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It's definitely not a perfect chair, but it still suits my needs better than anything else on the UK market.
I have no problems using it for work or gaming.
I’ve just bought this chair for gaming. I currently have the embody which is pissing my lower back off and is not comfy on my bum after 30 mins. I hope this Aeron changes that
@@Captain-Chats How was it compared to the Embody now that you have it? I went with Aeron knowing how comfy it is but was sad I had to pass up on the Embody because I heard issues about lower back pain. Is the grass really greener on the Aeron side?
@@Captain-Chatsdid u keep Aeron?
@@shrek22 no I sent it back it made my back worse
This chair is meshed up.
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Not being able to cross your legs is a positive, given its bad for your circulation. I think overall the inflexibility of the chair is kinda the point, its to force you to maintain a good posture. At least this my hope as I'm considering getting one.
Very valid point. This is part of the reason I do still love the Aeron. I like that it keeps me in a great ergo position. The truth is... sometimes I want to kick back and relax in my chair, and the limited seating positions can be a problem. - RG
@@garo5284 That's why you must stand up and walk for a bit every once in a while :)
@@barbosa7797 That's applies to any chair so your point is irrelevant.
Besides the cross leg seating (which is still somewhat possible for me on the C as a 6' person), I dont see any others being an issue really. I opted to go for the aeron instead of the embody because of longevity and dont regret my decision (after testing both).
My biggest complaint I have is that the armrest dont lock in place hard enough. If I'm moving in/out of the chair or just moving the chair and I end up holding the arm rest, they will adjust (depth and width) involuntarily.
@@AL-qj9yh C has much better shoulder support for me, and a bigger seat helps as well somewhat if u like sitting cross one leg in certain situations. I tried out a B and C and opted for the C purely for the extra shoulder support. The B felt tiny to me.
Thanks for sharing your experiences nglyo. It's definitely true that many of these "problems" won't be an issue for everyone. Glad you were able to find a chair you're happy with! - RG
The Aeron Remastered and the Classic are both really amazing. Cannot beat the recline and the adjustability of just about every aspect of what’s important for tasking or relaxing. Getting a Remastered on sale is the key to feeling even better about the choice if you’re going that route.
Did you get this over Embody?
Bro just gave me 10 reasons to buy the chair wtf
I loved it for office work, but this was a good reminder why I have not bought it for home use.
I have had an Aeron for years and it is absolutely wonderful. I am ruined for all other chairs. :) I have fibromyalgia and sitting for a long time is very painful for me, except in the Aeron. I can game for 14h straight, although I don't have that sort of endurance anymore.
1:55 You seem to have missed a few of the adjustments available.
I also suffer from fibromyalgia and I'm looking for a chair. Do you think it's worth to spend 2k on this chair? It's such a huge investment for me lol. But at the same time my body is full of pain, I really need a comfortable chair
@@itswazowski To me, it was worth the cost, but then I got a 15% discount. My back is 300% better.
@@GlassDeviant thank you so much for the reply, I'll get one of them refurbished which should make them easier :))
I had 2 Areon chairs for years thinking it was the best chair. After years my lower back started hurting, didn't even consider it was my Aeron at Home, and at the office. Then the day came when we were moving our office to a different location and I saw the Herman Miller Embody Gaming chair thought it was cool so I bought 2 of them for clients that came into my new office for a visit, since our new office was not quite ready had the Embody chairs delivered to my house, well one thing lead to another and I used one of the Embody chairs at my office at my house, and within a day or two my back pain started going away, here we are 2 weeks later and the pain in my lower back is almost gone, and so are my 2 Aeron Chairs 1 went to Goodwill, and the other I sold cheap just to get rid of it. Never looking back
One more con: I love the chair, but it's not easy to clean it. Dust tends to collect in various nooks and crannies under the seat and behind the backrest. It's a little thing but sometimes annoying.
As a fellow Aeron owner, I can attest to the veracity of this statement.
Very true. And that "dust" is probably your pants getting grated 😆 - RG
@@btodtv I hadn't thought of that. Rather hilarious, actually!😀
Just get a small electric air blower. It will clean it in seconds.
@@OrcaSpace Good suggestion. Thanks.
I see only 3 reasons not to buy a aeron, if you don't like mesh (even though aerons mesh is something else and to me mesh seats are a acquired taste).
You live in a very cold country and you don't have heating.
If you NEED to seat cross legged.
I think you could also add a lack of seat depth adjustment.
Even though Herman Miller offer 3 different sizes, sometimes ppl end up being in between two sizes.
@@StardustLegacyFighter agreed, if you don't fit it, you don't fit it.
