I'm a big fan of the LiftingLarge "Crusher" sleeves, I have them for both knees and elbows. They're very comfortable and I like the increased support they give. I used to wear the classic Rehbands but as my legs grew they wouldn't stay in place.
Owned the all black SBD sleeves from last years winter release and the fabric is tearing apart from the stitching on the inside after about 9 months of using them 3 times per week. Definitely love the sleeves but sucks to know that they used to be made much better and that you can’t even buy the all black version anymore
You helped me pick the Stoic sleeves in the past and they are great. I turn them a little so the seam is just to the outside of the back part of my leg. I found it bunches on the seam a bit and bugs me. Still very happy with them. I'm looking for a new pair of elbow sleeves tho. My STrong ones are breaking down like you mentioned with the knees. And, you have finally talked me into getting an A7 shirt. Thanks again dude.
The Stoic elbow sleeves are very similar to their knee sleeves. Nice b/c they actually use a thinner neoprene on the inside of the arm and a thicker on the outside to allow for them to get on a bit easier.
@@BasementBrandon That's great to know and a concern of mine. I wish they did sponsor you, I would make sure they know you sent me. Does A7? I will buy through your link or however it works.
I've only ever owned the SBD ones, but theyre going in to their fourth year (3-6x per week) now with no ripping, no seams coming undone, and no real proof of age other than the ungodly stench that won't go away no matter how much I wash them.
David have you tried boiling them? Boiling them then letting them cool down with some added dish soap does wonders. Even got out dog piss when my dog peed on them....
Same. Only reason I need to buy new sleeves to replace my SBDs are because I've lost weight and now they're too loose. The sleeves themselves look exactly the same as when I bought them a few years ago.
David I don’t have much issue with smell on any of my sleeves until it starts getting hot. Luckily the NE doesn’t get that bad in summer for the most part.
Mine are going on 6 years of use and had I not used them to protect my shins during deadlifts I don’t think anyone would know that they’re old. The logo on the front says “S D” lol. Other than that, if I ever have to buy another sleeve def buying SBD again!
@@BasementBrandon what is it that you don’t like above the Rheband sleeves? I’m looking at picking up my first pair for recreational lifting (but heavy DL/Squats) so doesn’t need to meet any PL federation requirements.
I've had SBD sleeves, and titan yellow jackets, personally I find the yellow jackets much easier to get on because of the lack of taper and the different material they use, they're slightly cheaper too but it isn't much. I like the sublimated pairs they release, and when it comes to actual performance in the lifts they're identical
Just did my first session with the SBD sleeves and I absolutely love them. Damn what a big difference compared to those old cheap sleeves I got of amazon and been using for probably 3-4 years. I struggled with 160kg squat 3x5 in training which I did with ease with the SBD sleeves. Damn great support, looks good and seems to be good quality. Recommend buying them I got mine for around 70€.
I think at the end of the day, longevity is all that matters and paying a premium is worth it with SBD sleeves. Trying not to regret my purchase, because Stoic ones look pretty cool haha
I own SBD's, Elitefts Heavy Duty's and Stoic's. Stoic is by far my favorite. They are kindly stretchy so I can size down considerably. My SBD's are XL, but I can wear Medium Stoic's for competition for (train in Large).
What’s the size of your knee joint and calf, mines 39/40 for both Large felt too tight for me, so I’m getting XLs now. I don’t know how tight they should be as first time using however it was hard to get them past calf’s (the larges) and felt so tight when on I could barely walk
Do you notice more skin irritation from the seams between those sleeves? I've had Strong elbow sleeves that I had to return because of the prominent seams that left unsightly red marks on my arms.
I measure at 14 inches for my knee cap. 35 cm. I would fit a small. I’ve heard they run larger than other brands but this would be my first pair and I’m not sure. Would a XS be too small for me?
I have genetic issues with my knees. To give you an idea, I wear SBD knee sleeves to get through a shift at my warehouse job. The best knee sleeves I have found for support during training are the Inzer XT sleeves. I can train legs heavy because of them.
I hate how much I agree with you old man! Haha! Every point you made is spot on except for the A& sleeves cause I don't have any personal experience with those so I can't put my two cents in. My Stoics are def my favorite and I wish I bought more pairs initially when they came out and weren't popular cause it was like $40!
They are very similar, that’s true but realistically, what would be an original design concept for a knee sleeve? There’s not a whole lot you can do with it
My large SBD were like springs for my knees. After 2 years and losing 70lbs, I decided to go with medium STrong, just for something different. They're less springy and feel about the same as my old SBD. I'll be looking at some new SBD at some point in the future, maybe. I still have 10 minutes of the video left to watch yet!
