911 Turbo S Cabriolet vs. V12 Vantage S Roadster - Fifth Gear
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- Vicki is battling out the Porsche 911 Turbo S Cabriolet against the Aston Martin V12 Vantage S Roadster!
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Turbo S 0-62 : 3.2
V12 V S 0-62 : 3.9
"It's a touch slower" In my book, 0.7 seconds is a massive difference on a 0-62.
But in real world terms (which is where a lot of Aston Martin owners live ) it’s completely irrelevant
I bought a 2007 Vantage a little while ago for reasons that have nothing to do with it being the fastest or most technically developed vehicle under Heaven. I bought it because it was beautiful and unique, the (relatively) modern incarnation of the Triumph Tr8s I owned as a much younger man, tailor made to the desires of (what I like to think of as!) a mature 55 year old gentleman. It is a car I am in love with, and although love is a personal preference, it is a term I could never use when describing a Porsche.
Aww, c'mon... I love the Aston but you can't put it up against the 911! We all know the Aston doesn't stack up on the track. What's the point? I'd always take the Aston over a Porsche, but I'd never take up a challenge of any kind.
The Aston is best suited running across continents in beautiful at your own pace wishing your were James Bond, they don't need the validation of trying to set the fastest lap times. They're not track cars.
Quarter of a second?? she was probably breaking during the full lap with the 911 LOL
Víctor P She was... HA! PORSCHE SUCKS BALLS... no wait PORSCHE SWALLOWS
The Purple Diamond No, sorry, thats your mum. LOL
Víctor P And she's not even good at it :D
Aston Martin loses EVERY comparison they take part of, even against much cheaper rivals. The 911 is the perfect car. It is technically up to date, which the Aston just isn't (look at that navigation system!!), it is fastest around the track, it got four seats if you have to pick up more than one colleague of yours for a trip to the bar, the maintenance is cheaper, it got much better reliability, etc. etc.
BUT I'd still go for the Aston. That's not a rational decision, I'd just would like to have something special for that money. Who cares if it is slower on the track or from the line of the traffic lights? You buy an Aston to enjoy your ride, especially in a roadster.
Too right!
no most of the time Aston's win it's just they are compared to rivals that are more powerful and lighter and if you were talking about there racing other than Ferrari and Porsche they are the most winning team in history
Theo John You compare cars by price. If you get a much better car (Porsche 911) for the price of an Aston Martin V8 V., then the comparison is completely legit. Who else should you compare the V8 Vantage against? Audi TT?!
To be honest I was surprised the Aston did so well. The Turbo S is 200kg lighter and has more torque. Maybe the Turbo would be a closer match on the track, although it would be cheaper.
But then again, the Turbo S is AWD, so it has much more grip.
@@farishanafiah8461 all the more reason to use the base 911 Turbo instead of the Turbo S.
@@ph4tboy Even the base 911 Turbo is AWD. There's no RWD 911 Turbo. The last time Porsche did that was the 964 generation.
The British want the Aston not to lose too much of course.
I'd have the Aston any day. The thing just looks fantastic especially considering how old it is at this point. I think we all knew the Porsche would take the win here, but what surprised me was how small the gap was. I would have guessed half a second at least.
Who cares about track time within the inner city limits. The Aston oozes beauty!
Did anyone actually think the Aston would win? lol yeah right..
Torrey B exactly my thoughts... it's becoming ridiculous, Aston gets its ass handed to it in pretty much every comparo by way cheaper rivals (resembles Jag in that aspect)
and i tend to believe if Plato was the one doing this test the difference would be more significant
Yes, I actually wrote this before even watching. Very surprised that they were so evenly matched...must be driver error haha
Torrey B With Viki driving them for a British TV show? Yeah, I thought there was a slim chance. She did get them very close...
Torrey B No but i didn't expect it to be so close.
If you watch GT3 competition, these cars are being used and have very similar finishes and the Aston Martin wins sometimes. I think it's the image of Porsche that it's some super super super car that gets everybody's ideas skewed a little. The Astons did have better laps at Le Mans.
That's much closer than I expected.
I expected the 911 to be waaaay faster than that
That was way to close for all the handling tech the 911 has.
