Sony BRAVIA 9 Review vs Best OLED TVs!
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There's no perfect TV but I think it's fair to say Bravia 9 is truly remarkable progress for MiniLED. Sony sprinkled magic dust on the backlight masterdrive (increase in zones and 22 bit precision) and it is just wonderful!
All this to do a 50% brighter picture over OLED. And still small highlights unfortunately dimmer. 🤷♂️ much easier with self emissive pixels. Can’t believe they don’t offer 97”. They offer poor x90L but not their flagship.
Sony rests on their laurels as a company but when they decide to innovate they definitely come out swinging, I don't think anyone expected a TV that looks almost as good as a $30k mastering monitor and trades blows with OLED in dark room performance.
@@Mike-jm5wt they can do indeed but I’m afraid they will lose the game. TCL is smashing in mini led space and with bigger better models available will definitely overtake that space. Whereas Samsung and LG already get close in processing to Sony, close enough that usually big price disparity doesn’t justify the difference. There will be only die hard Sony fans. I can see Sony selling its business down the line.
@@whitecrowuk575 sony will sell TVs even if profit isn't good, think of how valuable it is to have that Sony logo in front of people day in and day out. Also if the Chinese brands get too good watch governments suddenly label them as CCP spyware like they did to Huawei
The Bravia 9 is literally going to shock the world. It's going to win the King of TV's shootout this year (beating out both OLED and QD-OLED TVs) and that's going to make people heads explode all over the world! Yeah, I just saw it for the first time today and it's THAT good. You won't even believe it when you see it.
Hurts my feelings a bit to know that the Bravia 9 costs 1000 USD less in the States compared to where I live, but after this video I am convinced that it will be worth every single dime.
I just pulled the plug on the 75 inch one.
I don't think I have seen this much hype for a Sony TV ever.
same i got the exact same size coming tomorrow and im excited
I'm excited. My 85 inch B9 arrives next Monday. Your review will help me set it up.
Enjoy! Can you tell me how the uniformity is? DSE main culprit
I have it already, it's great except be prepared for blooming. There absolutely is blooming and it's worse than the TV I just replaced, my 2018 Samsung Q8FN with only 40 dimming zones. Samsung at the time was prioritizing blooming control over everything so highlights were not spectacular however there was absolutely no blooming on this q8fn. Black level is insanely good and I prefer this kind of an algorithm. The Bravia 9 prioritizes blindingly bright highlights over blooming control and it really shows, I see quite a bit of blooming which is disappointing. That said it's not terrible.
@@armylrs2391 ty for the information. Why not go lg g4?
@@TonyDAngelo-ot7ny I've owned WOLED - an A80K and C3 and I did not like either of them. I do not like how WOLED uses a white subpixel. I find it gives the image an inescapable blue push along with diluted looking color production. They also have terrible brightness stability. I like HDR and QLED provides a much more impressive HDR experience. I considered buying a Samsung QD-OLED, but they also have bad brightness stability and no OLED has impressive peak brightness despite the deceptive marketing in that regard.
Every mini led TV will have blooming.
Bravia 9 seems really nice!
I seriously considering coming back to LCD from oled TV in the future!
Bravia 9 is crazy expensive in the UK., the 65 inches not available, while the 75 inches is considerably more expensive than in the US. As a result it is going to be out of reach for me and the majority of video enthusiasts. Sony’s marketing policy is alienating its own potential customers, congratulations Sony!
no 65 in Australia either.
Mate the uk fn sucks ! Everything is priced ridiculous! Does my heed in seeing the prices in usa .
The 85 inch B9 is only 500 quid more than the 75 inch.
@@busterboy7507 wait for a sale next year mate. I paid £3300 for my 77inch c1 , put it up for sale at £1250 - these bigger tvs are hard to shift both private and in store here in uk .
@@busterboy7507 I've just settled and bought the 85X95K.
The tv is pretty good and I don't need to worry about abl ( or to a lesser extent burn in)
Bravia 9 looks awesome, I think that's my next TV. Thanks for the review, FOMO.
Excellent choice of TVs for this comparison/evaluation! Look forward to watching!
Hell yeah, bring it on.
