Picking Plates - The Best Weights For Most People
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ค. 2019
- What is your ideal plate? Chances are most people think of Ivanko or York. In this episode of picking plates we take a look at what I think are the best plates for most people. Machined plates not offer a great quality plate, they do so often times at a value that's affordable.
Make sure you check out the other videos in this series!
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What about ceramic plates? I find it hard to eat on these plates cause my food keeps falling through the middle
Don't do well with drops.
Ahhh yesss. The times when we were able to choose. A time when stock was available 😂
Right?!
Nobody:
Brandon: I like to spend money
I'm actually pretty calculated with it, which is why I have so much to spend lol.
@@BasementBrandon And here I am broke because I bought nintendo switch.
Brandon Campbell Diamond hey bud would you ever sell a few pairs of them calibrated plates of yours?? Let me know if you ever would..
Joey Hernandez sold them all already and made money off the deal!
Brandon Campbell Diamond well if you ever sell any of your other gear let me know
Man, I recently began to watch a lot of your videos as I'm trying to build my home/apartment gym. Your videos have been very helpful and I love the sense of humor you're using! Thank you and hopefully, your channel will be more successful than as already is!
Awesome! Thank you!
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Quite informative. I have some of those exact Rogue machined plates in the silver/gray color. Love them! Accurate. Fit the bar well with very little slop. And they look great.
Nice!!!
Had no idea all the finer details when it came to plates. Thanks for the info!
You bet!
Good info. This is a really educational series. Thanks!
Glad you like them. I like talking about equipment as you can tell lol
I like how he didn’t care that he didn’t hit 10 min. He was just worried about making a video for the viewers.
Haha trust me, no one wants a few seconds of fluff just to hit that 2nd ad!
more plates, more dates
In my case more plates, less dates.
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@@BasementBrandon oh, the life of a married man
more plates more dates - but with dudes
...liking the gear. friend of a friend, was a S&C coach there for a minute (he worked w/ football primarily).. great content as always
Thanks Daniel!
It’s nice hearing a review on the best plates you can buy. I did get four 35s which made me laugh in your vid because I’m lazy. I keep one pair by the bench and another on the squat rack.
Haha convenience rules supreme.
These new vids you are putting out are superb! (that's no foul on your always great content) Great info, and thanks for all you do!
Glad you like them, I like talking equipment lol.
What!?! WVU represent! Hi from Seattle! (WV native and WVU trained lawyer and physical therapist)
Dope!
The Campbell Line of Plates: Aggressive knurl everywhere!
knurl on knurl.
I agree completely.
I know, I know, you've been waiting patiently for my approval... ;)
Can finally breathe now!
My garage gym isn't tall enough to overhead press 45LB plates without banging into the ceiling. 35's fit with my OHP perfectly. There's your use case if you need one.
yeah buddy!!
Or if the garage is cluttered with other people's stuff and you have to lift in a dedicated exercise room, the ceiling may be too low for guys that aren't even 6' tall
Digging the WVU shirt. Let's go Mountaineers!!!
Morgantown represent.
I need multiple pairs because I always do supersets so I would sometimes need 35's on a bar to do rows while also needing them on a bar for presses.
Right on!
9:58!!!!!!! Respect homie.
Lol, I thought about letting it just fade to black until 10 min but that would have been annoying for you all.
For Rogue:
The 6 shooters look like classic Ivanko.
The four spoke look like classic York.
Right on
I obtained four Ivanko M-Series 35lb plates the other day - 35lb plate supporter here!
My man!
Thanks for your input.
Sure thing
Awesome video Brandon. I was hoping you would discuss the 'machining' process.
With Rogue Matte Black Friday shipping and Hundo Pricing, there's no better bang for your buck. Functionally, I'm very happy I went with the Rogue Machined plates. That said, they're clearly still subject to Chinese quality control standards. The "machining" or "milling" on my plates are very apparent as many of the center hole profiles were cut down (not protrude as high) to ensure weight is within tolerance. Additionally, no two plates have the same color consistency. Some plates look flat grey while other plates (and even within the same plate) have a different looking hammertone finish.
Do you have similar quality control issues with your 6 shooters? I have the 'deep dish' standard plates.
