, Ohlins, can greatly reduce the jarring ride quality and make the car handle even better!!
@@NashKetchum well the main issue with an STI is that most people will drive it like maniacs and I don't blame them lol. If you take care of it it can go around 100k without too many issues. A WRX is a significantly weaker car.
Love my 2020 STI. My second STI after a 2012 wrx and a 2017 STI. And stiffer suspension is NOT a sacrifice. It gives it beautiful handling and adds to the fun experience. My wife loves it more as I mostly ride my ZX6-R.
STI ALLLLLLLL DAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤. Love the sound of that Boxter Engine just beautiful the way the Turbo spools up & screams to life. Thanks Joe ❤❤.
I have a 16 wrx and don't regret getting the sti one bit! I get way better gas mileage! And with a few cheap mods and a tune I'm faster than a stock sti for way less money and it's more comfortable to drive as a daily. Only thing wish I had on the sti is the old boxer rumble from the unequal length headers but I'd take the more reliable fa20 motor any day!
As I've said in your other STI reviews, and Ill say it again. I've owned a '11 WRX, An '18 WRX , and traded the '18 in for a '19 STI. Was it worth it ???? OH YEAAAAAAAA !!!!!! :)
Yeah, you can get the WRX with the CVT. You can have some fun. But the entire WRX community will hate you. I mean genuine _hatred._ You can tell folks you own a WRX. Just let them assume it's got a manual.
Last time I criticised some of the things you were saying on each one of your videos. This time u have done much better. Btw ur video titles are very catchy. Guud job. Sydney Australia.
Owned a 2018 WRX Premium and traded it in for the 2020 STI base. The STI motor alone is worth the difference. They cut so many corners with the WRX vs the STI you're going to spend the difference if you inspire to own a STI. My 2018 WRX has horrible audio, boost issues (see why people are putting a cobb tuner on it, it was "chugging" at WOT) and the unequal length manifold didn't feel like a subaru. Spend the extra money and get an STI, it's worth it.
I owned a '17 WRX before it got totaled, and it was EASILY my favorite car to drive. Most people don't like the turbocharged engines because of its non-linear acceleration, and the WRX is no exception, but I actually loved getting all that power with minimal depression to the pedal. The amount of passing power you get with such ease, and torque in the low RPMS, makes it worth it. Plus its fairly light for an AWD vehicle, so it has that going for it. Anybody thinking of getting a WRX, you won't regret it. It's always touted for having the best in class acceleration, and I can attest to that. If there's ANYTHING I could harp on it for, is that shifting is pretty sloppy in first and second gear.
It is worth every freakin penny. Had a 16 WRX for two years. Traded for a new 19 STi...put 10k on it already. Completely different car and experience. Those that back the WRX are trying to justify their purchase and prevent buyers remorse, arent really car people and just want a sporty car, or cant afford the STi. If you are a car guy/gal and can afford it. GET IT.
I wish they would've included the Brembo brakes on the 2018 model because I always thought it was weak that they called it a 'performance' package but all you really got that year was little bit of weight savings with the moonroof delete and 1/2 Recaros. And the 'upgraded' brake pads.
I've had an MY00 WRX, MY02 Forester Turbo, MY06 WRX, MY08 STi R spec the STi was insanely better and more fun than the WRX. One of my staff had the MY08 WRX and said he thought it was quick until he was in the car with me and I floored the STi onto a freeway. The STi has just enough power that you can drive the living christ out of it and it isn't dangerous, it also has strong enough gearbox and suspension that nothing ever breaks. After 12 years of turbo subaru's that I drove like they were stolen and I had a heater fan die, had to recondition a power steering pump and broke a supsension linkage on a massive pothole. If you service them properly and put high octane fuel in them (and don't modify them on the cheap) they are super fun, super reliable and have great resale value. I bought my STi R Spec second hand for $35k and sold it for $29k after 5 years. So the logical choice a couple of years ago was to get an Audi RS3 now thats a whole other level of mentaly quick.
You Are The Best Car Review Guy On TH-cam no doubt im Forshure gonna save up that extra 10 thousand the 2020 STI is absolutely Phenomenal it drives smoother and the inside also looks better 🔥🔥🔥
wrx is actually quicker 0-60 because of low end power band. That sold me being that i dont track it and only rip around on back roads. Just couldn't see spending $10k extra for suspension, trans, older less reliable engine (Ringland). If you have the money to blow sure go with the STI, but the WRX is more bang for your buck.
Lol you’ll never hear an STI owner go “you know what, I should have got the WRX.” Meanwhile every WRX owner at some point feels buyers remorse and wishes they got the STI.