Still waiting for my 75" BRAVIA 9😭
I have the 75 inch Bravia 9. you will absolutely love it. My only regret is that I didn’t get the 85 inch.
I have the 75" Bravia 9 and I absolutely love it! Best TV I've ever owned, and funny enough not the most expensive. I love it so much more than any OLED I've ever had, including the A95L!
@@vacguy77 what the? Really. Better than the A95L? How is the sound on the Bravia9 compared to the A95L?
@@gosman949 wanna know the same thing as you... is the sound on bravia9 really better then on the A95L?
@@vacguy77 how would you compare the bravia 9 with the A95L? in what ways is the bravia 9 superior to the A95L in your opinion?
I just received my new Bravia 9 yesterday and absolutely love it ❤I’m a SONY man and always get the new model. I haven’t messed with the settings yet but thank you for the recommendations. Love ur videos 😊
Do you have the A95L if you are a Sony man! How does the B9 compare?
@@gosman949 hah. same question! again! :)
Im curious how it compares to the Z9K in luminance and brightness, which is still a carry over this year.
@@AnythingGoesJoJoBravia 9 has better local dimming with close to 0 blooming. The Z9K does have significant blooming
Have been a longtime fan of Sony myself, having had 3 landmark Sony TVs between 1989 & the Sony OLED we still have now, including a 35" Sony 198 lb. tabletop CRT MONSTER that the TV review magazines, in late 1997 & early 1998, were calling the best TV for squeezing the most picture quality out of the then NEW video format: DVD.
I would never go back to LCD no matter how good the backlight is... The brightness is not everything. Nothing can beat the OLED until theres a better pixel level LED tech...imo
Bedroom TV not living room forever me
OLED trying to be brighter mini led trying to have perfect black😂
Best less than 17 minute video of all time! Your discussion covers the most important attributes of these very nice premium TVs. Thank you for being the great partner you are, and for your support to the video industry.
Hi Robert!, I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved to another State (I left it in my parent’s house). Do you think the 85” Hisense U8N or the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D or should I just save up and wait to get the 85” Bravia 9 or the 85” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and some shows, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month in my living room. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙏🏽
I asked fomo I similar question a while back . Ashamed to admit I ignored his advice and bought a sony xr85x95j. Mainly use tv for football and movies, had to return tv ( dse & vignette) got 77inch lg c1 and never looked back.
Even on this video you can see grey area on pan video ( Lucy army of d) the panel lottery is so much harder with large led tvs , and that's exactly what fomo originally told me.
@@iansteventon4221 oh wow! Thanks for the info!
I'm still a touch skeptical, but I have to say I was impressed by the colors of the Bravia 9. It was clearly better in that youtube TV tennis match.
In terms of colours, Sony's TV's usually knocks it out of the park. I bought a ZF9 master series TV back in 2019 and now I can only buy Sony TV's because no other TV is capable of matching the colours of a Sony TV (and they look the most true to life to me). I'm not a Sony fanboy, I don't even have a PS5. I had their first wireless earbuds with noise cancelling, but did not opt to get a new Sony one because they tend to have battery issues (I don't know what it is with Sony and trash batteries. All of their earbuds have battery durability issues and their wireless controllers also all have battery durability issues).
It was in vivid. Hence the colors were being pushed hard. But wasn’t shown TCL, which would match it or surpass it (it is brighter).
Read up on quantum dots but the short version is they convert led light into pure white which then gets filtered by the lcd layer to create all the colors, but because the white is so pure the resulting colors are far more vibrant compared to non QD light sources.
@@whitecrowuk575no TCL advocate has ever answered my question on longevity. I buy a TV to last 10 years, will a tcl be as good in 8 to 10 years of heavy usage? My Sony have always lasted 10 years at still a quality colour and picture.
I am guessing that you never clocked that FOMO had the Sony in vivid mode to try and make it appear more pimped out than it actually is?
FOMO - you should be way better than this. We don't want clickbait - give us accurate reviews sir, you can't claim anything is better whilst completely pimping out both the product and your camera settings.
If you are going to make wild claims - give us the data that backs it all up.