The looks tend to be similar in structure, but the paint is a bit different on a few. I'll try to show this in my review. There's some other slight imperfections on the rounded edges, but overall I love them. It was a really tough choice to choose between these and the ones you got.
Thanks Brandon. I'm very satisfied too. Just a little bummed something with a Rogue name on it (albeit not manufactured by Rogue) would have higher quality standard in consistency.
Highly recommend Troy interlocking plates there expensive but work very well :)
Troy does offer some nice options on their machined plates!
Where?
I been thinking for a long time about selling all my 45’s I’ve gotten over the years for 5-6 sets of deep dish!! Damn their my favorite please stop this series before I spend more money on plates!(this been one of my favorite series btw)
Haha only one more left! Some good deals on calibrated plates!
You should make a video on today's covid19 market on plates and gym equipment what the best to buy at this covid prices etc etc
Ugh I've seen 2nd hand prices come down some, but I can't believe what some people were asking for and getting a few months ago!
I can’t believe I just voluntarily just watched another man just sit there and speak for almost ten minutes... and about fitting his bar into holes no less. (These innuendos are killing me man.)
Just goes to show, you don’t need a gimmick. Just some good content.
Thanks for the advice on weights... and holes. Can’t wait for things to be in stock again
haha appreciate that man
This is actually the first plate video, of yours, that I've seen. I think a cool video on the subject of plates would be a visit to a manufacturing center/ factory. i.e. bumpers, machined, calibrated and otherwise
agreed, unfortunately there are not many made in the US any longer.
Yeah, that's pretty unfortunate. Maybe a barbell?
Rip, in Australia I haven’t been able to find machined plates. It’s either cast iron, calibrated, or bumpers.
Yeah you all have it tough!
I like the dunbellbuddy ivanko deep dish sets ..Las Vegas not to far from me for shipping 457.5 lb set👍🏻... I’m never going to lift more than that in DL or SQT at my age ... so works for me 👌
Yeah the dude there will work with you to also customize plates in a set which I like, but the price point was still about a $1/lbs more than what I ended up getting, which was a swing of around $800 so couldn't justify it.
Very informative never knew this :D
Wish there was more info/videos available on the making of gym equipment!
@@BasementBrandon sounds like a niche you can fill
1:15 is killing me, lol
;)
I have had these in my Rogue cart for months. The shipping prevents me from pulling the trigger but I’ll justify it eventually 😂
Yeah shipping can be a big pain, but since I was already paying to get my rack at the time, it was only like $40 more than I was paying (for an additional 800lbs).
Wait for black friday, Rogue has cheap shipping on plates every year
Adam Stenson yeah trying to have the discipline to do that lol
@@mmullane31 it's tough man! I had to deal with shitty plates that were all different diameters for too long
Just bought 4 pairs of 45 pounds, 2 pairs of 35 pounds and 2.5 pairs of 25 pounds for $0.56/pound.
I plan on selling the extra pair of 35 lbs and 1.5 pair of 25 lbs. I know exactly what you mean when you wish they would all offer one pair, additional to a 10 plate pair with n count of 45 lbs but it's kinda like buying hot dogs and buns. You'll never have the same amount of buns then hot dogs so you always gotta one up the other the next trip in the grocery store.
I wanna say that your channel has helped me out immensely. I bought the x-3 rack flat foot because of your recommendation a while back and it looks amazing aesthetically, the rogue ohio power bar and the repfitness fb 5000 bench because of your channel. I hope content like this keeps on coming more for us garage gym owners.
Question: Do you ever plan on maybe opening up your own gym for the more hardcore, competitive powerlifters / weightlifters / strongmen out there some day?
I like that analogy, mostly b/c I like hot dogs. I don't foresee a gym in my future. Real estate in the NE is pricey and there's no real incentive at this point. If there was an efficient way to do it where it wouldn't suck my bank account dry I'd love to, just don't imagine it's possible.
To each is own I have been using the standard iron plates for 38 years.They work just fine for me.
Nice.
York Legacy plates.
Calibrated, but old school milled 👍
Some good ones for sure!
I have my eyes on those atm. It will either be those or Rep's equilizers.