Yea.. I recently bought the SBD sleeves, 6 months ago, and the right knee sleeve already has a small hole.......... but they are better than the rehbands for knee support. In your experience, do the Stoic offer better support and rebound than the SBD sleeves?
@@BasementBrandon Thanks bro for being so professional. You are the only one who responds to all my comments and that shows the kind of person you are... keep it up...
@@BasementBrandon Thanks! No one really talks about Rogue knee sleeves. I bought a belt from them and it was really good quality (my only belt so I can't compare it to anything else). I trust them in making good quality knee sleeves but I just wanted to hear what you thought. Great content and advice as always.
With the knee sleeves, do you ever find that they start to wear down after a certain amount of time (in terms of the neoprene stretches out and it's not providing the support as much)? Like do you find that every couple years (just as an example) you kinda need to buy a new pair just due to the nature of the use of them. I understand the point that some last longer than others but my question is more just when do you usually see the neoprene wearing down and when you buy a new pair. Maybe that doesn't make any sense! haha
That's tough for me to say b/c I tend to rotate through a few pairs and haven't really had that issue. I will say that when I wash and dry them (in dryer) they do feel more supportive the first few wears.
I agree with you brandon. I own a couple of slingshot prodcuts ( hip circle,wrist wraps, knee sleeves). All ive owned for maybe a little more than 1 year and put them to good use. Unforutantely they are all falling apart. On the other hand ive owned my SBD knee sleeves since 2014 with no issues, I also own their elbow sleeves bought those last year and still look brand new( i use them alot).
Brandon Campbell Diamond No problem Thank you for all the home gym content! Also reading thru the comments it seems to be a common problem with slingshot.
I thought the idea of the SBD sleeves being lower in quality now was overblown until I actually bought new SBDs to replace my old ones. Within 5 months they were torn on the inside and showed more wear and tear than my 5 year old pair.
How many pounds do you feel sleeves really add to your squat? If you had to give up either sleeves, shoes or a belt, I assume you’d give up sleeves first.
it's tough to say, it def adds some IMO, but how much would just be a guess. Personally I'd give up shoes at this point as I don't find they make that much of a difference for me.
More about comfort than lbs and takes longer to warmup without sleeves and my knees feel creaky. Depends on if have achy knees if do will help more... Too many factors fit, weights being used... 10 to 20 lbs id say ballpark.
Gangsta sleeves are no good for me. Mine broke down in a few weeks. Had creases and folds on them. I will admit the first time I ever put them on they felt amazing. Never buying strong again. Even the gangsta wrist wraps were bad as well, the way they are designed is terrible.
Why didn't you compare the extreme X sleeves? They are denim and the stiffest of all knee sleeves. They provide incredible rebound. Compared to the SBD... napkins.
@@master_59kg ive been soley using them for ages and they are so stiff, i always sit with my legs straight because its to tight and uncomfortable to keep your knee bent for so long
The original Strong sleeves were super good except for the stitching on them. The V2 has better stitching but it definitely seems like they're using a way cheaper neoprene now that doesn't last as long. In fact, I've noticed the drop in quality on a lot of Mark Bells products. The Gangsta sleeves(although not meet legal) are really really good though!
I have the slingshot x sleeves and they are insanely supportive. The whole sleeve is like a jean material that has like no stretch so putting them on is harder but the support is unreal
@@master_59kg I'm pretty sure they only took out the grip stuff on the inside to make it ipf approved. Seems like the consensus is not good on these sleeves, maybe I'll have to try the stoics then.
@@BasementBrandon can totally agree, there was just something about the first generation strong sleeves, but since then they have fallen apart quite quick and they have lowered their replacement policy to 6 months
Man I was literally just talking about knee sleeves in the gym to a buddy 5 minutes ago about which ones I should go with and this video pops up on my feed as 1st video that is wicked scary as always love you man keep the great work going
You probably won’t reply to this since this video is 2 years old, after watching your video I would like to know where the Titan Yellow Jackets fit into the picture? Stoic sadly aren’t available in AUS and the shipping to get it from USA costs and arm and a leg 😅
I think I have a review on those from a few years ago. I wasn't really a fan. They're a bit boxy. Might be good if you have extremely large legs, knees, calves, but otherwise other sleeves are better. I might suggest looking into the Iron Tanks sleeves, I found them to be quite nice.