A calibrated 85" Z9K Owner from V.E. One thing that really sticks out to me is the cost ... the 85" B nearly half the cost of the Z9K. What size TV's were used in your review? Gotta say the old standby continues to hold true and that is what is the light environment where the TV is depends on what TV tech to go with. Both techs improve year by year that in real life viewing it comes down to one's personal preference. Those torture test comparisons are coming to the point of splitting hairs. Great Review. T.Y. 👍😊
Im really curious how the Z9K compares to the Bravia 9...Bravia 9 hits 2500 nits? But the Z9K already benn hitting close to 4000 nits
Close too oled and no burn in yeah bravia 9.
I like the brava 9 I’m saving for the 85 inch
Very impressed, short and to the point, thanks FOMO. 1 question, why are we not seeing comparisons to the qn95d?
Sony Bravia 9 &8 I bought both of them from value electronics. Thank you Robert for your advice. It worked out very well for me. Please buy from value electronics.
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@valueelectronics9390 do you know how long the Bravia 9 is on sale for?
@@CaBdosdos Looks like Sony has permanently lowered the prices on all screen sizes of the BRAVIA 9 QD MiniLED TV, 85" 4,799, 75" $3,499, 65" 2,999. with free Nationwide delivery, and we have promotions on all of Sony's perfectly matched audio and headphone products with very nice bundle discounts.
One week it can beat OLeD
The next week it’s a false king and can’t
Then the week after that another video saying it can beat OLeD
Followed by another video saying it can’t
You playing with people’s emotions like a roller coaster my guy fomo 😂
Bravia 9 looks great. Im happy with my Sony A95K for now and I’ll look into Bravia 9 sometime in the future.
LG G4's price is dropping dramatically, it's already lower than Bravia 9, sony need to reconsider the price, LCD higher than OLED is not right! If Sony can not drop the price lower than OLED, I will consider LG G4. In terms of price, it's now actually G4 challenges Bravia 9.
Not in canada lol
Not in my country either. B9 cheaper than G4.
Is down by $1300 in Australia for a 65 inch
In uk both 77” Samsung and LG 40% cheaper than 85” b9
@@whitecrowuk575 40% wow that awesome. I got 65 inch G4 $4294 with 4yrs extra warranty..... usually $5700ish
1/3 the price,
YES, i am willing to compromise.
TCL it is.
Some people go out and eat a piece of chicken leg while other people have lobster, buy what you can afford that is the way.
TCL is a Gamechanger so is the Bravia 9
It’s brighter with slightly worse processing. 30% more over B9 for 98”, in few months it’ll be on par with Sony.
@@michael-4k4000 not at all. the briva 9 have more blooming and cost. not good
Coming from a 2017 Samsung 60" LCD, I only stream, sports and Blu-ray, NO GAMING and In the tropics with five 5' windows in living room. I also don't watch TV in the dark - minimum is with ambient light. My room size is 13' x 13 - no off angle issues expected. I will be buying the 85'' Sony Bravia 9. This choice is based on the wisdom I got from you, and Brian - consider ones "Use Case". Thanks a million FOMO. Big up yaself sametime!!
While I am quite happy to see manufacturers improving their LCD and OLED TVs year over year, I think we have long arrived at the point, where the quality of the content is holding things back for more than the quality of the Display. Pretty much the same thing as what we can see in terms of Audio. We have all these nice standards and formats, HDR, 4K60 or 4K120 with high clarity, brightness, contrast and everything, but frequently get HDR capped at less than 500nits or even SDR in an HDR container. Hollywood clings to 24p, thus destroying most of the advantages of 4K or even 1080p as soon as movement is involved or adds artificial "digital grain" etc.
On the audio side, we are seeing Atmos mixes without actual object based audio, just static 7.1.2 or at most 7.1.4 and very little Surround Sound, let alone Heigt effects. In terms of Music, we get all kinds of high-resolution containers with the audio often having the potential of exceeding what humans can hear by several orders of magnitude but the actual recording being dynamically compressed, badly recorded, mushy and not even using the available bandwidth of something like a good old Audio CD.