I will personally take the wrx all day. Tune, exhaust , CAI , upgrade the clutch, shifter you have a very capable car for considerably less then the sti. It is all personal preference though.
Love my '18 STi. Figures they wait till the last year of this style to actually add the front vents. Would love to see underneath to see how/what they did. Wish they would have just done it from the start, but oh well, no complaints! Love the video!
Great video! Heck, all of your videos are fantastic! I’ve had a 2011 WRX and now a 2017 WRX (both manual) and love them both! Just checked our video on the 2021 Audi S4 and you’ve convinced me to make the move. Keep up the amazing work! Thanks for sharing your love of all things cars. Take care and stay safe!
Your channel has been incredible for someone in the market for a 15-21 WRX/STI. Love your enthusiasm about these cars, and also am jealous of your Type RA! Can't wait until you get your hands on the next gen coming out this month!
I own a 2002 WRX wagon. I drool over the new STi every year, but mine just keeps running. I don't put on a lot of miles per year, so it could easily go 5-10 years more. Now if they offer a hatchback STi, I could definitely be persuaded. The Type R is only gonna be faster in perfect conditions. I live in Canada, and could crush a new Type R with my old WRX driving up to the ski resort, 4 wheel drifting in 6 inches of fresh snow, or in the summer on gravel...
Depends on what you want. I went WRX because I wanted a sporty family car that was fun to drive, get good gas mileage (average 29.4 on the highway). If I were single I'd go STI all day....
Thanks for the great review, man. I love your enthusiasm and the overview of each model without droning on. The only feedback I'd give is that you film the STI in the forward view like you did with the WRX. It would also be great if you dedicated more time to exhaust sounds - maybe even a cold start sound for each and prolonged idling sounds after warmed up.
About to purchase my first brand new car around September it's gonna be the 2021 WRX STI. The catch is since all units in my country are sold out mine would come 4 to 6 months later I pay but I have complete control of the color, interior, and accessories. I can't wait.
You can definitely put the wrx fogs on the STi. I bet you can option the c.f. on the STi dash like older models. If it fits a wrx it fits an STi (mostly)
The best way to tell the difference between a wrx and an sti? The brakes. Wrx people can add wings, change wheels, very rarely do they change to big brakes.
Best reviewer ever. I used to dislike your video and personality, you definitely grew on me😂😂 if im looking for a car and it hasn’t been reviewed by raiti im not even considering it
Thanks for the comparison video Joe! I went with the wing delete on my 2019 STI but everyone has their priorities. I just like the cleaner look and lines of the car without the wing. I have always liked flying under the radar without drawing unnecessary attention from the men and women in blue.
Heading to a local dealer tomorrow morning to look @ a 2020 STI limited in lapis blue with the wing delete (yeah, I know!) and this was a helpful comparison, Joe. Thanks!
I like how you talk about a manual transmission and knowing how to do your thing.... Here in South Africa, most cars are manual; mine too.... I'm going auto for my next car, because driving a manual car in our traffic is crazy annoying and tiring for your left foot.
At the end of the day it comes down to ones budget. Personally having driven both back in 018, I could never buy the WRX .. after driving the STi... to do so for me would be settling for less. I just hope the 021 cars don’t look like theToyota Corolla 🤣🤣🤣
If you've not purchased one yet probably best to wait a year until the new gen is revealed. Either it'll be what everyone's wanting ... or not. And yeah hopefully it won't look like a 2008 Corolla. Them tail lights. Ugh.
I'm at the point in my life when I could have bought either. Decided on the WRX for a few reasons. One, this is a daily driver and the ride in the STi is just to bone rattling. Two, the engine the STi is very old engine, Yesterdays tech. The old STi engine has no direct injection, no dual scroll turbo, ect... The WRX's FA20F engine is simply better and has better throttle response at lower RPM range, much better around town rather then waiting for boost to build. It also has much better fuel economy. Finally it more responsive to tunes then the older STi engine. If I was still tracking cars the STi may make more scene but as a daily driver you can beat the WRX.
😂 I am forever grateful. I am waiting for after the holidays, than I am going to try to get myself in a WRX premium, something about the ice silver speaks to me.