Pro tip: Order plates on black friday. Both Rogue and Adamant barbell (Troy machined plates) have deals on plates
Yeah black friday and rogue is a pretty sweet combo!
I had to subscribe to your channel because you share my sons first name and your sarcastic. Thanks for the info on steel plates. Like most people I’ve decided that going to the gym is no longer an option and I have a cheap backup weight set and oddly enough I just broke the collar on my bar the other day so I’m trying to get a rack set for my garage gym. Holy crap though everyone is selling out of there rack systems..crazy! Thanks again brother I’m a subscriber.
Appreciated! It's a real tough time to be a buyer right now!
What are your thoughts on rubber-coated and urethane-coated iron plates? From what I've read, they're quieter, less likely to corrode, and durable (even more so with urethane coating)... but are they worth the additional cost, especially for a home gym application?
A lot of the older ones I've seen don't age well. Don't think it's worth the upcharge.
Please recommend me one of your videos on reducing lower-back pain when squatting and deadlifting. I just got back in the gym after being out of it for a year.
If you have pain it's likely a sign something is wrong, tough to tell what it is though without seeing you lift.
Brandon, what are your thoughts on using machined/milled plates for dead lifting specifically. I am really just trying to purchase one set of weights and using them for all my workout needs. I was leaning towards REP’s rubber coated plates, but after watching this video I am leaning more towards a machined plate. One thing to note, I have 1/2” rubber gym flooring in my garage. That is all I have to cushion a deadlift.
You could go either TBH. Rubber coated or urethane are fine as well, just depends on your budget.
So I bought a cheap bar and some cheap plates to get me started. These weights were all that was available at the time. I recently was able to get a PRX performance profile rack. I am very happy with the rack and the customer service from this company. In the end when things calm down I may want to replace my bar and weights. Do you have any experience with the PRX bars and weights?
I do not!
You really do make great, very informative videos, but I used to wonder if you would ever smile. It was nice to see you cracking some jokes in this video.
Appreciated!
@Brandon Campbell Diamond....I see you have IronMaster Quick-Lock Adjustable Dumbbell System in the background. Worth the price...or no?
I have an in-depth video on them, but it depends. If you want the closest thing to a real dumbbell without paying a few thousand for a real set (and taking up all the floor space), they're a great deal. If you like super quick adjustability, or don't care if they feel like a dumbbell or an awkward block, prob not for you.
The ivankos, rogue, troy are "lathed" the old usa yorks are milled (some York's where lathed though)
my man with the knowledge!
Have you ever seen the watson pro plates?
Just wondering if they are even possible to beat, they really seem to be a cut above the rest
They do look pretty nice.
Would it be worth getting strongarm calibrated plates if they’re the same cost as machined plates from rogue/ivanko/York machined plates when accounting for shipping and the weaker Canadian dollar?
They're basically the same as Rogue minus the branding and IPF stickers. Just depends on which way you want to roll with it.
Hey I’m a machinist!!! I’m machining right now 🤙👍💪
Make me some plates! lol
You go boy!
Brandon Campbell Diamond lol I’m on it!
I love going thru play it again sports if you have one local. They sell a 300lb (including a cheap bar) for 255$, Troy Set. I find I can resell extra barbells or change plate, but overall save money at just $1/lb for the whole plate set.
Nice, i think yours is probably the most "local" to me. Are they the machined Troy?
Yes they are. I use to run one in FL, but if I know there are a few around me. I know you can also order bulk 45s and not need to pay shipping. The time to get them can be a little bit though.
I am thinking of buying the York Deep Dish plates(as they are the only ones available). Do you know how accurate they are?
The machined ones I believe are within 2% +/-
I see you have ironmaster dumbbell (background pic ) why don't you have the ironmaster 2000 self spotting machine I'm thinking to get it?.
Don't really see a need to add one.
These are the coolest looking plates ever made.
Pretty dope!
Which plates are the best to buy for a garage home gym
Right now, whichever ones are in stock!
Hey Can you talk about diameter for doing classic olympic lifts with 25lb machined plates? For someone who can't snatch a 135 yet, how should he get his form right using machined plates? The benefit of bumpers is they're all the same diameter. So you can snatch using a pair of 15s with the exact same form as using a pair of 45s? What's the solution for that with machined plates?