If someone is buying an HM Aeron i can guarantee you they have heating in their house
@@DanyFive_ not me 😂😂😂
The Audio on the Flatulence was absolutely on point. Happen to be yawning with my headphones on (eww). And Greg's face, let's face it, completed it all. OH WAIT! Credit where it's due. The Crew! The Crew sold it! Yeah, that was just Wrong. But probably in a fun and shorty after, smelly way :) .. but uhh, good review!
lol -Greg
I've been looking for chairs and a lot of people recommended the Aeron but with this review I have realized it's def not for me, thank you for the thoroughness and honesty!
Alright I am 35, 173cm/5'8 75kg-165lbs and I've got minor scolioses and genetic lower back problems and I work and play and I live at my computer..
I went to a store today to try out the Aeron and the Embody chair.. and I must say I do not get why the Emody Chair supposed to be so good.
My main problem with the chair is the lumber support. it is very pointy and aggressive and takes away the rest of the chair that gives you that lounge feeling. If the lumber would be adjustable then that chair would change my whole mind. But the choice of automatic lumber adjustment is wrong for the design imo.
The Aeron chair in the other way felt so perfect! And even thought it is mesh and a bit more stiff then cushioned.. you can't compare the mesh of the Aeron with most of the other chairs (at least the ones I've tried). Exaclty as he says in the video, you feel floaty and actually quite sink into the chair but it really gives you the support youy would need if you got a bad back.
I can see how I would not like the chair because I usually take my foot up a lot! But tbh that is just becasue the chait I am sitting in is just to big... I've got a racing chair atm and that is what gives me huge problems when I do it to long in my lower back quickly and aggresive. SO imo you should not buy a chair where you are possible to get weird positions like that.
If I would get a chair where I can sit like he suggested I would get a Titan or something where you got all the space to get in to your positions as you please.. but I am very sure that 99% of the people who love the Titan chair are people who are blessed with a healthier back.
BUT because of this video I am going the next days to another shop to try out the Steelcase chairs. I am still not quite comfy with Herman Millers prices but will invest in one if the Steelcases are no good.
This channel is blessed for what they do and they helped me more then anything or anyone related to office chairs. But you have to consider too that YOU HAVE TO TRY OUT THE CHAIR and if you don't live in the USA as I do, the nyou have quite less options a need to check warrenties again for your country.
Usually you will pay exxtra somwhere becasue we have to send in our chairs or parts to the USA.
But again. Thanks BYODtv. Wish you had some people in Australia for recommendations.
As well as trying out the Steelcase chairs, such as the Leap v2, Amia, and Karman, you should also try out the Haworth Zody and Fern.
@@StardustLegacyFighter unfortuantely I've got no chance oin trying out most of the chairs you named. The Haworth Fern is selling a very cheap version of their own chair in our officeworks (large office supplies chain) and that is it. Even the Hemran Millers come directly fro mthe USA as soon somethign is a bit custom
@@Szenenmischa That sucks.
Aside from the aforementioned Steelcase chairs, I'm not really familiar with what else they sell tbh.
What Steelcase chairs are usually available within Australia?
@@StardustLegacyFighter I tried out the Gesture without headrest and the Leap had no lumberbar and headrest too so I wasn't really able to say much and just went for the Aeron... I was sick of going to shops and not even full chairs there... now it is done and I never have to look again I hope
@FiQ That's understandable.
Hopefully, the Aeron works out for you
What desk did you go with in this video? Are there matching file cabinets? Thanks
never realized how useful the tilt forward is, I can finally lean back now! cheers!~
I'm looking for a durable commercial-grade office chair because I sit for many hours of the day. It must have: 1) extra thick seat pad cushion (not mesh) to sustain years of constant sitting and 2) adjustable arm rests that turn inward because I like my arm position next to my body. Can you recommend any chair?
What chair do u recommend then ?
The ones they get the biggest kickback on...
;)
Thanks for the work done guys, but it would be useful a video about 2023 chairs of the 200/400 range also available in Europe, something more compared to the ticova to understand. Thanks and greetings from Italy
Since these guys are based in the USA, it's pretty difficult for them to get a hold of many European chairs to review.
@@StardustLegacyFighter I understand, will it still be possible to have a list of chairs that are an evolutionary step compared to the ticova while remaining in the range of 150 to 300?
Thanks again
How do you clean/wash the mesh? 🤔
Soap and water, Just detach them and air dry
@Relics Thank you! ☺️
One more con is that it lacks basic adjustments like seat recline locking and seat depth slider.