The WRX is a legend and the engine and AWD system are World Class. That 6 speed trans however, not so much…If Subaru would put a better manual trans in the STI this car would be class leading…
Absolutely LOVE my 19 STi Joe, Love everything about it including the boy racer wing! Looking forward to what Subaru come out with in 2021 but it won't be the same with out the EJ headers and boxer sound.... Keep the content up mate, always happy when I see a new video to watch :)
Hey Joe, the WRX you reviewed has single zone automatic climate control. Better than regular AC but not as good as dual zone climate control in some cars. Great review by the way!
oh woah... 9:32 !! there's an original Japanese Tokyo Roki oil filter(black filter). thats a gem. That truly means that car was built in Japan. Until your first oil change in America, then subaru dealerships will install horrible quality "blue" oil filters - which is worse quality in every way :(
Seeing 2020 STi around here for $35k now brand new. They're starting to dump them before refresh. I might have to jump on it lol that's cheaper than the WRX Premium was
If you live in Germany with no speed limits then YES it's worth it more 10,000$. But am from Canada so I picked WRX over STI. *Reasons for picking WRX:* 1) Fastest speed limit is 120 km/hr so WRX more than enough. I like my driving record CLEAN, 2) Automatic option, 3) Same exterior styling/ interior design, 4) With full fuel tank 100-150 Kms more range than STI, 5) 50$ cheaper to insure on monthly basis, 6) Almost same 0-100 km/hr times, 7) Newer engine 8) More comfortable and better family sedan.
The 93 octane requirement for the STI is also a hard pill to swallow when you live in Canada (with our insane gas price). The WRX run on 91 or even 87 (although it will probably run like sh*t)
Love this episode. The comparisons btw the two cars was very informative and both cars are a good buy which ever one you can afford. Keep up the good work. 👍🏾👍🏾
I bought a 2019 cvt Wrx without knowing i was committing a sin then bought a 05 Wrx to learn standard it blew up sold the cvt for a 2020 sti never looked back
Considering the wrx because of the price point, also unfortunately I never was able to learn manual on anyone’s car so I’m forced to stick with the sport tech. I don’t think there’s an awd sports sedan on the market that is at this price point. Anything above $40k cad jumps up $10k +. Thanks for the reviews they help with the shopping process!
That’s a bad reason to not buy a manual. You expect someone else to let you potentially destroy their synchros, gears and wear out all their clutch components? Driving manual is easy and can be learned in a single afternoon. Don’t be scared of it just buy one and you’ll learn driving it home from the dealership like a real man.
My husband just got last Saturday a 2020 STI Limited that has a sunroof in that wonderful World Rally Blue. He is truly enjoying it 😎
Luciegrl83 congrats you both if you!😎👍🏻
Tell him to do what's called T51R mod to the turbo housing. Go to ocdworks, they make them and their on Instagram.
Jack Lambert - He definitely waves at the family! 😁 It’s great to see how many people are out there with an STI or WRX that show the love. It’s a fun car to drive and has convinced me to one day in the future get a BRZ. Gotta pay off the Outback first 😆
You don't even have a husband.
Excuse me?? Yes I do. How presumptuous of you to assume something of a stranger.
I got my 2020 STI and I absolutely love it. I am forever grateful, its a pure joy feeling every time I look at her.
Good for you! 😊
It's female?😂
@@robmiester don't be rude
Congrats! What color did you get!
AGREED!
i love the giant wing on the STi. The same for the Evo. Could never understand people complaining how "boy racer" they look. The wings are what makes these cars extra cool
Thanks for letting me share it with you!
Got an old Bugeye STi myself. I agree with many people and that is if you don't need the transmission, the suspension, the brake, and other upgrades. If you just need a daily driver with the occasional fun, the WRX will be better suited for you. Although I will advice to avoid the CVT if you decide to go with the WRX.
"Growing up is overrated" - yes Raiti I totally agree! Fabulous video as always!
Planet Fabulous thanks my friend! I knew some people would agree with me!
Planet Fabulous not when you are making you’re own money
Raiti's ride first awesome quote😂 "the heck with that, growing up is overrated ~ raiti's ride "
Thanks for letting me share the laughs with you!
I had a 2018 sti and sold it and picked up a mint 2006 Hawkeye sti and built the block the suspension and upgraded everything under the hood. 420whp and 450tq......i loved my 18 sti but man the Hawkeye with that kinda power is just an absolute blast!
The first Nissan GTR Nismo I seen in person was being driven by a couple that had to be in their 80's. Drive what you enjoy and screw what anyone else thinks.
AMEN!
Just not a Subaru, because you’ll be repairing it more than driving it
The great thing is I can fit my three children in the back and the wife up front comfortably. Even the middle back seat works. Other cars like the A4 & A6 can’t sit three across like the WRX. That was the selling point. I can have my fun and fit the entire family and drive it all year here in New England. There is less difference when you have the limited with the leather, Harmon system, STI shifter, and adaptive steering lights. I bought the WRX & it is a blast to drive within traffic for the better power delivery early compared to the STI. In addition the WRX has better MPG has and has a longer range. All that being said, I do sometimes think, I should have gotten the STI. But around town I have no regrets. When I get on it, yes the STI is better. But overall for normal use, dipping in the the turbo the WRX limited is great. Love the reviews ... keep up the good work
My car feels like shit when fully loaded. Cant turn cant break
that early power delivery is slowly eating at your piston rings. having boost come on as early at 2.5k is not healthy for the engine, you'll find out once the car hits 100k miles.