Me too but just look at how she drifts while doing the fast lap in the porsche
Light Yagami Consider the source and the gash driving. With a proper driver, the Porsche would have posted WAY better numbers. Women should stick to what they know, preparing food and changing diapers.
***** she's professional and a better driver than you.
***** You might want to research who you talk shit about. She could out drive you in any conditions on the planet. Your Mom may be a lame ass, but that doesn't mean you should go by her as an example for other women. SMH.
"Her racing escapades have included stints in Caterhams, Renault Spiders,
Radicals a Citroen 2CV in the 24 hour endurance race and even a Citroen
Saxo in an ice race! She went on to make history by becoming the first
woman ever to win a Maserati race in 2002."
www.gomotorsport.net/Go-Info/Key-Figures/Vicki-Butler-Henderson
i cant afford either, but ide have to choose the aston, rwd, v-12, and that color combo, very nice
911 being 4wd I expected it to hammer the Aston! Well Done Aston Martin...
however - which would I choose considering I own a Cayenne, I'd have the Aston Martin
every time, ask me that question 10 or 20 years ago, you'd get the same answer!
Rwd cars tend to be able to corner faster than awd due to less understeer and front end weight
@@TheFlyingClutchman awd accerelarates better out of corners and are very nimble with rear wheel steering
@@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797 that's true but corner entry speed is slower due to understeer. Rear wheel steering helps negate that but you still get more than rwd do to the lack of 50/50 weight distribution. Furthermore, rwd cars tend to be lighter overall, especially when then they don't have the rear wheel steering system and awd system's weight. A lighter car will always have faster corner entry speeds as they understeer less due to low weight. That's why the miata can keep up with faster cars on tight tracks. So yeah an awd car has the advantage on tracks that have less turns but not tight tracks that have lots of corners
when she drives the Porsche she doesn't really try to get the best out of the car but with the Aston she drove it like her life depends on it typical British hypocrites
Her life depends on it LMAO. Good comment bro!
Morty Ash Because Aston and her are both British.
your a fool
The Porsche's time was actually way faster than that. What Vicki didn't tell you was that the time she posted included a run to the local coffee house for a cafe latte with extra cream.
Porsche should of annihilated the Aston. Poor driving ?
Woman driving...
Daniel Banaru you’ve commented this so many times.. we get it
Funny how in motortrend(on streets of willow) laptimes Panamera Turbo is 2.2s faster than V12 Vantage S, but here its almost neck and neck with Turbo S.
+Kremer „935K3“ Drei It's because Vicky cannot drive it properly.
Vicky doesnt seem herself in this shoot-out, like restraind she even spun the Aston. she seemed nervous with the 911. The old vicki wouldve really had the 911 2 seconds quicker if she was brave like before.
If you run the video back to the slow motion across the line, you can also see that it is Ben Collins driving the 911. I'd thought it was the presenters doing those laps and I believe much of the time, it is. Maybe there really was something we didn't know about Vicky during filming and she wasn't feeling up to it.
For sure, the Aston. Nice drive, Luv!!
Fake!!!! Porsche is way faster
Woman driver...
Porsche makes more 911s in a year than Vantages ever made. This alone is enough to make the Vantage more desirable.
There's nothing special about a porsche no matter how fast it is. Isn't that what you buy those cars for- to be special?? The Aston is the complete car, the sound, looks, the exclusivity AND it's still very fast! People who say they shouldn't be making cars are idiots, Aston still have the best brake and steering feel in its class plus they've won the coolest brand of the year many a time. The hate on Aston needs to stop.
If you only bought a car to be special, you'd end up at the side of the road every day. I wouldn't trust an unproven brand with no dealer networks (Aston). With a Porsche, I can daily drive it and trust its' dealers.
1) U don't compare an aston martin vantage with a 911 turbo s.
2) should compare it with a cayman that would be quite fair
3)U don't know how to drive
4)stop being typical British hypocrites by pulling that 911 down, because truth is, that porsche completely destroys that aston
Shes used to race David Coulthard in karts....just saying
Still the Aston for me.
