Romulan: "Ah, so you're going to torture me for information!?" Starfleet: "Nothing so inhumane! We're going to.......clean you..... for information....." * hands on the sonic shower "Intensity" control *
This episode made me wonder why Green girl and Cyborg guy were so embarrassed to see each other naked pretending to be a honeymoon couple on the Ferengi planet. They're friends who shower together. That should not have been an issue.
I think the sonic shower pretty much covers all, so crewmates can't really see the things. Take out the shower and the body is displayed in its full anatomical glory.
It's Starfleet. The fact that they haven't already slept together is amazing enough. Especially since they both know their way around the Jeffries tubes.
There's supposed to be safety features to stop people getting killed on the holodeck, or the warp core exploding, too. The only time the safety features ever work is when the plot requires them to be deliberately over-ridden.
i think the problem is also how with different species in your crew, the frequencies might not be enough for them, so with biology all over the place, it's hard to set what is safe or not
To be fair, there probably are species which are OK with those levels or even need them. So maybe the default is to trust your good sense instead of having sensors and AI deciding if you can take it. Much like we do not try to prevent you from drowning people at your tub.
Sir, someone has locked out the sonic showers and encrypted the access codes! Oh, wait, we can just move 3 isolinear chips into different slots. Ok, everyone go back to showering.
But she didn't ask him for a privacy buffer, she said "this other guy I work with likes to have a privacy buffer so you should move even though he's not here and I personally didn't ask you for one."
I’m sure somebody with actual education could explain it better, but in layman’s terms, ultrasonic emitters make air molecules go brrrrr, which vibrates dirt and oil off your skin.
I mean based on the name, the shower seems to use sound waves in place of water. I imagine its some form of resonant frequency that causes impurities such as dirt and such to basically get shaken off of the user.
they're also theorized to be *hydrosonic* showers; meaning they actually do use a small amount of warm, soothing water in addition to frequency waves to gently remove impurities from your skin and pores while massaging the stiff and sore parts of your body at the same time. for other, water-intolerant species, other liquids can be substituted such as oils or chemicals.
The technology is called a 'sonic shower.' It uses sound waves to vibrate dirt and oils off the skin. It was first introduced in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, then later appeared in Voyager and Strange New Worlds (as well as being mentioned in other Trek series). The concept has even appeared in other franchises. There exists a less advanced version in real life: the 'ultrasonic cleaners' used by jewelers.
It's just a Star Trek thing. The franchise is supposed to take place so far in the future that most modern societal issues have been solved and there's no racial or gender divisions. Even back in the 90s run of Star Trek Generations it wasn't uncommon for there to be male extras walking around in dresses in some shots just to drive the point home. Similarly there was a conscious decision to not give Picard hair because nobody would judge a man for being bald in the setting even if it was far enough in the future that baldness could be completely cured if someone wanted.
@@Evan.13239 - while that might have been the canonical reason, the Doyalist (ie, out here in the real world) reason is that Patrick Stewart looked really dumb in a toupee/wig. (No, really - he had to wear it during his audition, and afterwards no one asked him to wear it again - Roddenberry in particular thought it looked bad.)
No, just in starfleet, since they're sort of the navy. Mind you that barely makes sense with how much better the accommodations are on a starfleet vessel as opposed to a real life submarine or ship.
@@TMHedgehog - My thought is that it's only the "lower deck" folks - ie, literally those that are sleeping in the ship/submarine-style beds, that have this... which is probably a good portion of the crew. While we normally see most of the main characters having their own quarters, they also tend to be on the upper echelons of the ship's command structure. The exception, of course, being this show. (I seem to recall some scenes in Voyager that showed Ensign Kim having shared sleeping arrangements, though.)
I like how sonic showers tastefully blur out body parts.
censoring starfleet engineers. can't have anything exposed
It's a convenient side effect
it helps that starfleet has holographic tech to blur it out IRL ( in universe ) :P
I'm guessing the producers wanted us viewers to use our imagination.