Should lift off blocks in that case to raise teh bar to correct level.
Hey Brandon how about iron grip iron plates plates ??? I'm thinking about buying on the 2 hand market hope to see ur response thanks
Really just depends on what you want and what kind of price you want to pay!
How do you tell if a Olympic iron plate is machined or not? I’m talking about used. New is easier to tell but when there’s surface rust it’s harder to tell.
Should be able to tell based of the model and make of the plate.
I got fat bumper plates from rogue. They're ok outside of being too big on the bar.
Right on
These companies assuming you have are running a gym including all those small plates :(
I got all my plates on craigslist. I'm waiting for black friday to see if there are any good deals on plates and maybe a bar.
Thanks for the info.
Should be some good ones!
Noticed the same thing to about sets of plates
Right on!
It's kind of funny. ROGUE makes plates "similar" to IVANKO. And then they complain about TITAN "copying" them!
Lol good point
I'm confident that the sets with, 4x35, 8x25, etc are for people with Olympic Dumbbells. Those maniacs.
Lol
Rogue now lets you choose how do you want these plates, however i still find that it makes more sense for me to buy some extra (like if i buy the 500lbs set, I still need some 35's and 25's and maybe a pair of 10's, because 5 plates, that's basically 450lbs already. and then 1000ls set is a bit too much for my home gym as I don't think i will ever go above 700 on DL.
For me it also helps when supersetting in exercises.
@@BasementBrandon good point
Hey Brandon, do you know any good places to get machined plates in the UK? Hopefully you're still reading these comments, and thank you for the great video!
Ah I'm not as familiar with the companies that offer them outside of the states :(
That’s alright, thank you for responding :)
Does anyone know when Schisler first made plates? I tried Google no luck.
Maybe join one of the vintage weight groups on FB?
Sick video
Thanks Cesar.
I think when they say machined they might be simplifying the drilling and lathe turning process.
But it's all machining.
Makes sense!
Do you got a video on dumbells??
On Ironmasters.
One year later, and thanks to the lockdown, the best plates are the ones you can get. All of my home gym Olympic plates are bumper because that is what is available.
Sure seems like it
I love 35s... makes loading deadlifts so ez.
My man
8:02 been shopping for plates and this is frustrating. once saw a set with 3 sets of 35's and no 45's
so strange.
At some point I think you'll end up buying more calibrated plates.
I wouldn't say that's out of the question eventually. There are some good deals to be had. Just right now I can't justify it for how small my space is.
What’s with all the holes when you can only use one at a time
That's where you're wrong
Don't we all have more than one hole?
Well I mean with that attitude...
if you put an unsimetrical number of holes you'll move the center of mass outside the centar of the plate, probably that's why
@@B1G613 That's gay.
A gym I trained at had the Rogue 6-shooters. The edges were sharp! That alone made me not consider them when I purchased plates for my home gym.
Really? I don't have any sharp edges on mine.
@@BasementBrandon I'm not sure if it happened with time/usage but the outer edge was sharp on a lot of the plates. Maybe they changed that with more recent versions.
Hey Brandon! As far as I can tell, the only machined plates you can get in Europe are the SQMIZE Olympic Legacy Plates. I believe they are the exact same plates as the Rogue Olympic Machined Plates - just in KG. The appearance and width are exactly the same, for example. However, SQMIZE plates have two small drawbacks: the 20 kg plates have a diameter of 445 mm, and the center hole has a diameter of 51 mm (2"). Would that be a dealbreaker for you, or do you think other than them being loud, it shouldn't be too bad? They are reasonably priced, and they have a weight tolerance of just +/- 1%. Would love to hear your thoughts, thanks! I'll get my entire home gym setup from SQMIZE (rack, bars and flooring), so it would be cool have a one stop shop.
By the way, my other option would be the Strength Shop Riot Cast Iron Plates, which have a diameter of 450 mm, a 50,3 mm center and a weight tolerance of +/- 2%. The SS plates are a bit cheaper even considering shipping, but of course I would have to deal with another shipment. And getting heavy gym equipment shipped is kind of a pain here in Austria.