What car would you buy if you were in the market for 2017? Porsche,Aston Martin,Mercedes? Thanks for all YOU do?
They really wanted the Aston to win... Too bad porsche is THAT better at making awesome cars
is a car so awesome because it is slightly faster than it's rival? it's all about how it feels and looks rather than how fast it is... porsche has no exhaust sound.....
Vic K That's a given with a turbocharged engine. The fact that the porsche is a superior car isn't derived from it being faster on a certain track, though it goes to show how much time these Germans have spent perfecting each aspect of it
+Victor K Porsche has no exhaust sound? On video it doesn't. Also, if you're that concerned, get yourself a GT3, you'll be shitting bricks at 9000RPM.
The Aston looks better, Is better made, has a better sound, more comfortable and is more equipped than the porsche. Apart from the lap time, why would you even consider getting the porsche?
Samlawts 1 Looks better? Sure maybe. Made better? Nope. Astons break everything from engines to electronics. Porsches don't. Ever. Better sound? Maybe, but get a GT3 if you want pure sound and driving. More equipped? Are you kidding right now? That Porsche has more interior options than most luxury cars. Aston has a 10-year old nav system that doesn't even work.
Considering the dangerous Porsche with its lethal pendulum effect engine [slung out behind the rear axle] and 4WD to hopefully reign it in, it speaks volumes that the Aston was only one quarter of a second slower.
Sorry,but this is no substitute for Top Gear...
She hates seatbelts haha
It does not stop at 198 mph, it's an understatement from Porsche. Many people are led to believe it stops at 198, herd it in many reviews before but it's just wrong. Don't know the exact top speed but it's quite a bit over 198.
+Philip sode
and so are the Porsche 0-100 times... The 911 Turbo S in tests is always measured between 2.5-2.8 seconds! So it's as fast as the Bugatti Veyron Supersport which has more than the double of the horsepower! And who knows if it really reaches the claimed 2.6 seconds from 0-100...
I love 911s but that S costs way too much not to be able to hit 200mph.
Turbo is much faster.. 0-100km/h tested at 2.8sec
the only thing these 2 have in common are power and price.
I'm more worried about the amount of time both of these will be on a flatbed, rather than a track.
My brother had a Porsche, and it was the biggest piece of unreliable cra@p I've ever seen. And Porsche UK ... those people really don't give a cr@p if you've just spent £100,000+ with them!
As for Aston, my boss had one;
Month 1 - 16 days at the dealer being fixed
Month 2 - 15 days
Month 3 - 18 days at the dealer being fixed
... there wasn't a Month 4!
Both Mercedes and Porsche make GT3 cars and both raced in the Le Mans. Using last years model in GT Am was the Aston V8 they did place 7 place 7th while Porsches finished 3rd and Fifth with out of all Amateurs the Aston got best lap time. In the GT Pro Aston beat Porsche but the Porsche looked like it had some mechanical problems, but the Aston got the better time. It's either just a coincidence with better drivers or these two cars aren't two different. Personally I'd take the Benz or the Bentley, I don't care much for Aston or Porsche.
I'm surprised to know that the Vantage is £3,000 less than the 911.
I think these idiots are forgetting... Aston Martin is a LUXURIOUS car manufacturer, most of their products are made just for cruising and such, you want an Aston Martin that can compete with a 911 Turbo? take a look at possibly the One-77 or the Vulcan
It probably wouldn't matter anyways but the wet track favored the AWD Porsche.
Hardly comparable
I will buy a vantage
150k for a beetle 😱😱😱...no thanks
It is the best and most iconic sportscar in the history mind you.
Could you just imagine being the child of Vicki and she is driving you to school..........
+memberofthetribe1 Or imagine being the fuck buddy of Vicky and she is driving you back home. Several times a week
Come on! The gap between the Porsche and the Aston should be at least 1 second per round. How biaised is that ???
Turbo S 0-62 2.8 not 3.2.
I'd just have an r8 v10 convertible for 130k and 20k engine and chassis mods
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Bad driver
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicki_Butler-Henderson
all jokes aside, 911 S still look the same 13 years ago, VBH look the same 13 years ago.
you are kidding right? 911 looks didnt change much since day 1 not just past 13 yrs lol. Porsche believes in refinement in design, not fuck it and start new.