I had a pair of Strong elbow sleeves that I ended up returning. The material got scratch marks and wrinkles easily. Also, the seams irritated my skin leaving ugly ass red marks all over my arms.
I love the stoic knee sleeves, but the stitching tears up/irritates the back of my knee. The rubber adhesives do the same thing as well.. Anyone else with the same issue or ways to avoid this?
Hey Brandon been a fan since day one and you’ve driven me to peruse strength and competing so thank you for that! Would love to know your thoughts on slingshot want to invest in one but I’m from uk looking at mark bells and the strengthshop versions would like some advice thank you.
I've owned one for about 6-7 years, and have used it probably 4-5 times. I don't find a place for it in my training, so I'd be hesitant to recommend one.
I have some of the original 7mm blue Rehband. I've had mine for 10-12 years. If you can find them (Jackal's Gym) buy them. Rehband was always a trusted brand of the World's Strongest Man competitors for years. Just my opinion.
Mark Bell X-treme sleeves are the worse! Broke after two weeks of use, they did not refund my money but gave a gift card for more of their products, so I end up with wrist wraps I did not need. Few of my friends also spent their money on the same sleeves with same results!
I own a couple pairs of strong sleeves. The thing I don't like is they get wrinkly or creases. So all the material is not in contact with my skin. I've held a pair of stoics in my hand and they feel thicker and more foamy. So I'm thinking maybe I wouldn't have the same problem. With that said, I'm hesitant to buy another pair of sleeves because I never felt like I got anything out of them so it's rare that I'll put them on outside of a competition.
I still have the og sbd the first gen per se. accumulated all the stankkkkkk. The 2nd gen was garbage- the cloth was falling off. The 3rd gen titans are almost like strong sleeves.
I like SBD because they never smell bad. I also have Strong Sleeves and Strength Shop sleeves but after a while they start to smell bad after a workout.
Are you familiar with the EVOLUTIONIZE knee sleeves ? I got a pair and it’s the first generation stoic sleeves. I was wondering if it’s an exact copy as the stoic sleeves since I was planning on getting them to compete in. Though I wasn’t so happy with them since I didn’t really feel much support.
This is going to vary, but I just throw mine in with my normal wash as needed. I would be careful doing this if you run a hard cycle and your machines eat your clothes.
I had strong sleeves and I accidentally ruined them by washing them in a sink with hot water and detergent. The neoprene got destroyed. I’ve since ordered stoic, pumped to try them
If I wear a small in sbd Should I get extra small in stoics or XX small? I see a lot of people say you can down size a bit with them and give them the og Sbd feel!
SBD isn't really priced that much higher. Especially when it comes to quality and longevity, along with being approved by every federation. In reality, I bought them being I tried buying Stoic through their mobile site and it couldn't be navigated and everything loaded at the wrong points on the screen. I decided if a company can't figure out how to hire someone for web design, their quality elsewhere probably suffers too.
Hi. I do muay thai and need a knee support. Can you please tell me if a sleeve is what I'm looking for, or if there's a product that is more flexible but still supportive.
I havea pair of their Extreme Knee Sleeve, so the one with the elastic straps. I compete in strongman and have found them nicer for moving events than squats. They're just as long as Rehband 7mm so if you're a fan of longer sleeves its a difference. Not sure what the other sleeve lengths are but I'd assum just as long as the Extreme. He does offer a 9mm sleeve though
I have been using Iron Rebel sleeves and wrist wraps lately. How do you think they compare with the ones you reviewed ? Personally I'm like you, I don't want to use SBD's just because EVERYONE seems to be using them. Also, SBD's are a PITA to get on. ( in my opinion ).
@@Pler1978 Thanks for the information about Iron Rebell. I was just researching them and Gymreaper. It appears I should just save my money and buy Stoic and SBD for my 1st knee sleeves
![Testing Out the New SBD Knee Sleeves [12 weeks out]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/n97eCiZ7Clw/mqdefault.jpg)
"Which is great for someone with small calves and small quads" Oh......
Life is rough for us tall boys
MiniatureActionJesus size lanky
He lost me with that too. #teamfatguyhugecalves
Extra extra small daa
@@murphpawz I have big calves & thighs too, so I guess no stoics for me then 😂
Brandon made it through that whole "length, width and thickness..." sentence without a single innuendo. A little disappointing.
I blacked out, not sure what happened.
To many Ammonia caps . !
