Yeah these rollers cost more than the rack I just ordered. Not sure what's scarier, that the rollers are that expensive or that the rack is that cheap.
Cost is too high in my opinion and I would compare these to a Deadlift jack. While it is convenient, it’s highly unnecessary for most people in the home gym scene. My urge for new toys is also strong and, at times, does win.
A deadlift jack is a nice expense. Theirs not so much. $300 for a Ghost deadlift jack which is the same as a Titan or Rogue at 2-5x the price. Mine is a lifesaver. Especially when multiple people are deadlifting at the same time.
Brandon, I frequently travel to the Anvil Gym where all of the ghost strong equipment is used and originated. All of their equipment is the best I have ever used or seen. Everything is rock solid and the finish is to the highest degree. Hopefully people get past the cost point and support this company. The equipment will be around longer than the lifters lifetime!
The spotter deck height is perfect, the j cups are great especially for geared benchers, safety spotter arms don’t budge when you dump weight. Can’t say enough about their equipment. Hopefully you’ll get use more of their equipment someday!
$300 to solve a problem 99% of lifters didn't even know they had until someone mentioned it. I've been lifting for 25+ years and honestly can't think of one time where I couldn't center the weight while using normal J-cups. This product shows how good we have it. I remember when home gyms were really crappy with concrete weight sets. Now we have such nice equipment available, we're making stuff up we don't really need. What a time to be alive!
Thanks for the review! These are things that you don't think you need, but once you have them, you love them (kinda like a deadlift jack). I have a set from Connor & while not cheap (not $300 either), I never want to use regular J-hooks again. Only downside I have noticed & not sure if you've had these w/ the Ghost cups. The contact patch on the bar is slightly smaller & if you are loading/unloading too many plates on one side vs the other, the lighter side may raise up (if the bar isn't centered in the rack). Not that I make it a practice to do that, but sometimes it happens. I actually broke one of Connor's j-cups when the bar slammed back down (I was training w/ a couple younger guys & didnt realize they were loading too many plates on one side.). Anyway, he made me a new one & no problems since.
Completely agree on the first statement! As for the 2nd, I haven't seen that myself, but Connors are a lot better than the ones I was having made as he's pretty meticulous about drilling and measuring. Glad to hear he took care of you. I've been trying to push him to do more of these!
Do you think these would keep a Duffalo bar centered? Mine shifts to the side every time I rack it in my Rogue sandwich j cups and I constantly have to re center it.
I'll just keep lifting in my homemade power rack with bolts for bar pins. It's worked pretty well for the last 20 years. You don't need anything fancy to lift, just lift. A rock will do.
Rogue bought Ghost Strong and you can get them for $225 for textured black metal and composite roller instead of stainless metal (unnecessary) and they are better designed than the 2.0 ghost strong because they have UHMW on the front of the hook. Ships in 4-6 weeks.
Just watched a video about something I could make in the length of the video. I like your reivews Brandon so I will give you the view. Strange that Rogue havent released any yet, considering the made the combo rack now. Not alot of design to get that roller system over to a rack 🤔
I will seriously consider purchasing these for my RML if they fix the loose fit to the rack issue you highlight at the end of the video. That would drive me crazy. How do you like the grove that essentially pulls the bar away from the edge? If you drive into the bar / rack to wedge it into your back do you feel the bar slide out of the roller groove?
I didn't have this issue yesterday during squatting, but I suppose it would also depends if you have lot of distance from where you rack to where you unrack (if that makes sense)
I was curious why you never further pursued your roller cops. Next time you have an idea that you want to develop bring it to me in will make a quality product to gather and put it on the market
@@BasementBrandon moving into a bigger shop and considering doing a bed and breakfast where people can come and spend a week building their own equipment or design. What's your thought?