Aston all day every day
The turbo s cab is 2.6...... I used to be a lot tech at a Porsche dealer so I got to drive pretty much every model. And I hate when these car journalist say bull shit lies. There obviously getting payed to make the other car to look good. Granted I'm not as nearly good as of driver they are but I still know how they feel.
The reason the two times were in the same ballpark is because this woman seemed to be driving like a grandma. I'd imagine if you had the likes of Sabine Schmitz driving, you'd have a real comparison. I'd take either car, BTW.
I'd definitely take the Aston
whats up with red interiors? Jesus fucking Cristus Dominus... you can get migrane just sitting in the damn thing
I don't care if the Aston Martin is slower. I'd still rather have that than an expensive Beetle.
I don't care either. I'd have the Aston Martin any day.
Uzair Syed Wow your comment is so original!
Uzair Syed I'm an Aston fan but with that Beetle comment you just disqualified for any serious discussion. I don't call Aston a Ford/Volvo either.
+Majora that's cos its not a Ford or a Volvo, its independent now
Samlawts 1
That Vantage was built during the Ford era. I wouldn't call it a Ford either. So your argument is invalid.
Im at the intro part and by the caption I know the Porsche is the winner. Why is Aston Martin still making cars???
''Why is Aston Martin still making cars???'' Dumbest question I have ever heard.
Yet the answer cant be found! BTW y´r the smartest user on youtube talking about car industry. Congrats
U wont find the answer anywhere, unless u start loving cars
If I dont love Aston Martin I dont love cars in general...
...and I wanted so bad to find the answer!!!
The "Love cars" line isnt about aston martin
factual errors: 991 turbo s gets to 60 in 2.6
This driver also sucked. Jethro Bovingdon did a 1:14:2 in a 458 speciale and then a 1:13:6 in a 991 turbo S
that porche looks so slow
aston forever
legend
...terrible
Jack Coe no way
Jack Coe - Shame let the beetle lover have his moment
I'd take the Aston
***** because im black! Thats a little.bit incredibly racist dude.
+justin smith and Aston is way nicer looking than the porche
Haven't you hear how that guy from the series, Fast ad Furious died, Paul Walker? He died in a Porsche. It is a proven fact the Porsche's tires are to thin to be make a left turn at a 100 degree angle at 25 mph. Aston, however can make a 100 degree turn at 25 mph. Dumbasses, Aston Martin is way better. Oh, and also Porsche's strength sucks. He went in flames when he hit that pole guys.
Paul Walkers car was going too fast, and it crashed, driver error
porsche 💪💪💪
*YAWN*
Aston Martin vs Pretty Much Anything, AM loses
that is so funny , apart from le mans the biggest race in Europe which It came second in
Samlawts 1 so it got beaten again
dude you probably think i am hating on AM, but it rather saddens me that they always only win on stuff like "soul" or "character"... hopefully one day they manage to build something that beats its counterpart from Porsche on performance
It's ok mate its just we have lived with a v8 vantage for two years now and I assure you it is a fantastic car
Vs Golf R...no wait Genesis 3.8 nnoooo? Mustang ecoboost...no wait F type R...no wait 2004 912 turbo...no..Lamborghini Countach 25 the anniversary edit....noo? Ferrari 575... noo Ferrari Modena nnoo? TR 512 nooo? Saab Viggen BMW i8. 370 z Nismo ..noo? Maserati MC Stradale? Nooo? Hmm but any new Ferrari Lambo or McLaren will beat it but those are outrageously fast and agile cars. All the cars I mentioned are very fast and the Aston outruns and outlaps them
poor test
Still the Vantage? Really? I mean is Aston bankrupt or will they ever consider designing something new again? Atleast 911's have optically changed whilst maintaining the classic form, but Aston?
it's funny cos it is bankrupt
love to see a woman who knows how to handle the wheels....
Fani Tsoka Are you for real? 😂 haha, she spun out once or twice and took the corners very slowly for some reason
Aston every time. Porsche is ugly in comparison.
really can't stand this show.....
Hopeless driving.
Still better than your driving.