👀
I'm a big fan of the LiftingLarge "Crusher" sleeves, I have them for both knees and elbows. They're very comfortable and I like the increased support they give. I used to wear the classic Rehbands but as my legs grew they wouldn't stay in place.
Right on
Owned the all black SBD sleeves from last years winter release and the fabric is tearing apart from the stitching on the inside after about 9 months of using them 3 times per week. Definitely love the sleeves but sucks to know that they used to be made much better and that you can’t even buy the all black version anymore
The all blacks were prob my favorite SBD color. Pretty dumb they don’t offer the variety year round.
You helped me pick the Stoic sleeves in the past and they are great. I turn them a little so the seam is just to the outside of the back part of my leg. I found it bunches on the seam a bit and bugs me. Still very happy with them.
I'm looking for a new pair of elbow sleeves tho. My STrong ones are breaking down like you mentioned with the knees.
And, you have finally talked me into getting an A7 shirt. Thanks again dude.
The Stoic elbow sleeves are very similar to their knee sleeves. Nice b/c they actually use a thinner neoprene on the inside of the arm and a thicker on the outside to allow for them to get on a bit easier.
@@BasementBrandon That's great to know and a concern of mine. I wish they did sponsor you, I would make sure they know you sent me. Does A7? I will buy through your link or however it works.
@@crob2184 I used to have an a7 code for 10% off that wasn't an affiliate one, but they did away with all codes I believe.
Make it rain clip should be in TH-cam rewind 2019.
Should be buried in an archive to never be seen again.
@@BasementBrandon yo, you had me dying LMMFAO
Damn! That knee sleeve shower was straight *gangsta!!!*
You make enough crappy TH-cam videos and you’ll do just about anything
I've only ever owned the SBD ones, but theyre going in to their fourth year (3-6x per week) now with no ripping, no seams coming undone, and no real proof of age other than the ungodly stench that won't go away no matter how much I wash them.
David have you tried boiling them? Boiling them then letting them cool down with some added dish soap does wonders. Even got out dog piss when my dog peed on them....
Don’t wash em. Disinfect then with alcohol or disinfectant spray
Same. Only reason I need to buy new sleeves to replace my SBDs are because I've lost weight and now they're too loose. The sleeves themselves look exactly the same as when I bought them a few years ago.
David I don’t have much issue with smell on any of my sleeves until it starts getting hot. Luckily the NE doesn’t get that bad in summer for the most part.
Mine are going on 6 years of use and had I not used them to protect my shins during deadlifts I don’t think anyone would know that they’re old. The logo on the front says “S D” lol. Other than that, if I ever have to buy another sleeve def buying SBD again!
I’m a recreational lifter and I’ve been satisfied with my Rehbands.
Nice man
@@BasementBrandon what is it that you don’t like above the Rheband sleeves? I’m looking at picking up my first pair for recreational lifting (but heavy DL/Squats) so doesn’t need to meet any PL federation requirements.
@@carlosgato7491 They have the least amount of leg coverage compared to PL specific sleeves. I see them more as a cross training use case.
I've had SBD sleeves, and titan yellow jackets, personally I find the yellow jackets much easier to get on because of the lack of taper and the different material they use, they're slightly cheaper too but it isn't much. I like the sublimated pairs they release, and when it comes to actual performance in the lifts they're identical
In my opinion if sleeves are easy to get on they’re prob too big :)
I agree on mark bells gear. Own a lot of his stuff and it's all worn out. Pioneer, titan, sbd have all held up well over time
Seems they are the opposite of most other products where you avoid the gen 1 stuff, his gen 1 stuff is always better!
Yes I’ve owned the STrong sleeves and the X Sleeves. The material inside started coming loose after maybe 4 months of training in them.
Just did my first session with the SBD sleeves and I absolutely love them. Damn what a big difference compared to those old cheap sleeves I got of amazon and been using for probably 3-4 years. I struggled with 160kg squat 3x5 in training which I did with ease with the SBD sleeves. Damn great support, looks good and seems to be good quality. Recommend buying them I got mine for around 70€.
Appreciate the insight!
60 dollars for the Stoic? I remember them being around 35 or so.... shame there is no European reseller still. So still SBD for me.
Yep, prices creeping up, especially with the IPF approval cost.
Very thorough and constructive review, thanks for the info as always.
Glad it was helpful!
I think at the end of the day, longevity is all that matters and paying a premium is worth it with SBD sleeves. Trying not to regret my purchase, because Stoic ones look pretty cool haha
Fair enough!