@@BasementBrandon later this week I am going to upload a video of a customer coming to the shop and building his own (with guidance, supervision, and help) wheel adapter. We went from cad layout to him learning milling basics and running the mill. He is the one gave me the idea. I think the successful Millenniums or a "Shop Class is Soul Craft" Generation. This fellow drove 6 hours to spend a day learning shop basics and building something that will be a one of a kind show piece to his friends. I'm not sure if he is a one off or how many other there are out there like him but it would not take many to create and have a new interesting side to the shop. :)
@@BasementBrandon i agree most people that lift seem to be broke and lr cheap... We arent talking golfers or skiiers who are willing and able to spend decent money...
Can we use cerakote barbells on these type of j cups? I mean will there be any damage on the coating of the bar? The same have been launched by a company here in Delhi.
Hmmmm... someone now needs to create a roller-kit (that can bolt onto either the Rogue or Titan Monolift attachments) using their respective existing UHMW mount points.
Rogue will come out with a version for cheaper soon. Hopefully as aesthetically pleasing (though, imo rogue has a long way to go on the aesthetics of some of their products) as these too.
@@BasementBrandon makes sense bro. All I want is for the bar to not roll back in the jcup when I bench, any recommendations on which ones to upgrade to?
Yeah if they could get these to around $200 I think that would be the sweet spot. Heavier duty regular j-cups typically sell for well over $100 so I think that's fair.
Spoiler 5:57 I see those 6 shooters. My comment on your plates video I was like ivanko ez or rogue six shooters.can't wait to see what you think of them.
I couldn't avoid them in this video. Need to get around to making that one, but it's just been tough, not a lot of time and a lot of videos on my to do list!
Great review. Do you think these would work for a duffalo bar? I squat mainly with that and I’m always running into the bar getting shifted one way or the other. Thanks man
Damn, only 3" x 3". I just ordered the Titan X2. I guess I'll have to wait for them to make a 2"x2" version. I like 2"X2" more, guess this is the only time I'll ever say I prefer smaller 😂.
Hello, Brandon. This may be the stupidest question ever, but so be it. Are store bought egg whites (Like cartoned or something) the same as just me separating the yolk and the whites from a regular egg? Thanks. Again, sorry bout this lol, its embarrassing
I asked you about these on instagram awhile back these are awesome but the cost is a big letdown. It is more of an icing on the cake piece and will buy it if and only if I have the extra cash and income
@@BasementBrandon oh definitely. I only have it because I compete so its for the sake of specificity. Even if you compete you probably don't need it, I was just thrown off by the set up at a few meets and want more practice with it.
Once you get used to it there are no issues and then you have a lot more adaptability options to other brands, but at the end of the day it's up to you!
Rae Crowther used to offer these on their racks, years ago. Unfortunately, they only fit their racks and are not currently produced. The j-cup was constructed with a valley or "V" design which also returned the bar to the same position, each time. In my opinion, if you're misracking that poorly, each time, you need to work on both your precision & accuracy of your walkout or unrack when squatting/benching. If you can't adjust the bar to center it, why are you training to lifting weights. I'd rather buy a second bar (specialty bar specifically) to get even stronger as that's a better use of money. I can't wait to see how Rogue rips off Ghost. If it happens in 2020, well, I'll laugh.
MrChopsuy well if you look at a normal rack or deadlift jack there’s not much to change, but on certain items it’s easy to spot. They’re also a new company (last few months), which is why you haven’t seen them.
if you compete....these are golden though. when you get over a certain amount of weight on the bar....it's a damn hassle trying to get the bar centered in the jcups.
yikes . lost me at the first . Really wanted these. I follow walker on fb and watch his videos but man I work at krispy Kreme. I make the donuts and make 350 a week. mondays fucking suck because all the health care workers make is impossible to just park ... Yeah man fuck that price so hard such a waste of time
300 for fancy jay cups. If you’re too finicky about where your bar placement is and you’re too lazy to shift the bar on your own and you need it to be easy for you chances are you shouldn’t be in a gym. Lol gear for the lazy and stupid
Never even heard of such a thing, nor do I think anyone truly needs these. Just roll the bar with your hands as you pull/push the bar in the rack. This guy is a joke
Uploading at 10:15pm EST on a Sunday? Algorithm be damned lol.