They also have censor bars in the show. But yeah they probably just went with the scenery censor trope
Now I want to see how the Terran Empire made their personal hygiene devices into sonic weapons/torture devices.
All I’m hearing is Mirror Universe Lower Decks episode..l
like a toothbrush, except the bristles are replaced with stiff metal
Now I wished this is in First Contact, Picard lures the Borg drones into the Sonic Shower Room and kill them by overpowering the setting 😂😂
They're tuned to Dubstep.
I love the way Tendi delivered that "nope" line.
Romulan: "Ah, so you're going to torture me for information!?"
Starfleet: "Nothing so inhumane! We're going to.......clean you..... for information....." * hands on the sonic shower "Intensity" control *
Sounds like some working for section 31
Really wish wed gotten more than the one episode of these two engaging with one another
For real
They would have fought in mortal Kombat with jet ....knocking mariner out
Yeah, I thought it would be fun for them to have a few episodes with the new four person dynamic.
This episode made me wonder why Green girl and Cyborg guy were so embarrassed to see each other naked pretending to be a honeymoon couple on the Ferengi planet. They're friends who shower together. That should not have been an issue.
I think the sonic shower pretty much covers all, so crewmates can't really see the things. Take out the shower and the body is displayed in its full anatomical glory.
Context.
As the old saying goes 'they made it weird'.
Context changed.
It's Starfleet. The fact that they haven't already slept together is amazing enough. Especially since they both know their way around the Jeffries tubes.
The Doctor uses these to hack computers, open doors and blow out power systems, these guys use it to shower.
Shouldn't there be a safety feature to stop the sonic showers from going that high?
This is Starfleet! Safety protocols can always be disengaged.
@@TheRobin53 And it's so easy to disengage them, one command and everything becomes deadly, very bad design
There's supposed to be safety features to stop people getting killed on the holodeck, or the warp core exploding, too. The only time the safety features ever work is when the plot requires them to be deliberately over-ridden.
i think the problem is also how with different species in your crew, the frequencies might not be enough for them, so with biology all over the place, it's hard to set what is safe or not
To be fair, there probably are species which are OK with those levels or even need them. So maybe the default is to trust your good sense instead of having sensors and AI deciding if you can take it. Much like we do not try to prevent you from drowning people at your tub.
so star trek and stership troopers have unisex shawer in common.
The more I think about this, the more I’m curious to try it. Just gotta wait a while…
Wouldn't be Starfleet if systems couldn't be tampered with to be dangerous and/or overclocked.
Sir, someone has locked out the sonic showers and encrypted the access codes! Oh, wait, we can just move 3 isolinear chips into different slots. Ok, everyone go back to showering.
If I guess, it's a cali class. The systems probably broken and noone has gotten around to fixing it yet.
God, I love that this show is canon.
This scene comes of as reference to the co-ed shower scene Starship Troopers!
I'll stick with water. I might not get as clean but at least I don't have to worry about going deaf
Or your internal organs rupturing. Sound is terrifying.
"I can do this all day!" - Apparently, Captain America is a rank in ST.
Everyone in this show just need to kiss and get it over with.
Impossible.
the entire Cerritos could marry itself and they will never get over whatever the fuck their whole deal is.
To the horny brig!
Man I like Chett but if someone asks for a privacy buffer in the communal shower you give it them.
But she didn't ask him for a privacy buffer, she said "this other guy I work with likes to have a privacy buffer so you should move even though he's not here and I personally didn't ask you for one."
She didn't take issue with the guy on her other side. She just didn't want someone taking Boimler's spot, even though I doubt Boimler would care.
So what happenes to Jet and Mariner then? Do they just pass out due to brain hemmorage from subsonic frequencies?
They should have been dead
....but REALLY clean!
Remember when this guy was a character
…you don’t want to go past the event horizon…that’s where the warp is…and you don’t want that…might end up in the 40k universe…FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
1:01 … She says as the sonic shower is slowly killing both of them.
It was at that moment that their teeth started shattering.
How many times did she almost put everyone in danger?!