So yes, modern TVs, AVRs and Speakers are great, but the Content industry is way behind most of the time. Sorry for ranting...🧘♀️
I’ve been saying this for years. Buying $5,000 tvs is stupid when the content itself will almost never justify that. There’s a reason almost all modern tvs look great when you watch Demo footage and footage from HDR Demo channels on TH-cam. Then you watch Netflix and other content a d it never matches that. Then you have a lot of directors you think the world looks dark and drab and no tv is going to make that content look better. Look at how Some scenes in Game of Thrones are shot, where it’s so dark you can’t see anything. A $5,000 fake “4,000 Nit” tv isn’t going to do much better than a $800 1,000 Nit TV.
Samsung got a better panel, but LG has a better image processor. Actually I believe Samsung has a better chip too, but doesn’t have the software power. Sony has 8,000 LEDs, but Sony could not control 8,000 dimming zone yet. But Sony should be able to do that in next year or two.
75” Bravia 9 will be my basement tv! :)
Basement TV, might wanna OLED instead
@@natemekis3959 Was thinking that but the B9 gets to 95% of OLED blacks but gives you brightness and dynamic range impact that OLEDS just can’t match.
I’m thinking the Bravia9 is gonna blind you in the basement and you won’t even be able to appreciate the highlights but let the community know how it worked out
@@natemekis3959 You make a very good point. You really think a lot of the brightness would be wasted in a basement setting? Wouldn’t it still however have more hdr impact than an OLED? Or, are you saying since it would be in a basement setting without having to worry about sunlight that OLED would be plenty bright?
I’d probably be blown away by the 77” Bravia 8. I don’t wanna spend $5K for the A95L. What would you get for a basement? I do love Sonys processing.
Thanks for asking. I certainly don’t want to tell you what to do or be a know-it-all, but I watch a LG B7 at night/pitch dark besides the tv of course. I keep the brightness down. That infinite contrast will be what gives the image a 3D “wet” pop. Nothing beats oled it the dark. Bright living room Bravia9 all day. If you love Sony processing which I hear it great, A80L 77 or 83. Bravia8 is not a big enough leap for the money. But if you got the cash LG G4 sounds like it has great improved processing and the brightness if you want that hdr pop. I’m waiting til G4 or S90D come into my money range. Cheers.
The LG just looks so good.
I’m a LG CX owner and have been looking at the S90D as a replacement, I went to Best Buy to look at OLEDs, walked over to Sony to check out the A80L & A95L, and was blown away by the Bravia 9 that was next to the Sony OLEDs. I never thought I’d leave OLED. If you haven’t seen it in person, please do. It’s REALLY good. Now I’m researching Bravia 9.
To everyone that thinks LCD can’t be as good as OLED, listen to this guy. The B9 is amazing. I’m glad more people are starting to realize it.
My grandmother just picked up the G4, she’s loving it
Try g4, that thing is awesome on multiple levels.
Also watching tv is always better in slight dark environment just as in the theatres.
Did you look at the Lg G4 ? That tv looked incredible when I went this week. I don’t know if the Bravia 9 was on display. I’ll be going back to compare the two.
That sounded like my experience. I was looking at a 8k and the best buy worker was real with me and told me I didn't need it. Showed me the bravia 9 and I was blown away. Did some lricing and found it at sony with my military discount and got the 85 inch for $4700
PLEASE HELP! Bravia 9 85" or X90L 98".....This is really a tough one for me. The wow factor of the 98" will be amazing but it appears the Bravia 9 is the best TV ever produced.
Did you mean 98” X90L?
Holy mess, the Bravia 9 won. Happy Day!!!
Whats your prediction for the Shootout this year? would you consider REMOVING the Matte Film on the S95D?! or have 2 S95D's. that would be a awesome video. if you would remove the Matte FIlm. ask The Display Guy, if you need help. he knows how to remove the Matte films
B9 is now down by 1000 for a few hours in Australia, I just caught the flash sale of 10% discount and made the order of 85“
Led over oled always the peak brightness on sony brightness preferred tvs is too good to go for an oled
Honestly, if you're rich, the Bravia 9 is the best of both worlds. It has everything i like about LCD with the strenghs of a OLED. AND its a Sony TV, so it also has the best color accuracy and processing on the market. Truly outstanding.