Hello
$300 is just too much going to wait for Titan to rip it off.
lol
Sorry B ..... you lost me at $ 300 ...... I wondering why took so long to say how much they cost , could of saved me 10 mins ... JK 🤙🏽
I hope he meant $300 Pesos or yen!
Yeah these rollers cost more than the rack I just ordered. Not sure what's scarier, that the rollers are that expensive or that the rack is that cheap.
Def not cheap, but I was used to paying $150 or so for my janky ass ones
...okay but you can see the price @ 0:40 tho
@@BasementBrandon bruh a ducking chalk bowl is 1,100 from them...
i mean its built like it supposed to be used for war or something but damn.
Cost is too high in my opinion and I would compare these to a Deadlift jack. While it is convenient, it’s highly unnecessary for most people in the home gym scene. My urge for new toys is also strong and, at times, does win.
WrestlingDad1 Wrestling is cool.
A deadlift jack is a nice expense. Theirs not so much. $300 for a Ghost deadlift jack which is the same as a Titan or Rogue at 2-5x the price. Mine is a lifesaver. Especially when multiple people are deadlifting at the same time.
I hear you. For me it's one of those things though that once you have them, there's no going back!
I like my Dead Wedges that I bought for $10
Brandon, I frequently travel to the Anvil Gym where all of the ghost strong equipment is used and originated. All of their equipment is the best I have ever used or seen. Everything is rock solid and the finish is to the highest degree. Hopefully people get past the cost point and support this company. The equipment will be around longer than the lifters lifetime!
Great to hear, those comp benches they did for them that got them going are super nice looking.
The spotter deck height is perfect, the j cups are great especially for geared benchers, safety spotter arms don’t budge when you dump weight. Can’t say enough about their equipment. Hopefully you’ll get use more of their equipment someday!
Titant fitness need to body these an make em affordable for everyone
Lol
$300 to solve a problem 99% of lifters didn't even know they had until someone mentioned it. I've been lifting for 25+ years and honestly can't think of one time where I couldn't center the weight while using normal J-cups.
This product shows how good we have it. I remember when home gyms were really crappy with concrete weight sets. Now we have such nice equipment available, we're making stuff up we don't really need. What a time to be alive!
I think like most things it just depends. One of those you don't realize how helpful they are until you've used it.
@@BasementBrandon like the Pioneer Cut
@7:37 😆😆😆 brandon you never fail to make me smirk. lol great video!!!!
Thanks boss!
For Canadians reading this, Irwin fitness has some roller j cups similar to Ghost's. Pricing is similar but in Canadian dollars and no duty fees.
All made to order
They do look like they're coming out with some nice pieces.
The Official Brandon Campbell Diamond Cup Rollers or *“Diamond Cup Rollers!”* ...it has a nice tone to it too‼️
Lol prob would hurt resale value :)
Thanks for the review! These are things that you don't think you need, but once you have them, you love them (kinda like a deadlift jack). I have a set from Connor & while not cheap (not $300 either), I never want to use regular J-hooks again.
Only downside I have noticed & not sure if you've had these w/ the Ghost cups. The contact patch on the bar is slightly smaller & if you are loading/unloading too many plates on one side vs the other, the lighter side may raise up (if the bar isn't centered in the rack). Not that I make it a practice to do that, but sometimes it happens. I actually broke one of Connor's j-cups when the bar slammed back down (I was training w/ a couple younger guys & didnt realize they were loading too many plates on one side.). Anyway, he made me a new one & no problems since.
Completely agree on the first statement! As for the 2nd, I haven't seen that myself, but Connors are a lot better than the ones I was having made as he's pretty meticulous about drilling and measuring. Glad to hear he took care of you. I've been trying to push him to do more of these!
Do you think these would keep a Duffalo bar centered? Mine shifts to the side every time I rack it in my Rogue sandwich j cups and I constantly have to re center it.
Mike I’ve found rollers make it worse. I turn my normal cups in and it helps.
Brandon Campbell Diamond yeah that’s what I feared. Thanks.
I'll just keep lifting in my homemade power rack with bolts for bar pins. It's worked pretty well for the last 20 years. You don't need anything fancy to lift, just lift. A rock will do.