So what I would say first is a lot of what I cover here are my own preferences having owned anything. At the end of the day all of them can and will get you strong. What it should come down to for you is what is the most appealing to you: budget, tolerance, width, material, etc.
@@BasementBrandon Thanks, Brandon! You’re right! I’ve probably become too neurotic about the planning of my home gym during our house construction. I'll probably get everything from SQMIZE. Even though they have kind of a silly brand name, they're a great company based in Germany and they obviously care about their products. I think it’s really cool of you to answer all the questions! You’ve helped me with making my decision, thanks for that! :)
@@MJA89 I have to be neutral so ultimately you're the one who makes the decision and not me 😅
To me, the Black Friday deal on rogue calibrated plates is the way to go if you’re into powerlifting style workouts. Love mine
Agreed, when I sold mine I made money!
Awesome shirt
Thanks!
Can anyone explain whats wrong with 35s? I have even noticed that some commercial gyms don't have them and I have never heard why.
Some people feel they aren't necessary b/c you could use a 25 and a 10 to accomplish the same thing.
@@BasementBrandon That makes way more sense when I remember that non-bumper plate sets don't come with 15s. (I know I don't lift enough to need them but it makes the landlord happy)
Milled plates begin with a rough casting of a plate, and is finished with Machining
Machined plates begin with a solid billet of stock material, and is fully machined from start to finish.
Machining typically has more individual steps to get from billet, to finished product than Milling. Since in Milling, you already have a rough plate, you're just going over pre-established dimensions. Fully Machined plates are more expensive, because they take more time on the machines doing the cutting, and needs more experienced programmers and operators, versus milled where you can hire a less experienced "button pusher" operator.
At the end of the day, the only real diff is what you start with, and how much you have to pay the person operating the machines that make the plates
Nice, thanks for the insight.
@@BasementBrandon any time!! I was a machinist for a while, so this is something I am somewhat educated on :P
I had a few Ivankos that weren't within the 2% parameters they said were suppose to.
Major respect to the company who can give a guarantee such as "Within 2% or you get a full refund" lol
Candi Soda ,,are the ivankos under weight or overweight ? I’m asking because I was going to buy a set ..👌
Yeah I've heard some similar things with the newer ones. Seems once they started outsourcing to china the quality dropped some.
@@anthonyluisi7096
Lol just one 2.5lb plate was underweight and 2x were overweight (10lb plates). Nothing to go crazy over. This was out of 75lb of plates.
Chances are slim that you somehow get a bunch of bad lemons and coincidentally put them all on one side of the bar anyways.
I emailed them out of curiousity on how they go about knowing if all their plates are within 2%. They just gave the generic cut n paste response from the Faqs page of "We stack a couple thousand pounds on a scale and if it's within 2%, we pass them as within 2%" lol.. So i asked, "So what do you do if that stack of plates wasn't within 2%"
Never got an answer back 🤣
They're still good quality plates though, but saying they're within 2% of the stated weight is off putting.
Same with this dude in MN, lol his Omni Olympic plates were definitely not within 2% when I weighed them sooo yea
minneapolis.craigslist.org/csw/spo/d/chanhassen-300-pound-olympic-weight-set/6901862300.html
@elephantrider78
I believe you. But I still think they shouldn't be allowed to boast the 2% status.
@elephantrider78
Oh wow, that's pretty legit of them. Sounds like a good brand already!
Rep's plate price is pretty good, a pair for $80. Less than $1/lb is my price point. You used to be able to get plates on Amazon for well below $90 a pair but the last time I got them they were a lot closer to $90. I was wondering if the price for iron was going up because everyone's plate prices were increasing.
They have decent offerings, just wish they could sort out their shipping prices and keep things in stock lol.
@@BasementBrandon yeah that turned me off from them and also Archon. I was considering them for a new power rack but their stock is always in and out. Titan had the rack I wanted with the height and at the right price. I'm waiting to open up the packages and make sure I have everything.
This was pre pandemic, wasn’t it?
Is there an all weights matter T shirt?
Haha not yet, but maybe all funding can go to to finding homes for abandoned 35s.