That guy checking out the car at 23:00, that's me every time I see an STI drive by.
Just bought a 2021 STI last night - wanted this car for 10+ years! Thanks for your reviews on them, I've watched them all.
Congrats man! I am so glad that I could share my car passion with you.
How do you like?
@@donquixote2072 I love it, just finished break-in recently and added a muffler delete. It's a joy to drive every time.
@@EpeenKing That's good to hear, I've wanted one for years now too. Had a guy tell me the STI was no good, and to go for an EVO instead.
I just bought a 2021 as well. Possibly the last STI ever.
I picked up an STI partly because of your channel. Thanks! I was between the STI and WRX... drove both and it made sense. Thanks!
Honestly, I'd rather just go for the WRX. You get to have just as much fun as you'd get in the STI, but for cheaper. It's still an awesome car either way, though!
Thats what I'm talking about Sir. Joe you always do the best attention to detail breakdown of all your videos. Thanks for all of your hard work and your staff as well.
That means so much Paul! Thank you for saying that!
Thanks to your videos I purchased a 2020 STI Limited about a month ago. I can’t wait until the break in period is over so I can truly enjoy it.
How is it?
My son has recently bought a rally blue 2020 STI. It had only 2,000 miles on it . He let me drive it today . And I have to say , it was amazing ! Tons of power ! Great feel on the road !
Great review. I'm an older guy with an Sti and I don't want to grow up either, so I have the wing. Being older is probably why I love the Sti and it's old school feel and heritage. The turbo lag and the rubble, even at idle just makes it an engaging drive. The interior is a little cheap, when compared to say a Golf R, but it is so much more character. The extra 10k for the Sti, takes it from good car (wrx), to character filled fun machine (Sti), well worth the extra in my opinion. I just Subaru would put the all running gear/interior from Sti into the Levorg. I would buy one instantly.
I totally agree with your great points! Thanks for the compliment!
I have a 2020 sti pure red...
Yes it's defenetly worth it wouldn't traded ,,I'm thinking I'm keeping this one.for good
Nice call!
My retired pops bought a WRX, he would have liked an STI but it's too rough a ride to comfortably cruise around day to day as an older fella. Both are amazing cars, can't go wrong from base through STI 😁
As an owner of a 2015 WRX and a 2019 STi I can tell you that both cars make the same on e85 with stock block. (Around 400WHP) the FA20 is a really impressive motor and puts the EJ25 to shame in my opinion. I started off with a stage 1+ from brentuning in my WRX and my gf and I raced them. The WRX was beating (not by much mind you) the base STi. When both cars got stage 2 they were neck and neck STi had a tiny pull over the WRX (both catless DP and invidia N1s with e boost controllers and CAIs.
When I added the flex fuel kits to both of my cars and had them pro tuned (still only stage 2) the WRX was pulling on the STi a lot harder. This is because the WRX has a lot more power down low and the different turbo which i have turned up to the max (23 psi) and the STi at about 19 pounds. The only difference between the cars is that I added a AOS to it and replaced the stock oil pan. Both very important reliability mods for the STi but no so much for WRX. The WRX suspension for 2015 was just as stiff (if not more) then the previous gen STi and Subaru made it softer in the WRX for years 2016+. If you want a great car for 14-15k get the WRX over the STi. You really aren’t missing much. With the 8-10k you save you can get a bigger turbo for your WRX, catless DP, any cat back really (N1 is a great option) get the boost control solenoid, access port then get pro tuned for less then 5k and you’ll be sitting at about the 340-350 wheel mark.
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I love the fog light on cars. Fog lights really help when you need them. Interesting fact about the cherry blossom trees around the factory. The dark rims are a good choice with the blue. Thanks for another informative review.
Hey Raiti, I think I have watched all your WRX and STI videos so far. Guess what? I bought an Sti. I like the WRX but I new I would be disappointed eventually if I had bought the WRX. So, I just went ahead and got the STI. Its an amazing car. I just can't get enough of it. It's a 2018. with mild accessories: visors, wheel spacers, rally mud splash set, short throw shifter as well as mild window tint and 14000 miles on the clock. I would encourage those who don't mind, to get a used, very low mileage Sti instead of a WRX. Thanks for all your reviews. They have helped me to make my decision. keep up the good work.