Surprised you didn’t mention the reason for the warranty: they break hard! Can’t tell you how many I had fixed that broke in the seat at my office. We designated a room for misfit chairs where they waited to be fixed. Warranty used to be lifetime, but I believe they limit it now due to high cost and incidence of repairs.
12 years is still a lot.
Found one used $225 used. Good condition. Should I still get it since it’s a good price? Aeron B
i'm pretty late but i think it's always a good idea to go into a store and try it out before buying
so for foot, knee and criss cross, what chair do you recommend?
herman miller embody
Hi , what is your desk?
What size does the 6’2” man in this video use?
I’d love to know that too.
I'm 6'2" and I have the C size. There is a chart for size/weight and which size you should pick, but it has a huge "B or C" section for a large range of sizes. But I'd recommend C to anyone over 6'. With the B size I found the shoulder area to be a bit less comfortable than with the C size.
Have you guys reviewed a LifeForm chair like their Executive High-Back or is that out of price range for most people?
É exatamente por essas limitações, que no início me incomodou bastante, que é a única cadeira que resolveu minhas dores no cóccix. Não se trata de uma cadeira necessariamente confortável, mas sim que IMPOE, sem alternativa, uma postura adequada. Adapte-se a ela ou compre outra que se adapte a você.
1. Firm mesh. 2. Can't sit cross leg easily.
3. No back flex.
4. Can't move the sit area, must choose a size A,B,C.
5. No headrest.
6. Cool mesh good for hot weather or hot ass.😂
What happened to number two lol
Another con after getting chair: I can smell my farts now
🤣
They have these at work and it's good for my one day at the office for about 2-3 hours. But I could not imagine using it at home as I need something more flexible and adjustable. If I found one for around $500 bucks refurbished, sure, otherwise the money can be better spend on other chairs for sure. Leap, Fern, Embody do way more for less.
I've always preferred Sedus personally. No idea why more don't talk about those. Mine have lasted 20 years of heavy use so far.
which sedus do you have? I'm thinking about the se:pro light
@@WasteSecondmine is an older model (obvs haha) MR-102
@@BuzzaB77 thanks! :D
MIne is a year and a half old, and I sorely regret choosing to pay $2000 on my Aeron. As soon as I stop thinking about it, I find I have slid forward into a very unhealthy position.
I’d love to see HM to offer Atlas headrest with their chairs.
It’s crazy I almost dished out $1,700 for one. I decided to order the Karman. It will be here next week. Looking forward to your guys’ review on the Karman!
I had the Karman and compared it to my Aeron Remastered, I returned the Karman immediately and now I appreciate my Aeron more
@@rubendhernandez4748 Any specific reasons you can note? I’m definitely curious.
Karman is crap and feels cheap, Embody or Gesture is the way to go.
@@venom5809 Does the cheapness feeling maybe come from how light it is? Does the materials feel low quality?
Our Karman is on the way! We will give our opinions in the coming weeks. - RG
I still love the Aeron chair; it's the best. I agree with your last comment: If you don’t have enough funds, it’s a real deal breaker.
Been using and owning aerons for 20 years ..love 'em love 'em love'em......the only downside for me is the price At the moment I'm shopping for stool conversion kits cos I'm switching to a standing desk setup and the price of a stool version is mad.
My dream Aeron would include a stool as well, specifically for a standing desk. The price really is the biggest downside. It is because of the price that our expectations are so high. - RG
isn't the mesh got lose ?
@@밍하 It doesn't tend to sag like cheap mesh.
I'm in Melbourne Australia and chair shopping at the moment. There's a second hand store with some aerons not too far from me. Going to try them tomorrow. Otherwise can't seem to find anything else that I can actually test sit in... Down side as well is a lot of places offer returns for store credit only and have a really narrow range.
Oh well. Hope I like the Aeron. Cross legged thing might be an issue but i have short legs for my height. Might need to figure out how to get the Atlas here as well.
Do you get one?
@@vasiovasio No, I ended up getting a second head Steelcase Leap and it's been excellent.
@leapingtortoise super! ☺️☺️☺️
I've decided Robert is my go-to. His opinions seem to best match up with mine, even though I'm a bit shorter and fatter ;). Plus, seeing him lounge at his desk and scroll through F1 rankings, watch audiophile TH-camrs, all while talking about ergonomic office chairs and cable management... It's like he's my Midwestern doppelganger.
I love stays with my legs crossed and with one leg underneath until I started having varicose veins. That was the reason I developed them. So, as comfortable as that is, avoid that ffor the sake of your veins.
does a fully loaded chair include the forward tilt lock?
Yes it does.
I’ve bought a used classic aeron and I like it - granted I didn’t try any other high end chair so I can’t give an opinion on those. Kinda wish I could’ve found a used embody as that seems cool but I’m not disappointed.