I've had my blue 7mm Rehbands for years. Great warmth and ok compression (if I needed max compression I could use wraps). No rips or tears. Love them.
Nice!!
I own SBD's, Elitefts Heavy Duty's and Stoic's. Stoic is by far my favorite. They are kindly stretchy so I can size down considerably. My SBD's are XL, but I can wear Medium Stoic's for competition for (train in Large).
Appreciate the confirmation!!
What’s the size of your knee joint and calf, mines 39/40 for both Large felt too tight for me, so I’m getting XLs now. I don’t know how tight they should be as first time using however it was hard to get them past calf’s (the larges) and felt so tight when on I could barely walk
Do the Stoics stretch out over time or do they barely stretch out like SBDs?
Do you notice more skin irritation from the seams between those sleeves? I've had Strong elbow sleeves that I had to return because of the prominent seams that left unsightly red marks on my arms.
@@jzen1455 they do stretch considerably over time
I measure at 14 inches for my knee cap. 35 cm. I would fit a small. I’ve heard they run larger than other brands but this would be my first pair and I’m not sure. Would a XS be too small for me?
Most people size down to get the tightest fit. I guess it depends what you're going for!
Awesome! Thank you! I’m going to order them from Amazon. Should have them Wednesday. I’ll let ya know how they are lol
What another freaking knee sleeve video, wtf?!.... ok let’s check it out *click*
Lol I haven't made one in a long time!
Geez- that is some good squatting- impressive. Nice range of motion, smooth lift.
Much appreciated!
I completely agree with you about the strong knee sleeves ... I’m going to trust your judgment on the stoic sleeves let’s see how it plays out
Let me know
jesus christ dude, ive almost choked myself seeing 0:21
:)
Thanks For the video Brandon! You help a lot with those gear reviews and comparisons.
I waste money so you don’t have to lol
I have genetic issues with my knees. To give you an idea, I wear SBD knee sleeves to get through a shift at my warehouse job. The best knee sleeves I have found for support during training are the Inzer XT sleeves. I can train legs heavy because of them.
appreciate the feedback!
Very nice feedback
I hate how much I agree with you old man! Haha! Every point you made is spot on except for the A& sleeves cause I don't have any personal experience with those so I can't put my two cents in. My Stoics are def my favorite and I wish I bought more pairs initially when they came out and weren't popular cause it was like $40!
Hah that IPF approval ain't cheap!
I wear a pair of Tuff Wraps knee sleeves, love them. Ever tried out their gear?
Yes, they just clone other sleeve designs (like yellow jacket, rehband, and strong).
They are very similar, that’s true but realistically, what would be an original design concept for a knee sleeve? There’s not a whole lot you can do with it
I don’t know how you’d try to rock a small in SBD I’m exploding out of my mediums right now lol
jooicy
My large SBD were like springs for my knees. After 2 years and losing 70lbs, I decided to go with medium STrong, just for something different.
They're less springy and feel about the same as my old SBD.
I'll be looking at some new SBD at some point in the future, maybe. I still have 10 minutes of the video left to watch yet!
Bruh, i can only just get the XL on
Can you make a video on the best wrist wraps as well? Thanks! :)
I don't have as strong of an opinion when it comes to them, but I'll think about it!
EliteFTS and Strong House worth exploring.
I liked the strong house ones but didn’t find them much different than my strong.
Yea.. I recently bought the SBD sleeves, 6 months ago, and the right knee sleeve already has a small hole.......... but they are better than the rehbands for knee support.
In your experience, do the Stoic offer better support and rebound than the SBD sleeves?
I think it depends on how you size, personally I feel my Stoics give me the same if not greater than other brands.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks bro for being so professional. You are the only one who responds to all my comments and that shows the kind of person you are... keep it up...
Mario LP no problem! Good luck!
How did you put a hole in them? That cant just be from normal use
@@getstrongby4038 It's a small tear, one day I was just forcing it up to my knee and it tore... simply as that..
Thank you for another excellent video! Do you have an opinion about Rogue knee sleeves?
IIRC correctly they're basically rehbands.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks! No one really talks about Rogue knee sleeves. I bought a belt from them and it was really good quality (my only belt so I can't compare it to anything else). I trust them in making good quality knee sleeves but I just wanted to hear what you thought. Great content and advice as always.