Do u find any difference in how heavy the plates feel compared to calibrated plates? I have the strongarm sport calibrated plates. I also go to 2 different gyms. The gym plates feel so much easier I actually brought my scale to the gym just to make sure they're 45lbs.
Are you comparing the blue 20kg to the 45lbs plates?
@@BasementBrandon no. Just the total weight. Like say, if I can bench 350 for whatever in the gym and then I try 160kg in the house, the kg's feel way heavier. And I mean it's every time. A lot of times I'll have to finish a workout at the gym because I have to meet a client. And it always feels lighter. Maybe just placebo. Idk
@@2080bop For me a big thing was how little space it takes up compared to regular plates. Calibrated look like they don't weigh much, but usually are much heavier!
Do you know the hole tolerances or specifics from brand to brand? Getting a 50mm hole vs a 2 inch hole is going to decide which plate I choose!
I'm considering rogue/york. I have looked, hole tolerance info is hard to find for some reason
Rogue almost always lists it in their specs.
I find this so weird yet cool this video exists
Haha thanks... I think.
Who are the figures in your tattoos on the left? They look Sumerian or Egyptian.. Very cool looking
It's the Egyptian scene of the weighing of the heart.
I trained at a gym today that had the Rogue Machined plates. Holy crap are they sexy.
It was a tough decision to make, but I went 6 shooters b/c they're a tad more accurate (1% vs 2%) and slightly thinner. But I do look at those machined ones often still lol.
@@BasementBrandon What I really liked about them is they had the same feel as using calibrated KG plates. Very solid and pretty much true to weight. And when doing deads I didn't have to chase the bar, it stuck to the ground.
Brandon, what do you think of rubber coated Olympic plates with steel insert. I found some rep rubber v2s and like them a lot, fit well...not many reviews. Do you like these plates for home use?
Just depends what you're going for. usually more pricey!
Brandon Campbell Diamond have you ever seen or used those plates though? Just curious about your thoughts on the quality of that plate. Can’t find many reviews on those other than their website. Thanks for the reply!
Nolan Stojentin are you looking at rubber coated iron, urethane coated, or bumper?
Brandon Campbell Diamond looking at rubber coated iron. Rep fitness rubber coated v2s. They are about the same price as some machined iron plates. Do they compare in quality to some of the machined plates you mention?
@@nolanstojentin8086 They're slightly smaller in diameter from what I can see and they are don't have as good of a tolerance (3%).
I prefer the vernacular Rusty Wagonwheel. I believe Mark Bell invented something along those lines.
Ah yeah they do have wagon wheels which simulate block pulls.
I was talking about the leather cheerio but thats ok
Can you review the new deep dish plates by Rogue?
I'm not sure if I'm going to get any TBH. They look cool, but I think they're a bit too wide without any really added benefit. Back in the day plates were made to be deep dish to distribute force, but with todays equipment it's not really an issue.
The Brandon I know doesn’t need a benefit and loves to spend money. And they’re make a USA.
Does the hole loosen as the plate gets older?
Shouldn't!
@@BasementBrandon things that sound dirty but aren't. LOL
Hey I found a website that sells sets of Ivanko slotted for $175. Have you reviewed those before?
Sure that's not for a pair?
Brandon Campbell Diamond Yes; sorry $150 for the set, which includes two of each: 45, 25, 10, 5, and 2.5. I’m thinking of picking up 2 sets and they look like their in good shape from the pic.
ah used, average price is around $1/lbs, so at around $0.86/lbs it's an ok deal. I will say they're prob my least favorite aesthetically of all their plates.
Are you from WV? I went to WVU Tech.
I'm not, but I like to support teams by buying shirts to help raise money.
Dig the shirt WV
Need to support the boys!
I like a little slop on my bar but no scratches
Hey now!
What about weider weight plates? What do you think about those?
The most popular ones you find used are usually a bit smaller diameter and 44lbs/20kg.
Love the shirt. Remember where u got it from?
bought it from the treasurer or the PL team there. If you have IG send me a message there and I'll connect you.
@@BasementBrandon message sent!