Where is the A95L vs B9, my point is Sony is trying to maximize profits by pushing reviewers to push B9, A95L still the best TV
Not for me it wasn't. I returned my A95L after 4 days. It may be the brightest OLED, but nowhere near bright enough for me. The Bravia 9 blows the A95L out of the water as far as I'm concerned!
News flash, not everyone is an OLED fanboy
@Mike-jm5wt It's weird how OLED fans/fanboys are literally everywhere trying to defend OLED. I have a QD-OLED and I'm officially over OLED. This shit is not bright enough and ABL is a no go.
@@DV-ou1yu I think it's because most of them are video gamers and those are some of the most toxic people on the internet whereas LED owners are usually not gamers but rather movie lovers and regular human beings with children and wives and windows in their homes
@Mike-jm5wt Yea, that's a pretty bad take lol I'm a gamer and I do not like OLED like I thought I would, but then again I have a life too and don't have any interest defending a product lol.
I think the best way to put it is they are tech snobs who hate light for some reason or are losers wbo waste time trying to tell you why their preference is king
Why compare to lesser brands? Makes sense to compare to a95l
"Lesser brands"😂 Stop smoking 🚬 bad stuff.
@@ADISTOD3MUS the moment he realizes the G4 wins TV of the year at the shootout he realizes the Sony dominance is over.
Well, the Bravia 9 to me looks like the best TV on the market for video viewing.... mainly because the colours just seem to be the most accurate for most part. It's basically closest to the reference monitor in like 95% of the cases.
I did read about some 'bad' things related to gaming. But that was mainly from 1 source and just a few guys. Supposedly the response time is like 17-18 ms even in gaming mode when playing at 60 fps... which is only slightly better than my 2018 Z9F and far worse than some of Sony's own TV's from recent years. Well, it isn't a dealbreaker since I don't play competitively anyhow, but it is something to keep in mind at least (ideally it's something they can improve with a software update perhaps if the issue is caused by lack of software optimisation for gaming).
@JLT3ch I meant input lag. But it is a bit on the high side for a modern TV (still good though I guess).
That thing cost like my first and second car.
Not worth it . Next year something came out already beating this
@@Yoga_Tv_buying You'll be waiting forever if you keep waiting on the next best thing. Figure out your needs, assess if you need it now or later, access price then go from there
I got my B9 few weeks ago, but there is brighten spot on the screen that is about 8" wide shape like a jelly bean located on the center left side of the screen. Contacted Sony and for three days worth of correspondent they determine it is "working within specs". I can't stand it, cause I can see it in dark scenes. So I am returning it back to Sony (bought directly). I have the LG G4 on order now.
Does it almost look like a backlight issue? I know the wide viewing filter Sony uses causes that rainbow effect and on a black screen it looks like backlight bleed. It’s driving me crazy and I’m thinking of just buying a 77 inch g3 for 1200$ less
STOP THE MADNESS!!!!!!! Oled wins all day EVERY day. Just get the G4 and stop considering ANY of these garbage TVs, You will be set for the next 5 years if you get a G4. If you can't afford the best TV on the planet then wait till this time next year and get it for 40 to 50% off. EASY PEEZY!
Only thing putting me off the sony is the grey shadowing on the edges of the screen with army of the dead and lucy. Other 2 tvs are clean , the lcd tv seems to have a grey patch when camera pans ? Why ?
I'm impressed with the B9 when you increased your camera exposure on that star scene. It has near OLED black detail. IRL the lifted black on the QM8 wouldn't be that noticeable though.
If you at showroom compare Sony OLED vs miniLED model. OLED black much on background
The best Mini LED vs the best OLED. Damn comparing a Sony against another Sony from last year. That Sony guy seems kinda good ngl 🤧
This is the first of your Videos I’ve seen and, what a great comparison. Thank you for the content . I’m subscribing, because I could already tell your videos are going to be that of a high caliber. I found the quality of your comparison incredibly valuable.
Great video. What about Sony A95l?