With the knee sleeves, do you ever find that they start to wear down after a certain amount of time (in terms of the neoprene stretches out and it's not providing the support as much)? Like do you find that every couple years (just as an example) you kinda need to buy a new pair just due to the nature of the use of them. I understand the point that some last longer than others but my question is more just when do you usually see the neoprene wearing down and when you buy a new pair. Maybe that doesn't make any sense! haha
That's tough for me to say b/c I tend to rotate through a few pairs and haven't really had that issue. I will say that when I wash and dry them (in dryer) they do feel more supportive the first few wears.
"If you're in the SPF..." can't believe you didn't bust out laughing
Have to cover all my bases
I agree with you brandon. I own a couple of slingshot prodcuts ( hip circle,wrist wraps, knee sleeves). All ive owned for maybe a little more than 1 year and put them to good use. Unforutantely they are all falling apart. On the other hand ive owned my SBD knee sleeves since 2014 with no issues, I also own their elbow sleeves bought those last year and still look brand new( i use them alot).
Appreciate the confirmation!
Brandon Campbell Diamond No problem Thank you for all the home gym content! Also reading thru the comments it seems to be a common problem with slingshot.
My knee measures out at 37 cm, which would make me a medium. Would you still recommend sizing down if I'm just going for an everyday fit?
Prob not in that case!
How the hell do you fit into a small stoics?! Insane.
Small legs :)
Jamal Browner does too I believe
Why the effort to be cute? It’s about build quality / longevity
I'm not sure I understand your point.
I thought the idea of the SBD sleeves being lower in quality now was overblown until I actually bought new SBDs to replace my old ones. Within 5 months they were torn on the inside and showed more wear and tear than my 5 year old pair.
Damn
That' a bummer. I suppose their popularity played a role in the drop in quality?
How many pounds do you feel sleeves really add to your squat? If you had to give up either sleeves, shoes or a belt, I assume you’d give up sleeves first.
it's tough to say, it def adds some IMO, but how much would just be a guess. Personally I'd give up shoes at this point as I don't find they make that much of a difference for me.
More about comfort than lbs and takes longer to warmup without sleeves and my knees feel creaky. Depends on if have achy knees if do will help more... Too many factors fit, weights being used... 10 to 20 lbs id say ballpark.
Gangsta sleeves are no good for me. Mine broke down in a few weeks. Had creases and folds on them. I will admit the first time I ever put them on they felt amazing. Never buying strong again. Even the gangsta wrist wraps were bad as well, the way they are designed is terrible.
Yeah unfortunately the quality is really hit or miss.
Why didn't you compare the extreme X sleeves? They are denim and the stiffest of all knee sleeves. They provide incredible rebound. Compared to the SBD... napkins.
I don't consider them better than what I showed here.
@@BasementBrandon but they add more Kgs than any other sleeve don't they
@@mprovin7320 no, just a gimmick.
@@BasementBrandon damn I defo don't think so.
@@master_59kg ive been soley using them for ages and they are so stiff, i always sit with my legs straight because its to tight and uncomfortable to keep your knee bent for so long
The original Strong sleeves were super good except for the stitching on them. The V2 has better stitching but it definitely seems like they're using a way cheaper neoprene now that doesn't last as long. In fact, I've noticed the drop in quality on a lot of Mark Bells products. The Gangsta sleeves(although not meet legal) are really really good though!
Maybe b/c they're still in their first gen iteration lol
I have the slingshot x sleeves and they are insanely supportive. The whole sleeve is like a jean material that has like no stretch so putting them on is harder but the support is unreal
I wasn't a big fan personally.
@@master_59kg I'm pretty sure they only took out the grip stuff on the inside to make it ipf approved. Seems like the consensus is not good on these sleeves, maybe I'll have to try the stoics then.
What about Cerberus strength products ?
Have used their bars, but not sleeves.
*Mark Bell wants to know your location*
He has my number he can call me if he wants. :)
Thanks for saving me money yet again!
Hope it helped.
I'm with you on the Strong Sleeves. My first pair was amazing. Second pair fit like a sock, lol.
Glad to hear it wasn't just me!
@@BasementBrandon can totally agree, there was just something about the first generation strong sleeves, but since then they have fallen apart quite quick and they have lowered their replacement policy to 6 months
you said you weren’t a fan of the rehbands. any reason why?
They tend to be thinner and shorter, so they don't offer as much compression.
LOL! Make it rain!
:)
Soooo Rehband is not good for powerlifting?
Not if you're looking for the most supportive legal sleeve.
Man I was literally just talking about knee sleeves in the gym to a buddy 5 minutes ago about which ones I should go with and this video pops up on my feed as 1st video that is wicked scary as always love you man keep the great work going
Haha phone is always listening!