Just purchased a 2020 WRX STI a week ago, car is absolutely amazing. I daily drive it and it is incredible.
Chris J you’re hella out of topic my boy lol
Chris J you have to pay to play. I have a 19 STI and don’t give two shits about gas mileage. That’s what our 19 forester is for. It’s like someone saying they hate trucks because of the gas mileage. You don’t buy trucks for good gas mileage. Sounds like you just can’t afford it lol.
She’s still cheaper than my girlfriend.
Congrats! What color did you go with?
I just took delivery of my 2020 in crystal white pearl STI. And even before watching the video. I can say yes. Yes the STI is worth the extra 10k. It’s a night and day difference from the WRX.
I seconded that!
Congrats!
AGREED!
Thank you. I just install the Remark exhaust system and she sounds mean. Subaru really did a great job
My wife just got an STI.
Should i get checked up?
Not if it has 4-wheels.
She's a keeper!👍😎
Does she have a sister?
Lol.. This is what I want, and manual. Automatics blow, can't have an automatic after my 2012 Jetta manual.
Depends if it needs a timing belt, if not I'd check the blow off valve and live off that for awhile.
Owned 4 wrx's 08,13,18,19. I have just over 100 miles on my brand new white 2020 STI lol I couldn't even begin to explain the differences. Its a totally different car. It's a dream come true.
I'm picking up my 2020 STi at Reeves on Saturday! I can't flipping wait.
Armando Lopez congrats! You are going to love it!
I'm a DIE-HARD Subaru fan. It's the ONLY car I will drive (I live in Ontario, Canada so.....those who live in my area understand!), and as much as I LOVE the STi, I will *NEVER* drive another manual vehicle. I'm 46 1/2 years old & one cranky, lazy S.O.B. I absolutely REFUSE to drive a stick! The last stick I drove, was back in '98.
With the technology we have in todays day & age, one would think we can get a powerful AWD sports car in AUTOMATIC. Come on Subaru!!!!!!! If Dodge can do it, why can't you?!
I'm just happy I went in for the 2019 WRX. Some people said wait for the 2020 refresh but there wasn't one.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
I went from a 2017 WRX to a 2019 STI. IMO I find it was worth the extra money. While the STI isn't much faster I find the overall performance to be a noticeable step up, particularly the handling. In addition, the seats are much better on long drives. The only downsides are a clunky shifter when compared to the WRX and the gas milage is could be better. Aside from that the STI is a fantastic all around car.
hows the ride quality? is it really harsh on rough/bumpy roads ?
Had a white 2016 STi a couple of years back then sold it to save money for a wedding and house. A couple of years later i ditched the fiance and now bought a red 2020 STI. Don't do what i did guys...
Even though the STi runs a little rough on the streets for the old folks, the beauty of it is that it's a tuner car! Buying a nice coilover set, for example, Ohlins, can greatly reduce the jarring ride quality and make the car handle even better!!
So very true!
"Growing up is overrated"
Joe, I love you man!!!
It's always going to be a preference thing. There will always be two sides
Of course, but is there a right side! LOL
I seriously can’t wait till I get one 🤤🤤 its been my dream forever!! I love your channel joe! Keep up the great work !!
You will love it Joshua! Thanks for the compliment!
Short answer: yes. Reason: way better brakes and a central differential. Car will last forever.
The STI is a great car, but you find me one that hasn’t had major mechanical breakdown by 100k miles and I’ll call bullshit
@@NashKetchum well the main issue with an STI is that most people will drive it like maniacs and I don't blame them lol. If you take care of it it can go around 100k without too many issues. A WRX is a significantly weaker car.
Love my 2020 STI. My second STI after a 2012 wrx and a 2017 STI. And stiffer suspension is NOT a sacrifice. It gives it beautiful handling and adds to the fun experience. My wife loves it more as I mostly ride my ZX6-R.
STI ALLLLLLLL DAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤. Love the sound of that Boxter Engine just beautiful the way the Turbo spools up & screams to life. Thanks Joe ❤❤.
Jay Patel “Boxer”
@@07acanoia Thanks bro now I know 🤣
Jay Patel no worries brother. Just helping out. The Boxster refers to Porsche Boxster.
@@07acanoia Oh right 🤣 Thanks a lot
I totally agree with you Jay!
Every time you post a 2020 STI video it literally makes me wanna go back to the STI and get one lol.
Hugh Vupy I know that feeling!