HI SIR, ADVICE ME BEWTEEN LG C4 OR BRAVIORS. consindering durability and picture quality. im a movies fun
Thank you FOMO! I would love to see a Bravia 9 and Samsung 900D comparison!
Great video, all information in a compact 15 minutes video. Thanks! I went with the S95D, replacing my old KS9590 LED. Love it! Never had such a clean panel before -with zero banding!
what about that matt screen?
@@gosman949 I like the matte coating! It looks kinda classy and it’s easy on the eyes to watch things during daylight.
Considered the g4?
I mean I kno the oled is the best but the mini led’s is damn close and is brighter and has deep blacks and there’s no worries about burn in I’d rather have a tv that’s bright that I can adjust then a dark tv that can’t get bright enough 🤷🏽♂️
I think the darkness was exaggerated.
@@cherylbrantley4736 the qd oled is beast and so is the a95l
I most often, don’t like the “creator’s intent”. It looks dull and unimpressive.
I believe the " buyer's intent" is superior because it can be customized to account for different room setups.
Creator's intent should be the baseline, at least as close as possible then have other modes and settings for the user to customize from there
Likewise with audio, trying to get the most neutral frequency response than EQing wherever one wants
Now if Sony would only make a 100"(or 98) version of the Bravia 9
I hate that they only make 98-inch sizes or higher for a mid-range TV.
Why no comparison of the major 2? Bravia 9 vs QN90D.....both have wider viewing angles than the competition, the Samsung the widest and still very high contrast. Looks like maybe the best option for a wide seating area, lounge room TV. The Samsung is also a much cheaper option, on sale even more so. I think alot of people would want to see the differences in real content FOMO!!! The QN90D isn't getting much love this year and looks like a solid option, the 98 inch not so much for some people but the smaller sizes don't seem to have any problems from what i've heard. Can you make it happen? 😃
I need to delay audio for a few milliseconds to match the TV box sound with the image on my new 75" B9. I can find the A/V Sync setting but it allows only for three options: Auto / On / Off... but none of them allows me to set a time delay like 20ms or 30ms... Is this not an option with the B9?
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Hi FOMO, please doing battle QN900D vs Bravia 9
Sony A95L is still the best tv out there. In my opinion.
Hi Fomo!: I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring with me when I moved out of my parent’s house to another state. Are the 85” Hisense U8N and the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 good options? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for replying!
@@lpromer4796 I would say to save up and get the Sony A95L. If you can. It’s a very expensive tv.
@@WildWildDev G4 dethroned it sry, it brings out even more 3D depth, gets brighter and punchier and it has even better clarity. However yes A95L is far superior over the Bravia 9
I read the Sony still can not deliver Dolby Vision the same time with the 120Hz signal. I own a KD-75XH9005 and fell for all the promises. 2 years (!) after release Sony finally updated firmware for all the gaming features. But you only can use every feature excluding all the others. The biggest fail is VRR. Turning that on it disables FALD. What a scum. Never a Sony again. No matter what they promise.
My advice is not to buy any of sony Mini Led TV . I bought a 77 inch X95 L and i am suffering to watch a colorful stripes showing during daylight, causing a big distraction . Sony Middle East said that this normal and for best view i need to watch it at night. Can you imagine that?!
FOMO I truly admire your best-in-industry knowledge, your dedication, presentation, everything, honesty, but why, oh why have you decided to look like a scarecrow?
We have a 7+ old Sony that has been trouble free and extremely reliable. Definitely would look at Sony for any replacement with newer technology.
I really prefer the Bravia 9 cause I just love Sonys processing.
Thanks FOMO.
Bravia 9 should have all 4 hdmi ports at 2.1 no excuses. It’s rather pricey as well but I can wait till the holidays for a sale.
Question: can you clarify if Sony Bravia 9 supports 120hz in Dolby? Also if it supports, are you locked in GAME mode? I have an a90J which in order to have 120hz it only supports in game mode (and no game mode)
Sony B9
I'd take infinite contrast over brightness any day of the week. These OLEDs came a long way. G4 with MLA is extremely bright TV. Still the Bravia 9 is very impressive for a mini led technology
What happens when the TVs outperform the $30k reference monitor?