@@BasementBrandon ha ha ha damn big brother is always listening.
Can you please review gymreapers
If I get my hands on some.
I have had the Stoic ones for 2 years and love them. Only issue I see is the price has gone way up. I paid $35 after a coupon I got from Stoic.
Yeah I think that IPF approval made them raise the prices some!
Hey Brandon I got some Cerberus gear. High quality stuff, might be worth the review on your end.
Right on, they sound familiar.
Hey Brandon, have you had any experience with Stoic belts? Their lever belt looks promising.
Have not used personally!
TLDR: Inzer Ergopro
Not necessarily.
Have you ever tried Metal knee sleeves?
have not.
I love my Spud Inc sleeves.
Nice!
That sleeve shower scene was a gift from the gods
I'm just glad it's from an older video that doesn't get many views anymore.
Thanks youtube for super retro recommendations hahah! Happy birthday to basement Brandon’s sons!!
appreciated!!
Gymreapers!
yea?
You probably won’t reply to this since this video is 2 years old, after watching your video I would like to know where the Titan Yellow Jackets fit into the picture? Stoic sadly aren’t available in AUS and the shipping to get it from USA costs and arm and a leg 😅
I think I have a review on those from a few years ago. I wasn't really a fan. They're a bit boxy. Might be good if you have extremely large legs, knees, calves, but otherwise other sleeves are better. I might suggest looking into the Iron Tanks sleeves, I found them to be quite nice.
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I had a pair of Strong elbow sleeves that I ended up returning. The material got scratch marks and wrinkles easily. Also, the seams irritated my skin leaving ugly ass red marks all over my arms.
Yes I haven’t seen a lot of luck with their build quality.
How to wash knee sleeve(including wrist wrap)? Can I put them in a washing machine or I have to wash it by hand?
I put mine in the washer/dryer without issue. However if your washer/dryer usually eats your clothes, I'd be careful.
I love the stoic knee sleeves, but the stitching tears up/irritates the back of my knee. The rubber adhesives do the same thing as well.. Anyone else with the same issue or ways to avoid this?
For the stitching you could always wear them so they are on the side, but that won't help with the rubber grips.
Purchased using your coupon code. I'll report in and let you know how they were. Just retired my four year old Rehbands
Let me know!
Idk what it is SBD like hurt my knees actually they like push my knees in idk
Hmm interesting to hear!
you mention you wear a size small Stoic- is that one or two sizes down from what you measure for?
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Hey Brandon been a fan since day one and you’ve driven me to peruse strength and competing so thank you for that!
Would love to know your thoughts on slingshot want to invest in one but I’m from uk looking at mark bells and the strengthshop versions would like some advice thank you.
I've owned one for about 6-7 years, and have used it probably 4-5 times. I don't find a place for it in my training, so I'd be hesitant to recommend one.
I have some of the original 7mm blue Rehband. I've had mine for 10-12 years. If you can find them (Jackal's Gym) buy them. Rehband was always a trusted brand of the World's Strongest Man competitors for years. Just my opinion.
I have those as well, but find for powerlifting there are better sleeves.
Mark Bell X-treme sleeves are the worse! Broke after two weeks of use, they did not refund my money but gave a gift card for more of their products, so I end up with wrist wraps I did not need. Few of my friends also spent their money on the same sleeves with same results!
ah man, sorry to hear!
Which is better fo lifting more weight, or wich is more rigid, sbd or stoic ??
They're all great for training purposes. They all serve the same basic function if sized correctly
I currently own a pair of mava sleeves and they seem to do the trick, but are the stoic sleeves versatile? Can you do dumbbell lunges with them?
Depends on how you size them. if you size them as tight as possible to get the most out of a squat, they'll be more difficult to do lunges in.
Almost didn't watch because I just bought knee sleeves on black friday
Haha right on
I got a Stoic pair after squatting 295 lbs for reps
Nice! Hope you enjoy them.
I own a couple pairs of strong sleeves. The thing I don't like is they get wrinkly or creases. So all the material is not in contact with my skin. I've held a pair of stoics in my hand and they feel thicker and more foamy. So I'm thinking maybe I wouldn't have the same problem. With that said, I'm hesitant to buy another pair of sleeves because I never felt like I got anything out of them so it's rare that I'll put them on outside of a competition.
Gotcha!