Hugh Vupy good to know
I have a 16 wrx and don't regret getting the sti one bit! I get way better gas mileage! And with a few cheap mods and a tune I'm faster than a stock sti for way less money and it's more comfortable to drive as a daily. Only thing wish I had on the sti is the old boxer rumble from the unequal length headers but I'd take the more reliable fa20 motor any day!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one!
As I've said in your other STI reviews, and Ill say it again. I've owned a '11 WRX, An '18 WRX , and traded the '18 in for a '19 STI. Was it worth it ???? OH YEAAAAAAAA !!!!!! :)
Thanks for watching and I totally agree with you!
I'm looking at a series white vs an sti. How much did you get your sti for and how much did your insurance go up for sti?
Tom Zeto who cares, just get the STI ;)
"This is the final year of this generation..." AAAAAAAAAAND COVID.
Yeah, you can get the WRX with the CVT. You can have some fun. But the entire WRX community will hate you. I mean genuine _hatred._ You can tell folks you own a WRX. Just let them assume it's got a manual.
That is one very good point!
Last time I criticised some of the things you were saying on each one of your videos. This time u have done much better. Btw ur video titles are very catchy. Guud job.
Sydney Australia.
I really appreciate you taking the time to say that!
Owned a 2018 WRX Premium and traded it in for the 2020 STI base. The STI motor alone is worth the difference. They cut so many corners with the WRX vs the STI you're going to spend the difference if you inspire to own a STI. My 2018 WRX has horrible audio, boost issues (see why people are putting a cobb tuner on it, it was "chugging" at WOT) and the unequal length manifold didn't feel like a subaru. Spend the extra money and get an STI, it's worth it.
I owned a '17 WRX before it got totaled, and it was EASILY my favorite car to drive. Most people don't like the turbocharged engines because of its non-linear acceleration, and the WRX is no exception, but I actually loved getting all that power with minimal depression to the pedal. The amount of passing power you get with such ease, and torque in the low RPMS, makes it worth it. Plus its fairly light for an AWD vehicle, so it has that going for it. Anybody thinking of getting a WRX, you won't regret it. It's always touted for having the best in class acceleration, and I can attest to that. If there's ANYTHING I could harp on it for, is that shifting is pretty sloppy in first and second gear.
But for 8 to 10 thousand more . Is a STI worth it ?
I love this car, great for jumping out in traffic, no its not the fastest, runs well, looks grate.
I am so glad that you like this one.
It is worth every freakin penny. Had a 16 WRX for two years. Traded for a new 19 STi...put 10k on it already. Completely different car and experience. Those that back the WRX are trying to justify their purchase and prevent buyers remorse, arent really car people and just want a sporty car, or cant afford the STi. If you are a car guy/gal and can afford it. GET IT.
Great input Brandon from your experience!
I love my 2017 STI Limited. Absolutely love it!
I wish they would've included the Brembo brakes on the 2018 model because I always thought it was weak that they called it a 'performance' package but all you really got that year was little bit of weight savings with the moonroof delete and 1/2 Recaros. And the 'upgraded' brake pads.
I've had an MY00 WRX, MY02 Forester Turbo, MY06 WRX, MY08 STi R spec the STi was insanely better and more fun than the WRX. One of my staff had the MY08 WRX and said he thought it was quick until he was in the car with me and I floored the STi onto a freeway. The STi has just enough power that you can drive the living christ out of it and it isn't dangerous, it also has strong enough gearbox and suspension that nothing ever breaks. After 12 years of turbo subaru's that I drove like they were stolen and I had a heater fan die, had to recondition a power steering pump and broke a supsension linkage on a massive pothole. If you service them properly and put high octane fuel in them (and don't modify them on the cheap) they are super fun, super reliable and have great resale value. I bought my STi R Spec second hand for $35k and sold it for $29k after 5 years. So the logical choice a couple of years ago was to get an Audi RS3 now thats a whole other level of mentaly quick.
You Are The Best Car Review Guy On TH-cam no doubt im Forshure gonna save up that extra 10 thousand the 2020 STI is absolutely Phenomenal it drives smoother and the inside also looks better 🔥🔥🔥
I appreciate Joe’s committed and professional regimen! With enough work, you’ll go places!
wrx is actually quicker 0-60 because of low end power band. That sold me being that i dont track it and only rip around on back roads. Just couldn't see spending $10k extra for suspension, trans, older less reliable engine (Ringland). If you have the money to blow sure go with the STI, but the WRX is more bang for your buck.
They actually fixed that 2019 and up are solid
I really like the sound of the 2020 sti it's a mean sounding car
I totally agree with you Dillion.
Lol you’ll never hear an STI owner go “you know what, I should have got the WRX.” Meanwhile every WRX owner at some point feels buyers remorse and wishes they got the STI.