Nice plates man. I have had my hands on plenty of Ivanko revolvers and have been wondering if the 6 shooter design is an improvement since the even number of holes are directly opposite each other. This is usually beneficial if you use the plates for any non barbell 2 handed exercises. Side note; how OCD are you, do you line up all the holes when you put them on the bar and/or rack/tree? :-)
I'm pretty OCD when they're on the bar, but by the time I put them on the tree I'm too tired to care lol.
But 25+10 is more plates on the bar than 35, which makes it look like I'm lifting more, and it doesn't matter what you lift all that matters is what you look like lifting...at least that's what I tell myself.
That being said I use Vulcan calibrated since the free shipping on sets made them actually cost less than machined at the time I ordered them.
Just load up all 5s! 💪
@@BasementBrandon
Haha, nice. On a serious note, I'll load either way. Just depends on which is more convenient with how much I'm increasing the weight on the bar....or whichever one lets me be more lazy
Always have been and always will be in the school of thought that - weight is weight. Is there a difference in quality? Yes. But it all boils down to is the extra cost truly worth it? Law of diminishing returns I believe is what it is called. And IMO for weight plates it starts to diminish - FAST pretty much once you go past the cheapest plates you can find. Now you don't want anything that's going to shatter upon impact if you drop the plate onto the floor, say on a deadlift or if you're doing one of those painful looking Oly lifts like a clean and jerk, haha. But as long as you buy from at least a fairly reputable manufacturer - I'm in the mindset of buy whatever the cheapest option is. If you fret over a plate being 1-2.... 3 lbs off what's painted on the plate itself. I'd rather invest in a simple paint marker. Odds are you already have a scale. Weigh each plate and use said paint marker to write the true weight of the plate on said plate. Then pair off plates that fall closest to each other in weight and make sure you put each one on either side of the bar. Voila..... your bar is evenly weighted and you know EXACTLY how much weight is on the bar. Or..... you can be a sane person and just use the plates as is and know you're in the ballpark of what weight you're lifting that's said on the plates. Rogue seems the place most people go for everything, so the cheapest option there is their cast iron plates..... which I use. I haven't felt the need to weigh each one, but let's say, on average of the eight 45 lb cast iron plates I own the average amount they're off by is 1.5 lbs. Fuck it.... 2 lbs. If I'm deadlifting 405 lbs with just those plates (I also have 4 - 55 lb bumpers I use.... to help save my floor, in addition to 2- 45lb bumpers..... for the same reason) I can actually be deadlifting "only" 390ish lbs..... or..... 420ish pounds in the most extreme cases. Odds are, between the 8 plates though, they'll likely all average out to be..... 45 lbs, give or take a few tenths of a pound. Meaning - I'll be lifting about 405 lbs. Now will that be an even steven 202.5 lbs on each half of the bar? Probably not. If that makes you freak out because you're OCD.... do one set. Step over the bar to face the other way..... and do your next set on that side. Do 4 sets and the "unevenness" has been felt by both sides of your body twice.
Bottom line...... it's not that big of a deal. At most, if you want to make it into a deal, just buy the paint marker for like $3 and weigh each cast iron plate you have and write down the EXACT weight each plate is and just evenly distribute that weight on the bar. I only say this to this extent and length, because the Rogue cast iron plates are $105 for a PAIR of 45 lb plates. The machined variety for the same pair of 45s..... $160. A $55 premium, and those machined plates aren't necessarily going to be 100% spot on either. They market it as having only a +2% weight tolerance. meaning they will never be under 45 lbs, but could weigh as much as..... 45.9 lbs. Or.... you can just buy the $3 paint marker, save the other $52 and buy the cast iron plates instead. As for calibrated plates. While pretty as fuck - complete waste of money IMO. Unless you are going to hold your own competition I fail to see the point. If anything I'd want plates way off in weight, ideally on the high side if I was training for a competition. If you're deadlifting 650 lbs with your junk weights, but the true weight is more like 655-660, when you go to the competition and they put 650 on the bar it's going to fly off the ground. Those calibrated 45s from rogue..... $185/pair. $80 more than the cast iron option, but only $25 more than the machined option. So if I wanted to piss money away on weight..... I'd probably just shell out the extra $25 and go all the way and get the calibrated plates. I mean if you're about to piss away a truckload of money on machined weight plates what's another few hundred bucks? I mean 4 pairs of machined 45 lb plates will run you $640. Calibrated variety - $740. Why not just spend the extra $100 at that point. Shipping will be the same because...... weight. is. weight.