That was an epic sleeve shower hahahaha
Thirsty for views.
i like Gymreapers. i bought their Knee and elbow sleeves and certainly get the job done and much cheaper!
Haven't used those
The blue rehbands are still the best sleeve for training. You can do many sets, get warm, them put wraps on
I think they’re better suited for more recreational training than powerlifting personally
@@BasementBrandon - maybe but the two Swedish brands- Rehband and Eleiko- are without a doubt the most common in weightlifting!:)
I still have the og sbd the first gen per se. accumulated all the stankkkkkk. The 2nd gen was garbage- the cloth was falling off. The 3rd gen titans are almost like strong sleeves.
appreciate the insight!
Like wtf do you do for a living? Do you sell drugs or something?
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I like SBD because they never smell bad. I also have Strong Sleeves and Strength Shop sleeves but after a while they start to smell bad after a workout.
I think you might be in the minority there, most people tell me their SBDs smell like a bag of doritos lol
Are you familiar with the EVOLUTIONIZE knee sleeves ? I got a pair and it’s the first generation stoic sleeves. I was wondering if it’s an exact copy as the stoic sleeves since I was planning on getting them to compete in. Though I wasn’t so happy with them since I didn’t really feel much support.
Familiar by name, but never had a chance to use them!
Hey Brandon, if you were picking a sleeve just for competition day would it still be stoic?
For me, yes.
What is your suggested method for washing and drying neoprene knee sleeves?
This is going to vary, but I just throw mine in with my normal wash as needed. I would be careful doing this if you run a hard cycle and your machines eat your clothes.
So they don't come apart inside like the ST do? I've owned a ST pair for about a year and they're "bubbly" inside.
Mine are still looking new after about 2 years.
Team small-legs checking in! The struggle is real. 😓
My legs are massive, just my humongous upper body makes them look small...
@@BasementBrandon LOL! That is now my story too...
Loved the opening. Very cool.
Thanks!
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yeah?
@@BasementBrandon they're good
I had strong sleeves and I accidentally ruined them by washing them in a sink with hot water and detergent. The neoprene got destroyed. I’ve since ordered stoic, pumped to try them
Curious to hear your thoughts.
If I wear a small in sbd Should I get extra small in stoics or XX small? I see a lot of people say you can down size a bit with them and give them the og Sbd feel!
They do have a good return policy, I would measure and take that into consideration, it might just be their sizing.
Okay B.B. time to take the plunge and review those Inzer Ergo Pros!
Haha I just can't wrap my mind around paying almost 2x more for them.
@@BasementBrandondamnit my gear whoring devil on my shoulder is gonna make me do it
SBD isn't really priced that much higher. Especially when it comes to quality and longevity, along with being approved by every federation.
In reality, I bought them being I tried buying Stoic through their mobile site and it couldn't be navigated and everything loaded at the wrong points on the screen. I decided if a company can't figure out how to hire someone for web design, their quality elsewhere probably suffers too.
I just tried and it was super simple and worked fine.
Stoic knee sleeves are for real great
Glad to hear!
Hi. I do muay thai and need a knee support. Can you please tell me if a sleeve is what I'm looking for, or if there's a product that is more flexible but still supportive.
This is prob too thick
@@BasementBrandon thankyou
Can u try evolution athletic ones from Brian shaws plz they are amazing
If I get my hands on some!
I havea pair of their Extreme Knee Sleeve, so the one with the elastic straps. I compete in strongman and have found them nicer for moving events than squats. They're just as long as Rehband 7mm so if you're a fan of longer sleeves its a difference. Not sure what the other sleeve lengths are but I'd assum just as long as the Extreme. He does offer a 9mm sleeve though
I am torn between SBD and Stoic. This video did not make my choice any easier... perhaps it’s time to purchase both in full Brandon Campbell fashion.
Both are very good, but Stoics win for me b/c they're about 25% cheaper.
Hows that white powder coat on your rack (not that rack) ?
It's held up very well. Maybe I'll do a video on it after a year.
I have been using Iron Rebel sleeves and wrist wraps lately. How do you think they compare with the ones you reviewed ? Personally I'm like you, I don't want to use SBD's just because EVERYONE seems to be using them. Also, SBD's are a PITA to get on. ( in my opinion ).
I have heard good things, but they're one of the few I haven't used. I will say I think Kevin Oak used them for a long time but now he is in Stoics :)
@@Pler1978 Thanks for the information about Iron Rebell. I was just researching them and Gymreaper. It appears I should just save my money and buy Stoic and SBD for my 1st knee sleeves