Me to my non-car friends: I've got an STI
Non-car friends: uuuuuhhhhh🤔
This actually happened to me 😂😂😂
This is kinda the only reason that I want an sti over a wrx
I will personally take the wrx all day. Tune, exhaust , CAI , upgrade the clutch, shifter you have a very capable car for considerably less then the sti. It is all personal preference though.
Love my '18 STi. Figures they wait till the last year of this style to actually add the front vents. Would love to see underneath to see how/what they did. Wish they would have just done it from the start, but oh well, no complaints! Love the video!
Lol, I'd go with a wing delete. I'm just not into large wings. But of course you should get the wing. It's nice to have options.
Joe! I always admire you every time you do a car review!
That Sub. STI is cool..
Thanks Rob for saying that! It really means a lot!
In Kenya we get WRX S4 producing 296hp from a 2.0 litre DIT boxer. It's a joy to drive.
Great video! Heck, all of your videos are fantastic! I’ve had a 2011 WRX and now a 2017 WRX (both manual) and love them both! Just checked our video on the 2021 Audi S4 and you’ve convinced me to make the move. Keep up the amazing work! Thanks for sharing your love of all things cars. Take care and stay safe!
Your channel has been incredible for someone in the market for a 15-21 WRX/STI. Love your enthusiasm about these cars, and also am jealous of your Type RA!
Can't wait until you get your hands on the next gen coming out this month!
I own a 2002 WRX wagon. I drool over the new STi every year, but mine just keeps running. I don't put on a lot of miles per year, so it could easily go 5-10 years more. Now if they offer a hatchback STi, I could definitely be persuaded.
The Type R is only gonna be faster in perfect conditions. I live in Canada, and could crush a new Type R with my old WRX driving up to the ski resort, 4 wheel drifting in 6 inches of fresh snow, or in the summer on gravel...
Depends on what you want. I went WRX because I wanted a sporty family car that was fun to drive, get good gas mileage (average 29.4 on the highway). If I were single I'd go STI all day....
Thanks for your input and perspective! I appreciate you watching!
Really nice and loved the video. Awesome comparison, STI is my next car if I can swing it!
Marc Hufnagel thanks for saying that!
Thanks for the great review, man. I love your enthusiasm and the overview of each model without droning on. The only feedback I'd give is that you film the STI in the forward view like you did with the WRX. It would also be great if you dedicated more time to exhaust sounds - maybe even a cold start sound for each and prolonged idling sounds after warmed up.
About to purchase my first brand new car around September it's gonna be the 2021 WRX STI. The catch is since all units in my country are sold out mine would come 4 to 6 months later I pay but I have complete control of the color, interior, and accessories. I can't wait.
You can definitely put the wrx fogs on the STi.
I bet you can option the c.f. on the STi dash like older models.
If it fits a wrx it fits an STi (mostly)
For the right amount of money you can do anything!
The best way to tell the difference between a wrx and an sti? The brakes. Wrx people can add wings, change wheels, very rarely do they change to big brakes.
This is true!
Mr. Raiti, thanks for gathering two iconic vehicles for us and thanks to Subaru of Port Richey for supplying them.
Best reviewer ever. I used to dislike your video and personality, you definitely grew on me😂😂 if im looking for a car and it hasn’t been reviewed by raiti im not even considering it
Got a 2020 WRX myself 😁 Much love to the rest of the Subi family for being fortunate to own one 😁
Thanks for the comparison video Joe! I went with the wing delete on my 2019 STI but everyone has their priorities. I just like the cleaner look and lines of the car without the wing. I have always liked flying under the radar without drawing unnecessary attention from the men and women in blue.
Very good points Robert!
What a great way to spend the evening - Raiti’s Rides and a couple World Rally blue beauties!
Thanks Tim! That really means a lot!
Heading to a local dealer tomorrow morning to look @ a 2020 STI limited in lapis blue with the wing delete (yeah, I know!) and this was a helpful comparison, Joe. Thanks!
I like how you talk about a manual transmission and knowing how to do your thing.... Here in South Africa, most cars are manual; mine too.... I'm going auto for my next car, because driving a manual car in our traffic is crazy annoying and tiring for your left foot.
Can't go wrong with 6 speed 👌
Watching your videos have me really debating on getting the wrx but of course the limited trim and cvt. But awesome job with the vids, keep em coming!
Thanks for letting me share my passion with you!
CVT why?
At the end of the day it comes down to ones budget. Personally having driven both back in 018, I could never buy the WRX .. after driving the STi... to do so for me would be settling for less. I just hope the 021 cars don’t look like theToyota Corolla 🤣🤣🤣
I totally agree with you! It will be interesting to see how they turn out.