Nice review! Please make the review of Bravia 9 85 inches, It is supposedly better than the 65 and 75 because it has a greater number of zones and more contrast, and will be much closer to oled contrast.
Thanks!
The 9 is a great LED. It does NOT compare to oiled. Stop the BS.
Sony bravia 9 better
Excellent stuff, it would be nice if you could compare the power consumption at sdr (same brightness ) (what people watch 90% of the time) of these tv. It would be a great reference for people who live in places with very high power prices.
Power usage is FAR lower on LCD TVs with Mini-LED back-lights than with similar size OLEDs! For example, about any model 65" LCD TV with Mini-LED back-lighting sold today, uses UNDER half the power at the same brightness level that any 65" OLED uses. OLEDs have NEVER been efficient in utilizing electrical power to produce a given level of brightness. A 2019 model Sony 77" A9G OLED we use in our basement theater room, has a maximum power use rating that's OVER 2 TIMES the maximum rated power usage of the 2014 Sharp 80" LCD TV (without Mini-LEDs) that I gave to a friend in Sept 2022, as we replaced the Sharp with Samsung's 85" QN90B LCD with Mini-LED back-lights.
@@mrb0775 wow, I knew oleds were inefficient, but I thought it would not be that different to LEDs due to transmission losses through LCD screen. I always wanted to upgrade to qdoled, but now I am thinking otherwise.
Oleds are bright enough these days. My C7 is even bright enough.
😂😂
It’s impressive I’ll say if I’m ever in a situation where the living room has a ton of light coming in in the tv. It’s nice knowing there are oled alternatives ready.
Pls name (text) the TVs in the video, it is hard to follow.
LG G4 with QD-oled panel is my dream TV. Love that LG G4 motion.
The A95L is available and is a better TV if you really want oled.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 still overpriced and last year's processor.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 Sounds good, do you have a link to the 83" version?
@@alsayedfakhri4597No 83 for me sadly on the a95l
That tv already exists its called the Sony A95L
I’ve got a 85” B9, it’s amazing.
SD95 65인치 👍 최고 빛 반사 있고 없고 삶의 질이 달라진다 화질에서 G4 차이 못느낀다 탁월한 선택 이번년도 2024 최고의 제품은 삼성
What about DSE on the Sony? That's why I got a QD-Oled, perfect uniformity!
wat it DSE and DTM ?
@@heikoklose84 DSE = dirty screen effect, the clouding and blotchiness that plagues LCD TVs. I assume DTM = dynamic tone mapping. DTM Off - TV uses a static table to map the input brightness of a picture to the real output brightness it is capable of rather than the static meta data provided by the content. Static meta data mostly tells the screen the minimal and maximal peak brightness of the whole movie / TV show episode.
DTM On - The TV tries to guess what output brightness would look the best on a per scene level based on both the input brightness, the static meta data as well as by analyzing the scene.
@@boomerscs9193 Thank your!
was für ein Oled haben Sie sich geholt?@@boomerscs9193
People buying these top tv's, are u still buying extra smart box for apps like apple tv 4k box?
I still use my Apple TV 4K 3rd gen with my B9 75”. Works like a charm.
Can I have your thoughts on bravia 9 vs z9k pls ?
Let’s Go Fomo!! I hope you also show content in there cinema and gaming mode with dynamic tone mapping on. Most reviewers only show Prof Mode with Static / HGIG.
Thanks for the review, but what I really want to know is an 85" BRAVIA 9 worth c. £2K/$2.5K more that the already excellent 85" BRAVIA X95L -- comparison please...
X95L is awesome. Nobody will compare theses two because they look the same. Personally, i think the B9 is too bright
A80l is $800 cheaper for 65 inch. That wins
Sony tv is still king of kings...😍😍😍😍😍
Sorry Bravia 9 is better than the tcl qm8 but comparing price off double the cost. QM8 to me has it beat
Factoring everything in, going with bravia 9
A95l still far better.
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the display size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the display size?
I've seen the 85" X95L next to the Bravia 9 and i think the X95L looks better. B9 is too bright
@@matttafakt
If it’s too bright you should buy an OLED😂
How does the bravia 9 compare to a QN95D ?