I get it, but by that logic what you have is still overkill. Why have a rack at all? go lift some rocks :)
@@BasementBrandon - the best combo perhaps is stones, logs and bars!:)
@@BasementBrandon lol fair point, still lifting those stones :)
I almost spit my coffee out at the size & girth comment.
Just talking bout rollers man!
Do you miss having the Westside hole spacing on your new rack?
Not at all, I think it comes more into play when multiple people use a rack, but I found I didn't do a lot of micro adjusting on my old RML
Rogue bought Ghost Strong and you can get them for $225 for textured black metal and composite roller instead of stainless metal (unnecessary) and they are better designed than the 2.0 ghost strong because they have UHMW on the front of the hook. Ships in 4-6 weeks.
All good points, but this video is 3 years old :)
@@BasementBrandon yup, lot happens in 3 years. Time for you to do a new review when it comes out ;)
Just watched a video about something I could make in the length of the video. I like your reivews Brandon so I will give you the view.
Strange that Rogue havent released any yet, considering the made the combo rack now. Not alot of design to get that roller system over to a rack 🤔
You know me, I like my context. I heard previously Rogue explored the idea but eventually passed, maybe they didn't see a need at the time.
Thanks for the video! Those Ghoststrong roller cups are $$$! Love the t-shirt!
Thanks dude!
Guess I'm lucky to have the BoS rack. Rollers come with it as part of the rack package. I mostly use them for OHP.
Right on!
Ya im Canadian. So its 425$ or 530$ CAD before shipping... WOW
Ouch
I specifically bought the monster lite rack because the accessories are a lot cheaper than the monster racks.
Right on
I will seriously consider purchasing these for my RML if they fix the loose fit to the rack issue you highlight at the end of the video. That would drive me crazy.
How do you like the grove that essentially pulls the bar away from the edge? If you drive into the bar / rack to wedge it into your back do you feel the bar slide out of the roller groove?
I didn't have this issue yesterday during squatting, but I suppose it would also depends if you have lot of distance from where you rack to where you unrack (if that makes sense)
I feel like I could make a pair of these for $50 in my basement. Wouldn't look as pretty but it would serve the same function.
My thoughts exactly buy a set from titan and modify it.
Probably could, but you could also prob say that for almost any piece of equipment!
Keep rollin’ rollin’ rollin’ - Fred Durst
Limp Bizkit is only rivaled by the Beatles.
I ended up getting theses over the rogue monster lite j cup sandwich because it's never in stock.
How do you like them?
@@BasementBrandon I was get them by Tuesday. I'll let you know 👍
I was curious why you never further pursued your roller cops. Next time you have an idea that you want to develop bring it to me in will make a quality product to gather and put it on the market
I still need to get you to make me something at some point! Just need to figure out what lol.
@@BasementBrandon moving into a bigger shop and considering doing a bed and breakfast where people can come and spend a week building their own equipment or design. What's your thought?
Gorilla Strength Equipment sounds cool but that’s going to be tough to market
@@BasementBrandon later this week I am going to upload a video of a customer coming to the shop and building his own (with guidance, supervision, and help) wheel adapter. We went from cad layout to him learning milling basics and running the mill. He is the one gave me the idea. I think the successful Millenniums or a "Shop Class is Soul Craft" Generation.
This fellow drove 6 hours to spend a day learning shop basics and building something that will be a one of a kind show piece to his friends.
I'm not sure if he is a one off or how many other there are out there like him but it would not take many to create and have a new interesting side to the shop. :)
@@BasementBrandon i agree most people that lift seem to be broke and lr cheap... We arent talking golfers or skiiers who are willing and able to spend decent money...
How much are the rollers themselves to replace if purchasing the composite rollers? And how often do you think they need to be replaced?
In a home gym probably not for a few years IMO. Not sure on pricing.
Can we use cerakote barbells on these type of j cups? I mean will there be any damage on the coating of the bar? The same have been launched by a company here in Delhi.
If using a composite roller it shouldn't be an issue, if it is a metal roller I would not.
@@BasementBrandon using a nylon roller, written on company site. Will it be fine with cerakote??