If you've not purchased one yet probably best to wait a year until the new gen is revealed. Either it'll be what everyone's wanting ... or not. And yeah hopefully it won't look like a 2008 Corolla. Them tail lights. Ugh.
I'm at the point in my life when I could have bought either. Decided on the WRX for a few reasons. One, this is a daily driver and the ride in the STi is just to bone rattling. Two, the engine the STi is very old engine, Yesterdays tech. The old STi engine has no direct injection, no dual scroll turbo, ect... The WRX's FA20F engine is simply better and has better throttle response at lower RPM range, much better around town rather then waiting for boost to build. It also has much better fuel economy. Finally it more responsive to tunes then the older STi engine. If I was still tracking cars the STi may make more scene but as a daily driver you can beat the WRX.
Joe must have known I was going through withdrawal of hearing him talk about the WRX/Sti.
I have to pay attention to those symptoms! ;-)
😂 I am forever grateful. I am waiting for after the holidays, than I am going to try to get myself in a WRX premium, something about the ice silver speaks to me.
The WRX is a legend and the engine and AWD system are World Class. That 6 speed trans however, not so much…If Subaru would put a better manual trans in the STI this car would be class leading…
Absolutely LOVE my 19 STi Joe, Love everything about it including the boy racer wing! Looking forward to what Subaru come out with in 2021 but it won't be the same with out the EJ headers and boxer sound.... Keep the content up mate, always happy when I see a new video to watch :)
Great review. You can really tell you have a passion for cars. Keep it up Raiti.
Thanks for saying that! It really means a lot!
short answer, yes. yes it is.
Hey Joe, the WRX you reviewed has single zone automatic climate control. Better than regular AC but not as good as dual zone climate control in some cars. Great review by the way!
Thanks for that info! I appreciate it!
when break in calls for no more than 4K rpm for a thousand miles but you redline it for a review... real nice.
oh woah... 9:32 !! there's an original Japanese Tokyo Roki oil filter(black filter). thats a gem. That truly means that car was built in Japan. Until your first oil change in America, then subaru dealerships will install horrible quality "blue" oil filters - which is worse quality in every way :(
You are so very right!
Seeing 2020 STi around here for $35k now brand new. They're starting to dump them before refresh. I might have to jump on it lol that's cheaper than the WRX Premium was
“Growing up is overrated.”
True that. Lol 😂
If you live in Germany with no speed limits then YES it's worth it more 10,000$. But am from Canada so I picked WRX over STI.
*Reasons for picking WRX:* 1) Fastest speed limit is 120 km/hr so WRX more than enough. I like my driving record CLEAN, 2) Automatic option, 3) Same exterior styling/ interior design, 4) With full fuel tank 100-150 Kms more range than STI, 5) 50$ cheaper to insure on monthly basis, 6) Almost same 0-100 km/hr times, 7) Newer engine 8) More comfortable and better family sedan.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
@@RaitisRides Your videos are very informative. Thank you.
The 93 octane requirement for the STI is also a hard pill to swallow when you live in Canada (with our insane gas price). The WRX run on 91 or even 87 (although it will probably run like sh*t)
Keep doing Subaru vids I love them
Allan Gudino you got it my friend!
That’s not how the DCCD works. It does not send more power to the front or rear. Also, most Subaru’s have three differentials.
Regardless of the 2020. I owned a 16 WRX and now a 19 STI. Yes, it’s worth the extra 10k.
Love this episode. The comparisons btw the two cars was very informative and both cars are a good buy which ever one you can afford. Keep up the good work. 👍🏾👍🏾
I bought a 2019 cvt Wrx without knowing i was committing a sin then bought a 05 Wrx to learn standard it blew up sold the cvt for a 2020 sti never looked back
I hope that the next generation WRX and STI are a remodeled and not just another refresh.
I love my 19 sti
WRX STI I would too! 😎👍🏻
I love my 2019 STI base.Also it does not have the 2500.00 option of seats and push button start!They should still be an option.
Considering the wrx because of the price point, also unfortunately I never was able to learn manual on anyone’s car so I’m forced to stick with the sport tech. I don’t think there’s an awd sports sedan on the market that is at this price point. Anything above $40k cad jumps up $10k +. Thanks for the reviews they help with the shopping process!
I am so glad that I could share this one with you!
That’s a bad reason to not buy a manual. You expect someone else to let you potentially destroy their synchros, gears and wear out all their clutch components? Driving manual is easy and can be learned in a single afternoon. Don’t be scared of it just buy one and you’ll learn driving it home from the dealership like a real man.