Btw got the atlas headrest 4 days ago and all I can say is WOW. The fit and finish make it look like it is OEM. Bonus is it makes the chair look “balanced” if you know what I mean. Always thought my embody looked like it was missing something. Now it looks and feels end game.
Atlas always smash it with their headrests.
Far better than anything from Engineered Now.
Good call Stardust - Atlas is top tier and Engineered Now is a step down in comfort. - RG
@@StardustLegacyFighter But from an ergonomics perspective, if you need to rest your head you should actually get out of your chair and rest and not just stay in it, so headrests are not part of the science of ergonomics. Therefore, for the highest quality of this Atlas to be made, it does not matter why it is wrong. It's funny to be suggested. hahahaha
@jpSobhi Yeah, I think that's Herman Miller's stance on headrests, too.
I personally don't use one with my Aeron, and I've never really felt the need to have one.
However, a lot of ppl prefer to kick back and relax in their chairs, so for those individuals, it's perfectly fine to recommend Atlas headrests.
Steelcase sell a solid built-in headrest with the Gesture, and they do follow the Science of ergonomics with research backed evidence.
Love the Mirra, no idea why it didn't get bigger than the Aeron
Mesh backrest is just nicer in my opinion.
I’m 6.2ft tall and im really struggling with back and neck pain while working long hours. Has anyone suffered from the same thing and got better after buying this chair?
Just got the chair today, after about 4 hrs of use my back feels great. Although my hamstrings are on fire.. will see if there is a difference tomorrow. 6’5” Aeron C
@@anthonydifede4510 I ended up buying mine 2 months ago, i went to an authorized dealer and at first i thought of buying the embody but it didnt feel right so when i tryed out the Aeron C it felt like it was built for me.
I now feel less neck and back pain but i’ve discovered a few herniated disks and i also feel like this purchase is helping alot in my treatment as it forces me to be in the right position.
About your hamstrings complaint i didnt feel anything of the sort, some daily stretching and excercises might help you with that.
6'2" as well and I have to say that I used to have shoulder and neck issues but they went away really quick when I got my Aeron and started sitting upright. Also make sure your monitors are high enough. Sitting upright staring straight ahead with a straight neck should make you look at the upper third of the screen.
I’ve owned a used Aeron Classic size B for about a year, I loved it for the most part but after a while I realized I needed the smaller size and sold it. So for me the biggest flaw is the lack of adjustments.
isn't size B medium? Is size B not good for guys 5'8??
@@Bambledamble yeah but I’m 5’4 short 😅
kg?
i have Aeron with 20y of use and still rocking but i do not like it. I use a Embody and my wife uses the aeron. To be honest i find it to be too expensive to what it is. The embody on the other hand is just the best office chair i ever tried by some margin. The warranty on the chairs alone is worth a lot. I got multiple parts replaced with no cost at all over the years.
I couldn't disagree with you more! If Life were Perfect then nothing would break but Life is not Perfect! However, I've had my Size A Herman Miller Aeron Chair for close to 30 years! The first one broke when my 6'4" cousin sat in mysmall size chair and leaned all the way back! Since it was within the 12 year warranty, Herman Miller immediately replaced my chair with a brain new chair and I've had it ever since! Knock on wood, not one problem and I use it everyday for long periods of time. I have a bad back and spend a lot of time in this chair doing computer graphics and I couldn't be more pleased ! I couldn't walk away so easily and freely if I spent that much time in any other chair. That's my experience!
Congratulations, you took the obvious bait.
@@VndNvwYvvSvvjust read the original post and I’m so embarrassed 🤗
Air movement remark. was briliant :) great video
Aeron chair is the only chair I can game for 14 hours without back pain. 😅😅😅
I got mine used from a company that sells chairs from movie props.
I have a bad hip and the Aeron is way better than 95% of other chairs.
I went to try it in a showroom and I really disliked it. My back literally never felt relaxed from the moment I sat on it. Neither size A or size B helped. Embody is much more ergonomic.
That could be due to bad posture on your part. If you're not used to sitting upright the lumbar support really hurts at the start. You'll get used to it within a week though and it's so much better for you. I work at the PC a lot and started to get shoulder issues, after buying my Aeron they went away just as quick as I got used to the posture.
If you'd like less firm mesh - chose size C instead of B.
Thumbs up clicked at 3:47
I hate this garbage chair it gave pain in my lower back
seriously?