Yes.
All of them.
Every episode
Do those devices not have safety protocols?
Sure. Same as the Holodecks.
Bro how does those even work for shower?
I’m sure somebody with actual education could explain it better, but in layman’s terms, ultrasonic emitters make air molecules go brrrrr, which vibrates dirt and oil off your skin.
@@ThaFriendsZone but not the scalps. Lol
I am curious how do teeth stay in your mouth after that.
Also doesn’t a microwave do the same thing to molecules of water to heat them up? :))
@@danhairno it passes “microwaves through your food, this is simply vibrations
I'm pretty sure I'm wrong but, it is more or less a mix of "hand dryer" and "sub-buffer".
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I have a question, how are they showing? I’m not really surprised they don’t have water but what do they use instead?
I mean based on the name, the shower seems to use sound waves in place of water. I imagine its some form of resonant frequency that causes impurities such as dirt and such to basically get shaken off of the user.
@@BlazeMakesGames interesting 🤔
Edit: honestly I didn’t know they were called sonic showers.
How does those showers work?
To quote the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry.
"They work very well."
They wiggle the dirt and other crap off of your skin with sound.
@@TMHedgehog and it is a tech we are sooort of looking into not for showers but for cleaning stuff in general that does not react well to water.
Sonically!
they're also theorized to be *hydrosonic* showers; meaning they actually do use a small amount of warm, soothing water in addition to frequency waves to gently remove impurities from your skin and pores while massaging the stiff and sore parts of your body at the same time.
for other, water-intolerant species, other liquids can be substituted such as oils or chemicals.
1:03 Marines looks like Salma Hayek here.
How the hell do the showers work without water?
Ps: i am curious
The technology is called a 'sonic shower.' It uses sound waves to vibrate dirt and oils off the skin. It was first introduced in Star Trek: The Motion Picture, then later appeared in Voyager and Strange New Worlds (as well as being mentioned in other Trek series). The concept has even appeared in other franchises. There exists a less advanced version in real life: the 'ultrasonic cleaners' used by jewelers.
@@legionaireb does that mean, the only reason one of them got a bloody nose was because of vibrations?
@@attilaabonyi8879Yep, the showers are literally vibrating them to (potential) death
Man, Rutherford needs to stop skipping leg day
I guess public nudity is a norm in the federation?
It's just a Star Trek thing. The franchise is supposed to take place so far in the future that most modern societal issues have been solved and there's no racial or gender divisions. Even back in the 90s run of Star Trek Generations it wasn't uncommon for there to be male extras walking around in dresses in some shots just to drive the point home.
Similarly there was a conscious decision to not give Picard hair because nobody would judge a man for being bald in the setting even if it was far enough in the future that baldness could be completely cured if someone wanted.
@@Evan.13239 - while that might have been the canonical reason, the Doyalist (ie, out here in the real world) reason is that Patrick Stewart looked really dumb in a toupee/wig. (No, really - he had to wear it during his audition, and afterwards no one asked him to wear it again - Roddenberry in particular thought it looked bad.)
No, just in starfleet, since they're sort of the navy.
Mind you that barely makes sense with how much better the accommodations are on a starfleet vessel as opposed to a real life submarine or ship.
@@TMHedgehog - My thought is that it's only the "lower deck" folks - ie, literally those that are sleeping in the ship/submarine-style beds, that have this... which is probably a good portion of the crew. While we normally see most of the main characters having their own quarters, they also tend to be on the upper echelons of the ship's command structure.
The exception, of course, being this show. (I seem to recall some scenes in Voyager that showed Ensign Kim having shared sleeping arrangements, though.)
I think it is because of the multi species thing, eventually people learned to don't care.
Is it me or does this show kinda remind me of Rick and Morty art style?
Why do these showers even have a setting that high?
It would be like a real-world shower having a setting that blasts your skin off.
The real question is why does the one panel control all the showers? It just seems like a bad design
So nudity is a problem?
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@@hobomike6935 So you go out in public nude?
Which episode?