@@jollyrocks7357 I have not had any issues with my cerakote bars on nylon rollers.
@@BasementBrandon alright thanks for the information 👍🏽
Easily the most comprehensive review on the J-CUP & Ghost Strong LISTENED... Their 2.0 is UHMW lined/hugs the rack, etc... Great review!
Thanks!
Hmmmm... someone now needs to create a roller-kit (that can bolt onto either the Rogue or Titan Monolift attachments) using their respective existing UHMW mount points.
Haha get going on it!
Nice review. I rarely re rack even but have never seen these in Oz. Would be pricey to get them here.
One you go roller it's hard to go back!
Rogue will come out with a version for cheaper soon. Hopefully as aesthetically pleasing (though, imo rogue has a long way to go on the aesthetics of some of their products) as these too.
From what I understand, they actually looked into doing some a few years ago but decided not to pursue.
@Basement. Brandon thinking about ordering a pair of Rogue Monster Lite Sandwich Jcups for my RM3 rack. Will I run into any fit issues?
yes they'll be too loose, they use a 5/8 pin and the RM3 needs 1"
@@BasementBrandon makes sense bro. All I want is for the bar to not roll back in the jcup when I bench, any recommendations on which ones to upgrade to?
@@naveentejwani5931 You can get those, just make sure to get the monster version!
@@BasementBrandon should that solve my issue with the bar rolling back when I bench?
@@naveentejwani5931 They're more flat so if you roll the bar forward it should stay there.
I need this! Edit..... 375 is a hard pass at least till there is a sale. I'd probably by for around 170-200
Yeah if they could get these to around $200 I think that would be the sweet spot. Heavier duty regular j-cups typically sell for well over $100 so I think that's fair.
Your wish is granted. They’re on clearance for $200 before their 2.0 version comes out.
Spoiler 5:57 I see those 6 shooters. My comment on your plates video I was like ivanko ez or rogue six shooters.can't wait to see what you think of them.
I couldn't avoid them in this video. Need to get around to making that one, but it's just been tough, not a lot of time and a lot of videos on my to do list!
Great review. Do you think these would work for a duffalo bar? I squat mainly with that and I’m always running into the bar getting shifted one way or the other. Thanks man
I would not suggest it. B/c of the curve if one side has more weight on it, it rolls really bad.
Would love a 2.0 review! Thanks man!
might have something up my sleeve
Damn, only 3" x 3". I just ordered the Titan X2. I guess I'll have to wait for them to make a 2"x2" version. I like 2"X2" more, guess this is the only time I'll ever say I prefer smaller 😂.
Connor makes them for 2x2!
Wish Rogue made them for my R3
While I was making mine I heard from a few people that Rogue previously explored the idea but eventually decided not to pursue.
Can I buy these for a Texas Strength Systems squat stand?
Depends if it's 3x3 and the pin size.
Hello, Brandon. This may be the stupidest question ever, but so be it. Are store bought egg whites (Like cartoned or something) the same as just me separating the yolk and the whites from a regular egg? Thanks. Again, sorry bout this lol, its embarrassing
Depends on the brand. If it says 100% egg whites it should be the same. if you see egg product, it usually means there's more in there.
Hmm my gym has roller cups but they don't look like any of the ones in this vid. I'd check what brand but well Corona
Lol
That’s a neat j roller. Very inspiring to fabricate at home.
Go for it!
Good info...great idea...
Appreciate it!
I asked you about these on instagram awhile back these are awesome but the cost is a big letdown. It is more of an icing on the cake piece and will buy it if and only if I have the extra cash and income
Agreed, but once you use them it's hard to go back!
For $300 ...I’d seriously consider them if they had the UHMW on the inside protecting the rack and allowing the better fit.
I believe they've since added in some UHMW tape to the inside.
The guys at ghost are fucking killing it!!
Would like to see them be able to streamline some and get costs down. If these were $200 I think it'd go over much better!
Dear titan.fitness,
Copy please
Thank you
lol
Great review 👌
Thanks!
Glad I got a combo rack now lol
Combos are great, but I think for most with a home gym, a full cage has more advantages.