Yes many people hates Aeron for this reason a chair like embody will be better for low back
@@alostcatembody was AWFUL for my lower back, no chair has ever given me worse lower back pain than the embody lol
@@Ryantagcoffee daym everyone has different skeletal system
@@alostcat never denied that, but the thing really poked into my back lol could not understand why people like it
What an amazing video, thank you!
I can't stand this chair 😭 I had to use them at jobs for years. I feel like I am deadlifting for 8 hours straight. I have very naturally good posture, and I feel like I have zero support.
Fart part was unexpected 😮
The aeron kicks the shit out of the plastic noisy embody I have in my office and will be returning. Will be getting my aeron back and will never look at another chair.
I’m very short, 5.6 feet,which chair should I pick, Aeron or sayl?
You are not that small. I am 5.6 and I love my Aeron B. But I recommend you find a place to try the A and B. I do not recommend the Sayl, compared to the Aeron it feels cheap
This is good advise. The Sayl is definitely a step down in quality from the Aeron but it is well-suited for shorter people. Personally I would still choose the Aeron over the Sayl. - RG
I am 5’5 and the B felt too small. The arm rests did not come up high enough. And when I tried it with the atlas headrest, I just couldn’t get it hitting the right spot. I would love to try an A to see if I’d have the same problem, but it’s kind of expensive experiment.
geezes... thanks for the video - this completely put me off this overpriced piece of plastic.
Reason #11: Off gassing chemicals.
???
Great review! Thanks, now I know it's not for me
Where was the trigger warning? 😂
Are you guys paid by the leap v2? Bogus.
Preferences. I don't like the aeron that much but still.
i’m 5’7 and can cross my leg on a B size
My job has a bunch if the Aeron chairs and tbh
they’re not that bad
I wouldn’t mind getting one refurbished, it’s comfy.
the new editions with the terrible back support are the bad ones tbh
the ones with the weird spine support, (the one shown in the video)
I just stick with the low lumbar support OG one (the best one imo & it doesn’t poke my back, unless you got a bad one that is messed up)
everyone here seems to support it
even the older people and taller people compared to me
a guy named Ron that’s 6’+ sits on this chair daily & seems to enjoy it
even the heavier set people around here
we use it to chill & lounge on downtime
I use an Aeron at work sometimes (shared office space), and love it for the most part, but like you (and basically everyone else) said, the hard sides of the seat are the only thing I don't care for. That and the fact that HM doesn't sell an OEM headrest version of this chair is absurd. What is it with HM and hating headrests? Lol.
Herman Miller's design philosophy is against headrests, as they believe you don't require one when tasking.
I don't understand headrests... It feels uncomfortable to me and why aren't you able to keep your head upright all day?! Because I play guitar I bought one without armrests and now I hate armrests as well. Just not needed if you set up your workspace correctly.
Reason 1: It last longer than you will ever live
There are a lot of other chairs that will last you longer and cost 1/4 price.
Like Kinnarps, they make chairs for companies for like 2000€ and after they retire they are refurbished and sold on outlet for like 400€
why so expensive ,
Partly build quality, the materials are fantastic. The other part is legacy and branding.
I just got my Aeron and it is the shittiest chair I had. My back is already in pain
How are you getting on now? Most people have such terrible postures that when they try an ergonomic chair they HATE it at first. But your body will thank you later.
@@stysner4580 it’s actually gotten better, for work. Its just that I need another chair to relax
how to stop the googling of the pole moving left right ?
??? Wat pole???
Amazing video!
I do love the air flow for farting. No joke. And I'm very warm bodied, so love it.
1:08 that is Randy!!! (cheapaudioman)
I see only one reason. I'm poor
Ikea Markus blows the HM outta the water
That's not true at all. That thing has way too much play, the build quality is not great and it takes effort to sit upright in it.
3:43
Such a click bate title haha
"5,2 wont fit in same chair as 6,2" uhm yeah thats how made to fit stuff works :D ever tried to share your wife pants or shoes?
Def the best fart chair.
I prefer feeling the rumble
Sorry but it's not Hayworth, it's Haworth. Where's the Y?
There are a lot of words in the English language that are not pronounced the exact way that they are written. A few examples would be: "knot", "island" or "vision". This also applies to brand names and Haworth falls into this category. -Ryan
You look like Ethan Klein if he wasn't ugly
Anyway thanks for the informative video
So he doesn't look like Ethan Klein. Ok.
PSA if you have testicles do not buy this chair
Eehhh... What? Are you very old, perchance?
It’s a terrible chair, turned down offers from friends for free ones many times. The Embody and Mirra are so much better if you want Steelcase.
...Embody and Mirra are also Herman Miller chairs. It's literally the most lauded chair in the world what are you on about...
Check HAG Capisco 8106 I like it much better..