While I see your points, I disagree. For most of the people watching, training is a hobby and like most hobbies people want to invest in it. Those cheap cast iron plates can also run into other issues in terms of return on investment, in a normal market they drop in value as soon as they're purchased, while good plates will retain most if not all (in some cases actually increase) over time.
@@BasementBrandon - I don't care about resale value. You'll get whatever someone is willing to pay. That said, even pre-covid I'd see on FB marketplace your standard cast iron plates going for at LEAST $1/lb. If I were to ever buy anything used it would be the cheapest thing I can find. I find so much stuff on craigslist or marketplace that's being sold for damn near retail price..... especially now for obvious reasons. If someone buys beat up calibrated plates anywhere near retail price (or any used equipment for that matter IMO) - they're a dummy. Why not just save the extra $100-300 and buy brand new? Ex. Rogue CI plates for a pair of 45s run at $1.16/lb..... not factoring in shipping. I just went on marketplace. Some dude in my area has only 55 lbs worth of plates for sale..... for $55. Again, that's likely covid inflated, but still. Even before the nonsense that is 2020 you'd see similar prices. Maybe pre-2020 those 55 lbs would be listed for $45-50...... still. Even at that price it's not worth it IMO.
And most people who do this for a hobby..... don't go through 3 power racks in about 3-4 years.... like someone I know, haha. We actually subscribe to the "buy nice, buy once" mantra. And what's "nice" about weight plates? Not much really IMO. Because like I said, weight is weight. I don't know many people who have their own equipment cycle through it like you do, resell it, just to buy different yet the same stuff. I mean I've watched your channel off and on for about 3-4 years and have seen you go from bumpers, to calibrated plates ( I think 2 sets), to I believe Rogue machined plates, to RepFitness' version of Rogue's machined plates. No one does that, haha. For the VAST majority of (sane..... or at least non-youtuber.... so sane, haha) people, cast iron plates is all they need and maybe 1-2 pairs of bumpers to put on when doing deadlifts.... and then load the rest of the bar with CI plates... to help protect the floor.
Bottom line. I don't know few people who actually own their own home gym setup like mine or yours. Of the people I DO know..... none of them plan to resell any of their stuff.... to buy new, but the same stuff again. ESPECIALLY right now seeing as how 8 months into this nonsense and fitness equipment manufacturers STILL can't supply their warehouses with, you know, the shit they supposedly sell. I am more floored with the fact you're capable of buying all this new shit somehow. How you're buying and getting anything in 2020 is baffling to me. I just entered Ironmaster's lottery drawing for the OPPORTUNITY to buy their quicklock dumbbells. I am supposed to hear this week if I get the "luxury" of buying from them. I was about to type "or not" but they aren't even going to notify people if they weren't selected. 2020 has been a maddening year and really has put a sour taste in my mouth toward pretty much every equipment manufacturer seemingly being incapable of getting their business in order..... 8 months into the dumbest "pandemic" in the history of pandemics.
Sorry for the rant there at the end. not really at you but at the equipment retailers - to be fair. Bottom line though is this - few people rotate through equipment like you and couldn't care less about resale value or ROI. My ROI is whether or not I actually use the piece of equipment and does it make me bigger or stronger? More of a health/fitness ROI if you will. And cast iron plates work just as well as machined or calibrated.
@@doseofreality100 I appreciate the feedback and opinion, but you're in the minority of those who watch this channel with those statements.
@@doseofreality100 Equipment retailers can only sell what they can get their hands on. If the equipment they sell is being manufactured out of California (think Ivanko), but the State of California is restricting people from working, then there will be a shortage of Ivanko equipment to sell. And let's not forget that about a million more people started equipping their home gyms since the pandemic hit.
One thing this pandemic has taught me is that working out with crappy equipment in a basement for over a year is almost torture. From my experience, weight ain't weight.