This doesnt even come close to OLED in any area other than brightness, which is not even needed. I will take contrast and 1500 nits over 3000 nits and shit contrast, washed out colors etc. Also, humans dont have green fingers @5:20
Good thing the Bravia 9 offers both amazing color and amazing contrast, not to mention incredible brightness!
This has it all Oled level blacks and 3000nits of brightness. Washed out colors where?
@@madpistol If you compare them side by side, the difference in contrast is so big, no amount of extra SDR brightness is going to make up for it. Unless you want your eyes soaring. In HDR, in over 95 percent of scenes, the brightness difference is minimal. B9 suffers additional problems as blooming, bad input lag for all gamers, it is more expensive, has bad grey uniformity, lower color gamut, and also has very, very bad viewing angles.
@@nikolajovanovic3647 well then it’s a good thing that I have an LG OLED to compare it against. Actually, I have three. The Bravia 9 beats the pants off all of them.
Im really curious to see how the Bravia 9 compares to the Z9K, the Z series has been known to hit 4000 nits without clipping.
I agree that would be cool to see how the Bravia 9 can match up with Z9K in terms of raw luminance output
Hi Fomo, thanks for another video you always hand out great content, but a quick question for you, I’m using the Sony 85j model but interested in the Bravia 9 or the Sony 98” I use a lot for films and streaming no games, which one should I get, this tv is for three years max, looking for 110 minimum Next thanks Oz
I'm confused. What did FOMO like the best?
What does it matter, the aim of the video is not for you to be a follower and buy what someone like but to look at the strength and weakness of each tech and decide whatrs best for you.
@@vcam-g9h do you know as much as your doctor for whatever specialist you go to? No, I don't think so. FOMO breathes this stuff everyday. He has the experience and the eyes. Yes, we do want his opinion.
He purposely didn’t say. The G4 is the tv of the year barely just making it over the A95L. Those are the facts.
@@Wileytiger-el6pu says who?
@@Wileytiger-el6pu The G4 cannot be superior to the A95L because of its inferior white light tech to make things bright which will dilute the color as the tv gets brighter. The A95L QD oled uses OD color which remains bright at high brightness levels.
15 hours of TV 📺 watching in 24 hours ,, Daily ,,, OLED or QLED G4 or BRAVIA 7,9 or TCL QM8 ?
I'll be honest I'm too poor for any of those so I went with the LG C3.. 65-inch.
But im loving it. It will be my TV for the next 5yrs easy
Good tv, has al the basic options people need for series, console games and movies.
Just a little less bright than g series and different chip set.
I have a dark theatre room. Is it better to go with the LG G4 83" or the Bravia 9 85". Is it worth sacraficing the 2" to go with the Oled? Price isnt a concern.
I literally had both of those TV's side-by-side in my dark, well designed room and kept the 83" G4. The OLED black details are more pure compared to the Bravia 9, where the LCD's more purplish blacks are apparent.
@stopthefomo - Can you comment more on the off axis viewing? This seems like one of the biggest compromises. You mention specular highlights but RTINGS really had an issue with off axis quality. Many of us OLED lovers are concerned about off axis viewing. You seem to gloss over it.
It’s led it won’t have same off axis as oled. Seems to shift and show blooming at 40 degrees off angle so depends if you would watch from that angle
@@whitecrowuk575 thanks!
Fomo, if you adjust black level and/or gama on the QM8 does the clouding get any better?
I promise this is the last time I spam this comment haha... Next livestream where you have the TVs all up, can we see the QM851 compared with the HX3110 with the following changes? Black Level at 48 and/or Gamma at 2.3. Like I posted in the live chat, I think that gets you closer to reference with a bit less clouding/blooming based on some feedback AVS users have posted and my own experience with previous QM850 firmware.
Side by sides mean absolutely nothing - especially the subjective and quite frankly wild way that FOMO chooses to illustrate differences in products. Take them all with a large pinch of salt as so many variables come in to play.
Why do you change the settings every scene after saying you're going to put them into their most accurate mode?
It's to help owners understand how different settings stray from "accurate" because most people don't know what these esoteric labels actually do to image quality!
whats with the wonkey audio