@@BasementBrandon oh definitely. I only have it because I compete so its for the sake of specificity. Even if you compete you probably don't need it, I was just thrown off by the set up at a few meets and want more practice with it.
I dont think I could own a 3x3 rack. 2 inch is way less frustrating to lift in
Once you get used to it there are no issues and then you have a lot more adaptability options to other brands, but at the end of the day it's up to you!
Last thing I'm concerned about for my home gym. Especially for the cost ! Ridiculous !!!
Def a higher end item.
Excellent videos
Thanks boss
Sick thx man !
Thanks for taking a look!
Hmmmm, what are those plates I see =D.
Hah can only do so many videos hiding them.
I noticed that too. 🧐😁
@@ryanz76
Ivanko? Cemco? Rogue? GPI? lol the suspense...
Pretty sweet.
Can't go back now!
Rae Crowther used to offer these on their racks, years ago. Unfortunately, they only fit their racks and are not currently produced. The j-cup was constructed with a valley or "V" design which also returned the bar to the same position, each time. In my opinion, if you're misracking that poorly, each time, you need to work on both your precision & accuracy of your walkout or unrack when squatting/benching. If you can't adjust the bar to center it, why are you training to lifting weights. I'd rather buy a second bar (specialty bar specifically) to get even stronger as that's a better use of money. I can't wait to see how Rogue rips off Ghost. If it happens in 2020, well, I'll laugh.
I heard Rogue actually looked into making them a few years back but decided not to pursue, would love to have them give it another go.
im still thinking Ghost just puts their logo on stuff
Why?
@@BasementBrandon first time i have seen Ghost was on the Hybrid Insta. The Equipement looks the same like other but with a big af Ghost logo on it.
MrChopsuy well if you look at a normal rack or deadlift jack there’s not much to change, but on certain items it’s easy to spot. They’re also a new company (last few months), which is why you haven’t seen them.
Don't mind me over here just livin that 2x3 life not gettin anything
will review the other rollers I have which come in 2x3.
3:18 hundreds and hundreds of pounds.. hahahahahaha
yes
My ex had too much slack in her cup too.
hey now
This would be great at a box gym. I’ve seen these on line and was wondering what for thanks
Thanks for taking a look!
Nice but really unnessesary...good to spoil yourself but it's getting far away from the basics. Always a new gadget available...
That's what they said about the iPhone :)
if you compete....these are golden though. when you get over a certain amount of weight on the bar....it's a damn hassle trying to get the bar centered in the jcups.
Dat shirt doh
Went out and bought a bunch of shirts from brands I like, needed new clothes and only buy ones for the gym obviously!
I'Ll tAkE ThERe eNtIrE STaLk!
lol
what happened to your really neat basement gym
You must not watch a lot of my videos lol. We sold the house as we are building a newer one. In the interim we are renting.
7:30 😂
;)
yikes . lost me at the first . Really wanted these. I follow walker on fb and watch his videos but man I work at krispy Kreme. I make the donuts and make 350 a week. mondays fucking suck because all the health care workers make is impossible to just park ... Yeah man fuck that price so hard such a waste of time
You had me at Krispy Kreme.
Anyone else randomly get recommended this ?
Lol weird.
300 for fancy jay cups. If you’re too finicky about where your bar placement is and you’re too lazy to shift the bar on your own and you need it to be easy for you chances are you shouldn’t be in a gym. Lol gear for the lazy and stupid
Tell me you don't lift a lot of weight without telling me you don't lift a lot of weight lol.
Its all about the look of surprise when they first see the SIZE and GIRTH. Sadly its a face I don’t see often.
With a name like Dongle that's a damn shame!
Never even heard of such a thing, nor do I think anyone truly needs these. Just roll the bar with your hands as you pull/push the bar in the rack. This guy is a joke
Prob never heard of it b/c you don't have this issue with smith machine you use.
maybe someone has stolen your idea. mhhh.
Hah can't say it was an original idea by me, just more of a repurposing.
300 bucks. HAHAHAHAHHAHA
Yep!